May 20th, 2011

Schillings Idiocy Goes Global

What did the law firm Schillings tell Ryan Giggs they would achieve for him? Did they tell him they would ensure his name would go around the world on Twitter as never before?*

Wasting their client’s money…

UPDATE: The floodgates have opened, mainstream US media is naming Giggs; Forbes Magazine and Conde Nast’s Ars Technica. US based Brit Nick Denton’s Gawker is mocking the injunction as well.

*Data from Trendistic.


261 Comments

  1. 1
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Cash?

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      Percy Thrower says:

      Giggs has gone from hero to zero in a few short weeks. He is now showing King Canute type arrogance.

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        Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

        Nope, He still does what he is paid to do(Play football), Public image is of a dedecated pro that has won loads of medals for the socailist boss (Fergie a Labour supporter, Has Meet Ed Miliband and a donor and tax avoider) , But does not take Taxpayers money ( tho the socailist idiots in Manchester dont relise) , And the club is finaiced thro capitisim.

        what a wierd lot?

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      • 8
        The Paragnostic says:

        He’s still something of a role model on the pitch – anyone playing at his level at his age, and for one club throughout his career, is exemplary.

        Don’t give a toss what he gets up to when he’s not playing footie – but the arrogance of the judges who are making the law up as they go along annoys me.

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          Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

          dont wanna piss of the host but i agree, He is paid to do a job , what he does with 2 consenting adults is his buisness.

          However, if he was a public servent then its different.

          Sorry Guido about the posts but i find this intresting , Public intrest v right to a private life.

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          • The Paragnostic says:

            I’m not that concerned if a newspaper wants to publish a kiss and tell about anyone – if it’s so important to keep a squeaky clean image, then don’t go dipping your wick in someone elses tallow.

            One thing about Giggs is that he hasn’t sought to profit from that image – unlike the egregious John Terry who took money for articles praising him as a family man, then got upset when his extracurricular activities were publicised.

            So I have some sympathy for him, but that’s outweighed by my utter contempt for the judges who think they can impose a privacy law by misinterpreting the HRA.

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          • Hank Kingsley says:

            Sex is not dirty thing. It’s a loving act involving two or more consenting adults.

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          • The Paragnostic says:

            You’re obviously something of an ing&eacu;nu, Hank.

            Sex can be very dirty indeed if you meet the right sort of lass…

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          • Magpie says:

            if it’s so important to keep a squeaky clean image, then don’t go dipping your wick in someone elses tallow.

            Howay and nae leavin yer glass in summuns face!

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          • nowt as thick as a football thicko says:

            manc twat

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          • One thing about Giggs is that he hasn’t sought to profit from that image says:

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        • 58

          Can’t anyone see the writing on the wall?

          Schillings

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        • 62

          Here you reveal your complete cluelessness as to what is at stake….

          arsehole, the wanker on newsnight has declared war on you and me and anyone posting on the internet

          this fucking Hunt from you know who backed SHILLINGS wants to put the fear of GOD upon anyone posting on the internet

          it is very fucking SIMPLE mr 11 plus man

          have you figured out the enormitude yet???

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          • The Paragnostic says:

            Calm down and lay of the Bucky.

            They’re welcome to come after me – I don’t give a toss.

            And they have no power whatsoever over anything posted on sites or services not controlled from the UK.

            You really are a sadly deluded pillock.

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          • Calm down and lay of the Bucky.

            They’re welcome to come after me – I don’t give a toss.

            And they have no power whatsoever over anything posted on sites or services not controlled from the UK.

            You really are a sadly deluded pillock.

            I see.

            You form your philosophical worldview day by day according to how it affects YOU!!!

            You are clearly a fucking MORON of the highest order, with no clue at all about what is happening NOW, what is about to happen NEXT, and what has happened since Sumer.

            You are a fucking SHEEP of the highest degree!

            OH! How your masters enjoy fucking with the masses, when you are in the top 70pc.

            As I said in the last thread, you may lick my clit.

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          • The Paragnostic says:

            If there is any better way of forming a view of the world than how it affects me, then please enlighten me.

            No doubt your world view is similarly informed by your own experience, but you seem to have suffered a lot if your output is anything to go by.

            As it happens, I enjoy licking clit – but I am, unfortunately for you, a bit choosy.

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          • Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

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          • If there is any better way of forming a view of the world than how it affects me, then please enlighten me.

            No, you are past it mate.

            No doubt your world view is similarly informed by your own experience, but you seem to have suffered a lot if your output is anything to go by.

            Implying that YOU haven’t – how fucking SELFISH IS THAT???

            As it happens, I enjoy licking clit – but I am, unfortunately for you, a bit choosy.

            No – you are a bit sad.

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          • smoggie says:

            Ahhh! Top Boy has never tasted pussy.

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      • 240
        King Canute Fan Club says:

        Poor old King Canute, the most misunderstood monarch (by the uneducated) in history. Read the story – he was demonstrating to his nobles the limits of his power, not trying to hold back the tide. Amazing how many journos and politicians get it wrong. Give the old sod a break…..

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    • 28
      Up sh1t creek says:

      The interview with the lawyer representing the mystery footballer was car crash TV.

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    • 56

      This is the problem here – everyone speaks in TEXT mode, nobody seems to have a fucking clue, with a few exceptions.

      Smart arse comments all the time – waste of time.

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      • 227
        Alex says:

        You wouldn’t be able to make any smart arsed comments, as you’re too fucking thick.

        Now run along and play with the traffic.

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    • 152
      Bill E Ous says:

      Bit weird why the DTel is quoting Falconer for no apparent reason, http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/8526208/Blogger-reveals-that-billionaire-obtained-gagging-order.html

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    • 217
      Anonymous says:

      Good, glad his name has spread like wildfire for tryng to control the web. Just hope governments don’t use this as another pretext to control the web that little bit more. But they will won’t they?

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  2. 2
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Reminds me of that tune:

    Pet Shop Boys, Lets make Lots of money.

