September 20th, 2011

Gove-Mail G-Mail

The full extent of the havoc that the Department of Education mole has caused is beginning to emerge. Today’s FT reveals another internal email that Gove’s people would probably rather not see the light of day.

As Guido reported a couple of weeks ago, the department SpAd’s assistant, Matt Gillespie, loyal to Gove’s predecessor Ed Balls, had sight of the Gove team’s emails and computers and has clearly made the most of it. They must be wondering what else he walked out with before he went to work for John Denham. No wonder the Tories are on the hunt

Chris Cook at the FT has taken the juiciest bits of an email sent by Gove’s loyal sidekick Dominic Cummings to other advisers suggesting that he would not be using his official email account anymore. What Cook fails to point out is that the full email, which Guido has put online here,  is about party political activity and sent to Conservative operational staff and spinners – something that arguably should not be done on government accounts. What does look a bit odd is the fact that he refuses to use his official party address either, opting instead for Gmail.

Chris Cook suggests that FoI  requests failed to turn up emails he has seen, thus breaking the law, however FoI does not apply to private party politics, only government business. While team Gove may be on the right side of the law here, it is muddy and hard to know where the line is drawn, eyebrows will be raised that Gove is allegedly using an email account in his wife’s name. If Labour have more from Gillespie to feed to Cook, this could get very messy…


95 Comments

  1. 1
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Axis evil reunited (Draper,mcbride,Balls) and this being reviled?

  2. 2

    Quill pen and ink is safer

  3. 3
    Damocles says:

    This is one of those times that Ireland is at the advantage as there are no moles in Ireland.

  4. 4
    Adrian Mole aged 13 1/4 says:

    I went on holiday there once

  5. 5
    Mike Litorus says:

    Surely if they spin that this was because they suspected they had a Labia mole in the department, they could make Ed Mong have to go up against Bollox in condeming having spies in the midst…?

  6. 6
    Tax Payer says:

    The civil service hasn’t been neutral for years. Decades. It’s a myth.

    And so what?

    I normally like to stir the sh*t, but on this one I really don’t see what the story is.

  7. 7
    Yawn says:

    Can’t really get excited by this. There are more important things happening in the world like whether to have weetabix or cornflakes.

  8. 8
    geekparent says:

    Badly written, text speak and no capitalisation. Good grief.

  9. 9
    Jabba the Cat says:

    Face to face in the open air is even better….

  10. 10
    Lord Stansted says:

    The FT is a crap newspaper these days – even Lex.

  11. 11
    Hissing Sid says:

    No snakes as well.

  12. 12
    Lib/Lab/Con = cunts says:

    Screw the lot of them, mendacious, psychopathic bastards.

  13. 13
    Anonymous says:

    With the taps on and cotton wool in the mouth

  14. 14
    decafT says:

    perhaps they knew there was a labour leaker, and used private email addresses for that reason.

  15. 15
    Tax Payer says:

    If I was a minister and suspected leaking I would kick arse 24×7 until it was stopped and they were sacked.

  16. 16
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    But leaking was Ok when Labour were in power (Damian Green affair)?

  17. 17
    Popeye says:

    The depths that Labour will sink to are fathomless. They are and always will be, SCUM!

  18. 18
    BillyBob... says:

    Also, I suspect the LibDems with Gov’t Depts will be doing all they can to leak and/or pass on useful information the Labour.

  19. 19
    Popeye says:

    You think??

  20. 20
    EveningAll says:

    How do I stop this Moran Video autoplaying-on a Mac?

  21. 21
    genghiz the kahn says:

    “LATEST:Former MP Elliot Morley freed from prison after serving a quarter of his sentence for parliamentary expenses fraud.”

    Once again the L word is omitted from the BBC Website headlines. Funnily enough there was a missing word in the headlines about Margaret Moran.

    Looks a bit more deliberate than careless.

  22. 22
    BillyBob... says:

    oops, sorry, should read ‘within Gov’t Depts’

  23. 23
    Mikael Gove says:

    The moon is in the ascendancy tonight and I am expecting the plough to move into pluto.

  24. 24
    Lord Stansted says:

    off topic, but it makes me MAD! MAD! MAD!

    Elliot Morley has been released from prison after serving a quarter of his sentence.

    http://www.classicfm.co.uk/on-air/news-and-weather/uk-and-world/expenses-fraud-former-mp-freed-from-jail/

    Why don’t we just release everybody.

  25. 25
    BillyBob... says:

    Labour had them arrested and called it ‘grooming’ …..

