June 28th, 2011

The Strike Leaders’ Gold Tinted Shades

Tory backbencher Dominic Raab has come out fighting in the Telegraph against the taxpayer funding of union staff. The “why should we pay for their strike action” camp is growing.

With convenient timing the Taxpayers’ Alliance have released their annual union fat-cats rich list. Thirty-seven trade union leaders take home more than £100,000. This adds up to over £4.6 million, up 5.4% in a year. And look how well our strike leaders are doing:

With remuneration like that, no wonder they are blind to the chaos that a one day strike will cause families up and down the country, who can only dream of that sort of money…


169 Comments

  1. 1

    Thought for the unions:
    Learn from the mistakes of others… you can’t live long enough to make them all yourselves.

  2. 2
    @Kilkeal says:

    Do they get pensions (funded or unfunded)?

  3. 3
    Senator Bloodn' Gore, says:

    Just waiting to see all those teachers who will no longer stay in the ‘profession’ because of pensions and retirement age move to the private sector and fail. Don’t think that their union reps will help much then.

  4. 4
    Gweeedo says:

    Fat Cats – is scenonimouse with company bosses taking millions…..

    Can we establish a new monica (not lewinsky) as being “Fat Rats” – union boses who are making more than thier members and the PM – and who are having greater than average pay rises and whose pensions are not being eroded
    ;)

  5. 5
    Ivan Agenda says:

    The perks far outweigh their stated remuneration.

  6. 6
    Malcolm Redfellow says:

    My, my… shlock, horror!

    It takes four TU leaders to earn as much as one Blasted Boris aide.

    Shurely, shomething wrong?

  7. 7
    MAD FRANKIE HADDOCK (not Maude) son of COD says:

    “Onion” officials still get paid when everybody else does not
    Also it is really looked down on if people book the day as a holiday as the unions want everybody to suffer as a result of action ,
    except themselves of course !

  8. 8

    Yes, they are rather like footballers without balls.

  9. 9
    Grammar School Boy says:

    Professional aren’t in Trades’ Unions. The clue is in the name; Trade. Trade by name and trade by nature.

    My, and how they act as tradesmen…and set a terrific example to the pupils in their most formative years.

    Roll on Thursday.

  10. 10

    Morning mate! They didn’t have union leaders down them their bronze mines, I will wager. Neither diversity co-ordinators nor compliance officers.

  11. 11
    jgm2 says:

    The union reps are at least paid from member’s subscriptions. Okay, they’d be paid a lot less if they had to fund the Pilgrims of their world to agitate and destroy the public service they allegedly serve.

    But there’s no grey area as to who is paying c*unts of this ilk….

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-13926606

    That’ll be Tory West Sussex then.

  12. 12
    warwick hunt says:

    Fat shats???

  13. 13
    COMRADE BOB CROW (ANNUAL SALARY £254,978) says:

    I AM MUCH MORE RICHER THAN FORKS SES. & MUCH MORE RICHER THAN U.

    “As of 2009, Bob Crow’s basic salary at RMT was £94,747; a 12% increase from the previous year. His entire pay package with bonuses and pensions was £254,978; on top of this he claimed £9,989 in expenses and £2,376 in travel costs, taking his total income to £145,548″

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Crow

  14. 14
    BOB coCROWch says:

    ‘The travelling public can kiss my arse,
    I quaff champagne from a crystal glass’

  15. 15
    Grumpy Old Man says:

    What Do WE Want?
    Union Leaders on Strike Pay.
    When Do We Want It?
    NOW!!

  16. 16

    BMA is a trade union by another name, as is the Law Society.

  17. 17
    sockpuppet #4 says:

    “With remuneration like that, no wonder they are blind … ”

    So we shouldnt have anyone rich in politics either then?

  18. 18
    jgm2 says:

    It’s worse than that. It’s a closed shop.

  19. 19
    sockpuppet #4 says:

    I don’t know how that ended up in that part of the page.

  20. 20

    A rather nice irony to this article is that there is a picture of the Parthenon on a link to the side!

  21. 21
    Koba says:

    I would volunteer to do strike-breaking, anybody else like minded? How could we organise and army of people’s friends?

  22. 22
    MAD FRANKIE HADDOCK (not Maude) son of COD says:

    Your right mate ! that was in the day when men were men
    nowadays they are all sheep and will do anything they are told to because they are frightened to speak out
    back in the 70’s and 80’s i worked for local authorities which were closed shop set up’s Meaning you could not work there if you did not join them
    and only joined the union for six months out of 20 years but i refused
    they tried without success to get people to refuse to work with me
    But failed !

