July 5th, 2011

+++ Labour Votes No To £9.5 Billion to IMF Bailout Fund +++

A few moments ago in Committee Room 14 at the usually staid Statutory Instruments Committee, Labour members voted in the national interest.  Government whips got it through 10/6. Something very rare happened in what is usually the dullest of committees. A dozen or so Tory non-members of the committee came and spoke against affirming the instrument. Government whips cajoled the pliant Tory and LibDem members of the committee to vote to affirm the instrument while Tory MPs spoke from the floor against it. Promising new boy Steve Baker and backbench eurosceptic Douglas Carswell were among those who spoke against affirming the instrument. If Guido’s grasp of arcane parliamentary procedure is correct this will now have to go to a silent vote of the whole house without a debate.


128 Comments

  1. 1
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Great, Now what will Dave do?

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    • 9
      AngryEnglishJon says:

      Change of underpants for the spineless bugger

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      • 39
        Anonymous says:

        Looks like Cable was right, when it came to News Cooperation.

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      • 40
        Some Tory boyz are shit says:

        Intelligent cross party politics in the national interest. About f***ing time.

        Now all we need is for Dave to do his research and see that Ronnie Reagan was not a fool but was an intelligent pragmatist who had more in common with Ed Balls than Dave, wee Georgie and Danny.

        A slight shift of current economic policy towards Balls please Dave, i.e. more intelligent cross party politics in the national interest.

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        • 59
          Ed Balls says:

          Schools must not produce winners.

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          • Tory ass wipe says:

            You can only win if you have a rich family.

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          • Sir William Waad says:

            Agreed – a posh schooling worked for Ed Miliband, David Miliband, Ed Balls, Harriet Harman, Hilary Benn, Douglas Alexander, Rosie Winterton. Peter Hain…….

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        • 63
          Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

          “Ronnie Reagan was not a fool but was an intelligent pragmatist who had more in common with Ed Balls”

          Did Ronnie Reagan dress up as a Nazi then?

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          • Anonymous says:

            No as a person from your country

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          • Historian says:

            Doo ur reeserch Blily.

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          • Mr Angry 69 says:

            If you don’t check your facts Billy you risk coming across as a member of rentamob.

            You can only engage in reasoned debate if you know what you’re talking about or have a reasonable grasp of the facts rather than perceptions, which while they might be widespread in some instances, might not necessarily be true or the whole picture.

            If you engage in reasoned debate based on ignorance you might as well just shout ‘hang ‘em’ in every new post and be dismissed as a dunderhead.

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        • 73
          Anonymous says:

          Only interest Clegg is interested in is

          1) Big car
          2) chafferer
          3) 100 + room house
          4) big salary
          5) start work at 10am and stop at 3pm
          6) shit load of free benifits

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          • labourunionsbbc we are one says:

            7) Reporters with big breasts.

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          • Senator Bloodn' Gore, says:

            Clegg wants to work until 3pm, that late? Shame on him, ‘we the management class’ start at 11am and go home in time for a little light lunch at 12.30pm.

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        • 75
          the only way is anal says:

          you must be deluded if you think that dave gives a shit about the national interest.

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          • Some Tory boyz are shit says:

            I think that Dave gives a truckload of shit about the national interest.

            Dave’s tragedy, apart from thus far being not that great, is that he’s trying to be Tony Bliar.

            What is it with PM’s trying to be other PM’s. Bliar tried to be the Iron Lady with tragic results and many deaths of innocents. Dave tried to be Bliar (according to recent channel 4 news) and completely marred his first year in office with ill thought out policies rushed through without consultation and due process and inevitable U turns.

            Dave mate, try and be the first Dave Cameron.

            Take your time, get the policies right and if the public see that you’re genuine in this and producing carefully thought out policies in the national interest rather than furthering personal vanity they’ll give you another term.

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    • 10
      Anon says:

      I bet he’ll just sit and fume at how bastard MPs have voted in the national interest rather than his Eurocareer interest.

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      • 32
        misterned says:

        Why should he worry? If this goes to a vote in the house, it will be passed by a decent majority. The MPs in the commons are far more pro EU than the people who elected them.

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    • 11
      Anonymous says:

      Bend over for Europe as usual?

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    • 18
      Euro Dave says:

      He ‘s out in Stan. Saw him on the Telly this morning saying that Karzai was a personal friend.

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    • 96
      The voice of unreason says:

      This must surely rank as one of those very rare occasions when Labour MP’s vote in the national interest, rather than their own!