  26. 26
    Tax Payer says:

    OK by me. It’s up to the ministers to control their own departments, rather than sneak around in the background.

  27. 27
    Anonymous says:

    What about the Jacobite toast to the gentleman in the fur coat?

  28. 28
    BillyBob... says:

    First stop will be to the Doc for some soothing botty gel !!

  29. 29
    An Adder says:

    Is that why they are bad mathematicians? No adders.

  30. 30
    Help Line says:

    Why does this blog often fail to unreadable white lettering?

    I thought it was my Android phone. Then it happened on a laptop using XP and it is also happening on a PC using Windows 7.

  31. 31
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    If Guidos “Eye for and Eye” vengence only people who kidknapped someone would be locked up.

  32. 32
    Mornington Crescent says:

    Yes, same prob here (on a PC).

  33. 33
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Happens here sometimes as well.

  34. 34
    Tax Payer says:

    The moral is: Don’t write anything you don’t want published.

    The Private v Public email account debate is irrelevant.

  35. 35
    JS says:

    Nothing to see here. Find a proper story Guido.

  36. 36
    Selohesra says:

    I note the Margret Moran reports in QotD talks about her being charged for using a false instrument – is that a euphermism for dildo and is that really illeagle?

  37. 37
    Displaced Brummie says:

    Cook is a clown. He doesn’t know the law, but pretends he does.

  38. 38
    Selohesra says:

    Sorry illegal – got a touch of the Billy’s there

  39. 39
    EveningAll says:

    Request from helpline!

    How do I stop this Moran Video autoplaying-on a Mac?

  40. 40
    MrAngry61 says:

    If the civil service is utterly compromised, then replace everyone every 5 years. Don’t the Yanks do something similar?

  41. 41
    EndUpINit says:

    No wrong doing, no story. End of.

  42. 42
  43. 43
    smoggie says:

    Possibly. Googlemail can’t be tracked – you can’t find out which IP address it came from. That may be why he’s using it.

  44. 44
    Trinny says:

    or on a PC – what a PITA (the video and the content)

  45. 45
    IT-Man says:

    Throw it out the window.

  46. 46
    Brokeback Dave says:

    That’s the ticket, mister bogtrotter, lots of stories about fairies, doing fuck all but parasiting on the state, commented on by other fairies, working themselves into a lather of impotent smeg. Meanwhile, us elected puppets, can get on with our prime democratic directive – shovelling money to the bankers.

  47. 47
    MrAngry61 says:

    It happens with IE9, not not yet with Firefox5

  48. 48
    stun says:

    If you start from this page http://order-order.com/2011/09/20/ then it will only show today’s stories so the Moran video won’t autoplay.

  49. 49
    Lucius Praxtius says:

    We should follow the Roman method and put her on a donkey.

  50. 50
    smoggie says:

    Did Matt Gillseptic do no wrong?

    Leaking the emails of a Minister of the Crown to a newspaper or a political party sounds wrong to me. In fact, it sounds very naughty indeed.

  51. 51
    Fiscal Gerrymandering says:

    This all looks like a Tom Baldwin (News International style) orchestrated dirty tricks attack ahead of the Labour Party conference.

    Alex Bellendinnelli has also been spouting on about how wonderful Phillip Stephens of the FT is, when a quick glance at the comments section of his article today discredits him as an avid Keynesian money printing borrow and spend pinko.

    As for Bellendinnelli quoting of the “head of world’s biggest investment fund” who “says government can and should change course”, this is none other than Andrew Balls, European Head of PIMCO and brother of Ed Balls.

    Lets have a look at how wonderful Andrew Balls is – see http://citywire.co.uk/manager/andrew-balls/d14453#peeranalysis

    Oh dear, Andrew ranks 172nd out of 241 fund managers for one of his bond funds and 68th out of 82 for the other one.

    Thanks Alex, listening to your two gurus is an absolute must – NOT

  52. 52
    T.Blair c/o JP Morgan says:

    You’re right – but the pay’s fantastic!

  53. 53
    Public sector parasite with enormous gold-plated pension says:

    There’s almost a sense of desperation here!

  54. 54
    Tax Payer says:

    I didn’t say they were compromised. Just not impartial.

    I don’t object to that in principle: I just wish they’d acknowledge it. Not sure I’d replace them every 5 years – there is something to be said for continuity. Personally, I’d bring in more business people to senior positions. But proper decision makers: not just the pliable patsies they usually get.

