August 17th, 2011

Who Is Peter Thiel?

Peter Thiel has had one of the best reactions to reading Atlas Shrugged that Guido has ever seen. The PayPal founder has poured $1.25m into the Seasteading Institute, which the Mail describes as “an organization that aspires to launch a floating colony into international waters, freeing them and like-minded thinkers to live by Libertarian ideals.”

Though some are already shouting “crazy” at him, Thiel seems pretty confident:

“…there are quite a lot of people who think it’s not possible. That’s a good thing. We don’t need to really worry about those people very much, because since they don’t think it’s possible they won’t take us very seriously. And they will not actually try to stop us until it’s too late.”

Who’s up for Guido Island?


255 Comments

  1. 1
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    What are the tax rates Guido?

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    • 14
      Put Bowden on the stop list says:

      I suspect that there will not be room for good for nothing screen lickers who do not contribute anything useful to society, and who aren’t even remotely amusing.

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      • 24
        Steve Miliband says:

        That counts out the socialists

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          He's got one more sweet then me! says:

          They’ll set up a theory of class exploitation based on who gets the portholes.

          No boarding cards for them, please.

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          • G. K. Beloc says:

            They won’t let Guido in there anyway. Firstly, he’s far too poor, and secondly there’s the transmontanist issue. I mean, it’d be bloody dangerous having someone who might secretly subscribe to Rerum Novarum and Quadragesimo Anno onboard. Turn your back and they might start redistributing the ship so that the crew all get fair shares.

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          • Put Bowden on the stop list says:

            So Bowden and the other screen lickers don’t like my comment huh!

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          • Put Bowden on the stop list says:

            … maybe a bit to close to home! If you don’t like it please feel free to take a full refund etc

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          • Anonymous says:

            Thiel is just another libertarian who spouts on about gay rights and indvidual freedoms being the most important issues in the world. Why?…because it’s good for business.

            He’s a far right predatory libertarian who promotes Austrian School economic theory. He made most of his money speculating with other peoples money and is just another bubble chaser.

            People of his kind abuse liberal-democracies for their own greedy needs.

            The liberal-democratic system counts on most of the electorate not understanding how it really works in the interest of those who profit from it. That’s what anarchism, or ‘freedom’, is really all about, and it’s why some foreign regimes try to keep us out.

            Anarchist Libertarians like Alisa Zinov’yevna Rosenbaum (Ayn Rand) and Thiel conspire to keep the world as they desire. They just do (did) it in different ways.

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          • from the heavily gilded office of the Prime Mincer says:

            can I be queen ?

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          • Da Bill B Da Man Innit says:

            Hey, Billy! You’ve wound up yet another tosser!

            Well done, old chap – keep up the good work

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          • AC1 says:

            Only people like anonymong knows what best for other people and that’s why its perfectly fine to extort it from them, even if they are stupid enough to disagree.

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          • Bedwetterworld says:

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          • God is an Englishman. says:

            Atlas shrugged!

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      • 139
        Rage Against the Political Elite says:

        Put me down for a seat. I would live any where happily outside of the State Sponsored Terrorism, Economic Terrorism, and the way Government has been hijacked by the Political Elite, To Destroy then offer the Tools to Fix our every Problem. The Political Elite have lost their Legitimate Roll through their total disregard of the LAW and any Due Process. They have created a fragmented State through Social Science Experimentation the disenfranchise of the young Men and Man hood in General.

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      • 147
        Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

        So Bowden and his fellow screen lickers don’t like this comment.

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      • 202
        Anonymous says:

        Four years for incitement to riot on Facebook. Surely Jody McIntyre and Laurie Penny should have had their collars felt by now.

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      • 222
        Displaced Brummie says:

        That’s you, then, 14!

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    • 16
      Free State says:

      Will politicians be banned?

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      • 108
        Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

        no politicons please

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      • 175
        BBC auditor says:

        There should be a separate lonely island for politicians which they can run themselves. I propose the first castaway being Harriat Harridan Harperson.
        Should be interesting to see them all fighting each other to death.
        Would be a better TV reality programme than the Beeb or others are currently showing or planning, that’s for sure.

