One Term Tories
Before the 2010 general election Guido had a sense that we were heading towards coalition government, stuck his neck out, and called it a month before the election. Reading the runes again it seems to Guido increasingly likely we are looking at a one-term Tory-led government.
Right now the bookies favour no overall majority, polls suggest Labour could be the largest party, in that event the LibDems, probably without Clegg, will in all likelihood support a Labour government.
The primary cause will be the economy, the probability of a double-dip recession is rising. The US economy is in trouble, the Eurozone is in turmoil, growth is faltering at home and abroad. Inflation is out of control, real incomes are actually falling in the UK. By 2015 the answer the electorate will give to Ronald Reagan’s “Are you better off than you were four years ago?” question may well be “No.”
Osborne’s plan was to bear down on the deficit for a couple of years, restructure taxes a little, revolutionise education policy, tinker with welfare to make work pay, give tax cuts in 2013-14 once the fiscal picture was improved and go on to win the Tories a governing majority. In the second term, free of the LibDem drag, they would really press on with radically remaking government and the Big Society. Alas they may only have one term.
Things are not turning out so well. Osborne may need to have a root around in his desk to find some of Gordon Brown’s old lines about “it started in America” and “global economic downturn”. Osborne’s hawkishness on the deficit is being rewarded by the international bond markets, but there is little he can do about international demand. US confidence has been shaken up by the downgrade and even German GDP growth was only 0.1% last quarter, Europe may well go into recession within a year, assuming the continental banking system doesn’t collapse next week. None of this will enhance Tory election prospects.
It gets worse for Downing Street; Andy Coulson could be in the dock the year before the election, or worse still, in jail. This will of course tarnish Cameron and Osborne. There is also the possibility that Coulson, as well as other News International figures, could sing about matters that would be excruciatingly embarrassing for the Tories. Osborne, who was really responsible for getting Andy Coulson his job, will be in a particularly uncomfortable position, perhaps even more so than Cameron. Coulson knows where the bodies are buried…
It would help if Dave was a Tory.
If they adopt the policies of UKIP they might stand a chance.
The BBC and Guardian would never countenance that, which is why it will never happen.
On the last page, I posted that “You are fucked.”
If Guido is right on this one, I would like to amend that to “You are seriously fucked.”
Or he could get some balls and do what most people want: Stop immigration, drastically cut EU budget or better still get out of EU, repeal Human Rights Act irrespective of the corrupt Lie Dumbs wishes- no one wants them full stop-, cut welfare drag on society and make them work (paying the difference between welfare and work at the beginning to will change their mindset), provide proper defence and have a proper criminal justice system where there is a deterrent for committing crime, change the school system ie three tiered schools: grammar schools, ordinary schools and remedial schools for the scum who dod not want to learn but only disrupt the rest bringing down the whole of our education system.
I might have to make some plans to move.
Hmm…
If you find THIS coalition disagreeable, consider for a moment how it might be with Cable and Balls pulling the strings.
IT’S ALL THE LIBERTARIAN’S FAULT
It’s the libertarians that promoted individual rights above personal responsibilities (aka human rights, gay rights etc) via subversive legislation. They were the ones that pushed the equality agenda knowing that discrimination is an inherent part of a healthy functioning country/society/economy. The gender equality legislation’s success was in the breaking up of the family unit and thereby deliberately facilitating the atomisation of our society. It was done because it was good for business.
Immigration policy is driven by the libertarians. The more immigrants = more consumers. It’s good for business. And what’s good for business?….growth, at the expense of sustainability.
Libertarians take all opportunities to force their agenda onto poor Johnnie Foreigner under the guise of liberal democracy (unless their leaders can be bought off – of course). It’s why they are so keen to start wars. Wars are also good for business – for the industrial/military/political economy.
libertarians = anarchists (without rules), they are Trotskyite, they impose rigged market economies onto peaceful statist nations under the guise of liberal democracy. The BBC is wholly complicit in this pursuit (ref the BBC’s constant bigging up of foreign anti-statist subversives such as Ai Weiwei in China and Aung San Suu kyi in Myanmar).
Do not think in terms of the old Left vs Right political dogmas. That’s all just pantomime for the lumpen proles. It’s about anti-statists vs statists. When you read the MSM news (aka propaganda) with that perspective in mind, EVERYTHING becomes clear.
When you analyse all of the actions of Thatcher, Blair, Brown and now Cameron their anti-statist OUTCOMES of policy all start to make complete sense.
THEY are all in it together.
We are only one year in another 4 to go before the next election. Still time for economy to improve given the right tax cuts and reorientation of economic activity at the Far East rather than US and Europe. In that case there will be even more reason to distance ourselves from the EU.
Don’t believe there are any bodies. Cameron has the correct narrative concerning Coulson. Gave him a second chance and Coulson swore blind re knowledge of so called hacking.
“No one” saw the 2007/08 crash; now “every one” sees the next crash. Is it just me or are both examples of the human tendency to think that everything will carry on as before?
The biggest problem in the western economies is not that they are crashed out, but that the establishments of the USA, EU and UK are corrupt: they lie, cheat, loot. And that includes Cameron, Obama, Sarkozy, Merkel et al.
@ 13eastie says:
August 21, 2011 at 7:27 pm
There are three things that cheer me up. Firstly, a LimpDim/Parasite Party coalition would be saddled with Fuckface Milimong as leader, and Vince Cable as Chancellor (OK, not good for the UK, but it would be funny). watching them try to cope, with a frustrated Balls sniping from the sidelines.
Secondly – and let’s not forget this – ueber-chav Amy Winehouse is dead.
Thirdly, all the chavs are downloading Amy Winehouse albums, which is contributing, in a small way, to the economy.
Bless her. More use dead than alive.
Saif al Islam Gaddafi Phd LSE has been captured!
Up yours Socialist International. One of your members will soon be joining the path of Democracy.
richard sniffer and he’s wife spot on
Cupid stunt Cameron should have made disbanding al-Beeb his first priority! Thus The Grauniad, deprived of its major source of revenue, would have collapsed AND he would have had no sniping to contend with!
This is so clearly the answer, yet lefty Dave doesn’t see it.
Hopefully they will lose, find a real Tory to lead them and get back in power as a legitimate alternative to Labour – not just more of the same.
UKIP get about 3% of the popular vote and are viewed by the vast majority, except some of the children on here, as eccentric little englanders. Even with an extra 3% posh boy still wouldn’t get a majority.
Can’t see posh boy champagne socialist Milliband minor getting a majority even if he does survive the full term.
A “little Englander” was someone who was opposed to the British Empire. Do you think we should have the Empire back? Just asking.
Little Englander is a term now applied to English people who are regarded as xenophobic and/or overly nationalistic and are often accused of being ignorant and boorish. It is frequently applied to those who are against membership of the European Union. English people who mistakenly refer to the whole of the UK or Britain as “England”, or who routinely fail to give the opinions of non-English British citizens any importance, may also be called “Little Englanders”. Both of these usages are controversial.
Stop that Budgie! You know very well the pigeonhole into which Guido’s kindergarten is trying to lump UKIP supporters. UKIP must be discredited and smeared at every opportunity, without smart alec’s like you popping up and confusing matters.
Just imagine if they had more than 3 pct.
Bolton West:
Labour 18,329; Conservative 18,235; UKIP 1,901
Derby North:
Labour 14,896; Conservative 14,283; UKIP 829
Derbyshire NE:
Labour 17,948: Conservative 15,503; UKIP 2,636
Dorset mid & Poole:
Labour 21,100; Conservative 20,831; UKIP 2,109
Dudley North:
Labour 14,923; Conservative 14,274; UKIP 3,267
Great Grimsby:
Labour 10,777: Conservative 10,063: UKIP 2,043
Hampstead & Kilburn:
Labour 17,332; Conservative 17,290; UKIP 408
Middlesbrough South:
Labour 18,138; Conservative 16,461; UKIP 1,881
Morley (Ed Balls):
Labour 18,365; Conservatives 17,264; UKIP 1,506
Newcastle-Under-Lyme:
Labour 16,393; Conservatives 14,841; UKIP 3,491
Plymouth Moor View:
Labour 15,433; Conservatives 13,845; UKIP 3,188
Solihull:
Liberal 23,635; Conservatives 23,460; UKIP 1,200
Somerton & Frome:
Liberal 28,793; Conservatives 26,976; UKIP 1,932
Southampton Itchen:
Labour 16,326; Conservatives 16,134; UKIP 1,928
St Austell & Newquay:
Liberal 20,189; Conservatives 18,877; UKIP 1,757
St Ives:
Liberal 19,619; Conservatives 17,900; UKIP 2,560
Telford:
Labour 15,977; Conservatives 14,996; UKIP 2,428
Walsall North:
Labour 13,385; Conservatives 12,395; UKIP 1,737
Walsall South:
Labour 16,211; Conservatives 14,456; UKIP 3,449
Wells:
Liberal 24,560; Conservatives 23,760; UKIP 1,711
Wirral South:
Labour 16,276; Conservatives 15,745; UKIP 1,274
About 20 seats – still not enough. The tories haven’t got above 37% of the GE vote for nearly 20 years. It is highly unlikely that they ever will – thank God. ‘The natural party of opposition’.
According to Guido’s kindergarten “UKIP… are viewed by the vast majority, except some of the children on here, as eccentric little englanders (i.e. xenophobic and/or overly nationalistic and are often accused of being ignorant and boorish).”
No. This is how they are perceived by a small clique living in Hampstead and Islington or working in government and the media. Out there among the proles opposition to the EU is widespread, among small business owners clogged up with red tape through to electricians adapting to yet more pointless regulations through to householders wondering why the hell they can’t buy their preferred design of lightbulb. People can see through all this nonsense and sadly for you and your smug chums in Brussels, they’re not too dumb to spot the common factor. It’s the EU.
Oh, and we’re sick of being smeared as “little Englanders”.
It was Nigel Farage who siad it was aconstant struggle to stop UK truning into the
‘Angry old men who are against everything’
Party
QED
If the present administration who’ve made the correct decisions mainly because they haven’t got elections around the corner .
Perhaps comments should aimed at socialist governments causing the instability
& if a week is a long time in politics 4 years is an eternity so stop flapping & grow some balls
If the Tories were led by a true Tory, they’d sink like a fucking stone in modern multicultural Britain.
Don’t know why this comment has been downvoted – it’s absolutely true.
Too many voters here would find their personal interests conflict with a proper Conservative world-view (e.g. self-reliance, bettering onesself, creating stable families).
