August 10th, 2011

Downing Street’s iSpAd BlackBerry Security Flaw

BlackBerry is in the news as the “weaponised” encrypted communications system of choice for politicised riot organisers, there is talk that the police and MI5 have called in GCHQ boffins to crack the encrytion on the BlackBerry RIM data network.  On the other side over in Downing Street they also use BlackBerrys. After the last government was blighted by missing laptops, data and even honey trapped phones, Downing Street think they have come up with a solution to protect the BlackBerrys of top aides.

Everyone has to carry around not only their government communications network issued BlackBerry phone, but a BlackBerry Smart Card Reader too, with another SIM card in it. If the two are separated by more than ten metres or so, the Blackberry stops working. So if a pickpocket stole the BlackBerry, it would be useless. Carrying two units in your pockets is of course a little cumbersome and inconvenient. Unfortunately from a security point of view, the wonks and spinners have taken to just sello-taping the two of them back to back…


440 Comments

  1. 1

    Intelligence – aint it great?

    • 30
      dave cast iron cameron says:

      i have two spads for this very problem.

      • 36
        SpAd says:

        I also write my PIN number on each credit card using black marker pen.

        • 79
          Leighton Rees says:

          Wow! If you can write numbers you must be very clever.

          • in-bred bedwetter psychopath with a lisp says:

            Guido, you’re my gay icon, can I suck you off?

            Guido’s bedwetters wank themselves into a frenzy of impotent rage over butch men teaching scary gangsters – 12yr old/6 st. boys – a lesson they won’t forget.

            Still, compared to the brave Royal Air Force war criminals dropping bombs from 3 miles up on women and children or strafing them with Apache cannon fire these afterbirth Filth are positively angels.

          • in-bred bedwetter psychopath with a lisp says:

          • Chortle says:

            Alexis Bailey walks into lamppost after appearing in court

          • Osama the Nazarene says:

            Brilliant Manx coppers bringing a bit of law and order and justice to the arsonist, looting scum. We want a lot more of this.

          • Tough Love says:

            That’s the way to do it. Far more effective than giving them a hug.

            Well done those Coppers. And if any court dares to prosecute them, then an ordinary citizen’s riot is called for.

          • Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

            The behaviour of the police in Manchester was terible – what about the wrights of the protestors to cycle unipeded at night

          • bi - psycho says:

            I bet you’re in the saddle having a good work out most nights, aren’t you Billy?

          • Osama the Nazarene says:

            Proteters have rights. These people are arsonists, looters and greedy criminal scum. They deserve all they got and a lot more.

            Banged up on the Ark Royal for a few years.

          • Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

            I don’t like the roiters any more than you but who are we to take away there rights. If you dont like it full refund etc.

      • 44
        Anonymous says:

        Looks like the riots has finally ended.

        • 53
          misterned says:

          Cos it’s raining. But the people of the UK have not forgotten.

          The petition to stop the benefits of anyone convicted of rioting has crashed the epetitions site. The response has been overwhelming.

          If it comes back up soon, be sure to sign it!

          http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/7337

          • Sorry...but something has gone wrong !(You're not kidding Mr Cameron says:

            When Steve dreamt up this “Blue Sky” idea cycling in to work and then convinced “Dave” it would connect him to the people they didn’t expect people to actually put up petitions about subjects that they,the government,does not approve of and then have the audacity to crash the server by voting in their thousands for ithem

          • Ah! Monika says:

            Clouds doing what Water Cannon would have achieved.

            Water cannon would also be on hand to douse fires before they took hold.

            Yes… I know you havn’t much water down south but there’s plenty of sewage could be reused to good effect.

          • The DWP is staffed by Marxist scum says:

            Unfortunately, benefits are absolutely 100% guaranteed for life to chavs. I overheard a heavily-pierced chav a few weeks ago, by the local Jobcentre, telling someone on the phone that he’d been “grassed up” for working whilst claiming benefits. A claimant has to sign a statement every two weeks, stating that they haven’t worked. He’d been caught committing fraud. From his conversation, it was clear his benefits had been reduced. Not stopped. No police. No prosecution. Just a reduction in benefit, from that week on.

          • misterned says:

            That petition site has been down much of the evening. Although I have managed to access it twice in the last 3 hours just to see how the numbers are growing.

            I noticed that the numbers of signatures have not changed in all that time, in spite of massive demand for that page…

            The number is stuck at 79519.

            What the fuck is going on?

          • AC1 says:

            @MrNed

            Cacheing/DB Cluster merging probably being delayed. Better to process requests than keep the stats upto date.

          • Splooge says:

            Still down at 21:45

            You can imagine how many people have simply given up by now

          • More Tea Vicar? says:

            Still dow at 23:15

      • 46
        anonymous says:

        i suppose WE pay for all this paraphinalia too

    • 47
      Ampers says:

      That’s just it – politicians don’t have any.

    • 76
      Ah! Monika says:

      Idea. Take Digital cameras off Traffic Wardens and give them to the cops so that they can take a before and after shot of thugs wearing face coverings. Build up nice rogues gallery.
      Yes I know we would have probs if they all started to wear burk ahs….. ( see where I’m going?)

      • 111
        Tessa Tickles says:

        Instead of giving cameras to the police, how about.. sack all the police, because they’re totally and utterly useless happy-clappy PC muppets and instead put armed troops on the streets who take shots at (not ‘of’) the thugs wearing face coverings?

        Instead of the courts working “through the night” to clear the backlog, we’d just have a truck full of corpses, which could be dumped in a pit somewhere.

    • 86
      Cunt Face says:

      ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Thought this was silly season not boring season

    • 113
      Sir William Waad says:

      It can still be defeated by using codes rather than cyphers. E.g. “Plan BC” = meet outside T-Mobile.

    • 118
      Ah! Monika says:

      Yesbutnobutyesbut, the phones would eventually become inactive when separated for sale in the pub

    • 135
      MrAngry61 says:

      Every safety/security benefit is inevitably transformed into a performance benefit (to the user)

      ie – better brakes/seat belts/airbags= drive faster
      writing PINs down (on the cards!)
      spare door key under the door mat etc
      taping separate security devices together because users are too lazy/forgetful/incompetent to pick up both in the morning

  2. 2
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    OHHHH serious stuff :-)

  3. 3
    Anonymous says:

    woteva

  4. 4
    Popeye says:

    Pure genius, why should we expect different?

    • 107
      Stop calling me Shirley says:

      Shirley it’s just poor instruction?

      We were originally told to “wear your security badge at all times”.

      This had to be changed to “wear your security badge at all times when in the office” as people were walking round with them on in Asda at lunchtime.

      This had to be changed to “wear your security badge visibly at all times when in the office” as some people were “wearing” them like you might wear a vest (or as one wag put it, “his wife’s underwear”).

      This then had to be changed to “wear your security badge visibly between the waist and neck at all times when in the office” as some people were just clipping them to their pockets or belts or handbags.

      Well, I suppose our wonderful security “experts” got it right in the end.

      • 142
        MrAngry61 says:

        A work colleague was ex RAF security type – apparently all airmen on her base used to wear their neck ID passes either behind their ties, back to front or both. Nobody ever noticed either…

  5. 5

    Ah, so thats what was meant by “joined-up government”

  6. 6
    Anonymous says:

    nah

  7. 7
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    “Unfortunately from a security point of view, the wonks and spinners have taken to just sello-taping the two of them back to back…”

    So our brightest and best policy wonks have no concept of sercurity?

    • 17
      nell says:

      “brightest and best..” ?!

      Don’t we wish!!

    • 59
      misterned says:

      This is like the managers who wanted people to be able to work from home so bought a load of laptops for their staff to use instead of desktop PCs. However the same managers were worried about thefts, so had them padlocked to the desks and did not give the staff any keys. Then they wondered why staff did not work from home.

    • 290
      Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

      I thought I better provide that explanation in case anybody did not understand Guido’s original post

  8. 9
    Chris says:

    Then fire the stupid, useless b******s. Just fire them.

  9. 11
    Stinkfinger says:

    Yah blud I get a twofer Berry deal when me rob a Spad..sweet.
    Respec for the head up G.

  10. 12
    Observer says:

    The phone is a BlackBerry (capital “B” in the middle) and the plural is BlackBerrys. It is not the fruit.

    • 21

      It is a Crackberry in popular parlance.

      • 87
        Mike Hunt says:

        CrapBerry more like, work issued me with one and it was a total heap of shite.

        • 123
          Tessa Tickles says:

          Thank you for your quick review – you may have saved me £160. What with all the free advertising coverage they’ve been getting this week, I was looking at one in a shop window yesterday – it’s got GPS and wifi (not the window, the BlackBerry). All the online reviews start “I’ve had this for a few hours and it’s great”. No long-term reviews.

          The keys look a bit small.

    • 32
      Sir William Waad says:

      That’s just stupid branding crap.

      • 41

        “… the fault of the Capitalist System”, yet again! What happened to that nice Gordon fellow who smiled a lot?

      • 56
        sockpuppet #4 says:

        Stupid branding crap is not a cornerstone of capitalism, etc.etc.etc.

        • 238
          Grumpy Old Man says:

          The cornerstone of Capitalism are those small shopkeepers who have been wiped out by looters. They. poured everything into building a business and a future for themselves and their families, and get turned over by 8-31 -y-o’s for kicks.

      • 99
        Observer says:

        No, Sir William, it’s the proper name, as is Berry as a surname.

      • 224
        Grovelling Peasant says:

        Branding as in Russell?

    • 42
      Intellectual Hoodie says:

      Whatever. It’s just another example of the rampant racism inherent in the flawed western manufacture/consume/discard/manufacture model, innit?
      Black forest gateau is another.

    • 51
      wiggins says:

      Arrite……keep it well hidden blud..nowaimin?

    • 82
      take a bow says:

      Thanks for clearing that up. It would have been confusing otherwise.

  11. 14
    nell says:

    hmmm Is this because they are absentminded and afraid of mislaying things?

