May 12th, 2011

Gordon Goes To Vegas
Plus: The Mad v RAD

Without a hint of irony Gordon is speaking today in Las Vagas to a convention of hedge fund investors. The Salt Conference is one of the largest gatherings in the world of investors, speculators and wealth creators. No doubt he will regale them with tales of how he saved the world from their evil destruction, lecture them about how they are all to blame for the financial crisis, and were it not for him, it would have been armageddon. Or will he just take the nice fat appearance fee, drone on about his book, and run the profit through his limited company to avoid paying the chokingly high income taxes his government forced on the country.

Meanwhile the people of Kirkcaldy still go unrepresented in Parliament. What good is Gordon doing for them in Vegas?  Guido pities anyone in the casinos, it’s going to be big wins for the house tonight with Jonah in town. 

However, there is something you can do to show Gordon, Labour and the rest of the deficit denying, head-in-the-sand, carry on spending brigade that enough is enough. That is to give the Rally Against the Debt an hour of your time on Saturday morning  in Westminster. Guido will be taking to the soapbox and wants to see as many co-conspirators there as possible…


215 Comments

  1. 1
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    I thought Labour hated bankers ahedge funds?

    • 2
      Tax Payer says:

      Depends how big the fee is. Ask Tony.

      • 14

        Meanwhile, debt ridden Greece is going to borrow money from us to build a Formula One racetrack. Really

        http://www.planetf1.com/driver/3213/6928069/Greece-vying-for-a-place-on-the-calendar

        • 30
          The Paragnostic says:

          They’ll borrow all that cash to build a “Gyro”, and it’ll turn out to be a huge kebab shop – just you wait and see!

          • David Laws Lib Dem fiddler says:

            Blair was a consultant for JP Morgan, what banking skills or knowledge does he have?? His son Euan got a job there as well- is this part of the no more old boy network??

            Blair needs to be charged, prosecuted and jailed. Hundreds of thousands of people died unnecessarily for his vanity and greed.

            D Miliband, Brown, Blair all evading income tax by creating limited companies. UK politicians more corrupt than those in the middle east.

            McClegg lies without shame, no wonder Laws and Co will follow; Ashdown defending Laws- he is guilty of a £55,569 fiddle. Laws keeps saying he did not intend to personally gain- correct- but his boyfriend substantially did- weasel words Laws. Paying back money does not mitigate your offence, if we had the system all over the UK no thief would go to jail. A good cut that would be endorsed by the public I suggest.

            In any other walk of life Laws would be sacked and prosecuted, as would those who did nothing or tried to cover it up. Nolan standards in public life should equally apply to politicians, they imposed it on other public sector workers.

          • bastards says:

            + 1

            Excellent summary.

          • Anonymous says:

            David Laws Lib Dem fiddler says:

            At the moment we have a conservative PM in office, he is called Cameron; what is he doing about these things?

            Why haven’t you said about what conservatives got up to?

          • The Paragnostic says:

            I’ve just read Laws’ statement – he’s even lying in his apology!

            His claims for gas/electric/water/council tax etc. went from up to £900 per month down to £37 per month after the requirement for receipts for amounts over £250 was introduced.

            The man was taking as much as he could out of the system, and still tries to say that he was ‘saving the taxpayer money’.

            Fucking liar, fucking thief.

            Why Plod has not intervened is a question that only the omniscient can answer, but the whole thing stinks.

        • 33
          Tough on Crime : Tough on the Causes of Crime says:

          Utterly bonkers but what else do you expect?

          Revolution now!

          Wankers!

          • Iloathlefties says:

            Why can’t there be rules so that Brown can be sacked as he doesn’t attend Parliament but is clearly on the make. Change the rules so he can be sacked Clegg!! Laws is just a common thief!!

        • 134
          Hatchet Job Needed says:

          what hedge fund worth a light would want to pay to listen to Gordon…fucking moron needs taking into the middle of the nevada desert and showing the way to roswell…with a stroke of the blessed above perhaps the aliens would take him…unfortunately they would probably send the twat back when hes bored ‘em rigid for a day or two.

    • 18
      Pac-Man says:

      Gordon Brown has minced donkey cock for brains

    • 37
      Where's our feckin' gold ? says:

      Hopefully he’ll come clean and impress them with how he sold our gold reserves at $365 and how today it is a gnats bollock below $1500 ! Yeah, pure freeking financial Genius !

      • 55
        Southern Softy says:

        And, of course, no longer available as collateral.

      • 61
        sockpuppet #4 says:

        He might get a massive round of applause for doing that.

        Or at least a couple of fellows at the back doing the “high five” to each other.

      • 111
        Gordon ( SoldGoldAtThe ) BottomBrown says:

        I think it was $ 265 an ounce. Mind you, I was never any good at sums.

        I bet some of these hedgies bought that Gold on the cheap. JPMorgan too, I expect….

        • 123
          Archer Karcher says:

          It was a mark of true economic genius to announce the gold sale weeks before the deed, thereby maximising the potential profit for his banking and investment cronies, thus minimising any benefit for the taxpaying public, who actually owned all the gold in the first place.
          Ah the blessings of the socialist mindset, It’s in his DNA don’t you know?

      • 164
        Goldfinger, Hedge Fund Manager says:

        Gordon Brown is a financial genius, I should know I bought the gold off him. I had to pay him a commission though, as did others. Gordon is now pretty well set up for life.

    • 62
      alan philip bonggg says:

      Limited Company avoiding taxes? Sttill higher corporation tax far small companies thanks to Gordon, it is now coming down but not to the levels before the the last government.