The majority of the modern UK electorate cares nothing for these ideas. All they want is ‘more free stuff’.
A real Tory leader wouldn’t have a hope in hell of winning as things stand.
There is a simple solution. The longer the Tories delay, the less likely it is to work.
First, publish all the debts, not just the liabiltiies.
Second send taxpayer a personalised bill
Three, blame it on Labour.
A bill for 225,000 pounds and an interest charge of 9,000 a year.
Are you going to vote for the wankers who left that as the mess to clear up?
Delay and it will be a Tory mess.
As long as the BBC do what they do, that’s true.
Don’t be fooled. There are many people from different walks of life who want Tory values. Wet Dave was surprised with the response from British visible ethnic minorities on immigration who wanted immigration to stop.
Blair was trying to defend his failures he brought to the country today by getting air space about the riots. This is because this turd is partly responsible through mass immigration, increasing welfare dependence etc etc to get votes. He is a con man and should be investigated, charged and jailed for war crimes, expense fiddles, second jobs in conflict with his former office etc. How he has the bare faced cheek to suggest the UK might talk itself down in the eyes of the world after his lying to create the Iraq war is beyond belief. The turd needs locking up ASAP.
BBC…Guardian…left wing consipracy…EU…
Jesus, you whinging little ratbag.
Guido’s spot on with this one. Dave + Gideon’s ineptitude owes nothing to the BBC, friend.
It’s down to them being over-promoted cretins, who had to rely on the Yellow plague to deliver them a majority.
If you couldn’t get a majority when Gordo was in power, you’re not worth one.
You don’t think the massive electoral bias in favour of Labour has anything to do with it then?
That bias will be removed by the end of this Parliament.
The Tories voted Cameron (ie a non-Tory) as leader precisely because of the BBC/Guardian/Observer/Mirror politically-correct, statist, Labour-supporting strangle hold on the media.
Yep, true dat.
Once he bottled a Lisbon referendum, his goose was cooked. Useless fucking PR spiv boy with frig all to offer.
He still squints at his speeches. Shifty, not to be trusted.
You are Ed Miliband and I claim my fiver.
And Camerhoon, – as a big turd as could be found to lead the Tories will ‘of’ blown his one chance.
Thanks Andy and all the other shits who encouraged the twat.
It would help if they stopped wasting money on windmills and sending electricity prices sky high.
Now wait for it.
IT COSTS 40 TIMES AS MUCH MONEY TO GENERATE A UNIT OF ELECTRICITY FROM A WINDMILL THAN IT DOES FROM A CONVENTIONAL POWER STATION.
http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2011/8/21/tories-out.html
So why is pointing out that windmill leccy costs 40x more than ordinary leccy moderated?
If Dave wants to be the PM again then he must do 2 things.
1) Dump the AGW scam
2) Withdraw from the United States of Europe.
He just needs to stop wasting our money. If he spent 0.7% more money in the Uk instead of abroad, he’d be surprised what that could acheive in an economy that is flat-lining.
really? None of which Millitwit will do, so your point being?
What Cameron says or does has to be taken in a context that is relative to his opponents. On that basis alone, he’ll stroll it in the next election.
The shit that twats on here obsess about, like the EU, for example, are rather lower down the priority list of your average floating voter.
The average floating voter, just like you, is a cretin.
Nearer 80 times, when the short life of wind mill gear boxes is taken into account
CAGW is a scam. Cameron is a fool to believe it. Windmills are useless, and ruinously expensive, and require conventional power station back up. But 40x? 80x? – rubbish.
Sorting the postal vote scam out will help. Are there really that many people who can’t make it around the corner to vote once every 4/5 years?
21.18pm 73 thumbs up Better than winning the Caption Comp eh Billy?
It is good to be aprecited by fellow scren lickers
They should have done far far more about rooting out the massive amounts of waste, incompetance and corruption in Labour-run local authorities to put them on the back-foot in their heartlands. It might even have saved some of that money they tell us we are short of, despite wanting to give huge dollops of it to an ungrateful third world.
http://archipelago-of-truth.blog.co.uk/2011/08/21/yet-another-post-onthe-labour-party-snuffling-away-at-public-money-which-ought-to-be-spent-better-11702669/
Poor post Mr Fawkes.
This is not a Tory government, it is a coalition government. There is a difference.
If Dave wants to win, he can guarantee a referendum on staying in the EU – job done.
Why are you panicking guido? IF Labour thought they would end up as the largest Party they would have an election now and encourage the Fib Dems to walk away.
At the end of the four years the verdict on Osborne will be whether or not the deficit is down- not whether we are better off. No option was going to leave us better off.
The US and Europe are officially f*cked so its whether or not Osborne has given us the best chance of surviving that fact and allowing the Chinese to continue to lend to us. If Obamstick gets the boot next year it might just kick off a recovery of US business confidence amongst all the Joe the Plumbers out there about to be hit with his tax plans. Osborne will soon start to stimulate the economy with supply side measures because thats all he has left after near 0 base rates and max to the limit QE to avoid hyper – inflation.
So quit fretting, keep calm and carry on. Have I got your misery index down yet ?
Sit down and fasten your safety belt.
You will not believe this.
http://www.youtube.com/embed/VtVbUmcQSuk
If Dave were a Tory! You should have used the subjunctive in a conditional clause. Labour educational policies fail once again.
Economically we are pretty much connected to the rest of the world how it’s doing effects our little island economy
How ever the state of socialist policies on other economic zones are clearly not sustainable
Just like they are not sustainable here
In the short term there’s a time of adjustment in the economy , even contraction but eventually sustainable growth
What all economic zones should do is implement economic policies that sustain the economy not their political office
FAT CHANCE
It would help if he, and Osborne, had a clue on how to deal with any issue rather than just have a knee-jerk reaction. They had no policies in opposition, now they have no policies in power. A party being led rather than leading. When’s the next crisis going to happen? Whatever it is they will make a complete balls-up of it.
One Term Tories? Thank God!!
I haven’t written anything on the blank sheet of paper yet.
Don’t bother – you won’t be in charge anyway.
We could save £25 billion a year by stopping our membership of the EU and borrowing money to give it away in foreign aid.
Actually that would be nearer a £100 billion benefit to the economy.
80% of our trade is with ourselves, yet that 80% must comply with EU rules. The roughly 10% we export to the EU would still have to comply with EU rules, but then our exports to the USA must comply with their rules too. And only 10% is a lot cheaper than 90%.
currently Osborne/Cameron are outspending Brown. Suspect the bond markets wont be fooled for long.
Guido
May in dulge you on this subject.
How many polices that the coaliton have introduced that are conservitive?
I accept that some Lib Dem policy will be in there as they formed a coaltion deal, But who has got the best in the deal? , OK The Lib Dems will do bad at the next genral election, But for the seats in parliament they occupy they seemed to have got the best of the deal.
The lib Dems will be wiped out next election so will be in no position to enter into coalition with anyone.
Yes but – their voters are more likely to vote Labour/Green/Watermelon than Tory/anything less left wing.
I fear you may well be correct
If we had Tories in government I would say you have something, but what we actually have is Red Tories with a hint of yellow (but tinged with red).
And that’s how they got there.
By being a modern multicultural EU loving party.
Read it and weep.
But they barely limped over the line against the most hated incumbent in recent memory.
And even then, they needed f*ckwit Clegg to actually hold office.
So maybe they should try being proper Tories, can’t see how they’d do any worse.
Red tinged with yellow? That makes them orange.
Just like me!
I think you are way off on this one – and you reckon the lefties will get back in to sort it out?
Aye!
An’ ah’l be there tae carry on ma gud wuk!!
An’ save yon bonny childers from poverty
An’ sav’ tha’ wuld!
Beowulf ?
Tam o’ Shanter
Thats never Burns you ignorant c unt. What a tosser !
They wont be able to sort fuck all out, but almost certainly yes, they will get back in. Too many tribal fuckwits who are prepared to vote for them regardless of how much they get shat on after their votes have been stolen… and too many of the tories core vote that will stay at home.
A golden opportunity for UKIP, but unless they pull their fingers out and start making a noise, nothing is going to come of them.
They’re not even gong to make it to 2015!
However, what is Blinky up to?
Cooking up a putsch for his Bilderberg Masters?
Or sucking Yvette’s cock? One has to hope that the more people see of Milipede Minor the more they’ll see him for the hypocrtical fucking lightweight that he is but then people only vote with their pocket and why should people vote Tory when they’ve done fuck all to curb spending and allow people to retain their own fucking money?
So redrawing constituency boundaries, choking the LibDems through their involvement in the coalition, a truly awful legacy in Brown’s Bonus and a relaunched attempt at reining in the ECHR in Strasbourg and a British Bill of Rights are going to leave the door wide open for a resurgent and revitalised Labour party government?
It is hard to believe.
Competence and responsibility will be prized attributes in the aftermath of the social and economic crises – the Conservatives are well placed to benefit.
If it does turn out this way, I forecast one thing. Be prepared to see an €0.80 pound (however badly the Euro does).
Those who can sell, should sell. Those who can flee, should flee. Put whatever you get into Norwegian krone, Swiss franc, Australian dollars, even the yen – anything but pounds. Bit late for gold.
Anyone who is old enough to remember Harold Wilson’s time in office will remember exchange controls. You were banned from taking more than £50 out of the country in any year.
In my mind, I can already hear Balls announcing it now.
That would not go down too well with all the immigrants who send their child benefits and untaxed cash in hand income abroad as remittances.
Interesting “law of unintended consequences” aspect. There are so many financial instruments that did not exist in the sixties. Credit cards, debit cards, Paypal and so many other means that it would probably crumble at the seams.
That would not prevent Yvette’s castrato, with his delusions of deity, from attempting it.
I think you will find it was £300 -for holidays. There was of course the ‘dollar pool’ where you wandered into your bank and asked for 500 dollars to go on holiday. You would have to wait whilst your bank applied for it and sometimes there was not sufficient currency available to give you all of it.
Thanks Labour
No it was definitely £50. However after a few tour companies showed the Labour chancellor how to count using his fingers it was modified to allow air/sea fares and a portion of accomodation costs to be paid seperately and eventually the £50 was the “cash” portion. You could actually get a fortnight in Tossoff del Mar for £50 in those days. MPs on fact-finding trips were, however, exempt.
after all the shit that’s gone down in recent years I am frankly amazed that anyone would want to vote for any of them. What is the matter with you?
