June 15th, 2011

Labour Cancer Stitch Up Unravels

With Miliband using all of his questions at PMQs to pin down the Prime Minister on figures from Macmillan Cancer Care that suggest 7,000 patients will be losing out on benefits, the attack was clearly planned in advance. Suspiciously quickly, as in within three minutes after the PM sat down, Mike Hobday from Macmillan was on the Daily Politics defending Miliband’s use of their figures.

Convenient that Hobday was in place outside the Daily Politics and Sky Millbank studios immediately after PMQs…

What a coincidence that he’s a former Labour Party staffer and councillor. He stood for Labour in Welwyn Hatfield at the last election. Miliband denied his attack was a smokescreen, but Hobday just admitted to Sky that he was “pre-warned”. And the rest…

UPDATE: Theo Usherwood, a Press Association political reporter, says Macmillan sent out a statement on Miliband’s questions at 12.10 p.m., unprecedented partisan coordination from a major charity.


372 Comments

  1. 1
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Scum!

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      MrAngry61 says:

      Maybe so, but it did help RedEd to shine – at least by comparison to his usual lamentable performance.

      Still, 6 questions on an issue that affects 7,000 patients (or probably fewer) seems like a poor bang per buck.

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      • 33
        Philip McArthur says:

        Ed shone ??? Were you watching the same version of PMQs as me ?

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          crash says:

          There is acres of ground on the right for Labour to attack Dave on, EU bailouts, light sentencing etc. Cast iron U-turns left right and centre and Ed still can’t make any sense.

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          • Smig says:

            It’s because they’re “all in it together”. Not us. Just those at the top of the pile creating fake outrage to keep us from asking the real difficult questions.
            Red beats Blue.
            Blue beats Red.
            Repeat every four years in order to give us proles the appearance that we’re in charge.

            Shame shit, different rosette.

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        • 123
          Bill d'Sarse says:

          Yes, Ed shone.

          In the same way a lit candle shines in the Sahara Desert at noon on a bright summers day.

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        • 150
          Popeye says:

          The Politics show also said he was good, I often wonder if they have an alternative PMQ’s to me.
          Regarding the Macmillan chap, too obvious for words, they should consider his position, it could cost them dearly!

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          • JGS says:

            Macmiliband?

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          • No change there then says:

            Politics Show also had that hideous dwarf Blairs on, giggling away, hoping everyone has forgotten what a lying biatch she is.

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          • MaisieW says:

            I just email them that if they have started getting involved in politics ,they have had there last donation from me, plenty other goods causes

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          • Gideon pOshborn says:

            I doubt if any of you tory trolls have given a penny to a charity. You only believe in three things me! me! me!

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          • Noise says:

            There doesn’t seem much point giving money to British charities as a taxpayer. It is all doled out by force through tax anyway.

            At least in 3rd world countries they just want water, food and medicine when sick. The British poor seem to think Mcdonalds and foreign holidays are justifiable welfare rewards for ignoring their education and spaffing things up eternally.

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        • 205
          Drop a Daisy cutter on the BBC says:

          Ed shone in the same way dog shit shines.

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          Aunt Hilda says:

          not one we saw..Miliband is s dead duck running out of impetus fast. He just hasn’t got it…zilch force except pathetic tantrums at the despatch box when the other side jeer at his expediency.

          Neither he nor ed balls have what it takes to bring labour back from the abyss…unfortunately their core vote of the great unwashed at 35% ‘ish will probably hold up even if they implode beyond all recognition and thats unlikely.

          Joke shadow cabinet run by an unamusing jerk amateur.

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      • 46
        Infanta of Castile says:

        What needs to be understood is that it is more or less meaningless to talk about ‘cancer patients’ as if they were a homogeneous group with identical needs. Ed M is merely carrying on with this where his predecessor left off – taking it for granted that having cancer automatically equals very sick and more deserving of supprt than anyone else wth serious illness such as severe rheumatoid arthritis. Of course, many people with cancer are very sick and need benefits but the benefit system is meant to look at how the condition affects a person rather than what their diagnosis is. Whether it does so effectively is another matter but, on principle, there should be no presumption that cancer= benefit entitlement regardless of whether you are riddled with it or whether you have just had a complete removal of a small tumour that hasn’t spread.

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        • 56
          MrAngry61 says:

          +1

          Also, RedEd appeared to complain that benefits were being cut for cancer patients – ‘after their treatment’. If they’ve been cured, why not expect them to return to work in some capacity?

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          • misterned says:

            Spot on! Being a healthy, cured and former cancer patient should not entitle anyone to benefits.

            Ed was just exploiting a vulnerable group (cancer patients) to cynically and emotively score political points about another, no longer vulnerable, group of people.

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          • Anonymous says:

            Mike Hobday was also Cheif Executive of the League Against Cruel Sports which donated £1million to Labour (from RSPCA, IFAW & LACS) in return for Tong Banks Hunting with Dogs Act. Corrupt as………..

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          • Anonymous says:

            From my experience, they would welcome the chance.

            JM

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      • 55
        Smig says:

        Red Ed couldn’t shine while simultaneously illuminated by the Wembley floodlights and being buffed by ten thousand MrSheen wielding Guardianistas.

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      • 75
        Anonymous says:

        Yes 7000, but do you know who’s next; you, a family member, a friend perhaps?
        You, like the majority of the Guido Glee Club, obviously suffer from sociopathic -myopia. Keep ‘em crossed Mr Angry.

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          Sir Everard Digby says:

          and of course no link with the fact that Macmillan are door knocking at the moment asking for contributions? Charities should not politicise themselves,which is the issue here – not whether a charity’s reason for being is worthy.

          Do keep up.

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        • 90
          Mr Nice says:

          Hopefully it will be you.

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        • 98
          crash says:

          I think the argument basically boils down to when someone can reasonably be expected to return to work. McMillan seem to think it’s longer than 1 year, coinciding with them needing more money to do their job for longer. The condems seem to think you can assess them individually.

          I expect like Oxfam and the other charities and NGOs, McMillan have many people on 40-50 k organizing fun events to raise this money, let them pay the dole of anybody whom the government say can work but thy disagree.

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        • 287
          DWWolds says:

          But if the patient is on the way to recovery the best therapy is to help him/her into meaningful activity, preferably paid employment, as soon as possible.

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          • Noise says:

            I have several colleagues at work who had minor cancers and returned within 3-6 months on reduced working days. They said they were bored shitless

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      • 81
        The voice of unreason says:

        I thought Ed was going to break down and cry!

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      • 99
        Those demon-eyes posters were right says:

        Anything – *anything* – that helps Red Ed hang on till the next election is to be welcomed. If hiding behind a special interest group gets the Blairites off his case for a couple of weeks, that’s not the worst thing that could happen at PMQs.

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        • 280
          Aunt Hilda says:

          quite agree…hope he stays.. the more labour can be shown up for what they are the better…unions next..

          strikes coming but they should realise the public’s got their eyes on the gilt edged niche they enjoy at our expense and if they hope to keep the highly advantageous pension edge think again…time will come when confrontation will show where their loyalties lie and it’s not to their members when under 40% can induce a strike vote success.

          Self serving manipulating short memoried leeches.

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    • 26
      Labour uses Cancer Sufferers says:

      Are there no levels that Red Ed will not sink to?

      I think he should at the very least apologise to the house.

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    • 34
      Billy Bowden, blogging tit of the year says:

      Sneaky bastards

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    • 116
      Crikey says:

      Trust a Labour shill to bring a respected charity into disrepute. Well done Hobday, such integrity.

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      • 277
        Never had it so good says:

        Cancelled my monthly donation. Was asked why, mentioned Millipede …ohhhh.

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    • 131
      Arthur Bent says:

      Last time I ever give any money to Macmillan. They are slime to allow themselves to be used like this!

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    • 134
      AC1 says:

      BBC = Labour = UK Enemy.

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    • 138
      Jethro Q. Walrus-Titty says:

      I have already complained to MacMillan.I hope others will too.This sort of abuse is not on.

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      Bernardette Treanor says:

      The pilgrims got pilgrimmier?

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    • 340
      Labour is a cancer says:

      Agreed. Ever called Macmillan for advice when you or a family member has just been diagnosed with cancer? They seem more interested in signing you up to a direct debit to donate than assisting you with your rather pressing query.

      Fire that shit head and reallocate the money saved to the decent Macmillan Nurses.

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  2. 2
    Fuck Labour says:

    Cancer survival rates under Labour were among the worst in the world and there are cancer drugs which have only been made available by this govt. It turned my stomach to see millionaire Ed Miliband feign indignation over cancer patients. Stupid Hunt.

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    • 63
      Smig says:

      The only time the wankers in Westminster give a stuff about cancer survival is when they find that taxpaying members of society are about to die and thereby reduce government revenue.

      Its an economic numbers game for these tossers, just so that they can hand over a load more wedge to the EUSSR and be rewarded for their despotic taxation with a gravy train and exemplary medical care in their old age.

      To hell with them all.

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    • 77
      sockpuppet #4 says:

      its early diagnosis that saves lives.

      Not really the famous new drugs, that would get used if they actually did save lives at a cost of £20k/year.

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  3. 3
    Bled White Taxpayer says:

    That politicised nonsense takes MacMillan Cancer Support off my charity list. It may only be £50 a year at Christmastime, but I will double the £50 that goes to Help for Heroes or find another cancer charity that doesn’t play politics.

    Whoever sanctioned that in MacMillan is an idiot.

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    • 21
      They've just me too says:

      Agree. Sorry Macmillan – get rid of that planted Labour idiot.

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    • 22
      South of the M4 says:

      Big charity became politicised theft years ago – whilst paying their executive handsomely. None of them are worth supporting. Give your money to local or smaller charities.

