Sources: Sunday Times & Mail on Sunday Have “Confession”
Guido understands that both the Sunday Times and the Mail on Sunday have evidence that is not in the form of a “sworn affidavit” as was claimed yesterday by rivals the Telegraph. It is nevertheless evidence from Vicky Pryce that gave the respective papers’ lawyers confidence to allow them to assert that Chris Huhne perverted the course of justice. A serious charge…
Today in the Daily Telegraph the same journalist, Mark Hughes, claims a police source says Vicky Pryce did not confirm claims she has previously made about taking her husband’s penalty points. It was Mark Hughes however who made the claim about a “sworn affidavit” and wrote yesterday in the Telegraph that it was “the likelihood that Miss Pryce told detectives that she took penalty points on behalf of her former husband when she was interviewed on Tuesday.” An about turn in 24 hours…
Given the existence of her evidence, if it is true that Vicky Pryce has declined to assist the police, the police will almost certainly obtain a Court Order for the evidence from the newspapers. Not long now...
Prepare the lamposts!
looks like the Huhne has got away with it then. I wonder how much he had to pay her.
Given the existence of her evidence, if it is true that Vicky Pryce has declined to assist the police, the police will almost certainly obtain a Court Order for the evidence from the newspapers. Not long now…
She could also be done for wasting police time…
A mere piss in the ocean to what Dave Camerons Blue Labour is throwing away:
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=534958&in_page_id=2&expand=true
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/g8/8538999/G8-David-Cameron-hits-out-at-world-leaders-over-international-aid.html
What about the British people Dave?
WHAT ABOUT US?
Note to PM… forget youyr “Big Society” rubbish and doling out foreign aid that we can’t afford to foreign regimes…when you’re cutting services etc here at home..get your priorities right and stop trying to strut the World stage or getting us involved in another unwinnable war in Libya
I guess she has to weight up how it looks in a divorce proceeding, if
a) she plans to expose her hubby
b) she contacts newspapers to do so
c) then in meeting with police her evidence in any way varies
She could loose access to her kids after alll….. if she can be painted as a vindictive person……
Huhne said claims “incorect”…. so thats a line of defense that one can hide behind…
Fuck the British people
Well done Dave and Hague for Libya.
The war criminal (and criminal – people forget that contracts were signed giving western companies 70% of profits from Iraqi oil for 30 years) Bliar waded in, sorry, sent young British servicemen wading into Iraq to help Bush’s quest for oil.
Dave and Hague on the other hand became engaged in a quest to save Lybians from a Mladic wannabe, thus saving potentially hundreds of lives from the mad butcher Gaadafi.
Mega kudos to Dave and Hague.
Sorry, that should be Dave and Hague potentially saved hundreds of thousands from the mad butcher Gaadafi.
The mad butcher they armed for dozens of years, right?
Nothing to do with oil, eh?
Only last year they were all kissing his feet.
Dread, her kids are all grown up I think, well, most of them – won’t happen.
How the fuck can she get done for wasting Police time ?
To do so you first have to make an official report to the police which you know to be untrue and thus waste their time as they investigate it.
As far as I know she hasn,t made an official report to them of any descriprtion whether true or not. if the police want to raise an enquiry on the back of Newspaper stories then that is up to them.
What bollox you talk.
She can waste police time by giving conflicting stories.
Are you dim?
It’s a criminal investigation; they don’t need a court order. They can just seize it. Although, they would probably need a search warrant, depending upon the circumstances.
If she won’t talk then its game over. The Huhne walks free.
unless other evidence shows her to be in a completely different place at the time of the offence – in which case they won’t need her testament.
You totally misunderstand the offence. Merely, by itself, just because she ‘took the points’ for what later turned out not to be her, doesn’t mean that she did it knowingly and wilfully, nor that she entered into a conspiracy to do so. They both would be guilty of s172 (failure to supply), but the more serious allegations require proof that they did it knowingly and wilfully, and that they agreed to do it (for the conspiracy).
Don’t get out much do you, Billy?
Keep the Huhne fires burning.
Get a job billy boy and stop poncing of the state.
I think you’re making assumptions.