  2. 3
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Re : Rally against Debt

    I do hope you take the Guy News team along, I hope to make it there so will look forward to seeing you as many people as possible, Please remember that this has to be a P*aceful protest as we want to show up the looney and violent left for what they are.

    Are the rumours that Guido is going to annouce the winners of recent caption contests true? I hope so :-)

    • 7

      See you there Guido. I’m in full dress, so any gobshites who have fancied punching me only need look out for a small chubby man in shorts and sandals with Tippex in his hair.

      • 64
        Vladikavkaz says:

        Should be there also, though am stuck for a witty placard.

        • 99
          sockpuppet #4 says:

          Billy could make a few suggestions if you promise a prize.

          • Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

            Depends on the “prize” :-)

          • Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

            Wait a minute, He said witty not shitty.

          • Aunt Hilda says:

            I shall be there Guido…just look for the old lady standing a bit funny and looking damp below…that’ll be my carer…we’re looking forward to a day labour bashing…can I borrow your soapbox if the urge takes me..he promised to come…but you know what these politicos are like on the day.

          • Vladikavkaz says:

            OK, winner gets a half drunk bottle of rum.

            Winner to be announced sometime in June. Year to be decided.

    • 16
      SKID@MARK says:

      What makes you think you won it
      your captions are usually shite ?

      • 23
        Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

        As are your cartoons.

        Ps I will NEVER win the caption contest, I would just like to know who did win.

        • 35
          Anonymous says:

          Say Bill, why not peruse all he comments then on Monday publish on this blog which one you think is best but do not include yourself, give it a miss this friday, souldb be fun.

          • Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

            Nah , If my captions are shit , i got no hope of picking a funny one.

  3. 4
    Hugh Janus says:

    He’s been let out for the day. They obviously don’t realise that he is barking mad.

    I’m trying to think of a word or phrase that adequately expresses my utter disbelief that the wrecker of our economy is giving lectures to others about financial matters. I find this task quite beyond me.

    • 8
      Tessa Tickles says:

      It’s like Ian Brady giving lectures on childcare.

    • 15
      AC1 says:

      In other News Pol Pot will be at Farm Expo 2011 to lecture about new farming methods to increase yields.

      • 20
        SKID@MARK says:

        Well he was the worlds biggest producer of bonemeal fertilizer !

        • 24
          The Paragnostic says:

          Mao shit on that record ten times over.

          There was a Georgian fellow who was quite effective too – Gordon’s role model I believe.

          Socialism – fucking up lives since 1917.

  4. 5
    Pedant says:

    Guido – you need to fix that typo in the first para

    • 106
      The Paragnostic says:

      I dunno – “Vagas” is Portuguese for “Vacancies”, so quite apt for the monocular mentalist.

  5. 6
    Eeu to me says:

    The people of Kirkcaldy got what they deserved they voted him back in, if he isn’t representing them serves them right, they can get rid of him in 4years or sonner if he dies or resigns, no sympathy.

    • 36
      Drop a Daisy cutter on the BBC says:

      To right, fuck the jocks

    • 51
      Anonymous says:

      Maybe sooner, Sarah went to US, looking for a house maybe. Don’t worry though, the Mercans will not be able to understand him anyway.

    • 69
      Southern Softy says:

      The good people of Kirkaldy who didn’t vote for McDoom, or didn’t vote at all, have lost nothing.
      The poor people who did vote for him, probably don’t know he doesn’t turn up at work, nor would they care as long as they get their benefits and the chipshop and the pub have not closed.

    • 131
      Sir Barrington Minge says:

      Lets face it they would vote in a turd if you stuck a red rosette on it….come to think of it that’s what they did!!

      • 207
        Mad Jock McMad says:

        The giud fowk o’ thon lang toun c’ad Kirkcaldy have gien McSlavver’s wee boy the heave ho and gien thon deils the SNP a go.

        McSlavver’s ‘ll been telt he canna gae troughin by yon Millipede as Kirkcaldy fowk are gettin richt ramjamfu o Labour’s keich an efter Thursday’s reckoning they’d be oot on their bahookies if McSlavver’s gangs tae yon Institute for Mental Fuchheids as he’s efter.

        Minge – there’s no many places left e’en in Labour’s auld fiefdom that a piece of keich wi a red rossette is safe ony mair. Them the libdems an the ither minority parties frae England are no the dug’s bollocks in Scotia any mair.

        Gies a twa or sae years and we will mak ye happy an’ be offski – nae point stayin whar ye dinnae want tae.

  6. 9
    Pam says:

    What’s the story Guido on Alastair Campbell’s evidence to the Chilcot Enquiry……that has just been reported on BBC?

    • 17

      the Dossier was designed to make war inevitable apparently. Wonder who ordered that?

      • 21
        The Paragnostic says:

        Haliburton.

      • 43
        Hugh Janus says:

        This may assist:

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1386262/Alastair-Campbell-did-mislead-Iraq-inquiry-claims-general.html?ITO=1490

        Do bears sh*t in the woods? We all knew at the time why the dossier was compiled: it was an attempt to convince a doubting public of the ‘need’ to invade Iraq. Given that this was the intention all along, did anyone seriously expect (apart from Chilcot perhaps) that this would be a scholarly, objective and completely unbiased exercise? With the odious Campbell up to his neck in it there was never the slightest chance that this would be the case. Any futher comment to the effect that Bliar, Campbell et al lied through their teeth is simply superfluous.

        • 73
          Good Catholic Socialist Tony Blair says:

          They were only lies, and they only led to the deaths of 100,000 working-class men, women and children.

