August 9th, 2011

Tory Councillor Says Let The Rioters Go Free

That’s not a headline Guido ever expected to write. Les Lawrence, who is in charge of kids and yoof for Birmingham Council, has said those trashing his city centre, stealing anything that wasn’t nailed down and generally causing mayhem, should be spared punishment. It seems he got the hug a hoodie memo about five years too late. Instead of locking up rioters, Lawrence wants the police to take away their X-Boxes and TVs. Presumably their old ones as well as the ones that they stole yesterday?

Coincidently the Tory councillor’s partner is the delectable Chris Keates, General Secretary of the NASUWT union…


238 Comments

  1. 1
    AC1 says:

    Epic Fail.

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    • 14
      Twitering ed says:

      Take away their ASBO’s, that will show them.

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      • 36
        Throg_lodge says:

        Don’t jail ‘em. Hang ‘em.

        That’s what happened when the Riot Act was in force.

        Bring it back I say!

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        • 41
          Hugh Janus says:

          Shoot just one looter and – problem solved.

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          • BBC Controller says:

            Oh dear…

            We are terribly conflicted about this chap.

            The world can be very confusing at times.

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          • labour just filth just filth says:

            not good to shoot ‘em but perhaps breaking a few limbs when they’re helped into the back of the police van would be good.

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          • low resolution fox says:

            I would never say that illegal immigrants are the problem, honestly I feel sorry for the poor fellows. Most of them I’ve met have been decent enough people, definitely harder working than I will ever be. But “the system” is retarded. A friend used to work in a asylum related job, and explained a usual process:

            Enter the country for economic purposes

            Arrested for suspicion of being illegal immigrant

            Usually put up in a B&B due to not being able to prove you’re an illegal immigrant, giving you ample time to disappear during the night, or usually straight after breakfast

            If not, await your interview and the lawyers get involved, plead amnesty. Lawyers fees … astronomical as always. Lawyers approve of said process.

            Housed in social housing, usual cost .. high as usual.

            Unemployment benefit of £40 per week to spend on food/whatever (housing bills usually taken care of). This will buy you food for the week, or about 8 pints of beer at London rates.

            Often these people come from war torn countries, with poor education and often grow up in Africa hunting with knives.

            The law looks more kindly on immigrants with children, particularly if you find any dumb man or women to get into a relationship with you at the same time. Find one, proceed to go, collect your monopoly money.

            During this whole period, which may last 1-6 years. You are not legally entitled to work at all. If you do, you sell drugs, your body, or work 12 hours a day for practically nothing in takeaway restaurants.

            Once granted leave to remain in the country, leave the disgusting partner you desperately knocked up to fend for herself with kids. Go your own way, depending on your criminal background, either get a job or continue the old way as it pays more money.

            I presume the above is mostly why they’re angry. It is a stupid fucking system and primary benefactors are lawyers, social workers and property developers. Honestly in the above situation I would probably steal a microwave and I’m not sure I’d feel bad about it (note, I am comfortably middle class and a complete wimp)

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          • Anonymous says:

            Shooting will only incite the rioters as that’s what sparked this conflict in the first place.

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          Hang 'em High - REALLY High!! (own piano wire supplied) says:

          Haven’t I been saying that all along?

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          • MB. says:

            Be good to see a few of their bicycles driven over by police vans. They were virtually using the bicycles as offensives weapons. But I suppose they will just go and steal another bicycle.

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          • Iloathlefties says:

            How about imprisoning them, making them join the army as bomb disposal experts and send them to Afghanistan?

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        • 88
          rocknrolla says:

          Sick to death of limp-wristed lefties taking over the Tory party. I wish to God that there really was a “nasty party” to vote for, someone to vote for to have the strong be nasty on the side of the good; today to send the army in and absolutely crush these looters.

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        • 100
          rocknrolla says:

          The really bad thing is though had he said something remotely Tory – such as stop all immigration or revert to democracy by leaving the EU, old CastIron would have been ready to have him thrown out the party if the BBC and Guardian decided to whip up a twatter storm.

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      • 83
        labour just filth just filth says:

        send in the re-education squad from Labour HQ please sue thanks Gordon x

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      • 85
        annie nonmus says:

        Make them sit on the naughty step, they wont like that.

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        • 202
          Jethro's Social Worker says:

          85 – “they wont like that.” Just a minute: are you one of those Sadists – not, of course, that there’s anything at all wrong with Sadism, mind, and please don’t think I’m making any kind of value-judgement here – one of those evil sadists who believe in making people feel bad about things they’ve done? Surely, we’ve moved beyond this primitive, tribal urge to punish in any way! We need to get them to confront all the issues surrounding this whole complex of actions and emotions… Ultimately, ‘We are all guilty!’

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    • 17
      Anonymous says:

      Interesting thinking. Perhaps his reason is that if they get locked up the crims would get a cushy life, watching TV and playing on taxpayer-funded X-boxes so keeping them “outside” may be a greater punishment …

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      Anonymous says:

      There is no accounting for even tory stupidity.

