July 27th, 2011

Piers de Résistance

Last night Piers Morgan claimed that his 2009 interview with Kirsty Young where he talked about phone-hacking was about generalities, not anything he himself had done. He repeated his bare-faced lie that he had never published anything knowingly based on “hacking”, which in this context is illegally listening in to mobile phone voicemails. So he denies what he said was what he said, relying on a slight ambiguity in Kirsty’s “money quote” question.

It has become, according to some US commentators, a question of Guido’s credibility versus Morgan’s credibility. That isn’t a contest Guido is ever going to lose. Guido has staked his reputation on his story that the Ulrika/Sven affair story that won Scoop of the Year in 2002 for his Daily Mirror paper was based on illegal voicemail interception. Guido has written testimony from a witness that Piers can’t dispute in any way. Himself.*
Piers is as he himself admits, cocky, that cocky quip is the nail in his coffin on hacking. His admission that

“it was the Daily Mirror, under my editorship, which exposed Sven’s fling with Ulrika Jonsson after learning of a similar message left by the then England manager on her phone”

leaves him no wriggle room. He admits publishing a prize winning story derived from a hacked voicemail intercept. Which is what Guido first claimed and Piers has lied about for weeks. He also aggressively called Louise Mensch MP a liar live on CNN, he owes her a massive apology or risks a defamation suit from her. It is over Piers, ‘fess up son. It is time for that live on CNN mea culpa…

*Source: Serialisation, by the Daily Mail, of God Bless America: Misadventures of a Big Mouth Brit: Diaries of an Englishman in the Land of the Free, bylined by Piers Morgan.


268 Comments

  1. 1
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    clean bowled!

    • 4
      Simon says:

      He’ll claim he didn’t know at the time that it was from hacked phones and only found out afterwards during writing his book.

      • 12
        Paul says:

        Wouldn’t help. He said recently that to the best of his knowledge he has never published anything hacked. Still looks like a lie to me.

      • 16
        Anonymous says:

        In fact, there are several possible scenarios.

        • 23

          None of which hold water. Sorry.

          Fair do Guido, I thought the Kirsty Young one could be spun out inconclusively, but that old son is straight on the middle stump.

          Anyway, anyone who was that close to the brown end of Brown must be all bad – Morgan ye sleazy Tw4t give it up!

        • 29
          Anonymous says:

          A member of the Cabinet has met executives from Rupert Murdoch’s empire once every three days on average since the Coalition was formed.

          http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/phone-hacking/8664425/Phone-hacking-ministers-meet-Rupert-Murdochs-News-Corp-every-three-days.html

          • Ed Ballsup says:

            So what!!

          • Anon says:

            Yawn. Bet Brown and Blair met News Corp every single day. But of course, there arn’t any records are there? Cameron is a boy scout compared to those pair of degenerates.

          • Anonymous says:

            Anon says: July 27, 2011 at 10:48 am

            Can you please link the site so every one else can see. Please don’t confuse lies with facts.

            Also Blair and Brown aren’t PM now and they are not going to be PM in future; they are past. Cameron is the current PM so the country need to know whether he is proper and fit to be the PM.

          • Andy says:

            So what! I meet my employers all the time

          • I hate 15 year old no nothings says:

            Fuck off you dreary twat.

          • Anon says:

            So, you think Cameron should be held accountable, but not Blair and Brown who were in charge of the country when all this phone hacking was actually going on, for 13 years??!!! Breathtaking hypocrisy.

          • Unelected Emperor Herman van Rompypumpy says:

            Anonymous says:
            July 27, 2011 at 10:57 am
            Cameron is the current PM so the country need to know whether he is proper and fit to be the PM.

            Dave is my humble servant and he’s performing admirably. Britain’s contributions to the EU have increased 75% on his watch, so far, paid for with your tax rises. This is good. What with the additional tens of billions in Euro bailouts he’s handed-over, I have no complaints.

          • misterned says:

            Yeah but the illegal hacking, illegal blagging and bribery of police happened when Blair and Brown were in power, backed by the labour supporting Murdoch press at that time.

            Trying to blame all that corrupt shit on Cameron now is utterly bullshit, but typical of the total disconnection from reality which all lefties seem to suffer from at the moment.

            Or are you suggesting that Murdoch was having secret meetings with a new back-bench opposition MP and taking orders from him, when they were at the same time fully backing the labour government and running unedited front-page stories written by the likes of Alistair Campbell?

            It is not for the likes of us to provide proof of meetings between the Brown, Blair and Murdoch.

            It is for the labour party itself to be as open as Cameron has been and publish all of their own dealings with the Murdochs when labour were in power when all the hacking at the labour supporting media and the politicised Met were taking bribes from the labour supporting press and all that colossal mountain of sleazy corruption was in full swing.

            I see labour supporters are now getting desperate as reality begins to dawn on them that the left wing media, the labour government and the politicised Met police were all in collusion in a vast sea of corruption and crime.

            All this will be given in evidence in good time in the various enquiries which are taking place in public, under oath show how deeply corrupt and disgusting these practices were an dhow deeply involved the labour party was.

          • Anonymous says:

            Anon says: July 27, 2011 at 11:04 am

            Not only Blair and Brown need to be made accountable Mrs T and Major as well. I do think there is a good chance Major was innocent and Brown was forced too.

            But none of them are current PM, so it has to start with Cameron.

          • Anonymous says:

            OH gawd, you are one santimonious little prick aren’t you? Now do one.

          • Anonymous says:

            Mark Oaten

          • Mark Oaten says:

            Oh yes!

          • misterned says:

            “Also Blair and Brown aren’t PM now and they are not going to be PM in future; they are past. Cameron is the current PM so the country need to know whether he is proper and fit to be the PM.”

            Based solely on the hacking issue and the sleaze and corruption of the interwoven relationships between corrupt media entities, corrupt police entities and corrupt government?