          Meh.

        • 88
          bergen says:

          Watch this being endlessly discussed on the BBC I don’t think.

        • 133
          Logan says:

          Thankfully the dossiers were originally drafted in MS word and earlier revisions were saved as the dossier was edited and emended. From this we know what the dossier used to say prior to release during its draft revisions.

          It was blindingly obvious that a dossier that used to say “Iraq was not a threat to us, or indeed even to her neighbours” and was changed to remove all doubt and caveats about the accuracy or origins of the intelligence and had a foreword added suggestive that the UK was 45 minutes from doom, clearly proves that the 2001-2005 labour Government lied it’s ass off to present a false case for war.

          Who was the chairperson at the meeting to finalise the “presentation” of the dossiers? Al Campbell. What is the nature of a meeting to finalise the “presentation” of a dossier? Simply to ensure that the dossier “presents” the right spin.

          To be absolutely clear, before the Al Campbell chaired presentation meeting the draft dossier showed that Iraq had been troublesome in the past, but that there was “NO evidence that Iraq was a threat now and was not a threat to us, or even her neighbours”.

          After the Al Campbell chaired presentation meeting, the UK was 45 minutes from doom!

          Al claimed he had nothing to do with the actual information in that dossier as the chairman of the JIC took ownership of it. However he is a spin-doctor who chaired a meeting on how best to present that information to the public and all caveats and the whole meaning of the dossier changed at that meeting.

          Of course they lied. Some might say, “over egged the pudding”. I say they lied.

        • 145
          Errr..... says:

          One day, with a bit of luck, Blair and Cambell will swing for this. Not in the partner swapping sense…….Cambell’s not mental enough to want to shag Cherie.

      • 91
        Tough on the Causes of Crime says:

        Here he is trying out his cell in the Hague.

        http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01893/tony-blair_1609386_1893595c.jpg

      • 95
        Logan says:

        KBR!

    • 27
      Desperate Dan says:

      Don’t believe anything you hear on the BBC.

  7. 10
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    “Gordon goes to Vegas”

    1: What have the people of Vegas dont to deserve this?

    2: Not doubt Gordon is away gambling with someone else`s money as normal.

    3: Are his fee`s liable for UK tax?

    • 19
      The Paragnostic says:

      In other news, Lady Luck was seen heading across the Nevada desert in her nightdress.

      Not even she is inured to the Curse of Jonah…

  8. 11
    A GREAT TRAIN ROBBER ! says:

    Is there not one MP who has the balls to inform the police,
    that fraud is being committed against the tax payers of this country
    by this vile unstable has been wanker
    he is carrying on stealing money for a position he is not filling
    or can we not just have him killed ?

  9. 12
    Selohesra says:

    Can we not find some seals to do a job on him before he gets back to UK

    • 34
      Backwoodsman says:

      Or preferably a Nharwale, that would make his eyes water more than his beard and her strap on.

  10. 13
    The Paragnostic says:

    The Salt conference, eh?

    Is he going to cure all the worlds ills? Or maybe see what he can salt away for a rainy day?

    Why on earth would anyone who knows how to make money want to listen to a discredited buffoon whose opinions on banking and finance are unlikely ever to be listened to seriously by anyone in a position to influence matters?

    Brown really is the best argument for the power of recall of MPs that we have – never in Parliament, rarely in his constituency – does the man ever do what he is being paid so handsomely for?

    On second thoughts, let’s just salt the slug and have done with it.

    • 97
      I'm not a cynic but..... says:

      Twat probably thought it was to with Strategic Arms Limitation and thought he’d better go ‘cos of Faslane.

  11. 22
    Julian the wonderhorse says:

    The speech is entitled: How to make a small fortune. Have a large fortune and let me handle it

    How can we mobilise people to heckle? Bigoted women of the world unite

    • 47
      Brown destroyed my savings says:

      So bloody true. I am a widow of a Lloyds Bank Manger. Year after year he took his profit sharing in Lloyds Bank shares. Also we saved in SAYE shemes.More shares.I wanted holidays but no he said, the dividends from these will keep you happy and secure in old age.One time they were worth £300k and produced £12k of dividends each year. Then Victor Blank…Lloyds Chairman… met Gordon Brown at a reception and PM said Lloyds must take over HBOS and Blank would be rewarded.Result.Shares now worth £35k, no dividend for the last two years.When I go to church each Sunday, I now pray that Gordown Brown will suffer as I and my fellow Lloyds Bank widows have done. he has destroyed my old age.

      • 112
        Iloathlefties says:

        There are no words that can adequately descibe Browns incompetence!!!!!!! Such a hugeW**ker.

        • 127
          Sir William Waad says:

          Staggering….egregious….unprecedented…..bottomless….overwhelming……titanic….vast….Brobdingnagian….unfathomable….tireless….conceited……..humongous….monumental….megalithic….bungling..immense…..gargantuan….cosmic….colossal…..stupendous…..stupefying….unparalelles…..nonpareil…..astronomical….cackhanded….incredible….idiotic…..bumbling….kakistocratic….

          I could go on, but I’m afraid you’re right.

      • 132
        Anonymous says:

        I admire you greatly for just referring to him politely as Gordon Brown and PM in your post.

      • 135
        The Paragnostic says:

        I hope you at least get the satisfaction of seeing him not getting a State funeral, and the opportunity to dance at least once on his grave.

      • 191
        God says:

        Sorry to hear your very sad story. Gordon Brown should have his balls chopped off, minced, and then be forced to eat them.

  12. 26
    Desperate Dan says:

    The Rally Against the Debt should have held their demo at a more reasonable time of day. 11am on a Saturday morning is just wrong.

