A Goodwin All Round
Lord Oakeshott, through a proxy, said in the House of Lords earlier:
“Would [the speaker] accept that every taxpayer has a direct public interest in the events leading up to the collapse of the Royal Bank of Scotland? So how can it be right for a superinjunction to hide the alleged relationship between Sir Fred Goodwin and a senior colleague? If true it would be a serious breach of corporate governance and not even the Financial Services Authority would know about it.”
In March Guido told you about it, but had to adhere slightly to the courts. Sorry if you couldn’t quite work it out:
“So there was this ****** bloke who worked closely with another ****** colleague, they apparently began an adulterous affair not long after the ****ing crisis of 2008. He went to Court to stop it getting out that he had been banging her. Because he is the most notorious ****** of his generation he also banned references to his profession lest he be identified.”
Well that went well for Fred didn’t it? Worth every penny…
Parliament does have its uses then.
Consider a Super injunction to be a Gag of Honour for the rich.
Just as an ASBO is a badge of honour for the poor.
Why is an (alleged) affair between colleagues a “…a serious breach of corporate governance…”?
Under RBS’s code of conduct, staff are expected to tell management of any relationships which pose a potential conflict of interest
But what is the potential conflict of interest? An affair between colleagues doesn’t automatically create one.
There must have been one – why else take out a Sue Perrin-Junsham
I think he was banking a man.
No but “potentially”it could that’s why it’s worded that way.This appears to be a breach of the code of conduct. What sanctions can they impose? What about his Pension?
Not inconceivable that it could have been someone not unconnected with RBS finance director Guy Whittaker, who, when asked about the year-end core tier one capital ratio, said “It does begin with a four”.
My long shot, however, would be the fragrant (“no Permanent Secretary could stand her”) Baroness Shitti Vadera, on the basis of the story here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/8364907/RBS-crisis-FSA-wasnt-worried-as-the-storm-approached.html. And don’t forget Wackypaedia.
Max Farquar has an interesting post nominating his:
RBS Employee Of The Day
…where he wonders idly whether or not his selection, Mrs. Susan Bor (sometime Group Resourcing Director), “ever met Sir Fred Goodwin during his spell as Chief Executive at RBS. No particular reason. Just being nosy”.
Max’s choice of RBS Employee Of The Day sounds an excellent choice
Indeed. Therein lies a mystery. Lord Oakeshott (and Guido) knows the ID of the senior colleague and the answer to your question. This has the potential to be dynamite and put Sir Fred in the dock.
Was it a government minister? It seems not to be an RBS employee…..?
Cooper-Balls?
Yvette Balls was Chief Secretary to the Treasury.
Gordon Brown?
Oh please let it be true………
In the dock? Wehere he belongs!
I initially read: “the ****ing crisis of 2008.” to read as “the fucking crisis of 2008.”
But then, when I think about it, it means the same thing.
Margaret Beckett?
Why don’t they tell the name.
Search the Web for “prominent banker, oops, Fred Goodwin”.
Because one might help other to thieve, cover up, etc.
They might. But so might colleagues who weren’t having an affair. It happens all the time.
There’s more to this than even Oakeshott is letting on.
There is more chance, when they are into each other, plus black mail.
I suppose it’s to banal to suggest that this latest ‘outing’ of Fred Goodwin is just another bout of ‘banker bashing’ to distract from some new fuckwittery?
Quite possibly.
The BBBC will then allow some has-been Liebour spokesperson to reinforce the delusion.
For banker read RAPIST (witness IMF).
Send them all down for a year and a half if they confess.
Done worry Guido Fred fucking Goodwin is well used to wasting money. Useless incompetent charlatan
Who are you shagging Taxpayer?
He wasn’t banging a man.
I should know.
So they did it on the office shredder rather than the photocopier?
Was he banking a man or a women?
“He went to Court to stop it getting out that he had been banging her. ” Presumably answers the question.
No really this is what Guido says. A man like Fred would like to boast how many women he had, so it should be a man or transse*ual.
Gordon
knobbedknighted me for services to banking, not bonking.At least this is what I think, I could be wrong.
