February 24th, 2011

Miliband’s Ideological Guru in Pay of Saif Gaddafi

The links between the Gaddafi family, Blair, Mandelson and Brown’s government are well documented. Does Ed Milband’s “new generation” also have links to the Libyan dictatorship? Has Ed Miliband himself got personal links to the “mad dog of the Middle East”?

Professor Held is ghost-writing a big-ideas book for his Dartmouth Park neighbour Ed Miliband, he is also co-director of the London School of Economics’ Centre for the Study of Global Governance. The Centre took £300,000 off Saif Gaddafi.

Held also oversaw Saif’s dodgy doctorate which is under great pressure to be revoked. Professor Held chairs the “Special Ralph Miliband Lecture” series and in November 2009 invited Ed to give one in front of his mother. Watch how Ed heaped praise on Held for all the work he has done for his family:

Six months later Held chaired another “Special Ralph Miliband” event, only this time with a slightly higher profile guest. The details have mysteriously been pulled from the LSE website, but Guido can confirm Held welcomed Saif as a “Representative of the Miliband program” with the sort of sycophantic introduction that only a large sum of money can buy:

When you hear him trying to distance himself from it all in the Guardian, remember he has enjoyed the regimes hospitality.

Ed Miliband’s ideological lodestar is a professor funded by Gaddafi’s bloody money who says he is friends with Saif. Great judgement…


  1. 1
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Corruptin at the heart of Labour and friends!!!!! I dont beleive it .


  2. 2
    Porkie Pie Pickles says:

    LOL…. Must try harder Guido… None of this stuck is sticking


    • 3
      Eeu to me says:

      Throw mud and some will stick, it’s trying to clean it off that makes the smears.


    • 9
      Observer says:

      Don’t you mean “Nine of this stick as stacking”?


    • 95
      BillyBob.....beware, the jungle drums!! says:

      Beyond New Labour are earning their dosh today ? However, I doubt the story will be taken up by the Gruniad, BeeB or Sky….


      • 325
        Bri says:

        Look North BBC 24/2/11
        British Yemeni (born in Yorkshire) travelled back to Yemen to discover his roots.
        Lo and behold his Grandma conceived his Mother when she was TEN YEARS OLD.
        All the stupid t**t could go on about was “they don’t have enough drinking water”

        That’s the trouble in North Africa, whoever is running the show.


  3. 4
    Hmm says:

    I had a friend, who dated a girl, who once chatted to a Libyan on an AOL chat room.

    Probably best I never run for office eh?


  4. 5

    “Special” being what our North American cousins call “exceptional”, usually followed by “needs”, “school”, or “people”.


  5. 6
    Phantom says:

    Holy feck….

    Guido, that is one hell of a smoking gun you’ve got there…

    Who’s going to get the popcorn for this one?


  6. 7
    tory boys never grow up says:

    Perhaps Guido could let us have the name of his ideological gurus so that we can al play the guilt by association game.


    • 11

      Karl Popper, F A Hayek, Robert Nozick, David Friedman (not his dad, too wet) and Gordon Gekko.


      • 19

        You missed out this guru, Guido:


      • 46
        tory boys never grow up says:

        Not David Hart or who evever linked you up with the contras?


      • 70

        I think you’ll find that it is

        Karl Popper, F A Hayek, Robert Nozick, David Friedman (not his dad, too wet) and Gordon Gekko, we gave your boys a hell of a beating…


      • 85
        Desperate Guido says:

        For someone who supposedly likes Hayek and Popper youre surprisingly in favour of a voting system that necessarily produces an overly strong executive…

        ‘We shall never prevent the abuse of power if we are not prepared to limit power in a way which occasionally may prevent its use for desirable purposes.’ Friedrich Hayek


        • 120
          The Sleeper says:

          You missed the point. Power in our system is already limited by the separation of it into the branches of: the executive, the judiciary and the legislature. Something you don’t see in totalitarian socialist and fascist systems.

          You need to read quite a bit more.


          • I Remember You Hoo says:

            It’s not the reading that is needed, it’s the ability to understand what is read. Something the lefty trolls have great difficulty with.


          • Desperate Guido says:

            It is already limited you are right, but nowhere near enough. Our legislature is largley ineffective as a result of the whopping majorities delivered by FPTP and the system by which the executive is drawn from the legislature… Take for instance the last Labour government for an example of some of the things that go wrong in a legislature cowed by whipping and ministerial jobs…


          • Desperate Guido says:

            Plus i wouldnt self describe as a leftie, I am simply reminding Guido of the libertarian principles he is supposedly informed by…


          • The Sleeper says:

            I’m sure he is most grateful. Being the World’s Top Blogger might lead one to a mighty fall.


          • friendly hangman says:

            Or the EUSSR


        • 283

          Tell me how keeping the LibDems in perpetual government will limit government power?


      • 169
        Tom Tomos says:



  7. 13
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Wasnt Lybia a socailists paradise?


    • 79
      I Remember You Hoo says:

      Still is apparently and Pappa Ghaddafi’s regime sits on the UNHRC too.

      Socialists, hear no evil, see no evil, say no evil about their comrades, until the spotlight shines on their shitty playpens, then of course, they refuse to admit they were best buddies all along.


    • 154
      Osama the Nazarene says:

      Wouldn’t be surprised if they weren’t part of the “Socialist International” with Kinnockio at its head!


      • 193
        Judge folk by the company they keep says:

        No, but Daniel Ortega the Sandinista hero of the entire British Left and current President of Nicaragua (and member of Kinnock’s Socialist International):

        “HAVANA — Cuba’s former leader Fidel Castro said Tuesday(22 Feb) that unrest in Libya may be a pretext for a NATO invasion. Nicaragua’s Daniel Ortega has jumped to the support of the embattled leader of the North African nation, saying he telephoned to express solidarity.