Guido you can get tablets for depression these days. It stops you writing this crap.
Yes, why have you written this? Arn’t we all depressed enough without you conjuring up this nightmare scenario? Please stop now. On a lighter note, why is the Guardian supporting General Gaddafi?
Because we progressive limp-wristed intellectuals say it’s the Right Thing To Do.
Anyway, we need him to keep the oil flowing so we can be sure we can run our 4x4s to our Holiday Cots in Walberswick.
Get back down where you belong little people.
I thought it had something to do with him being a left wing dictator, which of course is always good for the little people.
As Britain moves ever closer to a banana Republic Senior police officers are now wearing pretendy uniforms to make themselves look more important. The next step is the over ornate Uniforms with loadza medals and stuff much loved by El Presidente types !
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2028397/Candidate-Scotland-Yard-job-wears-fake-uniform-plastic-badge.html
By the way whilst on this subject which Police force is Orde actually a member of ?
If ACPO is a private organisation and his job is with them then he isn’t really a police officer at all I would argue. He is in fact another pilgrim !!!
Guido
You make an excellent analysis
I would only add.
Britain is such a deeply divided class ridden society which has not had a recent revolution that I cannot see the Toffs and the rest ever being solved.
To that I would add, as Cameron rightly points out “Britain is in slow-motion Moral collapse”.That is quite obvious for all to see.
It started IMHO about a generation ago, and it has its paroxism with MPs stealing from taxpayers, Peers fiddling their expenses on the recomendation of their Whips, bankers paying themselves huge bonuses on the taxpayer, lawyers bending every rule, a bent police force, a judiciial system that does not provide justice, journalists who are criminals, and the hoi polloi, white brown and black, who now decide to torch the place (quiet logically in the light of the examples they have been given)
Quite agree Historian (Mr. Starkey I presume?).
Total lack of leadership in every institution within our country.
I am so fed up about it I might go rioting myself.
And then sentence myself to two weeks probation, after I turn myself in having being caught on CCTV.
yes
the elites have it all wrapped up.
you’d know if you were one
most of us aren’t and we are buggerede
return of slavery, poor laws, enclosure acts, and witch hunts
Sounds like fun. Can we bring back chimneys and coal mining?
If Labour are the largest party at the next election,then the Country deserves what will happen.Can’t see it myself,the middle class have been burnt once. I know there are a lot of idiots in denial but not enough for Labour.
Labour have learned how to mobilise the postal vote to great effect.
Various ethinc religious patriarchs (a.k.a ‘Community Leaders’), aided and abetted by Labour Party activists, can draw on a huge store of ‘votes’ from UK residents who cannot speak English, have never attended a polling station ever, wouldn’t know there was an election taking place, are are possibly even deceased.
Against this sort of vote rigging, the pissed of middle classes count for very little in the voting stakes.
Not forgetting the Proxy Vote scam, where ethnics retain an address in the UK but actually live back in the Third World – their proxies are harvested for money by agents, who then make them available to candidates (for a ‘consideration’, of course).
It may depend on whether the Middle classes both to vote in the first place. If DC spends too much time in holiday he will have sunk himself.
Scotland will have voted to rid ourselves of you Tory wankers for good.
Cameron will go down in history as the man who presided over the end of the union.
Ahah – ahahahahahahhhh …………
So he might achive something good then!
Cameron is a useless fud. If the tories ditched him and put Hammond in charge that would worry Labour.
Or Boris.
Hammond?
What about Clarkson or May??
Sorry James. Jeremy has it.
I’d vote for the Stig.
I hope he does,just to be alive watching Scotchland sink without our tax money
will be heaven.Bring it on.
Aye you fucking tube – everything is going so well for England just now, eh?
You win a few games of fucking rounders against the curry-munchers and think you are world class.
Get it right round ye!
All the scotch are good for is cannon fodder for us sassanachs. Left on yer own you’ll sink like a Gordon brown turd
Well, we have impoverished ourselves bailing out two scotch banks.
But RBS saved National Westminster from bad management by a “good” bank taking over a bad bank like Llloyds did with HBOS which was created by a “good” bank taking over a building society that was not good at banking.
So RBS saved NatWest from “bad management”? Oh wait a minute ……
Can anyone with any knowledge about history tell me why the Scotch joined the Union?
IIRR it was something to do with going b4nkrupt?
they would be lonely without us
Look up the Jocks’ ‘imperial’ adventures in South America for a clue…..
A early exercise in Brownian cacanomics. An entire nation sunk its wealth into a dream of becoming an imperial power in central America.
It’s mysteriously not given prominence in the GCSE History syllabus.
That will take 40plus Labour MPs plus their sky high expenses out of Westminster….good idea bring it on!
Dear Jock MacTampon,
As is usally the case with your kith and kin, all your misfortunes are down to the evil, bairn-eating Tories from South of the Border.
I didn’t notice much effort from your and your clansmen to keep the shipyards open, the pits working, industry humming – while you had the chance.
No. All I remember was the bitter, small-minded victim mentality, and ‘it’s our oil’ even though you had to import whole fucking towns-full of skilled, educated Americans, Norwegians and Englishmen to actually get the oil out of the seabed for you.
Scottish Independence Now! For all our sakes – and mostly for a good laugh by the English who have had to nurse you on the teat for two hundred odd years.
Oooooo get her !
Salmond has no intention of holding a vote. If you like kicking dogs, why kill it?
If the vote is a ‘yes’ the Scotch have to face a future alone and broke.
If it’s a ‘no’ the Nats lose all credibility.
Don’t you realise that if Scotland is independent it guarantees a Tory Westminster win and you can govern your increasingly impoverished homeland they way you’d like it to be -unequal , uncivilised, uncaring and even more unbearable than it is now?
If Labour win then the Tories have not been radical enough.
no, it means the BBC has more short-term influence than I thought!
It’s the arrogance and lack of judgment that will do for dave in the end.
I don’t find Dave particularly arrogant.
If you want sheer fucking arrogance, look at Brown and Blair and their poisonous coterie.
Dave’s failing (and I say that as one who believes he is in an impossible situation) is that he has not taken the fight to Labour. He’s too busy keeping the idiot Lib Dems pissing in the right direction (i.e. from inside the tent to outside and not vice-versa).
Labour are so deeply disgraced and discredited, that he could have really finished them off if he had had the steel, and the room to manouver.
Dave is like Prometheus bound. Helpless by force of circumstance rather than his own failings.
I wouldn’t characterise the reincarnation of Heath’s ghost as Promethian.
I remember Heath as PM. He was a deeply flawed (if sometimes brilliant) man, and not a true Conservative in my reckoning. His love of the Common Market and all that.
I don’t think Cameron and Heath are remotely comparable.
Cameron is straight, not a shirt-lifter like Heath.
Whether he lifted shirts or not, Heath was strong but a liar (30 year rule). Cameron is weak and a liar (cast iron guarantees).
If he hadn’t snatched defeat from the jaws of victory he wouldn’t have needed Calamity Clegg.But would he have dealt with Immigration and Europe?……..I DOUBT IT!
If Cast Iron had snatched victory from the jaws of defeat there wouldn’t be a Labour Party left to worry about.
As for putting NuLabor out of it’s misery the NuBlues seem to be intent on keeping them on life support.
Is there some jerk-circle going on at Westminster that our political elite don’t want us proles to know about?
old tory bigot is just that
dave and all his paratroopers including constituency workers are fucking arrogant, fucking condescending, fucking rude and fucking WRONG
I use the moniker Old Tory Bigot, not because I am, but because some empty headed, childish lout, like you, called me that in a discussion once.
It amused me so I stuck with it.
I there was I thinking that all this hacking and stuff took place when ZanuLabour were in power!
It did but ZaNuLabor with the help of the Beeb are airbrushing history to show themselves in the best possible light.
Why do you think Teflon Tony opened his mouth on the riots, scared someone was finally going to pin the tail on the ZaNuLabor donkey responsible for it all.
For some light relief (and an unintended lifting of the Misery Index) do go to the Yahoo home page today and read some of the comments on what the great unwashed British public really think of Tone and Slotgob
I still think cameron should ditch the lib dems and go for another election now.
the libdems are like a weight around the ankles of the tories stopping them introducing the sort of tory policy most of us would agree with by threatening to remove their votes everytime osborne and cameron try and do anything remotely sensible about reducing benefits, increasing investment for proper jobs or improving education and health….
I do sort of like cleggie but he’s the only remotely decent libdem.
Let’s go for another election and get rid of the libdems out of government – they’ve been the most incompetent, comic, laughable, useless set of ministers we’ve ever had – well after gordon that is!!
He can’t, Nell.
The ConDems are committed to a 5 year term.
Do you think that Wavy Davy would adhere to any agreement he made? He is a politician, FFS!
Well is it legally binding?
If not tear it up!!
This is a win-win strategy.
If it works, Nick “trendy vicar” Clegg and his band of tofu-munching deviants are cast into oblivion forever. Cameron’s excuse for being a socialist eco-loon would be removed and he would actually have to run the country as a Tory.
If it fails, Ed Miliband would preside over the most ruinously inept Government this country has ever seen. Ed Balls would spend the whole time trying to oust him and they’d probably run out of cash to pay all the scrotes and Somalians not to work within six months. They would be cast into the annals of history alongside all the other failed socialist nutters from the Eastern bloc.
Life after Labour? It’d be like year zero in Cambodia – exsept that the EU would send in soldiers instead of the Vietnamese.
Labour win = last one out turn out the lights
Just needs another U turn. No probs.
polls are bollocks. Labour are, as always, massively over represented. by inherently biased pollsters. Add in fair boundaries and reduced seats, Labour haven’t a prayer.
Add devolution max ( no Scottish representation at Westminister ) for Scotland and its nighty night Labour Party for a long,long time,perhaps forever (fingers crossed).And it will be throughly deserved.
How Dave Can win.
1: Cut taxes 10k thresehold and then 10% all rates.
2: Referendum on membership of EU
3: Cut spending by atleast 50%
4: Cut Buisness tax and let them keep 100% of profit.
5: Make the BBC subriction and open to the free market.
6: Simplify the tax code.
Billy,
While such policies might find favour with the readers of this blog, the majority of the electorate would either not understand them or run a mile from them as they would personally suffer (reduced benefits, non-jobs and sundy freebees).
I don’t think Cameron could win with those policies. Labour has spend many years building up a client state that depends on welfare and public jobs. A hell of a lot of the populace live on this parasitical ‘economy’.