    Are they also taping the number of their phone to the back of the mobile because they can’t remember that either?

    • 18

      … and their credit card numbers and security codes?

    • 417
      jgm2 says:

      For my sins – because I still treat a mobile phone as an emergency only device – so that my missus cannot call me wherever and whenever she needs to know what 3.5% of 170,000 quid is – then I too have not the slightest idea what my mobile phone number is. It’s taped to the back of my phone. When I remember to charge it. When I remember to turn it on. When I remember to take it when I leave the house. My mobile answerphone message is ‘Don’t leave a message – I never listen to them’.

      Also, I have only a feint idea of my ca-r’s registration number. If I really and I do mean, really, have to stop to think about it I can just about remember despite having owned the fucking thing for the last five or six years. Because, do you know what? It’s just a fucking ca-r. A glorified horse and ca-rt. A means to get from ‘A’ to ‘B’. Knowing the registration number number by heart is no more a badge of honour than knowing your credit card number or your frequent flier number or your NI number off by heart.

      It’s just a fucking ca-r.

  12. 16
    double-o three an a half says:

    Q will be turning in his grave.

  13. 19
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    “encrypted communications system of choice for politicised riot organisers,”

    Er Guido, How were the actual riots politicised? The aftermath yes , but the actual riots was just random organised violence not politicised (Unless i missed something).

    Unless you or someone has evidence that was orgonised by UKunHunt or some other looney left hypocritcal group?

    • 62

      Fringe groups got involved and lefties fantasise about the revolution.

      • 67
        Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

        Ok fair play Guido, Thanks for the reply :-)

      • 95
        misterned says:

        I had a bit of an online row with an old leftie friend of mine earlier who was convinced that this is the beginning of a “popular uprising” against the fascist banking classes.

        Er, no it’s just fuckwit kids who would not recognise the Prime Minister if he was introduced to them, nicking things and setting fire to things, because of labour’s failed social experiment allowing a large and lawless section of society to become effectively immune from state sanction for their lawlessness.

        It’s NOT a popular revolution by any stretch of the imagination.

        • 148
          MrAngry61 says:

          Tell that to Darkus!

          He thinks that it’s our version of the Arab Spring…

          • Egghead says:

            I haven’t seen too many Syrians looting their local Phones4U.

          • misterned says:

            Darcus’ comments were vile and disgusting and deeply offensive to those who have tirelessly worked to create social and community cohesion in and around Brixton since the 1980s. Darcus claimed that nothing has changed and the police are just as racist as they were back then.

            Utter vile offensive bigoted bullshit.

            And the BBC issued an apology to him this evening for daring to suggest he had taken part in those riots!

          • Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

            The only way you can get things into Darcus’ head is with a cattle prod and even then it will take several zaps for it to take hold.

          • Nina Temple says:

            Poor old Darkus drunk again or maybe a little dazed from another ‘domestic’. He never was a reliable Comrade

    • 146
      Rioting Scum says:

      Actually I decided to loot that camera shop and throw rocks at the police because the right-wing conservatives like David Cameron want to take away my chance to study the classics and the history of the renaissance at Cambridge.

      When I’m not getting a local ho preggers or doing some illegal drugs I like nothing more than to read Polly Toynbee’s latest diatribe against the evil capitalists who have second homes in Europe.

      • 153
        MrAngry61 says:

        Wasn’t “Waterstones” the only shop left unlooted/untorched on Clapham High St?

        Presumably because the youf, never having entered a bookshop didn’t either covet the contents or appreciate how well that they’d burn…

      • 227
        Handycock (Teen Fondler) says:

        Well said young man. It is tragic that your opportunity to study at Cambridge has been taken away from you. Have you considered studying in Russia? I can help you there. Do you have a young sister who might like to study there too?

  14. 23
    I don't need no doctor says:

    Harriet Harman is not a fit and proper person. She is a hypocrite and liar.
    First rate then to be a member of the labour party.

    • 31
      Harriet Harman says:

      ‘When Ed Milliband toured the streets he was warmly welcomed by the people,I saw palm leaves strewn across his path,even a donkey’

      • 35
        Pontius Pilate says:

        You should read up on your “Bible” Harriet…I think after “Palm Sunday” came “The Crucifixtion”……..

      • 74
        Mad HattyHaPerson also says:

        yeah – and I’ve got nice tits too – wanna see ‘em round the back?

        • 124
          gentlemen ..select your weapon says:

          they must be long and very saggy if you can get ‘em round there you mealy mouthed lying hypocrite

          • John Bellingham says:

            Harriet Harman is older than me and I just received a letter inviting me to claim my winter fuel allowance. So you should go to specsavers.

          • Michael Gove says:

            Jack Dromey should be arrested for having an offensive person on his weapon.

        • 438
          Anonymous says:

          They’re so big they stretch round the back or do you just take them off. I prefer to see them on the front.

    • 52
      anonymous says:

      this party politicking shit is really boring

      all MPs are c-u//nts irrespective of party

  15. 24
    Chis Underpants says:

    Did someome mention rimming?

    • 182
      Old Tory Bigot says:

      I think he needs to be reminded of that incident more frequently now that he has become a self-appointed moral arbiter.

  16. 25
    notareargunner says:

    Cello-tape the thieving MP back to back with their master in the Bank

  17. 26
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Ps Can i just disagree with what Micheal Gove said.

    It was not Labours fault, First and foremost it is the parents fault.

    • 55
      Scots demand that riots renamed ENGLISH riots not UK riots says:

      True…but you have to ask yourself whose policies encouraged the feckless irresponsible paranting in the first place ???

      • 60
        Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

        Oh yeah , I know that , But blaming a party when it should be the parents held to account for thier brats running round burning half of London.

        But i do agree the “Its not thier fault” policy has been exploted a lot under labour.

        • 81
          Scots demand that riots renamed ENGLISH riots not UK riots says:

          Of course it’s the parents fault but there are perhaps three generations of failed parenting stretching back to the 70′s where there is no stability or male role model in the family .The philosophy promulgated by the trendy lefty educationalists/social workers/politicians was that nobody can be a loser or winner and everything must be dumb down in education to the lowest common denominator and no-one’s behaviour in school or society must be challenegd.How many cases can you cite over the years where a public spirited citizen has intervened in anti-social behaviour by young kids only to find when the police are summoned that THEY are arrested etc etc and the kids let off to go off laughing at the police and society.We’re all merely reaping the whirwind of that philosophy.

          Everyone now has rights, Billy, but no responsibilty and Blair’s policies and more particular Harman’s attitudes to family(i.e there is no shame in being a single mother with several kids by different fathers)and nothing is your fault blame your background hasn’t really helped…and made what was already a bad situation in 1997 under successive governments both Tory and Labour so much worse

          • Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

            “The goverment is the problem , not the solution”

          • not a machine says:

            bit premature ,they are still laughing at what labour left for us and havent had the same foreign crime gangs shake there home made ones .

          • sockpuppet #4 says:

            There cannot be a school where no one gets challenged for bad behaviour.

            So I guess you’ve just made all the rest of that stuff up too.

          • Scots demand that riots renamed ENGLISH riots not UK riots says:

            @sockpuppet #4

            You think ? .Just cos’ they have a nice glossy brochure/mission statement in their prospectus or on the notice board in the reception don’t mean it happens in practice..still you believe what you like if it makes you feel happy…

          • Sporran bollocks says:

            I think you’ll find the correct adjective is SCOTCH

          • sockpuppet #4 says:

            No mrlongname. Nothing to do with brochures. Its a basic fact.
            Without discipline in schools nothing works at all. really nothing. The worst hellhole schools in britain do have some lessons that don’t result in riots every day.

            Where do you get the idea that theres not been anyone’s behaviour challenged since the 70s in any state school. I just see a stream of stupid assertions. ie you are making up shite.

            Another one. Tell me. one single news story where someone has been arrested for telling off kids?

      • 158
        MrAngry61 says:

        English riots SO FAR – wait until the scotch scum realise that 250 ScotsRozzers have been sent south of the border…

      • 254
        Anon. says:

        Only the BBC, of course, are calling them the ‘English Riots’. Because they love every country on earth except the one where they live.

    • 105
      Ah! Monika says:

      The parents were ferrying the kids to and from the battleground

  18. 27
    Mornington Crescent says:

    The Beeb are just reporting this:

    “1651: The BBC understands Deputy Labour Leader Harriet Harman and other Labour MPs including Meg Hillier, Stephen Timms, Chuka Umunna and Diane Abbott have been granted a meeting with Home Office Minister James Brokenshire at 1630 BST to demand a rethink on police cuts in London.”

    What the FUCK is the Gov doing wasting their time with these prancing Huhnes? Brokenshire should have met them at the front door, shoved a broom in their fat thieving hands and told them to fuck off and do something constructive.

    FFFFS.

    • 54
      Gonk says:

      Harman couldn’t stop her tribal belief system
      working overtime even if she was going over
      Niagara falls in a barrel.
      You always know where you are with Harman,
      she’d always betray you and let you down.

      • 323
        labourunionsbbc we are one says:

        What is it that drives this vile creature on the attack all the time, often from a completely partisan and pointless position, would it have anything to do with guilt because of her privileged background.

    • 156
      Ivan Agenda says:

      They are going to plead it that it was not their fault and if the government states that it was then we the Labour Party and the BBC and the Guardian will say it is ALL about CUTS.
      Possibly the last word is a reference to themselves and has a letter missing.

    • 188
      Old Tory Bigot says:

      Could someone kindly ring Broadcasting House and inform the BBC brass hats that these individuals are no longer government ministers and haven’t been for sometime now?

      Almost every politico shoved in front of a BBC microphone seems to be Labour and treated as though they were still the government.

    • 248
      Grumpy Old Man says:

      I’m pretty certain that Labour had instituted cuts to the Police in the dying days of the Brown interregnum. Hug-a-Hoody did make things worse tho’, it’s what muscular Liberals do best.

  19. 28

    Who can forget Hatties laptop exploits?