  23. 23
    Grumpy Old Man says:

    It would have been impossible. Bronze is a man-made allot, not a mined metal.

  24. 24
    sockpuppet #4 says:

    euch. When I read that a little bit of estuarine was in my head.

  25. 25
    Fat Rat says:

    Never mind the 6 figure salaries a lot of these clowns are living in council houses to boot…

  26. 26

    Crikey! It’ll be the House of Commons Cricket team, next… ;-)

  27. 27
    Tom Baldwin says:

    Dave”Fatty” Cameron has just checked in to ‘rehab’ after learning Thorntons Chocolates have just gone into administration .

  28. 28
    Anonymous says:

    If “rich” before they enter politics ~ok !
    If “getting rich” because of politics ~ NOT ok !

  29. 29
    Sleepless in Kirkaldy says:

    Professional Association of Teachers are not striking. My wife has been a member for 20 years. She didn’t consider joining the NUT as she saw it as part of the problem with the profession

  30. 30
    Engineer says:

    Suspect strongly that any public-sector teacher leaving to seek a better pension in the private sector will be scuttling back with their tail between their legs in very short order.

  31. 31
    jgm2 says:

    Only something like 1 in 8 teachers is a member of the union going on strike. You’d think they’d be able to keep the show on the road with 7 out of 8 teachers not on strike.

    Anyway, it’s the end of the school year. kids don’t do fuck all except pop-quizzes and crosswords and suchlike now the exam season is over. It’s not like they’re missing any ‘learning’.

  32. 32
    Cato Street Conspirator says:

    I really have to laugh at this sudden concern about ‘the chaos that a one day strike will cause families up and down the country’. What effect exactly do you think that the chaos caused by the bankers’ greed has had on families ‘up and down the country’?

  33. 33
    BOB coCROWch says:

    AND I rent a low cost Cahncil ‘Ahrse.

  34. 34
    The Scarlet Pimple (on Browns Ar_se) says:

    It was reported some time ago that Derek Simpson had use of a free union house that he refused to leave.

  35. 35
    bergen says:

    Well done Guido.Your Pilgrim campaign seems to have taken off and gone “mainstream.”

    You’ll be off the Christmas card list of Congress House after this.

  36. 36
    Lord Ashcroft says:

    A strike by up to 750,000 bankers and hedge fund managers is set to go ahead after crunch talks with the Government today failed to end a bitter row over bonuses and tax free perks.

  37. 37
    jgm2 says:

    Nothing like the chaos caused by the previous government’s economic incompetence.

  38. 38
    MAD FRANKIE HADDOCK (not Maude) son of COD says:

    Now don’t split hairs Mr Grumpy
    both copper and tin are mined albeit not from the same one what ar moniker is referring too is some bronze age mines on the great orm in Wales
    i don’t discriminate between mines i try to get down them all !

  39. 39
    Jane Pig Grim says:

    Bastard !

  40. 40
    jgm2 says:

    Wasn’t that Arthur Scargill? Some flat at the Barbican that he never visits – just in case he needed somewhere to stay when he was agitating so skilfully for his one out-all out philosophy of industrial relations.

    Well, they’re all out now Arthur. Except Arthur himself. Still won’t give up the flat.

    It’s his ‘right’ innit. It’s in the contract see.

  41. 41
    @Kilkeal says:

    That’s not what causes blindness.

  42. 42
    COMRADE BOB CROW (ANNUAL SALARY £254,978) says:

    WOT A PILUK. CHOKLIT IS 4 WIMMIN.

    REEL MEN CONSOOM SHAMPAIN.

  43. 43

    I realise that, GOM. Frankie and I have these silly threads that we carry on which have become traditional.

    BTW Here is that other link we were talking about a while ago:

    http://order-order.com/2011/06/13/rich-marks-monday-morning-view-112/#comment-977207

  44. 44
    A Pensioner says:

    Correct: factor in the council houses, pensions, credit cards, and all the other freebies, the salary is just a token.

    Why isn’t HMRC looking into benefits in kind with these fat cun’ts?

  45. 45
    Selohesra says:

    I wonder what performance measure he has for his bonus? – number of days of industrial action or the success rate of the strikes? – still quietly satisfying to realise that he is paying the 50% tax rate like us city spivs and bankers.