            The record shows that labour politicised the police and the civil service and helped to create the corruption which is now well publicised.

            The tory led coalition is taking action to clean up that corrupt stinking shit heap which they inherited.

            So based on that, Cameron is far more of a fit and proper person to lead the country.

            If we look at how the Cameron Government are capitulating to overseas interests, giving in to the EU, spending billions and billions on foreign aid, etc. then there are really worrying questions for him to answer.

          • Anonymous says:

            misterned says: July 27, 2011 at 11:46 am

            “The tory led coalition is taking action to clean up that corrupt stinking shit heap which they inherited.”

            The problem is Cameron, Osborne, Hunt, Grove, etc are submerged in corrupt stinking shit heap. They should go and some one else who is clean should start the cleaning.

            There are number of Tories who can do it like David Davis, Clarke, May, etc, who are clean.

          • Lord Stansted says:

            The Police are not accepting bribes today, they are too busy arresting 72-year old shopkeepers for defending themselves against robbers..

            http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2019263/Manchester-shopkeeper-72-arrested-attempted-murder-bungled-raid.html

          • misterned says:

            I am loving how Jon Stewart takes this on…

            http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/helen-lewis-hasteley/2011/07/commons-shows-stewart

            But embarrassed that we in the UK cannot see it for ourselves.

      • 92
        I don't need no doctor says:

        How well did he check his source?

    • 5
      Spartacus says:

      What sort of time is this to start the blog?
      GF must be recovering from a hangover this morning.

    • 6
      Harold Wilson in a mac says:

      And you would still give that not out Billy

    • 14
      Piers says:

      This is the most humble day of my life.

      • 21
        A lying cheating two-faced snot-nosed thieving arrogant fucker, who incidentally saved the world says:

        I would like to make clear to the House that I was never invited – or attended – any pyjama parties held by the international newspaper magnate whose name I will never ever mention again – or again invite to my house.

        • 24
          Rupert Murdoch says:

          Don’t worry, you’ve served your purpose.

        • 54
          Anon says:

          OK Gordon.

        • 65
          Grumpy Old Man says:

          It wasn’t your house – you squatted in it until you were evicted by the rightful owners.

        • 99
          I don't need no doctor says:

          No one in their right mind would visit you or ever employ you. The mind boggles if anyone does. You are a liar and a scumbag.

        • 209
          Anonymous says:

          Technically correct: you didn’t attend any pyjama parties held by NI executives; but at least one NI executive attended a pyjama party held by YOU.

      • 221
        statechaos says:

        Wikipedia states that Piers ‘quickly gained notoriety for his invasive , thrusting style’. I rest my case.

    • 19
      Blah says:

      It’s an admission that isn’t an admission. Enough for us to go “ah-ha!” but also enough for any decent lawyer to argue proved nothing.

      Apologise? I couldn’t see it. I was expecting more, if I’m honest.

      • 27
        Another Engineer says:

        Does it matter what the lawyer says? What about the court of public opinion?

        Its enough for CNN to put him to the bin, there to be rummaged with by the other tabloids. A pity the NOTW doesn’t exist any more…

      • 123
        Anonymous says:

        Er… Coulson was arrested on suspicion of knowing about hacking, nothing proven yet. What’s the difference in Morgans case?

        • 168
          @camilla_saurus says:

          Absolutely. Piers should be arrested, then…er…released without charge just like everyone else involved in this sordid affair.

          • misterned says:

            The difference is that the BBC and the labour party and their fuckwit acolytes have had three weeks of over the top, hysterical prime-time cross-media high profile trial-by-media and ‘truth be damned’ about Coulson and Cameron, but they have ignored all the far more guilt-ridden exploits of their own left wing accomplices in this whole sordid scandal.

            Had the NoW and the Mirror Group and Daily Mail et al and all the allegedly complicit labour cronies received the same treatment based on the evidence, then I would not be complaining. But all the shit was carried out on labour’s watch, by labour supporting media and the labour controlled state police and they were all in it together, yet the BBC and the rest of the media are trying with some degree of desperation to solely dump it all on Cameron, Coulson and Murdoch.

          • Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

            Kevin Maguire has never been punished for his role in the Balls/Watson/MacBride hacking scandal.

          • Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

            Should of course be smearing scandal

          • Hiram N Fireman says:

            Or perhaps both, Lady Virginia. Some say that Balls, Watson et al were up to their goolies in receiving information garnered from ‘hacking’. I have even heard it said that Toilets ‘encouraged’ people to target certain people on whom it would be useful for McBride, Draper, Balls, Watson (and, of course Gordon Brown) to have ‘dirt’. A chap told me that Gordon Brown blackmailed his way to power for 30 years and would have never been allowed to lead Labour if people in his own party were not very afraid of him.

            How astonishing it would be if Watson had also ‘encouraged’ people in NI to ‘hack’ phones. That would make him a hypocrite, would it not?

          • Labours Boardwalk Empire says:

            Its time to have a fresh look at Gordon Browns involvement in the Gordon MCMaster affair.

    • 57
      The voice of a prolific LIAR. says:

      Listening to that Desert Island discs recording, I thought that voice sounds familiar. Then I realised he sounds just like Alastair Campbell.

    • 106
      Morgan's Organ says:

      A spokesman for Mr Morgan says that his career is based on leaving enough slime on the greasy poles he climbs so that there are always enough dead bodies below to break his fall.

    • 120
      Ed Balls Third Slip says:

      Is it true that Andy Coulson is opening the batting for England in the next Test Match?

    • 142
      PM says:

      I’m really looking forward to ‘The Insider’ doing a stretch inside.

    • 158
      Anonymous says:

      At the time of this reply, the score was 36-1. Who’s the dickhead?

  2. 2
    Spartacus says:

    I wondered why my tax bill was so high then I read this.
    Spanish Indignants start long protest march to Brussels
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14302607

    Spain’s unemployment rate is the highest in the EU, at 21.3%.
    For the under-25s, it has risen to 44.6%.