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      • 200
        The Golem says:

        … and lawyers too?

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    • 30
      Robinson says:

      Will Guido Island Have the death penalty?

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    • 31
      Silly Bercow says:

      Will it be a bit like the Big Brother House ? If so Im up for it.

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    • 43
      Blackbeard says:

      Arrrh! ‘Twas my idea, ye scurvy dogs! Me and me crew of like-minded libertarians did terrorise the Spanish Main free from all that Governor This, Governor That, more-water-with-your-rum Leveller nonsense! A curse on all socialist swabs wherever they may crawl!

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    • 52
      nell says:

      More importantly Billy – will there be cricket there and shall we get a free glass of wine

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    • 69
      Admiral Leach says:

      I’d avoid the East Coast of Africa and if this chap who runs PayPal is anything like the service he flogs I’d make sure you’ve got a life boat to hand as he likes to take a big % of all transactions.

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      AC1 says:

      I would suggest that Georgism would be a good way of doing away with the harmful aspects of transfer taxation.

      New Land (i.e. boats etc) could be given via tax (LVT) refunds. In time LVT refunds would become the local currency.

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    • 181
      Mr Slater says:

      If you need any Parrots for your Island, call me…

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    • 243
      low resolution fox says:

      Why not just move to the Cayman Islands?

      Love the idea in principle, but realistically how much will this cost per square foot. Probably only going to be occupied by financial services and hedgers.

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    • 255
      Florence Tyler says:

      This guy is a major backer of the transhumanist movement- a movement that enaged citizens need to be wary of.They are wolves in sheeps clothings in the sense that they talk benignly about technological progress but their approach economically means that technology will solidify the divide in society. Ray kurzweil is another very rich guy backing this movement but hes obviously a fantasist and so is ignored by the majority BUT his fetish of tecnhology and the values underpinning it are dangerous in themselves even if his “technoutopia” will not in reality fully come into existence.More like dystopia.

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  2. 2
    misterned says:

    Sounds like a plan.

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    • 102
      Nemo says:

      It sounds like “Water World” an all time motion picture flop

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    • 234
      Figure of Hate says:

      For all of its faults, I quite like the island most of us are on.

      I feel it’s improving as well, but we will have to be patient.

      For me the biggest issue isn’t the economy, employment or law and order, it’s HMG having its hands tied by an electorate that’s been brainwashed for 13 years. That will take some time to undo. Everything else is in a holding pattern until that’s resolved.

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  3. 3
    Gordon Brown says:

    I apply for the job of captain and deck chair arranger.

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  4. 4
    Piers is a witch says:

    So rather than hanging Piers we can drown him?

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  5. 4
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    “Whose up for Guido Island?”

    with the death penalty for cop killers and kid killers?

    Could you ban socailisim on a Libertarian island?

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    • 18
      A Spelling (Miss) says:

      ‘Socialism’, amigo. I wouldn’t mention it, but you use and mis-spell it so often.

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    • 35
      Disgusted of Antarctica says:

      What’s ‘Socailisim’, Billy Bum-Fuck?

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    • 59
      Sad soul says:

      And all lawyers

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      • 182
        Alexsandr says:

        will there be beer and lap dancers and hookers and stuff like that?
        no?
        count me out!

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        • 216
          Nemo says:

          But think of all those lovely STIs no medical attention, no drugs etc except if you have loads of dosh, when that’s gone over the side with you, it only takes one. Think of all those lovely fights you would get into, no referees, no law inforcement, the biggest wins. Do remember that Goulding book Lord of the Flies, it would end up like that, only no ship will be there to bring order, oh dear, becareful for what you wish for, you might get more than you bargained for.

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    • 72
      Black Flag says:

      I love the idea that a bunch of webmongs get excited by the idea of a Libertarian island and the first thing you want to do is control what other people think. #missesthepoint

      Some of you seem to confuse Libertarianism with Fascism.

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  6. 6
    daedalus says:

    isn’t this basically the back-story to “Bioshock”? we all know how that turned out …

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    • 17

      What an excellent spot.