        The protests sweeping across Libya have created challenges for the Latin American allies of Moammar Gaddafi.”

        Shame the Contras pay him a visit.


        “Leftist governments in the Americas have long embraced him as a fellow fighter against US influence in the world. Gaddafi has responded over the years by awarding the Moammar Gaddafi International Human Rights Prize to Castro and Ortega, as well as to Presidents Hugo Chavez of Venezuela, Evo Morales of Bolivia.”



  8. 14
    Col Gadaffi says:

    I piss on the shirt of this Miliband goat. I admire Gordon.


  9. 15
    Labour are and always have been the real nasty party says:

    Wee Dougie Alexander pontificating on Newsnight about the government’s handling of the Libya situation doesn’t look too smart now given his party’s and his leader’s close ties with the murderous regime.


    • 43
      QWERTY says:

      More like Gadfly is pissed off being linked to Nu Liebour, he should have known he was fucked the moment he met McFuckwit.


  10. 16

    Mildly O/T but I know how much the ‘lickers are missing the former PM, so here’s a nugget I can share with you, fro the diary of his dearly bearded:

    Gordon & Sarah Brown were on the way to a black-tie Olympics dinner. On the way, they learn only the prime minister has an invite. She writes, in her newly published diary, “I agree to sit and wait in the car”. In the car park. Waiting for Gordon for three hours.


    • 18
      Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

      Was it Sues fault?


    • 36
      Labours Boardwalk Empire says:

      Couldn’t she have nipped over to Canterbury for a couple of hours.


    • 37
      Steve Miliband says:

      Black-tie Olympics dinner? Never been to one of those, wonder what you have to do? Eat 7 courses over 2 days? Synchronised starters?


    • 71
      Potkettle says:

      No No you have it all wrong,
      It was Valentines day
      It wasnt an olympic dinner it was a Little Chef Olympic Breakfast.
      The tight snot gobbler made her sit in the car while he filled his fat jowly face


    • 102
      Cynical-old-bag says:

      Oh for pity’s sake!

      Were they so thick that they couldn’t read an invitation? And were their staff also as thick?

      Stupid woman.


      • 108
        Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

        Proberly too scared Didnt want to dodge a Nokia.


        • 254
          Airey Belvoir says:

          Puts Brown in a very poor light – any husband who would neither insist his wife be included, or declined to attend alone and stick with her, is an arsehole par excellence. If they visit towel-head land, she will be walking 20 yards ahead of him in case of landmines.


  11. 17

    Ooh, the Labour trolls are out in force this afternoon, aren’t they?


    • 77
      Eds a ballbag says:

      One thing the Eds have in common is the love of spin and anti spin – similar to matter and anti matter except something remains after spin – no energy but shite all over the place.


  12. 21
    Eeu to me says:

    Didn’t take them long to attack, must be something that Guido wrote ,14 comments that is quick, must have gone past lunch time and their already back from the pub


  13. 23
    Damien Fowkes says:

    I’ve done Colin Hatch. Now, where’s this Hancock chap you all talk about?


    • 107
      Mike Hunt says:

      here’s a start – he doesn’t live in Portmouth.

      Well done on Hatch too, I think some kind of award is in order.


  14. 24
    Tony Blair says:

    My friendship with the honourable Colonel has made me stinking rich. Screw you, suckers! Being PM was the best career move I ever made!


  15. 25
    NeverRed says:

    This would provide an excellent subject for the bbc and Guardian to investigate, whilst they are checking wikileaks for appropriate messages between Blair/Brown/Gaddafi.


    • 39
      The BBC says:

      We stopped reporting Wikileaks when that nasty man published stuff that was untrue about sweet Gordon, it was those fucking Tories wot done it and that is all we at the BBC care about.

      “Tories, Tories, Tories…OUT OUT OUT”

      Luv the BBC


      • 112
        Mike Hunt says:

        You forgot Ashcroft and ‘Fatcher.


      • 202
        bergen says:

        The Guardianistas and the Beeb are in a state about the Wikileaks story.Normally they would be on the barricades defending him even if it was a murder charge..But as it’s rape/indecency they are worried about offending the massed ranks of the wimmin and seem unsure of the line to take apart from alleging a US plot.


  16. 26
    To think that this time last year this cunt was still in power. Let's enjoy this moment again... says:


    • 48
      White Van Man says:

      Gob bless Gillian Duffy and all who’ve ever sailed in her.


      • 53
        Gillian's priceless reaction to being told Brown called her a bigot says:

        You’re jawking! You are jawking!


        • 137
          andrew says:

          And U TURN DAVE still did not get a majority .He gave Nick Clegg a referendum vote on AV ,which if the yes2av win you are in trouble as no one in their right mind will put the NASTY PARTY AS THEIR 2ND VOTE .I would hate to play CALL ME DAVE at poker .AS HE SOUNDS A HARD MAN TO BLUFF.
          Andrew Edinburgh


          • Silent Dogfart says:



          • Anon says:

            Oh fuck off Andrew you sad, lefty, no mates twat.


          • Gonk says:

            Eagle, Beano or Victor.
            Just for background information you understand


          • Gonk says:

            Damn. I forgot to add Bunty


          • Nobody voted for Nick or LibDems to be in government either says:

            One thing is for certain people won’t put LibDems as their 1st 2nd or 3rd choice and it’s far from certain that the Libdems will even win the referendum on May 6th .Why do you think they’re cacking themselves that Clegg will will be associated with the Yes Campaign ?? The LibDems are fucked both in the referendum and the local elections…


      • 134
        Anonymous says:

        It was Fred Dibnah in drag.


  17. 27
    Money Talks says:

    Bloody Hell I know tuition fees are going up for foreign students but isn’t £1.5 million a bit steep for a Master of Science and a doctorate?