  55. 55
    Baskerville says:

    1. If Cummings thought his emails were being ‘hacked’ then this is a sensible precaution. This email was from February. When did Gillsepe leave the department?
    2. If Cummings were using his departmental email for private or party work, he would be breaking the rules, if not the law.
    3. It’s 7 months old and only a snapshot of one day in the department. Doesn’t tell us much more than the FT and the rest of the MTM are trying everything to outGuido Guido.

  56. 56
    Say No! to a ban on Page3 Tits! says:

    signed:

    S.Kinnock (not a poof)

  57. 57
    genghiz the kahn says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-14984566

    “”Expenses fraud ex-MP Elliot Morley freed from jail

    Former SHunthorpe MP Elliot Morley was a government minister under Tony Blair

    Former environment minister Elliot Morley has been freed from prison after serving a quarter of his 16-month sentence for fiddling his expenses. Morley was jailed in May for claiming £32,000 in bogus mortgage payments relating to his home in Winterton, near SHunthorpe, North Lincolnshire.

    The 59-year-old was the first former minister to be jailed in the parliamentary expenses scandal. He was released from Ford open prison, near Arundel, West Sussex, on Tuesday.

    He joins three other former Labour MPs – David Chaytor, Eric Illsley and Jim Devine – and two former Tory peers – Lord Taylor and Lord Hanningfield – who have already been released after serving time behind bars for their role in the fraud.

    In total, Morley claimed £16,800 on a bogus mortgage and £15,200 after inflating the amount he was previously paying – for which he should have been entitled to only £1,572.

    It is understood that he was freed under the home detention curfew scheme, which allows prisoners who pose a low risk to be tagged and released early after serving at least a quarter of their sentence.”

    Why is the L word missing?

  58. 58
    David Laws Lib Dem fiddler says:

    Temporary Workers Rights being implemented 1/10/2011 costing industry an estimated £1.8 billion each year when the Government are claiming to create growth.

    Despite Wet Dave having concerns over Cable’s intentions he has done nothing. This is another example where Cameron has not kept his cast iron guarantee about Europe. Another bureaucratic EU directive being followed or rather “Gold plated” by Cable, mate of Brown, and chums. When is Cameron going to grow a back bone or follow through on what he promised us??

    Socialist Cable, mate of Brown, continues his rant about high paid people and still does nothing about welfare lifers. 370,000 households where no family member has ever worked since the age of 16yrs and the number is growing. What is he doing about these true leeches and parasites of society?

  59. 59
    EveningAll says:

    Thanks for that.
    If they start doing that on all posts then I’m asking for my money back!

  60. 60
    anonymousse says:

    Googlemail’s servers have a record of the sender’s i.p. connection. It can be tracked.

  61. 61
    Be fair says:

    “He joins three other former Labour MPs…”

  62. 62
    David Laws Lib Dem fiddler says:

    I’m desperate for some Tory policies and values from this Government. I can only see this happening when Cameron is ousted from his perch.

    Morley is out after only serving a quarter of his sentence, good old Soft on Crime Clark still says nothing despite this contravening his early release scheme rules.

  63. 63
    The BBC are cunts says:

    Note we mentioned the two TORY Peers but forgot to mention that the other fraudsters are LIEBOUR

  64. 64
    Anonymous says:

    It looks as though AT WORST some rules have been broken. Given the serious whitehall abuses of the last 10/20/30 years, this is extremely small beer.

  65. 65
    The BBC are cunts says:

    How did that happen ????

  66. 66
    CHRIST ON A BIKE! says:

    CC: Elena Narozanski-Efthimiopoulou

    Fvck! There’s a name to conjure with.

  67. 67
    thief says:

    did he repay the £30k?

  68. 68
    MajorFrustration says:

    Hopefully and some time soon somebody will start to govern the country. Would be good to move on from “Political Celebs Get me Out of This” We certainly have the politicians we deserve.

  69. 69
    sockpuppet #4 says:

    Not easy to get Google to give you that information I imagine.

  70. 70
    Anonymous says:

    Ukrainian Turkish?

  71. 71
    Mornington Crescent says:

    Google her – could qualify for Tottywatch.

  72. 72
    Mike Hunt says:

    The first mention is in the 5th paragraph, even then his affiliation is not mentioned.

  73. 73
    Tankboy says:

    It’s an email account!!!! – Get over it.

    Not as if they are taking tax payer money to fund a union; and then get it rebated back in the form of a party “donation”.