      The Boston Globe described Bioshock as ” beautiful, brutal, and disquieting one of the best in years,” and compared the game to Whittaker Chambers’s 1957 riposte to Atlas Shrugged, Big Sister Is Watching You.

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      • 65
        Atlas Shrugged is a terrible book says:

        That’s the best review of “Atlas” I’ve read, thanks for that. Love how it ends;

        “Nor would we, ordinarily, place much confidence in the diagnosis of a doctor who supposes that the Hippocratic Oath is a kind of curse.”

        Meanwhile this new “Rapture” *cough* sorry “Galtville” will have a “relaxed” attitude to both guns and planning regulations. So much like Rapture expect this island to end up at the bottom of the sea.

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        • 246
          GC says:

          “That’s the best review of “Atlas” I’ve read”

          Nah, the review is crap; It divulges no specific information and contains too many straw men, which suggests that it was never read in the first place.

          Anyway, according to his son, Whittaker “Gas” Chambers went grovelling back to Rand after writing it, so it’s a double helping of Fail.

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    • 34
      Anonymous says:

      Or ‘Lost’.

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      program get says:

      You now have Bioshock Infinite to go with that. Is anyone trying to tell us something?

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    • 212
      Dr Stantz says:

      Was going to mention the Bioshock likeness as soon as I saw this story if no one had done.

      Guido, would you kindly have a play of Bioshock with Peter and comment on it’s conclusion.

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  7. 7
    Observer says:

    Who’s up for . . .

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  8. 8
    Ac/Dc/Ac says:

    I give it about a week and then the libertarians will be at each others throats

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    MrAngry61 says:

    If the islands are moored off the San Franciscan coast and the first one is an office block, I suspect that the USA may come looking for them – for the taxing rights, if nothing else…

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  10. 10
    Uncle Bob says:

    I’m in….as long as you’ve got decent wi-fi.

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  11. 11
    Billy Blofeld says:

    To be honest I’d prefer to create a Socialist enclave – let’s call it Liverpool – and persuade all Labour voters they should move there and live a utopian Socialist life within it’s walls under the leadership of Bob Crow and John Prescott.

    Then the rest of us can get on with our lives without total arseholes ruining everything all the time………

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    • 49
      Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

      Let’s have a feminist one as well and we can ship people like Harriet Harman and Julie Bindel there and not have to listen to their incessant whining

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      BBC auditor says:

      Don’t forget the BBC and Guardian – very necessary evils

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  12. 12
    Fantasy Island says:

    There’s even a role for John Bercow:

    “Mr Rourke! The plane! The plane!”

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  13. 13
    They can't crush the human spirit says:

    Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!

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  14. 15
    Steve Miliband says:

    Day 762 in the Libertarian House. Sally Bercow is still annoyed at being suckered so well by Channel 5.

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  15. 19
    Gordon Brown says:

    tonight i will be touring the neighbourhood checking grit bin levels

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  16. 20
    Sir William Waad says:

    I wish them well, but I fear it will end up with ‘homo homini lupus’.

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  17. 21
    Anonymous says:

    For $1.25m they could buy Canvey Island.

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  18. 22
    goto100 says:

    Why do this when Somalia is waiting, arms open for them, and their private security teams?

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      gosub 500 says:

      The indigenous population could be easily manipulated by the Globalists into attacking your homestead. So better to surround yourself with sea rather than sand.

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    sockpuppet #4 says:

    I hope they havent forgotten to factor in the cost of the puncture repair kit.

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  20. 28
    Sir William Waad says:

    Five hundred captains and no crew?

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  21. 29
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Wouldnt it just become a floating tax haven?

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  22. 32
    Nerdy says:

    Bafta award winning game Bioshock was based on the same idea but an underwater city. The founder turns out to be a meglomaniac & basically everyone pretty much dies. A warning to you all !!

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  23. 33
    Ol' Blue Eyes says:

    Theoretically sounds lovely but in practice typhoons are no joke.

    Why not just buy an island off Greece and do it there?

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  24. 36
    Tuscan Tony says:

    Guido Island by Tight Fit: makes perfect sense.