Justine and I would like to extend an invitation to all the window lickers assembled here to come celebrate our nuptials today at:
Langar Hall Country Cropwell Road
Langar, Nottingham NG13 9HG
Ps. Has anyone seen David?
Sorry I’m opening up a new Morrisons in Wigan today.
I should have known it.
Justine is a lawyer who specialises in the Environment, Health and Safety and PFI
http://www.39essex.co.uk/members/profile.php?id=55
Thhe workth on Ethics thtreet?
Yup no surprises there, all these psych-troughers are drawn to each other like magnets, each feeding off the other – quite revolting … funny how so many pair up with ambulance chasers…
Amazing how many lawyers are packed into both houses and how many criminals-is there a link
next are the cambridge/oxford group who ALL seem to have studied politics,psychology and sociology,no wonder all parties are socialists,we mock the french but we simply use two universities and they use one
Yes there is a link – ditto with plod, they are as bent as most criminals, in some cases far worse – and they all get away with it (BOAZ) with a few scapegoats offered in sacrifice every now and then (not BOAZ enough)…
Hollo is anybody there ?
or even “hello”
Hallo? Hullo? Wer ist das?
Heroooow !
no shortage of uni places for us then !
now where do i pay my £27,000 per ann
Yeah but you’re only going to study Maths, Physics, Engineering or Computation.
You need the Chinese state to subsidise you doing 4 years of weed and getting a Degree in Art-History and spending a year researching and obscure French painter that no-one bought his work to really get the economy going…
/sarcasm.
You keep saying ‘not long now’ but STILL NOTHING’S BLOODY HAPPENED.
I want blood. And I want it now.
Three MPs are on suicide watch
Please give them some rope
Tried slashing your wrists?
David Laws.
Claiming benefits and allowances he’s not entitled to, paying rent to his partner at taxpayers expense. Gets a week off work.
This pair, doing precisely the same thing, get 16 months:
http://bit.ly/llLj2U
In the eyes of politicians Hetrosexuals should never prosper !
Same (or less) income than Jacqui Smith 70 – 100,00 and about the same theft 120 – 160,000 pounds
Liked the judge’s comment:
the public would be ‘staggered’ by their dishonesty.
Sorry, what was the question again?
Where’s East Anglia?
abroad innit
“A broad”, innit? You talkin’ about me?
Why has this taped phone conversation been handed over or even requested by the plod ?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1387216/Chris-Huhnes-phonecall-silence-claims-tried-dodge-speeding-points.html
Phone conversation “NOT”been handed over ffs
Yes indeed, everyones conveniently seems to be forgetting about the TAPE with the huhne foaming at the mouth and more or less saying “Shut your gob you bitch or we’ll both do time!”…
“the police will almost certainly obtain a Court Order for the evidence from the newspapers. Not long now…”
Given the standard of journalism so far by the Telegraph, probably something scribbled on a wet piece of bog roll and signed X…
On a sidenote I fully expect to see “Born XXXX, died “Not long now….”" engraved on Guido’s gravestone!
Anyway the real reason for me dropping in is to laugh at the huge day-glow bollock he’s now dropped on the Huhne scandal, what a nob he is! The whole fucking thing was based on a tiff with his ex-wife, I told him if they make up your fucked!
Would he listen…
No wonder you’re hiding behind your sockpuppets again.
Why doesnt Hunt just man up, Admit he done wrong and take the punishment?
Could it be the fact he may be innocent or the fact he is a politicon and therefore thinks he is above the law and has a meglomanic state of mind or is it the fact he is a Hunt?
If you were hanging off a cliff by your fingers, and it seemed 90% likely you were going to lose your grip and fall. Would you give up there and then? Or keep on a hold for as many more minutes as you could.
We need to be stamping on Huhne’s fingers.
No real need for you or I to do that.
Show me a lieing bastard & I will show you a potential politician.
Looks like she has been threatened that if he goes down, she goes to jail as a willing conspirator, after all she took the charge for someone else. She is just as guilty of conspiracy.
If they both get sent down I’d wager she will be safer in the showers than him.