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  3. 3

    No Win, No Fee!

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    • 206
      Chris Bryant says:

      Even amongst footballers, Ryan Giggs is considered to be thick as shit so Schillings probably had to communicate through pretty pictures.

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  4. 5
    Octavius Tinsworth Ace says:

    Reminds me of old lawyer’s bill: – “To seeing you in street – 5 guineas”, “To crossing street to bid you good day – 10 guineas”, “To re-crossing street on finding it was not you – 15 guineas”

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    • 64

      Ha

      surely a brain like yours can see the implications here?

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    • 82
      Counter-Bill says:

      … “To crossing the street, and re-crossing to confound your little tricks, and smashing you in the face with my cane, and for the replacement of said cane, 45 guineas. And for your conceit at being a lawyer in trade and causing my shirt to be blemished with your blood, a further 10 guineas”

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    They make their own beds it's not the place of the justice system to tidy up after them says:

    Ryan Giggs is a really good footballer.

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    • 14
      Ned Ludd says:

      But clearly shit at shagging

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      • 17
        Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

        its not illegal to be shit at shagging

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        • 22
          Ned Ludd says:

          But in street cred terms its championship not premiership standards

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          • Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

            Lower leagues have thier own charm and romanace.

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          • The Paragnostic says:

            Shut up Billy – my team’s in the Blue Square next season!

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          • Ned Ludd says:

            Like girls from Gorseinon?

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          • Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

            Mine in Champoionship, 80 million in debt, losing all best players, But i back my club tho thivk and thin :-)

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          • The Paragnostic says:

            Up the Iron, eh, Billy?

            It’s all a plan – the pornographers and the woman who sells dildos for a living will recoup most of their investment through selling Parker et al,

            Anywhere else, it would be called asset stripping.

            Best of luck, though – always had a soft spot for the Hammers.

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          • Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

            Not a fan of the owners, But they saved us from going Bank****, Thanks for the kind words :-)

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          • The south bank 1976 says:

            Courtesy of Newham taxpayers buying the the Olympic stadium prior to them selling off the Boleyn ground.
            Without owning a plot of land, what is the club worth?

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          • Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

            If Guido was Good he could expose this sham, But the trail is well hidden.

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      • 87
        Anonymous says:

        Nearly. Clearly shit at effectively gagging the press. Shagging’s the cause.

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    • 65

      Again the completely clueless peanut gallery embarrass themselves.

      Not a fucking clue.

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  6. 9
    joescotus says:

    if he is thick enough to believe a lawyer is acting in his interests……welsh git!

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    • 15
      The Paragnostic says:

      You waycist! I’m going to say something nasty about the Scots now, just to get my own back!

      No – can’t be bothered.

      My favourite Shakespeare line is “First, kill all the lawyers.”.

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      • 67

        Try saying something sensible.

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        • 73
          Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

          If you dont like it , You are free to collect your refund and fuck off :-)

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        • 84
          The Paragnostic says:

          After you, Claude…

          Even if I did say something interesting, your basic level of comprehension would dictate that I said it very, very slowly to give you a chance to take it in.

          If you have anything useful to add to the comments, please flag it up – your efforts so far would disgrace even TaT.

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          • Let me make this clear – all you and your “mates” do is make pathetic one-liners or else embarrass your mothers and fathers at how racist and thick stunted and vile their offspring has turned out to be.

            HTH

            Try in future all of you peanut gallery types to add something to the discussion.

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      • 94
        dennis diderot says:

        “ We shall not be free until the last lawyer is strangled with the guts of the last environmentalist… .’

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        • 197
          Archer Karcher says:

          Now that I would pay to watch, provided I could kill the victor of course.

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          • ay 21, 2011 at 8:20 am

            Why do you feel the need to make so many comments? Your spelling and grammar are hopeless, and your comments are mostly ignorant and at best pathetic. You should fuck off and die. You are a tosser of the highest order.

            That’s no way to speak to smoggie!

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  7. 10
    Bazz says:

    This is racist, it is all just because he is Welsh, if he was French, no one would bother, if he was Scottish it would take years to come out, if German… OK if there were no swastikas, American, then only if you were foreign or played golf….no it is because the Welsh are oppressed… lets be revolting then… Bach

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    • 19
      Ned Ludd says:

      “it profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world… but for Wales?”
      “A Man for all Seasons”

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      • 21
        The Paragnostic says:

        Ever been to South Wales?

        There is only one season, and it’s wet.

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        • 92
          Bled White Taxpayer says:

          (To the tune of Men of Harlech)

          Men of Harlech, stop complaining
          Wales was built for troops to train in
          And it’s always f*cking raining
          Welsh girls have big tits

          etc etc for 4 more verses.

          Kept me amused anyway on those 6 hour Bedford “pretend Hercules” moves from the Shot to Sennybridge.

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          • Mark Skid says:

            Most amusing, old boy.
            I cannot find the other verses on t’internet, so if you could post whatever you remember here, I would be forever in your debt.

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        • 147
          Lord Lucan says:

          I wouldn’t shit on Wales

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      The Paragnostic says:

      There are plenty of lusher and more tempting lilies of the valleys than Imogen Thomas, though – Giggsy’s not looked very far, has he?

      If he was a Scottish footballer, we’d be surprised he scored at all…

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    • 46
      Just stating the obvious says:

      ‘Welsh’ isn’t a race.

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      • 55
        The Paragnostic says:

        Neither is Scottish, but they’re always moaning when I take the piss out of them.

        Welshness is more a state of mind – a cultural identity that is not English.

        We like to think that we are the last of the old Britons, and everyone else is an interloper. Cornish and Bretons are OK, but even the Scots are Irish arrivistes from a Welsh standpoint…

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        • 69

          More comforting digit pushing.

          Try using brain before typing gob.

          Quality not quantity.

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          • The Paragnostic says:

            I’ll take criticism on my output when I actually see a post of yours that isn’t just whiny bitching.

            Haven’t you anything to contribute on the matter in hand?