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      Anonymous says:

      Nowt wrong with Charities, Bled White Taxpayer!
      Charity begins at ‘ome, I’m sure Prezza would agree.

      The Royal Town Planning Institute is a registered charity, bound under a code of professional conduct.
      Now the Labour party wouldn’t be in a position to influence their conduct and discipline panel, would they?

      Conflicts of interest are just a bit common, that’s all.

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      • 60
        Bled White Taxpayer says:

        The Government don’t leave me much money, but I do see it as a personal “thank you” to who/whatever I owe my situation to give some money to deserving causes at Christmas. Help for Heroes do some wonderful things, and I spent 22 years in the Army so that’s an easy choice. MacMillan made the list because of the support they gave my mother, who thankfully made a total recovery. I’ll look for another cancer charity now though.

        nb Help for Heroes are doing a national campaign on 1st/2nd July at branches of Tesco.

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        • 66
          Anonymous says:

          Tesco has a wonderful charity scheme in place.

          It involves getting suckers to queue up and buy lots of overpriced rubbish while handing out millions in bonus payments to the CEO.

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        • 105
          Crazey Davey, fruitbat and Prime Minister, says:

          You don’t need to give to charity! I take a fat chunk of your wages away to reduce the nation’s debt and instead hand it out to good causes on your behalf! This saves you time, and money. Well, not money, obviously.

          And it doesn’t go to good causes. It goes to bad ones. But it does save you time! Time you can spend working harder and giving me more money.

          Toodle pip.

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        • 122
          Anonymous says:

          Looks like my first post didn’t make it:

          Tesco has a wonderful charity scheme.

          They get suckers to queue up and buy stuff so that they can reduistribute millions to their CEO.

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    • 97
      geoff says:

      Anybody have a list of alternative cancer charities that are not in league with the Labour party?

      I suggest http://www.cancerresearchuk.org for my next donation

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    • 114
      misterned says:

      I redirected all my charitable giving to small local charities after seeing how much money ‘the homeless charity, SHELTER’ had in the bank in the 1990s.

      They had enough money to buy every homeless person a place to live.

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      • 343
        Giggs Tissue says:

        Big Issue? Money goes to Roumania.

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      • 350
        Life is like a pubic hair on a toilet seat....you get pissed off sometimes says:

        I did the same when I saw that Shelter spent £250,000 on legal fees to keep an illegal immigrant fmily here living in a house worth millions 42 inch telly and all the benefits you could wish for all paid by us

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    • 358
      Pilgrims Progress says:

      Have to question where the donations are going as from MacMillan’s own forum’s some MacMillan Nurses have been letting people down, have the Pilgrims been infiltrating there as well?

      http://community.macmillan.org.uk/forums/t/38404.aspx

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  4. 4
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    This has all the marks of a damian mcbride idea.

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  5. 5
    Peter Grimes says:

    Backed up by their mates at Al JaBeeBa again!

    Cnuts, all of them!

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  6. 6
    Mike Litorus says:

    Fucking disgrace, will Miliband be shouting this as much as his faux outrage at PMQ’s? Elvis is more likely to climb out my arse!

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  7. 7
    Fuck Labour says:

    Hobday is on sky right now. The presenter is giving him a much tougher time than the bbc.

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  8. 8
    Pip says:

    Did Andrew Neil point out Hobday’s political allegiance for the viewers ?

    Macmillan Cancer Care will do themselves no favours allowing yet more labour gerrymandering of their cause.

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    • 29
      Southern Softy says:

      No, but Anteater did as a rider at the end of the programme.

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    • 167
      League Against Cool Sports says:

      Before working for Labour MP Bill Rammell, Hobday worked for the Labour MEP Hugh Kerr.

      Hugh was known to most of his constituents simply as “Wan”.

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  9. 9
    Infuriated of West Mids says:

    Disgusting opportunistic behaviour by Ed M, his dark forces, and sadly Macmillan. I’ve seen too many people die of cancer, but will be thinking twice before I donate anything more.

    Disgraceful. Utterly disgraceful.

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      Infuriated of West Mids says:

      Oh, and shameful behaviour by the BBC, and the normally vaguely non-partisan Andrew Neil. But that’s to be expected…

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      • 15
        Fuck Labour says:

        In fairness, they said a few mins after the interview that Hobday was a Labour candidate.

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          South of the M4 says:

          Yep, AFTER the impact of the interview when many would have not been looking. An orchestrated event to show that Tories not only eat babies, they kill cancer patients too. Shameful from Labour, equally shameful that Cameron continues to allow Labour and the BBC to collude, time after time.
          A drip-drip narrative that may win the day come 2015.

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          • Mike Litorus says:

            Exactly – I was watching DP, but I missed that bit being pointed out. I only donate to local charities now, big charity is a joke.

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          • Infuriated of West Mids says:

            Yep. And, of course, the Tories can’t come out and say that someone from Macmillan is a biased piece of shit c*nt – you can just imagine the headlines.

            So it will just get reported as Macmillan agreeing with Red Ed in his hour of pathetic desparation.

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        • 139
          crash says:

          I suspect it’s more likely they got the interview in a hurry and didn’t have time to check, the Labour man not volunteering his political past.

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          • Sungei Patani says:

            The speed with whichthe BBC found a spokesman for Macmillan suggests he was lined up beforehand and surprise surprise he was a Labour Party candidate which was not revealed at the time.

            Fits in well with the usual BBC bias against the Conservatives.

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    • 160
      Joe Doe says:

      Have you ever seen anyone die of cancer? I doubt it. If you did you would donate to Macmillan as anything that can be done to alleviate the suffering from cancer is a good thing. Macmillan nurses are brilliant.

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      • 214
        misterned says:

        I have watched several members of my own family die of cancer and heart disease. I will not fund this charity until they issue an apology.

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      • 219
        matronly advice says:

        Well, if all these subs dry up the nurses will have to move over to a more thoughtful and less politicised cancer hospital, won’t they.

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      • 272
        misterned says:

        The Nurses are brilliant, but that does not excuse the charity from committing a blatantly political stunt in a cruel, partisan and cynical way.

        The charity should issue an apology.

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      • 281
        Infuriated of West Mids says:

        Mr/Ms Doe – if you’d bothered to read the whole thread before commenting, you’d see that I have seen “too many” people die from cancer. It’s utterly awful. But *using* cancer as a political tool as Ed Milliband that that twat from Macmillan did today is JUST UNACCEPTABLE.

        Don’t presume to know what other people have or haven’t been through.

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      • 366
        NotaSheep says:

        I have, several friends in fact, so don’t come that with me. I will move my support to Marie Curie Cancer Care and Breakthrough

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  10. 10
    Fuck Labour says:

    Hobday just admitted on sky that Miliband’s office had contacted his office and they gave him information!

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    • 103
      geoff says:

      sad for a charity to behave in such a partisan way

      but this one is a fake charity

      http://fakecharities.org/2011/02/charity-261017/

      government supporting a charity 100%, it’s not a charity, it’s a quango

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      • 140
        sockpuppet #4 says:

        I was surprised, and looked. its not a fake charity.
        They define a fake charity as one that has 10% of its money or more from the state. it gets less than 2%.

        Therefore its not a quango.

        The website decides that a charity is fake if it gets more than 1 million quid. So its fake because its bloody huge.

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    • 106
      Nursie says:

      Breach of charity commission rules then. BTW, Sky have definitely been briefed and are playing the hanky script for all they’re worth.

      Abominable.

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  11. 13
    Nursie says:

    Within 10 minutes, Hobnails was also on Sky at their offices being interviewed on tele, so put up job, Nooooo, of course not…. methinks this one stinks, well spotted Gweed!

    Not so much of a smokescreen, more of a carefully coordinated political gambit. If anyone should feel disgraced about how they are treating cancer sufferers, it is Millitwat and Hobnail who clearly set out to do political point scoring of the back of people’s anguish and pain. That is the real disgrace!

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  12. 14
    les says:

    Macmillan also want the government to amend their Bill so that everyone eligible for ESA receive it regardless of their financial circumstances – a bit like the students and EMA!!!!!!!!!!

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    • 32
      Mike Litorus says:

      Whenever this line is toadied, you just have to ask them if that includes multimillionaire bankers – watch the confusion as they can’t get their heads round the contradiction.

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    • 132
      misterned says:

      Students do not qualify for EMA if their parents earn above a meagre threshold.

      My daughter could not get EMA because her mother and I were in work. Lots of chavs did go to college (easier than having to work for a living) and received EMA which was spent behind a bar or went to local drug dealers. They got no more education as they only showed up the bare minimum required to qualify and did almost no work at all when they did bother attending college.

      Scrapping EMA is one of this Government’s best policies and I support scrapping that waste 100%.

      My daughter who received NO EMA whatsoever is now at University studying for a science degree. Her state funded chav colleagues, are not.

      Scrapping EMA will not hurt education at all.

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      • 153
        crash says:

        Yes but watch as she goes through it all again when she cannot find a job and the job centre treat her like a fraudster while her chav contemporaries have 7 kids and 2 council houses each.

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        • 212
          misterned says:

          My daughter worked non-stop since about two weeks after 16th Birthday. She funded her own way through college and works as a supervisor part time in a bookshop and works part-time in the labs to supplement her university studies.

          She is a very powerfully motivated young woman and I cannot ever imagine her being out of work for long. Even if she had to move to the other side of the world to take up a menial cleaning job, she would rather do that, than sit on the dole.

          She will, in all probability create her own job and go self employed providing some service or product based on her scientific studies.

          She believes that there is no excuse for people to be out of work for a long time. They make too many bullshit excuses.

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          • crash says:

            Well I stand corrected! As someone who is doing just that (well not for a cleaning job) and has never taken any dole I am glad we still have people like her somehow making it through the education system.