    So apart from all the:-
    immigrants getting elevated pensions at my expense
    pregnant Nigerians coming here to get citizenship
    Americans suddenly getting a heart flutter when they reach Heathrow (the free to them check-up more than paying for their holiday)
    40 percent confiscation of wealth
    20 percent luxury tax, renamed vat
    unemployed in Britain sorry meant uk
    council tax
    petrol tax
    and on and on

    I am paying for spanish loafers (walking to Brussels – get it?)

  3. 3
    vircantium says:

    Good work Guido. Now let’s see the little sh*t wriggle out of this one.

    • 34
      Simon Cowell says:

      Wouldn’t it be deilicious if this blog was the downfall of this Labour supporting numptie?

  4. 7
    Anonymous says:

    Not proof of hacking. She could have told him of the message herself.

    • 31
      Barnehurst Bob says:

      Not proof that he hacked any phones. But proof he knew the press did and that the Ulrika/Sven story came from a message on Ulrika Jonssons phone. So who told him and how did they find out? Surley he’ll come out and clean this little misunderstanding up before people start jumping to conclusions.

      • 37
        I'm only asking says:

        I know that thieves steal – does that make me a thief?

      • 97
        Anonymous says:

        No proof that he knew the press did. At the moment is all conjecture.

        Either of the parties related to the call could have told him.
        Someone who was present when the call was made.
        Someone who present when the message was retrieved by her – she may have had it on speaker etc

        • 156
          Andy Coulson says:

          That’s exactly what my defence is. Only a matter of time before Piers can plead the same when he’s arrested.

        • 170
          @camilla_saurus says:

          But why then, if it were true that she told him about the message, would she have been so upset/furious etc at the publication of the story based on said message?
          Surely telling a news hack about a message on your phone is tantamount to giving an interview about the story? And so would refute her allegation that it was obtained by illegal means?
          Just sayin’……

        • 174
          @camilla_saurus says:

          Don’t know why people are so quick to conclude that Piers is innocent (until proven otherwise) and yet the same people (I’m generalising) are calling for Coulson’s head on a spike, Cameron’s resignation, and Murdoch’s ‘empire’ to be broken up.
          I know Sven/Ulrikakaka is no Milly Dowler case, but the process for getting the information is the same – listening to voicemails – and the process is what’s wrong. You can’t judge a crime by its victim.

    • 36

      Which she didn’t……. they both nearly sued him!

  5. 8
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Lampost for Morgon!!!!

  6. 9
    Postal Vote says:

    Morgan seems to have forgotten the rule that he who never lies does not need to remember what he said and when he said it.

  7. 10
    Abdelbaset al-Megrahi says:

    Salaam alaikum, everybody! I hope you are all well. I am feeling as fit as a flea and have just been to an exciting rally here in sunny Libya. I’m sorry you’re having such problems with this ‘phone hacking’ (something our media would never do!) but at least it takes your mind off worse things!

  8. 11
    Simon says:

    I hope that Louise Mensch solicitor has been sent the details, will Guildo get 10% of the damages in the US courts?

  9. 13
    Clarence says:

    Guido, a slightly pedantic point. I’d change these sentences, if I were you:

    “Which is what Guido first claimed and he has lied about for weeks. He also aggressively called Louise Mensch MP a liar live on CNN, he owes her a massive apology or risks a defamation suit from her.”

    They’re slightly ambiguous and suggest it is you who have been lying for weeks, calling Louise Bagshawe a liar, etc.

    • 28
      Ah! Monika says:

      ” Very” pedantic

      • 155
        Clarence says:

        ” Very” pedantic

        I wasn’t being pedantic for the sake of being pedantic. The sentence was ambiguous: it needed a tweak in case someone decided to, shall we say, quote it ‘out of context’.

        Most normal people know who was calling whom a liar, but lawyers are not normal people.

        Anyway, all is much clearer now.

    • 39
      Captain Bob says:

      I’d like to lie with Louise Bagshawe

    • 42
      Bled White Taxpayer says:

      Rather than change it, put in an “Update” in red font to make it clear “he” refers to Piers Morgan. That way no lawyer could claim Guido was changing the sense after the initial publication. The clarification is for purposes of comprehension, not changing who was lying.

  10. 15
    Comic Belief says:

    I couldn’t give a toss about hacking Ulrika’s phone. Piers is lying about it just as Andy Coulson lied about it.

    The difference here is that the Mirror hacked celebs, or nicked stories from papers that hacked celebs. The News Of The World hacked dead teenagers, soldiers, terrorist victims.

    That’s what brought the News Of The World down, not some kiss-and-voicemail.

    • 20
      Tax Payer says:

      The NotW story began as celeb hacking alone.

      The Mirror et al could well be involved in murkier stuff as well.

      • 71
        Bled White Taxpayer says:

        The Mirror had some faked photos of British soldiers apparently pissing on Iraqi prisoners, which was the matter that got Piers Morgan sacked IIRC. There was suspicion in the Army that this “story” was staged deliberately at the instigation of someone close to the media – the photos were professionally shot on a top end digital camera. I’m not alleging that “someone” was a Mirror employee, to be clear, but the underbelly of the gutter press rubs up against some pretty unsavoury characters.

        • 94
          Bled White Taxpayer says:

          Yep, here we go. It was not just the Army who were suspicious, although our coffee-house suspicions were more along the lines of a couple of TA lads being offered some folding to allow a photographer access to a TA base and a clean 4 tonner, and to be models for a photo session using TA kit and rifles (slightly different to regular rifles). Photog and/or middleman then did the deal with the Mirror, if it was not pre-arranged.

          http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3680327.stm

          Also classic line from the Regiment: “This regiment has seen off Louis X1V, Napoleon, Kaiser Bill, and Hitler. We do not think that Piers Morgan is going to give us a problem.”