            Thought not – back to your piss-soaked bench again, failure,

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          • The Paragnostic says:
            May 21, 2011 at 1:09 am

            I’ll take criticism on my output when I actually see a post of yours that isn’t just whiny bitching.

            Haven’t you anything to contribute on the matter in hand?

            Thought not – back to your piss-soaked bench again, failure,

            Your post above is NOTHING BUT pathetic whiny bitching you fucking dullard.

            Carry on!

            I am enjoying this sport!

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          • Down_With_Pissin_'n_Moanin! says:

            Seriously Ding a Ling a Ding Dong … the way you p&m about everything without actually contributing anything intelligent … it is really getting on my wick. I can only assume from the way you p&m that you are the same gender as I am … and you are giving us all a bad name.

            May I recommend a gadget called the ‘Bullet’ – I believe a certain chain of ladies naughties and other finery sells them? I am hoping that the buzzing will rattle that one brain cell you appear to be sporting. And with a little luck it will also relieve some of that rage and aggravation you are spouting, and give the rest of us multi-celled specimens the chance to get some real discussion going.

            And FYI, I happen to think that many of the one-liners on here are PURE BLOODY GENIUS! Deal with it.

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  8. 12
    Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

    Go Giggsy – see how much money you can spend trying to keep your name out of “shagging Imogen Thomas” stories. And then sue me if they aren’t true.

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      Zeno says:

      I don’t know which I’m enjoying more: seeing Schillings trash their reputation, or Saggy Ring wasting all that money.

      By Saggy Ring I, of course, mean CTB; I am not trying to suggest that it is an anagram of anyone’s name.

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  9. 18
    Bazz says:

    At least it was not a Sheep… boyo

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    Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

    Having read this…

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1389282/Benefits-boulevard-Built-Romania–YOUR-money.html

    Can we just send these filthy gyppos home and let their own goverment support them.

    It’s just fuel for the BNP isn’t it?

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    • 60
      The Paragnostic says:

      Simple answer – if they’re not obviously British, don’t buy the Big Issue off them.

      I won’t – the one who hangs around in Aldershot looks subcontinental to me, so he gets nothing from me.

      Having said that, I’ll always get a homeless Brit a cup of tea and a sarnie if I have the time and the change…

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  11. 41
    Ned Ludd says:

    CBT is acting more like CeeBeebies

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    If you’re not based in the UK, you may have no idea what a “super-injunction” is. But if you’re a Brit, they’re apparently an occasional part of daily life—especially as of late. And now, an anonymous Twitter user is being sued for breaking a super-injunction issued by a British judge, but over who or what? Nobody knows for sure, and it’s because of the super-injunction.

    Talk of social media injunctions in the UK began earlier this month when a British judge attempted to protect the identity of a brain-damaged woman by ordering her name to stay off of Twitter and Facebook. The two sites were actually included in a list of “media” forbidden from publishing the information, according to the order seen by Reuters, despite the fact that both companies are US-based and the content they host is entirely user-generated.

    But that’s just a “regular” type of injunction—there’s also a concept called a super-injunction. While an injunction simply bars a specific aspect of the story from being discussed (in the previous example, a name), a super-injunction is “super” because it bars any element of the story from being discussed at all. So, if a celebrity has an affair with her poolboy’s dog and somehow manages to get a super-injunction from a judge, the mere discussion of any of it—the celebrity herself, the poolboy’s clothing that day, the breed of the dog, whether the celebrity had a relationship with the poolboy before moving onto the dog, etc.—is not allowed.

    In fact, celebrity cover-ups appear to be the primary reason for super-injunctions lately. Earlier this month, an anonymous Twitter user listed a number of actors, TV personalities, athletes, and other celebrities who allegedly obtained super-injunctions in order to keep details about their lives secret. According to the Financial Times, the High Court has handed out “at least 30″ of these super-injunctions to the rich and famous, though prime minister David Cameron is reportedly uneasy about the practice

    This is going to get me in Guidos bad books.

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    • 51
      Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

      Sorry Guido, But this subject intrests me a lot and makes me think, Good on ya.

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  13. 47
    John says:

    What would Jonathan Ross have say about it.

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    not a machine says:

    I think the Dark side of the farce ,is being a little scary , I tried to follow argument on NN and I cannot see what all the hubub is , so now they wanna put legal prosecution on someone who twitters/bloggs a name that may or may not be bound by a superinjunction ,citing they have no right to anonimty (as opposed to no right to say it) , “there will be people who could be going to pentonville” .

    I would have thought innocent until proven guilty is adequate legal address , any pre trial stuff can only be hearsay (as not proven in court) ergo reputations cannot be protected until a trial has occured . I mean what if you just typed a name by chance and ended up being prosecuted ,even though you didnt really know who it was .As pointed out legal team then have to reveal who injunction was for ,if they wish to prosecute whoever names them .

    I can see some instances of contempt of court as in criminal/jury cases , but given speed of the internet prosecuting everywhere the info goes , whilst slighlty possible would in reality mean big fish with money , besides as discovered with mod software it can be got round .

    eg Rainy Yesterday Again Never Go Into Google Games Stupidly.

    It is simple innocent until proven guilty , or courts become rather meaningless , respect legal process .

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    • 54
      Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

      You make a good point , but with laws and judges dictated by parliament to fix the numbers we will never have fair trails.

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      • 75
        not a machine says:

        I cannot see how any other way is viable in a world of instant mass communication , litigants will just have to live in the brave new world of hearing court of public opinion in non criminal (although I doubt even that will be scared in the end) ,emiited by people who are just using the media as they have nothing better to do on the bus home .wellcome the invention if endless inane mockery and its gift to mankinds onward struggle for perfection :)

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        • 80
          Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

          The freedom of speech also means the freedom to offend and the freedom to make a idoit of ones self :-)

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        • 125

          Precisely.

          which is why tptb elites wills shut it down.

          Plenty of s/w, much developed by china, already here to do that.