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      • 215
        Mark Austin says:

        I will agree with misterned on his first point: EMA was only paid below a very low threshold, but disagree on the second. As a former FE lecturer, I know that recepients had to meet very stringent attendance criteria (we would be regularly contact to confirm if someone had missed just one session in a day without good cause, which could cause a loss of a week’s payment), and performance was monitored, and non-achievement could again lead to a loss of the payment (remeber that most courses have regular assessments, not just an end-of-year exam, so this couyld be done very quickly). As a scheme, it was a gret success, and it loss is a lementable piece of p[etty cash-saving.

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        • 220
          Handycock (Teen Fondler) says:

          Are you the Mark Austin who has been making my life hell and sending false emails to all Portsmouth City Councillors?

          http://www.po12bg.com/id64.html

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        • 225
          matronly advice says:

          For an educationist, your spelling is bloody awful. you must be a Nulab grajjewate.

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        • 232
          matronly advice says:

          Your spelling leaves much to be desired Mr Educationist.

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        • 265
          misterned says:

          In my daughter’s experience they never bothered following up on lack of attendance and helped students to gain higher levels of results than they could achieve on their own, so as to screw the system.

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          • Anonymous says:

            If a raging leftie is going to prime Ed, it will stop people giving money to MacMilliams – keep out of politics when it comes to something so important

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  13. 16
    Cat says:

    But I thought ED team was useless, right?

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  14. 17
    Teacher says:

    Going to make the 5pm Tweet the Twit Miliband more fun

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  15. 18
    Nursie says:

    Hobday = stooge.
    Milliband = cheap politician
    MacMillan – should review their position.
    Utterly disgraceful all round.

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    The charity has now shot itself in the foot, Many rich people give charites money compared to the working class, If they see one as polititcal those donations will dry up.

    Ed Miliband really is the son of Brown and has been passed the jonah curse.

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  17. 20
    Gordon Brown says:

    Did you see me in the chamber? No? That’s cos I wasn’t there. I’ve got a map, sword and body bag in my car and I’m parked outside Joss Stone’s house.

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    • 96
      Smig says:

      “My first homicidal maniac kit” from ToysRus doesn’t count you blithering, slackjawed, nappyfilling jockomong.

      By the way… You are not “parked”. You have been abandoned upon a rocking horse with a satchel full of fizzy pop.

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    Mike Hobday says:

    So Red Ed is playing politics with the terminally ill.

    DISGUSTING.

    HE SHOULD RESIGN BEFORE THE SUN SETS ON THIS DAY

    And so should Mike Hobday

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    • 44
      Moussa Koussa says:

      Clearly worried.

      PM’s know the questions before they are asked…The cancer one was very specfiic in terms of figures…and Cock Boy mumbled something in response.

      Like your “”Feigned Incredulity “” Mike “The Apolgist””

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      • 159
        crash says:

        Dave didn’t dispatch Ed as clearly as he should, he was just surprised that with all the f*ck ups lately Ed went for a completely obscure topic affecting minimal numbers of people.

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    Bird with small brain says:

    Does anyone outside the Westminster village care one jot about PMQs? It’s pantomime, pure and simple. And the cancer card is childish ya boo emotional politics. Pathetic.

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    They're all smug, sneering Celt cunts at the BBC, 'cept Kuenssbergs whom I wish to bum intensely says:

    Ive emailed the bullock Shelagh celt Fogerty to ask if she’s going to mention this fact with her MPs slot today.

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    • 40
      Im such a cunt even me parents abandoned me, Nicky Campbells says:

      Nah feckun chance yah english batard

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  21. 28
    For MILF fans says:

    Carol Vorderman showing much cleavage on ITV1. :-D

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  22. 30
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    7 minutes ago: “Mike Hobday worked for Labour Party for 6 years and was Bill Rammell MP’s chief of staff for 4 years. Nice stitch-up.”

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  23. 35
    Ear Trumpet says:

    Gobday now on Radio 4. BBC blatantly anti-government and propping up the failed Labour rabble.

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  24. 36
    Moussa Koussa says:

    Interesting Guido…..So I take you and your neo con scum will be rooting around trying to dig some dirt on an unsuspecting Macmillan nurse

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    • 39
      Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

      only if it involves taxpayers money.

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    • 53
      Anonymous says:

      No, only if her name’s nurse Pilgrim!

      Har har

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    • 58
      Infuriated of West Mids says:

      Yep because all nurses are untouchable angels who can do no wrong in the eyes of the left, aren’t they? That’s what you rely on. Things you can’t say a bad word about:

      1. The NHS
      2. The armed forces
      3. Doctors
      4. Nurses
      5. Teachers
      6. Paramedics
      7. Anyone with a self-claimed disability
      etc. etc. etc.

      So you frame your pathetic arguments through one of these windows to avoid any chance of a vigorous counter-attack. There are many good and deserving people in the above list, but there are also many absolute shits. It’s just that we can’t mention them – if we do, then the leftist BBC, Labour Party, and charities will be all over the news with their hypocritical faux outrage.

      Plus. As terrible as cancer is, SIX questions at PMQs that affect 7,000 people out of a population of 62 million people?? But, of course, you can’t say that.

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    • 79
      Balflower beater! says:

      Yes and he should if there is any using any charity to further their own and their masters political aims they should be pushed into the light and explain themselves to those who fund them ! so shut up leftard as if it was a Tory you would squeal like a piggy about it !! hypocrite !

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  25. 37
    Backwoodsman says:

    Big charity, labour , bbc , joint stitch up attempt ? Quel fuckin’ surprise !!

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    Disgusted of Sink Estate says:

    No more cancer donations from me. I’m sick and tired of all this. I’m giving to dog’s and cat’s homes only. Sorry cancer sufferers, it’s only because have a complete cnut representing you, nothing personal you understand.

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    Andrew Efiong says:

    Gotcha.

    Macmillan need to watch their back. People don’t donate money so that they can spend it cooking up media stunts with Ed Moribund.

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    That's much much worse than playing politics with cancer patients, isn't it, Penis? says:

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    Blinding Obvious says:

    Anyway why should the well off recovering from cancer be given state handouts after 12 months? The State has saved their lives FFS.

    Red Ed is playing the politics of emotions

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      sockpuppet #4 says:

      You’re going to tell me next that theres such a thing as “politics based on facts”

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    Duncan says:

    So what?

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    Moley. says:

    Is Miliband going to re-play “The war of Jennifer’s ear”?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_Jennifer's_Ear

    No one likes pain and illness used as a political football; Miliband should remember that, and he should remember too that the NHS has major failings, (Staffordshire) and is a major cost which has to be effectively controlled and managed.

    One is left with the feeling that a Miliband Government would do absolutely nothing in office, on the basis that everything is perfect as it is and there is no room for improvement.

    The people of Staffordshire would beg to differ.

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      Anonymous says:

      Astonished that there is not more coverage of the Stafford Enquiry. Every day more outrages emerge. Ministers instrumental in witholding figures at Stafford. It emerged yesterday that other hospitals (Walsall) might have been massaging figures to hide / mislead on death rates.

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Wipe them out! All of them…….

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    Fuck Labour says:

    Ed’s tantrum at PMQs was hilarious. He must have thought shrieking indignantly would make him look prime ministerial. But he just looked like a schoolboy having a hissy fit.

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      Smig says:

      He’s obviously been taking lessons from that greatest of socialist orators – Harridan Harman.

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    the last quango in paris says:

    I was momentarily disgusted until I remember the mettle of Miliband – trying to oust Blair and all the spin and nastiness that entailed, siding with Balls against Blairs loyalists, trying to form a coalition with the lib dems when labour had been defeated and keeping the country in limbo and shafting his brother and runining the family for his own gain – therefore i’m not surprised at all that he feels the need to politicise cancer. Could Labour not have written a note when they noticed something they thought was wrong? Scoring political points over cancer care is a disgrace and if I was sitting through chemo, feeling terrified and ill with my hair falling out I would be very very angry indeed.

    Point scoring off the vulnerable is distasteful at best utterly abhorent at worst.

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      Rat's arse says:

      Couldn’t agree more ‘quango’. ANYONE who can ‘cash in’ [for want of a better phrase] on cancer, a word that sparks dread in most folks’ minds, is a pathetic, opportunistic wanker.

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    simon says:

    Did Labour Party stooge Hobday’s employers know what was going on between him and the Labour Party? There are no depths to which Labour will plummet.

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    Bird with small brain says:

    I’ve just told told MacMillan what I think of their connivance in puerile emotional politicking at and following PMQs.

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    Anonymous says:

    email just sent to Macmillan (All true, sadly)

    “I lost my mother to cancer in 2007, it was a difficult time for us all and I know that the Macmillan support towards the end gave her, and us, great comfort. So I was very surprised and disappointed to hear Macmillan and cancer victims being used as a political football today during PMQ’s. Quite what Mike Hobday is up to , I don’t know, however it’s in very poor taste and very upsetting for those of us with experience.

    Mike Hobday is an ex-Labour candidate, and the shameless use of cancer victims in this way is deporable. It’ reminds me of Gordon Brown pleading that only a Labour government can save cancer victims, which still to this day angers me.

    You can’t group cancer patients together under one generic banner, each case is unique and it’s simply incorrect to use these details to score very, very low blows for political means.

    I for one will no longer donate to Macmillan. Now you have played politics, you have forced me to take sides. I don’t agree with you and won’t support you any longer.

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      Infuriated of West Mids says:

      A superbly written email, Anonymous. I will be sending a similar one this afternoon. It’s a truly sad day when a charity which can do so much good descends to this level. Let us not forget just how low EM stooped today, despite how it is being reported.

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      Fuck Labour says:

      Bravo.

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      Balflower beater! says:

      Well said !

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      misterned says:

      I shall also send off a similar email and a hand-written letter. That will have more impact!

      I mean, who gets angry enough to send letters these days?