The huhne wouldn’t be safe in the Governor’s office! The Chapel! The prison hospital! A padded cell! etc etc
Might i suggest tree surgeons chainsaw proof trousers or failing that get a contract with KY jelly for a celeb endorsement-as big bubba on e wing says if he can walk he can talk!
will the unions have to bailout a unpopular left-wing website?
my farting policy is as follows
Fart in the company of females – deny
Fart in the company of “the boys” – take full responsibility for all farts, biffs, trumps and guffs
Fart when alone – save it in a crisp bag for later
At every opportunity leave one in an empty lift to ambush the next passenger (and chuckle to oneself whilst walking away)
My favourite fart is the cheese brump – no cheek lift, preferably on a vinyl chair
A mate of mine (who was then a partner in a big 4 accountancy firm ) thought he would let one out in his office after a night on the beers and ended up shitting himself. Cue much wasted time clearing up and a trip to M&S for new undies. Never did know what code he charged that to.
Perhaps at the time he was reviewing the one eyed mongs budget predictions…
Slotgob or Justine would know!
In shadow cabinet meetings I like to do a Silent But Deadly and then stare pointedly at Ed.
But the stain gives it away-red wine is deadly
“not long now” yeah yeah yeah.
“another year and we’ll be happy” as gerry rafferty said.
An affidavit would not be introduced in a criminal case unless the person refused to give a witness statement but admitted the affidavit existed. A court order would be required to get it. As VP is a party to the offence, the police would offer her a Formal Caution in return for an admission of guilt and a statement as to her involvement which means she is properly dealt with in the eyes of the law and is then free to be a witness against Huhne. Unless she flatly denies being involved and police are solely relying on other evidence VP doesn’t really have a ‘choice’ about helping if she doesn’t want to be in the dock with him. I suspect she has made her statement, had her Caution and the details passed to the CPS for a decision on charging The Secretary of State or not.
That’s good;now we can leave it to the CPS to trot out the “insufficient evidence to be certain of a conviction” line.
Move along,nothing to be seen here.
If Chris Hoon was speeding, was he damaging the environment and polluting the atmosphere ?
Wasn’t he doing 40mph on a motorway?
Dick Strawbridge’s moustache is more of a danger than that.
Today ith the happietht day of my life! I’m doing thomething that will help me become prime minithter. No, ignore that, I mean I’m finally marrying the love of my life.
I’m the real father!
I came home from work and Carina Trimingham said to me
“Fancy a 69″
I said “no thanks, I’ll have a 72. I hate sweet and sour pork”
I really fancy your No2 !
I think you’ll find that a 72 is a 69 with 3 fingers up your arse.
If it was four fingers, it’d be a “Kit Kat”
Where does the Toblerone fit in?
Any change?
Here you are mate !
have 50p for a cup of tea 1
Was it me or did QT seem a bit more balanced last night – possibly jusdt because they steered away from economy. Even Hilary Benn who has morphed into his dad seemed to be talking sense at times
I’ve met Hilllary Benn and found him to be a smug arrogant twat.
Like father like son…
Chip off the old block.
Your drink must have been spiked
It was a well weired QT. Even the lefties in the audience were shot down by all the panel members.
Given up watching it.
And its been balanced for a long time:
– pro labour panel and chairman
– pro labour audience
+1
Audience stuffed with bused-in effnix.
yep,every audience must be representative of ………………..Brent
The trouble with QT is that the lefties are just noiser, because like most socialists, they think they must force their ideals and opinions down everyone else’s thoat because they, and only they, know best, hence the manic-sea-lion-esque applause.
Meanwhile, any liberals or conservatives in the audience just sit quietly and look rather bemused by all the faux outrage.
Tonight I thall be taking Juthtine up the jackthie.
Be sure to remove the Toblerone first!
If only it were true.
It really depends on how interested the Police are in investigating this. I always thought she was either poorly advised or not thinking it through because she is as guilty as he is. Having raised the matter saying “No comment” (well within her rights) isn’t necessarily an answer. The Police know the vehicle and they presumbably know that Huhne is the registered keeper. He will have got the form and put her name on it (or perhaps she did at his request). They will also know when and where the camera went off and so if they can get some reliable evidence of where each of them was – if she can’t have been driving then she has to come up with some explanation. Ideally the Police need to have enough evidence of their whereabouts to charge both of them. Then, in the legal parlance, it becomes a “cut throat” as each blames the other to save themselves. That way they both end up going down. However I suspect you’ll end up with some mealy mouthed statement from the Police/CPS saying that they can’t be sure after all these years where exactly they were and so there is not enought to convict. Probably just as bad for Huhne as everyone will just continue to assume he is guilty and treat him accordingly.