  18. 28
    NBeale says:

    Serious questions to be answered here. There is no doubt that Labour did try to “bring Libya in from the cold” and it was a MAJOR success to get them to give up their WMD programme. So the LSE can probably say truthfully that they were encouraged by HMG to be nice to Gaddafi.

    But it is now crystal clear that Gaddafi is still a murderous dictator, and that his son is aiding and abetting him. Compare the vast fuss the lefites made about the supposedly “anti-semitic and homophobic” comments of an ally of Cameron’s in the EPP.


  19. 33
    The BBC says:

    Look we at the BBC are not interested in this sort of thing, we did hear however, that David Cameron once drove down a road that Gadfly had also once driven down, this is BIG news and more proof that it was the Tories who let Al-Mcbendy out of jail and not dear sweet Gordon or the lovely Tone.

    Now fuck off you right wing twats.

    Love the BBC


  20. 34
    BBC News says:

    We are waiting for confirmation of reports that Lord Ashcroft may be involved in the Libyan crisis. But we can confirm that Tony Blair and Gordon Brown never visited Libya and have never heard of Col Gaddafi.


    • 44
      BBC update says:

      We now suspect that the Libyan protesters were under the influence of hallucinogenic drugs handed out to them by under cover members of the tea party under the command of Sarah Palin who is being financed by Lord Ashcroft.


      • 63
        BBC update update says:

        It’s becoming apparent that the problems in Libya are a direct result of the Coalition cuts according to our reporters at 39 Victoria Street, London SW1H 0HA


        • 67
          BBC update update update says:

          And 100,000 jobs will go in the Libyan health service because of Tory cuts.


          • BBC nodate says:

            Breaking news from our correspondence in tripoli, inside the presidential palace, it was the tory party that blew up the locherbie plane – this from the horses arse.


          • BBC NoOneShow says:

            Are we cut too?


          • Susie says:

            While we’re on the subject, one of the 2 BBC ladies on News24 has just said, “We have Brian Maddeson who’ll explain why oil price rises are not very good news for motorists”.

            Well fuck me sideways, BBC…


  21. 38
    genghiz the kahn says:

    Now we know why Red Ed has let Wee Duggie do all his talking.

    Red Ed is so far up Ghaddafi’s arse that all you can see are the soles of his feet.


  22. 40
    cheche says:

    More picks needed to drive it home methinks


  23. 42
    Doc Trough says:

    Is Blair swilling something around in his mouth in that pic?


  24. 45
    Perhaps we do need foil hats says:

    “Centre for the Study of Global Governance.”

    How fucking sinister does that sound!


  25. 47
    Gordon Brown says:

    For all that are intrested, tonight at the Little Chef on the A82 in Dumbarton i will be having a book signing session. Please feel free to bring your copys of Beyond The Crash.

    All is Welcome


  26. 49
    eddyh says:

    Why are you all attacking President Muammar Godawful. Pobody is nerfect.


  27. 50
    DemotED says:

    The Dudley News reporting on Shadow Home Seceretary ED Balls visit to Dudley college yesterday.

    Bollock Ed will not be pleased.



  28. 52
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Mad Dog and Bonkers Brown, what a couple.


  29. 57

    Psst – anyone wanna buy any airplanes? We got some riot control gear too. Shotguns? Baroness Ashton will be along in a minute with some free money that used to belong to British tax-payers with which you can pay for the merchandise.

    Now, better do a bit of pretending to promote democracy.


  30. 60
    Porkie Pie Pickles says:

    Poor Guido… Not a peep about his home countries election. Poor old Irish Tories Finna Fael, about to be trounced. Looks like a Fine Gael/Labour coalition, and to couple that, looks like Gerry Adams will be winning his seat in the Dail. Guido – you gonna give up your irish passport in protest, and become a proper British citizen….LOL


    • 130
      I Remember You Hoo says:

      The FF, FG, and Irish Labour parties are carbon copies of the three main parties here. They all agree on everything except the details of management.
      To pretend as you do, that there is any significant difference between them, is frankly, dishonesty in extremis.
      They all agree on the EU, the need for bank bail outs, staying in the Euro and taxing the working class, to pay for the banking failure, introducing ‘sustainable’ energy or wind farm stupidity, as it is otherwise known ( when they have vast untapped reserves of oil and gas off the west coast worth trillions ) and introducing carbon taxes, which will dissuade people from buying said vast reserves.
      As here in the UK, you could not make the collective idiocy up.


      • 144
        Porkie Pie Pickles says:

        I remember C*oley Too Hoooo.

        errrrr By staurday morning Sein Fein ( IRA ) will have 15 MPs in the Irish parliament. You and Guido gonna make a fuss…..Narrrr didnt think so.


        • 181
          I Remember You Hoo says:

          Lol, it’s called democracy you twit. If the mainstream parties in Ireland or anywhere else, offered any real choice, Sein Fein would whither on the vine.
          That they choose not to offer that choice, means an entirely predictable and avoidable result will occur, as it eventually will here in the UK, for the fringe parties.
          Keep playing pretend politics and denying real choice and watch where it leads to.


  31. 61
    Sir William Waad says:

    So Miliband’s ghost-writer’s institution’s donor’s father is a violent dictator? I’d call that a smoking gun, if it weren’t for the fact that my maid’s cousin’s friend’s hairdresser once met Kim Jong Il’s cousin, or at least somebody who looked like her.


  32. 62
    Taxfodder says:

    And and…..and Miliband’s cat “Tripoli Tom”caught and ate a mouse

    What more evidence does one need!


  33. 66
    SocialGhism says:

    Buth they arth myth thrends… asthk mummthsy!

    (Doth thiff meanth we can’th stay wifth uncthle Gordaffi thith year at this holithay villa?)


  34. 69

    Jacqui ‘masturbate-gate’ Smith no match for Abbott. Sign the petition to get Diane back on This Week! (Don’t worry, it’s not what you think): http://thecurrerball.wordpress.com


    • 81
      The This Week Sofa says:

      What about me? , they get rid of one fucking heffer only to replace it with another. God you should smell their farts as well.