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    • 29
      Get tough says:

      Don’t think he will be re-elected. If you do not have something worthwhile to say best to shut up.

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      • 235
        Fed Up With All The BS says:

        How very true! Here’s the governing fable:-

        Having eaten an entire bull, a mountain lion is so replete he lets out a loud roar of satisfaction and keeps roaring so that a hunter is attracted and shoots the lion dead.

        The moral: when full of bull, keep your mouth shut.

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    • 59
      Anonymous says:

      Is he an ethnic?

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    • 86
      MrAngry61 says:

      What a fuckin idiot – rioters don’t vote Tory, and neither will the outraged property owners in his ward.

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      • 119
        Admiral Leach says:

        Hmm I refer to my earlier post that any MP (or Councillor) who defends the actions of the rioters and seeks to prevent them from feeling the full force of the law once convicted should be deselected at once the party hierarchy. This chap needs to be made to retract or resign. Shame to Tory party has this type in it.

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      • 199
        Birmingham zzzzzz says:

        MrAngry, trust me this guy is not a Tory…not even a pretend one. He has form for talking utter bollards. The Tory group in Birmingham does not have sound Tory values, just look at the Leader, Mike Whitby. He has not implemented a single policy locally that could be considered Conservative. It’s a wanky Con/Lib Coalition…..ring any bells!!!!!

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    • 88
      horrorfan24 says:

      Typical bleeding heart liberals. They are the problem with this country. There has been too much carrot. It’s time for stick. When will these progressives realise that these underclass scum have a totally different mindset? The only thing that gets through to them is actual physical pain and having a big dose of fear injected into them. The softly softly approach doesn’t work!

      It’s these bleeding heart do-gooders that have turned this country into a sewer. Time for a huge change.

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      East Midlander says:

      Which sex is this delectable Chris, if known ?

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      • 124
        SaltPetre says:

        Female…but you would rather shag a dirty hole in the ground if you had the gift of sight!!

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    • 136
      genghiz the kahn says:

      Shurely ex Tory Councillor…

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      • 234
        Speedy Gonzales says:

        He’s up for election this year in what was until last May a safe Tory seat. Lawrence does SFA for three years out four, but the minute he’s in the firing line he starts campaigning.

        HE IS A DISGRACE.

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    • 194
      M says:

      I think it’s a great idear
      Then we could open a safari park for rich tourists to come over a see if they make a trophy out of a looter .
      Let’s call it “Bag A Chav”
      & in 2012 we could have Olympic “Chav bagging”

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    • 226
      Wing Commander says:

      Print his home address so that I can go round to his house and piddle through his letter box.

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    • 236
      Rob says:

      God help the kids and yoof he is in charge of. I used to be a Tory voter, never again.

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  2. 2
    mullioned vino says:

    keeping hugging the hoodies

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    • 105
      labour just filth just filth says:

      then hit ‘em with the baseball bat…although in my humble opinion a one iron does allow slightly better control of the wound depth particularly if you roll your right hand over the club and move the head closer to the front foot. make sure you follow through just to make sure you get ‘em square on the sweet spot….with determined practice hospital stays will be generally protracted.

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      • 113
        East Midlander says:

        Dear oh dear what a waste of a perfectly good golf club, a tyre iron should be sufficient.

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        • 135
          Another Engineer says:

          A 1-iron is unsuitable for hitting a golf ball, though. Unless you are Sandy Lyle.

          Does anyone use them now?

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          • fore....... says:

            it doesn’t seem to damage mine and yes I do…as I no longer play that often I find it more accurate than a wood…it doesn’t encourage tv golf shots either so it tends to concentrate the mind.

            just behind the left ear does that too..careful not to shank thats a scalp gone too if you do.

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          • A Pensioner says:

            Very hard to hit a 1-iron, and difficult to purchase – usually specially made. John Daly is a 1-iron man. Personally, I don’t do lower than 3. I then use a Callaway 3-wood with a small head – come to think of it, that would be the perfect tool for this job. Know as the “gentleman’s driver”.

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      • 127
        Dr Dilshan Milibandedarmadillo says:

        We don’t want the buggers in here, thank you very much and twice on Friday.

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      • 153
        Gonk says:

        A cricket bat would be my preference.
        Although I also have a small petrol hedge trimmer
        which would be an interesting and rather inventive
        choice, don’t you think ? It’s two stroke.

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  3. 3
    Labour In Da Nile. says:

    has the world gone mad.

    send them to bed without dinner too.

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    • 44
      pigs in space says:

      that’s far too harsh, maybe a few minutes on the naughty step, and no gold star on the good behaviour chart

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    • 107
      Nemo says:

      Wasn’t there a get out from from serving porridge in times of war, they could do their porridge or they could serve time in the forces, they should be very good at using fire and explosives on the front line it would frighten the Taliban they would not seen anything like it before.

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      • 129
        Anonymous says:

        Use them as drones for clearing minefields?