If they know when and where the camera went off, they havent released that information.
Nice info, but what about the tape where the huhne is badgering his wife to cover up what happened, to the extent of telling her how to cut off inquisitive reporters – also, pay attention to the last bit of the tape where the huhne declares he never did it, and VP’s reaction!
Eh?
I fookin ate Barcaloner
Didn’t you leave some for me ?
What a thag nite!!! DVD’th of political thpeecheth, famouth quoteth of my idolth. A thpecial metthage from Gordon. What more could you want to be in touch with the thqueezed middle!
Oh I dont know,maybe a tattoo of that woman who didnt have marrs baby!
Sharon Shoesmith won her case. Balls and Harringey set her up as scapegoat
She might have won, but in the end the taxpayer lost.
The whole sorry affair has only cost a million pounds or so.
Gordon and I were used to wasting BILLIONS.
Not just the taxpayer.
First they came for my points, i said nothing…..
Huhne is going to get away with this.
His wife will not now provide the police with the necessary information, as to do so would incriminate her as well. Irrespective of how Huhne himself comes across, she seems to be almost as bad as he is. Having started the proverbial hare, she now, apparently, refuses to help progress the matter any further.
What about the tape? What about the daughter willing to back up VP about the huhne bullying VP to go along with the conspiracy? Both alibi’s so far only implicate 1 person, the huhne.
You are joking if you think we are going to subpoena newspapers for evidence against an MP and fellow Member of the Craft. Boaz. Have a nice weekend Chris.
The Huhne divorce settlement probably hasn’t been finalised yet.
Money talks and a few million pounds can shout “Shut up” very loudly.
And he will pay up. He will do anything to remain in the government. (like his complete about turn on nuclear power)
His about turn on nuclear power is more likely the result of people with rather more insight than he explaining to him in very simple terms the problem of long-term energy security in Britain.
They might also like to explain that windfarms are a waste of effort and taxpayers’ cash.
Not from our point of view it isn’t. Keep those subsidies rolling guys!
“Vestas – Take from the Poor – Give to the Rich!”
Maybe huhne might explain how TaT can power his pooter when the national grid hits the buffers and the renewables ignore his canute like incantations
Sorry mate
but i had to post this when i saw your moniker it made me smile !
You are not even suggesting that there is the teeniest, weeniest possibility that Chris Huhne, millionaire cabinet minister and egomaniac, would offer a higher settlement sum to his ex-wife to avoid criminal charges and keep his job, are you?
Good Lord, that would be awful …………….
O/T Here is that Nick Rеschеr lίnk that would not work last night:
http://www.iep.utm.edu/reductio/
(Questioned by crash about my moniker, I had replied that it аppеаlеd to me because it offered a metaphor for politics. The use of reductio ad absurdum has long been a wonderful tool for debunking unsound arguments.)
I found this one a bit easier to understand.
http://www.mtnmath.com/faq/meas-qm-3.html
There is a degree of symmetry between the Huhne affair, (was it him or her driving, did he put her name down and forge her signature without telling her or was it all done with her prior knowledge and agreement?) and Schrodinger’s Cat Paradox.)
If nobody saw what happened, maybe it didn’t happen.?
Agree. The one difference is money though.
Hold on, I’ll urgently email Michio Kaku for his opinion!
Don’t forget to use HyperSpace Markup Language.
Genuine LOL! Arf!
Does a tree falling in the forest make a sound if there’s no-one there to hear it ?
Of course it bloody well does.
Can a one handed man clap hands? Of course he can.
Can a one-eyed man run Great Britain? No.
Give it up Fawkes, the story is dead now. It is going nowhere. Chris is safe.
Sharon Shoesmith wins appeal in baby P case !
Is nobody is accountable for anything anymore ?
another couple of million gone to waste !
Given that Shoesmith was a scapegoat. Hung out to dry by Ed Balls and NULabia simply to satisfy public opinion I am not surprised.