  13. 28
    Backwoodsman says:

    Haven’t heard too many ( ! ) plugs for the Rally Against Debt on the bbc.
    strange, they bigged up the cripples and we had wall to wall coverage of the Union Anarchists smashing the place up, and excuses for them afterwards.
    I thought public service broadcasters were meant to be inclusive and impartial. Surely reducing debt must be in the public interest ?
    Perhaps BQ MP could raise the question in the house for us ?

    • 32
      Desperate Dan says:

      They’re not wondering out loud why the Denis McShane case is taking such a long time to reach the courts either.

    • 46
      The Paragnostic says:

      One way to reduce the financial pressure on a household is to refuse to pay the BBC tax.

      Take a moment, next time it’s due for renewal, to think “Fuck ‘em – why should we pay for Socialist propaganda?”, and simply decide not to renew.

      Simple d*bt reduction for every household in the land – and if we really need a ‘public service broadcaster’ then a perfectly good one could be funded for ever from the sales of old BBC output and the assets of the Corporation.

  14. 38
    A well known cosmologist says:

    I have it on good authority that this is a cover story.

    He will in fact take the opportunity to dissapear down a hole in the ground at ‘area 51′ where his humanoid mask will be confiscated for misuse.

    From here he will be launched back to the planet Dour from whence he came at some time in the 60′s.

  15. 39
    Ama Zon says:

    About 1,000 books sold so far – idiots

    http://www.novelrank.com/asin/0857202855

  16. 40
    Gordon Brown says:

    What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.

    • 80
      Southern Softy says:

      Do us all a favour and YOU stay in Vegas.

    • 175
      Helena Handcart says:

      But Gordon, didn’t we see you hunched on a breakfast TV sofa pre-election claiming that if you lost you would devote yourself to charitable works?

      Still, charity begins at home, eh?

  17. 41
    annette curton says:

    Elvis singing Viva Las Vegas is now usurped by Gordon as the vocal entertainment at Ceasars Palace.
    ♫ He’s the man that broke the Bank in… Threadneedle Street ♫

  18. 45
    it'syourturn says:

    I’m sure Rally against debt’s going to draw in a massive croud!

    And your ‘Labour and the rest of the deficit denying’ statement is factually incorrect. Had Labour been in government, it would be cutting £7 for every £8 that the Conservatives are cutting. Hardly denying the deficit now are they?

    http://www.ifs.org.uk/bns/bn99.pdf

    The main difference is the spending cuts:tax rises ratio. But of course, that doesn’t fit in well with your attempts to depict Labour as deficit deniers.

    Have fun at your rally!

    • 53
      Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

      So why are labour and the left complaining about the goverments plans? and smashing up parts of London about it?

      • 142
        it'syourturn says:

        I can’t speak for all Labour voters/lefties, but I think there are a few grievances which are leading to people (stupidly) smashing up London…
        1) The fact that we’re cutting public spending while the economy is stagnating (akin to Hoover)
        2) That the deficit reduction plans in place are focused more on cuts rather than tax rises.
        3) The tax rises in place are regressive. Increasing VAT while cutting corporation tax is the type of policy that drives progressives mad.

      • 148
        Archer Karcher says:

        The cretin it’syourturn, has inadvertently let the cat out of the bag.
        All the hoo haa about savage tory cuts, too deep, too fast, is all hysterical posturing.
        Liars trying to out preform other frauds, who in turn are yaa booing mirror image frauds.
        It’s a dishonest circus, straight from the horses mouth.
        A rotating cartel of liars, frauds and thieves, in it for what they can get out of it, nothing more, nothing less.

        • 160
          it'syourturn says:

          I replied to Billy Bowden’s comment, but it hasn’t appeared yet.

          Unfortunately I didn’t inadvertently let the cat out of the bag. There are a few reasons why there’s all this hoo haa from the left…
          1) Public sector cuts are taking place while the economy is still stagnating (akin to Hoover after the Great Depression)
          2) The deficit is being reduced mostly through public sector cuts, rather than tax rises
          3) The tax rises that are being introduced are regressive. There’s nothing that enrages a lefty more than a VAT increase alongside a Corporation tax decrease.

          I’m guessing a few are also annoyed at the decision to stop the banker bonus tax and/or the pathetic excsue for windfall tax levied on banks (which has mostly been offset by the Corporation tax increase anyway).

          Some lefty geeks will also be annoyed at the fact that the annual investment allowance will be reduced from 100k to 25k – meaning there’s now even less incentive for corporations to reinvest their profits. Instead now shareholders are given an incentive to syphon off profits for themselves. Cause that’s what we need now… richer shareholders, not growing businesses(!)

    • 65
      The Paragnostic says:

      Just because Blue Labour aren’t cutting as much as they need is no reason not to categorise the “Too Much, Too Soon” chorus of Chicken LittleEd Balls as defecit denial – it’s more reason to demonstrate and to get the message home to Cameron and Osbourne that more and deeper cuts are needed.

      Such cuts can only be achieved by unpicking Labour’s deliberately obtuse rafts of legislative flotsam that have resulted in vast increases in public sector employment, and Dave and co. have been notably lax about doing that.

      • 72
        Phantom says:

        Blue Labour?

        Is that the same as New Labour only with a different Brown in charge (aka Roy ‘Chubby’ Brown) as PM instead of the world’s most boring nasally-afflicted librarian?

      • 151
        it'syourturn says:

        I’m sorry, I don’t see the logic in your argument. Are you saying that because Labour are arguing that the cuts are ‘too much, too soon’ – they’re ‘deficit deniers’?