    Login: Harriett
    Password: Harman

    {plays windows theme}

    You are now logged in as Harriett.
    What would you like to do next?
    Enable weapons systems?

    Enter 12 digit Polaris missile code..

    1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12.

    [whir..whir..beep-beep..]

    Thankyou…Code accepted… preparing launch…

  20. 33
    Ed Milibandontherun says:

    I am as relevant as a bidet on a pirate ship.

  21. 37
    Anonymous says:

    Dave says looters will feel the full force of the law.

    The reality – looter pleads guilty today and sentenced to 1 day in prison, let out for time served.

    Full force of the law in Dave’s Britain = gently pummeled by a hummingbird’s fart.

    • 50
      Scots demand that riots renamed ENGLISH riots not UK riots says:

      Fair dos..he is a primary school teaching assistant…he has to prepare the lesson plan on “Civic Responsibility” for Year 9 followed up by Homework…” Cashless Shopping in the local High Street”

      • 234
        Drop a daisy cutter on the BBC says:

        Yes and the English demand that you jocks take all the foreign scum who have moved here thanks to Scottish Nu Liebore’s immigration policy for the last 13 years.

    • 298
      Anonymous says:

      C4 News, a young man who was arrested, charged with handling stolen property, fined £100.00, then excused the fine as he had been detained for over 21 hours, they didn’t say if he’d been allowed to keep the property

      • 329
        Crusty Squawk says:

        Sounds OK to me … and also on NewsNight we have Mzzzzz. HaPerson who will discuss the savage Tory cuts and viscious sentencing of innocent protestors found carrying armfuls of clothing out of …

    • 384
      Redberry says:

      Talking of Dave’s ‘Big Society’, it must have warmed the cockles of his heart to see solid citizens turning out in Enfield and Eltham to secure their patches against bands of marauding scum. Just wondering why the rozzers at last put in an in-overwhelming-strength appearance in those parts to break up this show of new-found popular solidarity? Funnily enough, they seem to have adopted a much more softly-softly approach to a posse of heavily-armed Sikhs doing a bit of their own civic duty – and good on them for that – down in Southall.

  22. 38
    dave cast iron cameron says:

    be back later chaps just going on another holiday that was one stressful morning. Toodle pip, simples, methinks!

  23. 43
    Drop a daisy cutter on the BBC says:

    The BBM service was cracked years ago by the yanks, they don’t want to let the UK Gov know though as they like to eaves drop on what our politicians are up to.

    The last thing they will do it tip off terrorists and others that they are able to read your messages.

    • 166
      MrAngry61 says:

      Same reason as the Brits gave away Enigma machines to foreign diplomatic services after WWII…

      • 232
        Drop a daisy cutter on the BBC says:

        Exactly, that’s why Obama wasn’t allowed a normal Blackberry he was given a specially modified one, the yanks know if they’ve cracked BBM so have others.

        You’re spot on about Enigma as well, it was one reason the Government insisted people who worked there kept quiet about it for years after, those enigma machines were in use for years afterwards!!

        Anyone who thinks BBM is secure is a knob.

        • 310
          AC1 says:

          I’m sure the Govt just “phone up” BB and ask for a list of messages, locations & timestamps and their contact list for a bunch of people.

  24. 48
    Sir William Waad says:

    A pirate is explaining how he came to have a wooden leg, a hook for a hand, and an eyepatch.

    The leg, now – I lost that to a great white shark. But I beat the crittur to death with my bare hands!

    The hand, now – I lost that to a ravening lion. But I beat the crittur to death with my other hand!

    The eye, now – I lost that to a seagull.

    “A seagull?”

    Pooed in me eye, it did. ‘Twas the first day with the hook!

  25. 58
    Anonymous says:

    how come the tory party is again making a buzz of the notion of family when families across the country are finding it hard to make ends meet?

    petrol costs limit some from meeting up/ child care fees make it difficult to have spare money etc etc

    this coming from a useless bunch of millionaires who don’t need for anything

    tired and boring and thoroughly meaningless because they are the last people to do anything about anything

    • 64
      Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

      If you cant afford to have children then dont have them!

      why should the state pay for your childcare?

    • 69
      misterned says:

      Because labour failed families up and down the land? Labour hated and undermined the nuclear family at every turn, now we are reaping the whirlwind consequences of labour’s catastrophic social experiment.

    • 72
      Al Gore 'The Orrible truth' says:

      Fair comment anon.
      The Tory party is shit and has been for decades don’t let Labour’s even more shittness blind you to how indeed shit the Conservatives now are.

    • 97

      Even now, with cities on fire and the chavs ripping society apart. With vigilantes on the streets to protect them from Labour’s imported clients, even now, Anonymous, you can’t admit socialist ideology has failed.

      What was it this time Anon?

      Not enough cash spent, despite spending twice the countries entire GDP?
      Not enough time to implement, despite 13 years having passed?
      Not enough manpower despite the public sector growing by 1/5?

      let me guess. Its either

      A} Tory cuts, not yet implemented, have undermined 13 years of Labour’s paradise.
      B} A Labour government, even with a 100+ seat majority, was forced to curb ambitious plans by evil Tory party voting against.
      C} Gordon failed to tax the rich,business, retail, service industries and savings enough, so making the entire project fail.
      or
      D} Valuable lessons have been learned and NEXT TIME, we really,really,really, won’t Fu#k it all up! No really..we’re getting the hang of it now..we are..Ed knows that if the line on the graph goes down, then that’s bad.
      And Balls has finally grasped that if you spend £10 when you’ve only got £6, you don’t get £4 change. .. See ..we get it!..so NEXT TIME..its going to be a great success…really..next time..just you see…

      • 130
        gentlemen ..select your weapon says:

        well said bill thats quangoed him

      • 253
        Grumpy Old Man says:

        Sorry Sir Bill. Wonderful rant but the last point is pure fantasy . That Leopard won’t ever change his shorts.

      • 284
        misterned says:

        Absolutely spot on Bill. There is nowhere for the left to turn to for excuses for their own failure anymore.

        Labour have lost it big time, we decent labour hating people need to go on the offensive on every blog and newspaper and “rub their noses” in their social experiment failure.

        13 years of labour’s catastrophic liberal social experiment left London in flames.

    • 368
      Alex says:

      How come useless impotent leeches like you think it’s the responsibility of the state to look after you?

  26. 61
    Snotsicle says:

    In the real, commercial world, deliberately circumventing your employer’s data security policies results in summary dismissal.

  27. 66
    Axe The Telly Tax says:

    The rot in Britain is too deep for politicians to deal with (even if they weren’t anti-British, thieving scum).

    Only a right-wing military coup by the generals can save Britain now.

    1. Martial law declared to bring order to our streets
    2. Death penalty brought back for murder and treason
    3. Trial and execution of all the treasonous anti-british MPs/journalists
    4. Deportation of all immigrants and their offspring who have come here since 1948.
    5. All EU law to be made null and void immediately.
    6. Corporal punishment for all state schools.
    7. National Service restored.
    8. A natiionalist government installed.

    Britain needs another Cromwell before it’s too late!

  28. 68
    You can never outwit a fool says:

    - they’re just too clever

  29. 70
    Pierce Morgan (where it hurts) says:

    I have never and will never tell someone how to hack a Blackberry

  30. 73
    Gordon Brown says:

    It was thirty-eight years ago, to the hour, that I was last thin enough to gobble myself off.

    • 93
      Leighton Rees says:

      Ten years after you had to quit self-felching

    • 199
      Old Tory Bigot says:

      Really. Was there any need for that?

      Sir William’s pirate joke had put me in a jocular frame of mind then you come along and ruin it.

  31. 78
    Sarah Twat the Twitty Tweeter says:

    I’ve got this strange bit apparatus I don’t know what to do with – it sort of ‘goes off’ every so often and whirrs.

  32. 80
    Rat's arse says:

    What really, really,really pisses me of is the sight of these all knowing, never wrong Lieber tw@ts. They have all the answers now don’t they, after thirteen shitty years running this country into the ground.
    I’ve said it before; I honestly think these Lieiber scum balls have something to do with all this rioting ( I know I can’t prove it) but I’ve just got this niggling feeling. They are so outraged that they were booted out at the last election, and after seeing other dirty tactics used by Lieber, that feeling wont go away.

    • 96
      Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

      Hiya Rats :-)

      Guido says further up thread that fringe groups were invovled (Didnt know that hairdressers were so unhappy)

      • 112
        Rat's arse says:

        *claps* :)

        • 127
          Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

          Better get cream for it ;-)

          • Rat's arse says:

            OK ….* applause*
            Good news about Indian Cricketers Billy. :)

          • Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

            Not sure what you mean?

            that the number one ranked team in the world are actully quite rubbish (I thought the Aussies were poor but India take it to a new level) ?

          • Rat's arse says:

            Sorry Billy, I phrased it badly – meant to say good news they’re out!

          • Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

            No worries Rats, I have been really disappointed witht the Indians, I thought they would put up a better fight of it.

    • 100
      Anonymous says:

      In other words, If Labour can’t fuck the country one way, they will do it another.

    • 106
      Stinkfinger says:

      Labour might not have directly caused things to boil over but they certainly helped build the fucking pot.

    • 110
      Anne Drecks says:

      I’m no expert in human behaviour but after three weeks of reading about fucking phone-hacking I was ready to hit the streets.

  33. 83
    not a machine says:

    Why are so many IT devices named after fruits , apple ,apricot (defunct pc brand), blackberry , wonder why raspberry hasnt been used :)

    I am rather puzzled by the new online banking special key device , does it mean that trad on line banking isnt as ingenious as it used to be .

  34. 84
    Keep your distance says:

    The answer is obvious. As well as stopping them from working if they’re too far apart, they should also not work if they are too close together.

  35. 92
    Cameron is a Cunt says:

    cameron called this a hit-and-run

    what’s run of the mill about this?