Mr Huhne had a wife who:
Is an eminent and respected economist;
Was so loyal to him that she allegedly took penalty points on her licence for him; and
Is interesting, sylish and very intelligent –
and he throws her over because the arrogant fool can’t keep his knob inside his Y-fronts.
Men, eh?
Dont trust em unless they r in the Parchute regiment
Sharon Shoesmith wins appeal in high court in baby P case
so Ed Ball’s was wrong yet again
another couple of million up the spout
The legal case against ‘Balls’ by Shoesmith, has just been announced. The ruling severely criticise’s Balls. Big mouth BALLS cannot be contacted for a comment.
It is all because this government is cutting too fast and too deep. The economy is flat lining after sustained Labour Growth. Sorry, what was the question?
I took full responsibility and sacked the person responsible. Well, sacked someone, anyway.
Was it Sue again ??
Sue Smith?
I am pointless. No really, I am genuinely pointless.
I agree with you pet and understand everything you’ve not said about your driving.
Sacking Sharon Shoesmith was the only right thing Blinky ever did. She’s a wretched c unt who said she was proud of her record and had nothing to apologise for, and then went to Ascot to chug on champagne the same day details emerged of the baby’s death. She’s a c unt who should rot to death.
Have to agree – she failed over and over, and still shows no real remorse.
She is a nightmare, but I suspect the alternative is the kind of person who is very good at producing remorse when required.
How about Balls and Shoesmith fighting a duel with weapons that are non-lethal but capable of causing severe pain and disfigurement?
Looks like that’s already happened.
Disagree. She’s shown consistently huge
remorse and was wreckage herself of Balls
rapid self preservation strategy.Socialism
is at fault.
She showed lots of remorse downing the champagne and saying “My department did an excellent job”. She’s the archetypal public sector c unt.
She’s not and she isn’t.
Is too.
+1. However, Labour and leftish ideology have contributed to promoting people like Shoesmith. Their benefits policies directly led to an unpleasant and inadequate young woman farming babies as a lifestyle choice and then becoming wound-in to a vicious cuckoo who reveled in the public money and private torture this stupidity afforded him.
Which is not to excuse the nasty young woman – she did deliberately deceive both doctors and social workers – but the ideology fosters monsters like this. Then Shoesmith benefitted from having plenty of them, doing nothing to challenge it and everything to make sure there would be plenty more for her to make a living off.
If you are a civil servant you can utterly fail at your job, run a department so appallingly that your failures lead indirectly to deaths, yet of course, its not your fault and you should damn well NOT be held to account.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13570959
Er…she wasn’t a civil servant.
Excuse my ignorance, but what was she then? Did she not Direct childrens services. And if she wasn’t a civil servant how come Balls could sack her?
Im confused now….
Still, whatever she was, she doesn’t deserve her job back.
The point is she wasn’t held to account – Balls just sacked her – “the secretary of state did not afford Ms Shoesmith the opportunity to put her case”. This has been deemed unlawful regardless of the circumstances
Red Ed should ask Knob Ed for his resignation by the end of his nuptials.
I walked into my local “Get Fit Club”, and stood up and announced
“Hi, my names Chris Huhne, and I’ve lost 5 pounds since last week”
The other members all stood up and gave me a standing ovation…
… Obviously nobody had found my lost £5 note so I stood up and walked out.
I don’t like my pampers.
a apple a day improves my intelligence
Buy an orchard.
Suck my clunge.
Can i just make a small point on the Sharon Shoesmith thing, she didnt kill Baby P, That was down to Baby P sick and twisted Mother and her drug-fuelled boyfriend , Labour really have brainwashed people that nothing is thier fault.
Agree
Not.
Yes thats right, she didn’t kill baby P and you are right ‘Labour really have brainwashed people that nothing is thier fault.@
This statement clearly includes Shoesmith here. However Shoesmiths department had many opportunities to intevene and they failed. No reason for her to keep her job.
The dear luvvies Shoesmith employed were too AFRAID to do their job – solution, have some heavies accompany these wimmin and make sure that the children are duly PROTECTED!
Shoesmith FAILED!!!
Baby P is JUST ONE – there are 100s more at risk in that rotten borough still…
So the labour party killed baby P ?
I am old enough to have met a variety of psychos who were brought up under various governments. Brainwashing my arse.