        But surely there is more than one way of dealing with a deficit? The Conservative’s plans for reducing the deficit is not the only way. Labour have a different approach (involving a longer time scale, more tax rises, fewer spending cuts). You might not prefer this approach, but it’s intellectually dishonest to argue that because you don’t like the approach – it doesn’t exist. Because Labour’s plan for tackling the deficit is not as strict as you’d like you’re going to pretend that they don’t have a plan?

        • 174
          The Paragnostic says:

          Tackling the defecit, to me, means reducing it quickly enough that interest payments on existing d*bt don’t outstrip the defecit reductions you manage to make.

          This requires two things – firstly, a private sector that can grow quickly enough to generate the revenues required to reduce the defecit, and secondly, confidence in the fiscal plans of the government so that the cost of borrowing does not increase.

          Labour’s plans would meet neither criterion (the proposed tax increases would kill growth stone dead), and while the alternatives are unpalatable in the short term (as they will highlight the dependence of large areas of the ‘private’ sector on public sector consultancy etc.), the people who buy government bonds and thus fund the borrowing would see the Labour plans and think “PIGS again”, which would make the interest payments on future borrowing unsustainable.

          Hope that answers your question – if not, then I suggest you try reading something other than the discredited pseudo-economics of the Keynesians.

          • it'syourturn says:

            Considering I have a degree in Politics and Economics, from a top 5 university, I’m not sure you’re in a position to patronise me. I’ve spent years of my life studying Hayek, Friedman, Ricardo, etc.. I’ve actually read Adam Smith’s Wealth of Nations (which most free-market fetishists haven’t). I’m guessing, though I don’t know of course, I’m probably in a better position to discuss economics than you? The phrase ‘pseudo-economics’ is a petty buzz phrase used by people who have no grounding in economics, but like to dismiss the economic theories which aren’t compatible with their world-view. I’d avoid it if I were you.

            “Tackling the defecit, to me, means reducing it quickly enough that interest payments on existing d*bt don’t outstrip the defecit reductions you manage to make.”

            Er… not really. Tackling the deficit means increasing tax intake/reducing government spending until the two are at parity. Government spending would include debt payments, but we should consider that (especially in the UK) sovereign bonds are mostly long-term so aren’t going to be front-loaded.

            Anyway, right now wer’re running a structural deficit, rather than a cyclical one. This is extremely common when going through a recession (and a lot of economists would argue it’s advisable), and most people would agree that the most effective tool in counteracting structural deficits is economic growth.

            I agree we need private sector growth, though that’s not happening massively right now. This is partly Labour’s fault as they were happy making our economic output so concentrated in Square Mile.

            Where I’d disagree with you is that Private Sector growth is precipitated by attempts to reduce a structural deficit and that tax increases ‘kill economic growth stone-dead’. I’d argue the opposite. I think private sector growth is stunted by cuts in public sector. A large proportion of private sector output is dependant on the public sector, as you pointed out. Furthermore, if we real private sector economic growth (the type that increases both aggregate supply and aggregate demand) than we need to create incentives for private sector profits to be reinvested. This is the opposite of what the Conservatives have done by reducing the Annual Investment Allowance by 75%. Also, I believe that some taxes can actually help economic growth, especially if wealth is redistributed to people who have a higher propensity to consume. This doesn’t happen with VAT increases, but would with income tax/CG tax.

            Also I’ll quote from the IFS report -
            ‘We project that the Conservative plans would return government debt below 40% of national income in 2031–32, the same year as it would under Labour or the Liberal Democrats.’

            Obviously that’s discussing debt, rather than the deficit, but it’s an indication that Labour’s plans weren’t weak, as you Guidoites like to claim. It’s a bit of a cop-out to argue that because they argue for less severe cuts, they therefore deny the deficit. I find it weak to also speculate about how the bond markets would have reacted. Let’s face it, the bond markets aren’t rational economic actors. Also, do you really think our whole economic policy (while we’re experiencing stagflation) should be at the behest of such a market? Furthermore, if you read Paul Krugman (Nobel Prize in Economics), he would argue that the bond investors are more concerned with stagflation than immediate attempts to reduce the deficit. That’s why the interest rate on the 10-year US bond has gone down from 4% ten years ago, to around 2.5% this year.

            Anyway, rant over. I’d welcome an intelligent discussion with you, but please avoid using right-wing sound bites.

    • 67
      Phantom says:

      And you believe them?

      You f*cking mug.

      Then again, “Labour voters, stupid is what we do.”

      • 79
        The poor are poor because of their own stupidity says:

        Labours voters = council house dwellers.

        The people they vote for in Labour = multi property owners.

        Stupid is, as stupid does.

        • 86
          Southern Softy says:

          Don’t forget the champagne soshalists like Polly and Sally, et al.
          They are definitely the worst kind of Liebour voter.

  19. 48
    Gordon Brown is a monster says:

    Just about the most disgraceful aspect of Brown’s absence from the HoC was his failure to be in the chamber at the pmqs where the death of a soldier from Kirkcaldy was announced. Given the tradition for mps of constituencies who’ve lost a soldier to say a few words of condolence in the chamber, his absence was yet another disgusting insult to the people he claims to represent. This creature is beyond repulsive.

    • 75
      Hugh Janus says:

      He does ‘repulsive’ exceedingly well. In fact, this is the one thing at which he is truly outstanding.

      • 105
        say what you see! says:

        Nauseating comes a close second.

        • 113
          Smokin' Butt says:

          And, or course, he’s an Olympic-class bogey-muncher.

