February 10th, 2011

Devine Retribution

Jim Devine has just been found guilty of two counts of false accounting. A real wrong ‘un finally getting justice.

It was Paul Hutcheon at the Herald that got the scoop, The Sunlight Centre who put the boot in:

 

and Krishnan Guru-Murthy who put the final nail in the coffin:

Guido will be down there in four weeks for the sentencing. See you there.


160 Comments

  1. 1
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    gonna get a sore arse Jim :-)

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    • 2
      Anonymous says:

      That Guru-Murthy interview is first class.

      “But…but…that makes you a crook, doesn’t it?”

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      • 14
        a special needs MP says:

        He’s not just a crooked cun’t he’s a thick crooked cun’t.
        I’m surprised his Lawyers didn’t go for diminished responsibility to to him being a fucking cretin. He might get the biggest sentence of the lot, until the next batch is revealed that is. ;-)

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        • 17
          Anonymous says:

          Yeah stupid Hunt admits it on live tv then pleads not guilty. With all the other evidence against him as well.

          And this man was making our laws?

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          • Devine Comedy says:

            I doubt he could make a cup of tea by himself without scalding his face or claiming it on expenses.

            There’s probably a bar in the commons where the dr*nks are served in plastic cups and there are no sharp edges for ‘special’ MPs like him to wait in. Until they are dragged bodily through the aye or nay lobby, then plonked back in the bar out of harms way.

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          • Herman Achille Van Rompuy says:

            No anonymous, this man was not making your laws. I make your laws.

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          • This is small but that is far away says:

            Kinda “Father Jack” type MP’s

            “DRINK…..FECK……GIRLS……EXPENSES!”

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          • Lard Presclott of Bulimia, Bog Seats, Beams,Bellies,Banjos,Punches, Croquet, Pies, Jags 'n' Shags says:

            Yup !!

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          • Porky Pickles and his Fatfuck Fuckwittery says:

            Yup!!

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      • 82
        Dick the Prick says:

        Guru Murthy couldn’t believe his luck – his ghast was flabbered.

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      • 86
        Andy Gray says:

        That one interview encapsulates the Labour Party – stupidity, deceit, self-interest, shamelessness, and Scottishness.

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    • 5
      William Hague says:

      ‘appen that’s not as bad as you think lad, ba goom!

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    • 47
      oink says:

      why does it take another 4 weeks before sentencing????

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      • 54
        Liar Liar Pants on Fire says:

        Now that he has not only been founf guilty of fiddling his expenses but also guilty of lying in court, then I trust the judge will give him a custodial sentence with no discount for coming clean.

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        • 65
          Parro et supra says:

          Bring back public flogging and then hanging for the bastards.

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          • uk Fred says:

            Hanging’s too good for them. Unless it’s done a la William Wallace. Hung, but only until unconcious, taken down, disembowelled, beheaded and quartered. They tend not to die until you’ve cut their heads off, so the disembowelling does cause a bit of a pain in the guts. Mid you, with devine (or Prescott for that matter) you would have two inches of bluber all over the roads and pavements for a considerable distance. Make them suffer!

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      • 74
        the last quango in paris says:

        I suspect Probation need to prepare a pre-sentence report

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      • 97
        South of the M4 says:

        I suspect that it may take him 4 weeks to realise he has been found guilty.

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    • 51
      Scores on the Doors so far says:

      Lord Taylor of Warwick…Guilty
      Eric Illsley…Guity
      David Chaytor…Guilty
      Jim Devine…Guilty

      Only another 647 MPs and 785 lords to go.

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    • 151
      Ole Bailey says:

      Okay, starting from the basic sentence that anything below £17,500 entails a 21 month sentence then that is the suggested miniimum that he will get. Now we add aggravating circumstances such as his lying, his not guilty plea, his blaming his office manager – that must add another 12 months at least. Then we need to take into account :

      The amount involved
      The use to which money was put (spending on the things he bought is more ‘venal’ than on basic necessities)
      Breach of position trust
      The period over which and the persistence with which the fraud was carried out
      Any Voluntary repayments (none apparantly)
      Personal factors such as illness, disability, family difficulties, etc

      All of which add more to the sentence. Mildly putting it -there is no way at all that he is NOT going to prison. In R v Kefford (Mark James) [2002] 2 Cr. App. R. (S.) 106 Kefford had no previous convictions and the moment the fraud was uncovered he made a full confession and sold his house to repay the money yet he still attracted a 4 month jail sentence.

      My guess is that Devine is probably looking at a 24 month sentence, given the betrayal of public trust and abuse of position and may serve 10 months if he repays all the cash or complies with Proceeds of Crime Act, before being relesed on Home Detention Curfew (tag). Everything now depends really upon the probation service’s pre sentence report and then I suspect it’s time for Sunny Jim to learn how to pick the soap up without exciting the John Hirst’s of the prison system.