In March 2009 Lord Myners revealed that part of the reason Goodwin’s pension was so large was that RBS treated him as having joined the pension scheme from age 20 (instead of 40, when he actually joined) and ignored contributions to his pension from previous employment.
Does this shed any new light on that little incident where someone put his windows in at his home in Edinburgh hmmmm ?
Atischoo!
“Parliament does have its uses then.”
No need to go over the top Billy. Let’s just say that there are some days when it does less damage than others.
+1
(Billy reminds me of a yapper-type dog.)
Guardian reporting super whatsit lifted by High Couirt
hes used to wasting money.
“Worth every penny” not quite how I would describe Fred or anything to do with him.
Knighthood for services to the banking industry. Good grief.
As far as I can see, the only thing worse would be to let McSnot take up the now vacant situation in the IMF.
The BBC are working on getting their buddy Gordon the top job.
The US and UK treasury are against him. He has no chance.
But, it’s fun to see him dance to an ultimate humiliation.
Aye. Obama hates Brown. He (Obama) does have some redeeming qualities.
Anders Borg on Sky last night was in no doubt that Crash would be the wrong man for the job.
In so many words he blamed Crash for the destruction of the UK economy.
Crazy name, sensible guy. (I am keeping any lame Star Trek-related witticisms to myself.)
In total agreement, the lying, two faced nokia throwing bstd needs serious humiliation.
Gordon Brown should get the job at the IMF. Within a year the Euro will be finished and Europeans will be back where they were in 1945 flogging their daughters for a couple of woodbines.
At 2000+ to the Renmimbi, the Pound Sterling will be the strongest currency in, er, Britain.
Terrifyingly plausible. By then the USA will be in no position to pressure the Chinese to devalue the RMB, either. Plenty of fun for the currency traders on the way there, though.
How about Ken Clarke for the job?
Dave wants shot of him..
He used to be chancellor. And, unlike Gordon, a successful one.
And he doesn’t seem too worried about rape.
He seems perfect to take Strauss-Khan’s place.
Don’t you have to be a socialist? Oh hang on a minute
Are you suggesting that he would be ideal to take Strauss Kahn’s place at the IMF due to his financial acumen or are you suggesting he would be ideal to take Strauss-Kahn’s place at Rikers Island because of his relaxed attitude to rape.
Now he’s resigned DSK’s biggest decision is whether to join the Aryan Brotherhood, La Eme or the United Blood Nation
DSK would not be allowed into the Aryan Brotherhood – he is definitely NOT Aryan, but Semitic.
What is wrong with lobbying for a Briton to take the top job at the IMF?
There are 65 million others more qualified
Anyone but Gorgon!
My 3 year old nephew with Autism is immensely more qualified than El Gordo in many things including finances I bet!
El Gordo? La Gorda surely or even La Terremota.
I’d say the Fat One suits him more, probably with Stupido in between!
missed the e in front, sorry.
Sure we could have Mandelson, at least the chambermaids would be safe, not the bell boy’s though.
Forget RBS, Cameron wants to kill half the plant life in the World. Not since Heath has so much sand been seen between such distinguished ears.
….or the boy’s bells!
I am searching The Book of Revelation to ascertain if there are any prophecies pertaining to Brown becoming head of the IMF.
“From the depths of hell shall spew forth the Gordon, a diabolical creature of the Evil one. For it is foreseen, that the Gordon will lead the moneylenders and cause much ruin upon the lands. Gold will disappear, money will become worthless. The Gordon will bring curses and ruin upon all. ”
Revelations, 13. 5
And the ‘bint’ of the year remains ‘laid back’ about this? :. Was this a joint S/injunction?
Who could get in trouble for leaking this? Lord Oakeshott, or the proxy?
Neither. It’s covered by parliamentary privelage.
Why did Oakeshott use a proxy then?
No idea. But they’re both covered, anyway.
The Speaker would have stopped him (the proxy) if he was out of order or breaking the injunction.
So any superinjunction can be mentioned and details released in parliament then?
Theoretically, yes. The Labour M.P. (forget his name) would have named them all if allowed.