    • 188
      I Remember You Hoo says:

      Sorry, both are repulsive hypocrites and human eyesores, who believe in a political system that denies human freedoms. I would never knowingly, vote for a socialist of any description.


    • 256
      Roger Mellie says:

      Obviously the BBC do not want people choking the chicken to their programmes!


  35. 75
    Gordon Brown says:

    I spoke on TV earlier. Unfortunately I fell off and twisted my ankle.


  36. 84
    Gordon Brown says:

    I was addressing the nation earlier, but I ran out of ink.


  37. 88
    Robin Cook's Ghost says:

    “Foreign policy with an ethical dimension” was a misprint. It should, of course, have been “Foreign policy with an ethnical dimension”.


  38. 94
    Gadafi eh? says:

    What a bastard

    Not a patch on Pinochet, the military dictator it was apparently OK to suck up to.


    • 99
      BillyBob.....beware, the jungle drums!! says:

      Hmmmmmmmmm Beyond New Labour sheep are earning their dosh today !!


    • 103
      Wine buff says:

      I prefer Sauvignon Blanc. Pino Chet is soo last year.


    • 133
      Jabba the Cat says:

      Never had a problem with Pinochet, did Chile a great service by killing Allende.


      • 172
        and along comes a muppet says:

        to prove my point.

        easy to say on the internet, love to hear you praising Thatchers murderous boyfriend to a bunch of Chileans.


        • 196
          I Remember You Hoo says:

          Pinochet was rather small beer when it came to being a tyrant.
          He ended a communist takeover, took out the scum who wanted to destroy freedom and then restored democracy. Only 5,000 commies down in the process.
          No, when it comes to real hardcore bloodthirsty dictators, socialism has him beaten hands down every time. They murder by the millions, why even lefty heart throb Che, killed more than Augusto ever could.


        • 273
          Jabba the Cat says:

          It is also worth remembering that, contrary to liberal leftie folklore, a great many Chileans were very happy to see the back of Allende and his band of communist fellow travellers.


      • 175
        BagPussy says:

        Quite. And had the sense to get someone to do it for him, though.


    • 165
      Phantom says:

      Pinchoet knew what was best for left-wingers.

      Hanging ‘em.

      Considering what our left-wing economic terrorists have achieved in 13 years, that’s too good for them.


    • 209
      The Sleeper says:

      The trolls, the trolls: they’re desperate to play the Thatcher angle some fucking how.


      • 269
        and along comes another muppet says:

        and the right wing apologists on here can (seemingly with no shame) try to make out that 5000 dead and thousands upon thousands tortured is no biggie.

        Same old partisan bullshit, trying to pretend that anything the blue team do is OK because Hitler killed a lot of people is simply disingenuous bullshit.

        Pulling up Red Ed’s moody associate whilst quietly hoping no one notices Dave’s arms delegation is yet more evidence of the irony bypass operation you’ve seemingly all had.

        Group discount was it?

        They’re all Hunts, NuLab, NuBLu and NuClegg, stop suckling at any of their teats you bunch of


        • 284
          The Sleeper says:

          There’s nothing like a lucid and well reasoned counter argument.

          And, yes, that was nothing like one.

          What the fuck are you on about?


  39. 98
    Sandra from Accounts says:

    I think the more information we can get out into the public domain about the Milibands & their friends & their Father the better.

    The British are not stupid – give them the details & they will err on the side of caution & reject this marxist cabal of wanna be tyrants & unionised thugs.

    Lets recap:

    * The Milibands avoided Inheritance Tax on their Marxcist Professor Fathers property & made a seven figure sum out of it – denying the Exchequor the vital funds its needs for “frontline services”

    * Ed Miliband is a solely owned entity of the Unite Union

    * Ed Miliband has a very close family friend & policy maker who until last Friday was very close to the Gaddafi Regime

    * Ed Miliband heads the Labour Party – a political party that is affiliated with the International Socialist movement with Lord Kinnock as its President. They are affiliated to some of the most despotic disctators & brutal regimes the world has ever seen.

    Labour – its not fascist tyranny when they & their friends do it.


    • 105
      BillyBob.....beware, the jungle drums!! says:

      Sandra, I suspect the Beyond New Labour sheep will be earning their dosh, today by rubbishing what you say !!

      Labour will always rewrite history……


      • 151
        Usually right says:

        “My Jewish identity was such a substantial part of my upbringing that it informs what I am” – Ed Milliband


    • 113
      Righty Right Wing (Mrs) says:

      Succinctly put. +1.

      And much more to follow.

      The Miliband family secrets & despicable political & union associations will out.

      No doubt about it – not even the BBC & Guardian can ignore the real story of Ed forever.


      • 117
        BillyBob.....beware, the jungle drums!! says:

        Must be grim in their house !!

        Beeb, Sky and Beeb will ignore it,, they are busy wetting themselves with pleasure, over the blanket coverage they have on Leeeebia !


    • 142
      I Remember You Hoo says:

      +1 the ZaNu comrades hypocrisy knows no boundaries.


    • 164
      Anon says:

      “The British are not stupid – give them the details & they will err on the side of caution & reject this marxist cabal of wanna be tyrants & unionised thugs.”

      Much as I’d like to believe you Sandra, I wouldnt count on it. You’d be amazed at the amount of dumb cnuts there are out there who will vote for these fucking eejits.


      • 194
        Cynical-old-bag says:

        Next week most people will have forgotten about the Militwits background.

        Short memories are good for the Labour Party.


      • 329
        Bri says:

        I Live between Rotherham /Barnsley/Doncaster and who have we got as our MPs “New Cameras” Barron – “Garage” MacShane – “Don’t bend down in the shower” Illsley.
        If it has a red rosette you’re in.

        We want another Maggie.