        • 164
          Anonymous says:

          Who hacked the Paddington Rail Crash victims and tried to blag their medical records ?

          • Loss of short-term memory says:

            I’d forgotten about that, but remember it now you’ve jogged my memory. Which newspaper was implicated?

    • 46
      SouthEastVoter says:

      If the act of hacking a voicemail is illegal it does not matter who’s phone/ voicemail it is.

      The test of whether there is a public interest defense in committing the act is for a court to decide. Pier’s, Coulson and anybody else who is suspected in being involved should arrested, charged and brought to court.

      • 91
        Comic Belief says:

        Oh of course it matters, because people care one way or another. It’s an illegal but justifiable way to get a story, the end can justify the means, depending what the end is.

        If it had just been celeb hacking, the News Of The World would not have closed. Do you agree?

        • 205
          SouthEastVoter says:

          Justice is there for everone. Therefore it is for a court to decide not some cabal of Labour Officials, Labour supporting Police Chiefs, Labour supporting CPS officers, Labour Supporting Newspapers and the Labour Supporting BBC who to change their minds for political gain.

    • 95
      Tom Baldwin's Liebour Ajax supplier says:

      And which corrupt political party was in charge whilst this was going…the same one that still hires Dr K e ll y’s hacker and chief coke head Baldwin, fomer NI man to spin Red Ed’s nasal surgery….oh, and how fucking corrupt his party is!

    • 253
      @camilla_saurus says:

      You can’t judge the crime by the victim.

      “So what if a few celebs get hacked, I don’t care and it’s their own fault for not changing their pin/courting fame/leading scandalous lives” *cannot* then become “Shocking, they hacked a dead girl’s voicemail, they should all go to prison and rot”.

      The crime, hacking/intercepting private voicemails – is a crime *either* way.

  11. 17
    Piers for Fears says:

    Ah, but I was lying THEN. I’m telling the truth now. We actually found out about Sven and Ulrika through…er….give me a minute…..

  12. 18
    Phantom says:

    In the words of the famous headline…

    GOTCHA.

    Let’s see the BBC report that….. yeah right, then I woke up.

    • 58
      Mornington Crescent says:

      Exactly. What reaction from Miliwotsit, Broon, Watson, Labour, the Beeb, The Graun? Not a dickie bird.

  13. 25
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Game, set and match! oops, wrong game.

    • 78
      Grumpy Old Man says:

      Dear Billy. When you have nothing to say, say nothing. You’ll b e better off watching re-runs of LBW decisions.

  14. 26
    Anonymous says:

    Well done Guido; an excellent piece of investigative journalism!

  15. 30
    Harry de la fountain says:

    Perhaps Louise Mensch should ask Max Mosley to bankroll her action against Piers Morgan!!

    • 231
      Scrumpit Slappham and Slurp says:

      if I were Mensch’s lawyer I would not be advising a defamation suit against morgan….just what he would be able to hide behind until dealt with and
      playing into his well lined pockets. He has virtually no wriggle room left so
      would be lovely to see him crucified in due course.

  16. 32
    Archy Bishop of Canterbury says:

    One is most uncomfortable with all the attention being paid to the loyal and exceedingly truthful left-wing red-top and broad sheet newspapers. While not a regular reader of the red top, one feels certain that every line of words contain truth of an exceptional nature as penned by the finest journalists and sauces money can buy.

    Wicked international newspapers are of course a different, one might say, kettle of fish, – though in truth where fish enter the discussion I do not know – except he that sat in a boat referred to fishes and cooked them or did he catch them? .. I never can remember . .

    Let us pray, and in our intercessions, let us remember

    All those who work so hard at the EUSSR in Brussels and other places that they may be given grace, wisdom and ingenuity in drafting new taxes, laws and initiatives to both promulgate and combat global warming and other profitable scams.

    All those progressive socialists, those at the Grouniad, the BBC and the DM, who like myself, have a far-seeing vision into the future of our multi-culti society wherein we worship at the one true religion – what ever that may be, and however it is interpreted, – given that there are many shades of grey, and points of view – as befits those who are on a journey of discovery about their own search for …… for …. What was I praying about?

    • 192
      HRH Prince of Global Warming and Organic Farmin says:

      A exceptionally well-thought through sermon, Your Grace. Do have some organic cheese – it’s exceedingly good.

  17. 33
    Rt Hoon Tom Whatson MP, Penguin PEN says:

    Gimme P Arses yankee job and I will apologise to Louise forever.

    • 236
      TosserWatch says:

      listen bunter you should go back to thunderbirds auditions and forget a box spot….your political expediency and total amnesia of your own party’s responsibilty for having ignored two reports that there were problems worthy of investigation is breathtakingly arrogant.

  18. 35
    Anonymous says:

    fcuking champagne socialist – hope he does time.

    • 43
      Princess Po_face Polytwaddle, talking down at people from her ivory tower says:

      Hold a minute! – let’s not go there, – I’m a Sham Pain socialist!

      And I am always right! – I mean left – I mean left but right! – kno wot oi mean?

      Forbes! A glass of bolly if you please, – have we any left over from supper?

      • 62
        bergen says:

        There’s an article in the Gruaniad by someone lamenting withdrawal of state funding for some small local childcare scheme and wondering if a millionaire would help.

        Some unkind wag has suggested Polly Toynbee in the comments.

  19. 38
    Moshe Dayan says:

    BUSTED

    Presumably Question Time and all of the Guradian will be given over wholly to this issue in the same was as re NI and Milly Dolwer?

    • 53
      It's just Piers being Piers says:

      You know what the left will say don’t you? The same as they said about Prescott when he assaulted a member of the public with no fucking consequences or arrest, “he he, it’s just John being John you know.”