          Very son you will need to PAY for ‘purer’ content

          this has been top priority on all govt think tanks for 50 years

          the net can be collapsed in hours

          they have the endgame ready if need be

          meanwhile they will PUSH it the way they want it

          if that means muzzling of twirre, so be it

          same applies to all antisocial n/works

          right pratnostic??? bif thinker tat you are???

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          • The Paragnostic says:

            The software (and some pretty good hardware implementations) has been around for over a decade. I was involved in planning a Phorm-like system back in 2000, and only a concern for ethics stopped it being tried out.

            Implementing a shutdown of Twitter access from the whole of the UK would take a significant amount of work, and new kit at the network hubs, not to mention a serious amount of court time.

            A (virtually) total net shutdown could be done much more quickly, but only by physically turning off lots of equipment, and satellite links would be unaffected. This would only be likely under martial law.

            You overestimate the power of politicians and judges, and seem to think that shouting loudly will make others listen to your fantasies.

            Now calm down and take your Largactil.

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          • smoggie says:

            Wish he’d take his warfarin.

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    • 66
      The Paragnostic says:

      Here’s a challenge to the judges involved.

      I have repeatedly posted the names of people covered by these injunctions both here and elsewhere. I can be very easily tracked down by my email address – paragnostic[at]hotmail.com. Hotmail normally cooperates with law enforcement, so you can find me and serve papers if you like.

      I shall defend myself, and will refuse to accept any sanction that you may deal out.

      Come and have a go if you think you’re clever enough!

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    • 79

      It is very simple

      the elites GAVE is the net 50 years ago, give or take

      it was a calculated risk

      the risk was really a win win for them, as they can control the endgame

      so they beneffitted enormously drom the net, via wealth creation

      look at the banskter debacle last 2-3 years

      now

      a problem

      they want to reign it in

      china did it for the last 10 years

      now

      even china is playing with it

      ff to now

      things are getting TRICKY for the elites

      too much FOI is bad for them

      these super injunctions are just playtime

      the real meat is when YOU or I or that racist wanker pratagnostic get baged up or stating OUR views

      that is the way it is going

      twitter being given injunctions/similar by prats in the uk or anywhere else, we have a problem with

      FREE SPEECH

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      • 88
        The Paragnostic says:

        May I recommend a tin foil hat and a style book, Sir?

        Your habit of putting very small thoughts on a separate line is slightly irritating, as is your paranoia about these judicial dilettantes.

        If you ever have a big thought, could you please consider turning it into a paragraph, like adults do?

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        • 97

          As expected, you do not address anything I have said

          clueless

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        • 100

          Forgot to state the obvious, you have a problem with FREE SPEECH

          couldn’t make it up!

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          • The Paragnostic says:

            No – I have a problem bothering to try to comprehend an argument that is chunked into tiny pieces spread over many lines. I’ll try, anyway.

            The ‘elite’ didn’t give us the Internet – it came out of DARPA sponsored work to provide a tolerant network that would survive a widespread attack. The WWW came out of CERN – Tim Berners-Lee came up with the idea. Opening the internet up to non military or educational uses was good for the expansion of the web, not some gift of the elites (whoever you think they may be). They (if there is a ‘they’) cannot control the endgame without harmonising the legal systems between nations, which is never going to happen so long as nation-states exist.

            As to the banker debacle – that is down to stupid bankers who failed to assess risks properly, and stupider politicians who thought that deregulating a poorly understood system was a good idea.

            China, being a totalitarian state, will of course try to control what information their citizens can access – that is only to be expected. If you want some stuff to worry about, then look at Australia – a supposedly democratic and open society that is proposing internet censorship, or France, where selling various historical items is illegal and EBay has had to withdraw some auctions.

            Injunctions, and indeed any sanction, can only be effective if the law is applicable across borders.

            I fully expect the idiot politicians to attempt to control the internet, but the nature of the beast is such that ways around any control short of disconnection from the outside world will always be found.

            I’m fully in favour of free speech, and will continue to practise it until I am incarcerated.

            Does that answer your points?

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      • 112
        not a machine says:

        Well yes DLDD , Freedom of speech ,that is what is at stake .

        If we cannot have that , we cannot critcise those in power without fear , that was what was so astonishing about tonights pentonville remark , a lawyer dishing out sentence before any trial . He was perhaps threatening a leak , but as you outline same attitude only has to reach gov minister level and its police state .

        Have tried to track OldHolborns sudden exit , seems as though someone disagreed with somthing he said on israel (fellow libertarian) and posted his name address and pics of kids and missus , he then had a load of death threats and decided to put his family first . i am just puzzled how a fellow libertarian thought cyber terrorism is how you win argument . Will miss OH , I didnt agree with some of his stuff , but he did some excellent trashing of Labour spin and made some good comments on finance and not letting your elected people become your masters during the night . I would have been interested to know how post new BBC program he thought , 9pm this monday , if its as good as last series will be unmissable .

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        • 116

          Indeed.

          This is what all the legal HC manoueverings (sp – i can’t be bothered!) are about – this is all shaping up to a massive lockdown – wankers and idiotic blowhard know-nothings like gchq-proud salt of the earth-xxxx (i.e. idiot cricket bloke, idiot twat i have been sparring with, dozns of idiots – ALL DROWNING OUT the enormity of what is at stake) –

          as Frankie Howerd forewarned

          TWITTER YE NOT!!!

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          • The Paragnostic says:

            “drowning out”.

            I see what the problem is now – insufficient attention is given to your paranioa, so anyone posting an alternative view must automatically be an establishment shill or a sheep.

            By the way, putting your emphasis in capitals is generally considered rude and ignorant.

            Try <b>bold</b> or <i>italic</i> for emphasis – HTML was invented for a purpose, after all.

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          • ay 21, 2011 at 2:22 am

            “drowning out”.

            I see what the problem is now – insufficient attention is given to your paranioa, so anyone posting an alternative view must automatically be an establishment shill or a sheep.