  46. 46
    jgm2 says:

    Aye. Champagne for everybody. Yet he couldn’t wait to get in a dig at ‘posh’ champagne-swilling Ian Hislop while he was demonstrating what an incoherent oaf he was on HIGNFY.

  47. 47
    Trollspotter says:

    Sooo.. not enjoying opposition, then?

  48. 48
    Sir William Waad says:

    Yes, but they are also regulatory bodies that sometimes discipline doctors or lawyers when it is impossible to cover up what they’ve done and they are not very important.

  49. 49
    Jane Pig Grim says:

    ‘Royal’ College of Nursing = Union.

  50. 50
    annette curton says:

    A Safe House?.

  51. 51
    Anonymous says:

    I wonder how Lord Mandelson managed to acquire a £2.4 million house in Regent’s Park while still an active politician in ministerial office, and thus not able to make speeches to get extra cost. He certainly did not inherit it.

  52. 52
    I don't need no doctor says:

    If the unions can pay their leaders these unwarranted sums then they can pay the “pilgrims” out of union funds. Why should the taxpayer pay?
    The union leaders really are hypocritical scum, how dare they talk about fairness.
    Union leader mantra “Do as I say comrade not as I do”.

  53. 53
    Sir William Waad says:

    Here’s a little thought: a teacher’s strike gives a further advantage to children at posh schools. whose teachers go on working normally.

    All strikes have the same slogan: “We should have more money and you should have less.”

  54. 54
    Grumpy Old Man says:

    Alloy – too many buttie crumbs in the keyboard.

  55. 55
    Witty Commentator No 32 says:

    This is bollocks Guido!

    Focus on fat cat council chiefs where over 200K is the norm.

    NOT JUST 5, ONE IN EVERY COUNTY!

    People have a choice if they want to contribute to a Union (god help them) not so with the pay grade of Local Council Troughers

  56. 56
    Sir William Waad says:

    Anyone can become a banker or hedge fund manager. It isn’t a closed shop. They don’t care what accent you have. You just need to be greedy, hard-working and moderately talented.

  57. 57
    boulay says:

    surely any union officials should also not be paid on days when their union is on strike. not only would this make them think more carefully about calling strikes but it would help them to feel at one with their comrades….

  58. 58
    Master_Rick says:

    186,616 Per Annum!!

    That’s an amazing 511 quid a day

    I’d be very surprised if tax-man walks off with his full 50% either.

  59. 59
    Hugh Janus says:

    Bar Council = barristers’ union for England and Wales.

  60. 60
    I don't need no doctor says:

    The bankers never talked about fairness. Your union leaders are just hypocritical beyond belief, high unwarrented salaries plus subsidised housing. Reminds me of the polit bureau, eh comrade?

  61. 61
    jgm2 says:

    Yep – sorry for the repeat but here is my local council.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-13926606

    Now if they’re really going to ‘save’ 900K a year forever for a one-off pay-off of 1.5 million then it might make economic sense. But you just know they’ll simply change the job-title and hire some other useless c*unt on exactly the same T&C.

  62. 62
    MAD FRANKIE HADDOCK (not Maude) son of COD says:

    Too true mate if we had to stick to facts then these threads would be Soooooo boring the fun part is we have freedom of speech to say what the hell we want, factual or not
    and long may that continue !

    Oh by the way Emily would like to know “Which is your favourite end in a Spit Roast” ? lol

  63. 63
    I don't need no doctor says:

    Good point, just how much tax do they pay?

  64. 64
    jgm2 says:

    Not on Thursday of this week they don’t. Half day and end of term any way at St Cakes for my kids.

  65. 65
    jgm2 says:

    Another closed shop.

  66. 66
    Phoney Tony Bliar says:

    I am never relaxed about being filthy rich – I and my horrendous wife spend every waking moment trying to think up new ways of ripping off anyone and everyone. No job is too small for an obscenely huge fee, and if it involves taxpayers’ cash then it brings with it enormous job satisfaction, too. Scamming our millions and our 7 properties is not exactly a relaxing pastime, let me assure you.

  67. 67
    MAD FRANKIE HADDOCK (not Maude) son of COD says:

    Yes they suffer from the crumb problem down the Jam Butty Mines of Liverpool !

    HI ! HO !
    see you later !

  68. 68
    smoggie says:

    Wonder if he’s sublet it? Nice little earner that would be.

  69. 69

    They don’t call me bifurcated for nothing. I can furc both at once!!!