        • 154
          Archer Karcher says:

          Dysfunctional sociopath also crosses the mind when you see his glowering presence, quickly followed by his utterly creepy ‘ come here young boy, I have some sweeties’ smile.

  20. 49
    Mr Angry61 says:

    Why on Earth would anyone want to listen to Gordon Brown? No entertainment value, and the only Yanks who’ll have actually heard of him in the first place will know him to be comprise meglomania, inemptitude and rage.

    • 156
      Archer Karcher says:

      Can you imagine the self obsessed bore McShite ever telling a joke, or having a witty conversation? No, neither can I.

    • 178
      Sell! Sell! says:

      Surely anyone stupid enough to “invest” in McDoom’s pearls of wisdom shouldn’t be allowed to handle money?

  21. 54
    Drop a Daisy cutter on the BBC says:

    Can the twat stay in Vegas?

  22. 56
    Small society in the Big House says:

    Gordon Brown lecturing on prudence, David Laws guilty of only protecting his privacy, MPs debating the unfairness of IPSA.
    Has politics really changed?

    • 180
      Helena Handcart says:

      Yes, it’s got worse. Our nation truly is run by a bunch of third-rate mediocrities.

      I don’t want to hear about their fantasies of social engineering or the blow-by-blow accounts of their zero-sum Westminster playground battles – some basic competence in the essentials of running the country would be sufficient.

  23. 57
    the moneyshot says:

    im sure some of UKs gold reserves must of seen this place

    http://www.gspawn.com/gold-silver-pawn/

  24. 58
    I hope Gordon runs into people like this in Vegas says:

    • 82
      annette curton says:

      So many parallels its frightening.

      • 90
        The Paragnostic says:

        Wasn’t Al Capone one of the founders of the “Chicago School”?

        He certainly had a healthy attitude to tax…

      • 109
        nicky campbell says:

        Isn’t that the film in which Sharon Stone keeps her clothes on ?

  25. 62

    In the meantime, its business as usual at the BBC….

    Just posted on the BBC Look North Facebook page..

    “Some of the most vulnerable adults in Yorkshire are experiencing more severe cuts in social care compared with people living in the South – according to a survey for the BBC. On Thursday’s Look North, we’ll hear from people who are already feeling the effects of council cuts first-hand. We’ll also be quizzing a spokesperson for the Government. But we’d like to hear from you , if you or your relatives are paying more for their social care.”

    So the “evil Tories” are back and what does Pravda do? It dusts off the old North/South divide debate again..

    Ooh just look what I’ve found on the Guardians job page..

    >>Head of childrens services at Leeds Council – £89k to £105k

    • 181
      Down With The Broken Biscuit Corporation says:

      I’ll bet the last one didn’t leave at their own expense either.

    • 190
      Mrs E Adams says:

      “Some of the most vulnerable adults in Yorkshire”

      BBC-speak for lazy, shiftless scum.

      Screw AV, these parasites shouldn’t be allowed to vote.

  26. 66
    Drop a Daisy cutter on the BBC says:

    Gordon’s gone to see all the people who bought our gold at 50p an ounce that HE flogged off.

  27. 71
    Drop a Daisy cutter on the BBC says:

    So it’s BBC QT coming from Strangeways so we can have a Liebore MP on?

    • 76
      Hugh Janus says:

      And the audience will be the usual unbiased sample???

      • 85
        Drop a Daisy cutter on the BBC says:

        A room full of convicts, isn’t that the same when the do the show from Liverpool?

        • 108
          Boris says:

          Steady on.

        • 152
          Rob.C says:

          here here !!!!! scouse scum……..But they have a great sense of humour when they are taking the piss out of everyone else………….Just not so good when its on them…..

      • 87
        The Paragnostic says:

        I’d imagine that quite a few of the audience will be small businessmen with extensive experience in satisfying m*rket demand, negotiating settlements and looking after their families. Just not in areas of which the State approves.

        Probably not natural Labour voters, in fact.

        • 94
          Drop a Daisy cutter on the BBC says:

          Well the BBC will be happy, they will be able to top up on Cocaine and get plenty of fudge packing action in.

          I suspect there will be a big list of male volunteers from the BBC to do this show. A gay mans wet dream.

      • 110
        annette curton says:

        Should have enough Politicians banged-up by now to assemble a panel from the inmates though.

        • 167
          PD77 says:

          Heavily in favour of the Liebore crew though at the moment, so a typical Question Time then!

    • 93
      Impartial Observer says:

      I think the audiences appear left wing because of the nature of the activist socialists the program attracts, who continually feel the need to shout out, jeer or applaud wildly like a herd of manic sea-lions.

      The right-wing members of the audience are more polite and reserved and don’t consider themselves duty bound to impose their values on everyone else.

      Notice also which members of the panel listen quietly to other panel members and respect their opinion, and those who continually interrupt or try to shout down any opposing views.

    • 96
      Southern Softy says:

      Fucking hasbeen Cable and fucking hasbeen Blunkett.
      If I’m going to wean myself off QT, tonight could be just the night.

    • 103
      Question Time says:

      QT from Strangeways prison is next Thursdays program.
      In which ten Wormwood Scrubs inmates and 10 staff will join 100 members of the public in the audience next Thursday the 19th of May.

      This Thursday chair and host David Dimbleby is joined by the usually lefty rent’a’mob in Sheffield, with the following panellists.

      Vince Cable
      David Blunkett
      Anna Soubry
      James O’Brien
      Max Mosley

      • 116
        annette curton says:

        Looks likes the opening credits from a Hammer horror film.