      I am right now!

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        misterned says:

        My letter:

        I have lost several members of my family to Cancer. I am indeed indebted to your nurses for the excellent care my relatives received during these painful and traumatic times.

        It is with utter dismay and a sickening degree of disappointment therefore, that I learned that money donated in good faith has been used by your staff to cook-up party political stunts.

        Today’s misleading attack at Prime Minister’s Questions was a stunt arranged between Mike Hobday, (a labour party candidate) and the labour party to use cancer as a political football, to cynically exploit fear within vulnerable groups and score cheap and distasteful points in the house of commons.

        I shall be refusing to give anymore to your charity as I am left feeling sick and disgusted by what I witnessed today.

        That Ed Miliband would cynically use Cancer as a football is expected, He stabbed his party’s leader in the back and his own brother in the back. He is the lowest of a very low bunch of people.

        The fact that a respectable cancer charity such as yourselves would stoop to such a low level to ‘prop up’ a failed politician trying to hold together a failed and discredited and loathed political party is revolting.

        If you wish to get into the politics of Cancer Care, then the fact that the current coalition government has increased funding for anti-cancer drugs has escaped your attention then? Or that giving tax-payers hard earned money to people who have been cured of cancer, are well and no longer need it is irrelevant to you? Or that you wanting to give the same amount of tax-payer’s hard earned money to millionaire bankers as the poor has escaped your sense of Justice?

        I hope that your charity will see fit to apologise publicly for this outrageous stunt.

        Yours Sincerely

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      Angry says:

      Mine is done and let’s hope they make a statement because if they just ignore the complaints, then they are just ignorant common crooks.

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      Mornington Crescent says:

      Agreed except with one point: Hobday was spouting with his Macmillan hat on. Ergo, far from Macmillan “being used”, they’re up to their fucking necks in it by their own volition.

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      Joe Doe says:

      Why are you penalising cancer victims? Scum.

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      Afghanistan Banana Stand says:

      Kudos.

      It will be interesting to see what sort of a reply you get (if any).

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      SonofBoudicca says:

      May I suggest that you also lodge a complaint with the Charity Commission which can be done online. Charities are forbidden by Charity Law from getting engaged in political activity and Macmillan have clearly crossed the line. The more people who lodge a complaint the more chance there is of the Charity Commission having to investigate (even though it is led by Dame Suzy Leather, a Labour stalwart). Otherwise there is a danger that Macmillan will just brush it under the carpet

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        Pip says:

        Have sent email to Charity Commission too. I will not be holding my breath though . . .. . .

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      Pip says:

      I too have sent off an email – not as eloquent as some on this board but making the point that, once politicized, you cannot believe anything they say.

      Most people have known someone who has died from cancer and I think most people have had the utmost respect for the MacMillan charity – how utterly stupid and irresponsible of them to demean their cause in this way.

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    Desperate Dan says:

    Ed thinks we’re all fascinated by where he gets his questions from. Last week it was newspapers. This week its press releases. Now that he’s mastered reading perhaps he could go on to composition and start thinking up his own questions.

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  39. 68
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Bollocks, Hang him! He looks a wrong un anyway.

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    Anonymous says:

    I’ve been onto the cancer care in question and apparnetly the lines are becoming hot due to Hobday and his pal Ed Millinand using them as a political football. I would urge people to contact the cancer care charity and let them know how bad this was.
    As a cancer sufferer who has used them for help in the past I find the use of a Labour stooge, any political stooge of whatever colour for that fact, to hammer another party truly awful.

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      Nursie says:

      Agreed, Macmillan should distance themselves from this and Hobday.. a public statement is the only way to avoid their phonelines being clogges up and their donations drying up.

      Cynical stuff by Milliband. Very cynical.

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    • 87
      Marcus Edwardius says:

      I have just sent an email complaint to Macmillan.

      They are a popular charity, often being the main beneficiaries of sponsorships on JustGiving. Where possible I will make sure that my future donations go to other charities.

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        SonofBoudicca says:

        Also I suggest you lodge a formal complaint with the Charity Commission. Political activity by Charities is illegal.

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    Fuck Labour says:

    The usually reliable Joey Jones failed to question Hobday about his Labour links.

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      Nursie says:

      He’s just caught up but is dismissing Labour allegiance as irrelevant – also no mention still of hobnob’s other role assisting mp which is far more significant.

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        sockpuppet #4 says:

        Someone’s OPINION can be doubted on political allegiance.

        the FACTUAL ACCURACY of someone’s claims can only be sorted out by checking the facts. is it true?

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          sockpuppet #4 says:

          I like that. a thumbs down. Sort of suggests that in their world facts change with political expediency.

          Has MacBride come out to plauy with us?

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    Jess The Dog says:

    Here’s a link to the MacMillan Cancer Board of Trustees. I question whether acting as an opposition party political prop is the best way to influence healthcare policymaking. I also wonder if Mr Hobday is an appropriate advocate for this charity.

    http://www.macmillan.org.uk/Aboutus/WhoWeAre/OurTrustees.aspx#DynamicJumpMenuManager_2_Anchor_7

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      nell says:

      So how much of the donations they receive do they spend on patients and how much do they spend on fancy offices and highly paid staff?

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        Smig says:

        Here you go Nell.
        Your starter for ten…
        http://jobs.macmillan.org.uk/jobs_vacancies.aspx

        Programme Lead, Systems Redesign (Manchester): Fixed-Term to September 2013
        Closing date: 17/06/2011
        Location: Manchester
        Salary: £49,500-£55,000 pa (depending on experience) + Benefits
        Reference: MAC-P-00810
        Posted date: 02/06/2011

        Corporate Service Development Lead
        Closing date: 19/06/2011
        Location: Vauxhall, London
        Salary: £45,000-£50,000 pa (depending on experience) inc London Allowance + Benefits
        Reference: MAC-P-00784
        Posted date: 08/06/2011

        Partnerships Manager: Fixed-Term for 6 months
        Closing date: 19/06/2011
        Location: Vauxhall, London
        Salary: £30,600-£34,000 pa (depending on experience) inc London Allowance + Benefits
        Reference: MAC-P-00785
        Posted date: 10/06/2011

        Partnerships Development Officer: Fixed-Term to June 2013
        Closing date: 19/06/2011
        Location: Vauxhall, London
        Salary: £21,600-£24,000 pa (depending on experience) inc London Allowance + Benefits
        Reference: MAC-P-00786
        Posted date: 08/06/2011

        Fundraising Manager, South and East Kent: Fixed-Term (Maternity Cover) to Jul 2012
        Closing date: 19/06/2011
        Location: Home-Based (with extensive travel within patch)
        Salary: £23,000 pa (depending on experience) + Benefits + Car
        Reference: MAC-P-00818
        Posted date: 10/06/2011

        Macmillan Development Manager: Warwickshire, Worcestershire and Coventry
        Closing date: 20/06/2011
        Location: Home-based (with extensive travel within patch)
        Salary: £36,000-£40,000 pa (depending on experience) + Benefits + Car
        Reference: MAC-P-00811
        Posted date: 07/06/2011

        Macmillan Development Manager: Essex
        Closing date: 20/06/2011
        Location: Home-Based (with extensive travel within Essex)
        Salary: £36,000-£40,000 pa (depending on experience) + Benefits + Car
        Reference: MAC-P-00812
        Posted date: 07/06/2011

        Finance Adviser (Community Fundraising)
        Closing date: 22/06/2011
        Location: Vauxhall, London
        Salary: £30,000-£32,000 pa (depending on experience) inc London Allowance + Benefits
        Reference: MAC-P-00822
        Posted date: 14/06/2011
        Cancer Information Strategy Lead (Wales): 3 Year Fixed-Term Contract
        Closing date: 30/06/2011
        Location: Nantgarw or Swansea
        Salary: £40,500 to 45,000 pa (depending on experience) + Benefits
        Reference: MAC-P-00809
        Posted date: 15/06/2011

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          Mornington Crescent says:

          After that lot, it’s a fucking miracle there’s anything left for cancer sufferers.

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        Smig says:

        For 2009:
        Total Income: £123 Million.
        Total Expenditure: £116 Million.

        Total expendiure for charitable causes: £81 Million.
        Total expenditure for fundraising (money spent in order to get donations): £34Million

        http://www.macmillan.org.uk/Documents/AboutUs/RaiseAndSpend/AnnualReviews/AnnualReportSummary2009.pdf

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      SonofBoudicca says:

      It is a breach of charities law to get involved directly in political activity like Mr Hobday appears to have done.

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    To be honest i thought Ed Milibands first question was quite reasonable and his second was, If that had been that (2nd time DC answered his question) in isolation then i can see it as a legitimate question. However this was not the case after we find out that a former labour worker (Oxymoron in thier somewhere) is spinning a feeding lines from a “Independent ” Charity then this shows politics at its worst.

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    Fucking liar says:

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      the last quango in paris says:

      righto which is why you are a failed labour person who then went into charity afterwards – you really cared about the cancer patients then when you wanted another job didn’t you?

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      Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

      Then why did you stand for the Labour party?

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        Cynical-old-bag says:

        He stood for the Labour Party because it was a lot more lucrative. Cancer patients came way down the list back then.

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      Balflower beater! says:

      Well Mr knobday all very nice so can you post up the time you have spoken out about Labour policy ? you know just for ‘historical’ purposes !

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        Stop supporting MacMillan says:

        I’d like to know exactly how much you earn from the money donated to your charity?

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    • 192
      misterned says:

      What about pissing away money on healthy former patients who no linger NEED the money? That money could be better spent elsewhere according to need.

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    • 198
      misterned says:

      As an attempt at blatantly covering your arse from the ramifications of turning your employer’s charity into a political football, this tweet is a bag of shite!