  40. 100
    Righty Right Wing (Mrs) says:


    That picture of Brown with the geezer in the white suit – Lionel Richie has really let himself go.

    Must be the sapping influence of his close proximity to McDoom.


  41. 115
    Jabba the Cat says:

    Excellent bit of skewering there Guido.


  42. 119
    Engineer says:

    To give the last government some credit (not something I do very often, because they didn’t earn much) they had a fine line to tread with Libya. On the one hand, it’s ruled by a murdering, tyrannical ‘mad dog’ dictator, but on the other hand, it’s bung full of unexploited oil fields. If you want the one (and where are large quantities of oil available from places not controlled by undesirable or dodgy governments?) you have to oil the other.


    • 124
      Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

      “Real politick”


    • 136
      Anonymous says:

      Just listening to a reporter on Sky who is phoning live from the East. What they are finding is horrific. Political prisoners who had just disappeared have been locked underground for years. I do not think that is a fine line and Labour should be ashamed to be associated with the Gaddafi regime.


      • 245
        Engineer says:

        Quite so – I’ve also heard reports that Gaddafi is using heavy weapons and bombs against the rebels, so hardly a nice chap. However, I don’t recall much criticism of the previous government, including from the likes of Amnesty International, during their gradual improving of relations with Libya. There wasn’t much criticism from the right, or right of centre, either, so far as I can recall, with the exception of the release of the Lockerbie Bomber.

        There has to be some latitude when trading with people you don’t much like. If we excluded everyone slightly dodgy, we wouldn’t do much overseas business at all. All I’m saying is that in this case, for pragmatic reasons, the previous government took a line which, with the benefit of hindsight, appears unwise, but was reasonable at the time.


    • 220
      The Sleeper says:

      They crossed the line when they released a mass murderer as a downpayment.

      They are hard on the arse of private companies with the new Bribery Act but it doesn’t seem to apply to government ministers.

      I hope there is a full investigation into some of the extremely dosgy dealings and whether any civil servants/politicians enjoyed personal enrichment.


      • 223
        The Sleeper says:

        dodgy not doggy


        • 266
          Engineer says:

          I’m willing to place a small bet that Libya is not the first unpleasant regime with which a British government – of all stripes – have had dealings. I agree that releasing Ali Basset Whatisname was probably a step too far, but the rest? Not the first, and almost certainly not the last, time we’ve ‘furthered our best interests’ with less-than-perfect leaders.


          • The Sleeper says:

            It’s not who you deal with but how you deal. You don’t have to play by their rules. Let them dig their own oil out and see how good they are. Or get the Italians to do it, of course.


          • The Sleeper says:


            I’m not convinced they spend so much energy selflessly on furthering Britain’s best interests.


          • Engineer says:

            Britain isn’t Top Dog in the world any more, so we don’t have the luxury of dealing on our terms all the time.

            An enquiry might be appropriate at some point. It turned bad, so we need to learn what we could have done better.

            I can’t help feeling that all the sanctimonious comment on this thread has a slight flavour of wisdom in hindsight.


          • The Sleeper says:

            Come off it. There’s been a stink ever since Mehgrahi was released, no hindsight about it.

            You don’t go to that extraordinary amount of effort just in the interests of British trade, knowing they would piss off the yanks big time. I know they rarely lift a finger in the normal course of business, so what was special about this?

            Some serious grease money was sliding around. Maybe we’ll find out sooner than we think, but certainly not through an enquiry.


          • Call me Infidel says:

            When it is all done and dusted I suspect Mandleslime will be at the bottom of it.


  43. 125
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Ed Miliband gets my vote anyday.


    • 127
      BillyBob.....beware, the jungle drums, Labia is revolting!! says:

      You are right Billy, he is very……………working class !! Just what we need, power to the people !! Some of them anyway ……


    • 128
      Michael Holdiing is greatest commentator ever ! says:

      Owzat ??


  44. 126
    BillyBob.....beware, the jungle drums, Labia is revolting!! says:

    You are right, they came into power and promised a moral foreign policy, that is what we got…………. not !


  45. 131
    Mike says:

    Following the Hairy Bikers’ TV programme last week, the UK manufacturer has been inundated with orders for Battenberg cake tins, so that they have had to change their production schedules to meet the demand.

    They have confirmed that we shall receive the first 130 tins on our order tomorrow, Thursday, and the remainder next Tuesday, when they have completed the next production batch. We are ready to send them out immediately they arrive, which we shall do in chronological order, by Royal Mail 1st class. Provided you have have given us you email address, you will receive an automatic despatch email.


  46. 135
    Union Member says:

    how much would it cost to gain back door access to Ed Milliband?


  47. 138

    On topic.

    Professor Held’s introduction to Saif Gaddafi included the following:

    The topic of [Saif’s] thesis was … “The role of civil society in the democratisation of governance (in this case, global governance) institutions.”

    “Saif is committed to resolving contentious international and domestic issues through dialogue, debate and peaceful negotiations.”

    “… I have come to know Saif as someone who looks to democracy, civil society and deep liberal values for the core of his inspiration.”

    With the disappearance of the Special Ralph Miliband event on the LSE website, Held could now go for his fourth degree in the subject of “Instant Historical Revisionism” also known as “EasyGet Negationism.”


  48. 139
    Tony Blair says:

    Hi Mummra. How’s things? What’s that, you want safe passage to a friendly nation? You want to come to Britain? You know I’m not prime minister anymore, don’t you? But look. I’m a pretty straight sort of guy. Just wire me $25m and I’ll see what strings I can pull. I can’t guarantee Britain but maybe some my rich friends in Burma or Saudi Arabia can help you.


  49. 145
    Stalin was nice to his mum (we're told) says:

    Compare and contrast.

    The Milliband’s chums at the ‘Morning Star’

    Monday, 21st February


    Wednesday, 23rd February



    Gaddafi’s ‘Dark Side’ being his relationship to Blair.