  70. 70
    MAD FRANKIE HADDOCK (not Maude) son of COD says:

    Your just greedy !

  71. 71
    Steve Miliband says:

    I blame the Global recession on overpaid footballers

  72. 72
    Anon says:

    There’s a picture of you in the DM today, with your dog taking you for a walk. you could do with it too, you lard-arse. At least the dog knows where it’s going.

  73. 73
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Warning to the regs on this blog, Mossad have planted several of my cockpuppets on here to reduce the devustating efectiveness of my blogging…….just sayin’.

  74. 74
    tory right winger says:

    I have always been an advocate of banning strikes that affect frontline public services and this week’s pending industrial action simply underlines why.

    The people who are taking part are greedy, ignorant and above all continue to fail to understand the scale of the mess that the last Labour Government left behind.

    Just one look at the current failed economic policy of the Obama regime underlines why tax and spend always fails.

    In the USA despite an economic stimulus of over 600 million dollars unemployment has risen.

    Here in the UK, thanks to the Conservative austerity measures including making public sector pensions fairer for the taxpayer that subsidises them the private sector has returned to growth and unemployment is falling.

    The only reason why these people are striking is because its in their own vested interests so in my opinion those who do strike should be made to re-apply for their jobs.

  75. 75
    Anon says:

    And when you have finished with the glass, we will stuff it up your …..

  76. 76
    jgm2 says:

    After 100-plus years of trade unionism and all the dues and fees and suchlike they must have collected over the years you’d think they would have bought the fucking factories and mines they worked in for themselves by now. Then they really would own the means of production.

    But of course not. What they really want is for us, the tax-payer, to buy the means of production and keep the fuckers (and their kids and their grandkids) there in perpetuity at the same manning levels and ratchetting up their T&C to the detriment of the poor bastards who have to pay for it all. Us.

    Public sector unions are the enemy of the management – ie the taxpayers ie US.

    Come on NUT. Why don’t you open some schools and show us how the education sector should be run instead of devoting all your energies to fucking up the schools that we own.

  77. 77
    Anon says:

    And their holidays of 3 months per year are simply are not long enough. Give them a break!

  78. 78
    sockpuppet #4 says:

    Ha. I knew that wouldnt be popular.

    MPs and cabinet ministers are highly motivated to avoid ordinary people and their daily woes (unless it makes a good photo op).

    They should be prodded about this at all times.

  79. 79
    Jess The Dog says:

    How many of these unions represent public services?

    Take RMT for example. Network Rail is a limited company and the TOCs are private companies. These are not public sector workers! The TOCs should seek interdicts and injunctions to stop any strike and seek damages through the courts from RMT assets.

  80. 80

    I’d like to fuck that Jane Pilgrim.

    With a mechanical shovel.

  81. 81
    The Scarlet Pimple (on Browns Ar_se) says:

    Well aware of Scargill, I believe the story is that while leader he had free use of a large union paid house. And that on stepping down, thought he should have continual use of the house?

  82. 82
    jgm2 says:

    They need three months holiday to make up for the horrendous 9.00 – 3.30 hours they’re forced to work.

    To be fair – it must be a bit more effort now than 30 years ago when some of my teacher’s ‘lessons’ consisted of opening up the exercise-book they had written their entire curriculum into thirty years prior and dictating it word-for-fucking-word.

    A successful year being defined by how closely your exercise book mimicked the teachers.

    The utterly fucking useless c*unts.

  83. 83
    Anonymous says:

    The councils need a whole flotilla of blogs alone to flush them out.

  84. 84
    Raving Loon says:

    The union leaders are stuck in an imaginary world of mid 19th century factory workers fighting oppressive task masters. I have absolutely no sympathy for them. Even an average salary pension scheme is still a defined benefit pension (as apposed to defined contribution) and has a level of security almost no-one in the private sector enjoys. I don’t care if my personal pension is subject to investment risk as to me it seems normal, but bugger paying taxes to fund a pension scheme better than my own. I don’t care if they are in a “public service” and may or may not deserve one. They can’t just hold the public to ransom over their special interests. Imagine if they had a “normal” pension where you chip in a % of your salary and invest it, hoping the pot at the end is good enough, but with no guarantees? I bet they would shit their pants, but that’s the real world dammit! Let them strike, and let people break it. I may be too young to remember the miners strike but I’m sick and tired of being screwed over by public sector unions who think they have a god given right to ruin my day!!!