Remember how Gordon always seemed to confuse ‘the government’ with ‘the economy’?
The voters have forgot what we fought for in the 2nd world war.
Freedom and that includes freedom from goverment.
I don’t think most of them ever knew. I mean they voted for Attlee right after the war itself!
Democrcy as are humans are flawed.
Yes but it’s not about how we wish it was, it’s about how it actually is.
Most of the electorate couldn’t tell you what WWII was even about, or what happened, or why.
Anyway, end with WWII, I don’t think ‘freedom from government’ was ever on the cards.
‘even with WWII’ not ‘end with WWII’ – sorry.
Oh it was, It was freedom from a Nazi goverment, However the far left changed there tatics.
According to the history taught in schools now, WWII was actually about establishing a J*wish state in P*lestine – nothing else mattered.
If there is another Labour led government in the lifetime of existing voters, I suspect we will be looking at an English Spring, or at least a South East English Spring!
I am sharpening my pickfork just to be ready!!
Wat Tyler, come on down!
Anyone got a short rope and long drop available?
Try a hardware shop near a cliff.
What the country needs is end of life palliative care. Only parts of the patient still believe they can cheat the grim reaper, but the bits still connected to reality know it’s all over bar the death rattle.
No charge!
Guido,
You are probably right about this being a one term Tory Government unfortunately.
It was always likely that the current government would be hugely unpopular because no one had prepared the population by telling them just how bad the economic situation is.
I would reiterate again that we are in a deflationary depression caused by a huge overhang of private and public debt and overinflated asset prices (e.g. house price bubble) left by the previous Labour government. The US has similar problems to us, while the Eurozone has problems caused by having a monetary union without a fiscal union. All of this is deflationary.
I don’t think Osbourne ever understood this and I don’t see many on the right articulating this point. Because of this left will be able to get away with their disasterous economic policies of the past 10+ years and enable them to rewrite history.
Low government bond rates just shows that the market knows we likely heading for a deflationary depression. This is not a reward for Osbourne’s economic policy.
The government should carry on eliminating bloat and waste in the public sector but should also consider setting up an infrastructure and investment fund to increase future revenues.
I fear there is no easy way out of this economic depression and few political commentator seem to understand what is happening. I am afraid this includes you Guido as much as I enjoy reading your blog.
There isn’t any deflation about.
I suspect quantitative easing by central banks caused a spike in global commodity prices but QE is over and it did little to help the real economy. Commodity prices are now falling.
On the other hand, bursting asset price bubbles, large private sector debt overhangs (look at household debt) are deflationary. Banks will not be increasing lending because there are few solvent borrowers left to lend to. This is at the root of our economic malaise and not inflation. This is not a rerun of the 1970s or 1980s but of the 1930s. The root cause is all the malinvestment of the past 10-20 years where all the debt went into asset prices bubbles and consumption rather than productive endeavours.
The reason the debt crisis and the eurozone crisis are going to be difficult to get out of is because people are generally unwilling to let go of their preconceptions coloured by recent experiences and their partisan viewpoints. I think the left and right both misunderstand the problems in different ways and as a result we have a crisis of political leadership across the world. The left don’t understand that malinvestment is a problem and right seem preoccupied by inflation.
I don’t see this ending well.
James, what you are saying would have been correct if there had been no QE. But there was QE (and there may be more), so that changes the dynamic. QE stopped deflation and gave us 5% inflation instead. You can be sure that the Lizards/Bilderbergers/Establishment will give us more QE if deflation looks like kicking in.
and by the way if the markets were truly worried about inflation you would not be seeing record lows on government bond yields as we are currently seeing.
The market is worried about deflation and another downturn.
Agree with you re malinvestment and lack of solvent borrowers.
However gold is not falling in price. UK agricultural land is at record highs. The CRB index is still higher than it was at the beginning of the year. Not exactly deflationary signals.
Residential property is falling in price in the West because it was over-priced, that is not the same as across the board deflation. Technology is improving, just because it is cheaper does not mean deflation, it boosts productivity.
Bond prices are high because there is nowhere else to go.
Guido
How would a rise in intrest rates affect savers and borrowers , and do you think this is a possibilty in the next 12 months?
and we’ve still got the olympic games!!
@Billy;
the policy to pay down debt is printing money to run a five percent inflation rate (while lying that the target is two percent), this will not change. Savers and pensioners are being wiped out to support the parasites. There is no Conservative government, or any chance of one. The only real Conservative MP is Douglas Carswell.
I think you posted the graph of private+public debt as a % of GDP for the UK and other countries over the last 10-20 years, As you can see from this graph the amount of debt created increased at a far higher rate than GDP was growing to a historic high.
Normally this would be highly inflationary as it shows that banks were creating large amounts of credit and therefore increasing the money supply. However this time the inflation didn’t go into consumer goods as China and other developing countries were producing cheap goods for the west. Instead this extra money/credit went into bidding up asset prices such as residential and commerical property which people would borrow on to further fund increased consumption of imported goods.
If you think inflation is a problem, the question is what do you think is driving it – what is increasing money supply (certainly not the banks)? We have just lived through a prolonged period of inflation – I doubt the factors driving that are going to come back soon. People’s salaries are not rising but falling so it is not being driven by the consumer. Governments are cutting back on spending so no inflation there. You can make the case that QE caused some inflation but QE is the reaction to the crisis rather than the cause of the crisis.
If this is true, and I’m not sure while Ed is leader, then they should just go for it and not worry about pandering so much.
Cut hard, cut fast, cut business taxes, make the one term work to put us on a good footing heading forward. Because you can be damn sure Labour won’t be doing that if they win.
+1
Good.We will be well rid of the economic burden.Hadrian’s Wall rebuilt would help keep out violent drunks and possibly cannibals again as the English funding comes to an end.
Above meant as reply to 14 re.Scottish independence.
We have been subbing you english parasites for 300 years – only thing keeping the UK afloat is scottish oil and other exports while you fucking shysters sell each other “financial products” and charge half a million for a hovel in London.
If you really believe that, I think we can just laugh at you.
Ignore him – he’s pissed
We offered them peace and civilisation but they would not have it. So we left them to their own devices. The result is the modern scot.
Focking right, mate !
I believe the inglish are offering us Ed Milliband and Ed Balls at the moment !
The modern Scot who built the fucking Empire you imbicilic inglish twat !!!!
Yes, you are right. But the reason they all buggered off overseas was because they could no longer stand being in Scotland.
I see you think deeply about things my friend and have a firm grasp of history. ( thats sarcasim by the way )
Labour would have to have ditched Miliband by 2015
labour aren’t good at ditching their leaders. They don’t seem to have any administrative means, guts or backbone for it.
I see militwit marching purposefully towards the 2015 election and coming an even bigger cropper than gordon, bit like that man who went tilting at windmills.
The one thing I think guido’s probably right about is that the loony libdems will have ditched the at least nominally acceptable cleggie for someone like huhne or simon whatsisname and then they’ll really hit rock bottom.
Please don’t campare Miliminimus to me. At least I knew what I was doing…
Just being so cheerful that keeps me going!
I fear you’re right. The nightmare scenario involves Ed Balls as pm and Sally Bercow as a minister…
And let’s not forget the riots !!
Just got the post code for the next riot …. NI6 6ER
After working 60 hours this week I have enough money for
bills.
I can’t afford guitar strings to enjoy myself. Let alone beer and weed. fucksakes
BLUE LABOUR OUT!!!
The Tories have only themselves to blame. They’ve pissed away opportunities and are riven with infighting, quite apart from the Lib Dim millstones.
Maybe the best Cameron can do is to have a reshuffle favouring the less defeatist/leftie Tories.
AND GIVE US OUR BLOODY REFERENDUM ON EUROPE.
What Tory infighting?
Vicious infighting is the Standard Operational Procedure for the Tory party, both in govermnet and in opposition, but it has been conspicuous by it’s near total absence since the GE.
Have I missed something?
Agree on EU referendum though.
and the good news is…
Guido
May iask you a monertry/finacial question?
If greece and the eurozone get bailed out by taxpayers , will that be it or are just pushing the problem into the longer grass?
Ans how much more protected would we be without being a member of the EU ?
I prepared this monkier on the day of the last GE.
Are you a Blue Peter presenter ?
Here’s a recession I prepared earlier
What a defeatist attitude . There is no way that a party led by Red Ed milliband ,
Blinky Balls or any of the other losers on the shadow front bench could ever
win a majority in a general election . Along with that tosser Gordon Brown,
they ruined our country . The British people will never forget.
Labour left office in 79 and left a right mess but elected back to goverment in 97.
voters do forget.
Never underestimate the shear fucking stupidity, imbicility, selfishness and willful bone-headedness of “The British People’.
Add to that, quite a lot of the ‘British People’ aren’t actually British now.
There seems to be a culture of control-freakery on this site. How very left-wing.
Ha ha, son. These arseholes are lightweight poseurs. They are so far behind the story it might be worth grabbing some popcorn, putting your feet up and watching them try to justify the attention of the advertisers. It’s like rubber-necking a car crash, mate.
Interesting comment. Can I get back to you after Dragon’s Den?
Sure, buddy. You English are masters of the euphemism! I, too, am about to have a little lie down. Mrs. Razor is making those strange cooing noises. Touch base with you later, Johnno.
Why would anyone want to vote a second time for a kleptocracy that had conned them the first time around?
The whole country is sick to death of lies, corruption, bonus bandits, corporate tax dodgers, bogus public inquiries, ineffectual self-regulation, perpetual war, and the surveillance state.
Many who hoped that this rottenness would fade away with the death of New Labour have been left disappointed, and will not vote Conservative again. Not me at any rate.
What an extraordinarily reasoned analysis here from Guido: no Sunday lunch today for a Billy Nomates perhaps?
He may well have called a Coalition, but I’m still hanging on to my Paddy Power national government betting slip: £100 at 30-1 that there’d be one before the end of 2012.
Meanwhile, putting on the longer-vision glasses…
http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2011/08/19/the-global-confluence-of-disaster-why-it-was-bound-to-happen/
Your headline is correct G.
You may be correct but it is far too early to say.Never underestimate Labour’s disunity whilst in opposition.They turned to Blair to win elections but were never comfortable with him and have appointed another Foot-as popular with the comrades as unpopular with the public.