    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23977208-i-tried-to-revive-my-son-my-hands-were-covered-in-blood.do

  36. 101
    labourunionsbbc we are one says:

    Now is a perfect moment for Cameron to get things done (Conservative things), with the public mood ready for firm action, and even the B-bbc wobbling, Rusty could reduce the benefits or (mass poncing) of recent arrivals, or shut down the diversity coordinator bollucks.

    • 139
      Stinkfinger says:

      An even better time to do something was when they were in power with a full majority for 18 years.
      Don’t keep your hopes up mate.The LibLabCons don’t give a fuck.

      • 163
        Axe The Telly Tax says:

        Correct. They are all in it together. Taking turns to destroy Britain.

        The treasonous scum.

        Right-wing military coup NOW!

    • 260
      Grumpy Old Man says:

      Cameron is not a Conservative, he is a Heathite clone.

  37. 101
    eeu to me says:

    Cameron has suddenly found he was right, we have a broken Britain is he still right in sending billions of taxpayers money to foreign lands instead of using it to fix broken Britain.

    • 269
      Undercarriage says:

      If we save millions of starving people they will undoubtedly return the favour by coming to Britain to repair the damage caused by the rioters for lower wages than our own tradesman. A grand bargain indeed.

  38. 103
    b34st says:

    Durex face is in control
    hahahha
    Just how did we end up with these fucking idiots in power?
    What we need at the moment is a Scottish sociopath
    Any suggestions?

  39. 117
    Cameron is a Cunt says:

    just what are all those brave policemen in riot geat for

    http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2011/08/10/brave-louise-sees-off-yobs/

    • 131
      P.C. Filth says:

      That’s the spirit, madam. Let them see the whites of your eyes, sir.
      “You are not having my shop,” said Mrs. Johnson, loudly.
      “I spoke to them in language they understood. They are animals and I addressed them like animals,” she added.
      Zulu, co-starring Michael Caine, is a fine example to us all in these troubled times, sir.
      Over.

  40. 122
    joescotus says:

    check out zimbabwe fraudster in today s mail, ive ruined 2 pair of pants pissing myself laughing

  41. 126
    • 129
      joescotus says:

      rioters =poor scum ex mps =rich scum

    • 168
      Ivan Agenda says:

      It is truly difficult to believe that so many MP’s took the money but certainly did not run very far.
      Labour MP’s show up as easily the most venal of all the MP’s, and as such prove a role model and an excuse for every one of the looting scum nationwide.
      It is also unbelieveable that Westminster and the Coalition Government refused to put these payments openly in the public domain, especially as we are paying for them.

    • 305
      misterned says:

      Most of the rioters do not appear bright enough to read, let alone comprehend what that article uncovers. I’ll bet most of them haven’t a clue who David Cameron even is.

  42. 137
    gentlemen ..select your weapon says:

    good to see the manchester cops weren’t holding back last night in tackling looters…we’ve been pussyfooting around with the ferral yobs in this country for too long….when the little scumbags realise its going to really hurt if they’re caught they might just think again.

    • 143
      Stinkfinger says:

      The new Police Batons are shit.Look at how rioters just get up and walk away.
      The old Truncheon would have flopped them cu*ts for good.

      • 149
        BillyBob.... says:

        Metal ones with a blow to the kneecap would incapacitate very nicely !!

      • 160
        Axe The Telly Tax says:

        Agreed. He should have crawled away, with 2 broken legs and arms, back to the hovel he and his feckless single mother live in.

        My father have caned/strapped my backside so hard i wouldn’t be able to sit down for a week. Same for my headmaster at school.

        Spare the rod spoil the child.

        All the liberal socialist feminist chickens are coming home to roost.

        Right-wing military coup now please!!!

    • 151
      BillyBob.... says:

      Cull the rioters !!

  43. 145
    I don't need no doctor says:

    Harman and Cooper – shut the fuck up, you are two thick, insincere, hypocritical, piles of shit. Go away, no one in this country wants you.

  44. 147
    BillyBob.... says:

    Well, bugger me rigid… seems that not all the revolting thieves and rioters were unemployed, or could not afford university fees/loans or missing a very nice wad of cash for EMA.

    Looks like Harriot harperson was wrong…. again !!

  45. 154
    witchdoctor says:

    We have a large section of society mostly young with no stake in it. They are derided as ‘chavs’. excluded from jobs even menial ones. Told by the wealthy they are useless yet fed on by the same wealthy (£145 a year demanded to pay rich BBC journalists). Derided by MPs as wasters while those same MPs dip their snouts in the trough and suport murder and torture overseas. Called criminals by police who sweep through areas assaulting and sometimes killing with impunity (is there ever going to be an inquest on Azzele Rodney).

    To get the pittance society allows them they have to ‘agree’ to hunt for non existant jobs that many of them are unskilled for anyway all the while being denigrated by job centre staff and sanctioned with loss of benefits for the slightest infringement.

    And this is now the second generation. Many of them will have parents who left school in the 1980s and faced identical problems that were never fully solved.

    Then we get rich bastards telling us that these people rioting burning and looting is unnacceptable yet not one of them asks why it happened. They say poverty is no excuse. It may not be an excuse but taken with other things it is a damned good reason for it happening. There is no single cause in my view but when a generation of young people are squeezed onto the bottom of this pile of shit we call British society then this sort of thing was inevitable. You cannot keep telling people they are surplus to requirements and expect them to continue to support the status quo.

    Poke a rotweiller with a stick long enough and it will bite you when it gets the chance

    • 159
      BillyBob.... says:

      All about personal choice………….. do not look for an excuse!!

    • 170
      Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

      Bollocks.

    • 184

      “To get the pittance society allows them”?

      They should get fuck all.

    • 185
      MrAngry61 says:

      To get the pittance society allows them they have to ‘agree’ to hunt for non existant jobs that many of them are unskilled for…

      1) Nobody said that they couldn’t learn at school
      2) They can still get help learning to read etc whilst on the dole
      3) They can seek out courses that make them more employable, often for nominal cost for benefits claimants
      4) Not EVERYONE lives in a cardboard box in t middle of t road – ALL of the looting was recreational acquisitive criminality.

      You portray them as the underclass victims – they have the opportunity & means to improve themselves & contribute to society by volunteering rather than smashing & grabbing from it.

      You Sir, are a socialist apologist!

    • 197
      Steve Miliband says:

      Still, on the upside the country has suddenly become more rightwing.

      BBC please note; they are not ‘riots’, they are ‘lootings’

      • 263
        John Bellingham says:

        That’s a sea change then, on Saturday and Sunday they were “protesters” and the burning down of flats with people inside was “unrest” or “disturbances”.

    • 200
      Wise man says:

      If you stop poking the rottweiller and then it might start poking you.

    • 316
      Anonymous says:

      The rottweiler will get put down afterwards – good idea you’ve inspired there. Nice one.

    • 331
      misterned says:

      “Then we get rich bastards telling us that these people rioting burning and looting is unnacceptable yet not one of them asks why it happened. ”

      BOLLOCKS!!!

      I have posted a very long list of why it happened and a lot of it is because of left wing apologists like you having any say in how society turned a blind eye to ill disciplined, lazy, feckless spoiled youths who expect everything handed to them on a fucking plate.

      They did not work in school because they thought that they were too cool for school and preferred posting alleged gansta pics on facebook.

      Now they have no qualifications and skills due entirely to their OWN lack of effort. Now they can’t get jobs. That is their own fault. Many young people from poor and deprived backgrounds that give a shit about themselves and respect themselves and work hard to better themselves.

      Below I list a number of the root causes of the rioting. Note that it does not include poverty, youths not being listened to, or respected or any of the other ridiculous theories which seek to remove the blame from the society which caused these riots. Society has changed a lot over the last 15 years. Some things for the better. There is a lot more tolerance of gays, and immigrants and a lot less racism and homophobia. Although these are increasing in some communities.

      However, the changes in society over the last 14 years have created a specific section of society, which although there has always been a troubled element, anti-social and disconnected, this has been “fine tuned” by certain rule-sets of the rest of society to create the conditions for these violent looting sprees to occur. These changes in society are as follows.

      -removing discipline from schools for fear of damaging children’s self esteem.
      -encouraging parents to have soft discipline at home. Smacking your child is frowned upon. (sadly, a tiny minority of children need this sanction, as nothing else will work on them. I know, I was one)
      -giving children their full adult rights, when they are too young to comprehend responsibility.
      -undermining marriage. Making single parenthood acceptable and financially penalising couples, rewarding marriage break-ups through the benefits system.
      - The government and media’s sexist portrayal of men as being either stupid and useless to be pitied or ignored, or potentially aggressive violent rapists to be feared.
      -Father’s being prevented access to their children and the state automatically taking the woman’s side.
      -A sustained left wing politically correct attack on men generally and the relentless feminisation of society.
      -compensation culture breeding a health and safety nightmare preventing the police from taking risks, for fear of compensation lawsuits filed by the police.
      -politically correct policing turning a blind eye to some communities and their criminal activities for fear of being branded racist.
      -The state neutering communities and creating a dependency culture which creates communities full of people who believe that they need not get involved, that they are powerless and the state should solve all our problems. We are fearful to help people in need because we may be sued for any inadvertent injury caused.
      -Creating massive tensions by massively and deliberately increasing immigration in order for the left to “rub the right’s noses in diversity” bringing huge numbers of people in from foreign cultures who have no natural understanding of our traditional values of fairness and justice and the rule of law (the ones which have been relentlessly undermined for over a decade) Without giving them time to adjust and integrate into our society, they create their own societies in their own ghettos where they live by their own rules.
      -Constantly weakening the justice system so that there are no real punishments anymore. Theft from a shop does not result in prison for example.

      All the above have been relentlessly eroding the fabric of our society and all have been deliberate labour policy in their irresponsible and catastrophic social experiment.

      Do not let the liberals blame “deprivation and lack of opportunity” for these riots. We have poured millions and millions of pounds into run-down areas over the past 15 years. It has not worked. If after 13 years of labour governments, these predominantly labour areas are STILL full of deprivation, you have to ask WHY? Is this not a catastrophic failure by labour over their 13 years to raise the living standards of their core demographic?