  85. 85
    Backwoodsman says:

    Its not bollox, its called a target of opportunity ! Its the bulk of the pilgrims which we are forced to pay for, which is the primary target, the union leaders just happened to present themselves broadside on at close range.
    Agree with you entirely that the next target should be those jolly folks on £220,000 per anumn for organising the fortnightly bin collection. The whole fire proof local government setting their own salary levels scam, needs to be the next target.

  86. 86
    Raving Loon says:

    Hear hear!

  87. 87
    BOB coCROWch says:

    Free travel pass ??

  88. 88
    Bob and Red Robbo says:

    Let these fascists know who is in charge brothers and sisters, look what we did for British Leyland, the dockers, the miners!! Strike!!

  89. 89
    Anonymous says:

    It was a vintage piece of political theatre when a photocall by David Cameron and Nick Clegg at Guy’s Hospital was disrupted last week by a disgruntled surgeon objecting to the poor compliance of the camera crew with hygiene regulations. A clip of the incident went viral on Youtube.

    But it has ended badly for 57-year-old David Nunn, the orthopaedic surgeon blamed for startling the Prime Minister and his deputy, who has unexpectedly gone on leave, and for his NHS patients who now face longer waits to be seen by Mr Nunn’s hard-pressed colleagues.

    The hospital yesterday insisted that Mr Nunn’s sudden departure was at his own request. But a patient told The Independent a doctor in the ortho-paedic department had used the term “gardening leave” to explain Mr Nunn’s absence and claimed he had been “reprimanded” by managers at the trust.

  90. 90
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Guido

    You really think this will bring choas? Nah, Now if taxpayers went on a tax strike……….

  91. 91
    Joss Ayinglike says:

    The Kirkcaldy Kleptocrat has withdrawn his labour ( but still draws his MP salary ) since May 2010. That’s one public ‘servant’ who should be kept away from the levers of power forever.

  92. 92
    Anonymous says:

    How are you going to get round the CRB issue, ie working with children?

  93. 93
    sockpuppet #4 says:

    my brain, my brain. it hurts.

    This is much worse than Fake Billy’s Mac users.

  94. 94
    Gonk says:

    I would be pleased for my
    company to have an annual turnover,
    yes turnover of Simpson’s salary.
    Rife with self interest, delusion and
    wielding power, I think they’re mad as hell.

  95. 95
    see below says:

    Fuck off.

  96. 96
    Anonymous says:

    Absolutely. Guido Fawkes, the closest fuckwit tories ever come to having ideas.

    Ha ha ha

  97. 97
    Henry G says:

    Thursday’s planned industrial action is not a re-run of macho union struggles of the 1980s. This is Mumsnet with placards. The government’s proposals are of electoral significance and the beginning of one hell of a headache for David Cameron.

  98. 98
    Anonymous says:

    Tory fuckwit believes ConDem government statistics shock!

  99. 99
    Mrs F. Merritt says:

    What the union leaders earn is a pittance compared with what the fat-cat bankers earn and the “chaos” they may cause is a storm in a teacup compared with the devastation caused by the bankers behaviour.

  100. 100
    They're all the same says:

    When are the Tax Payers Alliance going to release their public-sector bankers fat cat list?

  101. 101
    Jess The Dog says:

    I can understand why people are angry, and I am angry myself. However, blaming the government is too late and pointless when Cameron and Osborne cuts are not that far off Darling’s proposals. The money has all been spent anyway. If people are angry at the banks, then they should vote with their bank balances and pull out of RBS etc. If people are angry at food and utilities prices, then shop somewhere else, choose another supplier or withhold payment for a month. They shouldn’t support union power politics, which is what this is all about.

  102. 102
    neil kinnock says:

    Amateurs, I’ll show them how its done boyo.

  103. 103
    Voice of Treason says:

    Yet despite all this, thousands of naive muppets will lose a day’s pay in support of their wealthy puppet masters (who won’t lose anything). Until the masses of fools wake up and stop following these hypocrites then more and more job losses will follow. I can hardly believe this silly sheep-like prats don’t learn from history – Scargill, Red Robbo, etc all of whom destroyed their industries just as sure as this lot will given time.

  104. 104
    jgm2 says:

    This is Mumsnet with placards.

    Isn’t ‘mumsnet’ a Guardian front organisation?

    Nobody (apart from public sector workers) has any sympathy at all for teachers. All they see are lazy fuckers with three months holiday a year, 6.5 hour days and a salary that most folk can only dream about demanding that the working class pay more tax to keep them in the manner to which they’ve become accustomed.