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  25. 40
    He's Spartacus says:

    Milton Friedman’s grandson is a director of Seasteading. Not a lot of people know that.

    Vote Ron Paul.

    Regards,

    Tom

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    sockpuppet #4 says:

    Its crazy.

    I have all sorts of bright ideas, but as I get older, I spot the flaws in them more quickly and don’t bother. Sometimes the less outlandish ones I might tone down the plans and they sort of work.

    If they aren’t going to do anything like grow food, they don’t need an island. it could be a big boat, or something like an oil rig, or just “SEALAND”.

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  27. 45
    Hasn't this already been done? says:

    http://www.sealandgov.org/

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    unseen says:

    It’s been done before. The Republic of Minerva in the 70s. It was quickly invaded by Tonga. Libertarians not so much with the fighting.

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  29. 50
    Stinkfinger says:

    Will this place have to have the obligatory 10% of Starkeys?
    If so it had better have plenty of lifeboats.

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  30. 51
    Jess The Dog says:

    Where would they be? The Deep Ocean? Territorial waters are 12nm and exclusive economic zones are 200nm They would end up close enough to somewhere to be ‘claimed’.

    How would they obtain resources? Food? Water? Electricity?

    What would they do? Trade? With what?

    How would they survive? Medical skills and facilities? Blood stocks?

    What if someone fancied a bit of whatever they had? Like Somali pirates?

    Humans come together for a reason.

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  31. 53
    Cato Street Conspirator says:

    Yes, but who will do the work? ‘Libertarians’ are usually to be found among the parasitic section of society, including bankers and academics, and not among people whose labour actually produces something. So, who will do the productive work?

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    • 66
      21st Century Man says:

      The fucking robots.

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    • 131
      EC1 PhD says:

      Oi, fuck off

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    • 132
      AC1 says:

      2:15 CSC is more daft than the normal comment.

      You’re typing on the product of the collaboration between constructive credit and applied science.

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      • 176
        Cato Street Conspirator says:

        In your little dream world food, clothing, power just produces itself. In the real world, people have to work producing those things. They’re not something a 23 year old MBA can conjure up on a laptop.

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        • 194
          AC1 says:

          Not at all. I just think that your thinking is a little constrained by the if you can’t put a box around it it’s not wealth fallacy.

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          • Cato Street Conspirator says:

            We’re not talking about ‘wealth’, we’re talking about the real things that we need to survive. Money – which is what you mean by ‘wealth’ – is just a means of exchange. There have to be real goods to exchange – food, clothing and shelter.

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        • 215
          Asimo 2.0 says:

          I can do all those things.

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    • 220
      Tacitus says:

      Obviously they will open the floodgates on immigration?
      Oh sorry since there is no votes in it this may be a bit premature.

      I know we will advertise for Interns in the Guardian and pay them slave wages until they are approved.

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    • 249
      GC says:

      You’re confusing libertarians with New Labour supporters.

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  32. 57
    Gustav says:

    “Whose up for Guido Island?”

    It’s “who’s”, Guido.

    -1

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  33. 60
    Gordon Brown says:

    I like floaters

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  34. 64
    Moussa Koussa says:

    I thought we was bombing Libertaria to get rid off Gadarfi?

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  35. 67
    Engineer says:

    Thank God for that – it’s silly season at last. No more riots and phone-hacking for at least the next ten minutes.

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    • 70
      Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

      just dont turn the BBC news channel on then :-)

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      • 107
        Markapaca says:

        I just mentioned to Polly Toynbee that I might have prof that News International phone hacking caused people to riot, and that it was Rupert’s insistence that tuition fees go up or he wouldn’t support the Tories and she just came.
        Came right there in the office. Gushing like Niagara. She’s still flowing now, 10 minutes later.

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  36. 71
    Shelley Wordsworth says:

    Ode to a McDoomed voyage.

    I’ve seen the film and have to say it feels just like Titanic
    The captain’s throwing phones again and swearing something manic.
    Gordon’s at the helm, you see, and aiming for the floe,
    Bad Al’s shouting “starboard, dickhead, that’s the way to go”.
    Red Ed squeaks up “no, further left”, but looks a little green
    And Mandy says “we’re up shit creek” and sings God Save The Queen.