Add the advantage of incumbancy to the redrawn boundaries and they must be in with a chance.Ironically,a Libdem meltdown in the opinion polls may result in a coalition agreement mutually to stand candidates down in a small number of hopeless seats-this must be Labour’s ultimate nightmare but if offered to the Libdems they may prefer it to a wipeout.
i tell you what boyo if you listen to me you’ll be here all night no only jokin I do joke I’m terrible at jokes – no I mean I’m a joker not that I’m a joker I just like jokes they help pass time but as I woz sayin boyo you gotta trust people like I did they know wots wot an I’ll say it agin Glennys an me are doin fine like all tha Labour tossers or should that be losers . . .
So gu i -do has thrown the runes and has come up with the same answer as the loads of people he mod e ra ted and de le ted co mmen ts from, well I never.
Read the rules.
http://www.order-order.com/2004/01/about-guidos-blog/
tch! tch! tch!
Spokes PERSON!
Can’t you learn nuffin!!
I know his rules, Iv’e been on this blog from about 6months after he started from a few comments to his headlines, to his radio, then his tv appearance on BBC and when the left tried to shutdown his blog on a Saturday evening when everybody knew he didn’t come up for fresh air until Monday, been there done that, watched it grow and pick up loads more commentry.
In that case you should know the refund policy here.
Gold watch soon, methinks!
Time for a right wing revolution perhaps ?
We’re only a quarter of the way into a fixed 5 year term.
As for an election, there is still plenty of firepower in ‘Don’t let Labour wreck it’ and with revised boundaries, the bias towards Labour will be cancelled out.
If they get any of the following right, they could be forgiven for the things they didn’t.
Deficit reduction, Immigration, Education, Welfare Reform.
The electorate is so fickle right now, I reckon the coalition would get 10% more support if it told Merkel and Sarkozy to get stuffed.
As long as the economy doesn’t completely tank then I think people would rather have an anodyne economy that’s slowly getting out of trouble than a Shadow Chancellor that has got nothing right since taking office.
I would take a serious punt on Osborne shaving more money off spending and dishing out another tax cut and raising the tax threshold again.
As for Labour, they are in a mess, no money, poor support, awful Leader and a worse frontbench. They should be ahead at 1981 levels of 15%+
The fact they aren’t means that fat lady ain’t singing yet.
nah but you can join for a penny innit!
I just hope you are wrong Guido – Labour should never be allowed to be in government again
Quite. Guido talks about Cameron being embarassed by colleagues who are likely to get banged up, but Labour MPs have never had to face charges for their crimes – they’re the ones who got us into the present dire predicament.
Abandon the municipal North British province to their munificent Council.
Proceed with an English Bill of Rights.
Sod off Wallpaper slime – Hello Mr Redwood PC,MP -a man of contineent thoughts to get a tough grip on ALL of us as Chancellor .
Oh!and fare-ill Dave for all your untrammelled feeble duplicity
!
I’d rather return to the existing Bill of Rights of 1681, minus the obvious hatred of catholics but retaining HM’s subjects’ right to keep and bear arms.
But where oh where are the bears to arm?
Totty watch tag?
Totter watch, more like.
Botty watch more like.
I’m ready to step in as leader. Just say the word.
Don’t go Larry. You’re our only hope
If Cameron genuinely wants to do Conservative things which he can’t because of the compromises inherent to a coalition, then he should clear the decks and call a general election with a manifesto that promises a genuinely radical programme of the kind UKIP offers. If he does this before the possibility of a double dip, he’ll get a majority and then get to sorting the mess without the nuisance of the Lib Dems.
It was having the Diet Conservative manifesto last year which failed to get him a majority. He should call time on the coalition and go to the country with a proper slate of policies in order to avert the horrific danger of another Labour government. If Labour were to get into power again, you can kiss goodbye to Britain and then plan your departure. Ed Miliband as prime minister is a prospect that should terrify everyone.
They can’t fvcking break the coalition!!!! The BBC et al will have a field day telling everyone how mean, duplicitous, and untrustworthy the Conservatives are.
It means the Lib Dems will keep the soft-right cop-out vote and the Tories won’t take the seats they need to off the lib dems and the other marginals, that they need, that Lib Dem voters have kept out of their reach since the nineties.
Clegg knows that, that is why they made them promise the full 5 year term.
Have I got the X Factor?
Someone should cut an ‘X’ in your arsehole!
Guido
I dont get why you are worried, surely George is just building up a war chest for the election, Ed Miliband will go in with higher taxes and spending, Tories (Hopefully ) Lower taxes and less spending?
Eurozone is bollocks unless our goverment chucks em a few billion, america has a socailist President.
Oh well, I’ve done my duty and been tat for the weekend. Your turn next weekend Billy you fucking slacker. I’m off for a kip.
Maybe we will be so fucked that we won’t need a government of any colour because we, the people, would have got rid of the lot of the thieving, self interested bastards forever and will run the country ourselves – all we need is somebody at the end of the phone top organise rubbish collection
Puny minions! When we return to power, we will be their masters! They will obey us! Oops, did we say that out loud? Of course, what we meant to say was you are the masters and we are the servants. And we believe in democracy. Yes.
This is from Labourlist Guido.
You must be their most avid reader – does anyone else read LaboutList?
I think it’s too difficult to call. On the one hand, Camoron is pissing-away our (borrowed) money on the EU and foreign aid and he’s a slavish servant of the EU, and totally anti-English, which counts against him, but on the other hand, Ed “blank sheet of paper after 11 months” Miliband looks, sounds and acts utterly retarded. Plus he stabbed his brother in the back. Plus, Ed’s retarded.
Who will win? Well-educated imbecile Camoron, or poorly-educated fucktard Milimong?
Who knows? But I’d wager that if Dave Miliband was leading the Parasite Party, Camoron would be toast.
What utter nonsense!
You could try this.
Abolish the Income Tax
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ron+paul+abolish+the+income+tax&aq=o
You got that right squire. £22.50 please.
Ditch the libdems and give us a vote on Europe. If they don’t vote UKip!
Lol – Nigel f**king Farage
Right again Guido, but I will not mourn their passing. They have no principles, no ideas, no integrity, no intellectual rigour, no honesty and ultimately, no point.
Labour coming back to power will hasten the collapse this nation sadly needs in order to come to its senses. My only hope is that the coalition stays together for long enough for me to escape this island to somewhere more pleasant (Helmand in fighting season, for example) in order to watch the tragedy unfold.
“They have no principles, no ideas, no integrity, no intellectual rigour, no honesty and ultimately, no point.”
They are politicons!
Nothing has changed since New Labour but the window dressing, a bit of blue tinsel and an old school tie, but the stench of lies and corruption in Westminster has stayed the same.
Latest Message from Ed Milibands Labour party.
Does anyone really care about Coulson? What if he was employed for a year or two by Cameron? Did he do any wrong during that employment? Moreover he seems to be keeping a low profile unlike those who occupied similar roles for Blair and Brown and have genuine concerns to answer like taking the nation to war on a dodgy dossier, for example.
Right , I aint the sharpest tool in the box, But if Order-order is to high brow for me, where do i go?
The Guardian of course.
Billy don’t go, you make the rest of us look good, plus I wuv you vewy much.
Theres plenty of taxpayers money to squander on foreign aid, tens of billions of pounds straight to bent/fake charities and the rest to bent despots.
Its money no object when the euroslime scum come knocking on the door with their hands out, no expense spared or if there is then the ECHR will soon stamp on that.
Plenty of money to hand over to 3rd world immigrants with a desire to live in central London in multi million pound mansions, hey, they fully deserve to live the high life while our OAPs starve in concentration camps AKA old peoples homes.
Bailing out the banksters? Come right in Mr Bankster heres a knighthood and a few billion quid, the taxpayer will happily foot the bill and if they aint happy then so what? That crooked sneering git Osborne happily selling out his own people and nation with the help of his rich friends, he is happy to see his own people in abject poverty just as long as his evil friends get what they want.
Quango land, the employment club for upper middle class friends’N'family the gravy train is 1st class executive ***** luxury with the taxpayer footing a quango bill larger than the defence budget. Looting on a grand scale.
And last but not least the green eco fraud where Camerons already rich family is looting the taxpayer of windmill subsidies over a 3rd of a million quid a year and there are thousands of rich parasites bleeding the taxpayer of tens of billions a year with the political class taking the lead in the looting.
Cameron is a liar and a cheat and a fraud he deserves to be tried for his crimes against the British people along with his Quisling friends.
most psychotic piece of Labour trolling I’ve seen for while on here.
Wake up, wake up and open your eyes. You are a conservative? You have been betrayed, utterly and completely betrayed.My heroes are Reagan and Thatcher and Tebbit and Hannan. The coalition is a front for the most corrupt regime the British people have ever faced, the political and establishment elites are looting public monies as never before. Oh how we laughed when we watched ‘yes prime minister’ yet the evolution of this grotesque moral degeneration has reached its zenith.
Am I psychotic? What the f*ck do you know? Have you not eyes to see, ears to listen and a mind to understand whats going on around you? The British people have been betrayed by those we looked to and trusted. Cameron and his friends are corrupt Quislings looting public funds while betraying their own people. Billions upon billions is simply disappearing from public funds, and the theft is blatant and bare faced. How did Mandelson afford 8 million to buy a house? The political class are the real degenerate criminal looters. Who runs the quangos and the who is riding the gravy train?
The fish rots from the head and the stench is overpowering, if you cannot see that your trust in these criminals has been betrayed then you soon will.
I don’t know if he’s from the Labour Party or not, but I agree with him in many respects. The current government are a profound disappointment, they have changes nothing, achieved nothing.
“disappointment” ?
What the hell were you expecting? They are a coalition for god’s sake! who took over government as the country was mired in the shit, in just about every major area.
I have always been a right-winger but Cameron is governing with the consent of the Lib-dems, so he can’t be a strident Tory if he wanted to be!
Why the hell do people (even the non Liebour trolls) Shit on Cameron for not governing like a radical right-winger when he was never in a position to do so?
Many of the most anti-Cameron are U-skippers.
They are upset because Camo didn’t leave the EU.
They dislike him for not implementing a policy that has never,ever had.
Cast Iron?
Don’t come that shite Christ on A Bike–If it wasn’t for the Lib Dems etc
Camoron is a lying treasonous Blue Labour turd.
Forgot the Hier to Bliar bollox?
They may well get 1 term because big big economic trouble is coming thanks to the worlds political shit.
whoop Whoop!
Time for me to go home, Take care and have a one good all
Thanks for putting up with me Guido
Ps Anyone useing my monkier is fake from now on, Well till back at work tommorrow
Imagine Ed Miliband as Prime Minister. I tried but found it impossible.