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      Anonymous says:

      Since you always put cancer patients first, Mr Hobday, can you provide us with a history of your utterances after Labour created NICE back in 1999? You know, NICE – the organisation which denies drugs to cancer patients?

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        misterned says:

        +1

        Has he ever congratulated the coalition on increasing the availability of Cancer prevention drugs or late care cancer drugs? The one’s that labour refused to fund.

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    Ex-Macmillan donor says:

    From the charity Commissions website:

    ‘In the political arena, a charity must stress its independence and ensure that any involvement it has with political parties is balanced. A charity must not give support or funding to a political party, nor to a candidate or politician.’

    I think Mr Hobday has breached this. Complaint about to be lodged here:

    http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/Forms/Complaints.aspx

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    Bird with small brain says:

    Just trying to work out reason for (presumably auto) modding. Was it the word puerile? Perhaps the auto mod thinks it’s an anatomical expression…

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Murdoch will have his revenge.

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    The envy of the world says:

    NHS 5 year cancer survival rate: 8%
    USA 5 year cancer survival rate: 66%

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  50. 102
    Jackson says:

    BOB CROW DRINK EXPENSIVE BEVERAGES

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    nell says:

    Interesting subject Macmillan Cancer Care. I, like lots of others, have helped raise money for them. So, I wonder, what is this mikehobday, who purportedly is a Head of Policy, doing dabbling in politics?

    Out of interest I had a little look at their website, never done it before.

    They’re in a very prestigious office building, prime location, clearly pricey. They employ CEO, Chief Medical Officer, Chief Clinician, Directors for England, Wales, Scotland, N Ire, all the Regions and on and on, Policy Managers , and Heads of this and that like hobday. The list is fairly endless.

    Now I’m alarmed. What have we been raising money for? An expensive office block and highly paid paper pushers? I hope that’s not the case but i suspect it might be.

    Big question is, what percentage of the money that is raised from charitable donation for Macmillan Cancer Care goes to help cancer patients and what percentage goes on high salaries, expenses, pricey office overheads and for paying people like hobday to dabble in labour politics?

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      nell says:

      Sigh! modded.

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      Where's theres a will! says:

      Eyes wide opened by above posts.
      Single,over 70, estate worth £5m plus, current will apart from a few personal legacies, half to Cof E clergy pension fund and half to Macmillan Cancer. After A of C last week and today, Macmillan undermining government, off to see solicitors tomorrow to change to Help the Heroes and Cancer Research
      MP friend(labour at that) tells me just now that he suspects Macmillan man knew that McBride man from charity meeting and Balls arranged the questionst, and that when all the facts come out, Milliband will be made to look even more foolish.
      All this scoring points on cancer….truly disgusted.

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    Cynic says:

    That’s the last time I donate to MacMillan

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      nell says:

      Just tried to post but it keeps modding me.

      This charity are occupying an expensive building in a prime location in London and paying lots of people high salaries.

      The question needs asking what percentage of the donations people like us give to them is going to patients and how much is being used to pay people like this?

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      SonofBoudicca says:

      Try lodging a formal complaint with the Charity Commission as well

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    It doesn't add up... says:

    Comment spotted at Political Betting:

    “Red Ed’s gatekeeper, Polly-something, is a former BBC political correspondent and was based out of the BBC Millbank newsroom, which coincidentally is where the Daily Politics is broadcast from”

    Polly Billington

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      misterned says:

      What a corrupt incestuous relationship is being formed between the labour party, the BBC and a “charity”.

      Sickening.

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    Labour Lackie says:

    From his facebook — http://www.facebook.com/mikehobday

    Activities and Interests — “St Albans Labour Party”

    Friends —

    Alastair Campbell, Alex Hilton, Andrew Dismore Labour MP, Andy Love Labour MP, Ben Bradshaw Labour MP, Bill Rammell Labour MP, Chris Bryant Labour MP, Clive Efford Labour MP… and the list goes on and on and on…

    Clearly a Labour Party operative.

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    nell says:

    This charity are in a very prestigious office building, prime location, clearly pricey. They employ CEO, Chief Medical Officer, Chief Clinician, Directors for England, Wales, Scotland, N Ire, all the Regions and on and on, Policy Managers , and Heads of this and that like hobday. The list is fairly endless.

    What are their charitable donations being used for? An expensive office block and highly paid paper pushers? .

    Big question is, what percentage of the money that is raised from charitable donation goes to help patients and what percentage goes on high salaries, expenses, pricey office overheads and for paying people like hobday to dabble in labour politics?

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      Ed But Look Balls says:

      Good old retardED MiliPeedPants has blighted MacMillan Charity…their profile is being closely scrutinised what with employing ex-Liebour failures, prestigious offices, expensive salaries; you couldn’t make it up…pure fuckwittery to rival McDoom at this best, trebles all round at Liebour HQ!

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    Hadenough says:

    Complain in to charities comission:

    “Wednesday, June 15th 2011. The leader of the opposition, Ed Milliband today used Macmillan cancer care to raise questions during PMQ’s. He was briefed by Macmillan spokesman Mike Hobday, an ex-Labour candidate who made subsequent interviews to make cancer care a political issue and attack the government. Having lost people close to me to cancer I do not agree with this issue nor this charity being used for political aims and I believe this is a wholly unacceptable breach of the terms under which the charities must operate. Please register this as a complaint in the strongest possible way.”

    Hope there’s momentum. Sky news is bannered with Milliband branding Dave a “disgrace” over cancer. That’s a fuckung travesty, Milliband is the disgrace.

    I hope Sky pick up on the welling of anger.

    sheesh, old Labour, new Labour, same shit.

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  57. 126
    Bob Crow says:

    mIKe hoBDay iS A gREAt mAN! LEaVe hIM AlonE! uP tHE woRKaz!

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    Thought for the Day says:

    Andrew Dismore is a mong faced Hunt.

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    Anonymous says:

    Distasteful use of cancer as a political football?? What really sickens me is Cameron continually using his dead son as proof (bogus) of his commitment to the NHS. He really should stop it.

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      Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

      Did he? All iwas aware of was that they used a NHS hospital?

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      crash says:

      yes distasteful but politicians will do anything when their backs are against the wall, even greedy gordy did that TV interview about his child.

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        Cynical-old-bag says:

        I don’t believe they will do anything, and I certainly do not believe that DC would use this “when his back was against the wall”.

        The only stories were those pushed by the media and if the BBC is anything to go by…..

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          crash says:

          cameron brings it up all the time when he affirms his love of the NHS he says how hw spent nights in A&E and was totally dependent on the NHS. I don’t think it’s particularly unfair to do it but he has done it and he did it again yesterday.

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      Moley. says:

      I have never heard Cameron mention his son; not once.

      I have never heard Cameron use the death of his son in a political argument either.

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        Cynical-old-bag says:

        I have never heard DC use this either.

        I find it quite sickening that anyone should ever suggest that because he is a politician, the death of his obviously much loved son should be used to gain him political advantage.

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      Gordon's pain says:

      “Boo Hoo..I can’t see..So I send soldiers mums letters expressing my terrible regret there son is dead. Only I get the name wrong..boo hoo..I’m so upset that I didn’t buy any helicopters. If only they made helicopters in Strathclyde I would have bought tons.. “

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      You are ‘littleglimmer’ and I claim my 5 pounds.

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    Jess The Dog says:

    There is no problem at all with Macmillan (and indeed Mike Hobday) advocating the rights of cancer patients, which is one of their expected roles. However, given what would be expected of a lobbying charity, this is similar to one of those Fathers 4 Justice stunts, like throwing a balloon of purple powder during PMQs.

    It would be more appropriate to lobby during the committee stage, as charities have done, including during oral evidence sessions, with the notable exception in the case of Macmillan.

    http://www.parliament.uk/business/news/2011/february/health-and-social-care-bill-committee-announce-programme/ Also, there is an All Party Parliamentary Group on Cancer which is another behind-the-scenes forum.

    In fact, the only benefit from this intervention seems to be the Leader of the Opposition and this is probably going to be outweighed by a ‘Jennifer’s Ear’ backlash. I simply can’t see how Mr Hobday can remain in post as a credible influencer and campaigner, given the requirement for impartiality. Other charities may want to rethink the practice of hiring failed politicians and former spinners.

    I lost a relative to cancer recently… it is possible that earlier diagnosis could have improved the terrible outcome, but it is difficult to second guess and an emotive and complex issue which deserves to be treated better than this.

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    Angry says:

    Just filled my complaint out at Macmillan website – No more money for those political beggars.

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  62. 148
    Bob Crow says:

    Wotz betta – cristal champain or Pol roger champain?

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      EC1 PhD says:

      Chrystal was first ordered from Louis Roederer by Tsar Alexander II in a clear glass bottle with a flat bottom to distinguish it from the champagne drunk by commoners in Paris with their green bottles with a dimple. Given that Bob Crow comes from a distinguished line of trades union communist bastards, I would say Chrystal as Lenin and his lot would have ransacked the palaces in autumn 1917 and drunk the rest of it.

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      Indigestion Tablet says:

      A kick in the teeth you cnut.

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    Engineer says:

    The subject of Ed’s questions seems to be a very narrow technical issue compared to the whole subject of welfare reform. If there is any merit in the point raised (and given Labour’s previous form on selective use of ‘facts’, it’s a big ‘if’) the correct way to address it is to raise it during the Committee stage as the Bill passes through the Commons. Using it in such a grandstanding manner does cancer sufferers no favours, and does the charity no favours either.

    To use all six questions on it just suggests that RedEd is somewhat devoid of ideas, and the policy team surrounding him is either incompetent or is being systematically ignored.

    One wonders if Ed Balls had a hand in this somewhere? It seems his style, somehow.

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      Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

      I did suggest up the thread tha one Damian mc Brides fingerprints were on this.