      • 119
        Drop a Daisy cutter on the BBC says:

        Max Mosley, what a fucking hoot, not a single right winder on the panel as usual.

        • 130
          The BBC are cunts says:

          We really are totally unbiased… Alastair Campbell told us to say so.

      • 121
        The Paragnostic says:

        Max?

        Should be a spanking good show then. Is David Schneider on the reserve list?

        Not heard of Anna Soubry before, but reading her Wiki page she sounds like a spunky lass who will probably go deliciously off-message at some point – might be entertaining.

        • 147
          Latecomer says:

          with a following wind she might sit on max’s face and blunkett can career around the stage searching for feely bits for his dog to chew

  28. 74
    David Laws says:

    Guess what?

    I’M GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

    • 77
      Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

      and?

      • 81
        David Laws says:

        It’s a good get out of free jail card I find!

        • 84
          Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

          No, It was because you had crooks passing judgement on another crook.

        • 168
          PD77 says:

          It also means you’re well prepared for life in jail too, can guarantee you won’t complain to the screws when you get a Jolly Rogering and I’m not on about from Somali Pirates!

    • 183
      Di Versity says:

      Congratulations! No one can ever say anything nasty about you ever again!

    • 189
      Bryant says:

      Wanna see my pants?

  29. 78
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Memo to the Home Sec:

    Please revoke his passport!

  30. 92
    Sen Reid (Democrat) says:

    Oh shit!

  31. 101
    Kered Ybretsae says:

    Misterrr BBBbbrrrrrrooooon comes to Vegas. Perhaps they won’t let the bugger back home again. This rather sad, mad man blathering away picking up the cash.

    • 107
      Mr Nice says:

      Or perhaps lying in a shallow grave in the Nevada desert, dried blood caked around the hole in the back of his head.

      • 141
        Sir Barrington Minge says:

        Smashing what you can do with a nice 45 cal Browning 1911

      • 172
        PD77 says:

        More like dried blood caked around the hole in his backside, along with something that looks like Brandy Sauce!

  32. 114
    Sir William Waad says:

    Las Vagas, eh? That means ‘The Ramblings’, in Spanish, more or less, which is very appropriate.

  33. 115
    Drop a Daisy cutter on the BBC says:

    Can we swap McFuckwit’s passport for Gary McKinnon’s? Then the yanks can keep Gordon. all they want is a nutter right?

    • 126
      The Paragnostic says:

      They could probably spot the difference between Aspergers and narcissistic sociopathy, though…

  34. 117
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Gordon Brown on Economics is like Tony Blair being a middle east p*ace envoy….Oh wait….

  35. 129
    Gordon Brown is a clown says Mrs E Adams says:

    Obama has now seen through Gordon Brown’s gimmicks. Plus pressure from the Republicans means cuts in America will be deeper and faster than our own. Brown’s global reputation as an economic hero is on the decline. I assume he is cashing in on his over inflated economic heroism while he can.
    I will wait until his book is in Oxfam. It is right the money should go to the starving Africans that both Mr & Mrs Brown use to try and enhance their global and economic reputation as being kind & caring. Faux concern used as means to prop up their own bank accounts.

  36. 136
    Pac-Man says:

    Brown mouth is a puckering anal sphincter breathing his particular brand shit flecked breath over the audience

  37. 143
    Sir Barrington Minge says:

    And his beard will be in Canterbury……

    • 155
      The Final Solution says:

      wasn’t it on the Marr show he breathlessly said he and sarh would want to do something charitable after politics..paying him to speak sounds far too charitable to me..scumbag wants fucking shooting as a rabid dead duck

  38. 153
    Scotland says:

    Who says Labour MPs take us for granted…be warey. Brown may be out of Parliament today, but expect an SNPer to replace him. Up the revolution!

    • 158
      Kick the Fat Ugly C'unt says:

      it shows what a bunch of mingers the good people of Kirkcaldy are when they re-elected the moron

    • 195
      Hang The Bastards says:

      He spineless shite will retire before the next election to save what little of his face fucking ugly face he has left

  39. 157
    Albert Hall says:

    The good people of Kirkaldy deserve Brown 100%. The electors of that town have the intellect of small creatures and deserve to be treated with contempt by their MP.

  40. 161
    Doc Trough says:

    It should be remembered that Area 51 is also in Nevada. Perhaps his presence coincides with an Alien Ware software upgrade, or his human exo-suit was becoming frayed at the edges.

  41. 163
    BarryW says:

    Rally against Debt
    Too far for me to travel from the West Country, sadly,
    but will be with you in spirit,
    or rather full caffine coffee
    and maybe a glass of single malt in the evening.

  42. 166
    the last quango in paris says:

    well, it all started in America according to Brown – maybe he is taking Sarah out there to do some charity work and tell them all where they went wrong thus ending boom and bust.

  43. 169
    FFS says:

    Just turned on bloomberg to see …..blanchflower AGAIN and I thought is he the only Brit they get on here??

    Well I was in for a pleasant surprise, he is not, imagine the shock when Blinky came on to be interviewed by his old mate blanchflower….. slapping backs etc.

    Is the US the only place who listen to the “too far too fast” ????

    • 179
      The Paragnostic says:

      Well Blanchflower has been one of Geithner’s cheerleaders over the past couple of years, so he’s probably quite popular with the sort of person who’d rather prop up the banks than get the economy on track, as the US Dems seem to be.