      • 63
        Cato Street Conspirator says:

        It was Blair who said that, not ‘the left’. ‘The left’ despise Blair, Prescott, Brown and the whole fucking crew.

        • 129
          It's just Piers being Piers says:

          Didn’t hear very many contrary voices from the left at the time tbh.

        • 159
          The Sheikh Of Arabeeee says:

          Fuck off. You’re all the fucking same. Wankers. Wankers. Wankers.

          Still persisting with that edgy, cool pseudonym I see. Conspiracy to murder someone whose political views differ from yours… did you do a little sex wee when you thought of it?

        • 176
          Archer Karcher says:

          Oh here we go again, the wrong kind of socialists and the wrong kind of socialism gag again.
          What is it with leftists, why do they always try the same old shit when the wheels inevitably fall off and socialism inevitably fails?
          The ‘it could have been fantastic if only’ routine, does not even begin to stand serious scrutiny.
          Face it, your belief system stinks, it has caused more pain, death, suffering and hardship since it’s inception, than anything known to mankind.

          Socialism is rotten and evil and by definition, so are it’s practitioners.

    • 66
      cort says:

      No one is/was remotely upset that the tabloids hacked into celebrities’ phones. It was only when it emerged that they had been hacking into their readership’s phones that the issue really blew up. Morgan is very smug, and deserves to be hung out to dry, but it is only if it is shown that the Mirror hacked into the phones of everyday people (rather than slebs) that the indignation of the rest of the media (and the public) will be inflamed.

      • 76
        Tax Payer says:

        Personally, what I resent the most is the hypocrisy of politicians of all parties who were quite happy to get into bed with Murdoch when it suited them, but are now jumping on this convenient bandwagon because they think he is weakened.

      • 254
        @camilla_saurus says:

        You can’t judge the crime by the victim.

        “So what if a few celebs get hacked, I don’t care and it’s their own fault for not changing their pin/courting fame/leading scandalous lives” *cannot* then become “Shocking, they hacked a dead girl’s voicemail, they should all go to prison and rot”.

        The crime, hacking/intercepting private voicemails – is a crime *either* way.

  20. 41
    who done it. says:

    Sorry Guido but you have only found the smoking gun. You need to prove that Piers pulled the Trigger.

  21. 49
    Ross says:

    Can we just fast forward to the part where Piers goes to prison and gets ass raped now?

    • 60
      Cato Street Conspirator says:

      Tell me Ross, would you really put you dick in his arse? If not, stop fantasising about it.

      • 166
        Dorian Smith says:

        You’re never shy of putting your foot in your mouth.

      • 169
        The Sheikh Of Arabeeee says:

        Please stop fantasising about murdering people with whom you disagree. Far worse than anal sex. Only a true fucking knobhead would get off on something like that.

        • 220
          Selohesra says:

          Are they not equivalent sins – reckon its eternal damnation in hell for either

    • 69
      Anonymous says:

      There’s a movie of that playing in my head just now. Shame you can’t pay for a ticket and watch.

      • 93
        jabbathecat says:

        A dropped bar of soap in the showers figure prominently in your movie?

        • 103
          Socialist Revolutionary Charlie "Storm Parliament" Gilmour says:

          Nasty men from council estates do bad things to me in the showers! My botty hurts!

          I want my mumsie!

          • Mumsie says:

            Hey Charlieboy! When you’ve finished slopping out, come here and suck your mummy’s dick.

    • 116
      Ichabod says:

      Who will comfort the blessed Celia in her time of loneliness ?

  22. 51
    Flash GATSO says:

    Get out the bunting! Prepare the street parties! Piers is going to have that smug face given a damn good slapping.

    I next expect him to feign a breakdown “Fears for Piers? Close friends of Piers Morgan say that he is suffering from mental exhaustion…which is manifesting itself in bouts of amnesia and hissy fit tantrums….”

    Hopefully then The Sun can pitch in with “Is Morgan Mad?” Worried TV chiefs say it’s lights out for Morgan’s telly career…” With his head pictured in a light-bulb.

  23. 55
    Cato Street Conspirator says:

    I think you’ve got him now Mr Fawkes. In fact, I’m certain you have.

  24. 56
    Alan Rushoverthebridger says:

    What about the Guardian’s hacking, why arent we leading with that?

  25. 61
    • 108
      Nodrog Nworb says:

      He’s a brooding, intense, psychologically flawed, over-serious, demented workaholic.

      Oh no he’s not!

  26. 68
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    So will the select committe cal Piers to give evidence next week in front of thier kangeroo court?

  27. 70
    Stop messing about says:

    FFS Guido. Hack his phone, buy his bank records, go through his bins, bribe a cop and produce some hard evidence.

  28. 72
    Fabians are Evil says:

    As my granny used to say “If you lay down with Socialists you’ll get fleas”

  29. 75
    Groove says:

    It will be intersting to see Piers Morgan try and refute this new article.

    Btw, Guiido. You have nothing to worry about your own credibility.

    But, re. ‘that Forbes hack’, did you see his article ( http://blogs.forbes.com/jeffbercovici/2011/07/26/that-piers-morgan-smoking-gun-not-so-smoky/ )?

    Only, there is a Wikipedia picture of you and, written underneath, it says:
    ‘Paul Staines, aka Guido Fawkes. His namesake may have blown up Parliament but his Piers Morgan bombshell proved a dud.’

    Maybe someone should point out to ‘the hack’ that Parliament was not blown up!
    Show/tweet your new article. He seems to be the one with credibility issues.

  30. 80
    Anonymous says:

    It’s time this evidence was handed over to plod so they can run this case in tandem with Coulsons investigation, and on the same basis.

  31. 83
    John Ward says:

    Yippeeee!
    It’s the End of the Piers show….nobbled at The Slog: Morgan in McCartney hack storm….
    http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2011/07/27/hackgate-day-196-heather-mills-paul-mccartney-and-piers-morgans-way-with-a-song/

  32. 90
    HandsomeDavid says:

    One way out for the Mirror Group and News International executives and journalists is to retrospectively apply for a few thousand phone tapping court orders – problem solved.