    Now, because of the closed bed-wetting circles Cameron inhabits he might waver a bit but if he does then he might as well quit and let Ned Balls take over.

    There is no point prolonging the economic meltdown a day longer. Just fucking get it over with while we’re all that much younger and able to try and rebuild after the Brownian rape of the UK.

  105. 105
    Fog says:

    Also in Sussex : Fareham Council are spending £340,000 installing solar panels on its council buildings.

    They are thinking of it as an investment, so they’re not concerned about the perverse incentive aspects of the scheme, which is simply an incentive to spend more on solar installations, even if the energy produced has very little value, and the pay-back comes from government subsidies, i.e. other tax payers money. It does nothing much to reduce energy demands from the grid.

  106. 106
    jgm2 says:

    The banker’s ‘chaos’ is a storm in a teacup compared to the chaos caused by the Maximum Imbecile and his Imbecile Labour government.

  107. 107
    Smig says:

    NUTters. Sums it up nicely.

  108. 108
    jgm2 says:

    Already done in our house.

  109. 109
    richard timney using a braile keyboard says:

    Tell me about it.

  110. 110
    Socialism Ate My Future says:

    That is a poorly constructed sentence.
    I take it you didn’t do too well in English?! Or are you teacher?

  111. 111
    Anonymous says:

    “scenonimouse”? Is that meant to be “synonymous”?

    You are Billy and I claim my £5.

    If not, you need to take spelling lessons from him.

  112. 112
    Sir Robert of Crow says:

    workAZ oV De wiRLd youNiTE!

  113. 113
    Tax Payer says:

    The first division civil service is also a union.

    We don’t often hear from them because, for obvious reasons, they are able to get what they want without shouting.

  114. 114
    jgm2 says:

    It’s fucking insane.

    Please tell me that at least we manufacture these ridiculous solar panels in the UK.

  115. 115
    Sir William Waad says:

    True, but irrelevant.

    It is necessary to cheat many public-sector workers on their pensions because past governments have made promises without any idea how they would fulfill them. The fault lies with those governments (both Tory and Labour) rather than with the present government that has at last decided to face the truth.

    Many private-sector workers have already been cheated in the same way and savers are being cheated by a combiantion of high inflation and artifically low interest rates.

  116. 116
    sockpuppet #4 says:

    Presumably the managers that gave him grief were the same managers that helped organise the PR “event” (I hesitate to use the word stunt).

    I wonder what was in it for the managers?
    I’d not have politicians in my hospital causing hassle, even if they were making some sort of statement about their severe chest pains.

  117. 117
    Anonymous says:

    How much money was wasted when these idiots (Cameron and Clegg) went to take photos in a hospital? Now more money is being wasted by sending this doctor home.

  118. 118
    Fake Billy Spotter says:

    Poor imitation, try harder.

  119. 119
    Jabba the Cat says:

    Coz that would amount to union brovers investigating union brovers, can’t have that.

  120. 120
    Fog says:

    Hampshire, close enough.

  121. 121
    annette curton says:

    Would this qualify as being an unofficial strike of one… ex- Prime Ministers grievance on being denied the right to save the world (again).

  122. 122
    Fog says:

    China

  123. 123
    P. Mandevilson, the Eminence Greasy says:

    ‘Haven’t the rich suffered enough ?’

  124. 124
    Pilgrim Father says:

    Guido.
    Since your attack on Pilgrims has touched a nerve, whatever happened to the Union Modernisation Fund, which as I recall enabled the the Labour Government to fund the Labour Party through a money go round system?
    We should be told…..

  125. 125
    misterned says:

    good idea. What with the Government opening free schools, the Union should open some and then give their staff the pay and perks that they think they can sustain.

    You hear of management buy-outs of companies, but never ever union buy-outs. I wonder why? Could it be that if the unions were also the owners, then they would have nobody to blame for unfortunate, but necessary cost restrictions and pay cuts but themselves? And they could never do that so they would end up blaming their customers.

  126. 126
    They're all the same says:

    “brownian rape”

    No-one likes Brown, but that’s absurd. Labour caused untold chaos with its neo-liberal economics and bribery of its core vote with public sector jobs and wages, but if you believe all this would have been much different with someone other than Gordon Brown you are delusional.

    The Tories will attempt to crowds please, but it is wedded to the same philosophy as Labour. It won’t do much more than trim at the state, not because it is scared of unions, but because it is wedded to a strong state, just as Labour was and is.