      These riots are not caused by cutting a few youth clubs. They are caused by years and years of liberal social conditioning to create a criminal element that now KNOWS that the state cannot control them anymore.

  46. 155
    joescotus says:

    nip over to labour list … read jonathon roberts one weapons grade champaine socialist desperately wanking himself to death in an effort to remain in fantasy land fucking fudd!

    • 173
      Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

      No thanks, its boring since Dolly left in disgrace…..

    • 179
      Anon E Mouse says:

      Is ‘fondue’ some euphamism I’ve yet to be educated on or is it that naff 70′s melted cheese & bread based dinner party staple served with a Blue Nun ?

  47. 161
    Jimmy Thumbsdown says:

    …have taken to just sello-taping the two of them back to back…

    Like AK47 magazines! Aieeeeeeeee, the revolution has come, fellow armchair revolutionaries!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • 215
      A Management Trainer, also PR guru says:

      It’s a trick we teach on our courses, – saves a few extra seconds for a high flyer donchano

  48. 162
    Anonymous says:

    sky news say:

    Greater Manchester Police’s twitter feed says two people already jailed for their part in last night’s disorder. “swift justice. Two men sentenced to 10 weeks and 16 weeks. First of many.”

    >>>

    That’s it? 10 to 16 weeks (out in 2 to 3 weeks) for looting? What sort of fucking deterrent is 2 to 3 weeks in a holiday camp prison?

    When the other looters see that kind of “sentence” and a total lack of action by the police to physically stop them in the act, they’ll just be fucking laughing.

    Send in the army and break their fucking legs, you useless spineless shit of a government.

    • 165
      StandingBy says:

      Yes, agreed, -= and also the <18 yoofs are 'too young' to really have any tough censure / punishment?

      Can that really be true?

    • 178
      Axe The Telly Tax says:

      Are you coming round to my idea of a right-wing military coup yet?

      A nice 8 point plan to save Britain from the looney left liberal socialist feminist fuckwits.

      1. Martial law declared to bring order to our streets
      2. Death penalty brought back for murder and treason
      3. Trial and execution of all the treasonous anti-british MPs/journalists
      4. Deportation of all immigrants and their offspring who have come here since 1948.
      5. All EU law to be made null and void immediately.
      6. Corporal punishment for all state schools.
      7. National Service restored.
      8. A natiionalist government installed.

      Britain needs another Cromwell before it’s too late!

      • 180
        Axe The Telly Tax says:

        Cometh the hour cometh the man.

      • 394
        nell says:

        I don’t think you can know your history too well.

        cromwell and family were real thugs !

        We really don’t want to repeat the likes of them.

      • 405
        Barnabas Scudamore says:

        We do not EVER need another Cromwell – he was a leftist, anti-establishment fool – if Marxism had been invented in his time, I would throw that into the barrel also – he even managed to KILL my monarch.

        No, we need a fresh young King – with plenty of fire and the ability to inspire and motivate people.

    • 334
      misterned says:

      They weren’t nicked for looting, but for swearing at a police officer.

      When was the last time you heard of anyone being arrested for swearing at the police? let alone charged, found guilty and imprisoned.

      Those that have been done for looting are being bailed to be sentenced by a Crown court because they can impose longer sentences.

    • 339
      John Bellingham says:

      As I have posted here several times and I now see that the estimable Col. Bob Stewart ( he who had CNN’s Christiane Armanpour in thrall in Kosovo) agrees with me, you break EVERY BONE–especially heads. Fill the casualty departments of hospitals and really wreak some havoc. Rioters MUST be punished on the spot–no namby-pamby check the photos and then put them on the naughty step after a week.
      The Police force have always had a friendly home for sadistic bullies, their skills should be put to good use.

  49. 171
    Voice of Reason says:

    So now all the scroats and robbers know that they need to steal both phones when they mug a politician. Brilliant.

    • 245
      Anonymous says:

      exactly when was the last time a politician was within 10 miles of a member of the public?

  50. 174
    Voice of Reason says:

    There are far too many women commanders at the Met. One of the worst is that ‘aptly named’Cressida Dick. The Met are good at killing innocent folk but bloody useless at preventing real thugs and looters.

    • 192
      BillyBob.... says:

      There are too many of these ‘split arses’ and ‘high flying males’ who are chiefs, most with sociology degrees and very left leaning political ass lickers……..

  51. 175
    My Dick is bigger than my Brain says:

    Ed Balls, – and certainly bigger than my Blackberry

  52. 183
    Barnabas Scudamore says:

    From what I hear, the boffins in the doughnut cracked the code a fair old while ago !!!

    So, If you’ve been using blackberry – EVERYTHING is logged and collated.

    The doughnut have computers capable of recording every second of a person’s life from the moment they are born, until they are 80 years of age.

    I’m not really too sure of the implications of that fact, but there you go.

  53. 187
    the last quango in paris says:

    so we pay the looters to do sod all as they’re on benefits, we then pay more for the Police, we pay for the COurts and punishment and we pay for the tidy up.

    Why don’t they just tax us at 99% ?

  54. 195
    Anonymous says:

    “that the police and MI5 have called in GCHQ boffins to crack the encrytion on the BlackBerry RIM data network.”

    So the answer is to employ another bunch of eggheads to try and defeat the laws of physics ?

    shouldn’t take long. Don’t have time to do the maths, but it will exceed the life expectancy of this planet, with current computing power.

  55. 198
    Ray Stybrow says:

    Whilst we all despise the looters, it’s a pity the same calls for punitive justice wasn’t evident among the political elite when they were looting John Lewis and the public purse with impunity. How these hypocritical cretins can lecture the rest of us on civic duty and responsibility defies belief. Who are they to lead the moral crusade?
    Only the British do corruption with po-faced superiority.

    • 219
      anonymous says:

      agree entirely

      funny how nobody to my knowledge has mentioned anything about the three deaths in birmingham by the so called hit and run driver

  56. 202
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    What happened to Derek Draper?

    • 205
      annette curton says:

      He went back to his haberdashery shop to do some more fabrication.

    • 207
      Tessa Tickles says:

      Derek “Debt is not a problem” Draper? Derek “Let’s tell lies about our opponents” Draper? That thick socialist tit? He’s got a blog which hasn’t been updated since April 2009 – http://derekdrapersblog.blogspot.com/

      And he runs a company with his wife, making corporate videos. Or not. http://www.flowvideo.co.uk/

      The website’s utter shit and hasn’t been updated for a long time, so I guess business isn’t doing well. Still, his last client were the Samaritans, so he knows who to call. Personally, I think he should just down all the tablets with a bottle of whiskey and call it a day.

      • 344
        Spiteful John says:

        A little bird told me that he DID ring the Samaritans while in a pit of despair.
        They put him on hold: the music was Freddy Mercury, “Who want’s to live for ever”.

    • 210
      Tessa Tickles says:

      Dead in a ditch somewhere, hopefully.

  57. 204
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Anyway i am off , so if my monkier is used tonight it will not be the real Billy .

    Have a good un all.

    Ps Cut VAT on dildos to stimulate the econmey :-)

  58. 206
    Fuck the fuck off Harman says:

    It’s not enough that we do our best; sometimes we have to do what’s required.
    Sir Winston Churchill

  59. 209
    AJC says:

    Why not implant the second device? I am sure we could suggest an appropriate orifice. Ah, snag they talk through it.

  60. 217
    anonymous says:

    theresa may has spent all day talking to the police

    wouldn’t it be a good idea if she talked to young people too

    or are they not important?

    • 220
      Fuck the fuck off Harman says:

      Let’s get things under control first. Then we can see how the precious lambs feel.

      • 250
        Anonymous says:

        you have a strange affiliation with control – do you want to talk about it or are you gordon brown?

        • 439
          Fuck the fuck off Harman says:

          Your comment makes little sense. Are you perhaps an equality and diversity coordinator?

    • 307
      Alex says:

      They lose their importance when they start looting and torching buildings.

      Save the engaging with young people for those who didn’t indulge in these utterly abhorrent actions.

      • 420
        Hypocracy UK says:

        like the people disengaged from talking to a corrupt government and state

        but called them urgently to stop the riots

  61. 218
    Farmer Giles says:

    Red sky at night, Croydon’s alight.

    • 235
      Android says:

      I don’t believe all this Blackberry nonsense being the rioting yoof’s mobile of choice. The Blackberry has to be the most uncoolest phone of the moment, no self respecting chav would be seen dead with one.

      • 353
        Spiteful John says:

        But as Harriet Harman has pointed out, the 12-14 year old mentally retarded kids are smashing in the front of JD Sports because of the increase in University Fees.

    • 239
      Fire Watcher on the Roof says:

      Quiet tonight though ain’t it?

      They’re late.

      Still, – got me stirrup pump and me sandwiches.

  62. 223
    Naughtius Maximus says:

    Riots spread to Manchester, Liverpool, Nottingham

    This is what you get when you don’t shoot looters.

    If the Met had cracked skulls and shot looters from day 1, the rest of London and the country would not have had a problem. The scum saw they could get away with it and they are doing.

    It is time for their blood, it is time for a brutal crack-down.

    It’s obvious – why is it not happening?

    • 230
      Harriets bleeding heart Coppers says:

      ACPO should be hung out to dry. They failed their country. Theresa May wanted to let the police take charge of the police and they failed, Only when she ordered them to kick arse did they kick arse. She has had a lot of flak over this but ACPO are the real villains.

      Never again must a British bobby just stand by and watch as his town is looted and burned to the ground.

      Labour turned the police into diversity social workers and before Mrs May hands over power to the police they must prove that they have eradicated the Harman social experiment from within their ranks. How can it be that the police just watch as people’s homes and businesses are destroyed but carry out dawn raids on someone who has merely insulted someone else on twitter?

    • 241
      Standing By says:

      Yooman Roits?

      innit

      ‘n that

      nowotoimean?

      • 271
        Ken Clarke, the looters' friend, says:

        They’re just little scamps, that’s all!