      Don’t know why anyone listens to Balls, though…

      • 204
        FFS says:

        It was very much that Balls provided the same POV as the Democrats and they lapped the Ballisms up, “I kept the UK out of the Euro”, “I said we have a plan to 1/2 the def w/i 4 yrs”, “they are cutting too far too fast”, “Osborne is a growth denier”, “1932 again” did not mention the UK QE though

        (This tosser balls just loves to pump prime the economy, they had been at it for 10 years, it is magic money, he thinks. However the pound is not the world’s reserve currency and the UK debt is not the same as US gov bonds. If Balls gets into power just watch the interest rate rocket…)

        See what the Fed has been getting up to here in this Rolling Stone article

        http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-real-housewives-of-wall-street-look-whos-cashing-in-on-the-bailout-20110411?page=1

  44. 170
    Anonymous says:

    It’s all a mistake. someone called Gordon a vague ass, and there was no stopping him.

  45. 171
    Waiter in Granita says:

    I can reveal that it was arranged years ago by Blair and Brown that they’d stitch up the country and make themsleves fortunes.

  46. 176
    Hang The Bastards says:

    This must be a WIND-UP

    Jonah is obviously the after dinner entertainment……

    Nothing better than pissing yourself laughing whilst listening to some deluded MONG !

  47. 182
    I don't need no doctor says:

    What’s wrong with the parlimentary standards committee. Why isn’t someone investigating Brown and his activities. If your payed by the tax payer then you should be working for them.
    ARE YOU LISTENING BROWN? ARE YOU LISTENING PARLIAMENT?

  48. 184
    50 Calibre says:

    Come the revolution…

  49. 185
    watson says:

    He’s just adjusting his moral compass again as a sin ( sick) of the manse
    Ps sick as in sic

  50. 186
    Tory Voter says:

    Sorry Guido. I don’t do demos, I leave that shite to the lefties.

  51. 187
    Lucy says:

    Oh No! this blogs gone UKIP! have you heard the rumour that Nigel Farage is going to transform or something at the Rally????

  52. 188
    Paul Cooper says:

    transform into what????????? I doubt he will even be there its a non partisan rally its nothing to do with UKIP

  53. 192
    Ivan Agenda says:

    Love the radio 4 oft repeated story that QT will this week be held in a prison.
    10 prisoners have been chosen by the prison authorities and the Beeb so expect ranting loony “working class” lefty misfits to give some biased questions. Jack “Man of Straw” in attendance representing socialist values. Nuff Sed. Prison officers will also be attending (after screening by Dumbleby)
    Also Belesconi’s television station fined E100K for bias supporting him. When are our “monitoring authorities” going to fine the bbc – don’t hold your breath.

  54. 193
    Had Enough says:

    Its a non partisan rally but UKIP are involved in organising it and Nigel Farage will be there and will be revealing his true reptilian form before all

    Have you hard Guido is on NewsNight tonight? He is going to slaughter those hobos at UKUncut who apparently are also on

    where is Gordon Brown today i wonder? Atlantic City?

  55. 196
    Diamond Jim Broon (Kirkaldy branch: Gamblers Anonymous) says:

    5 billion on the red, the noo…

  56. 197
    Lola says:

    I am unable to go to the Rally. So, I will go to work instead. I will make a bit of money and I will pay a lot of tax. That’s my protest. It will show up the leeching scum who went on the rally against the cuts.

    • 198
      Had Enough says:

      well said Lola! why do we even have the NHS anyway? and has your house ever been on fire? mine hasn’t! but im still expected to pay for these layabouts to cruise around town in their big red shiny lorry thing!

  57. 200
    Gordon Brown says:

    I’m 200th! I’m clever!

  58. 201
    Gordon Brown's abacus says:

    No more boom and bust! British jobs for British workers! That is all you need to hear…

  59. 202
    HP says:

    His seat goes very much represented at the Scottish parliament, one of a number of labour losses as scots realised his poisonous legacy

  60. 203

    Did anyone see Question Time tonight? The Tory girl came out with the £7 for £8 statement and Dimbers slapped her right down, to huge audience applause. It was six against two. I like to see BBC impartiality. Then Mosley the spanker started spouting about Keynsian economics. Another “panelist” who ran a chat show apparently, defended Law’s sexuality only to be totally confounded by a member of the audience who said yes, but what if someone had hid their partner whilst claiming housing benefit. Pure comedy gold from the BBC, not quite on a par with the Two Ronnies “Fork handles” sketch but close.

    • 206
      Anonymous says:

      yeah……..i had to turn it off in the end though…..bbc totally biased as usual….

  61. 205
    Jimmy says:

    Only posh people would choose Cup Final day for a demo. Any later I suppose and you run into Glyndebourne or the Flower Show. Are hats required for Ladies?

  62. 209
    colin osborne says:

    I cannot afford to travel to London from Shropshire to join the demonstration, but you have a just cause, and I wish you all success.

  63. 210
    Jock E. Shorts says:

    Las Vegas eh?
    So, more Boom and Dust!
    Bloody liar.

  64. 211
    Had Enough says:

    Have you heard Nigel Farage is going to change into an alligator or something in front of the UKIP People? i can’t travel down from Norfolk but would love to see that

  65. 214
    Bozo Patsy Gordon sold UK's gold for a song says:

    Plenty of one-armed bandits in vegas.
    Do they really need a one-eyed one too?

  66. 215
    bruce banner=incredible hulk says:

    the labour party are looking forward to savage cuts being inflicted by the tories for mess they made ed milliband wants cuts and not growth when cuts begins he pretends to be against cuts while secretly loving it=the cuts and when theres growth he not happy as for bbc do people enjoy paying tv licence so that they get relentless labour party propaganda day in day out in return?


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