July 26th, 2011

Mirror, Mirror on the Fall

As speculation matures into full-blown witness statements and accusations, Trinity Mirror have called in the law firm Herbert Smith and launched an investigation into phone-hacking across its titles. Until now there have been only present tense denials of such actions.

One shareholder told the FT they expected “nothing less” than an investigation, but it hasn’t come in time to stop the company’s share price going into free fall, with a 9.8% plummet on Monday since Guido, swiftly followed by the BBC, and grudgingly some other papers, began lifting the lid. He’s not sure a mere review is going to do much to reassure investors…


  1. 1
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    looks like Ed is really is the son of Brown.

  2. 2
    Gordon Brown says:

    Speaking an Hero, I urge all loyal Labout Voters to buy the DM.

    And othing is my fault.

  3. 3
    Gordon Brown (corrected) says:

    Speaking as an Hero, I urge all loyal Labour Voters to buy the DM.

    And nothing is my fault.

    Trust me!

  4. 4
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Compare that with what happened to News Corp shares last week.

    O/T RE the Tom harris quotes yesterday.

    What is it with the left?

    Remember when Dave done his “show me your papers” line in response to a question on ID cards? Didnt the left kick up a fuss about it?

    Yet the left feel they can get away with “jokes” like tom did yesterday?

  5. 5
    Bill d'Sarse says:

    I wonder if Ed will be so vociferous now?

  6. 6
    Rupert Murdoch says:

    G’day, mate.

  7. 7
    nell says:

    when can we expect the graudian and the beeb to launch investigations into their practices?

  8. 8
    Gweedo says:

    The whole of the british media stands on the precipice – with Tom Watson pulling strings as he makes his aspertions…. about phone hacking , about email hacking etc etc etc – he is currently the puppet master who can raise questions cos he probably has most of the answers….

    PM needs to grab bull by horns and have immediate focused “truth and reconcilliation” enquiry just into media practices – and allow media orgs to confess all and not bring criminal proceeding to any disclosed occurances – undisclosed occurrances will be met with full force of the law

    This would allow in one step – the horror to be uncovered – or else its the drip drip drip of ex-journos – old emails and the exposure bit by bit

    No-one seems to understands you cant delete emails – the trail exists in the comuter backup tapes – going back weeks and months – there will be 100’s of tapes with the old emails on them – so trauwling this is an easy task

    thats the point about email – its not a converstation – its a recorded converstation for ever !!!!!

    Guido – why not be first to ask for a “reveal all” media only enquiry ?

  9. 9
    nell says:

    Well I hope so. Him staying in the limeligt is what is damaging labour. son of gordon indeed.

  10. 10
    Peter Grimes says:

    Don’t hold your breath – only the Tories/RW press can be guilty of anything, ever!

  11. 11

    Looks like it’s going down the “toilets”

  12. 12
    Hypocrite says:

    Let’s see if it passes the test….

    Will the investigations, a) Harm the Conservatives and b) Harm news Corp

    If the answer is no, then do not expect much fuss from the BBC and Guardian. They have an agenda you know.

  13. 13
    Anonymous says:

    If mirror has broken the law its needs to be punished. Sun is going to get it as well.

  14. 14
    Peter Grimes says:

    O/T some bum decisions yesterday, Billy, but we won through in the end.

  15. 15
    Brown Badger says:

    Then he must have used his Balls to provide the means.

  16. 16
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    So Labours only and most loyal supporting newspaper is looking like it is in serious trouble all because Ed wanted to try and make this a Murdoch onl issue.

    Is Ed secretly working for the consevritives?

    And i wonder what Ed Balls and Kevin Maguire were talking about at Lords the other day?

  17. 17

    Just a thought !
    This guy in Norway is being held in solitary confinement
    being denied all human contact
    no media coverage ie TV radio or newspapers etc
    Trial behind closed doors , so nobody gets to hear his story

    this must be in breech of his human rights ?

  18. 18

    Call Bell Pottinger in today
    To make your problems go away…

  19. 19
    The Stilton Eater says:

    Given Mirror Group is paying the lawyers to investigate I suspect this is an exercise in self-defence rather than openness. The whir of the printing press will be drowned out by the noise of shredders; hacks will be pressing “delete” rather than “publish”.

  20. 20
    Gonk says:

    No wonder Maguire putting himself
    about a bit. He can see the writing
    on the wall. Talk about keeping your
    options open.