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    • 111
      Righty Right Wing (Mrs) says:

      What will rusty Dave do now?

      What ever Brussells tells him to do.

      The IMF is being used as nothing more than a slush fund to prop up the Euro – with an extra £9 billion of British taxpayers cash.

      Blue Labour out.

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    • 123
      Crikey says:

      Labour trying to put Dave on the spot. If McDoom was giving our money away as he and Blair loved to do there wouldn’t be a peep out of them.

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  2. 2
    Brillo grills says:

    Peta Buscombe on Daily Politics is odious but she has great legs.

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    • 21
      Poser says:

      And She knows it. It’s no accident that she is wearing that short skirt and flashing her thighs to the camera and Brillo.

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    • 104
      East Midlander says:

      She may in your opinion have got greatt legs but that does not balance her ugly self satisfied face and her total incompetence in running the Murdoch controlled “Press Non Complaints Commission. Was the person who appointed her the same one who appointed that other ugly Marxist “Lady EU Commissar”

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  3. 3
    SocialGhism says:

    “Not a penny more” should be the mantra!

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  4. 4
    Observer says:

    Don’t give taxpayers’ billions to the IMF.

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  5. 5
    Mjolinir says:

    First? – my life is complete.
    (In politics, always remember to ‘object to’ whatever your opponents suggest – THEN read the suggestion)

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    • 8
      Mjolinir says:

      And, in blogging, NEVER waste that golden moment reading the topic before hitting ‘Submit’.

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    • 22
      Maximus says:

      But your post is here. The one and only time I was ever first, Guido wiped me out before I’d thought to get a screen cap. At least the grandchildren will have a story…

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  6. 6
    Albert Hall says:

    Labour- national interest, an oxymoron surely.

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    • 25
      Maximus says:

      There may be an exception here: they have a score to settle from the ’70s when the IMF flew in and exposed their economic incompetence.

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      • 86
        Albert Hall says:

        Fair point. It’s all coming back to me now, another master of fiscal incompetence was in charge then, Denis the menace Healey. Labour have a knack of knocking out this level of mismanagement, they are quite good at it.

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        • 92
          Mike Hunt says:

          And it’s far worse this time because the voting public took longer to see their incompetence and gave them more time to make a REAL arse of it.

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  7. 7
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    “pliant ”

    Is that the right word? If so what does it mean?

    On topic

    A silent vote? WTF ??????

    No, lets have a full debate on the floor of the commons, the whips should be given the day off and let the MPs justify thier vote to thier voters.

    Memo to MPS

    IT IS NOT YOUR MONEY TO PISS AWAY, IT IS TAXPAYERS!

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    • 17
      2nd note to MPs says:

      It’s not Dave’s interests you should have at heart, so ignore him and the fecking whips and vote in your constituents’ interests.

      NO MORE MONEY TO THE EU.

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    • 20
      Sir William Waad says:

      It means ‘buy a dictionary’ or use http://www.dictionary.com.

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      • 37
        misterned says:

        adjective
        1.
        bending readily; flexible; supple; adaptable: She manipulated the pliant clay.
        2.
        easily influenced; yielding to others; compliant: He has a pliant nature.

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  8. 12
    Brillo grills says:

    Esther Rancid on Daily Politics. I read once that she began every production meeting for That’s Life with “What spastics have you found for this week’s show?” Charming lady.

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    • 33
      Joss Ayinglike says:

      Wasn’t she instrumental in bringing Childline to the Nation ? A great tool for wayward kids to use in order to stop parental control from being exerted, ‘ Cos I’ll phone Childline’.

      Thank you, Esther Rancid.

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      • 51
        misterned says:

        And let’s not forget that Childline has also stopped and prevented a load of kids being physically and sexually abused too. That has got to be a good thing.

        Any decent parent will have nothing to fear from Childline. If you raise your children to be respectful; understand both rights and responsibilities; know right from wrong and teach them that for actions, there are appropriate consequences and if you punish them, then you explain what they did wrong, why it was wrong, what the consequences of that action could be, and why they need to be punished… Likewise when they achieve something worthy, then they get praise, and appropriate reward with all the same explanations, then the child will grow up OK.

        It’s not rocket science.

        It’s a real shame that Childline was necessary in the first place.

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        • 82
          Mike Hunt says:

          It has also made parents afraid to instil any discipline into their offspring which in the long run will harm them far more.

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          • misterned says:

            It has not made any decent parents scared to instil discipline at all. Appropriate discipline is legal, and administered correctly with compassion, love, justice and reason is essential for raising decent rounded kids.