            By the way, putting your emphasis in capitals is generally considered rude and ignorant.

            Try bold or italic for emphasis – HTML was invented for a purpose, after all.

            This thread is about consequences you thick-arse.

            You have not a fucking clue in the world, not a fucking clue.

            Carry on with your daily idiocy, you are a good barometer.

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          • The Paragnostic says:

            Really and truly, I want to know what it is I should be worried about – all I see from you is incoherent ranting and attempts to be clever, which don’t seem to come to fruition very often, if ever.

            As I said above, if you want to be worried about anything regarding the freedom of the internet, Australia and France are two good places to start – but the nature of the nation state is such that cross-border censorship will never be effective.

            Your bluster and shouty capitals mark you down as a nutter, and not a very bright one at that.

            Time for me to get my daily dose of Illuminati juice now – be seeing you, no doubt…

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          • The Paragnostic says:
            May 21, 2011 at 3:02 am

            Really and truly, I want to know what it is I should be worried about – all I see from you is incoherent ranting and attempts to be clever, which don’t seem to come to fruition very often, if ever.

            As I said above, if you want to be worried about anything regarding the freedom of the internet, Australia and France are two good places to start – but the nature of the nation state is such that cross-border censorship will never be effective.

            Your bluster and shouty capitals mark you down as a nutter, and not a very bright one at that.

            Time for me to get my daily dose of Illuminati juice now – be seeing you, no doubt…

            As I said – clueless, all you think about is me me me – NOT the big picture.

            Stick to your lamo ‘jokes’ – you seem to have a following here, hmmm, wonder why the GF blogs have gone downhill so much from 2 years ago…

            Could it be that morons are encouraged?

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  15. 59
    A Pensioner says:

    Giggsy: I always had him down as an iron hoof.

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  16. 63
    Let him live in fear of that late night knock on the door says:

    Anyone know where this arsehole Rod Christie-Miller lives?

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  17. 68
    Pointy finger says:

    If i were Giggsy, i’d demand my money back.
    Not from the woman, as she at least provided satisfaction.

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  18. 74
    Randy Savage says:

    Ouch!

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  19. 78

    Too many twits tempt a twat, as the PM almost said.

    How much of a coincidence is it that Imogen Thomas is an anagram of I’m Hot So Nag Me?

    http://cazzyjones.blogspot.com/2011/05/super-injunctions-ironic-imogen-anagram.html

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  20. 81
    Jay says:

    Well done, Guido.

    This will indeed open the floodgates. Freedom of expression should almost always trump a right of privacy.

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  21. 83
    Jay says:

    By the way, how much is he paid? 100 grand a week? Wouldn’t it have been easier to say: “Look, here’s a week wages, just shut up.” Instead, he’s spending a lot more than that on legal fees and is made to look an absolute twat.

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    • 85
      Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

      As with socailisim, Its always someones elses fault.

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    • 103

      Indeed.

      He never could cross with his right foot, cuts in EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME onto his left side

      and the “defenders” on 100k a week still let him do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      I’m in the wrong job…

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      • 139
        The Paragnostic says:

        Well, trade in your sandwich boards for a pair of boots and try it yourself then.

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        • 250

          Am I right?

          If you know anything about football you will know I’m right.

          As for sandwich boards, I have you running around like a headless chicken don’t I?

          GSM DLDD I think!

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  22. 101
    One thing about Giggs is that he hasn’t sought to profit from that image says:

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  23. 113
    Magpie says:

    Schilling wise Pounds foolish?

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  24. 119
    Mark Oaten says:

    I’ve got a super injunction in my boxers.

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  25. 120
    Aint I naughty? says:

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    • 124
      Schillings says:

      What’s your URL? We demand to know, anonymity is for our paying (and very nicely I may say) client’s only.
      We will shortly be serving a court order on you… Aint I naughty? V Anonymous.

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    • 144
      smoggie says:

      Hundred and ninety five squids to have a vibrator shoved up your arse by a slapper?!!

      Call me old fashioned but surely there’s better ways of spending that kind of dosh. Like hitting a few real ale pubs for a few hours and capping the night off with a bloody good Roghan Josh. Then you’ll find out what your backside is really for.

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      • 149
        Lurker says:

        195quid??? Why not 200?
        Did she give change? no tip?
        Or can he claim back the VAT?

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        • 153
          smoggie says:

          If he didn’t get the full whack there would be no come back.

          Like

          • Clyde Bank says:

            Who is Hugh Bonneville ?

            I thoght these super injunctions were supposed to be for the rich and famous

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          • smoggie says:

            A bit part actor. I remember him in Notting Hill but fuck all else.

            But soon he will be famous, and therefore rich. That superinjunction might prove to be a very astute investment on his part. Should soon be able to buy all the batteries he needs for his vibrator and loads of tarts to shove it up his arse.

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      • 190
        HappyUK says:

        +10.

        These celebs really don’t enjoy the finer things in life do they?

        Dildos, my arse!

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  26. 121
    Why don't the two of you fuck off and die? says:

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    • 132

      Deja Vu – seen it all before – they cannot ask awkward questions or tell him what a wanker he is.

      Like

      • 151
        Lurker says:

        That will be the other Soweto in Fife would it?
        I’m not that hung up about former PMs taking it easy when it comes to the day to day activity of constituency and parliamentary work but he really is is taking the piss now.
        No doubt the expenses claims will be right up there though

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    • 237
      Justine Credible says:

      Perhaps the kids could teach him some basic maths as well?

      Like

  27. 123

    Does the Media Control Your Mind?

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  28. 128
  29. 140
    Apocalypse Today says:

    But who is Ryan Giggs?

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    • 143
      The Paragnostic says:

      By 11pm tonight, it won’t matter, will it?

      The baby Jesus will return and rapture the righteous, which probably won’t include lawyers or politicians.

      I’m certainly not on the list – being an inbred racist as the Dolly Llama points out, I’m definitely infra dig so far as salvation’s concerned.