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      • 148
        Major Eyeswater says:

        Rioters tend to be rather cowardly when the boys go in. Then they burst into tears once they’re in the back of the van. Hardest thing is to catch ‘em – they tend to be quite quick on their shiny Nike wheels – however a baton round will often do the job.

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  4. 4
    Peter Grimes says:

    That’s it, UKIP for me at the next GE!

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    • 15
      Sophie says:

      What kept you?

      Welcome to the home of true Conservative values.

      Blue Labour out.

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      • 48
        Prescott's chipolata says:

        Me too. Especially after watching that performance from Milliband this afternoon – all that spittle and foaming. Very nasty and unappealing. I could forgive the lisping but all that spitting is hideous.

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  5. 5

    I assure you ALL Tory councillors didn’t say that.

    http://www.stevetierney.org/blog/?p=2969

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  6. 6

    Love it. They will get out anyone, Police Bail, no charge. Criminal Protection Service will not have enough to charge them or will not bother, too many people willing to say it wasn’t them.

    This country is screwed http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14458424

    Education, Education, Education and look what it has gotten us!

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    You Must Be Fucking Mad says:

    there’s someone i know, multimillionaire landowner lives abroad to avoid taxes, has homes in australia, south africa and ireland as well who is quite happy letting the house of a neighbour flood each year because he won’t deal with the drains from his fields and the drainage of the lane that accesses his house.

    he causes damage on a frequent basis and he goes free

    what’s the difference?

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    • 18
      labourunionsbbc we are one says:

      Not T. Bliar, is it?

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    • 19
      Anonymous says:

      He should be prosecuted too. So what’s his name?

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    • 21
      Sophie says:

      Someone you know, yeah – right.

      Please let the old lady behind you have a go on the internet – its her library too you know.

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    • 22
      mullioned vino says:

      Thought you were talking about my neighbour for a moment but he’s a busted flush and his trustees are selling the Estate.

      There is no difference. Odious unpleasant people who will shortly be entering the real world.

      My charmless neighbour was on some BBC documentary years ago about modern Britain. Filmed in his dining room being racist to his guest, a young black chap.

      There is no difference as you say. They are one of the same.

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    • 56
      Anonymous says:

      The neighbour’s local authority have the right to rectify the problem and send ‘the multimillionaire’ the bill. Get on it.

      Unless it all happened this morning when you were laying down?

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    • 163
      misterned says:

      How does a selfish old millionaire’s unlawful activity condone the rioting of other selfish people in London and elsewhere?

      They are all breaking the law.

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    • 173
      eeu to me says:

      The goverment are nationalising all the drains that feed different properties up to the property and making the water companies responsible for them, this includes all private drains, got a letter the other day from the water company saying so in 2014.

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  8. 8
    Adam says:

    He’s not a Tory with that beard.

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    • 68
      Dismay and Despair says:

      He’s not a tory full stop, he’s just masquerading as one to get elected.

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      • 165
        Archer Karcher says:

        Lot of this maquerading malarky going on these days. It goes right to the top of the Tory party you know.

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  9. 9
    Anonymous says:

    Fucking twat.

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  10. 10
    Arthur Haynes (Comedian) says:

    L for looser.

    SPG snatch squads on the streets of London tonight. Put these thugs in order.

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  11. 11
    Great Granddad says:

    A Councillor taking that position in public should himself be put in prison. Aiding the enemy.

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      sockpuppet #4 says:

      Perhaps we could set him free by changing the headline and making the letters bigger and redder, saying:

      “Make the parents responsible”

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  12. 12
    sockpuppet #4 says:

    A little bit of quote mining there. he does say “children”.

    He also has other things to do with the under 16’s.
    First on his list is the rather sensible:
    “We have never really tackled parental responsibility in relation to the criminal activity of those under the age of 16. In my view, action should be taken against the parents as being complicit.”

    Sounds like I’m talking about someone completely different there dunnit?

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  13. 13
    Ivor Tapeworm says:

    The chiefs of the Met have resigned over corruption, and MPs & bankers have been shown to be the biggest thieves of all. The next few generations in the UK will be paying for all the borrowed money that has been pissed away – if they can get a job – and we wonder why they think crime pays? We wonder why they are pissed off?

    Like a fish, the UK is rotting from the head down.

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    • 40
      MAD FRANKIE HADDOCK son of COD says:

      Lets be honest most of the fuckers wouldn’t drag their drug addled arse’s out of bed if you begged them to take a job
      It’s a lifestyle choice
      lie in the pit till afternoon, go out at night and steal off the daft fuckers who have grafted all day to pay their dole
      Oh and breed at every opotunity !

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    • 55
      John Smith says:

      One consolation is that although they may be old men at the time, they can still be dragged out of their homes and off to either holding cells or into the hands of an enraged population. Since we have no choice but to wait, we will have to learn the virtue of patience.

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  14. 16
    Johnson1966 says:

    string them up by their balls and the councillor

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  15. 20
    Eileen Critchley says:

    The New Labour generation know their rights but reject their responsibilities. Its what they’ve been taught by a state education system controlled by the Left.