        They shouldn’t be imprisoned. The little scamps should be sent to Alton Towers.

        Chortle chortle.

        • 280
          King Herod says:

          The Old testament has some novel punishments that could be meted out. I always refer to the good book during times like these.

  63. 225
    Where's the breaking Huhne news? says:

    Cycling home this evening and listening to R4 1800 news, right at the end they said they had just received news that more complaints had been made about Huhne’s election expenses. By the same bod who has complained before and he has just submitted more evidence.

    As I was on a steep long climb at the time I did not take it all in, thinking that Guido would be running with the breaking news as he is on premanent Huhne watch and I could get all the details on his Bog. But there is nothing here and there is nothing on the BBC web site and nothing on Google. I did hear it though.

  64. 228
    And now for something completely different says:

    I thought kids nowadays were brainwashed into believing in Global Warming.

    So why all the fires?

    And has the UK now exceeded its carbon emission limit?

    Ah – is that the Real reaason why Cameron wants to stop it all so quickly?

  65. 229
    Should have gone to SpadSavers says:

    Let’s call a SpAd a SpAd.

  66. 233
    More Good News says:

    Grant Shapps, the housing minister, has come out in support of any local authority that is trying to evict tenants convicted of looting. He said: “It’s right that people understand that one night of madness could have consequences for the rest of their lives in terms of all services including housing.”

    • 251
      anonymous says:

      grant shapps is the MP for welwyn garden shitty

      he likes having someone pat him on the head vigorously

      which is why he is getting shorter and shorter and …..

    • 255
      Camoron is hamstrung by his devotion to his beloved EU says:

      I suspect the EU law will say “no”.

      Right to a family life, innit.

    • 264
      Anonymous says:

      He could be talking about a marriage proposal there!!

  67. 240
    anonymous says:

    we know that parliament is shitting tomorrow to debate the ‘riots’

    What are the odds for Cameron to say:

    1. they’re scum
    2. police can do what they like
    3. learn the lessons
    4. asked Lord Bendy of Wendytown to do a report

    • 256
      Camoron is hamstrung by his devotion to his beloved EU says:

      5. Hoodies should be hugged.

    • 322
      nell says:

      What militwit bullyballs and hattyharpic are really hoping is that cameron does not point up the fact that labour created this welfare benefit underclass in the first place whilst systematically destroying real jobs in industry and trashing the education system.

      • 347
        Simples says:

        It was all part of New Labour’s Client State.

        1. Create non-jobs in the public sector, advertise them in the Guardian and watch the grateful votes flood in.
        2. Pay people benefits to sit on their arses all day, with the certain knowlege that if they don’t vote Labour and the Tories get in, they will have to work for a living
        3. Invite loads of immigrants in to do the jobs that the feckless, who now get more money to not work, won’t do, and hope they also vote for the benevolent Tony who let them in, and in the knowlege that the Tories would kick them out too.

        • 378
          nell says:

          Yes and then they sit and twiddle their thumbs all day. Forgot how to work. Forgot how to parent. Forgot how to cook. Forgot how to garden and housework. Forgot how to walk – Tesco’s, sainsbury’s, the local chemist will deliver everything you want to your door – you don’t even have to get out of bed!

          Just get more and more obese . And all paid for by the state!!!

          It is the ultimate monument to labour’s 13 years of incompetence and arrogance.

  68. 244
    Light relief says:

    BBC 4 now. Timothy Spall sailing a barge around the UK. Great prog

    • 257
      Valium says:

      Alternatively I have just painted my front windows, your welcome to pop round and watch the paint dry.

  69. 252
    Conspiracy Theorist says:

    Over the last few days I’m sure I’ve seen on several occasions what looks like white guys dressed all in black doing the dirty work of cracking open shopfronts, then (mostly) black guys piling in behind to grab the stock. Has anyone else spotted this?

  70. 261
    Anonymous says:

    In today’s London Evening Standard, the leftist commentator and former Labour spin-person Andrew Neather claims that anyone “tutting over the role of Twitter and other networking sites in London’s riots is just silly.”

    Neather goes on to simper: “We’re told that Twitter and Facebook, along with BlackBerry messaging, have been crucial to the gangs apparently organising much of the rioting.”

    Would Neather care to tell us a bit more about the meetings he attended in Whitehall, back when Labour was in power, in which (as he later told us) the Labour government was determined to promote unrestricted immigration in order to “rub the Right’s noses” in multi-cultural diversity ?

    Would he now care to comment on who was being silly ?

    • 277
      Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

      He wasn’t being silly he was part of a criminal conspiracy.

  71. 268
    anonymous says:

    here’s an interesting story of possible military abuse

    http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/82858,news-comment,news-politics,mutilating-taliban-dead-a-first-for-the-british-army-afghanistan-falklands-war

    if Dave lets the police loose who know what will happen

  72. 270
    Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

    Reading some of the early court reports in the Mail this evening I have been struck by how pathetic some of these street warriors are once the authorities catch up with them.

    “Lifeguard Aaron Mulholland, from Camberwell, is said to have joined thieves at the Foneworld store in the area. He wept in the dock as his solicitor insisted he had ‘learned his lesson’.

    “Kerry Spence said: ‘He is desperately, desperately sorry for the situation. He’s absolutely disgusted with himself.”

    Not as disgusted as I am with the gutless little cnut. Read on there is more…Mr Matthews for example..

    “Jason Matthews was arrested as he tried to flee police at the branch in East Dulwich where more than £100,000 of damage was caused on Monday.

    Officers are said to have grappled with the 35-year-old, whose face was covered by a bandana, amongst broken glass and pools of pasta sauce from smashed jars.

    Matthews, who is also alleged to have been in possession of cannabis at the time, had to be hit with a baton during the scuffle, the court was told.

    Robert Davis, prosecuting, said that following Matthews’ arrest he told officers he was ‘not one of the bad ones’. ‘The officers got it wrong,’ he said. ‘I needed to get pampers for my baby.”

    He’ll certainly be needing Pampers for himse;f after his sphincter gets massively expanded by his new cell mate Big Bubba.

    There are many more of these stupid illiterate thieving cnuts and they deserve everything they get and more.

    • 273
      Socialist Revolutionary Charlie "Storm Parliament" Gilmour says:

      My botty hurts! Nasty working-class men in the showers keep ‘doing things’ to it.

      I want my mummy!

    • 326
      nell says:

      I liked the ones , and there were a number, who tried to argue that they found the stuff on the street and were just taking it to the police station!

      And then there were some who were hiding under tables and in cupboards when the police unexpectedly arrived. Some of these tried to pass themselves off as employees of the establishment being looted!

      labour musr be proud tonight! What a creative lot of benefit dependents they managed to produce in 13 years of government!

      • 340
        Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

        Quite correct Nell – I did read about the dipstick who tried to convince the police he was taking the stuff he’d found in the street – £90, a bottle of vodka and a load of scratchcards – down to the police station to hand it in.

        The stupidity and cowardice of these masked warriors of Tottenham High Rd are hilarious.

  73. 279
    simon r says:

    Guido – can you name and shame tomorrow any MP who doesn’t turn up.

    I’ll get the list started for you…

    1. Gordon Brown

    • 293
      Infuriated of West Mids says:

      Bloody great idea.

    • 296
      Gordon Brown MP says:

      I will be visiting and supporting the local businesses in Kirkcaldy who have suffered immensely during these difficult days of white riots caused by the racist coalition government. I will then retire to my drawing room to complete the difficult task of shading between the lines of my willy sketches & will eat my bogies until bed-time at 6.30pm. That concludes my prime ministerial statement to the House.

      • 346
        Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

        The most significant thing that has harmed the businessmen of Kirkcaldy is a long term Labour local authority and having an MP who proved to be one of the most tribal, mean spirited, malicious and incompetent representatives in living memory.

    • 309
      PD77 says:

      I’d prefer it if he named and shamed the MPs that blame the riots on the cuts, I can also get the list started on that:

      1. Every member on the Opposition benches.

  74. 281
    Billy Bowden and the Deathly Dildos says:

    If Billy Bowden is the solution, what was the fucking problem?

  75. 283
    Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

    Even funnier I read in the press today that the criminality in Clapham Jn last night didn’t spread too far because local residents stood at the end of Northcote Rd and scared the hoodies off. I used to live in that part of the world and I presume it was the rugger buggers rather than the local geeks that did it but it is still hilarious.

    • 289
      Man on Omnibus says:

      And I think I know what Clapham Common Estate they came from too. This may be one of the few occasions of looters NOT shitting on their own doorstep as I haven’t heard of any attacks on shops in Clapham Common so far.

      • 324
        Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

        It’s the estates just north of Clapham Junction – there aren’t any shops on Clapham Common except on the Southside which is really the east side and an easy BMX bike ride away from Brixton.

        • 395
          You couldn't make it up says:

          Er, I beg to differ. I ran a shop on The Pavement ten years ago, even then the BMX feral youth enjoyed the odd mini riot on the Common opposite.

          The scum steamed our shop one day. It was an Estate Agents. They stole the charity box.

          My only surprise of the last few days is that other people who live in London are surprised about the riots. I moved out eight years ago after getting sick of constant break-ins (car and house), relations and friends being mugged, local shops steamed and drugged up wasters banging on my door at 2am asking for a loan so they could get home.

          London is well and truly fucked. Join the flight now whilst you still can.

  76. 285
    I don't need no doctor says:

    I have a question for Miliband, Balls, Harman and Cooper. Why did labour lose 100+ seats at the last election.
    I have a further question for Harman – why are you such a pathetic woman.
    Harman, you lost the election because you and your party fucked up the country. You were responsible therefore you should resign. The public are sick of your lies and pathetic attitude.