David Starkey was spot on – if only we had politicians that told the truth. Now there’s a thought.
There is also the threat of the break up the Union. Come on Englishers be honest. If you had the chance to break away from all the useless t w a t s at Westminster you would take that chance wouldn’t you?
I am now very seriously depressed. Cameron is the reason.He has no backbone. He does not back his ministers with their reforms: has nothing about immigration:panders to the LibDems:tries to be Mr.Nice Guy when we need a strong leader:talks the talk but does f–k all.
Like most members of parliament he has never done a proper day’s work in his life.MPs go tho university,study politics,get into special advisory positions in parliament,then get on the short lists to represent us as MPs.I want someone with life experience to represent me. In fact, if I could pass a law it would be that no-one could become an MP until they had done ten years work completely unconnected to politics.
An old saying. ” I do not know the secret of success but I do know that trying to be all things to all people is the recipe of failure”.
Good riddance, this was just the unofficial 4th term for Labour anyway. The Tories should just be replaced with UKIP and we can move on without pretending we have a conservative government. The only thing worse than a socialist is a socialist pretending to be conservative.
I’d likе to considеr а contrаry position to Guido’s sеt out аbovе. This coаlition hаs bееn forеcаst to fаll аbout sincе dаy onе. In fаct it hаs hеld togеthеr – common intеrеst in powеr – shit sticks to blаnkеts еtc..
Thеrеforе, it is а rеаsonаblе аssumption thаt it will hold for thе tеrm. Аlmost four yеаrs is аn еtеrnity in politics. Guido’s point is will votеrs fееl bеttеr? Bеttеr thаn whаt?
If а doublе dip doеs occur, it will mаttеr how dееp аnd how long it is. Thе fаctors thаt, to mе, diffеrеntiаtе this from 1929 аrе thе sovеrеign wеаlth funds аnd thеir shаrе of thаt pool of monеy thаt hаs to find а homе, onе wаy or аnothеr.
Jаpаn suffеrеd from two dеcаdеs of dеflаtion. To а grеаtеr еxtеnt, thе world’s mаrkеts hаvе simply skirtеd аround this. Thаt cаnnot hаppеn with thе combinеd mаrkеts of USА аnd Еuropе. Thеrе is not еnough “othеr world” lеft. So wе аrе not еxpеcting dеflаtion аs а corrеctivе mеchаnism.
I sее cyclеs bеcoming shortеr аnd morе frеquеnt. Bringing this bаck into thе аrgumеnt, it is possiblе for а doublе dip of shаrp but short durаtion to occur bеforе thе inеvitаblе sounds of ovеrsold аnd chеаp stаrt ringing in our еаrs аgаin. I hеаrd thеm lаst wееk.
Clеаrly, thе pound hаs lost hugе ground sincе 2007. Not only did thаt hаppеn on Brown’s wаtch but it hаs tаintеd his pаrty’s rеputаtion. Thе City will no longеr touch thеm. Thе votеrs (cliеnts аpаrt) rеcognisе this. So а short dip mаy rеbound on thе Cons but if it еnds or is turning, thеn thеir story will still bе bеttеr for middlе Еnglаnd. I think thаt thе аrgumеnt аbovе doеs not tаkе into аccount еnough of thе poisonеd chаlicе еffеct which cаn undoubtеdly bе sold.
Of coursе, I mаy bе wrong. It hаs hаppеnеd bеforе.
If only Fatuous Dave and the rest of his wimps would start putting the boot into NuLabor and telling everyone where this mess came from. – the last lot in power.
They’ve almost lost the propaganda battle on this front.
The poisoned chalice has to be pushed at every interview any member of the coalition gives. If it means getting into a shouting match so be it!
They’re treating NuLabor with kid gloves, if the boot was on the other foot, NuLabor would be in there with their hobnails on.
FOR FECKSAKE DAVE COME OUT FIGHTING!
Labour’s media friends are creating the narrative, which by-the-way, very few people believe.
Its not a ‘propaganda’ war that is needed. They need to kick down the doors of all the corrupt elements from the old regime and make them explain where they amassed their unbelievable wealth without taking bribes or fiddling their taxes.
They coul make a start with the BBC
I just saw one of the funniest things ever on the news. A clip of Libyan state TV news, the newsreader holding a handgun!
Let’s face it Libyan TV is no more biased than BBC TV.
“in that event the LibDems, probably without Clegg, will in all likelihood support a Labour government.”
What LibDems?
They were a sort of alternative political party that flourished in the late 90′s early millennium.
They had a policy of ensuring that they held a right and a left view of any policy and would quote freely from either one. Sometimes even within the same interview.
Once in coalition all this nonsense was exposed and their somewhat embarrassed supporters were forced to make tough choices. Many of them decided that this was not what they had in mind when they went into politics and sought refuge from reality by joining the green party, where their unworkable ideas were warmly embraced.
The last reported Liberal democrat, a Mr P Ashdown, died in 2020 aged 99.
Why bother even voting?
It’s blatantly obvious that the entire system is broken beyond repair.
Not if Ed and Ed are still in charge.
A vote for labour is a vote for political correctness and economic incompetence. When you’re in a fix, you don’t vote for the guy who put you there. If you’re stupid enough to do so then you deserve everything that’s coming your way.
And that is exactly what will happen. This nation of fuckwits will get the government it deserves and the IMF will come calling a short time later.
Let the greedy plebs vote for their own destruction. Once the free money fallacy has been properly exposed we made be able to rebuild from more solid foundations.
This place is fucked until we rediscover competence, integrity and accountability. There is no chance of the ‘great’ British public allowing that to happen without a monumental epiphany – they’ll vote their own currency into the toilet first.
Only a good old fashioned financial buttfucking, with no lube, can provide enough of the pillow-biting reality required to break the spells of corporatism and welfarism. Then the whining, lazy, parasitic turds at the top and bottom may actually start working for a living again.
This whole piece is nonsense.
Apart from anything else, it isn’t a Tory government, it’s a coalition, and judging by the last local election results, the Conservatives are doing very nicely, certainly in the areas the need to.
Also, the economy has been fvcked for years. Collapsing Eurozone or US economies, can’t be blamed on Osbourne or the coalition government.
In the real world, outside of Labour’s friends at the BBC and media village, most people know that we are still in the midst of an economic shit storm that the present government didn’t cause and instead, have the misfortune of trying to manage.
Labour’s reputation for economic management is terrible, Militwat and Balls will not change that perception anytime soon.
Also, having such a whopping national debt, will effectively kill the usual left-wing arguments and boiler plate anti-Tory sloganeering. They cannot be credible in saying the Conservatives are mean and nasty for not spending other peoples money on all those welfare charmers that we witnessed in the riots, because people will ask where the hell the money is supposed to come from without bankrupting the country?
If Labour try to look like responsible managers by saying the Tories are not bringing down they debt fast enough, firstly they don’t have any credibility on this, secondly, it will mean they will have to admit to raising taxes and or cutting spending even more, none of which is going to entice the floating vote.
The economic crisis, much like the manifestation of the “broken society” we have recently witnessed, has given a huge boost to us right-wingers. More people are begining to see more clearly the problems of excessive public spending, too much welfareism and alley-cat morals of parts of the population. All of which have been promoted by Labour and the left for decades, and consistently opposed by the right (and sometimes, even the Tories)
Guido, You have left one important factor out of the equation – Red Ed.
Do you honestly think the electorate would be so daft as to put that utter non entity in to Downing Street? Oh, on second thoughts though you may well be right – they haven’t shown much sense in the past.
Good riddance – Squandervatives could’ve been revolutionary and we could have had a 90s New Zealand style renaissance; instead theyve become a joke, at the whim of a single man’s vanity and paranoia.
Gadaffi has been beheaded by the rebels!!!!!!!!!
We do not want any of that talk here. We are a very civilised country and only support the death penalty in the tin pot Arab states that we have created.
Anyway we would rather inflict mental torture on a child killer for the rest of his or her natural life rather than putting them out of their misery.
I’ve just read in thye tripoli post that he’s cornered in a hotel
reports coming in that he has been shot dead in street
We’d better organise a couple of £ 2,000,000.00 Council houses for him and his family.
345.http://twitter.com/#!/MalikAlAbdeh/status/105375443460423680
CONFIRMED: Mu’amar #Gaddafi, leader of #Libya for 42 years, has been shot DEAD in vicinity of Rixos Hotel in #Tripoli. #FF
TWATTER
TREAT WITH CARE
That is the hotel all the foreign correspondents are housed in.
Reporting from the spa and bar no doubt.
How civilised that they should allow some alcohol in a Muslim country. This Qadafi fellow seems quite a decent cad, don’t you think?
If Dave does lose the next election then the Conservatives can rightly claim that not only did they fail to win the last election they also failed to win the next one.
But when will the Conservatives put up a Conservative leader that the Conservative voter can vote for?
I’ve got a crack addiction.
Someone on the Spectator site commented that Toby Young’s interview read like it was one of Johann Hari’s. Whatever could they possibly mean?
If Miliband and his vermin get back into power, I will be voting for Independence. Many of my fellow Scots feel the same, we can’t bear the thought of another decade of Labour and their monumental fuck ups and more destruction to the UK.
In Scotland Labour are on the decline, many have woken up to their destructive policies. Unless the Tories can perform miracles and the Labour Party die a horrible death there will be no Union. England is sadly dying and Labour will hasten its death, Scotland will not tolerate a similar fate. Scotland is losing its wife and very soon the Union will be just a memory one that we may shed a tear. Goodbye England the wife of Scotland. We will remember ye fondly and how the strong man o oil carried ye for so long and back then you were worth carrying but those days are long gone., Now we scratch our heads in wonder. What went wrong?
Just back from a week in Fucking Scotland after three years abstinence from its profound fuckwittery.
Windmills all over the place since I left. Traffic still fucked up in Edin-fucking-burgh while they set some rails in the road so’s they can all travel in a tram to the airport (what’s wrong with the bus like generations before them?) and get the fuck out of the horrible shit-hole they had the misfortune to be born into.
Thanks for the oil money though – it sure helped us through that tricky period from 1600 to 1980.
Fife? Lived there for six years. What a shit-hole. I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy. Luckily the Maximum Imbecile voluntarily lives there between speaking engagements. Hahahahah. What a jackass.
If I could resurrect Osama Bin Laden I’d force him to live there. It’s like Hell – only wetter.