    Yes, the riots are the fault of the Left.

    Yes, this is the fault of those liberal champagne guzzling chattering classes.

    Socialism does not deliver a better society.

    So we must all do our bit to politically neutralise its exponents in all of the key areas of our lives; education, health, media, welfare. We must cut out this cancer once and for all.

    These riots and New Labour’s track record in government have again proved that they have no right to use the word ‘progressive’ to describe their ideas.

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  16. 23
    Sir Robert Peel says:

    What a twat!

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  17. 25
    MAD FRANKIE HADDOCK son of COD says:

    He is obviously Blowing Ken Clarke !

    Resign now !

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  18. 28
    Crikey says:

    Yes indeed, this sort of approach is really working!! Isn’t it?

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  19. 30
    Ukip if you want says:

    Specsavers?

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  20. 31
    kermit the frog says:

    “delectable Chris Keates”

    What! The one that looks like Miss Piggy?

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  21. 32
    Anonymous says:

    Yet another pretend Tory

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  22. 33
    Sophie says:

    It is time to start the process of assessing black communities in the UK for repatriation to their ancestral homelands – Mother Africa.

    Life is obviously not working out for them here in Great Britain & they would in my view be much more content returning to their roots.

    Liberal immigration policy has disenfranchised these black communities from their heritage & culture – & robbed their ancestral homelands of the rich talent that lies frustrated in these folks whilst they languish here in Great Britain.

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    • 38
      Sophie says:

      Repatriation?

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      • 43
        Sophie says:

        Ancestral homelands?

        What is the modded word that irks?

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        • 45
          Sophie says:

          Roots?

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          • Sophie says:

            Liberal immigration policy has disenfranchised these black communities from their heritage & culture – & robbed their ancestral homelands of the rich talent that lies frustrated in these folks whilst they languish here in Great Britain.

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        • 121
          labour just filth just filth says:

          basically Sophie the best idea is to tell them to fuck off and show them the exit…and if they come back….. shoot the scum…thats a robust repatriation policy in practice.

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    • 64
      Sophie says:

      Ok, I give in – what word is it that is getting me modded?

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    • 154
      MAD FRANKIE HADDOCK son of COD says:

      No cause theres no dixons or currys in the african bush

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    • 170
      John Smith says:

      I don’t think repatriation will work, Sophie. It might be better to just start embracing our multi-ethnic future and allow all of the burgeoning micro-states and cultures in the UK to do their own thing. In Africa, for example, when children step out of line they are violently beaten by their parents or elders. Within their culture, this works out well for them.

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  23. 34
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Someone help!!!!!

    FFS what has this once great country come too?

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  24. 35
    Thats News says:

    I never realised councillor Lawrence was a Zombie.

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  25. 39
    Big Dan says:

    Gweeds, are you hoping to get a column in the Mail or are you on holiday and just phoning this reactionary toss in?

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    • 53
      WVM says:

      Fuck off tourist.

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    • 69
      SpAd says:

      The minute the Daily Mail is mentioned in a comment I immediately click past it.

      People who refer to something as being “like the Daily Mail” invariably chuck round excerpts from the rest of the left-wing shibboleth lexicon – “progressive”, “Thatcher”, “cuts” etc etc – a clear indicator that what they consider to be political insight is little more than a sack of worn cliches.

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      • 84
        sockpuppet #4 says:

        “be outraged and ignore parts of the story”.

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        • 180
          Archer Karcher says:

          It’s ignoring that has largely brought us to where we are and no amount of ignoring will make the problem go away, or get any better.

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  26. 46
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    The only thing i can conclude from this that we are well and truly FUCKED.

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  27. 50
    Frank says:

    Wait a minute – read what this guy ACTUALLY said. Guido’s obviously trying to have a go at a Tory for balance here, but it’s tenuous.

    Briefly, WHS was:

    1) Don’t lock’em up – it’ll only make them worse.
    2) Make them clean up the mess they made.
    3) The parents should be held to account.
    4) Seize their property – that might hurt.

    He does NOT say they “should be spared punishment”, just that the simple idea of locking them up isn’t working. IMO he has a point. If you want a loony lefty perspective stick to Camila “it’s society’s fault” Batmanghelidjh.

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    • 58
      sockpuppet #4 says:

      It doesnt give his original quote either, rendering it to being not keen on:
      “sending large numbers of children to custody “

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    • 63
      non starter says:

      Except you can’t change the applicable law after the event.

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      • 231
        Duc de Blangis says:

        It is certainly possible to override the Common Law principle your comment cites, but Parliament is generally reluctant to do so.

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    • 81
      AC1 says:

      You just hit random keys on the keyboard to get that name.

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    • 134
      MrAngry61 says:

      Holding the parents to account only works if
      1) They exist
      2) and have any positive control over their offspring
      3) and have any property worth seizing.