  21. 21

    No it is defending his human rights. He can’t read the Mirror…

  22. 22

    The figures will show today that Britain has slipped back into recession , that means we are officially in “Double Dip Recession” but you wont hear a politician mention the word Double dip , they will just gloss over it as usual

  23. 23
    cort says:

    The whole furore about the phone hacking only took hold when it emerged that the NOTW had gone beyond hacking the phones of celebrities and had actually been hacking into the phones of its readership (eg the Dowlers, relatives of serving armed forces). If it emerges that the Mirror has ‘only’ been hacking the phones of slebs, then the public won’t be nearly as upset (nor the media as indignant) as it was with the NOTW. But whilst Piers may think he can sleep relatively easily, it doesn’t mean he hasn’t broken the law.

  24. 24
    My Vote Never Counts says:


    Well, currently on Radio 4, the BBC have surpassed themselves with an all-time height of navel-gazing and self obsession jointly with the Guardian.

    If they disapp*ar any further up their own rear ends, with any luck they’ll vanish altogether.

  25. 25
    Anonymous says:

    Moody’s said in March: “We believe that slower growth combined with weaker-than-expected fiscal consolidation could cause the UK’s debt metrics to deteriorate to a point that would be inconsistent with a triple-A rating.”


  26. 26
    The voice of unreason says:

    Greece has announced that it is officially in a double-dip recession after sales of Houmous and Taramasalata have again plunged to new lows.

  27. 27
    nell says:

    Well what do you expect after 13 years of disastrous economic mismanagement?

    You don’t turn the monumental incompetent decisions that gordon and bullyballs made all those years in a year or even in two.

  28. 28

    BP announce record profits for the quarter 3.2 billion !
    the public suffer record fuel prices
    while the government maintain a record silence
    while collecting their record tax take !


  29. 29
    Tax Payer says:

    As you say, there is no legal distinction.

  30. 30

    YAWN !

  31. 31
    Buy buy buy! says:

    You little Tinker Guido. TNI has not fallen off a cliff in recent days. The big fall happened last Autumn when it fell from 120 ish down to 80 ish and then this spring when it fell to 45 ish where it is now. With all the bad news around it could even be the time to buy.

    But why spoil a good story for yje sake of accuracy?

  32. 32
    nell says:

    Truth is Billy, tomharris and the loonyleft Just Don’t get It!

    A terrorist is a terrorist , someone who lives in a hatefilled bubble outside of normal society.

    extreme left or extreme right, they’re all the same, and funnily enough , when they try and justify their violent behaviour and unjustifiable opinions, they all sound the same!

  33. 33
    Bled White Taxpayer says:

    Norway is a serial “offender” against ECHR judgements, which makes me wonder why we in the UK don’t grow a pair as the Norwegians have clearly done.

  34. 34
    Dorian Smith says:

    No wonder Toilets Maguire buggered off on his hols for two weeks.

  35. 35
    Anonymous says:

    He has said he wasn’t working alone so obviously the authorities don’t want him making contact with them to plan God knows what.

    However, re him making his case – if he is such a loony with prejudiced, unpopular views, why not LET him make his case and damn himself?

  36. 36
    Ed Balls says:

    Our father who art in Heaven
    Please make the UK figures bad, very Bad

  37. 37
    Andy Capp says:

    Bloody ‘ell, Flo! The game’s up.

  38. 38
    Sir William Waad says:

    Seven years’ bad luck for Piers?

  39. 39
    Chuka says:

    I second that God.

  40. 40
    Sophie says:


    Cut taxes.

    Cut public spending.

    And for f__ks sake keep that crypto socialist nutter Cable away from the printing presses.

  41. 41
    Sophie says:

    No tax cuts, no spending cuts, no reduction in the state: no growth


    50.1% of all economic activity in Britian today is state spending.

    Welcome to East Germany.

  42. 42
    Fees Office red pencil says:

    Lots of politicians are involved in the double dip. Check out their expense claims and the effort to cover the trail.

  43. 43
    Ichabod says:

    Digression, but…..i’m glad to see that someone in the press ( today’s Daily Mail) agrees with me about part of the BBC coverage of the Oslo massacre. I thought Jon Sopel looked far too casual and disrespectful in his sunday reporting from the city cathedral, and interviewing members of the congregation when he wasn’t wearing a tie. I’m sorry to be petty, but it looked awful, and somehow indicative of the low standards that exist at this blasted organisation. Did Mr S. not think that it was somehow inappropriate ?