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    SonofBoudicca says:

    Getting involved in politics is illegal for a Charity. I suggest everyone complains to the Charity Commission, as I have done about the antics of Macmillan.

    There is a ‘contact us’ function on their website (www.charity-commission.gov.uk) to enable you to do this.

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    Allegedly Posh Jock says:

    This is what happens when those who have never had a proper job outside politics are put under pressure to perform in their little bubbles; they treat real life and those who are suffering as ammunition in what, to them, is just another meaningless debate. Cancer sufferers are merely point scoring opportunities in their pathetic effort to climb the greasy pole and as such are expendable and of no interest. This type of thinking is what is also making the managerial structures of public agencies- NHS, Police et al- the cess pits that they have become. CNUTS!

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  66. 176
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    I will not complian to McMillian, After consulting my boss we have removed McMillian from our list of charities (We donate to two each year, one local , one national) , I admit the donation is not big (£700 for national, £1000 for local) so they may not miss it , But in my own way i will make my protest.

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  67. 183
    Moussa Koussa says:

    Seem to be missing the point with your feigned incredulity – 7,000 patients will be losing out on benefits

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      Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

      I thought Labour had cured cancer, Gordon said so himself?

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      • 199
        Smig says:

        They’d didn’t cure it. They removed it from the Zodiac as part of a trick to confuse Mystic Meg.

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    • 191
      Moley. says:

      Instead of referring to people who you disagree with as “scum” , why don’t you explain who is going to lose out on benefits and under what circumstances.?

      We are not “scum” and would appreciate a sensible and considered reply.

      I wonder how long we will have to wait?

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    • 200
      Mr Nice says:

      According to a left-wing mong who works for a fake charity, 7,000 people might miss out on benefits.

      Even if I believed the lie, am I supposed to give a fuck?

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    • 209
      Cynical-old-bag says:

      Ah, yes. The Gospel according to Red Ed.

      I wonder if this is actually true, or whether Labour have whipped this up to enrage the public?

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    • 315
      Desperate Dan says:

      You don’t want to believe anything Ed tells you, especially when he’s got it second hand from his lobbying chums.

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      Cat says:

      Is this twat for real? Can he not read? Perhaps I’m giving him too much credit and he’s just thick.

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  68. 184
    The Village Idiot says:

    In the film ‘The Dead Zone’, Martin Sheen plays a US Senatorial Candidate who instinctively grabs a baby and holds it in front of him, in order to save himself from a snipers bullet.

    This is what happened today at PMQs – the baby was the cancer sufferers, Ed Milliband the candidate.

    In the film, the candidate wasn’t shot, but, of course, his true character was demonstrated to the world and he was finished politically.

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    • 206
      Mr Nice says:

      Without spoiling the ending, can you remember what Sheen’s character did after being exposed?

      Miliband, too? We live in hope.

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  69. 185
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    Red Ed is clearly a brick short of a load. He can’t even smear the opposition properly.

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  70. 194
    Jess The Dog says:

    Most people probably have mixed experiences of the NHS and of cancer care. Another relative of mine was lucky enough to be diagnosed early for bladder cancer. When the NHS does things right, it is world-class…. cancer treatment and stroke treatment, for example. However, in routine matters, the NHS can struggle to attain adequacy. Our experience of maternity care has been mixed and I’m puzzled to see health boards handing out ‘thermal bags’ for hair straighteners rather than making this a safety requirement of the manufacturer.

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      AC1 says:

      Some good staff*, poor organisation (due to lack of customer alignment IMHO) is also my experience.

      *Some very poor staff too.

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  71. 196
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Fellow windowlickers, Please do not forget later this afternoon Ed Miliband will answer your questions on twitter at 5pm :-)

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  72. 197
    Hang The Bastards says:

    SEND COMPLAINTS TO MACMILLAN !!!

    http://www.macmillan.org.uk/Aboutus/ContactUs/MakeAComplaint.aspx

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      Moussa Koussa says:

      So you are going to bog down a charities daily work, by sending feigned incredulity complaints

      Maybe you should complain to your master The Cock, whom HAS taken benefits away from those poor souls suffering this awful disease

      You Neo Cons really are pure scum.

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      • 234
        Cynical-old-bag says:

        Are “feigned” and “incredulity” your two words of the week?

        Three postings with these words in now.

        Can’t you think of anything more original?

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          Moussa Koussa says:

          All true

          I always love Neo Con feigned incredulity…Always taking the family values moral high ground while shagging someone else…..errr Like John Major for instances.

          This is classic neo con behavoiur…caught out, go over the top in return with a moral slant

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          • Cynical-old-bag says:

            And I suppose Labour are whiter than white?

            Don’t think so.

            People in glass houses……

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          • Infuriated of West Mids says:

            Right. So we have to go back to Major to get some decent Tory sleaze….? You’re really not even trying, are you?!

            How’s about Prescott, Blunkett, Jack Straw’s son, Robin Cook … For fuck’s sake I could go on and on.

            I’m not normally one to insult other posters, but I’m equally not someone who’s used to being called “scum” at least 4 times on this page currently.

            So, you, sir, are a bellend of the highest order, and I hope you stub your toe really badly tonight, and the nail goes all manky and funny-coloured.

            Twat.

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          • Amongymous says:

            When I’m not posting as anonymous I’m Moussa Koussa.

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      • 237
        Moley. says:

        You still haven’t told us who will lose benefits under what circumstances.

        One has to assume that you are peddling a complete fiction, unless you can provide the facts.

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      • 238
        Sybil Fawlty says:

        Don’t think you have a grasp of the policy

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        Balflower beater! says:

        Nice! so what did your paymasters do for the sick ? go on what?

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      • 289
        matronly advice says:

        Er, did we see you this time? Just checking.

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        Cat says:

        Yes, we ARE going to bog them down! As for ‘those poor suffering souls’ – why should we be expected to pay for their benefits when they have recovered?

        As for Macmillan – they will get nothing more from me. I give to charity, not a bloody Labour lobby group.

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  73. 213
    Fuck Labour says:

    Just sent mine.

    As outlined on your website, a charity must not give support or funding to a political party, candidate or politician. On Wednesday June 15 2011, Mike Hobday of Macmillan Cancer Support appeared on Sky News in which he made the admission that the office of Labour Party leader Ed Miliband had informed his office of Mr Miliband’s intention to ask a question about cancer at Prime Minister’s Questions, and Mr Hobday went on to say that his office had provided assistance by giving Mr Miliband information to use. Mr Hobday was a Labour candidate at the last general election.

    By giving support to the leader of the opposition for the purposes of Prime Minister’s Questions, Mr Hobday has clearly breached the guidelines concerning independence.

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  74. 217
    Moussa Koussa says:

    Oohhhh This has you all hot and bothered…worried hence all the feigned incredulity

    Attacking a charity – Macmillan at that …oh dear

    Errrrrrrr aren’t Macmillian a corner stone of Cock heads Big Society

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      Cynical-old-bag says:

      What ARE you on about?

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      • 251
        Engineer says:

        Ignore it – it’s the new resident Troll. Given the reliance on insult and invective, it’s possibly someone from the Ed Balls/Damian McBride school of political discourse.

        Moley asked it a polite question further up the thread about who was going to lose out by these changes to welfare reform, and how; he is still awaiting an answer.

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      • 351
        Stop supporting MacMillan says:

        He’s obviously just worked out how to spell “feigned incredulity” and is attempting to see how many times he can repeat it in one day.

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    • 242
      Moley. says:

      So who is going to lose out and under what circumstances?

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      • 253
        Mr Nice says:

        People who spend £7 on cigs every day for 40 years and then – durrr – get cancer, are perhaps not going to get as much money from the taxpayer as they think they deserve (according to some left-wing tosser from Macmillan Cancer Research).

        If it’s true: Good.

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          Cynical-old-bag says:

          Playing Devil’s Advocate, it could be argued that smokers have already paid a high rate of tax on every packet of cigarettes they buy. So they’ve already paid their dues if they have to be treated for illness in later life.

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          • Mr Nice says:

            The revenue raised from the sale of cancer-sticks doesn’t cover the cost of treating smoking-related illnesses.

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          sockpuppet #4 says:

          Fuck me, they did well.

          I’d have thought they’d have been dead by 1973 at that rate.
          They should get over to cancer research to see why they didnt.

          Are you actually suggesting that most people deserve to have cancer? Considering 0% of my unscientifically selected 10-30 people I’ve known with cancer didnt even have lung cancer.
          And considering saying “smoking makes you cough a bit” gets angry replys in these parts.

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          • Mr Nice says:

            Do most people deserve cancer? Probably not.

            But people with cancer generally deserve it. It’s a lifestyle illness. Serves them fucking right. And if they can afford the lifestyle that gives them cancer, why do they start mewling that need benefit money? If they can afford cigs, for example, they certainly don’t qualify for benefits.

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          • sockpuppet #4 says:

            Clearly you are a medical expert. And perhaps a sexually abstinate teetotal vegan.

            I shall not bore you with a list of some of those people I know/knew with cancer but I cannot see what they did to bring the risks on themselves.

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  75. 221
    Drop a Daisy cutter on the BBC says:

    I piss on all charities.

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  76. 222
    Wot U onabout? says:

    Why didn’t Dave just tell the truth and say he hadn’t got a clue what Ed was mithering on about and he would look into it later?

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    • 230
      Moussa Koussa says:

      Coz Ed caught him out. And when The Cock Cambo is in a spot, he always flounders. Please let this story roll and roll and roll, by weekend it will be 15,000 cancer sufferers who have been kicked in the teeth….Neo Con Scum

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      • 236
        Mr Nice says:

        Cameron? Neocon?

        Greetings from planet Earth.

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      • 240
        Cynical-old-bag says:

        You are a complete idiot.

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        Moley. says:

        Are you capable of intelligent thought.?