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  37. 75
    Jess The Dog says:

    The Principality of Sealand is a tolerated entity now located within British territorial waters, although claiming ‘grandfather rights’. After the 2006 fire, the RAF Search and Rescue service took one injured person to Ipswich Hospital, and I bet the British taxpayer picked up the cost.

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  38. 82
    Jimmy says:

    He wants to round up the “libertarians” and send them out to sea on a raft?

    What’s the catch?

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    • 87
      Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

      The reduction in Tax revenues from the country they come from.

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      • 162
        Jimmy says:

        Yes we’ll miss all the Ponzi scheme operators who, let’s face it, will be the ones signing up for this.

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    • 144
      smoggie says:

      Yes, sounds like Douglas Adams’ ‘B’ Ark.

      “Yes, so anyway,” he resumed, “the idea was that into the first ship, the ‘A’ ship, would go all the brilliant leaders, the scientists, the great artists, you know, all the achievers; and into the third, or ‘C’ ship, would go all the people who did the actual work, who made things and did things, and then into the `B’ ship – that’s us – would go everyone else, the middlemen you see.”

      He smiled happily at them.

      “And we were sent off first,” he concluded, and hummed a little bathing tune.

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      • 169
        Jimmy says:

        Picture if you will a brave new world where a man can go out and never have to worry about being cornered by some crashing bore droning on about how the Fountainhead changed his life.

        You may say I’m a dreeeaaamer….

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        • 192
          AC1 says:

          That’s called the BBC.

          Although you’ll have to watch your back in the toilets, and listen to a crashing bore droning on about how the Das Kapital* changed his life

          *Should also be marked as fiction.

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        • 196
          John Lennon imagining no possessions for the little people says:

          Would I be allowed to keep my white Roller ?

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  39. 83
    Gordon Brown says:

    i am cuurently training for the olympic javelin competition

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Just think, we wont hear politicons talking about TAX CREDITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Thats sold me!

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  41. 91
    Reimer says:

    “The floating sovereign nations that Thiel imagines would be built on oil-rig-like platforms anchored in areas free of regulation, laws, and moral conventions.”

    Sounds like ‘Lord of the Flies’ with touch-screens. Hope Ian Angell gets involved.

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  42. 92
    LesAbbey says:

    I guess Howard Hughes has already proved that fortune and craziness are not mutually exclusive.

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  43. 94

    Its a terrible idea.

    But just in case its a success … I call President!

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  44. 98
    Disco Biscuit says:

    Where can I get my one-way ticket?

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    • 120
      Rt Hoon Tom Whatson MP Author PEN says:

      Send me £5000 and I will have a word with my mate Guido to let you onto the Isle of Man.

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  45. 109
    Anonymous says:

    David Icke will be organising the volleyball

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  46. 112
    Broon's Riots says:

    The same authoritarian paypal that freezes accounts whenever big brothers asks it too, eg Julian Assange et al

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  47. 117
    Rt Hoon Tom Whatson MP Author PEN says:

    Bung me $1.25 million and you can have the Isle of Man .

    You won’t get a better offer than that.

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  48. 122
    Hernia says:

    Ed Miliband’s face really reminds me of my hernia. Can he push it back in to improve the look?

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  49. 126
    Stinkfinger says:

    Peter Thiel:
    ‘And all the energy produced tapping away on computer keyboard’s can be converted into electricity to power the keyboards.The only waste produced being the time spent doing it’

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  50. 135
    Displaced Brummie says:

    Well, Guido, it worked for Sealand and the REM Island off the Dutch coast in the 1960s (a new build artificial island) so with modern techniques, there’s no reason why it wouldn’t work, today. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REM_Island

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  51. 141
    smoggie says:

    It’s already been tried on land. Stalin called them Gulags.

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  52. 142
    Charles says:

    Google is looking to literally offshore it’s data centres. Perhaps deals could be struck between large corporations, wealthy businessmen looking for new tax havens and common libertarians who would like to live and work in such places.