However, the Speaker (in both chambers) doesn’t want that for some spurious reasons – credibility of the courts, dignity of parliament, etc.
But the principle is clear – the super injunctions have no power in parliament.
If not stopped by the speaker, they can mention what they like in parliament. And, so long as there is press / tv in the chamber, the press can report whatever is said whatever hush-up injunction may have existed.
The question is – is the colleague male or female?
Just a shame that the “every penny” referred to came out of the pockets of the hard-working taxpayers who funded his severance pay and pension
At least we can take some comfort in knowing that he has lost half his pension. Not surprising. He was in charge of it.
The Royal Bank of Scotland’s code of conduct recommends that staff inform management about any relationships which pose a potential conflict of interest. It is not known whether Sir Fred revealed details about the alleged relationship to the board.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/8523323/Sir-Fred-Goodwin-obtained-injunction-to-hide-alleged-affair-with-senior-colleague.html
So much for corporate governance.
But, her blog is 80% fiction, isn’t it?
Lets face it , those north of the border have been screwing thos in south for decades.
300 years.
Time flies even when you’re not having fun
I knew he was a wrong – un. Luckily I didn’t Knight him.
How’s the job hunting going?
Any replies yet?
CAB, ICI, ITT, BSB, RAC, IBM, ABM, NEC, BAA, LTA, WWF, ABC, DAF, DEF, BRM I’m sure will all get back to me.
Try the DWP they might be able to get you a job commensurate with your skills and/or abilities. Municipal Sh*t Shoveller should be right up your street.
Did someone say “wrong-un”?
At last these are being forced into the open. Wonder when we’ll be able to find out properly about Purcell and Glasgow Council
Guido,
I thought you were talking about fuckers, not bankers!
Yawn Yawn Yawn
Should be more concerned about your lovely Govenment Guido
Clegg irreversibly damaged
Vague irreversibly damaged
Gove irreversibly damaged
Lansley irreversibly damaged
Law irreversibly damaged
Huhne irreversibly damaged
Waris just damaged
Was this a withdrawal or deposit account? Early withdrawals often lead to a loss of interest.
No coHunes is taking out an injunction to prevent more print about points transfer
Bit slow lads … Penny is also a womans name …
Penny Red?
I suppose any port in a storm, plus she does plead poverty so she could do a bit on the side.
Totally off point but it seems Guido’s influence is spreading
http://blogs.elpais.com/trending-topics/
One wonders how many points he has on his licence. Just a thought.
Penny Hughes was after Fred’s time. Try Ellen _______
Ms Degeneres would be more suitable for companionship with Mr Huhne, I feel.
http://www.forbes.com/lists/2009/11/power-women-09_Ellen-Alemany_JL7X.html
An interesting article – mentions how “Sir” Fred wooed Ellen Alemany as head of the RBS Americas division.
Ellen Alemany was a key appointment made by Royal Bank of Scotland’s former chief executive Sir Fred Goodwin before he was forced out in October 2008.
Alemany – who has now emerged as the highest-paid RBS banker
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/mar/17/rbs-top-five-paid-twenty-million
Oooh, get ‘er:
http://blog.dorries.org/id-1831-2011_5_Andrew_Neil_and_Rats.aspx
Don’t think she’ll be on the sofa anytime soon.
The mad woman calls other people ‘poorly informed’? Ha ha ha
you aint seen me -right
Why is Gordon telling anyone who will listen that a great world financial disaster is a coming?
He didn’t spot the last one.
Well he wrote about the last one, perhaps he’ll write the sequel? Let’s hope he doesn’t want to do a trilogy!
Surprise, surprise, the Socialist Broadcasting Corporation got their facts wrong
Average length of sentence for rape is closer to 8 years, rather than 5
http://fullfact.org/factchecks/ken_clarke_average_rape_prison_sentence_length-2716
Well i’ll go to our back door. Vera Baird QC, ex Labour MP and the former Solicitor General for England and Wales has just been on Boulton saying that Clarke was lying and the average sentence for rape IS five years. Of course Boulton accepted her figures.