No, what i meant was that over time we have seen the lack of personal resposabilty( It was sues fault, It started in America etc), Anyone working in that situation (Vunrable kids) has the hell off a job dealing with the lowest of the low.
They will never get 100% right on every case.
But my main point was that the Mother and Boyfreind were responsable for Baby Peters death.
I thought one was supposed to blame the beatles, or sex on the TV, or 60s sociologists. Some people blame “no such thing as society” of course.
I don’t really believe that people many years ago didn’t chose to blame someone/something else for their selfishness or idiocy. Its a pretty profound human trait.
(PS: I forgot: video nasties, video games, goths, mods, rockers, dungeons and dragons)
P.S. Just went into town and saw one of those smug posters for smug David Walliams’ latest smug show.
Is there, in all Britain – nay, in the whole world – a more punchable face than his?
No
Did someone call?
my second favourite fart is the trombone
this requires lots of sphincter control and any hint of moisture will turn the trombone into a quack
Gordon likes my chucky egg
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tromboning
Nae
I just found this
it just goes to prove how important it is for “Johnny Foreigner”to learn English !
what is the matter with learning Scotch?
A lern hic ! scotch an ma wife hic ! threw ma sorry arse hic ! into the gutter
Wel dun ya jus no its no yur dae when ya menta Simon Cowl dunna bak ya new korea in merica?
I min ta sae wot is rong wiv me axent like, how cums they dunna unnerstan mi?
Im a rite good luka me ana can look like acan sing reely well ova a dubd trak on tv an stuff
Stil bet itllall work out at the enof the day, maybes in London Xfaktor.
Pass me some more spraytan luv!!
Girls Aloud played at St James’ Park in their last tour.
They won 3-0
Give up. No sane prosecutor would touch this with a bargepole given how clear it is that the only prosecution witness is crazy as a shithouse rat. The affidavits if they exist prove nothing – just another inconsistent statement or two to add to the list
Guido and king Keaul have also helped Huhne immeasurably by putting out prejudicial coverage ensuring that he has a first class impossible-to-get-a-fair-hearing argument to add to the my-wife-is-batshit argument. Well done lads.
“It is fairly obvious that wall-to-wall excoriation in national newspapers, whether tabloid or ‘broadsheet’, is likely to be significantly more intrusive and distressing for those concerned than the availability of information on the internet,” Eady added.
Grauniad.
But only if you have a big wallet can you get the courts to injunct the press. The man is in cloud cuckoo land.
This internet thing will never catch on.
Now, why hasn’t my copy of the Evening News been delivered ?
Whats the betting mass murderer Mladic is unfit to stand trial ?
funny how when they get their collar felt they suddenly become too ill and mentally unstable
he’s had 16 years of freedom
we all know he is guilty the world saw the evidence
no need for a tril just drag the fucker out into the street and hang the bastard !
Thanks Charles. That’s a good tip in case I get my collar felt.
Has the divorce gone through yet? Because if it hasn’t, then surely the police cannot force her to testify against her husband. And if she can’t be forced to testify against her husband, how can the police get a court order to seize a document in which she er, testifies against her husband.
Hopefully, she is just playing hard to get and wants the police to do a deal in which she spills the beans in court in return for not being prosecuted.
A previous inconsistent statement made to a newspaper is hardly the basis for launching a prosecution in a criminal court. Unfortunately. She’s not a compellable witness for the prosecution.
If she was suspected of an offence she would have been cautioned. So too would he.
However, perhaps she merely confirmed that the version of events doing the rounds was “incorrect” on that basis that she didn’t “take the points” which implies knowledge and collusion, but ended up with the points because the driver denied bing the driver, falsely alleged that she was, intercepted the PCN addressed to her, admitted the offence on her behalf, and stole her driving licence, which involves which is a huhnous course of criminal conduct.
The Police will not want their time wasted. It may be that VP alone will now be prosecuted for perverting the course of justice by admitting the offence when she could not have been there. ie a prosecution based on her cast iron alibi. What she says in Defence or mitigation however may generate admissible evidence about the role of another. A conviction will thrown the light on to Huhne. So too would an acquittal depending on the basis of it. In either case Huhne will be a necessary competent and compellable witness.
OT = Balls in bother over the Baby P case