  33. 98
    Liar Liar Pants on Fire. says:

    Then:
    “Coalition Agreement (Section 10):

    The parties agree to implement a full programme of measures to reverse the substantial erosion of civil liberties under the Labour Government and roll back state intrusion. This will include… The Adopting the protections of the Scottish model for the DNA database.”

    Now:
    Innocent people’s DNA profiles won’t be deleted after all, minister admits
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/8660821/Innocent-peoples-DNA-profiles-wont-be-deleted-after-all-minister-admits.html

    • 104
      Tax Payer says:

      It’s almost like they lied to us?

      • 111
        David Camoron says:

        I give you a cast-iron guarantee I would never ever do that.

      • 178
        ACPO Ltd says:

        I can assure that they did not. But they have been, how shall I put it, out of the loop for some time.

    • 110
      Sophie says:

      You really will have to stop thinking of rusty Dave as a Conservative.

      He told you he was the heir to Blair.

      I for one listened & voted UKIP.

      • 118
        Moussa Koussa says:

        LOL…. UKIP…. The UK Branch of Norwegian Neo Con Nutter Sect.

        • 127
          Brussels-based Eurocrat says:

          Shut up and keep paying your taxes, Moussa.

          I will decide what your taxes are, and what they are spent on. I will do this forever, and you will have no say.

    • 157
      Anon says:

      Better speak to Nick Clegg about it then.

  34. 102
    EC1 PhD says:

    Nice one Guido. Moron out of a job. Move on to the next tabloid editor, if you please.

  35. 107
    2 Para says:

    Time for the cross hairs Guido.

    Morgan, your downfall will be delicious to all who wear & wore the Queens uniform.

    • 125
      Moussa Koussa says:

      No more cross hairs for Guido. It may give the impression that he and his minions are right wing neo con trigger happy loons.

      • 132
        mongwatch says:

        You give us the impression you’re a left-wing parasitic spaz.

      • 139
        stalin, mao tse tung, pol pot, robert mugabe etc etc says:

        We didn’t waste ammunition on the proles, we just starved the fuckers to death.

      • 180
        Alan Rushoverthebridger says:

        Oh, hello my good friend Chocolata Moussa, and can I once again say how much we at the Guardian admire you and what you stand for. Do let us know if we can help you or your Colonel in any way, meanwhile I have to go and cover up our hacking files, erm, I mean dispose of tt hem, erm, no I mean publish them and be damned…

  36. 109
    I don't need no doctor says:

    CNN will not stand by Piers Morgan. Time to tell the real truth Morgan, if you know how to tell the truth.

  37. 113
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Looks like Piers will have to “Man up!”

  38. 114
    Moussa Koussa says:

    You are wasting your time on this one…..you just don’t get it. Even Hyena Boy has stated, that celebs, sport stars and politicians is one thing, but crime victims is another ( Milly )

    As hard as you try Neo Con Loons, The Mirror group didn’t hack a Milly or anyone like a Milly …..So you are barking up the wrong tree.

    • 126
      Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

      All must be equal under the law.

    • 131
      Anon says:

      And how exactly do you know that?

      • 134
        Moussa Koussa says:

        I am a 16-year-old supporter of Ed Miliband’s Parasite Party. Ergo I know everything.

    • 137
      Engineer says:

      Moussa, you haven’t engaged brain, have you?

      The recent phone-hacking hoo-ha was about bashing Murdoch, predicated on the premise that only his papers engaged in the practise. This proves that the practise was more widespread, and by no means limited to News International.

    • 256
      @camilla_saurus says:

      You can’t judge a crime by the victim.
      Hacking is a crime, therefore he should be treated the same.

  39. 117
    Voice of Treason says:

    Digress but so what! Manchester: A 72 year old shopkeeper has been arrested and is in police custody FOR STABBING TO DEATH AN ARMED ROBBER!!! This fucking country is a shit heap. The poor guy should be given a medal.

    • 130
      Ah! Monika says:

      It was a florist’s. One way of increasing trade?

    • 136
      Sir William Waad says:

      The law on using ‘reasonable force’ to defend yourself and your property has never really changed. Even in the eighteenth century a householder could be charged if he or she killed a burglar who was running away. What has changed, perhaps, is the attitude of the police, who are no longer capable of reasoning “armed robber, 72-year-old shopkeeper, reasonable force”.

    • 138
      Tax Payer says:

      Fatboy Clarke told us we could defend ourselves and our property?

      • 147
        Ken Clarke says:

        Yeah, that was mainly just to grab headlines.

        Reality = same shitty rules as you all had (and hated) under the last government.

  40. 119
    Ah! Monika says:

    Whenever a good NORWESTER blows Guido is certain of piers between his toes.

    Enjoy you ‘sand’wiches.

  41. 121
    Ichabod says:

    Did Piers Morgan ever win the Orwell prize ?

  42. 124
    The BBC says:

    Story, what story? Fine chap, that Piers Morgan. Nothing to see here, move along.

    Now, lets get back to the Evil Murdoch Empire. Anybody got any dirt on Lord Ashcroft?

  43. 128
    Jess The Dog says:

    THE INSIDER Vol III – At Her Majesty’s Pleasure

    SUNDAY, APRIL 12

    Woke up to some alarming headlines in the papers. ‘MY LUST FOR PIERS’, screamed the “Prison Gazette”. It was the kind of thing I have always dreamed that Scarlett Johansson might come out with. But the rival “Inmates’ Times” splash revealed that the claimant to my torso was a bit closer to home.