I hope Ken Comes out fighting tonight.
He won’t get a word in edge ways on QT. Cycling on ITV4
oh please… the damage is already done…apologist
I read stuff like that yesterday. 5 years is indeed the starting point when there are no aggravating factors. (and such cases could end up as 15 months).
One would hope an experienced Secretary of State for Justice could point something like that out without mucking things up entirely.
He was on the BBC – you only get shouted at, you can’t make a valid point
He had plenty of time to explain himself yesterday. he ballsed it up himself.
He was ganged up on by a bunch of leftie dykes at Radio 5. Serves the Tories right, they should scrap the TV tax right now.
The moral of the story is when you go on a radio phone in to talk about plea bargains and the lefty female presenter turns it into a phone in on rape, make your excuses and leave. Or you are certain to have to speak to a tearful rape victim who was dragged through the courts for over a year (which is impossible anyway) and whatever you say will not be acceptable.
I’ve looked up the transcript and BBC got most of their facts right – they used the word “average” once. If you look into the detail of that, its actually worse for ken.
And Ken got at least three things wrong, one of which being inventing on the spot how rape figures were arrived at.
If Goodwin gets divorced he’ll have to make Alemany payments
So do we have to call him Fred the Shag from now on?
Fred the Bed.
Fred the Bred.
That vile little bookkeeper, who once masqueraded as a banker without even the most basic qualifications to call himself such, shall in future, and for all time, be known in polite society as, Spread the Bed.
People ask what is the big deal in corporate governance terms about an alleged relationship. At Board level, it is rather more serious than the “common or garden” office fling. For example, what if the senior colleague was on the Remuneration Committee, deciding how big your bonus should be? Or the Audit Committee, checking your accounts?
Or even the head of corporate risk … You really have to laugh …
Possibly. But bonuses and expense accounts shouldn’t be authorised by a single person, anyway.
Plus, I just feel that something more serious is being suggested. Almost that the banking crisis/rescue itself was potentially compromised.
Anyway, a coquettishly suggestive quote from Balls-Cooper on Goodwin:
“If she were to find herself sitting next to Sir Fred Goodwin at a dinner party tonight, I ask, what would she want to say to him? She laughs uncomfortably. “You know, I think … look, I don’t really know him. I met him a couple of times at meetings.”"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/apr/06/yvette-cooper-g2-interview
Forget RBS, Cameron wants to kill half the plant life in the World. Not since Heath has so much sand been seen between such distinguished ears.
Lovely Bread
We love GM, make Monsanto rich! Screw the people!
the portugese trans on big brother/portugal defaults on euro—then they walk into the sunset together
would be icing on the cake
You are not allowed to even reveal the existence of the superinjunction, and as I’ve never received one, if I set up a website naming names, how could I be in breach of a superinjunction that I never knew existed?
Perhaps it would be safer to upload them all to wikipedia to ensure that none are breached?
It’d probably be redacted there within minutes (if not seconds). Maybe Wikileaks would be a more stable home?
Being up on a charge of ‘not being party to knowledge of which you were unaware’ would be novel in the history of our legal system, wouldn’t it? You make a good point on the ‘Alice in Wonderland’ world in which we find ourselves now.
Homosexual looking male beeboid on BBC News just asked evil Tory why Gordon Brown can’t be in charge of the IMF…… so it begins, all the forces of the evil BBC will now be spinning that Gordon is the man for the job.
He should have answered because he is a lying despicable useless Financially incompetent bullying c unt !
And he is a history teacher not an economist.
NOW you tell us !!!
Malcom Webster Murdering Hunt come on down
I gave him a knighthood for services to bonking
Who to waterboard, Fred the shred or Gordon………
A FEW OF MY FANS GIVE ME A HEARTWARMING WELCOME…
I was there at Arromanches-les-Bains and he did indeed get jeered,cat-called and booed….the veterans were really appreciative of his presence…”Les Frogs” were mystified that we Brits did not seem to wish to chear our Prime Minister
Because all of theirs are worse. And get away with it for years and years.