      Pity – I was looking forward to watching Barca humble the Salford lot…

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  30. 142
    smoggie says:

    Now they are advising Giggsy to sue Twitter FFS!

    Why? He’s no chance of winning and even if he did, why would he want the money? He’s hardly short of a bob or two as any little gold-digger can tell you. If his intention was to avoid any publicity then this action will have the opposite effect.

    You would almost thing his lawyers have their own best interests at heart, not that of their client’s. But that’s a bit cynical I suppose.

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  31. 145
    John Prescott says:

    I’m hungry.

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  32. 155
    The Logician says:

    The Schilling law firm, acting on behalf of a client, wants to know the name of the twitter user who posted information on someone having an affair with Imogen Thomas. The person named on Twitter having an affair with Imogen Thomas was Ryan Giggs. Therefore, Schillings law firm is acting on behalf of Ryan Giggs. Therefore, Ryan Giggs had an affair with Imogen Thomas.

    Can anyone see anything wrong with this logic? If not, can someone get in touch with poor Ryan and tell him to change law firms – the one he is currently using has just spilled the beans on his affair.

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    • 157
      Axe The Telly Tax says:

      Imagine the courtroom scene in Schilling vs Anonymous:

      “Calling Mr. Anonymous, is there a Mr. Anonymous in the court”

      One after another hundreds of people in guy fawkes masks stand up and shout “I’m Anonymous, No i’m anonymous”

      Hahahahahaha

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    • 204
      hmmmm says:

      Exactly – by hearing this case the judges themselves have fallen foul of their own order, as the hearing acknowledges that the said gentleman is indeed the one referred to as CTB.

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    • 212
      armchair lawyer says:

      It’s such a shame Giggs doesn’t have a superinjunction banning news about him having an affair with Imogen Thomas. If he did, he could sue Schilling’s for megabuck$ for making the affair public yesterday.

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  33. 158
    wikileaks says:

    After much discussion, wikipedia has decided to go public:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Giggs#Gagging_order

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  34. 161
    Cynic says:

    If one doesn’t want bad publicity one shouldn’t shag hookers

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  35. 162
    Cynic says:

    I disappointed. I woke up this morning and there was no lake of fire and no rapture.

    Like

    • 168
      premature exaltation says:

      It is at 6pm tonight you clutz.

      Like

    • 182
      Chris Huhne says:

      “After today’s day of reckoning, he said non-believers would suffer through hell on earth until October 21, when God would pull the plug on the planet once and for all. ”

      Excellent news!

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  36. 163
    Anonymostly says:

    The judiciary overreach themselves…Parliament is paramount in this country for the Lord Chief Justice to think that he can silence MPs and Lords from raising these matters in Parliament is hubris and he needs to be quickly told so by the Speakers of both the Commons and the Lords that the judiciary is seriously out of step with Parliament and the public

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    • 229
      dutchy in scotland says:

      The British people are constantly/consistently let down by the judiciary. They seem to believe that they actually matter in the ‘cyber devolved world’ that exists outside of the these islands. The world actually laughs at them because to use a word that Mark (my new hero) used ‘Canutism’ in this day and age is rather pathetic and lacks a worldly awareness. If the British people wanted to they could adopt the new ‘Spanish Practice’ ignore a stupid law that becomes unenforcable when too many people break it !!!

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  37. 166
    Joss Sayin says:

    That Hugh Bonneville chap looks like the idiot Prince of Hearts c’unt Paul Burrell.

    Like

  38. 170
    Mutiney on the Mirror says:

    Interesting. Kevin Maguire was just on Sky and very critical of Ed Miliband. He hasn’t got what it takes to be a leader. When he walks into a room it does not stop and just carries on. Surrounds himself with people who tell him what he wants to hear. Is out of touch. In 9 months has achieved fuck all. His brother David Has what it takes and it is possible for him to take over as leader.

    More than interesting an outright revolt from the Labour supporting Mirror

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    • 172
      Green Kevin says:

      I think there was more than a touch of jealousy displayed in that interview. Kevin was not pleased that Ed hardly ever if at all speaks to him and is always writing in the “Tory” press.

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  39. 173
    Chris Huhne says:

    Perhaps I should use the services of Schillings ?

    What do my fellow bloggers think ?

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    • 181
      Calm down, boyo... says:

      Try SpecSavers first.

      Like

    • 186
      A P Herbert says:

      Now you’re saying that you can’t remember what happened on the night in question. Is that because you got blitzed on the plane on the way back ?
      Oh, and there’s a link on the Telegraph site that says ‘Need a drink driving lawyer ?’. Er … no, I’d choose one who’s sober. You probably better off with Schillings. Go on, give us all a laugh.

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    • 220
      Handycock (Teen Fondler) says:

      I have spent a fortune on lawyer’s Chris, trying to keep my activities out of the Media, and none of it has worked. Every nefarious thing I do, or am in to, is publicised on this blasted blog. Even my fellow MP’s are leaking against me. Fawkes has a lot to answer for. Don’t waste your money on lawyers, go on holiday instead.

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      • 260
        All a twitter with the shilling shysters says:

        Mr Cock

        Life hasn’t been all bad.

        Recently the courts awarded you £15 compensation.

        Now if you had come to us we would have –

        1. Told you that prosecuting a man who had no money was equivalent to contempt of court (hence the £15 award).

        2. Told you to fuck off as you were too poor for good old British justice.

        3. Get a shave.

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    • 259
      All a twitter with the shilling shysters says:

      Chris

      You don’t find the likes of Schilling , they find you.

      If you aren’t wealthy or better still a wealthy moron you won’t be recieving an invite.

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  40. 176
    HappyUK says:

    Love the last comment on the Forbes site:

    “Scoring a goal for the free flow of conversation on the Internet.”

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  41. 178
    annon. (yran biggs) says:

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  42. 180
    Anonymous says:

    Don’t be too hard on the lawyers and judges. They see these not-very-bright-but-stinking-rich individuals lining-up to give them lots and lots of lovely dough. Who can blame them?