    ‘I may be a virgin, but I’ve got the hots for Piers!’ it read. Yep, Big Bubba had identified yours truly as the object of his desires. ‘Up until now I have never met the right man,’ he cooed. ‘But maybe that will change now I’ve met Piers. He’s a very handsome, gorgeous man. I remember when he first came into the shower and I was thinking, “He looks really nice, I wonder who he is?”

    To be continued….

    • 135
      Ah! Monika says:

      Louise Mensch is a novelist!!

    • 141
      Socialist Revolutionary Charlie "Storm Parliament" Gilmour says:

      Someone called Bubba from a council estate has made me his wife!

      My botty hurts and I want my mummy!

      • 262
        Charles Bronson, Parkhurst says:

        Now you know what Handycock is going to feel like when they put him in my cell in Parkhurst.

  44. 140
    Tuscan Tony says:

    Piers=toast, esp as he’s taking the Yankee dollar at the moment at they will not want the contagion. What a shame, lovely chap…

  45. 144
    Anonymous says:

    As Mensch pointed out on Newsnight, Trinity Mirror’s statement that its reporters “work” within the rules is misleading at best.

    Somebody should ask them about why they chose the present tense and ask them about past practices. I can’t believe Ulrika’s/Sven’s lawyers aren’t all over this.

  46. 145
  47. 148
    Abdelbaset al-Megrahi says:

    Scottish justice is great.

  48. 152
    Martin Day says:

    Right wing political blogger,Guiod Fawkes said Mr Osborne needed to provide greater detail about his meetings with News International executives.

    He said: “Whilst we now have a list of meetings that George Osborne has had with News International, it is not enough.

    “We now need full access, including the publishing of the minutes from these meetings. In particular we need to know the details of his December 2010 meetings and exactly what was said about the BSkyB bid.

    “This information is particularly important because George Osborne was the person who initiated the Andy Coulson appointment.”

    • 208
      Martin Days gay hamster says:

      Martin, I’ve been ‘downstairs’ again, and I can report that you’ve got the shits.

    • 215
      jonty's left testicle says:

      You’ve been gunning for Osbourne for years on here Martin and none of it has stuck, and he is now Chancellor of the Exchequer. You’re just no fucking good are you? Why don’t you just go and have a lie down and take your meds? The nice lady dreesed in blue and white will help you.

  49. 153
    What a Mensch says:

    From Morgan’s The Insider column in the Mail on Sunday, 4 Feb 2007 (not available online):

    FRIDAY, JANUARY 26

    This whole royal phone-hacking ‘scandal’ has been pathetically overblown. I used to employ Clive Goodman when I was editor of the News Of The World, and he was a top-class reporter as well as a thoroughly good bloke. Yes, he was stupid to hack into phone messages personally – but, take it from me, this has been a widespread practice conducted by, and on behalf of, not only reporters like Goodman, but top divorce lawyers and City takeover merchants for years.

    • 167
      Am I the only person who didn't hack? says:

      “top divorce lawyers and City takeover merchants”

      So when do we get the inquiry into them?

      • 172
        Gordon Brown says:

        i want an investigation into the deficiency of mandarin orange segments in my portions of orange jelly

  50. 165
    Gordon says:

    Sarah, will you teach me how to Twitter

    • 199
      The wife of the Son of the Manse says:

      I will when I have finished teaching you about the mysteries of the lady garden.

  51. 175
    what a plonker says:

    Piers Morgan will never be forgiven for his betrayal of our troops in Iraq ,by
    publishing false photographs . The man is disgusting .

  52. 181
    Gordon's little helper, Piers. says:

    “Yet when I ran into him at a party recently he was speculating, with apparent sobriety, that Gordon Brown might invite him into the Cabinet”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/features/3636184/How-did-Piers-Morgan-become-so-big-across-the-pond.html

  53. 184
    Anybody but Ed says:

    Louise Mensch MP 1 Piers “Morgan” Moron 0 ‘fess up son your finished !! The benefit office is calling!!!

  54. 186
    Gordon says:

    Piers, if they put you away, who will tell me when to cry?

  55. 188
    Ah! Monika says:

    Just read….http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/ for the first time. Worth a look

  56. 189
    Dudley Zoo says:

    From Prince Andrew representing the Royals, right through the Lords, The Government (Hune), The Press, BBC, it is begining to look like the whole of the British polite society is a crock of shit.

    It has always been like this but previously the media have been suppressed into keeping quiet

  57. 190
    Penfold says:

    Book ‘im Guido. !!

    So nice to see this pompous, puffed up, shit head get his just comeuppance.

    Ahh deep joy.

    This probably means that Sly Bailey will get the bullet from Trinity-Mirror as the shreholders want her to half her £1.7m package, but phone hacking will have her out pronto and cheaper.
    More collateral as the Yanks would say.

  58. 196
    Triffid says:

    Whilst this does look pretty damning doesn’t it raid a huge problem?

    *If* Moron is proven guilty won’t that mean he’ll come back to Britain? Perhaps best we just let this die as this alternative is too horrible to contemplate.

  59. 203
    I fucked Sally Bercow in the ass, hard. says:

    Check Mate.

    Fuck off Piers.

  60. 204
    Moshe Dayan says:

    It was David Rose wot done it. Nowt to do with Piers.

    Anyone seen Johan Hari?

  61. 206
    The response says:
  62. 222
    cheche says:

    I see politically correct Richard Branson os off-shoring his empire.

    Funny how its alright for us to pay taxes but when the elite have to they dont like it

  63. 223
    BBC Cocaine using shirtlifter says:

    Look Fawkes we are not interested in this story unless it involves Tories, now leave us alone we’ve got some 12 year old boys to bugger.

  64. 226
    Jess The Dog says:

    The diary entry isn’t an extract from his God Bless America book, which ends in 2008. Maybe from an updated version of The Insider (not on the High Street bookshelves!)?

    The Zelo Street blogpost is a bit odd … it crows over the Eye revelations but draws a conclusion that the Eye fails to reach…. the Screws apparently never worked out if it was internally leaked or handed over as a spoiler… or, indeed, hacked in the first place.