I was there to visit Obama Beach. By the way, I was the Scottish Prime Minister. England was just Liebour’s milch cow.
The Scottish Prime Minister who was elected by the party that won three general elections in a row with a majority of (Labour) MPs in England, elected by English voters, every time.
Yep the BBc just said again that Gordon Brown is in the frame for the job. No he isn’t but the BBC want him to be.
Wouldn’t Fred the Shred be an absolute shoo-in to be Strauss-Kahn’s replacement ??
Its Liebour spin. He’s not in the running, as B£air wasn’t really in the running for the EUSSR presidency. Just associating him with such a top prestigious role is an attempt to reforming his reputation. Didn’t work for B£air, so I doubt it will work for McRuin
It really is time that the BBC stopped pandering to the vanity of past Prime Ministers and read the memo notifying them of the result of the last General Election. Their function is, as it has been since its inception, to be the official mouthpiece of the government of the day.
Glorified and overpaid town criers, the lot of them.
The British Prime Minister/Chancellor can veto any such approach to Brown by IMF and they have already said they will as they deem the man that allegedly was responsible for almost bankrupting Britain totally unsuitable to be allowed anywhere near the World’s Economy
Oh bollocks !!
What is Chris Huhne up to now ?
“Chris Huhne” goes viral ……………
What would happen if a newspaper reporting Melchester Rovers always blanked out the names of Roy Race and Bomber Reeves because there were super injunctions involving these players.
Or someone discussing a Melchester Rovers match on radio or TV asked (on microphone) if it was OK to mention Roy Race’s name on the air?
(Any resemblance of the team or players’ names to any living or dead team or player is purely coincidental)
Come on Barcelona put this diving bad boy in his place!
If anyone breaches my injunction, I will take legal action. Oh no I won’t, I forgot it ran out and I had to pay costs and damages. Anyway, here we go again, back in Court for the appeal in September.
I think it is scandalous that members of either house would use parliamentary priviledge to expose the private lives of prominent members of the public.
I was NOT snorting coke of Jacqui Smith’s ample arse while doing Harriet Harman from behind while she fellated a premiership footballer
Did some footballer get a superinjunction?
Ggggggiiiiiiiiggggggggggssssssssss? Dunno mate.
And I owe you a thank you, Guido.
As a result of your info, when I recently wrote to NatWest challenging some of my charges, I pointed out that if I was a corrupt banker, shagging someone called ***** ***, who holds the position of ***** ********** ******** I wouldn’t be treated so unfairly.
NatWest re paid all my charges within days
Thank you!
Was the Goodwin superinjunction under English law? That might explain why this blogger based in Northern Ireland feels comfortable disclosing the name afterwatt.blogspot.com
Max Farquar has an interesting post nominating his:
RBS Employee Of The Day
…where he wonders idly whether or not his selection, Mrs. Susan Bor (sometime Group Resourcing Director), “ever met Sir Fred Goodwin during his spell as Chief Executive at RBS. No particular reason. Just being nosy”.
Max’s pick of RBS Employee Of The Day sounds an excellent choice
The Daily Mail’s Ephraim Hardcastle column asks:
“Why’s the Royal Bank of Scotland’s perky ‘Group Resourcing Director’, Susan Bor, such a focus of curiosity online?
A YouTube video of her discussing mundane business matters attracted heavy traffic before it was removed this week.
It’s not as if Susan is a really famous RBS executive!?!”
I’ve no idea why either – maybe it’s because she’s a pretty lady, though I believe she may be married.
Good news, but when will the media talk honestly about the injunctions obtained by the McCanns – and now lifted.
http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2011/05/seized-books-goncalo-amaral-denounces.html
Lord Oakeshott, through a proxy, said in the House of Lords earlier:
“So how can it be right for a superinjunction to hide the alleged relationship between Sir Fred Goodwin and a senior colleague? If true it would be a serious breach of corporate governance and not even the Financial Services Authority would know about it.”
The only people that can be ‘senior colleague(s)’ to a CEO would be the Board Chairman and Independent non-Executive directors. I don’t need to be a rocket scientist to work out the rest.