Jgm2 do us a favour and dont come fucking back .
In a word – loony Scottish politicians (you can name them yourself).
After I finished my second term as US President, I decided to launch my acting career. My Best Actor Oscar is one of my most prized possessions.
a number of reports say Gadaffi shot dead in street
If you Limeys dont sort yourselves soon I will have to intervene, and it wont be pretty
Do you think Jedward like me? Or Wagner? I hope JLS like me. And Louis Walsh.
Oh dear, there seems to be a lot of worry about. What the actual story is this – ‘The Tories have absolutely no effing idea what to do about the problems of their very own system, capitalism. No idea at all. So why not cut their losses and throw in the towel.’
Some truth in that. However, the other political parties have even less idea what to do about anything, so it’s Hobson’s choice at the moment.
The only good thing you can say about the Tories is that they are slightly less incompetent than all the others.
The problem was caused by Socialism making things “too big to fail” and bailing out politically connected Bank Bondholders.
The problem was also caused by Socialist taxing the fuck out of the economy and patching it up with debt, until it died.
It wasn’t capitalism that caused it it was the parasite on it, the state that caused the initial debt volume problem, then made it worse.
Ah, the old Trot trick – When things go well it’s capitalism; when things go badly, it’s not ‘real’ capitalism. We can see through them and we can see through you.
Well the Limp Dems will be wiped out at the next election if the Tories don’t get the economy right and if the Tories can get the fiddled extra seats that Liebore keep winning sorted.
However, I didn’t go to Eton nor stick my penis up a 12 year old, but even I can work out that to get out economy going you need to CUT TAXES not put them up. You also need to cut public spending.
1. Cut fuel duty by 20p a litre (and arrest any oil company exec who refuses ot pass the cut on)
2. Cut income tax.
3. Cut VAT
4. Sack anyone working in the public sector who earns more than £100,000 a year.
5. Anyone in the public sector earning between 50-100K a year should be made to take a 20% pay cut or lose their job.
6. Get the fuck out of Afghanistan
7. Make the bone idle bastards on benefits get a job.
8. Close down the BBC.
I think your priority number 8 should be pushed up to number ONE.
While voters are daily misled by a self-serving, self-interested, self-propogating shower of tax-parasites then there is precious little hope for self-reliance, self actualisation (the bed-wetters love that) and self respect.
The Labour party, absent the CO-OP bankrolling their horrendous overdraft, are as ba*nk*r*up*t as the state in which they left the entire UK. The ONLY think keeping them in any semblance of political credibility is the annual 3bn 24/7 propaganda machine that is the BBC.
Imagine if the BBC were broadcasting 24/7 how the previous government had borrowed their way into recession. How, during the ‘good’ times they were still forced to borrow 3% of GDP to engineer 2% of ‘growth’. Imagine if you will a true, independent, national broadcaster.
And then imagine the exact opposite and you have the BBC.
And then realise you’re paying 3bn quid a year to have them lie, cover up and hide on an obscure web-page something embarrassing to the Labour party just so they can claim that ‘over the range of their output’ that they’re unbiased while simultaneously creating anti-Tory press out of nowhere and leading the TV news with it.
The fucking place wants burning to the ground but I’ll bet that if we had another four years of riots and every high street in the UK was burned to the ground that the ‘independent’ BBC would somehow survive to helpfully explain that these riots were all the fault of ‘too deep, too fast’ cuts.
Oh fuck our fair weather friend has returned. Anyday now will see the arrival of the Paragnostic.
Just a thought…
the gadaffi’s are falling tonight and tripoli is beginning to party.
so is mandy, bliar, gordon and the lse , those erstwhile friends of the gadaffi family especially saif, moving all to rescue their dearest bosom pals from danger?
No??!! They’ve actually gone and hid tonight whilst the gadafi’s try and flee.
What is that line about fairweather friends??!!
apparently saif al islam gadaffi has been captured by the rebels as tripoli falls.
johann says ‘I have an interview with saif tomorrow as he and his father proclaim victory over nato and the foreign insurgents sent by cameron. saif tells me he is going to cement an alliance with the next british pm edmilitwit through his very close and personal bosom pal mandy!!’
Does this mean that Tony Blair will have to give that £6 million advisor fee back to teh Libtans now?
I agree with a lot of what been said tonight. The fact remains that the gap between the ‘silent majority’ of Britain, who actually fund Britain, and our elected politicians, has never been wider. We vote for a Government and then have no control over them. They decide whether to go to war, even though they know that the majority of Brits are against it.
There are so many areas where the chasm is obvious that I am surprised that a serious Political writer has not managed to produce a comprehensive list of the deficiences. And that includes you, Paul!!!
If anyone is interested, I have written the first ever blog in my life. If you can send an E-mail address I can instruct the blog to give you access.
We’re doomed. More correctly – we’re pre-doomed.
Cameron is to the UK what Obama is to the USA. He’s the poor dumb sap who has inherited an utter clusterfuck left by the previous incompetent jackass. Thats why Obama despised Brown. He saw in Brown the same incompetent, economy destroying, deficit-deying, reality-denying jackass that he saw in Bush.
The yanks, God love them, will elect an utter imbecile because Obama cannot, after all, give them ‘hope’ or ‘change’ and the Great British Public will elect Miliband for the same reason.
We’re fucked. Gold is 1800USD for a reason.
You don’t believe your government could possibly be that incompetent – but, as Bush and Brown have proved – they really can.
I think Obama is the US version of Brown.
both similar academic fuckwits.
Doesn’t really matter. No matter who wins the election, the political class always gets in. More of the same, just different spin.
Vain, bumptious and wrong – Guido is getting caught in the same Westminster mindset he used to expose.
In the real world, absolutely nobody is saying “If only we could have Miliband and Balls” and nobody is saying Oh Blair and Brown, where have you gone?”
Yes we are in the shit and will undoubtedly still be there in 4 years time but who will be calling for Labour to dig us out? Guido won’t that’s for sure.
We the sheeple aint rioting cos Big bro and X Factor is on innit. Peace bluid.
NEW TECHNOLOGY will solve the problem.
http://f2cscotland.blogspot.com/2011/08/can-air-quality-standard-resolve.html
The backlash is GLOBAL.
http://www.antiprohibition.org/
THE TYRANNY OF GADHAFI IS AT AN END.
Who will be next to fall to public opinion?
http://f2cscotland.blogspot.com/2011/04/more-on-ash-scotlands-alliances.html
Red Ken, Red Ed, Gormless Gordon and Teflon Tony….will be sort at their millionaire mansions!
Apache hellfire missiles are optional…but a necessary evil!
The Evil of Liebour
Paveway II bombs are more accurate and effective
Guess what you lot – the UK relies on the EU to be doing rather well- so don’t stop spending yoru holidays there.
Toodle pip!
Surely you have that arse about face? The EU relies on the UK to be doing well so that lots of binge drinking yobs can go to Marbella (or wherever the IN place is this year)?
Scotland willnae tolerate Miliband’s Mingers n Chavs. So tata Union and have a good one.
Scotch MPs’ support for Labour CAUSED the welfare dependency culture
Whereas inglish support for Labour was irrelevant ? Really??
Actually just checked that linked prediction:
“The Tories have received 33% of the popular vote, LibDems 29% and Labour 24%, a strong 6% showing by the BNP concentrated in Labour heartlands has shocked the political system and given the party its first Westminster MP in Stoke, where Labour’s vote split. UKIP’s Nigel Farage has taken Buckingham, after two recounts, by 7 votes. Ed Balls has lost his Morley and Outwood seat to the Tory hero of election night, Antony Calvert. The SNP has made strong gains strengthening Alex Salmond’s claims for Scotland to be granted more self determination.”
How do you do it?
Jimmy that was a “what if”, but you knew that. There were plenty of articles advocating a coalition.
To be fair, you did consistently predict that the coalition would force Labour to concede second place.
Breaking News. (maybe)
Sky says Reuters is reporting “Gaddafi captured by rebels”.
Sounds ominous, they don’t know if they’re talking about one of the relatives though.
BBC News 24 is doing what they always do, ie, showing a string of repeats and missing the point of rolling news. As per usual.
What next for Libya ?
One hell of a piss up ?
The 7th century?
They’re headed down the road to Western ‘democracy’ – which means they’re fucked.
A week is a long time in politics. Four years is an almost geological timescale in political terms.
How many “Events, Dear boy, Events” are we going to get between now and 2015? Some very challenging economic times, for sure – but what else?
Far too soon for speculation like this, Guido.
Firstly congrats to Brit & Frog Special Forces for taking Tripoli. oops sorry I mean the men in tracksuits shooting at the sky!
Secondly Gaddafi’s big mate is putting in offers on @8M houses. I CANNOT BELIEVE that there isn’t sum seriously murky financial stuff involving Mandy that Guido could publish but won’t coz Mandy has a super injunction and Paul is maybe scared.
I note that none of the papers are saying precisely where Mandleslime’s new house is.
Funny that…
It’s wherever you see a gutter
Gadaffi entering the Big Brother House any time now… (Well, it makes as much sense as anything else going on now.)
My worst case senario is Gadaffi entering Silly Bercow but Im asdured thats highly unlikely .
If it did happen, it would be a back stairs job for sure.
Anyone flicking news channels tonight?
Sky – people on the street, live feed from Tripoli, amazing.
BBC – Reporter stuck in hotel, Elf ‘n’ Safety extravaganza.
Lol yes I was thinkingthat myself. The Beeb reprter was saying I cant get out of the Hotel. What or who is stopping him ? He also made his report standing at the window of his apartment. Snipers !
We gave you Maxwell, Baird, Watt, Bell, Livingstone, McAdam, Fleming, Smith and you gave us Milliband, Balls and Harman !
You appear to have overlooked also giving us Bliar Brown Campbell Cook Alexander etc etc etc ad nauseam.
oops mod ded. Forgot the bloody p e a tripwire.
You seem to have overlooked also giving us Bliar Brown Campbell Cook Alexander etc etc etc ad nauseam.
Campbell is inglish but that aside I was making the point too subtly for some obviously that too many people on here are quite happy to stereotype my countrymen and its actually just as easy to do the same back. Still goes over most folks heads it would appear.
Ps I always chuckle when those who try and mock me for my spelling on inglish as they are often the same ones who used the tired old phrase scotch. They just dont get it !
But the Sky Lady is on the back of a Technical running around Green Square with joyous firing all around. License fee refund please.