      Since the youf are already smashin’ and grabbin’, I would suggest that at least one of the above conditions is absent.

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      • 169
        Afghanistan Banana Stand says:

        ^^^^ @134

        …and even if there was property worth seizing, wouldn’t the little shits just go smashin’ ‘n’ grabbin’ to replace it?

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        • 186
          Archer Karcher says:

          Of course they would.
          Only people legally in possession of assets would be affected and generally, they are not the problem. So the end result would mean even more criminal behaviour, to replace ‘stuff’ the state has expropriated.

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  28. 52
    Jimmy says:

    Soft On Crime. Soft On The Causes Of Crime.

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    • 95
      Sophie says:

      Very good.

      Labour flood the country with Somali’s then wonder why the rape, murder & robbery rates in their new home areas goes through the roof.

      Go figure.

      Soon enough we will see these Labour voting immigrants sitting under trees in Hyde Park with AK47s to make them feel right at home.

      Well done Jimmy, you must be so proud of your ideologies achievements.

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      • 102
        Jimmy says:

        Yes, this is all down to Somali asylum seekers.
        At least you have them sitting under trees rather than swinging from them. I suppose that’s progress of sorts.

        Always fascinating to get the mindless bigot perspective.

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    • 206
      Anonymous Bosch says:

      You mean Soft on Crime, Hard on the Victims of Crime.

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  29. 57
    Fucking man up, Cameron! says:

    If Call Me Dave doesn’t call in the army, he should quit or be toppled.

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    • 71
      Slap the fuckers hard! says:

      Or have his crayons taken away?

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    • 112
      bergen says:

      It’s not that difficult to send in the army. The problem is getting them out afterwards.And a few years down the road trying to defend their actions which at the time may have seemed eminently reasonable.

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  30. 60
    Sophie says:

    Theresa May must resign.

    She is too weak, too Liberal & hopelessly out of her depth.

    No way can any Government allow such a weakling, one of many in Camerons Blue Labour, to fester in such a pivotal job.

    The gangs are laughing at her & her stupid inane comments.

    “Consensus Policing” – FFS.

    GO NOW WOMAN.

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    • 198
      MrAngry61 says:

      Her card’s numbered – if for no other reason than Dave disagrees with her insistence that the next head of the Met has to be a Brit.

      Bill Bratton has thrown his hat into the ring, and whilst he probably wouldn’t repeat the stellar results he achieved in NY/LA/Boston (as hoodies have to be hugged here) IMO he would probably outperform the shit that comprise ACPO. AND probably engender more respect in/observance of the law.

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    Should be workng harder! says:

    Perhaps Anders Brievik might like to pop over. He’s at a loose end at the moment. He was tremendously good with young people, I believe he potted about 65 of them.

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  32. 65

    He didn’t say they should be spared punishment, did he.

    Short custodial sentences mean nothing to a kid, they just run up a huge bill for the taxpayer.

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    • 190
      Archer Karcher says:

      Err, I think you will find that short custodial sentences in our laughably named prison and detention service are little more than paid holidays. Criminals should fear prison and rightly so, not laugh at it and take the piss.

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  33. 70
    Enough! says:

    The answer, is Jane Pilgrim.

    Simples.

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  34. 72
    Ramrod says:

    Lock them up and they’ll find satellite TV and Xbox machines in their prison

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    BBC News says:

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    • 103
      Stinkfinger says:

      30 years Darkus Howe has been talking shit but the BBC have lapped it up.
      After today’s performance I hope even they can see the massive chip on on this bitter and twisted crazy old bastards shoulder.

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

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    trogdolyte says:

    Dismiss The Home Secretary and all senior Met policemen today. Replace May with David Davis and the police with provincial Inspectors , if any real ones are left, and order them to stop the riots any way they can. Give them 48 hours or declare martial law.
    With Cameron in charge this will never happen. He is out of his depth as he was always going to be.

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  38. 76
    Moussa Koussa says:

    Truly amazing …a Tory councillor and supporter makes this claim himself…. and its NASUWT fault…wow

    Errrrrrr Lock em all up.

    First under a Tory gov you won’t catch them all, not enough resources.
    Then under a Tory gov will be unable to prosecute efficiently , closed all the magistrate courts.
    Then under a Tory gov they would only get a light sentence
    Then under a Tory gov, if given a jail sentence will only serve ¼ of it

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    • 158
      Moussa Koussa says:

      Sorry folks, it’s my addiction to crack and molesting chickens that causes me to post this horse shit.

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    • 224
      Anonymous says:

      Truly amazing …a bunch of rioters, communicating using the latest high-tech expensive Western technology, go on the rampage to loot and steal more high-tech Western technology, and Ken blames Tory cuts…. wow.

      And the cuts haven’t even happened yet… double wow.
      They’re not exactly stealing food to fill their hungry bellies, you know.

      Feel free any time you wish to condemn apologist Ken.

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  39. 77
    Loungelizard says:

    This is an opportunity for the Tories to take a stand and do what the electors voted them in to do ie cut away thirteen years of dross and get the country back on course. Why do I think their going to blow it. Please God prove me wrong!