        You have been invited to provide details of who is going to lose out under what circumstances and all you appear able to do is to dribble and mouth “Neo Con scum” at frequent intervals.

        Provide us with some factual information please.

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        nell says:

        Your statistics are at least as good as gordon’s tractors stats used to be.

        according to hobday the labour stooge , highly paid from charity donations given for other purposes , 7000 patients are going to lose out on benefits. No proof provided for this contentious unsupported figure.

        now according to you, presumably a stooge of the stooge hobday ( are you also being paid from charitable donations given for other purposes?) it’s going to be 15000 by the weekend?

        how do you work that one out?

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  77. 228
    Billy Blofeld says:

    Looks like the tax payer are funding Macmillan to the tune of £2.3m per annum so that people like Mike Hobday can be employed to lobby on behalf of Labour.

    Do we have a new type of Pilgrim here?

    See page 38 of the chairity accounts

    http://www.macmillan.org.uk/Documents/AboutUs/RaiseAndSpend/AnnualReport2009.pdf

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    • 235

      We will uncover the truth.

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      • 278
        Moley. says:

        The 2009 accounts are a pretty good start.

        Annual expenditure on salaries and pensions £28, 770,000.

        That’s £28million.

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          is it says:

          that is hardly surprising as they employ Nurses – who I can tell you are worth every penny.
          Looked after my Dad (GRHS) good and proper

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          • Moley. says:

            The expenditure on nurses is a separate item.

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          • nell says:

            Indeed they do. But it is what else they employ that needs closer scrutiny. If you look further up the blog you will find lists of highly paid directors, managers and on and on swanning away like hobday in a swanky london office block in a prime location.

            If they did away with all those unnecessary overheads think how many more nurses they could employ?

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      Mr Nice says:

      Not only has this blown-up in Macmillan’s faces, but it’s exposed a whole load of these “third sector” wankers.

      Age Concern’s among them. Jesus fucking Christ. Are there any real charities out there? You know, ones still worth donating to?

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    • 246
      Moussa Koussa says:

      So in response….The Cock and his cockalition are gonna withdraw funding to macmillian….Go for it Neo Con Scum

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      • 255
        Moley. says:

        You have not explained who is going to lose out under what circumstances.

        You can’t can you?

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      • 260
        Cynical-old-bag says:

        Where is the evidence?

        Post the link so we can all see it, then.

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      • 261
        Mr Nice says:

        WAHAY! It’s taken a whole frigging year, but Cameron’s done something right!

        Macmillan losing funds? YES!

        Many more fake charities on the list.

        Try this one:
        http://fakecharities.org/2011/02/charity-328158/

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      • 264
        Balflower beater! says:

        Aww the leftoid is upset and using his whole swear word collection because his love the Ed has let him down ! don’t worry left batter another Labour leader will be along soon and maybe he won’t conspire to break charity commission rules to drag any other illnesses into hi Pr campaign !and now all the deaths and scandals in the N.H.S under labour are ‘historical’ he almost sounds less of a hypocrite!

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    • 256
      sockpuppet #4 says:

      they get 98% from charitable donations.

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        nell says:

        And it looks to me as if they spend most of it on highly paid paper pushers like hobday, company cars, expenses, pensions no doubt, fancy offices and precious little on providing for those patients they reckon they’re out to help.

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    There's a reason why the underclass shouldn't be allowed to have children says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-13779647

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    • 243
      Mr Nice says:

      “exposure to the drug had affected her development”

      Yeah, right. Given the history of the kid’s DNA, who’ll fucking notice?

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    • 249
      Cynical-old-bag says:

      Poor little mite.

      Her father deserves to have his balls cut off – without anaesthetic!

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      • 271
        Mr Nice says:

        Agreed.

        And then kill the kid before it hits puberty and starts replicating its dad’s DNA.

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    Special Case says:

    Why should people recovering from cancer be treated as special cases by the Social? It’s not the only deadly disease that folk recover from. Or is there something about the C word that politicians like to use to get one over other politicians?

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  80. 252
    Ban the Thumbs says:

    Those bloody thumbs make a long thread like this take ages to refresh.

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  81. 259
    That's News says:

    Paging the Sunlight Centre! Paging the Sunlight Centre! There’s a call for an investigation for improper conduct investigation in to the improper actions of Mike Hobday Head of Campaigns, Policy and Public Affairs for Macmillan Cancer Support, registered charity in England and Wales (261017), Scotland (SC039907) and the Isle of Man (604)! It is alleged he has used the charity for a political campaign.”

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  82. 263
    Jess The Dog says:

    Don’t knock Macmillans just because they have a PR person who takes more interest in his extra-curricular activities than his day job. That would be throwing out both baby and bathwater.

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      Mr Nice says:

      No, bollocks to them.

      The lefty tossers at Macmillan have made their bed, now they can lie in it.

      Next time they put one of their envelopes through your door, bin it or put “IOU a person’s support, signed: Labour” inside it.

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      Desperate Dan says:

      They’ve masquerading as a charity who care about the sick when all the time they’re a Labour Party lobbying group. The public have been deceived.

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    That's News says:

    Also when you look at this photo, don’t you want to ask him: “Hey, Vic! Where’s bob?”
    http://www.macmillan.org.uk/Aboutus/WhoWeAre/Our_people.aspx#DynamicJumpMenuManager_2_Anchor_11

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  84. 273

    1 minute ago: “Press Association reporter tells me he got the Macmillan cancer press release at 12.10. Coordinated with #PMQs. Unprecedented for a charity

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  85. 279
    Spank Sinatra says:

    Might I suggest that instead of writing to Macmillan to say that you will stop all donations henceforth, a better response might be to say that you are suspending any fund-raising/charitable giving to them for 3 months and that if Hobday is still in post, then you will review whether other charities working in the same field would be more suitable.

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  86. 286
    is it says:

    Guido, why don’t you and Harry invite him for a guys news interview?

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  87. 292
    MAD FRANKIE HADDOCK son of COD says:

    Breaking News :

    The Greeks are Revolting !

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  88. 299
    Aunt Hilda says:

    underhanded tactic by Ed no doubt in collusion with the plant at Macmilan…transparent expediency at it’s practiced best

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  89. 300
    MAD FRANKIE HADDOCK son of COD says:

    I would like someone from the tories to tell us after 13 months
    exactly how much of the deficit have they managed to pay off ?

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    • 316
      Moley. says:

      Deficit = difference between Government income and Government spending.

      Debt= The total amount outstanding that the Government has borrowed.

      It is the debt that (Never) gets paid off.

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    • 322
      Cynical-old-bag says:

      It took Labour 13 years to rack up this huge debt.

      Why should you expect the Conservatives to have even dented it in 13 months?

      Give ‘em a chance.

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    • 328
      Aunt Hilda says:

      probably not a lot Mad Frankie but that doesn’t mean their strategy is wrong…at least they have placed the debt under the cosh and have done well to avoid the terrible problems Greece..Ireland and Portugal have.

      Our economy was under critical scrutiny pre election and more of Brown et al would have done us real international damage…at least the Coalition has wiped the slate and are judged to be on track to balance…be that ever possible.

      Labour’s transparent lack of remorse or even acknowledgemnt that they lost control of the economy will haunt them for years.

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    On the subj of politicised charidees, FaceBook keeps serving me an Oxfam ad which asks “How can we solve rising food prices?” and then offers these alternatives:

    Stop using crops for fuel
    Regulate the markets
    Sort Climate Change

    So, there you go, the answer *must* of course be one of the three they offer. What a stinking crock.

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    Moley. says:

    Macmillan could and should have put this discussion into the public domain a long time ago.

    No one has any details as to who will lose out under what circumstances, because MacMillan have not released the information.

    What MacMillan has done is to conspire with the Opposition to cause the maximum amount of damage to the coalition Government.

    They have been more interested in playing politics than they are in providing for those with cancer.

    An absolute disgrace.

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    • 305
      Disgusted of Sink Estate says:

      This is exactly what they have done.

      Utter rats, I guess they won’t be expecting any increase in donations after this.

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  92. 308
    Merrill says:

    Anyone know anything about Marie Curie charity?.

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  93. 311
    Shilling again says:

    Another typical example of Liebour black-ops. Nobody gives a toss if a Liebour spokesman or Union twat say anything, because their political motives are obvious. So up step various charities and pressure groups who don’t have any obvious political association to the casual listener of viewer of the media, mainly BBC of course.
    Labour’s media friends can publicise these organisations and present them as making impartial concerned comment. It is just another drip in the constant flow of left-wing misinformation. I seem to recall this was a popular tactic with Labour and the BBC during the last Conservative government.

    Well done Guido for debunking this Labour shill. Shame the mass media will ignore such facts and Liebour, yet again,

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    • 313
      sockpuppet #4 says:

      the black-ops part is the use of PMQs and the timing.

      How much of the above heat and light would have been generated if it had gone through a more normal route of a PR exercise – newspaper stories and interviews that start at 8am on a tuesday?

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        Shilling again says:

        errr no!

        Using PMQs is a normal comms tactic.
        The presentation of polically motivated spin as impartial concerned opinion throughout the msm is black-ops deception.

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    Cynical-old-bag says:

    The revenue raised from the sale of cancer-sticks doesn’t cover the cost of treating smoking-related illnesses.

    How do you know this?

    For example:- If a person smokes 20 a day for 7 years at an average of £5 per packet, £12,775 would have been spent. The majority of that is tax and that’s only over seven years. People have smoked for a lot longer than that.

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  95. 317
    Nursie says:

    Meanwhile, all those outraged labourites who ‘care’ so much about people are all proposing to go on strike while the rest of us are thinking – they’re lucky to have a job.

    get over it, we had an election and you lost. time to budget for what we can afford.

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    • 332
      Moley. says:

      Does Ed support the strikes?