  127. 127
    sockpuppet #4 says:

    I believe that half the cost is to get the blokes up the ladders and wiring it in. these chaps are in the UK of course. But probably Polish. You wouldnt get me up a bloody ladder for that money.

  128. 128
    annette curton says:

    It’s WORKERS of the World, you nit!.

  129. 129
    Fred the Shred ( knighted by Gordon Brown ) says:

    But Gordon thinks I did a magnificent job and he opened Lehman Brothers’ building in Canary Wharf too. The Liebour party LOVED Bankers.

  130. 130
    Jabba the Cat says:

    If I may be permitted to collectivise this mornings thoughts, we get…

    The travelling public can kiss my arse,
    I quaff champagne from a crystal glass
    In my rented low cost Cahncil ‘Ahrse.
    And when I have finished with the glass,
    I will stuff it up your arse,
    And wipe it clean with a Free travel pass.

  131. 131
    conanthelibrarian says:

    Why not deem the strikers to have broken their contracts of employment and make them re-apply for their jobs?
    And the committees appointing staff would have a majority composition of outsiders/competent independent people ?
    We have to break the stranglehold on the public sector encouraged and financed by Labour in the past.
    Only then would common sense prevail.

  132. 132
    That's News says:

    I said this earlier, but it needs repeating 60% of the public, including trade union members do NOT back the strike! But it will go ahead and it will be claimed as a great victory!

    http://thats-business.blogspot.com/2011/06/majority-of-people-in-uk-do-not-support.html

  133. 133
    South of the M4 says:

    I believe that the main reason most will strike is because they have not been told the full facts as to how their exact pension benefit will alter. Not explained – or explanation suppressed? It is not nice, but much of the vitreol will dissipate once these facts are known. Nothing to do with political colour, we are just living longer -and something has to give. And that giving has to be fairly distributed. Successive governments have ignored the danger. Now it’s crunch time. If Cameron backs down it won’t be just the teachers who will hate him.

  134. 134
    misterned says:

    +1

  135. 135
    Bald Old Git says:

    Wasn’t he ‘president for life’?

  136. 136
    Benny Fitz-Crounger says:

    Will these highly paid men-of-the-people union barons be foregoing their own pay on the days when their members are not collecting theirs?

    Do you think?

  137. 137
    The Scarlet Pimple (on Browns Ar_se) says:

    I have a simple way of shutting them up and striking, they complain about their salaries, so tell them they will be paid private sector wages and they can also have private sector pensions.

  138. 138
    Grumpy Old Man says:

    The dress of the camera crew had already been cleared by the senior nursing officer in charge of the Ward, as there was no likelyhood that the crew would be in contact with patients. The Consultant overstepped his authority by sounding off about things outside his remit. Publicly questioning the decision of a colleague with executive authority is professional misconduct. Now piss off and find something else to tell half the story about.

  139. 139
    That's News says:

    Sorry! Slip of the finger. 68%. Which is even worse…

  140. 140
    The Scarlet Pimple (on Browns Ar_se) says:

    Isn’t ‘President for Life’ another name for a dictator.

  141. 141
    Grumpy Old Man says:

    Au contraire, dear chap. Hair splitting is the basis of civilised debate

  142. 142
    Anonymous Misogynist says:

    The Greeks will certainly be doing it..Some already are!!

  143. 143
    misterned says:

    Whilst I agree with your sentiment, I do not believe that a lawfully called strike is a breach of contract in the public sector.

  144. 144
    pierrepoint says:

    When did Drs last go on strike?
    As to a striking lawyer????

    what do we want?
    ” £500 an hour !”
    When do we want it?
    “Now !”

  145. 145
    Billy's bofriend has a cissy fit says:

    Of course it’s an imitation you fucking twat.

  146. 146
  147. 147
    the only way is anal says:

    from the BMA website

    “We are the independent trade union and professional association for doctors and medical students, with over 140,000 members worldwide.”

    anyone who confuses the BMA with a regulatory body must have a head full of rocks

  148. 148
    oink says:

    What about those greedy bastards, sorry, barristers, in Northern Ireland who are refusing to represent clients because their legal aid scam has been tightened up a bit.

  149. 149
    Anonymous says:

    The unions may be led by overpaid idiots, but that shouldn’t detract from the fact that the government is trying to impose a uniform pensions reform on all public sector workers. Whilst I fully agree people working in local government (like myself) and education should work till the national retirement age, it is not feasible to ask paramedics, nurses and quite a lot of others (e.g. firefighters) to work till 65+ as their jobs require a certain level of physical strength which many peopel lose at around that age.