            When people use Childline and PC nonsense as an excuse to let their brats run riot, then they are causing their kids more harm in the long-run.

            So many feckless parents refuse to accept that they are at fault and wrongly think that it is the system which prevents discipline. BOLLOCKS!

            It is the responsibility of parents to (A) take the time and effort to know and understand what sort of child they have. (B) use strategies and tactics and tools which work, which are appropriate for that child. and (C) consistently apply the above with love, understanding, reason and in a just way.

            Some children are the type which can be reasoned with and physical discipline does not work with them at all, ever! It just makes them worse.

            Others ONLY react favourably to physical discipline, so long as it is explained why they are punished. Others are a bit of a mixture. Physical discipline should be used very very rarely.

            By way of example, my Brother and I growing up were totally different. When we were very young, if I had done wrong, a smack on the legs, or hand taught me it was wrong, and I would never do it again. If I thought I would get a smack, I would not do it.

            If my Brother was smacked, it made him more determined to do even more wrong. If it was explained to him, what and why, then he would apologise and not do it again. Smacking did NOT work at all with my brother, but it prevented me from being far far worse.

            If I was not smacked, I would think I “got away with it” and carry on, until I got smacked. A smack made me listen and realise it was wrong. I was like that until I was about seven or eight.

            All kids are different and all react differently to different types of discipline.

            There is no excuse for beating a child. Bringing out welts, or causing bleeding is wrong, but a smack on the legs never did me any harm at all. Although it has caused harm to others.

            The parent should know their kids and know what works.

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    • 78
      Stan Butler says:

      Every time I see her face I’m always reminded of that dog that said ‘sausages’ on That’s Life! That and Doc Cox with his infamous song.

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      • 94
        Steve Miliband says:

        So we phoned the gas board

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      • 105
        Afghanistan Banana Stand says:

        I remember that Yorkie and his ‘zozzajezz’ !
        .. and there was an old dog who could do simple maths – barking the results!

        Wasn’t there an old biddy (Annie?) who was always giving her opinions on current matters?
        IIRC she died during one of the shows runs and they did a short memorial to her.

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      • 110
        Odd Odour says:

        I’m either dead or not very well.

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  9. 13
    Penfold says:

    A Black Day for UK and great shame.

    Those voting for this Stat instrument should now be impeached.

    They should be reported to the MET’s Fraud Squad as having entered into and undertaken a fraudulent investment scheme.

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  10. 14
    head balls says:

    in dave we trust! to completely fuck it up and sell us down the river………take the mask off blair,we know its you really

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  11. 15
    Noise Abatement says:

    Do they normally vote noisily then?

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  12. 16
    Sir William Waad says:

    £9.5 billion means that’s about £155 from each person in the UK down the sough. Cheers Mr/s committee member – any time I can return the favour, please let me know.

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    • 26
      Charity begins at home. says:

      It’s quite sick making really as only yesterday Dave’s government said they couldn’t find £2 billion to look after elderly Britons.

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      • 69
        misterned says:

        I remember seeing LOTS of news article saying the opposite yesterday. That the Government welcomed the report and wanted to put something in place as sooon as possible, to stand the test of time and that they were looking forward to getting round the table with labour to draft up a cross-party solution to this problem once and for all.

        Labour’s response on the TV news was “We do not know whether to accept or reject these proposals in this report.” They were totally clueless.

        Honestly, I remember in the run-up to the 1997 election, labour kicking seven shades of shit out of the tories over how unfair it was for people to be forced to sell their own homes, which that had spent a lifetime working hard and paying taxes, to have something to hand on to their children…

        13 years later? Labour had done NOTHING on this. Not a damn thing!

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        • 95
          Mike Hunt says:

          House owners don’t vote Liebour, that’s why.

          In addition, pensioners don’t make such good telly as shiny new schools and hospitals (bought on the never-never)

          It’s not what you do, it’s how it looks on telly was their mantra.

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      • 113
        East Midlander says:

        Wavy Davey wants plaudits from around the world for giving our elderly citizens money to be stolen by dictators and assorted fraudsters

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    • 28
      Ex-Conservative Voter says:

      I’ve seen a few stats over the last few days, the last (in yesterday’s Telegraph) said £5bn = £200 per household, so £9.5bn is £380 per household. On top of £440 in foreign aid (£11bn p/a) and £532 for EU membership (£13.3bn). What did we give Ireland? £7bn? £280 per household.