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    • 111
      Redditch Raven says:

      One thing I can tell you is that the voters of Birmingham and surrounding areas don’t think like Councillor Lawson…the majority would like to string the little bastards up by their balls from the top of The Bullring Car park…methinks that a grovelling clarification statement could soon be about to be produced oin the local press/tv and radio

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  40. 78
    Slap the fuckers hard! - then some more! says:

    So Tory Twat says let the fuckers go free.

    Hang on a mo.

    What else to do with them?

    No prisons

    No birching

    No hanging

    No hard labour

    no stocks

    no cruel and unusual punishments

    no deportation

    no fuckin nothing of any use!!

    Ah – I know – a kown-slur, – the LieBore Religion.

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    • 116
      Aaron D Highside says:

      It may be that some part of the blogosphere would be improved by the contributions of a socialist mental lightweight with Tourette’s. It’s hard to imagine, though.

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  41. 80
    Gonk says:

    Dear Les,
    As you’ve been such a success influencing
    young people in Birmingham, in a positive creative way.
    We’ve decided to offer you a 10 year fully paid sabbatical
    as a goat farmer on Rockall. Please say yes.

    Regards,

    Everyone in Britain

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  42. 82
    Johann Hari says:

    What we are seeing, in the sluggish and unprepared reaction of the police and political class to these events, compounded by their serial failure to grasp from previous such disturbances just what is going on here, is a catastrophic combination of professional inertia and incompetence, serial eyes off the ball, paralysing political correctness, an apparent reluctance to identify, name and deal with subversive activity, a capital’s police force in systemic disarray, a criminal justice system that has become an insulting joke, a refusal from the top to draw clear lines in the sand and to exercise moral and political leadership, a pandering instead to mob rule, tyro politicians who have never had a grown-up job and couldn’t run the proverbial whelk-stall let alone get a grip on a culture teetering on the edge of the cliff, a third-rate civil service machine that no longer can be relied on to keep the show on the road, a culture of narcissistic selfishness on an epic scale and a general breakdown in education, morality and elementary codes of civilised behaviour, much of it deliberately willed on for the past three decades by a grossly irresponsible and politically motivated intelligentsia that set out to smash the West.

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    • 232
      Quantrill says:

      Add to that the laughable sight of overweight female CPOs waddling about in riot gear. At 5 feet nothing I can see the rioters will be really scared of them. Makes the “snatch squads” look pathetic. Most of them can barely run anway. According to some idiot Senior Police Officer on radio 4, the reduction in London rioting last night was down to the naff statement made by the IPCC yesterday about Duggan. Nothing to do with 16,000 police officers then?????

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  43. 92
    Sir William Waad says:

    Mr Lawrence’s other proposals were use rioters’ parents as whipping-boys or to make the rioters repair the damage they have done, which would requre an intensive course in glazing and shop-fitting.

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  44. 93
    Gordon Brown says:

    this evening I will be playing my Tupperware drums

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  45. 97
    It's okay now! says:

    Lynne Featherstone trying to show serious, stern leadership was amusing. Then Simon Hughes had a go and I chuckled. Then Teresa made me laugh aloud. Then Rusty Dave stuck his chin out to try and look like Churchill. You gotta laugh.

    But now Boris is here! He’s so much better at faking sincerity. And he can remind us of how much better it will be when we have a few million Turkish immigrants come here to help us.

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    • 115
      I don't like Darcus Howe so I must be a racist says:

      The Turkish and Asian areas seem to be the only ones standing up to the rioters.
      Shame they had to form their own vigilante groups to do it, but that’s what law & order in this country has come to.

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  46. 104
    Attila the Nun says:

    useless tories..soft on crime..soft on the punishment of crime.

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  47. 106
    Mike Hunt says:

    Quite right, don’t gaol the cunts – fucking deport them back to Somalia, Jamaica, Nigeria etc.

    Why should we be wasting our money keeping them locked up here.

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  48. 114
    a humble prole says:

    As they said as the Roman empire went into meltdown: “Qui desiderat pacem praeparet bellum” – If you want peace prepare for war…

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    • 221
      Anonymous says:

      What they said as the Roman empire went into meltdown was ‘I don’t give a shit, the rich have stolen the money anyway’ but in Latin, or possibly German.

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  49. 117
    Gordon Brown says:

    This could never happen in Kirkcaldy. The offies are all armour-plated and guarded by armed rottweilers and all the other premises are charity shops.

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  50. 120
    K-Bab says:

    The problem with Labour is that it is chips with everything

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  51. 122
    nell says:

    Lazy man can’t even be bothered to shave.

    And regardless of his politics, with those views he isn’t fit to be a councillor.

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  52. 125
    hacker of the yard says:

    police issue the first photographs of those they think are responsible for the riots

    http://www.politician-pictures.com/uk_politicians.html

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  53. 128
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Hang on Guido!