BBC Libya coverage is terrible.
Sky are right there with the action and Alex Crawford is a star. She has been very brave throughout the whole war.
dont forget early days of war when Lisa holland was there , as one or two other had dangerous moments . Still risky road trip for alex none the less , (could have been all waiting for fightout in greensquare) although alex does seem to like those best journo danger awards
I appreciate Ghaddaiifs sons have been captured , but there are literally 1000s of people on the payroll who have not been captured , his hard core stasi ,khamis brigade and perhaps a lot of money .
I would think quite a lot of work is now needed to put in place the sound international institutions , and hope than any ghaddafi emmigrating cronies never interefer again in libyas affairs . the missing ones and the stasi will be quite a tale if he is to avoid prosecution , story will still need to be told for the 42yrs he ruled to be judged by the arab world properly and justice done for the libyan people who he wronged .
Just hope the new government has learned from iraq and has a different international outlook , hope it affects the arab league to see it was wrong in not speaking more into the state of its nations sooner and was behind the democrcay need.
hope it has sunk into assads regieme also , elections in feb 2012 , seems a bit late , how many years has fake state of emergency kept him in power ?? like ghaddafis socialism did .
Have I got the eye of the tiger?
You don’t see that many magicians and conjurors these days.
Fear not, the black arts are alive and flourishing as never before.
Fawkes would have you believe that the parties of Cameron and Miliband are as different as chalk and cheese.
Neat trick, at least for most of the remaining fewer than two out of three registered suckers who could be arsed to vote in 2010.
Meanwhile, in plain sight, before your very eyes, the white English will become an ethnic minority in England within another generation.
And what will the Tories, Labour and the Lib-Dems do then, poor things?
As green square celebrates the ending of 42 yrs of corrupt power (1 down 4 to go), it brought back some fond memories of 2010 Uk gen election , if only we had captured the ruin and his cabinet and offered for them to leave and go somewhere else .
I think I might refer to some of last weeks analysis that the markets do not have much faith in what the politicians are doing , these emergency EU meetings which seem not to do anything , only last week Obama (on the bunker bus tour)was talking about more spending on infrastructure . Its one thing to say they dont know what to do , quite another to not explain .The EU is not cutting cost (somthing which would provide ecnomic growth in manufacturing economies) .Still no idea on making safe toxic debts or rigour on eurozone countries ,spending and tax collections .
I appreciate the word confidence gets used a lot when discussing markets , but the debt has been created on the back of creative economics and engineered booms which always were going to show up the eurozones underlying real economy . A banking crisis in france or germnany is another problem entirely of there own making as they chose to pump the debt into these banks .
Why has the chancellor allowed nationalised banks to buy european debt , thereby affecting there balance sheets (and return of our money) .
dont know , wont say , cant decide is the pot that seems to be being passed around .
of course growth speculation doesnt seem to be much use at the moment , and if not carefull the markets may allow the pessimissim to become admission that some things are/were overvalued .
The safe haven bit , I think is correct in that we should have a good reputation in finance and our services are good , the not so safe bit is that there still seems a bill for the fail somewhere in the pipeline if the euro banks suffer more , which perhaps is what is making some wonder if george and dave should not have made some more deft and resolute approaches to the EU finances . Trying to keep our powder dry or procrastinating and hiding the real agenda ????
One term ……… bit too soon to say , some very important arguments have been won in the last year (i dare not think what it would be like if labour had just continued with there lies ) , I give dave an awful lot of credit for fighting some important battles , and having some skill at sorting some problems out ,which unfortunately he seemed to have not got right and that includes how the coalition was working . He went into the election preparing for picking up after Blairism (which many thought was a success, so did i for most of his premiership , perhaps we will never know if Blair was stupid ,inept or just lying for socialism , but I do not beleive he did not see the figures or question the gold sell off ) and instead has to run the country on the back of one of the biggest debts we have ever had .
Peter hitchens still has doubts and some commentators are seeing that a lead is better than coalition management speil . It will be a blow for me if dave cannot find the correct combinations of command and politics , in part because I believe he is a very talented man , worthy of the job of PM and has had very dire and toxic circumstances (which would have sent most wannabes into early retirement) . In some ways he is improving as a PM and is perhaps more knowledgeable about matters , as some of his more early approaches have undergone testing and had to be re thought .
I am trying to avoid physcophancy , but i think he has done a remarkable job even though he has been modernising and er untory at times (although the times are different) and has not liked his encounters with the right .
there is though still some gaps , labour did not get the utter finishing they deserved in the GE , and the libs cant really blame anyone as they were in with labour for many years ,in the comfy left middle , so when labour got found out , they were always gonna pay . The coalition offers them some stabilasition , but to me they seem to be pissing that down the drain with being unresponsive or playing games , almost habitual offenders now in my book .
but let us imagine if george ,Dave and steve hilton are planing some sort of liberal puppet to EU ,cash for chums idea and they are faking there devotion to the UK and its people . Well if that good a trick , it will of course fool us and it will have been a waste of time as yet another liberal elite sells ordinary extorted and decived tax payer into destitution whilst they make good on whatever deals they have managed to do .
The conference season is soon and another bout of speaking and subterfuge to undermine conservatives , we will perhaps learn a great deal from this session , i am waiting to see , dave may well have improved as may ministers ,it could still turn one term if we havent cleaned the stables enough or rethought medication on broken decived and lied to britain .So we may come to at least thanks and give some credit to the conservatives post conferences . I think the numbers are suggesting somthing more awful futher down the road but it may be solvable .
the new conservatives for a busted country is a bit of mis match , the old conservatives could have put the books right (you know the ones who got told they were not really wanted and sounded all era wrong and were barged aside by the metropolitian uberbots). Egos love fans I just hope that dave has learned why his party used to have so many more members , who werent fans , but thought they were members of somthing honest that loved its countries story ,places and people , and not just corporate lackys .
T
Total Bullshit, Red Ed Moribund couldn’t win an election against a half eaten pork pie, the man is a joke. Major cities across the UK burn for days and the oppositions ratings DROPPED! What exactly do you think he’s going to do in the next few years which is going to turn things around? And this is before we even get to the pre election debates where Balls will still be denying that Labour screwed the economy and Millibrain will repeat the same answer to every question across all three debates like a demented animatronic on the fritz.
Tony Blair calls for the government not to play politics with the riots.
Jesus Christ! What hypocrisy! It was his decade of government that laid the groundwork for it all.
Still he cannot see the light…
Blair is Darkness.
Why the surprise ??…Socialists and their supporters have always re-written history…the BBC is hard at it as we speak…to hear them talk you’d think that the period 1997 – 2010 was a “Golden Age” and that if we had a Labour Government instead of this Tory-led Caolition everything would be rosy…they’d be no cuts;no unemployment;no riots;massive spending in the shops on credit and happy dancing children in the streets……………..
Do you have to be so pessimistic on a Monday morning? Surely, after 13 years of the other lot, the voters would not be so stupid as to vote in the likes of Ed and Ed?
Have to disagree Guido. An unpopular government will beat a weak opposition. 1992. 2005.
I agree with the analysis of the difficulties facing the Tories. However, I doubt that Labour are capable of capitalising upon these difficulties and face more trouble than the Tories. Also, Cameron is about to be handed a war victory and Gadaffi’s head on a plate, thanks to a long-term and largely-ignored air campaign by the RAF. This will, in turn, put pressure on Syria and mollify those Lib Dems with an international conscience.
I don’t agree Guido. In 4 years time what will the main choices be for the electorate. Dave, Nick or Siliband. The Limp Dims vote will sink like a stone, Siliband has no traction so Dave will be most folks only option. Now if he had real competition, that would be a different matter!
Who the hell wants to be in power in 2015?
That’s the year that someone has to go on television and announce that people will only be getting power in ordered rotation.
So obviously that’s London during the working day, everyone else either evening or morning.
It’s nothing to do with the oil — that’s the year in which several governments’ dithering over new nuclear power meets the environmentalists’ demands for wind power instead of clean coal meets the environmentalists’ and NIMBYs’ demands for not wind power meets the EU’s determination to shut down coal power stations.
Leaving the UK with not enough generating capacity. And that particular crapstorm has been set in motion and now can’t be changed. We don’t have enough time between then and now to sort it out.
Since much of it is Labour’s fault it does seem fair that it’ll be one of them who will have to explain why Sheffield is only important enough to get power between midnight and 4am.
I lived through such a situation a couple of years ago.
1/. The pubs do fabulous business and one gets to meet the neighbours.
2/. One makes lots of new friends. Especially single women who don’t understand the manual overide on their electric gates or are afraid to go home alone in the dark.
3/. Huge upsurge in portable generator sales, camping-gaz lights and stoves.
4/.Greek restaurants with traditional wood-fired ovens make a fortune.
5/.With no Tv and no computers people started talking to each other.
6/. With traffic lights knocked out drivers sort it out themselves and traffic flows smoothly.
7/. You get an extra few days to pay your bills as “The computer’s down”.
8/.With the ATMs off one starts to save money or learn to cadge effectively.
If what you say happens, the UK would deserve everything it got!!!!
How could we forget the damage done by Blair and Brown aided by Campbell et al.
If Cameron is not straight and doesn’t stop manoeuvring to protect Coulson et al, the Tories will indeed be one term Tories.
Never mind all this rubbish, when is somebody going to slap piggy Pickles round the face?
There is no way Red Ed will be PM, Osborne will go into the election cutting taxes and promising no more spending cuts. With the LDs being massacred taht should be enough for a 2015 Tory majority of about 20!
Quite funny reading some of the ludicrous right-wing crap on here: Joe Stalin’s completely muddled analysis of what a ‘Trotskyite’ is being a particular classic. Sorry dearie, not all of us think that gay rights are a bad thing, and not all people who believe in them are Trotskyite… David Laws ranting about the EU, and HRA is good solid loonie rightism too.
Do you hire these people to make you look semi-reasonable, Guido? Sorry you’re having a wobble. Could it be that the British public aren’t quite as right wing as you (and even more the rag bag of loonies posting on here) thought…?
The effects of constituency equalisation and boundary changes should not be overlooked.
Labour cannot win again without minor party support
Current opinion polls are putting Labour on 42% – easily enough to govern on their own.
The Tories are stuck on 36% – the same as at the last G.E. They only won because the Lib Dems did so well (23%) and the Lib Dems are now on less than 10%.
Call Me Dave only managed to raise the Tory vote by 3% compared with Michael Howard’s effort in 2005!
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