  74. 74
    EveningAll says:

    Completely O/T
    Hope HRH has a sense of humour.
    From the Express website:-

    “Prince Harry turns model
    PRINCE Harry has inspired a toy company to bring out a three inch plastic soldier based on his…”

    You then have to click the link to discover it’s his “exploits in Afghanistan”

  75. 75
    tube_thumper says:

    how boring all this trivia is. Who cares?

    Are we not more concerned about the increasingly rapid decline of a country that is being ruined by chavs and muslims.

    Now the great British public have voted that horrible thick pikey Paddy something as the winner of “celebrity” Big Brother.

    Is it just me or is anyone else furious. Kick the chavs off dale Farm too. There are loads of green fields in Ireland for IRISH pikeys.

    If you are travellers then fuck off and travel

  76. 76
    Titford Hat says:

    Non-story. Entirely synthetic indignation from Labour. Nothing new there, then.

  77. 77
    Swinging from the gallows pole says:

    You dont need to lock any of the murdering scum up when youve hung the bastards by the neck Billy no balls !

  78. 78
    My dearest friend says:

    Is that the name of a very generous online contact who has 100 gazzilion dollars looking for a friendly bank account ?

  79. 79
    EdButLookBalls says:

    Not a non-story at Al-Beeba, it’ll play for a day or two near the top of the ‘News’ schedules!!

    Cnuts!!

  80. 80
    Anonymous says:

    Sum twat on tv yesterday compairing the eviction with ethnic cleansing. Yeah thats right you cock, the brutal slaughter of tens of thousands of men women and children in the balkans or the millions exterminated in Nazi death camps are as bad as whats going on down in Dale farm. Good God !
    The thing that really pissed me off was no one in the media interviewing these retards pulls them up when they spout this disgraceful offensive bollox.

  81. 81
    tube_thumper says:

    I think pikeys could do with being cleaned let alone cleansed.

    Oh fuck it just kill em

  82. 82
    No2IT says:

    How has Gillespie had sight of the Gove e-mails?

    I hope that they have changed their e-mail passwords. Gillespie (classic insider threat) may have been doing all sorts of sneaky things, like looking over people’s shoulders when they’re logging in, rummaging through drawers and diaries looking for passwords. Or installing keystroke loggers perhaps (depending on hardware configuration). Time to get the Central e-Crime Unit in perhaps?? They should look for account access when the e-mail account owners have not been around. All the info will be there on an e-mail server somewhere.

  83. 83
    Correction says:

    Only 20% of fund managers even achieve a Citywire rating.

  84. 84
    The Other Bloke says:

    Is that the S. Kinnock who is married to the Danish Prime Minister, who was slung out of Russia, who has a job in Sierra Leone organised by his Daddy but never goes there, who is being investigated for tax evasion–or a different one?

  85. 85
    Technician says:

    Have you tried switching it off at the mains and then switching on again?

  86. 86
    The Other Bloke says:

    Happens with Firefox 5, Opera and Chrome. I think it is when the page is being updated by the editors as a post will vanish during this time, but reappear later.

  87. 87
    Traditionalist says:

    English not his first language? Or just thinks it’s cool to follow the fashion for writing like a ten-year-old product of Labour education?

  88. 88
    Traditionalist says:

    What’s the public interest here?

  89. 89
    Iloathlefties says:

    They resort to this stuff as Civil Servants are still “wed” to new Labour having been recruited and planted in post. They need wholesale sacking and reform to ensure unbiased work in the Home office and other public servises and quangos!!!

  90. 90
    Rhubard & Custard says:

    Seems pretty obvious that Cummings is worried about his emails being seen by unscrupulous people who might leak the contents. Seems like he was right to be worried.

  91. 91
    Cato Street Conspirator says:

    Gove is this government’s Hoon.

  92. 92
    enema of the state says:

    who are you calling paranoid?

  93. 93
    Pink Panther comment of the week says:

    you know when politicians are in big deep shit eg Liberal Democrats or Barack Obama are talking about taxing the rich earning tax cheats avoiders evaders more as politicians all of them attack the poor to pay for their incompetance corruption after getting voted in eg new labour 1997-2010 they side with rich to attack the poor barack is not for poor of america

  94. 94
    Tubby Isaacs says:

    “Seems pretty obvious that Cummings is worried about his emails being seen by unscrupulous people who might leak the contents. Seems like he was right to be worried.”

    These unscrupulous people would have to have access to the Conservative Party email system, seeing Cummings says don’t use that.

  95. 95
    Tubby Isaacs says:

    Ah, I see people are “moles” when you don’t like them. When you do, they’re “whistleblowers”


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