  44. 44
    Filthy Rich Capitalist says:

    Fear not. Take profits leveraged silver (LSIL) and gold (LBUL) – options expiry tomorrow in US, Market makers will knock price down. Looking to re-enter next week. Remain long Stock Market, due a big move up imminently. This indicates there will not be a double dip recession, in any case we will not know until the end of this quarter if last quarter’s statistics, out today, are negative.

  45. 45
    Rupert Murdoch says:

    G’day bludgers! Thank you for sticking by me even though I supported Labour for 13 years.

  46. 46
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    For all those worried about Kevin Maguire, i hear there is a job vacency about to be opened at the Indie…..

  47. 47
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Dont care , we hold the ashes.

  48. 48
    misterned says:

    Norway is not a full member of the EU. They have agreed to sign up to some of the legislation which they agree with, but they are not obliged to implement all of it.

  49. 49
    Sarah Ferguson says:

    Hope somebody hacked my phones, I need the money.

  50. 50
    Kill kill kill says:

    How dare you. Have you not read this site for very long? Most of us think this man is a hero. Just read the comments over the last few days. You’re clearly in the wrong place. Be gone, socialist. Breivik is a man for the ages. Isn’t that right, Tron, WVM, Grumpy Old Man and all my other brethren? Hail Breivik!

  51. 51
    I don't need no doctor says:

    What have Tom Watson, Chris Bryant and Ed Miliband said about the Mirror’s alleged phone hacking. Will labour withdraw from any liaison with the Mirror until the issue is resolved.
    Kevin Maguire should also state if he has any knowledge of phone hacking at the Mirror over the last 14 years.

  52. 52
    I don't need no doctor says:

    Are they the ashes of the NOTW, and soon the Mirror.

  53. 53
    billyboy says:

    Fetch a few barrels of the stuff Guy. We need it now.

  54. 54
    PD77 says:

    Norway had the good sense to stay out of the EU, pity we didn’t take a leaf out of their book on that one!

  55. 55
    Archer Karcher says:

    It looks as if the Norwegian authorities are scared shitless about what he might say. Interesting times, why is a government afraid of a single voice? What is he saying that terrifies them so?

  56. 56
    misterned says:

    Recession is TWO consecutive quarters of negative growth figures. The last figures showed growth of 0.5% increase. IF today’s figures show negative growth, then that will NOT be a double dip recession. You will have to wait for the Q3 figures to show negative growth too for it to be a double dip.

  57. 57
    A doctor writes... says:

    It’s a fair bet that the ‘cells’ he was working with only exist inside his head.

  58. 58
    misterned says:

    The economy GREW last quarter by 0.2% That is NOT recession. We have had 2 consecutive quarters of growth. Yes the growth is slow and a few tax cuts are very badly needed. But we are not seeing the double dip that labour and the Guardian and the BBC and the Mirror et al have been constantly predicting.

  59. 59
    Nodrog Nworb says:

    As always I’m late to this thread. What sort of automobile is a DM, is it faster than a DB or even a GB?

  60. 60
    Archer Karcher says:

    Why the hell are we a full member?

    Any cost / benefit analysis would show that membership was an expensive luxury and disadantageous to our interests, at every concievable level. Yet on we plod, paying our executioner handsomely, for the privilege of our execution.

  61. 61
    Archer Karcher says:

    Sadly the tribalist monkeys that infest this and other sites, cannot see the wood for the trees.
    The Conservative party is a centre left party today and as such, is identical to the one it replaced.
    A vote for the LabLibCon is a vote for more of the same and more of the same, minus the lunatic at the helm and his henchmen, is precisely what they are getting.

  62. 62
    pissed off voter says:

    Whatever happened to McNulty, McShane, etc ? Long grass like so many others? Where are all the thieves now? How many have had refunds of their pseudo-repayments? How much have they been pais in ‘resettlement’ grants – and why? How many are in the current cabinet/shadow cabinet? Does crime pay?

  63. 63
    Gordon Nworb says:

    It’s a special vehicle that goes back and forth and sometimes both ways at once.

    It’s part of my lagacy.

  64. 64
    Mike Hunt says:

    I wish it was history, we are stuck with this disaster for many years to come.

  65. 65
    Harold Wilson in a mac says:

    It follows your moral compass oh great one

  66. 66
    Lurker says:

    ECHR has nothing to do with the EU

  67. 67
    That's News says:

    Much more than seven years of bad luck, I would think.

    See? Ed and co and their boosters at Trinity Mirror should have kept their mouths shut. Karma.

  68. 68
    Umm says:

    Perhaps he has inside info that Jonah will be visiting next weekend?