    The Socialists are having a bad, bad time.

    Dig, dig, dig.

    Labour’s cupboards are rattling with skeletons.


  50. 150
    I'll have some of that says:

    Oh come on….young Saif’s only trying to help the Big Society along, seems to be working pretty well in Benghazi….any idea where I can get some of these pills his old man’s on about…?


    • 156
      nell says:

      According to gad afi this morning, they’re coming from os ama bin la den and being slipped into young mens coffee.

      I bet if obl is still alive he’ll be laughing up his sleeve at that one!


      • 178
        BillyBob.....beware, the jungle drums, Labia is revolting!! says:

        Does he still have those virginal bodyguards? What about the Ukranian nurse? She was fit !!


  51. 152
    nell says:


    david held is being vilified across the world press today so you can bet militwit will be running round like a headless chicken trying to eliminate any links with him.

    david held introduced saif gad afi at that now infamous ralph miliband lecture with the words ” His foundation devotes itself to humanitarian work, especially in the field of human rights. Deep liberal values are at the core of his inspiration”

    His professorial career may well be coming to an end.


    • 161
      Righty Right Wing (Mrs) says:

      Salutations Nell,

      We wish.

      As we know, the British higher education system is an occupied zone of the leftist elite.

      Just as that lefty fraudster at the centre of the climategate emails is still in his job spreading utter fraud & lies, this monster will remain at Milibands side & pulling down huge wads from the taxpayer for his Professorship.

      Lamp posts & piano wire are too good for these bastards.


      • 339
        helpful serf says:

        On a point of order, we may need to reconsider the lamp-post option. In years gone by lamp-pots had a horizontal beam protruding from them which ancient lamplighters used for propping their ladders against so they could reach the lamp 8 feet above them. However, lamp-posts these days are concrete or aluminium monoliths with no suitable protuberance on which ot attach a length of rope. Alternative suggestions on a postcard to G Fawkes Esq Internetville, Ireland.


    • 173
      Magnetic attraction says:

      What is it that Draws the left to dictators?


      • 176
        nell says:

        Well bliar was reportedly being paid £2million a year to advise the gad afi regime.

        So I guess the answer is money.


        • 195
          Cynical-old-bag says:

          Yes – and power, Nell. Don’t forget that one.


        • 239
          The Sleeper says:

          Drugs, alcohol and Al Queda are at the root of the problem in Libya. But as if drunken cockroaches, druggie dogs and backback bombers are not enough, we now hear that the Libyan people have had the misfortune to have been advised by ex New Labour politicians.


  52. 162
    Gordon Brown says:

    I just did a plop. Whose idea was that?


  53. 167
    Daniel J says:

    The video hasn’t been pulled from the LSE website.

    It’s here: (Scroll down to May 25th 2010)


    The event details haven’t been pulled either. They’re here:



  54. 171
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    No 2AV or the cat gets no milk.


  55. 177
    Double Hit says:

    Sky says the Yanks have arrested a Saudi for trying to make a bomb to blow up George Bush’s home. Could there be another Saudi planning to do the same to Blair?


  56. 182
    Gordon Brown says:

    Hey soldier boy! Sucky sucky only ten dolla. Me love you long time.


    • 253
      Worried of Libya says:

      Wonder what the effect would be if during the upcoming phone hacking trial information regarding Mcbonkers health becomes part of the evidence.


  57. 185
    Polly Toynbee, crusader for human rights says:

    I think what the coalition are doing to Libya is disgraceful. Must dash though. Catching a flight to my Tuscan villa.


    • 225
      UN Office Lampedusa says:

      Bet you think those Tunisians will all end up in Naples, eh Poll.

      Get the spare bedroom(s) ready and the couscous on the boil.


  58. 186
    Ed Miliband says:

    You dirty rotten swine! Ahoo! You deaded my friend David! Eh-heh-heh-heh-heh!


  59. 187
    A wanker from the BBC says:

    As much as we would like to cover this, I’m afraid we haven’t the time as we are still continuing our attack…oops, wee Dougie’s attack, on the Tory-led coalition.


  60. 191
    Socialists = Sociopaths says:

    Your secret’s Saif with me.


  61. 198

    “Lord’ Meghnad Desai was one of the examiners for Saif Gadaffi’s PhD dissertation.

    Desai retired in 2003 as Director of the Centre for the Study of Global Governance, which he founded in 1992 at LSE.


    • 216
      Aesop o'Sardis says:

      Outrageous, Hatfield Girl. Do you mean to imply that British Universities sell PhD degrees to arab lunatic half wits who do f*ck all work and cut and paste their theses and submit them with cheques between the pages? Shocking!

      If people knew that, they would wonder why tuition fees are shooting up and why Vice Chancellors’ pay rises so quickly. Moreover, there might be serious questions about the charitable status of certain Universities.

      Fuck it, it goes on. Perhaps someone might question how Polly Toynbee, privately educated class warrior, got a scholarship to Oxford with one A level (when kids with 5 As get turned down), dropped out and picked up a job as an authority on moral issues with a leading newspaper.

      You are in need of moral realignment. Please get in touch so that I can turn up on your doorstep with brief outlines of my 2 failed PhDs, a bottle of cheeky Chilean Merlot, a bunch of begonias and tumescence that might amuse you for moments. Cynicism is such a turn on – although it is, IMHO, the logical terminus of an active intellect.


  62. 204
    ciaran says:

    further to your article earlier, i attended this “miliband” series event at the lse in november 2009. held hosted as usual and in his introduction noted (half-jokingly) that one of the things he had in common with the speaker slavoj zizek was that they were both “closet stalinists”. audio podcast available here – held’s speaking at the start and the relevant comment is 30 seconds in.


  63. 205
    And do you think that chingrinning dithering cunt Brown would've acted faster? says:



    • 208

      She has had Arabs running her through like the letters in a stick of Brighton rock.