      So if we’d got a proper Conservative PM in May 2010, instead of the spendaholic socialist fuckwit and spineless coward ‘U-Turn’ Dave, each household would be at least £1,632 better off by now.

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      • 34
        A Chav says:

        Loverly juberly, that’s more money for 42″ Plasmas, ringtones and tatoos

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      • 43
        Selohesra says:

        and the per household stats disuise the fact that most of the households in Scotland, Wales the North etc are trousering benefits like there is no tomorrow so it is mugs like us who have to pick up the tab many times over

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        • 48
          Mike Hunt says:

          Sadly true, and I am about the biggest mug of all, I have never worked for the state in any form – so that’s my future screwed.

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  13. 24
    TheRagingTory says:

    Everyones Eurosceptic in opposition

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  14. 27
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    If Ed Miliband had any sense, he should go for this at PMQS, all 6 questions.

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    • 30
      EdMiliband says:

      I have to repeat everything six times
      I have to repeat everything six times
      I have to repeat everything six times
      I have to repeat everything six times
      I have to repeat everything six times
      I have to repeat everything six times

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    • 46
      RedTeddyband says:

      Thith ith a good idea. “Mithter Thpeeker, doeth the Pwime Minithter know the nameths of Dominic Thtrauth Khanths caths

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  15. 31
    NB says:

    Seriously guys if we didn’t pay our IMF subscriptions we’d be a global laughing stock. And if the markets thought for one moment that there was a real problem we’d be dead.

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    • 49
      Moley. says:

      But why has our contribution been raised by a higher percentage than anyone else’s?

      Is the IMF Osborne’s plan B?

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      • 64
        Steve Miliband says:

        Best ask the previous Govt – they agreed it

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        • 84
          the only way is anal says:

          poor old dave, elected (or not) prime minister 14 months ago and still not able to influence events.

          he needs to be a bit careful, as people may ask at some point in the next 46 months, whether there is anything that he call call his own – other than our successful, cost-effective intervention that toppled gadhafi.

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    • 77
      Anonymous says:

      Who gives a damn about what the ‘globe’ thinks. They won’t even vote for us at Eurovision.

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    • 114
      East Midlander says:

      Total rubbish, only Wavey Davey worries what the world thinks of us, we and the Yanks saved the world.

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  16. 35
    That's the way to do it. says:

    “Dismissal letters have been sent to about 6,500 Shropshire Council employees, the BBC understands.
    The letter states that all council staff will be dismissed on 30 September and immediately rehired, but only if they agree to a 5.4% pay cut.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-14028188

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    • 53
      Selohesra says:

      and unions considering strike ballot – well after they’ve been sacked I doubt we will care if they are on strike

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    • 58
      Maximus says:

      There is no free market in workers’ labour then. Do the tories know about this?

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    • 74
      Stan Butler says:

      Sounds like a private sector approach. Three times in my career I’ve had to reapply for my own job because of reorganisations. Normal practice in the real world.

      I wonder how many ‘Pilgrims’ will get the chop in this restructure?

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      • 100
        Sir William Waad says:

        It’s funny how the bosses ever have to re-apply for THEIR jobs.

        Will the Staffordshire Councillors all resign and put themselves up for election with a cut in their allowances?

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        • 108
          South of the M4 says:

          The project management world has changed Stan BW. Positions offered today are £5k-£10k p/a below that of one year ago. It is an employers market today – in the private sector anyhow.

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        • 122
          Barry says:

          All Councillors are on a fixed term 4 year contract, and have to re-apply every four years to the electorate.
          Upo to others and the electorate to make the changes.

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        • 125
          Sir Roger Heygarston says:

          Although you are a man of wide and varied experience, Sir William, may I respectfully put forward my view that you are not correct in the statement that bosses never have to reapply for their jobs.
          I know of situations where Directors downwards have had to re-apply. For a good many years now, an employees contract isn’t really worth the paper it’s written on, unless they are in public service. Now even that is changing, as the waters of Lake Real World begin to lap around the ankles of those who thus far, have led a somewhat sheltered existence

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  17. 40
    Steve Miliband says:

    A This was agreed in 2009
    B It is a loan from Treasury reserves and accrues interest
    C It’s not big and it’s not clever
    D But it’s not giving Billions away to Greece

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  18. 42
    Smig says:

    This is thinking ahead by the Liebour shitbags.

    They know that if ever in the next three years we have to go on the beg to the IMF, we’re now going to be told to fuck off.