  69. 69
    Rt Hoon Tom Whatson MP says:

    Screw you Guido for screwing my pension fund.

    Lucky that I have my expenses to fall back on.

  70. 70
    Rt Hoon Tom Whatson MP says:

    Chris Bryant, Ed Miliband ? Who they?

    Nothing to do with me.

  71. 71
    BBC investigations unit says:

    Hey, if its not in the interests of the BBC to air a story then that story will not be aired. Is anyone really interested in the hacking scandal now? Especially now it is endangering the left wing MSM.

    This entire show trial is a prime platform to attack the right and Murdoch, a platform from which Ed could re re re re re launch his fabulous political career. This scandal was about making the right suffer not exposing the truth.
    Until this scandal is back on track where it belongs attacking the right and the BBCs political and commercial enemies then the BBC has other fish to fry, much more important news to air. And remember, we know where you live.

  72. 72
    Grumpy Old Man says:

    The European Court of Human Rights (French: Cour européenne des droits de l’homme) in Strasbourg is a supra-national court, established by the European Convention on Human Rights, which provides legal recourse of last resort for individuals who feel that their human rights have been violated by a contracting party to the Convention. Application before the court can also be brought by other contracting parties.

    The Convention was adopted under the auspices of the Council of Europe, all 47 of whose member states are parties to the Convention.
    The Council of Europe has nothing to do with either the Council of the European Union or the European Council, which are both EU bodies.

  73. 73
    what a plonker says:

    Gotcha !!!!!

  74. 74
    Felldoom says:

    Sad and you claim others are standing on the dead to make a point ?

  75. 75
    @TollyPointBee says:

    has any1 reported KELVIN MACKENZIE MISSING!!! to the Old Bill. Where is he please? First big story he has ever missed!!! Will he be doin time wiv BeckaH & Moron?

    Guido get on the case or do u only hunt down small vermin like McBride?

  76. 76
    God is an Englishman. says:

    “Breach”, bum brain!
    Breech is completely different.

  77. 77
    God is an Englishman. says:

    B.P sites are the most expensive fuel outlets 99.9% of the time.
    Why anyone uses them is beyond me.

  78. 78
    God is an Englishman. says:

    With you umpiring it’ll be a hard job to win the current test series.

  79. 79
    Anonymous says:

    Actions speak louder than words and I would venture to suggest that the psychotic nature of his crime renders his motive unworhty of general consumption.

  80. 80
    Anonymous says:

    Mr.S is so anti tory that he doesn’t need to do “thinking” even assuming he is capable of such a cerebral process.

  81. 81
    Lenny Bennett says:

    The lack of any compliance or governance processes within media organisations will make these email ‘archives’ easily purgable. They have had years to clear the mess and cover up what has been going on so it is extremely unlikely they will admit to anything without external evidence.

  82. 82
    Anonymous says:

    Not a discussion; McG was only there to take instructions from Ed. B.
    Noticed that McG was replaced by a.n.other last night to accompany Andrew Pce on the 11:30 pm Sky news review of the newspapers.Wonder why?

  83. 83
    Louise Mental MP says:

    So I called Piers to taunt him about the share price but he just laughed and said something I didn’t understand. What does “shorting” mean?

  84. 84
    Anon says:

    Oh dear. Right = Bad, Left = Good.

    It’s like trying to have a grown-up conversation with a 5 year-old.

  85. 85
    Anon says:

    Do you remember the chorus of derision when News International said they were investigating themselves?

  86. 86
    Anon says:

    Yes, let’s not dredge up the past, shall we, and remind everyone yet again what Labour did to this country with its obsessions of spin, celebrity and spending.

  87. 87
    Truthful Cunt says:

    Trinity Mirror’s stance on this shows it has broken the law. Last week they said they had not broken the law nor PCC guidelines yet today we hear they are now ready to investigate to see if they have. If they haven’t broken the law then why start an investigation?

    Trinity Mirror are lying Hunts and I hope they and their shitty newspapers are bankrupt soon.

  88. 88
    Sungei Patani says:

    But of course they didn’t. Are you Ed Balls by any chance? He gets so excited at the thought of a double-dip recession – probably helps him to take his mind off Yvette.

  89. 89
    billyboy says:

    Don’t you know that negative times negative = positive. G. Osb. seems to.
    and all of the other 600 odd negatives are now on extended hols.

  90. 90
    billyboy says:

    The Mirror is Cracked eh?

  91. 91

    fuck off tit brain

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