    This sounds like a “Eye for a eye” policy, Isnt some other “Tory” Proposing that for parts of the justice system?

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  54. 131
    Moussa Koussa says:

    Here’s Sophie with her latest weapon to sort out the rioters:

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  55. 132
    Stinkfinger says:

    Being born in the late 60’s my generation was probably the last to see teachers whacking kids and the first to see kids whacking teachers.
    Here we are now 30 odd years later. ‘Lord of the Flies’.
    Another 30 years or less ‘Mad fucking Max’.

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  56. 133
    Truthteller says:

    Sky Channel 847 live coverage of Birmingham

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  57. 145
    Gary says:

    The delectable Chris Keates – you have got to be kidding. Have you checked her out on Google images? Hideous old trout more like.

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  58. 146
    What`s Happened To Our Country says:

    After listening to the large number of bleeding heart liberals on the TV & radio today bemoning the fact that these kids are deprived, ignored by society etc., I would like to think that somone is gathering the following information.
    Exactly how many charities\outreach groups\youth action workers & their like are active in the areas where all of this is taking place, as well as the amount of public money that has been pumped in there over the past 10 years or so. I think that woul prove interesting reading!!!!

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  59. 147
    labour just filth just filth says:

    I have a respect for Theresa May but frankly she could be bettered as home secretary… good solid brain but weak manner delivering cliched givens are not good listening when shes on the hoof.

    but who ?

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  60. 149
    Drop a Daisy cutter on the BBC says:

    Castrate the fuckers

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  61. 152
    Rise of the Planet of the Apes says:

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      tube-thumper says:

      fuck me i saw that one carry a telly down the street. Had his hood up though so i could be wrong.

      thing is it had trousers on but they were so low slung in the ass he seemed to be walking like a FUCKING MONKEY

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    • 175
      Ol' Blue Eyes says:

      Oh boy, are they releasing that the wrong week!

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  62. 155
    tube-thumper says:

    stop modding this fucking blog and let people say what they want about the colour of the fucks causing all this. or do you want to subscribe to the sort of PC crap that has fueled this

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  63. 156
    BOREDNOW says:

    I see that a local Poundland was raided.

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    • 162
      tube-thumper says:

      yes they also burned down joes chciken shack in ladbroke grove.

      what the fuck are they going to eat tonight

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  64. 161
    MAD FRANKIE HADDOCK son of COD says:

    Oh they were after designer good ,hi spec trainers and named brand clothing !
    So what the fuck were they looking for in Poundland ?

    just to be seen coming out of it would ruin your street cred !

    Twats !

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  65. 167
    Interesting Footage from RT says:

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      BOREDNOW says:

      Ah the old one-two. Charge with a riot shield drop it for a second , punch full force in the face. It’s not Official or PC but when all bets are off… Improvise.

      Or the personal favourite take off the helmet and bounce it off their face.

      Hearing some stuff that some of the whitey collaborators have been nicked were involved in the previous London adventures.

      Not looking good for UK Uncut and everyone else. Especially arm-chair leftie incitement commentators…

      Word is that youths tried to kick off in Glasgow tonight via facebook but were arrested after the public got to them first.

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  66. 171
    Cream Puff says:

    Suberb idea is to ship them all to a remote island in the artic, with no food or provisions, let them fend for themselves – very character building, add to the mix Anders Behring Breivik with a selection of weapons again with no food or provisions and tell him to fend for himself.
    Should be interesting to go back a year later, perhaps sell TV rights, show as the ultimate Big Brother

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  67. 177
    b34st says:

    Many years ago I had to cruise the streets back lanes of NI (mainly sitting in the back of a Fiat Super Mirafiori bored out of my mind) but was lucky enough on one occasion to see the RUC deal with some twats of a republican persusion
    Baton rounds at point blank
    Happy days

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  68. 182
    MrAngry61 says:

    16,000 Police on the streets of London.

    So, tonight the regions burn instead.

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  69. 184
    Knob Ed says:

    We need to get the hacking scandal back on the agenda. When these riots are linked to mass immigration and benefit addiction it could be really bad for Labour. Tell the BBC to start mentioning Coulson in their bulletins.

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  70. 191
    TGF UKIP says:

    “A man after my own heart who must go on the ‘A’ List without delay” said Dave.

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  71. 193
    Cargosquid says:

    We have this document over here across the pond that you can borrow. Its a list of God given rights and how they restrict government. The 2nd one, known as the 2nd Amendment, is very useful for this sort of thing.

    A few home defenders with shotguns and rifles would be of great assistance.

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  72. 200
    Mystick1 says:

    Going to be an interesting night. Trouble already in the middle of Manchester.