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  2. 3
    Anonymous says:

    Silly twat deserves an extra 12 months for pleading not guilty.

    Who was advising him on that ??

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  3. 4
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Sorry to be a pain Guido , But when is Lord Taylor getting sentenced?

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  4. 6
    Jim Devine's shelves says:

    My shelves will creaking under the weight of all the vasaline

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  5. 7
    Anonymous says:

    Would you like to comment, Mr Tom Watson?

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  6. 8
    annnnoyperson says:

    Good. Couldn’t have happened to a more deserving person! Trying to blame his secretary was pure evil. I hope they take that into consideration. And double his jail time.

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  7. 12
    Aesop o'Sardis says:

    Excellent result. Let us hope that MacShane – and those he grassed up – are feeling very uncomfortable at the news. Let us also hope that the prosecutors are encouraged to make progress on the files of many others. This delicious saga will run and run.

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  8. 13
    Oldrightie says:

    Once a thick, ignorant thief, always one. labour, don’t you just love how thick they are. This was an MP.

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  9. 15
    Spank Sinatra says:

    What a great day – rejoice across the land! It’s one thing to have an elected oaf representing a constituency but to have a thieving, lying, crooked, corrupt, conniving and finally convicted oaf is quite another. Oh how the mighty have fallen!

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  10. 16
    Labour says:

    We are a party of honesty!

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  11. 19
    Disenfranchised of Buckingham says:

    But they still vote for them

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  12. 20
    Anonymous says:

    The right result – but the judge is waiting on the pre sentence report before indicating what sennence Devine gets.

    In other words – Devine will get off on a ‘too stupid to incarcerate in the prison system’ excuse.

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    • 23
      Anonymous says:

      Think not. His crimes were pretty sneaky, and so were his efforts to cover it up, including trying to implicate innocent staff.

      With that and his obviously ridiculous not guilty plea, I would expect a Chaytor x 2

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      • 33
        the last quango in paris says:

        hes lost his credit for a guilty plea ….

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      • 35
        Anonymous says:

        They should double the sentence anyway for being Scottish.

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        • 46
          Postlethwaite says:

          No, no. Rather than put him in a warm heated nice prison, let him out and house him in a kennel – so for example he can put up with the snow we had a couple of days ago. And the sub, sub zero temperatures. Minus 19 centigrade in December.

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        • 153
          Anonymous says:

          He will be treated like a hero in Scotland-shows how pig shit thick these people are!

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  13. 22
    Hugh Janus says:

    Brillo is indeed kicking the odious Hirst on the Daily Politics…..

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  14. 26
    Gordon Brown says:

    i am going to make sure there is enough cottage cheese for everybody

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  15. 28
    Old Lag says:

    I would suggest Jim Devine starts wearing old fashioned swimming trunks with a sturdy cord

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  16. 29
    Tom Kharder says:

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    • 68
      ONINEMBA says:

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  17. 30
    Spank Sinatra says:

    I just had to watch that video again………a classic.

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  18. 37
    Anonymous says:

    Since about half of the (past?) crop of MPs were on the take, why not gaol them all in one of the remaining H Blocks at HMP Maze? Give them effective control of the block, as was traditional – it’d be like Lord of the Flies with sex n drugs thrown in…

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  19. 39
    Hugh S says:

    The scene: A cell in HMP Slade.
    Characters: Fletcher (Eric Illsley), Godber (David Chaytor) The scottish one (Jim Devine).

    Illsley: Right mates, votes for prisoners – are we for it or against it?

    Chaytor: I can’t see the point myself. What difference are a few votes from prisoners going to make? There’s only three of us!

    Devine: Don’t be so naive, Godber, haven’t you learned anything after 30 years in the labour party? Haven’t you heard of prison overcrowding?

    Chaytor: How do you mean, Jim?

    Illsley: Look, all we have to do is phone up the electoral commission and say there are 12 of us living in each cell – make up some names – ‘Aitken’ will do.

    Devine: They’ll never come in here and check. Jenny Watson is an old friend. If we pull this trick for every cell, that should be enough to swing the Slade consitituency in our favour!

    Chaytor: Oh yeah – and then we can start the campaign for more early releases!

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  20. 42
    Catflap says:

    See,Jim Devine is the sort of twat you get when you only pay peanuts.
    You want really big weapons grade Cu*ts you have to pay more.

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  21. 43
    streamfisher says:

    Prison services better keep an eye on the number of postal votes being sent out from Wandsworth come the by-election.