  77. 288
    Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

    BBC apologised for accusing Darcus howe of being involved in riots.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8693842/London-riots-BBC-apologises-for-accusing-Darcus-Howe.html

    He’s been there and done it and even got three months for assaulting a police officer but there is no way the Beeb will be robust about this

    • 373
      Anonymous says:

      No doubt Fiona Armstrong will be in the firing but this is so unfair. If Darcus Howe starts spouting the R word he has picked on the wrong person. Fiona (along with her parents and two brothers) lived for much of her early life in Kano Northern Nigeria where her father worked for the British Council. When they returned to the UK her father lectured at my college.His course was absolutely brilliant and certainly helped me understand the background of my African-Caribbean friends and later the pupils I went on to teach. His course was the first of its kind in the UK and one which was most certainly needed in the 60s after the influx of so many children from the Caribbean.

  78. 291
    Gordon ( SoldGoldAtThe ) BottomBrown says:

    Ed: wasn’t it Sue who sold England’s gold ???? http://bit.ly/p6btHT

  79. 300
    Not quite the greatest batsman ever says:

    Any remote chance of tomorrow’s Question Time being a non Party political debate has been scuppered by the choice of Prescott to sit in the Labour seat. Dimbleby and Co. have messed it up again. QT is no more than an entertainment, however much they try to say its a serious current affairs debate involving members of the public.

    • 330
      Anonymous says:

      The only entertainment value it has is trying to spot the one or two Tories that are in the selected audience.

  80. 301
    Anonymous says:

    “the wonks and spinners have taken to just sello-taping the two of them back to back”

    Sounds like when the banks told everyone not to keep their credit/debit cards in the same place and then gave out free card wallets so they could keep all the cards in one handy place.

    Tossers, the lot of them.

  81. 302
    joescotus says:

    harmon on everywhere spouting “its yer tories wots caused it ,poor kids have no future under this tory gument

    listen Hunt why dont you try getting your rancid fucking arse fucking down to where that poor sirlankan shopkeeperlost all his stock via the poor kids
    ya mealymouthed commie Hunt!

  82. 304
    Axe The Telly Tax says:

    http://tinyurl.com/3j33sc9

    Every cloud…

    Hahahahahahahaha

  83. 311
    anonymous says:

    so what’s more crucial

    some kids making a mess of some towns

    OR

    a government that ignores the people

    • 367
      nell says:

      How about we start educating our children to respect people’s lives, homes and businesses and understand that it’s their responsibility to get a good education followed by a job and then to make a positive contribution to the society they and we all live in!

      That’s a principle that’s been sadly lacking for more than a decade.

  84. 312
    Anonymous says:

    What time are the thieving liblabcons kicking off their wankfest tomorrow?

    I don’t want to miss the start. There’s bound to be An Announcement.

    It’s bound to be the wrong thing to do. It’s bound to make things worse. It’s bound to be laughably ludicrous. Wankers.

    • 423
      Whatever you do,Ed,don't mention that Labour was the government that created these people says:

      I can bet one thing that once Milly has done the usual “I utterly condemn the violence and there is no excuse” he will then lauch into a litany of excuses for it ….starting with trebling tuition fees,cutting EMA and cutting public services whiilst failing to mention that Labour inspired policies on the family,education and single mothers over the past 13 years have actually been largely responsible for the growth of this underclass

  85. 313
    You couldn't make it up says:

    Police fighting vigilantes in Eltham tonight.

    • 325
      annette curton says:

      If you try to stop rioting looters trashing your house or business premises or burning you alive the Met will arrest you, no you really couldn’t make it up.

      • 355
        Tessa Tickles says:

        I bet if you got in your car and fled the rioters, the pigs would do you for speeding.

  86. 320
    nell says:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/10/uk-riots-language

    The graudian climbing the heights of the inconsequential and irrelevant again, celebrates the colourful language associated with the latest riots.

    It’s obviously difficult for a failed leftwing rag like this to address the real issues of death, arson and destoyed livelihoods and homes .

    Next it will be discussing the stolen fashion choices of the looters!

    • 327
      Cok Wan says:

      Don’t give the fucking nonces any ideas nell, FFS.

    • 333
      annette curton says:

      That may seem excessive. Choice of words very often implies a subjective judgement, as the Guardian’s own style guide, on the word terrorists, points out. It adds: “We need to be very careful about using the term”, and suggests alternatives – militants, radicals, separatists – that may sometimes be more appropriate.
      The Guardians style guide?.

      • 345
        nell says:

        +++Laugh+++

        Yes. The graudian’s style guide . Can you imagine anything more important at this time of national crisis?!

        No wonder they employ the likes of loopy pollytwaddle!!

    • 343
      Tessa Tickles says:

      The drivel the Guardian comes up with. When it finally goes under, will its final issue say “we’re going bust” or “we’re going bankrupt”?

      ‘Bust’ is a bit sexist, innit? ‘Bankrupt’ has that horrid ‘bank’ word in it.

      Much sucking on teeth by Polly and Mongbiot.

  87. 328
    Troy Tempest says:

    I hope Harperson, Livingtone et al get seriously shafted and the next elections for what they have said.

    If this is about cuts, presumably there are no cuts in Newcastle? Glasgow? Edinburgh? Southampton?

    Did the “cuts” in Manchester take 3 days longer to kick in than in Hackney?

    It’s pure political opportunism. Sickening.

  88. 332
    Ah! Monika says:

    Tonight’s observations.

    The mothers are so bloody fat that they can’t catch their kids to give them a good hiding.

    What was tattooed as a butterfly is now a Pterodactyl.

    The sea isn’t rising, Britain is sinking as fatties expand.

    People were seen throwing goods into Primark.

  89. 335
    Rioting Sprog says:

    Blackberries are so yesterday.

    • 336
      Rioting Sprog says:

      I guuess the Bl@ck word is the modded word so I will try again

      • 357
        Old Tory Bigot says:

        I know. It’s getting ridiculous now.

        A funny sort of libertarian is Guido. Doesn’t like free speech much.

  90. 338
    Rioting Sprog says:

    Bl@ckberries are so yesterday.

  91. 341
    Polly inventing the facts (again) says:
    • 342
      The Champagne socialist class says:

      How low can you go Polly? You really have no idea about what is going on in the permanent welfare class of Britain that your ideology has created.

    • 348
      Tessa Tickles says:

      “Many of these mothers escaped bad/violent fathers as bad influence on their children.”

      Yeah. That’s why those mothers willingly spread their legs and let the “bad/violent” men inseminate them with chav seed.

      • 359
        nell says:

        So where’s her evidence for this monumentally ridiculous deduction?!

        And if she was right would these women then go on to have another child by another violent man, and then another by a different violent man and on and on??

        Or would it be more reasonable to deduct that having a number of children by a number of different men, has been for some women under labour’s ridiculously generous and lax welfare benefit provisions, an open door to loadsamoney!

        • 366
          Tessa Tickles says:

          I have a cousin – in Manchester – who has had three kids by as many fathers, she doesn’t know any of the fathers’ names (in fact, she wouldn’t know them again if she saw them), each kid conceived behind a nightclub on a Saturday night for two reasons: more benefits and a bigger flat.

          I’ve two other cousins trying to beat her record.

    • 351
      The Champagne socialist class says:

      Polly. You and your elitist socialist colleagues have destroyed our society. You have actively paid money to those who do not better to become beholden to the state that you have created.

      What you have done is evil. At least in the 60s and 70s we had Grammar schools that gave every child a chance to become your equal. Not any more you actively give young folk no chance of drinking champagne with you in Tuscany.

      • 361
        Tessa Tickles says:

        “you actively give young folk no chance of drinking champagne with you in Tuscany”

        Polly wouldn’t want the progeny of grotty council-house dwellers moving into her Tuscan neighbourhood.

    • 352
      nell says:

      Presumably she’s tweeting this rubbish from the balcony of her tuscany villa between sips of her pink champagne as she watches the sun set over her swimming pool!

    • 360
      Anonymous says:

      So with or without a father they’re fucked? Thanks for that insight, you stoopid bint!

    • 369
      Put up or SHUT UP Polly says:

      Polly put up a photograph of an ordinary kid(s) from Handsworth swimming in the pool of your Tuscan Villa then we may start to take you seriously.

  92. 356
    Old Tory Bigot says:

    Dianne Abbot alert (Newsnight)

    Banging on about not stigmatising ‘da community’ and that hundreds of people gathered to clean up.

    She didn’t mention that nearly all of them were white.

    Oh she makes me heartily sick the fat, smug old cow.

    • 363
      In their image says:

      Labour have sunk to new lows. There haven’t been any cuts yet. The riots are a reflection on the society that they moulded.

      • 391
        Old Tory Bigot says:

        I have in my mind the image that Abbot so forcefully conjured a while ago.

        Bla’ck mothers ‘going to the wire’ for their kids – or some such emotive nonsense.

        In London they are more likely to be sending their kids into looted supermarkets to load up.

  93. 358
    Spanner in the Works. says:

    Newsnight=Labournight

    • 365
      Old Tory Bigot says:

      Yes. Notice Abbot in the studio lording it with her imperious “Aye em a Laydeee” manerisms while Warsi is on a video link.

      Who’s in power?

      • 372
        Spanner in the Works. says:

        They put on part of the Gove, Harman interview from last night. they let Harmen spout her misguided idealology but that was it. The camera showed to a scoweling Gove then cut before he utterd a word.

        • 377
          Tessa Tickles says:

          But on a plus note, some BBC outside broadcasting people had their heads kicked-in in Manchester last night.

          • Gonk says:

            Scanning around for some missed
            treasures I have alighted on your
            absolute jem comment and it has
            cheered me up no end.

        • 390
          Here is the news says:

          So WHEN is CamerHoon going to axe AlJaBeeba?

          • Spanner in the Works. says:

            When he finally grows some and realizes he is Prime Minister of this country and not the leader of of an Eaton debateing society, so in reality probably never.

      • 375
        Tessa Tickles says:

        It’s Ramadan. One presumes Warsi is at home surrounded by discarded Milky Bar wrappers and pizza boxes.