      Does he think it right for nurses and doctors to leave cancer patients without nursing or treatment?

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  96. 318
    labourunionsbbc we are one says:

    Chanel 4 news.

    Snotty snow,
    “good, that gives us tonights tory bashing smear”

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  97. 321
    Lucy Berger, Local Scouse Trollop says:

    If you’ve got less than 6 months to live, take out a £1000 overdraft and withdraw it.

    There’s your £92 a week problem solved.

    ps. Does anyone think that Gordon Brown’s e-mails to Ed Balls and co-conspirators look like those Nigerian 419 scams?

    DEAR SIR

    I WISH TO GIVE AWAY 3,9,000,000 GBP TO WHOEVER FOR WHATEVER REASON, PLEASEE GIVE ME YOUR BBANK DETAILS FOR DEPOSIT

    GORDON
    PREMIER MINISTER
    BRITON

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    • 331
      nell says:

      Nah. That’s gordon for you. He’s been in af rica for most of the last month apparently providing education for all of the kids in afr ica. Saving the continent so to speak .

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  98. 323
    nell says:

    Bottom line. For every £1 given to this charity, how many pence go to providing patient care?

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    • 349
      Hole in me pocket says:

      You’re £1 down before you start with Hobday on the payroll. Don’t bother chasing the pennies.

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  99. 325
    nell says:

    Anybody know how much hobday is paid . Does he have a company car, pension, private health etc also paid by macmillan? Does he draw expenses?

    And how is this justified when it is paid from the donations of people like you and me who believe we are giving/raising money to pay for the care of patients.?

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    Jess The Dog says:

    Again, this shouldn’t be laid at the doorstep of Macmillan. They have a rogue head of policy/ campaign director who sees the charity as an unofficial wing of the bankrupt Labour party, fighting on the health battleground. This is counter-productive to any notion of constructive political influence and lobbying.

    The Macmillan press release today is related to the Welfare Reform Bill, which is expected to have its third reading today (15 June) with no scope for credibly amending it further in the House of Commons. Macmillan have lobbied before for changes to this bill, opposing time-limiting of ESA, and have given evidence … the committee report can be found here:

    http://benefits.tcell.org.uk/forums/welfare-reform-bill-committee-stage-report-research-paper-rp1148-8th-june-2011) .

    Macmillan submitted a memorandum in support of this, which is here:

    http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201011/cmpublic/welfare/memo/wr15.htm

    The points raised by Macmillan, and taken forward as amendments, were either voted down (which is the democratic process) or withdrawn…in the latter case, presumably with the acceptance that the government assurances were satisfactory. The 7,000 figure does not appear in the memo submitted by Macmillan, but is alluded to in paragraph 3.3i (see footnote 2)

    FactCheck have looked at the 7,000 figure, and consider it to be sound in terms of methodology, albeit at the upper end of the spectrum and without enough data to judge how ‘sound’ the estimate actually is.

    http://fullfact.org/factchecks/ed_miliband_7000_cancer_patient_benefit_cut_macmillan-2773

    It looks as if this has been handed to Miliband as a political football for headline benefit without any scope whatsoever of amending the Bill. How could a Prime Minister simply amend up a bill at third reading, based on amendments which had already been voted upon at committee stage, literally hours before the third reading? Anyone with half a brain would realise this and Cameron hadn’t even been briefed properly so couldn’t speak to the issue. Six questions! It makes a mockery of Parliamentary democracy as well as undermining the rightful and well-intended lobbying of Macmillan.

    Macmillan are a serious organisation, to say the least, and medical and scientific ethics and objectivity are expected along with the impartiality of a charitable organisation. I doubt Mr Hobday will be in post for much longer. Need to keep an eye out for other ‘third sector’ Trojan horses!

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  101. 336
    genghiz the kahn says:

    Hobday forgot ” It takes 20 years to build a reputation and five minutes to ruin it.”

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    Voice of Treason says:

    As the millionaires Cameron and Clegg say to the cancer suffers – WE’RE ALL IN IT TOGETHER. Cameron is fast becoming a sick joke chasing his tail and handing out masses of money to foreign countries that we have to borrow in order to give it to them. Every day Cameron shows what an arsehole he really is.

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    • 353
      Anonymous says:

      Oh my lor, talk about another Labour hypocrisy over money. Here is Guido’s bit on Labour Shadow Cabinet millionaires, http://order-order.com/2010/10/11/shadow-cabinet-of-millionaires/
      Are these two faced socialists ready to give all to their brothers and sisters or live the life we live in the true spirit of socialism? Not on your life, they will jump and protest yet retreat to their country piles whilst the brothers and sisters they say they support can go to hell. What about Hilary Benn that well known son of Lord Stansgate aka Anthony Wedgwood Benn is he another true socialist or another two faced socialist millionaire? Nor will super rich Milliband who has never worked a day in his life yet is worth a mint give his wealth up for his true socialist beliefs. On the other hand, the hypocrite Dianne Abbot who sent her son to a fee-paying school yet denied others to do the same knowing that bog standard comprehensives she had to defend were crap and a waste of time but good enough for her socialist brothers and sisters children but not her own. Are these the true socialists you think know how we mortals live? Grow up. Labour super rich are the joke.

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  103. 339
    Sue Marsh says:

    This is desperate stuff Guido.

    The real scandal is that this affects 700,000 unwell people who are about to lose everything not just 7000 cancer patients. I wouldn’t go near it with a bargepole if I were you.

    The government answer is that “these people have other support” and what is it?
    A working partner who earns over 7k a year.
    Could you support a sick or dying partner on 7k a year Guido?

    If you think I can’t make this the No.1 issue in the UK, I got 6 questions on it at PMQs today! This is government crushing stuff and don’t be fooled – it might seem like an obscure technicality today, but I won’t rest until everyone knows what the full implications of this policy really are.

    ~A few cancer patients will seem like a walk in the park.

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    • 348
      Nelson's Eye says:

      I thought this applied to “recovering” patients who were able to do some work -not the sick or dying? Also they would be means tested -a favourite tool of the last Government- to determine if they still needed support.

      Where does the figure of 7,000 come from – how were the figures collated and on what basis? These figures and bandied around with supporting evidence. Emotions are not eveidence and single message organisations often manipulate data to suit their cause.

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    the next Mr Katona says:

    Want to know where your charity money goes ?

    About 12 years ago I had to make some signs for the British Heart Foundation. I reckon I just about made a brand new aluminium and plastic sign for every shop they had in the UK.

    £1500 a sign, some even more due to the size of the shop.

    They could have had a vinyl sign for less than £50 each.

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    Matthew Evans says:

    Pathetic. I know many peiople who have been helped by Macmillan, which does a wonderful job. I see your circle of readers is diminishing as it becomes more obvious you don’t have any real stories, just moans about the fact that lots of people don’t like what this government is doing.

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    Socialism is a mental illness says:

    Have a look at the ‘read elsewhere’ column, at the guardian piece, read the comments, and just look at what we are up against. Some silly bitch[ i take it the author is a woman ] called ‘sanity restored’ goes into some ridiculous political rant that defies belief, and to their credit, some of the other posters upbraid her for it, but she just goes on regardless. Some of the posters call us small-minded amongst other slag-offs. Interesting insight into the thinking of their readers, i would hit back at them eloquently, but was denied the comments priviledge after one too many attacks on Toynbee and Monbiot, they cannot take defiant criticism. Nazis.

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      Insanity defined says:

      I read the ravings od “sanity Restoreed” – the full gamut of A level political bilge. Probably a self important under graduate bore. Remember it is your duty to RESIST!

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    NotaSheep says:

    I blogged my disgust at Macmilan getting into politics and received a response from a Hilary Cross:
    ‘Thank you for your open letter to Macmillan. I am really sorry you feel you can no longer support us. We rely entirely on the generosity of the public to provide our vital services to people affected by cancer – so thank you for your support in the past. However, we do feel we’ve been misrepresented and I would really like to put the record straight about the accusations being directed at Macmillan. I would encourage you to look at the response from our Chief Executive on the Guardian website (http://www.guardian.co.uk/voluntary-sector-network/2011/jun/16/macmillan-cancer-support-reponds). At the end of the day, our priority is the up to 7,000 cancer patients who will lose over £90 per week at a time when they are most vulnerable. We will continue to represent their needs, without fear or favour.’

    I have responded to this and Chief executive Ciarán Devane’s Guardian piece here – http://notasheepmaybeagoat.blogspot.com/2011/06/open-letter-to-macmillan-cancer-support_17.html

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    Richard taylor says:

    I may now be living 12,000 miles away (in a country which deports foreign criminals), but I always enjoy Guido’s wry views on UK politics. This ‘event’ is to my mind related to the Blair philosophy of ‘policy by proxy’, the strategy for implementing political goals by usurping parliament and diverting substantial powers that should vest in Westminster, to Labour controlled quangos (e.g. Charity Commission). Now that they are in opposition the new spin on this strategy, seems to be to use Labour supporters in charities, NGOs and other organisations as platform-partners, from where they can launch coordinated political campaigns, which are purportedly non-partisan.

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    Gideon pOshborn says:

    It pains me to say it, but Milliband had Cameron on the ropes yesterday at PMQ’s. It was quite obvious that Cameron neither knows or cares what goes on in Britain, he is far more interested in looking Mr Benevolent the World statesman, borrowing money to give away and then expect the British taxpayer, (if they are lucky enough to have a job), to pay the loan plus interest. This out of touch millionaire and his millionaire cronies are a huge let down, none of the damage done by labour has been put right, all the promises have been broken, the British electorate has once again been cheated. We need another election now, and a party that beleives in democracy and Britain first.

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    Internet Hat Machine says:

    What about the 30 other cancer charities who’ve said exactly the same thing then? Not everything is an overarching Labour conspiracy you know.

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