    Then they’ll crow about Tory financial incompetence.

    Devious, insidious bastards the lot of ‘em.

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  19. 45
    Mike Hunt says:

    To quote St Margaret:

    NO, NO, NO.

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  20. 52
    Maximus says:

    A silent vote is not going to send any messages, anywhere. It should be a cacophonous (sorry Billy) vote in secret. Followed forthwith by a vote of no confidence in this condem’d farce of a “government”.

    New Shorter OED: government

    A n. 1 The action of governing; continuous exercise of authority over subjects; authoritative direction or regulation; control; chiefly spec. the action of governing the affairs of a State; political rule and administration. LME.

    meh

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  21. 55
    Brillo grills says:

    I bet Peta Buscombe gives good head.

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    • 88
      the only way is anal says:

      used to, but she’s got a lot of miles on the clock these days

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      • 112
        South of the M4 says:

        Looks like she has blown a gasket to me.

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        • 115
          Afghanistan Banana Stand says:

          I’ve just done a google image search on the fragrant Peta.
          In among lots of pics of her was one of Ryan Giggs.

          I think we should be told….

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  22. 61
    Gordon Brown MP{retired} says:

    As head of the IMF I am in favour

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  23. 62
    Ted Heath says:

    The EU’s great.

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  24. 66
    Billy Blofeld says:

    The real shocker is that Labour voted in the national interest.

    Their previous voting priorities had been – in order:

    1. TB versus GB
    2. Labour party interest
    3. Europe

    Don’t ever remember them doing anything for us before?

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  25. 67
    loungelizard says:

    Look on the bright side, Gordon Brown didn’t get the job!

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  26. 80
    Tom Baldwin says:

    Ed Miliband will indeed utilise this at tomorrows PMQ’s.

    David Cameron’s face will be redder than usual

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    • 90
      Moley. says:

      Clegg’s will be the face to watch.

      If the socialist vote had a choice as to whether to support a pro EU (Lib Dem) party or an anti EU (Labour) Party where would you put your money?

      It is the cross party consensus FOR the EU which has been so profoundly poisonous for democracy.

      Are the Lib Dems about to be destroyed?

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    • 126
      East Midlander says:

      His red face will match his Euro Socialist attitude

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  27. 81

    Unless this country get’s its act together properly we are going to need the IMF before too long so we have to stay in. But this is too much of an increase, its ridiculous.
    Don’t be complacent – it wasn’t too long ago that Britain got a loan from the IMF. Spending cuts need to be deeper and pension reforms have barely scratched the surface of whats needed.
    http://tory-inquisitor.blogspot.com

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  28. 85
    cheche says:

    Government is worried that elderly people will emigrate to Somalia to live there. You can do pretty well on a state pension. You get lots of aid workers to look after you and you have more chance on getting back the money you paid in to the British state’s coffers over a life time than if you live here.

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  29. 89
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Stop these bailouts

    93p per £1 goes to fraudsters

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  30. 93
    labourunionsbbc we are one says:

    Re Guedo’s tweat:
    “Faced with eurosceptic Labour Party v europhile Tory Party would vote for the socialists.

    Got me thinking, could I vote for mug faced millimong, balls arseface et al, if they went all eurosceptic?

    Tough one, but truth is I just wouldn’t believe them. They lie. So answer is no.

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  31. 98
    VISA says:

    Being as we don’t actually have £9.5 billion to give to the IMF and will have to borrow it, how much is it really costing?

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    • 128
      Dave Cameron's Hypnotherapist says:

      And as we are lending it to the IMF, what is the interest rate that we get? If the IMF lend it at say 5% to a country that is sure to go bust, then we would want at least 25% return. Is it just me or is someone going to come a cropper here?

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  32. 99
    Anonymous says:

    Tony Blair lives on in No 10

    Cameron really is the heir to Blair.

    EUROSCEPTIC IN SPEECHES. FULLY COMPLIANT IN EU ACTIONS.

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  33. 116

    Labour gets something right?! I don’t believe it.

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  34. 120
    Stalked by Edinburgh dogshit says:

    Typical. If labour were not in opposition they would all be for it. Alastair Darling signed us up to bailing the Greeks out and a fat lot of good that did

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  35. 124
    Marcus Aurelius says:

    publish the names of the traitors that voted to siphon more money off to the New World Order

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  36. 127
    MAD FRANKIE HADDOCK son of COD says:

    Cameron is a lying low life scheming European Arse licker !
    we need rid of him Now !
    Before he sells us out completely

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