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  73. 201
    Armed says:

    During the 1992 L.A riots, the only thing holding backing some stores being destroyed were the owners displaying their rifles.

    http://armsurrey.blogspot.com/2011/08/dont-mess-with-korean-american-store.html

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  74. 203
    MAD FRANKIE HADDOCK son of COD says:

    Trouble so far in Salford precinct
    Manchester town center
    West Bromwich
    Wolverhampton
    Birmingham
    Canning town
    Leeds

    Dave You’ve got em quaking in their boots with your wishy washy speech this morning
    Not one thing has changed !
    16 police or 16,000 They are still standing there and watching peoples vehicles and property being ransacked and torched
    They might as well no be there

    Get a fucking grip man send in the military with live rounds
    while there is still something left to salvage
    FFS MAN UP !

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  75. 211
    LeMoot says:

    These riots are happening for generations you told an entire class of people it was ok to not work and take other people’s money.

    you told an entire class of people they were entitled to free stuff.

    you told an entire class of people what they did wasn’t their fault because they are “under privileged”.

    you told an entire class of people they didn’t have to be civil or productive because of their “culture”.

    You told an entite class of people that education was the preserve of the uncool, and that instead of aspiring to be a doctor, lawyer or engineer, it’s far cooler to aspire to be a rap star or a big brother contestant, and the quick riches those professions provide.

    What you are seeing is a bunch of spoiled entitled people that you created.

    Enjoy your fires Europe. You let the left in your countries create them.

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  76. 212
    bbc says not in living memory says:

    BBC said that there have not been riots like this ”not in living memory”.
    Oh yes there have. Bristol for one.

    My memory also goes to Enoch Powell making david frost look stupid on tv as well as sound stupid.
    Trying to recover from that drubbing, I remember frost got an extension to his tv programme. And got a further intellectual kicking for his trouble. OK, not that difficult to beat frost intellectually really.

    Powell’s comment was often perfect. He had one for all of us.
    Repent at Leisure.

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  77. 216
    Voice of Reason says:

    I make it clear I am not justifying the riots. However, if the government cut back on youth centres, jobs and education then perhaps it is not surprising that youths who have no jobs, no hope , no future and are set apart from society should react in such a way. It’s about time less was given to the uber rich and wanker/bankers and given to the dissaffected areas of society instead. 5% of the most richest people in this very unequal country control 85% of its wealth. So all you big Tory boys what do you expect these kids to do?

    Remember the greedy wanker/bankers and high society fraudsters are just as bad as any rioting kid.

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  78. 217
    Left at sea says:

    Oh dear. BBC cameraman assaulted and BBC van burnt out in Salford. Lessons are being learned. The thugs don’t respect Guardian readers.

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  79. 220
    BOREDNOW says:

    From today’s photos Does anybody reckon Ed Milliband looks like he has a guilty conscience? Aswell as being a dick.

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  80. 223
    Ex Libris says:

    DC needs to be very tough this time if his credibility is to survive.

    1. All night/weekend courts – next, please…
    2. Standard 5 yr sentence, no parole, and no visits .
    3. Prison ships moored off the North Pole, so escapees will either freeze to death or get eaten by the polar bears.
    4. Alternatively, Community Service in Afghanistan, in fluorescent boiler suits.
    5. Confiscation orders of parents’ goods and chattels and the withdrawal of benefits to make them take any job to eat. Or a version of community service in exchange for half benefits eg cleaning the London sewers from end to end with a toothbrush.
    6. Bring back public floggings for EVERY convicted rioter before being sent on to the North Pole or Afghanistan.
    7. Restore corporal punishment in schools, as well as Grammar Schools, so the bright sparks can get out of the ghettoes through decent education.
    8. Get out of the EU with immediate effect, so no Human Rights Legislation to be enslaved to. Limit communication to trade only, restore our fishing borders and patrol them properly and all ports with money saved from contributions. Make the UK as self supporting as possible for food.
    9. Limit Legal aid to victims only. All rioters to pay for any Brief from extra hours worked in the sewers by Mum and Dad.
    10. Get the ruddy water cannons going, and have a strict curfew for 6 months of anyone under 35 after 8 pm. Any transgression is 2 yrs in sewer cleaning, 7 days a week.
    11. Bring back National Service.
    12. The country would be very much behind you on most of the above, PM, so you could then call a snap election on the back of Millipede Minor wanting to hug a hoodie, and dump the LimpDums….

    People are nit going to put up with political inaction forever- if the rioters can be organized, so can the silent majority! Politicians forget their voters at their own peril. Time to relaim the country, PM….

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  81. 225
    Chancellor Mosley says:

    It is clear that the irresponsible websites have a large part to play in this.

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  82. 238
    TheREALGuyFawkes says:

    Is this moron’s corner or something?

    You’re all a little scared aren’t you – I don’t blame you, I would be too if I didn’t know why this happened and whether it’s going to happen again.

    I get it now, the right wing have to put everything ‘simply’ – which is why they make such elementary mistakes.

    Can’t wait for the next kick off – there is an army out there and it’s been preparing for some time….I mean you didn’t actually think that this was all arranged after tottenham do you?

    …it’s been in the planning for sometime – that was just a practice run.

    Your glorified prison system is about to be dismantled, can’t wait to hear the whines of the middle classes when you see what’s coming next.

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