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  43. 183
    Chris Huhne says:

    This is absolutely true !!

    My girlfriend,Carina Trimingham, took delivery of her new Pearl Rabbit Deluxe dildo from Ann Summers in the post yesterday.

    “Oh, so I suppose I’m redundant now then?” I moaned.

    “Not at all” she smiled, “fuck off to the shops and get me some batteries you fat Hunt!”

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  44. 185
    bergen says:

    He’s being very badly advised.I assume he’s now told his wife.Everyone else seems to know his identity.He’s dragging out the story and making himself look a fool.His image will be far more damaged by this than any BB contestant’s kiss ‘n tell.

    Generally he seems a good sort who has done a lot of charity work.Up until now the story would be a seven day wonder and next week’s fish and chip wrappings but not after this.I fear that he’ll end up a laughing stock.

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  45. 188
    Concrete Pump says:

    So, Ryan Giggs is suing twitter. Can’t Imogen why?

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  46. 189
    annon. says:

    With extraordinary purity. LOL.

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  47. 191
    Man of the Guardianistas says:

    Memo to Red Ed. When planning your next re-launch speech do not time it to clash with major sporting events such as F1 qualifying. A Real man of the people would not make such a mistake.

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  48. 192
    Anonymous says:

    I work for the Government in Human Rights cases. It amazes me that in these sort of privacy injunctions only the Claimant’s solicitors are able to put across their argument. It further amazes me that Eady can say that there is every reason to disbelieve a person whom he has not heard evidence from and a firm such as Schillings who have a reputation for saying anything to get what they want for their clients. This is the same firm who said in another privacy case that the Claimant’s wife would kill herself if she found out about the C’s affair (not true), by Justice Eady swallowed it of course.

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    • 194

      “If that is justice, I’m a banana.” In fact, we all are.

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    • 215
      armchair lawyer says:

      I find it more amazing that Eady can say that there is every reason to disbelieve a person whom he has not heard evidence from, and yet will trust a person who by the very nature of the case is admitting lying to his wife and family.

      Duh!

      I can imagine his mind whirring.

      “This person has said nothing and so must be lying. This person (who has has paid a great deal of money) has lied to his wife and family, and so must be telling the truth.”

      Mind you, it is not true that this judge is not a man of the people. I heard from someone he has seen a lot of gigs recently.

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      • 241
        Lydia Dustbin says:

        I’d like to know whether Imogen Thomas has a legal right to challenge Judge Eady’s allegations and bring these to court.

        Legal input required please.

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        • 244
          confused says:

          not now the injunction has been granted & anyway she couldn’t afford it

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          • Lydia Dustbin says:

            So, under the protection of an injunction, a judge and, presumably other persons, could make allegations about a third party which are unproven and, potentially libellous. The third party has no recourse to law in order to challenge the allegations because the injunction prevents them from doing so.

            Is this correct? If so, what a scandal.

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    • 236
      Robo says:

      Eady is a tool of the stupid and idiotic wealthy elite…

      Anyone volunteering to insert a red-hot poker a la jacksie de Eady??

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  49. 196
    Charlotte Harris says:

    My client,Chris Huhne, has categically stated that he has not slept with Imogen Thomas

    Good Morning

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    • 209
      Lawyer to the Stars says:

      My client Ronnie Biggs is concerned he may be mistaken or confused as the well know footballer who has serious form as a serial shagger .

      Mr Biggs wishes it to be known he did not shag her but, would if he had a chance!

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  50. 200
    Hack says:

    Schillings was for ever sending warning letters, on behalf of one client or another, to the newspaper for which I worked, and very entertaining the newsroom found them when they popped up on the screen with a management warning to tread carefully. A high proportion of Schillings’s clients did seem to be absolute schits.

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  51. 201
    Infuriated of West Mids says:

    I think it’s time for the wonderful Baroness Boothroyd to get in front of the cameras a bit, cos that pathetic dwarf Bercow is going to do fuck all to tell the judges to piss off out of parliamentary affairs.

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  52. 202
    Can't be arsed says:

    Imogen Thomas is taking up a career in singing.She’s doing Giggs in Manchester

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  53. 203
    Dogsbreath says:

    The most amazing aspect in a Cyber Age is that there are still a few that actually believe throwing cash around (preferably at Lawyers) will keep their dishonesty secret (Wikileaks should have shown them thats all bollocks).

    The message is pretty clear “if you are in the “Public Eye” and are a charlatan you are putting yourself on offer”

    The thing that makes me laugh the most is the Judiciary floundering about like like King Canute up to its bloated neck in seawater, it is at a loss.

    If it looks like an Ass, Brays like an Ass……….

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  54. 214
    Imogen Thomas says:

    If I were Stacey Cooke, I would be toddling off down to my own solicitors about now.

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  55. 218
    Too Many Schillings says:

    Imogen Thomas is taking up a career in singing.She’s doing Giggs in Manchester.

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  56. 221
    Stephen Spielberg says:

    I think we should all call superinjunctions “Ryans” from now on, after my masterpiece Saving Privacy Ryan.

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    • 224
      Voice of Treason says:

      Is he playing Blackpool today – let’s hope the dishonest twat gets what he deserves.

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  57. 223
    Voice of Treason says:

    Now that the sexual pervert Max Mosley lost his case about requiring newspapers/media to first report their finding to courts before publishing, why don’t the media just publish any tasty findings before any of these fucking ludicrous ‘celebs’ have chance to obtain an injunction? If it’s true and already in the news it would then be too late to obtain an injunction.

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  58. 225
    blackdogstories says:

    A certain footballer’s name is mentioned on the Today programme, about 1:51 into the broadcast. This is utter lunacy. The law cannot be used to stop gossip, or even the reporting of gossip.