  94. 362
    Booyakasha! says:

    After an impressively rare persistent questioning by Esler on Newsnight, Fatbutt just said the cuts have not caused the looting, a remark which Labour HQ will be incandescent about. When the shadow cabinet reshuffle comes around, she’ll probably get her marching orders and a leaving present of ryce and pee.

  95. 376
    Anonymous says:

    Newsnight bias. Last night’s spat between Mrs Dromey amd Mr Gove was repaeated tonight but we only saw the Harmperson’s side of it. Why was Gove’s response left out? We know that socialist Esler was Mrs “I’m a plagarist” Wilcox’s little sidekick but surely after all these years he could at least be more intelligent in his attempts at political bias.

  96. 381
    Britainistan says:

    The Sikhs and the Turkish are applauded for defending their communities. The English do it and they’re called racist thugs. Funny old world.

    • 386
      If democracy changed things it would be banned says:

      Sadly this is the mindset of the Harman elite.

      Yes all respect to the sikhs and the Asians, they have done the right thing and defended their property and all respect to them. That the police, Labour and the BBC condemns white folk for doing the same tells you ALL you need to know.

      The elite of this country are way out of touch with ordinary people.

  97. 382
    Anonymous says:

    Blackberry should be aware that us business users are going to ditch them for other more ethical providors.

  98. 383
    Ah! Monika says:

    Fatbut previously claimed that Bl @ck mothers love their children more that W h ite mums.
    Tonight she claims that Jam-makers love the Queen more than Gavin Estler.

    Next week The P o pe

  99. 385
    Britainistan says:

    Zoe Williams on Newsnight saying unemployment is the reason for the looting. Yes, it must be so tough for a 13 year old to find work in the crowded job market.

    • 387
      Axe The Telly Tax says:

      And of course burning down all the local shops/businesses is bound to attract more employers to the area.

    • 396
      Old Tory Bigot says:

      If you wanted any more proof that the BBC and the Guardian are basically the same organisation then look no further.

      The BBC’s list of ‘pundits’ on any topic, and the Guardian commentariat overlap exactly.

      The delightful Zoe will pop up on Womans Hour with the week, I guarantee it.

      • 414
        Tom Baldwin's Liebour Ajax supplier says:

        Not as bad a riot apologist Daniel Harris (probably gay also) from the hacking tax evading Guardian on Sky News paper review with that clown from the indie, Yasmin no Brain, telling us how the tories are terrible, liebour are wonderful, the guardian is the St James bible in disguise and Lee Grasper is not a racist wanker with a small cock…..even sky when not properly checked ends up looking and sounding like BBC local news!

        come on sky…l pay for better than that bias bollocks!

      • 433
        bbc columbian liaison officer says:

        Newsnight played the clip of Diane Abbot (spit) from the night before, spouting off, but without the excellent riposte from Gove. Talk about re-writing history.
        Shame the rioters didn’t burn down bbc hq.

  100. 399
    Anne Drecks says:

    Interestingly, Ewanme says on the DT:

    “The kidz ain’t brainy enough to realise that they is revoltin against a advertisin-funded , media-driven , consumerist society wot is a dead end .

    Sell ….sell … sell .

    Empty messages produce empty responses .”

  101. 401
    PC Miliband says:

    All it needed then was for the police to become the police again. Recalling Parliament and spoiling Dave’s holiday need not have happened.

    All it took was for the Plod to arrest arsonists and looters rather than taking photographs of them.

    This is not rocket science but it is completely alien to socialist ideals.

  102. 403
    ModBot says:

    Anne @ 11.55pm

    Cannot print that. This blog is for old stick-in-the-muds. If you came here for cutting-edge philosophy you are in the wrong place.

    • 412
      Tom Baldwin's Liebour Ajax supplier says:

      no, the beeb got rid of 606 ages ago to pay for the autumn coke shipment from chavez!

      When the manc looters, the children of Bliar and Gormless Brown smash up and destroy Al Ja Beeb a headquaters in the union heartlands of the north, will be get a refund!

  103. 404
    The Police, the BBC, the Guardian, the political elite and the chattering classes says:

    The Sikhs are quite correct to defend their property.

    The Muslims are quite correct to defend their property.

    The Turks are quite correct to defend their property.

    And quite rightly too.

    So why are indigenous whites considered wrong to do the same?

    • 415
      sg-strummer says:

      Been wondering about that myself.

    • 422
      Daft Questions No # 46 says:

      Cos’ it’s racist …particularly if they are also English !!!

    • 429
      Anonymus says:

      They are quite correct to do so if they arent the ones sitting round drinking beer all day and then throwing bottles at the police.

      Get real

  104. 406
    Britainistan says:

    I wonder what reaction these lefties who are finding excuses for the looting would have if their own homes were set alight and they were mugged? I have a feeling they wouldn’t be too keen to justify the violence.

  105. 410
    Cartman for President says:

    Watch channel 21 on Freeview right now. One of the greatest and most politically incorrect South Park episodes ever. A piss take of Jennifer Lopez. Every song she sings has taco in the title. :-D

  106. 413
    not a machine says:

    What a delightful smorgesboard of discussion tonight , I have urges to make a a few witty but caustic remarks , but given labour wonk factory is applying teflon , that would be too simple and a bit unfair on the stance cameron has taken . One report has it that the libdems have gone to ground to re appear in some old clothes , I often wonder what would happen had they been on the titanic giving orders , “trekkies , programmers and european superstate backers , the life boats are over there , everyone else heres a very long document on swimming”
    Danny Krugers opponent got some bits wrong and for some reason Mr Esler could not manage the same appraoch as he did the previous night , but there was quite a lot going on , i dont know what image diane was trying or for that matter Mrs warsi . Which makes me think some dissonance is going on ready for thurs big debate .
    How a bout a cartoon of ed as naked pig , with an apple in the mouth on hot platter ready to be served up , mmmmmmm

    David cameron has made in my view the correct call , and it has caused some realism , which after over a decade of spin fireside chats is a little like viewing a clockwork orange for the first time . the appearance of some of the previous artists of disinformation and the absence of the soft sell mps suggests there is somthing quite uncosy going on .

    meanwhile world finances are having a bit of turmoil , one french bank dropped 20% at one point , and germanys second largest bank has had its quarterly profits wiped out by greek debt exposure , jeremy warner and dan hannah making some admirable points about the imbalances . very interesting stuff that an equation is pushing a relentless search for who has profit in an interelated web of debt , not really run by politicians , or at least by politicians who made out with the tax payer picking up the tab there would be no problem .
    It is clear that the UKs troubles lie very much with labours polices , the debt is withholding/imparing the use of tools to rebalance and bring about growth, the lies about work and immigrations effects are affecting the people who have had to have the handouts and the breakdown of marriage and family in the face of corporate socilaist fabian eternal consumer happiness (which the lib dems have never opposed) is about time .

    we are paying for both the debt labour run up in this country and it would seem the ones socialists run up in other countries , the EU has not made any cuts and indeed has asked for an increase in contributions .

    being a blogger it is hard not ot make purile remarks sometimes , daily mashs take on men turning to gay relationships to avoid child costs , perhaps said more about labour spin than they realised , we have the worst looting (not riots) in history , a near trashed stock of vital values , a transient feckless mental attitude and indivdidualist disaster all grown under labour .

    Still if Ed balls makes his team america world conference speech we shall truly know we have entered a very wonk and scary world .So what eh ! or is it so weak (a recovery)

  107. 416
    Barnabas Scudamore says:

    Diane Abbot on Newsnight – GOD THAT WOMAN IS A PAIN IN THE ARSE – the amount of times she mentioned “I” and “I’ve” and “my” and “mine”…….Labour still going down the cuts route.

    I really wish from the bottom of my heart that they’d made her the leader of labour……she makes Milliband look professional !

    About time they kicked her fat arse off the politics show as well. I never forget the time when she said to andrew neil “….oh, you people in this country, you treat your old people so badly……”

    I was gobsmacked, Mrs Barnabas Scudamore was gobsmacked.

    Yes, please someone get rid of her, and her racist views !

  108. 418
    albacore says:

    If they filmed today’s forthcoming piss and wind fest in Parliament and then released it as a movie, I wonder who’d get the best actor and best actress Oscars.
    And the best director?

  109. 421
    Anonymous says:

    these young people have put the face of england in a very real perspective. yes they don’t appear to care about what they do. but given all the wind expressed on blogs for years about mps and the state of the nation, these kids have provided the detail in sharp relief in a very public way..

    we have all acknowledged how difficult it must be to grow up in the country these days and in part we are responsible for that. but for kids with no hope what else can they do. they are expressing vividly the anger and resentment that adults have failed and the political systen has singularly failed to address in humanae ways

    the powers that be are more interested in setting people against each other; are more interested in declaring unjust wars with others and more interested in keeping everyone poor so that they can have power and privilege

    england is an out of control tyranny, a delinquent nation, an authoritarian backwater, a fascist state

    deal with it

  110. 427
    Baroness Thatcher says:

    David Cameron.

    About as much use as Stephen Hawking’s mountain bike

  111. 428
    Gordon Brown, Widdicombe, Rubber Chicken, Nurses Outfit, BBC says:

    “The website claimed that Mr Brown was forced to come clean after discovering that details of the affair were due to be published in a newspaper, adding: “It is believed that the unnamed tabloid paper had obtained pictures of the couple in an embarrassing role-playing situation involving a rubber chicken and a nurse’s outfit.”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/8694244/BBC-unamused-by-hoax-site-claiming-Brown-affair.html

  112. 432
    Transferring data from polldaddy.com says:

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz etc.

  113. 436
    Old Tory Bigot says:

    Graun finds picture of token non white person with broom…

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/09/clean-up-riots#start-of-comments

    There he is look. Right in the middle.

    Now if I were a cynic…

    • 437
      Old Tory Bigot says:

      Oh I see an earlier comment remarks:

      “can’t see a single bla’ck person in the picture that accompanies this article. Address the underlying issues or end up becoming full-time road sweepers. The middle classes of Hackney on the move. How sweet.”

      They obviously sent out a photographer to remedy the situation.

      How very Guardian.


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