  150. 150
    Grumpy Old Man says:

    a modicum of the devil’s own luck is also handy

  151. 151
    oink says:

    Did that woman on Newsnight say that teachers worked 38 weeks per year…and then have the gall to argue they were hard done by?

  152. 152

    Utterly tasteless. One may not speak higher than that.

  153. 153
    Anonymous says:

    or the current government

  154. 154
    the only way is anal says:

    the feeling was mutual – you can’t have too many useful idiots. Or assiduous arselickers – just look at this blog.

  155. 155
    Four-eyed English Genius says:

    I thought doctors and lawyers were more often disciplined by Miss Whiplash!

  156. 156
    Gweeedo says:

    Yup i meant – synonymous – but did it in a witty and funny way…. which you completely missed…..

    humorous posting abound in this forum.

    I am not billy !

    The main problem with guido’s excellent site is it does not force posting id’s so we have no idea if people posting with multiple id’s and if annonymous (the one who regulalry posts labour-style posts here and at bbc) is one and the same …. or different peeps….

    who cares about spelling – if you understood the massage ?

  157. 157
  158. 158
    Mouser self abuser ! says:

    Then they can retire on health ground after a full physical ! which they should get every year anyway and if they can be moved into less physical roles then they should do ! it’s not difficult but as they make up few of the total public sector burden we can still do something about the others who don’t sweat for us!!

  159. 159
    I don't need no doctor says:

    Mark Serwotka really is scum. Why do people like him even bother lying in the first place. Are the members of the union he represents really that stupid to not realise he is taking the piss?

  160. 160
    Gene Poole says:

    Common vermin anyone?

  161. 161
    BobRoberts says:

    Yeah. But it makes a total train wreck for the parents. I’m lucky enough that I can take the laptop home and look after our little girl for the day while the teachers are whining.

    Some of the other parents aren’t as lucky and have ended up suffering major disruptions because of this rubbish.

    It’d help if the school had kept us notified. They only let us know they were going to shut the place down after a meeting last night. 2 days notice. Cheers.

    To be fair, it just seems to have pissed off everyone locally. Nobody seems to have an ounce of sympathy for the grabby whiny gits.

  162. 162
    Member of English Liberation Army says:

    Doctors don’t need to go on strike. They all earn a minimum of £100,000 a year, courtesy of the tax payer and incompetent Government negotiating. What’s more they don’t even have to make house calls during the day or out of normal doctor’s hours. I nearly forgot, they can cherry pick their patients too, and remove you from their list if you complain.
    What does a GP do? Send you for tests or book you in for an examination by a hospital doctor or surgeon.

  163. 163
    A Solicitor says:

    Sir WW

    The Law Society is no longer a regulatory body. That function is now performed by the Solictors’ Regulatory Authority. Technically therefore, practising as a solicitor is no longer a profession because it is not self-regulated.

    As for these teachers claiming to be part of the “teaching profession”, teaching has never been a profession and certainly is not one today!

  164. 164
    Kered Ybretsae says:

    Champagne commies. Don’t do what we do……do what we sayOK!!!

  165. 165
    Audemus Dicere says:

    Send the kids to school anyway. Make the problem one for the “teachers” to solve, not you.

  166. 166
    Hugh Janus says:

    If Call Me Dave can actually get to grips with the Pilgrim problem – and that’s a big ‘if’ – then we have the opportunity to significantly weaken the unions by making them stump up for all these staff that we are paying for. It’s a no-brainer, but it remains to be seen whether this gutless – and allegedly Conservative – government has the backbone to end this stunning abuse of taxpayers’ cash. Somehow I doubt it, although I would really like to be proved wrong.

  167. 167
    HenryV says:

    What do you think……..?

  168. 168
    HenryV says:

    Unlike treacle.

  169. 169
    Bri says:

    Don’t forget the living arrangements that Simpson arranged for himself and his fancy piece, to continue after he stands down as head of Unite.
    You couldn’t make it up.
    NUM I hear was taking Scargill to court for the London flat that he is hanging on to, even though he is retired.
    I’m from Sheffield and I can’t forgive Simpson for being instrummental in closing down Arthur Balfour where many of my relations had jobs.
    He had them all out on strike and he had the cheek to go into the canteen and try and get a bacon sarnie. TOTAL HYPOCRITE.


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