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    • 231
      Anonymous says:

      Using the law to stop the original gossip from getting out is bad enough and a complete abuse of what injunctions are supposed to be for, but using the law to criminalise people who are simply repeating gossip that they’ve seen, say, in a spanish newspaper, or have seen across 100million web pages, is even worse.
      It can’t stand.
      I hope that twitter will fight the request for information. The request basically says:
      “we order you to tell us who made this tweet…”
      The correct response from twitter should be:
      “oh, you mean the gossip which was already available for anyone on the planet to see on 100’s of millions of webpages and in every non-uk newspaper? yeah, right, you can fuck off you twats because we have no intention of living in an Orwellian nightmare where the rich can put ordinary people in jail for gossiping, especially if that gossip is the truth.”

      They’re trying to equate gossip with paedos at the moment; saying that anyone who gossips about the injunctions should be treated in the same way as a paedo.

      It’s absolutely obscene, and I hope Cameron steps in and stops the whole thing.

      It’s a total abuse of the law and of basic human rights.

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      • 239
        Woman on a Raft says:

        I loved the way Schillings claimed to have a good relationship with the American Government. I can just see the American government snapping to attention and doing favours for the firm which kept Roman Polanski out of their hands.

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        • 248
          Total and utter bilge says:

          If Schillings think that they have good enough relations for the Obama Administration to try and overturn the American Constitution then they really are deluded…..especially since “Twitter” is based in the USA…the US Supreme Court is not going to take any notice of what the High Court in the UK say about privacy..or the Human rights Act…it’s total lunacy even for them to think they have any chance of getting this to stand…it’ll take a US judge about 30 seconds to throw out the application ..it’s an attempt to attack the fundamentals of Free Speech enshrined in the US Constitution

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  59. 232
    A Pregnant Goldfish says:

    Ellie Taylor remember her?
    Remember the name of the sportsmen she slept with and sold the names to various papers?

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  60. 233
    the moneyshot says:

    shes absolutely gorgeous

    id SHOUT FROM THE ROOFTOPS WERE AN ITEM

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  61. 234
    Anonymous says:

    1) No injunction:
    Newspapers run a story in the uk press for a few days, about 1million people read/hear about it, about 100,000 people remember it 5 minutes after reading about it, about 1,000 people gossip about it for a few days, within a week nobody remembers it even happened because there are more important things in life and you simply forget this kind of stuff after a few days in that instance.

    2) Get an injunction:
    Arouse everybody’s intense curiosity, everyone in their “industry” becomes a target for gossip (“is it him…or maybe him…”) by everyone on the planet, their name gets put in the frame on millions of websites and newspapers across the world, almost everyone on the planet knows what they allegedly did, and most of those people will remember it for a very very long time because the original curiosity “tease” and the subsequent “discovery” burns it into memory forever and because people knew that purely by gossiping about something they read in a newspaper, that person could have put you in jail. Their name then becomes ruined because they’ve effectively threatened ordinary people with prison for gossiping about something they (allegedly) did once.

    How fucking stupid and arrogant are these people?

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  62. 235
    Lydia Dustbin says:

    His wife knows
    His employer knows
    His team mates know
    Everybody in the media knows
    Hundreds of thousands of web sites have exposed his name
    Countless numbers of Tweeters and bloggers have exposed him
    Non-UK media are naming him
    The Today programme virtually outs him
    His identity is well and truly in the public domain
    He’s served a court order on Twittter which force him to reveal his identity in California and…

    …he and his advisors keep digging. What a bunch of idiots.

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    • 253
      Voice of Treason says:

      It’s a real Gigggle but I can’t Imogen why.

      Like

    • 261
      I hate Blue Labour says:

      Being good at football clearly doesn’t indicate a high level of intelligence.

      Can’t blame the lawyers for fleecing these loaded simpletons though.

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  63. 243
    confused says:

    Wasn’t it Schillings who threatened an MP not to say anything in the HoC & Why wasn’t the lawyer in question arrested by the Sergeant at Arms brought to the bar of the HoC charged (& convicted) with contempt ??

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  64. 246
    Juppie says:

    I couldn’t give a toss about the goings on of overpaid celebs, unless they come on preaching about how whiter than fucking white they are. I do agree with the sentiments expressed that threats issued to tweeters et al are out of all proportion to the original actions they’re looking to obscure. Indeed, any rational, disinterested observer would conclude “fuck ‘em. let’s have it all” in response. There IS a case for privacy but the lengths gone to by CBT or whatever his alias is… are ludicrous, self-defeating and contrary to the norms in a free society. What a tosser he must be, whoever he is. I’ve no doubt that his name will reliably leak then we can all freely see what a berk he looks.

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  65. 252
    Kered Ybretsae says:

    Does it really matter about which celeb is shagging around? Of course not. But now, with all these idiotic injunctions and who is hiding behind them and why, this is now a battlefield. Of course as in this case, someone gets hit by friendly fire from his bewigged advisers and his name is out there. Globally readable in the free press and on the unfettered web.

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  66. 254
    Voice of Treason says:

    Before his lawyers satrted action against Twitter only a few thousand probably knew his name or were really bothered. Since Schillings started their action it’s now running into millions of people who now know his name. Well done Schillings you stupid corporate twats – you’ve ensured this footballer is now well and truly fucked!

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  67. 255
    Candyman says:

    Here’s an issue:

    If there is a truth out there and it becomes subject to a super-injunction, then how is any media outlet that happens to find out about that truth supposed to know that it is subject to the super-injunction? Isn’t the point of the super-injunction that neither the truth nor the existence of the super-injunction are known about?

    Isn’t it likely at some future time that some media outlet will publish a story about some true event that is subject to a super-injunction, but the media outlet won’t know about the super-injunction?

    Or am I missing the point about these super-injunctions? Are the major media outlets told by some party that they can’t talk about certain stories, even if the party doesn’t mention that there is a super-injunction? Or does that party actually tell he major media outlets that there is a super-injunction, but that it can’t be made public?

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  68. 257
    Imogenation says:

    You’ve got to laugh at that bearded twat from Schillings. It’s all becoming a real giggle.

    Like


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