    • 216
      Anonymous says:

      FFS I am getting fed up with the whinging. Libya is being torn apart, civil war a possibility and a few Brits who were there to make loadsa dosh are peeved that the Foreign Office can’t get them on a plane within a couple of hours.


      • 221
      • 228
        grand old duke of says:

        I note theres now army herculessesses doing shuttle flights to malta.

        Before the days out the SAS will be there with a couple of chinooks.


      • 247
        The Sleeper says:

        The company who put them there is responsible for getting them out. In such environments they are supposed to have emergency evacuation plans.

        Still, it’ll save a few bob to get the British taxpayer to bale out these taxdodgers.


      • 252
        Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

        Swim with sharkes ……..


      • 262
        Eeu to me says:

        Get a grip, they have families at home and bank accounts at home so the money comes back to the UK, they may not be home but their money will be, so taxes will be getting paid from money they have earned in Libya by their familes .


        • 268
          Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

          Lets hope they have good insurence , They knew the risks.


        • 289

          Billy comments about the risk/reward aspect have some weight in my view, Eeu. I have often travelled to parts of the world that the FO recommend to avoid. (Insurance is nullified, of course.) I take the responsibility to get myself out of the clag rather than rely on HMG. I have had to do that once or twice before as well so I am not armchair theorising! It is often better to do something pro-active as well rather than wait and have the eyes of the world’s press upon you, which can up the ante rather.


          • Get real... says:

            All the Foreign Office sponsored EFL teacher dollies, for instance.

            “Want to be a better language teacher!
            What are you waiting for ?

            Contact British Council, Tripoli:
            Info.libya@ly.british council.org
            T + 218 (0) 21 484 3164 – 67

            TESOL Jobs in Libya – English Teaching Jobs in Libya
            British agency now recruiting English teachers for Libya

            PTQI (Petroleum Training and Qualifications Institute) is a very successful technical college in Tripoli and is seeking to recruit trained native English-speaking ELT teachers.

            PTQI has an ESOL department and would be interested in employing newly graduated TEFL/TESOL people, commencing September, 2009.


        • 290
          The Sleeper says:

          Not all send it back home, but point taken. As a longtime expat and taxdodger myself I know that the last person you rely on is Carrington of the FO.

          Their employers are responsible for getting them out and should have made provision accordingly. Why can’t they or their insurance company organise a charter rather than sit back silently and expect the government to do it?


          • Lovely self-description, with which I identify ;-)


          • Expat says:

            Quite so – and may I just say (as an expat) that not one penny of what I earn/am paid ever gets with 500 miles of Britain. Same goes for most of my colleagues. What’s ours stays ours and is SFA to do with Mr Sticky Paws at the Treasury or his sister at Customs and Excise.


    • 242
      Cynical-old-bag says:

      People like Sally give the rest of womankind a bad name.

      Time her husband told her to shut-up.


      • 282
        Silly Sally Bigcow says:

        If Gordon had still been prime mincer , he’d have told the Libyans that the Brits all had cancer and they’d have been back in a trice.


    • 332
      HappyUK says:

      She’s had more pricks inside her than a pin cushion.


  64. 207

    Even the M0derator of the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland does not take this long.


  65. 210
    david says:

    At least the Mail knows what today’s real story is.


    Even if Gudio doesn’t. losing ‘yer grip.


  66. 213
    The sound of Silence says:

    Tony Blair, Lord Mandelson and Gordon Brown.


  67. 218
    Kered Ybretsae says:

    Mad Dogs and LSE Professors…go out in the mid-day sun. Luxury Lefties and their hypercritical Guardian friends, have all got this habit as well.


  68. 229
    Gordon Brown says:

    I’d just like to wish the people of New Zealand all the best.


  69. 233
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Guido, Was there a winner of last weeks caption comp?

    Only going to ask this once :-)


  70. 243
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Guido , unless i have missed it , I would have thought Sky News and the BBC would have you exposeing the lies of labour and thier influence live on air? Have they been in touch?


  71. 251
    The Sleeper says:

    Technologically challenged.


  72. 255
    The Beast of Tripolli says:

    At least Al McMental has some style and likes to surround himself with beautiful women
    Ahl go to foot of our stairs Hague has probably never even seen a ladies front bottom


  73. 258
    Smoke 'em out says:

    “David Held’s main research interests include rethinking democracy.”



  74. 259
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    “Out of 14,000 political lobbyists how many have signed up to the new voluntary PAC industry transparency register? 10% 25% 50% 75% 90%?”

    This is going to be good!


  75. 262
    Fuck off politicians and the media, you bastards! says:

    I don’t think any political party has an upper hand in anything anymore.

    Fuck them.

    Revolution now!


  76. 270
    The Sleeper says:

    Mass muurrrrrderrrr in the rain
    What a gloriouuuus refrain
    I’m just murd’rn…and killin’
    In –
    the –


  77. 279
    angelnstar says:


    London Standard backs Boris to deliver his pledge on policing!


    After John Biggs’ disgraceful outburst yesterday at the London Assembly, and the disgusting attempt of the Guardian newspaper to whitewash Biggs’ behaviour – he was nearly forcibly ejected from the London Assembly Chamber – both the BBC News and the London Standard have confirmed the Mayor’s figures.

    OUTRAGEOUS behaviour from Biggs, and he should be kicked out for good!


    • 334
      Do you live in London? says:

      I do and got the standard on the way home

      The article you quite is the editorial comment, another article in the same edition was pretty equivocal about how dubious the Albino Gorilla’s figures are.

      Ken was / is an incompetent tit but Boris is a pantomine dame in a suit, a performing chimp who is still yet to give up his American citizenship (despite announcing loudly that he was going to) despite being the mayor of our nations capital.

      He’s a tit of the highest order and an embarassment to the Tory party.