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  22. 45
    Steve Miliband says:

    ”channel4news We’re putting together a nationwide snapshot of govt cuts. Tell us about cuts in your area: libraries, pools, leisure centres. #c4news ”

    Surely Mr Channel 4 news it is the local councils that are making the cuts?

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    • 50
      Billy Millibongo says:

      in new zealand??

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    • 56
      oink says:

      yes

      and as a political expediency they ARE cutting front line services in order to keep the directors and CEOs in the privilege they think they deserve – bastards the lot of them

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    • 57
      streamfisher says:

      Funny, all the facilities I used in my local area shut down under the last Labour government: the Pub, the Library and the Post office.

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      • 66
        Hamish Macbeth says:

        Excellent point !!!
        Spot on Streamfisher !!

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      • 70
        Hamish Macbeth says:

        All our pubs have gone..
        The post offices have gone…
        The corner shops and small shops have gone and Co-op/Tesco expresses abound.

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      • 78
        the last quango in paris says:

        and Woolworths

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      • 80
        Mike Hunt says:

        But they made the pubs so much nicer with the smoking ban, and supported the Post Offices removing their TV Licensing business and allowing car tax on-line.

        Rural churches are not affected by this but the urban ones have been decimated by all the immigrants with their different types of ‘religion’

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      • 110
        South of the M4 says:

        Indeed. The very party that wanted us to understand that the growth of the internet meant less people were using post offices, now deny that the very same reason may also impact libraries. Strange.

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      • 127
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  23. 49
    Anonymous says:

    The Money was just resting in MY account ‘Yeah right

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  24. 52
    The Lib Dem Guerrilla War Begins says:

    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world

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  25. 58
    obangobang says:

    Is this the new “West Lothian Question”:

    Just how thick, crooked, dishonest and utterly disreputable do you have to be to become a Labour Party parliamentary candidate for Livingston?

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    • 67
      Gerry Mandering says:

      If ever there was a case for separation from the celtic hangers-on this is it.

      An Independent England now.

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      • 73
        Anonymous says:

        Yes, yes, yes!

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      • 103
        Where are Tony Blair's Expenses says:

        Lets rebuild Hadrian’s Wall to keep them all out. As soon as someone gives the word I will do my bit for the Big Society and give my time foc to help.

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        • 117
          Making plans for Nigel says:

          Rebuilding the wall. Have you considered the costs of transporting all that stone from New Zealand. Surely prohibitive mate

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        • 137
          Anonymous says:

          “rebuild Hadrians wall” = bad idea; too many of them would be locked in to the south side of it.

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          • S Sock says:

            Less of that. I’m naturalised English now. Last but one time I went up to Scotland, some Huhne wanted to pick a fight with me because “We shidnae be servin thae Inglish in oor Scoattish pubs”

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      • 112
        Stupid pricks can't see the wood for the trees says:

        Yes an Independent England wooo hoooo Chator, and Illsley woo hoooo, Lord Taylor…yehaaa, have Mandleson as your PM or maybe even Two Jags, yes now that the evil Scots have gone there is no holding you back Englishman,!!!

        Jackboots jackie, Tessa Jowel blundering Blunket, Jack straw, Ed freaking Balls oh your English talent pool is truly exceptional…….Prick!

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      • 115
        Making plans for Nigel says:

        From New Zealand ?

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    • 69
      Last mango in Harris says:

      They would vote for a dog shite in Livingston if it had a red rosette stuck in it.

      Mr Devine proves the point.

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      • 128
        obangobang says:

        They “would” for dog shite?

        You mean they DID vote for dog shite, and hopefully it will stick to their shoes and follow them around like the bad smell he is, for a very long time.

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  26. 60
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    RIP Trevor Bailey.

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  27. 64
    Penfold says:

    Gotcha. ;-)

    But, frankly he was such a sitting duck of a target, it was almost criminal to take aim and bring him down.
    Regrettably he doesn’t serve as a role model for the “pour encourager les autres”.
    When does he stand down? and provoke a bi, and will he collect his golden parachute?

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  28. 71
    • 83
      Anonymous says:

      Should have done what Honest Tom Watson did and refer all expenses enquiries from colleagues to the fee’s office.

      Give colleagues advice on scamming ? No sir, not me, sir. The very idea.

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    • 107
      Where are Tony Blair's Expenses says:

      Ruth Kelly next. All someone needs to do is ask her why she didn’t get an insurance assessor in to review the water damage to her property – he might just have picked up there wasn’t any !

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  29. 76
    Cato Street Conspirator says:

    Take the fucker down.

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  30. 79
    Ungern Sternberg says:

    He’ll have drunk himself to death before he can be sentenced.