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    • 164
      Engineer says:

      If that came to pass, would not the Libertarians become Librarians?

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    • 183
      annette curton says:

      Can’t be long before somebody sets up the British Library of tweets, e-mails and huge quantities of shredded A4 that will need to be painstakingly pieced together (I thought of it first if are there are any Government grants going).

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  53. 145
    The Piss Soaked Tramp Formally Known As TAT! says:

    It is possible i’m buying one of the patents to technology that will help make it happen. Those of you who know of my infamous track winning record on bets on this blog will know TaT always backs a winner.

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  54. 146
    Captain Pugwash says:

    Blistering barnacles! Dithering dogfish! Lolloping libertarians!

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  55. 158

    Won’t work without a boat load of Mexicans in tow, or who would clean the shitters.

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  56. 163
    Gordon Brown says:

    Nursie says the toilets probably won’t be at all comfortable.

    I don’t care aboot that; I like the ideas of my magic jobbies going all floaty around That Really Big Ship Full Of Rich People:

    Plop! Plop! Plop! Intae the water, an a’ the magic rubbing off- the mighty shit on the Mighty Ship! (Rictus grin).

    I might go to give them a lecture on How To Do Things Properly.

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  57. 170
    Jabba the Cat says:

    Meanwhile back in the real world?

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  58. 180
    The death Police says:

    Man Killed by Plod Taser

    http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16051528

    It had to happen, as the Plod become ever more trigger happy with their Taser guns. Rather than a weapon of last resort it is now becoming the weapon of first resort when things become a tad difficult for them.

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  59. 185
    Officer Barbrady says:

    Yes, at first I was happy to be learning how to read. It seemed exciting and magical, but then I read this: Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand. I read every last word of this garbage, and because of this piece of shit, I am never reading again.

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    • 210
      Disgusted of Antarctica says:

      Isn’t it great you finally learnt how to read, Barbrady?

      – The Chicken-Lover

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  60. 187
    Anonymous says:

    People actually finish Atlas Shrugged?

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  61. 190
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    I could be the Island whore.

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  62. 195
    Dave Griffiths says:

    Excellent idea, don’t worry, we won’t stand in your way.

    Don’t let the door hit your bum on the way out!

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  63. 197
    Breaking News ! says:

    CPS request that Essex police make further enquiries into allegations surrounding Chris Huhne. This is what is known in legal circles as kicking the mattwr into the long grass.

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  64. 224
    Handycock, Ocean Going Shagger says:

    Will I be able to bring any young girls?

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  65. 225
    Anonymous says:

    errr…. why not try Hong Kong.

    Maximum 15% income tax rate. No tax on interest, dividends, capital gains, inheritance. No sales tax.

    Very safe, violent crime 1/10th the level of the UK. Did I mention the low tax rate?

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  66. 226
    Anonymous says:

    I hope he takes Paypal with him, the Hunt.

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  67. 227
    Andy Marr is a jug eared cunt says:

    Can I pay to have hookers shove dildos up my bum? What are your polygamy laws like?

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  68. 228

    Kinda pathetic Peter Thiel got beat at his own game by Chase Coleman. The lightbulb over his head must have been on a timer

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  69. 229
    Cameron Is A Cunt says:

    If I can afford it, I will certainly move to a seasteading libertarian “island”, probably not yours though Guido.

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  70. 245
    Boadicea's main man says:

    Atlas Shrugged is a tedious piece of badly written shite.

    And it’s a novel.

    If you want somewhere decent to live, make England a decent place to live.

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  71. 253
    Foreigntory says:

    Ayn Rand = complete fraud and ideas recycler and sadist. Tory love for her is tragic and revolting given her obsession with sick killer Edward Hickman. I love the Marquis de Sade for his monetary policy.

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  72. 254
    Anonymous says:

    This is the B Ark, presumably.

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Lord Glasman tells it like it is:

“The first thing is to acknowledge that Labour has been captured by a kind of aggressive public sector morality which is concerned with the individual and the collective but doesn’t understand relationships.”



Owen Jones says:

We also need Zil lanes.


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