  65. 232
    That's News says:

    Goodbye, Piers.

  66. 234
    the truth and nothing but the truth says:

    “Piеrs Morgаn is a cuпt.”

    Just wanted to say something that is indisputably correct.

    • 249
      he just doesn't get it...yet says:

      what a pleasure it would be to see the smug scumbag humbled and jugged

  67. 241
    Jimmy says:

    “Guido has staked his reputation”

    Ok I’ll see you. 50p about right?

    Seriously, what was this scoop?

    • 247
      Anonymous says:

      Er….that they arrested Coulson on the same grounds?

      • 250
        Jimmy says:

        Going on Desert Island Discs?

        “Before your first record I must warn you it may harm your defence if you select anything by James Last..”

  68. 243
    dr.sipp says:

    GUIDO—can you look into that insider trade on a certain share

    if anything yanks hate more is financial–misdoing

    a letter to wall st journal would be icing on the cake

  69. 245
    EdButLookBalls says:

    Martha Weiner on R4, BBC rolling out Joe Twiglets now…when are they having Balls and Blanchflower on again..should be on daily to keep Ozzy on his toes FFS!

    Feck off 5th columnists!!

  70. 248
    nell says:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/greenslade/2011/jul/27/piersmorgan-phone-hacking

    poor piers is all over the news everywhere now.

    how long before his bosses at cnn start questioning whether they should have done a better check on his background before they employed him?

    by the by where are gordon and sarah his bosom pals? you’d think they at least would be out there supporting him in his hour of need.

    Or have they done to him what they’ve just done to their old friends the murdochs? Dumped him and them in the hope that none of the mud sticks to them!!

  71. 255
    Man With A Very Hot Bladder says:

    Piers is banged to rights.

    :popcorn:

  72. 257
    Beggar's Belief says:

    @comic belief. No Morgan and the Mirror did not just hack celebrities. Morgan and the Mirror did far worse than just hacking celebs. Morgan is a piece of excrement who should be exposed as such.

  73. 258
    Jo Bond says:

    Well done Guido for exposing this deceit

  74. 261
    Raj says:

    from the new statesmen. also on the Guardian website still (from 2002):

    “Dominic Mohan is now editor of the Sun, and in 2002 he was editing its showbusiness column.

    In the Guardian on 1 May 2002, there appeared an intriguing paragraph in a report about “showbusiness journalism’s most glamorous event, the Princess Margaret Awards — aka the Shaftas”:

    Ring, a ring a story
    How appropriate that the most glamourous event in the showbusiness calender should be sponsored by a phone company. Mohan went on to thank “Vodafone’s lack of security” for the Mirror’s showbusiness exclusives. Whatever does he mean?

    Indeed, whatever could he have meant?

    And what was known in the world of showbusiness journalism back in 2002?”

  75. 263
    Katherine Graham says:

    Piers knew. Put that in your pipe and smoke it those ofyou who thought he was too stupid to know anyrthing!

  76. 264
    Katherine Graham says:

    Miranda Sawyer interviews Victoria ‘I’m not super-intellectual. I just work hard at my job’ Derbyshire

    For those of you who like to laugh at the Gurdian and BBC Miranda Sawyer was yer journalist who criticised one of the Gallaghers for saying that he hoped Albarn out of Blur “caught” AIDS and she went on a hissy fit that people did not “catch” AIDS.

    When writing about Freddie Mercury she described him as
    (i) obtained it from amazon.com
    (ii) won it in a raffle
    (iii) had it installed by that annoying Buy one get one free man off the telly
    (iv) caught it

  77. 265
    Mark Wouters says:

    Hello,
    Well the CIA has fucked up well and proper !They Murdered President JF Kennedy,Kennedy would not have got the USA into a debt crisis ,it proves JFKs policies were correct all along ,perhaps the FBI can declare a pubic investigation into his Murder in Dallas in November 1963.

  78. 266
    inside-out says:

    What does Pier’s mistress at the Grauniad know about voicemail hacking?

  79. 267
  80. 268
    LibelFreeZone says:

    What’s most perplexing is why CNN–”The most trusted name in news”–hired a former tabloid editor, for cryin’ out loud. Such a hire simply defies logic, whether or not Morgan actually hacked any phones himself. He may not have. He left it up to his so called reporters or outside third parties to do so. That’s like saying Hitler (pardon the inevitable insertion of pure evil) wasn’t guilty of anything because he personally didn’t torture anyone.

    CNN needs to acknowledge that it made a grievous hiring error and fire Morgan now. His recorded statements are more than enough to discredit him as a reliable source of anything. He was not a decent man. He drank the Kool-Aid at The Sun (1989-1994), NOTW (1994-1995) and the Daily Mirror (1995-2004) enough to have done significant damage to people–celebrity or not–too numerous to mention.

    Britain’s culture of mockery and humiliation can end. The reverberations of cleaning up Fleet Street can extend to the United States. I truly believe this. All it takes is for news consumers to recognize the pain and degradation that tabloids writ large on society and simply say no to tabloids. All of them–the glossy (People and US magazines) and the dull (National Enquirer).

    The unraveling of our tabloid culture has begun. I can think of no good reason to spare the “career” of someone who played a significant role in the deterioration of British society for over a decade.


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“There is more sexism in Britain than in any other country in the world, according to a mad woman who has been sent here by the United Nations.

Rashida Manjoo is a part-time professor of law at Cape Town University in the totally non-sexist country of South Africa (otherwise known as Rape Capital Of The World).

Mrs Magoo has been wandering around with her notebook and is appalled by the sexist “boys’ club” culture here, apparently.

I don’t doubt we still have sexism in the UK. But is it worse than in, say, Saudi Arabia, d’you think, honey-lamb? Or about 175 other countries? Get a grip, you doolally old bat.”



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