  78. 280
    FirstDistractTheSheeple says:


    Overall, how satisfied are you with your life nowadays?

    · Overall, how happy did you feel yesterday?

    · Overall, how anxious did you feel yesterday?

    · Overall, to what extent do you feel the things you do in your life are worthwhile?


  79. 299
    SaltPetre says:

    I have no time for these Brits ‘stranded’ in Libya and whinging that they haven’t got their free ticket home at the taxpayer’s expense yet. They chose to live and work in a country they knew was run by a tyrant and oppressed their people. They are there for the money – because they are greedy bastards…they wanted to fill their pockets with blood money. HMG should charge each of them £50k for their repatriation…. and investigate their tax status!


    • 305
      ooer missus says:

      Listen to that limpwristed twat Evan Davies big up the problems of the ex pats, ” they let off some pyrotechnics….ooh we’re scared.” From about 2.05 mins in.



    • 306
      Fog says:

      So, Saltpetre, you believe oil workers, and others working as expats shouldn’t be well paid? Maybe they earn the big bucks because they spend time in places you wouldn’t want to go to. And get the oil out. They don’t get a free ride home.


      • 330
        Saltpetre says:

        I have no problem with them being well paid….just that they expect UK taxpayers to foot the bill for bringing them home. They should accept that they took a risk and stayed in the country too long. They are not very ‘stiff upper lip’ or forgiving of the UK whom they expect will sort out their mess in a matter of hours.


    • 307
      disabled zoophile outreach co ordinator in Croydon (pay grade 4b with London weighting) says:

      Absolutely. Serve them right for acquiring so-called marketable skills and using them to obtain so-called jobs to earn a so-called wage doing something difficult, dangerous and worthwhile and improving the uk’s balance of trade in the process. Gordon’s Britain has no place for these scoundrels.


      • 314
        Anonymous says:

        But that is no reason for them to Whinge Whinge Whinge. They were living there, they had their hand on the pulse and KNEW what was happening in the region. They should have accepted responsibillity for their own welfare and got on a plane last weekend FFS.


  80. 301
    He should be awarded, not charged says:

    A man has been charged with the murder of a convicted child killer in Full Sutton prison. Damien Fowkes, 35, was charged with the murder of Colin Hatch at the prison near York, Humberside Police said. Hatch, 38, of north London, died from strangulation at the prison on Tuesday while serving a life sentence for killing a seven-year-old boy. Fowkes, who is serving a life sentence for robbery, will appear before Beverley Magistrates Court on Friday. He is expected to appear via video-link from prison.


  81. 302
    dave says:

    Be nice if that piece of labour shite, Douglas Alexander, told us about Red Ed’s connection to this.
    I see the BBC has not reported on this issue, only labour spew.
    Is Mandleson still widening the circle of his friends.


  82. 303
    NeverRed says:

    I’m just so pleased that Brown gave the ugliest Baroness in history (Ashton) a plum non job at the EU labour gravy train.
    Now we have more millions to pay for Ashton and 400+ staff for an EU Foreign Office service, they can speak with one voice on behalf of 27 countries and really shake up Gaddafi.
    Unfortunately she hasn’t said a word.


  83. 318
    Cassandrina says:

    What is it about the LSE.
    Plenty of brains but no wisdom.


  84. 324
  85. 331
    HappyUK says:


    “In a rambling appeal for calm on state TV, Gaddafi blamed the revolt on al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden, and said the protesters were fuelled by Nescafe spiked with hallucinogenic drugs.”

    LOL if only. At least we now know the soon-to-be-swinging-from-a-noose Gaddafi’s beverage of choice…


  86. 333
    HappyUK says:

    A retrospectively embarrassing piece by former LSE director Anthony Giddens about his meeting with Gaddafi, from 2007:

    “As one-party states go, Libya is not especially repressive. Gadafy seems genuinely popular…. Will real progress be possible only when Gadafy leaves the scene? I tend to think the opposite. If he is sincere in wanting change, as I think he is, he could play a role in muting conflict that might otherwise arise as modernisation takes hold.”


  87. 335
    Leviathan T. Hobbes says:

    How did Milliband get the nickname ‘Fagin’ in his local constituency party? Was it just general malice, or did it come about as a consequence of some particular episode or incident?


  88. 336
    Testarossa says:

    Of course Gadaffi’s son bought his “degrees”. Anyone else out there managed to get a BSc, MSc and PHd in 4 4 years from a British University. Maybe it took him 5 years as he also popped over to Vienna to get another Masters in between.
    Held should resign. There has always been corruption and cheating in Universities, but this is a total scandal.


  89. 338
    annnnonyperson says:

    Fucking, bastard, shitting hell.

    Shit a brick! What a group of evil turd-munching, vile scumbags.

    By their friends ye shall know them. Too fucking right.


  90. 340
    Time for men of substance says:

    The solution to getting real change in Libyan is obvious – send in Chukka to speak truth unto power. Hopefully, he’d then be shot on the spot by the good Colonel.


  91. 343
    Terrible But True says:

    Labour, Minsters past and present, and certain entities who seem ‘selective’ on what they have done, can do, and are like to further screw up in future, might be wise to bunker down over this subject and related ones.

    Looks like such as Robinson and Neil have wisely scooted for the school holidays again in case called upon to explain the latest offerings of those for whom the BBC runs unvetted PR directly.

    Here’s a fun series to play with as the party and broadcaster dig ever deeper holes backing each other up no matter what (beyond comfy QT slots that can also manage to bomb):



    However those with more critical faculties are wondering why the national whinger is more focussed on those unhappy to be back rather than grateful to be so on the taxpayer’s dime, when one might start to wonder why they were there, doing what and went under whose watch….


    If I didn’t know better, because it would suggest if not confirm a total breakdown in professional standards and commitment to impartiality, I’d say some politicians and their tame media were more interested in petty point scoring above all else.


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