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  31. 81
    Taxfodder says:

    Lags may not get the vote but from what I’ve seen they aren’t missing much, however “result” if they feel ignored they can let him know first hand “or boot” how they feel about it.

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  32. 84
    Eddie Monsoon says:

    ‘Disgraced former Labour MP Jim Devine has failed to pay his ex-office manager Marion Kinley any money despite an employment tribunal Judge ordering compensation of £35,000 due to her winning a case of constructive dismissal against the former Livingston Labour MP.
    Solicitors working on behalf of Marion Kinley are now stepping up the pressure in the hope that they can secure her financial settlement by blocking any sale of Devine’s house’.

    Any more on this story about the thieving git ? or any thing on the BBC
    about the BBC college of journalisms blogger F Foxy’s involvement =

    The Employment tribunal heard how the former Scottish Labour MP got his friend Fiona Fox to call his ex-office manager Ms Kinley under the pretence of being a reporter.
    Miss Kinley said of the hoax phone call: “The message is still on my phone. A woman said she was a freelance reporter for the Sunday Telegraph, and she was doing a big piece on MPs’ expenses, in particular on Jim Devine’s secretary.”
    Miss Kinley realised the call was a set-up when she came across an email from Fox to Devine, which read: “Your secretary called me back and then put the phone down – hope you’ve put her out of her misery – remind me never to work for you!!”
    nAHHHHHH

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    • 89
      Anonymous says:

      Would’ve thought him selling his house was what she wanted?

      She can get the court to put a charge on it for her money, then when it sells she’s high up the queue.

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    • 114
      Making plans for Nigel says:

      Tell me eddie why is it when folk post about Chator or Illsley that they don’t say “former English” MPs?

      You lot can’t handle the truth can you ?

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      • 130
        Eddie Monsoon says:

        Sorry what? what has the word ‘former’ got to do with owt a criminal is a criminal ? so OK using your logic ??? lol then I just robbed a bank but it was 10 mins ago! so now I’m a former bank robber and cannot be touched !!

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  33. 85
    Observer says:

    Which MPs will be voting in the Commons today for Devine and other criminals to have the vote at elections even if jailed?

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    • 88
      Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

      Doesnt matter , The EU have spoken .

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      • 91
        Anonymous says:

        Yes, exactly. Charade, anyone?

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        • 94
          Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

          Now if Dave had some Balls , He would tell them to fuck right off!

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          • Anonymous says:

            He doesn’t want to. And even if he did, he wouldn’t. Whether he feels physically ill, or not.

            BTW – do we really want our PM’s to be so squeamish?

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          • Rumpy pumpy says:

            Billy Billy don’t be daft the EU has bought and paid for Britain with our own money,it’s biding it’s time awaiting the populations brainwashing to be finished and then the French and Germans can march their troops down Whitehall,as they always wanted to.

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          • uk Fred says:

            Come on, Rumpy P.

            You know that the French would never march their troops down Whitehall. the main centre of military production in France makes white flags.

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        • 98
          Rumpy pumpy says:

          I’m in charge.

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          • ho hum says:

            In that case, please tell these knuckleheads above that the the European Convention on Human Rights has SFA to do with the EU. Thanks.

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  34. 108
    Desperate Dan says:

    The only thing that can be aid in his favour is that he’s not a very good liar.

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  35. 109
    Tom Tomos says:

    “Marked you how grandly – how relentlessly – the damning catalogue of crime strode on, till Retribution, like a poisèd hawk, came swooping down upon the Wrong-Doer? Oh, it was terrible!”

    Patience Act 2 Scene 1.

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  36. 118
    Anonymous says:

    3.5 years I predict.

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  37. 119

    Three and a half years, I predict.

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    • 134
      I hate New Labour says:

      Less than that I bet.

      And why have only a mere handful been prosecuted? To appease the stupid masses I bet.

      What about Jacqui Clarke never seen at her ‘main residence’, Phil Woolas (living at parents’ house), Blair and his ‘shredded receipts’? And there’s more of course.

      Just a disgrace.

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  38. 121
    The White Eared Elephant. says:

    A decent and honourable politician sent down for a technical error.

    That’s supposed to be justice.

    It’s a joke.

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    • 146
      uk Fred says:

      You must be talking about Jonathan Aitken.

      I would not classify any of those in the current batches being processed through the courts as decent or honourable.

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  39. 131
    SpunkyMonkey says:

    Let’s not forget his other character flaws, which we campaigning against him were not allowed to mention on the doorstep. Drunk driving conviction(5 year ban); allegations of spousal assault; and a gambling addiction.

    Representing a constituency without an horse-racing course, he twice championed the rights of on-course bookies in parliament.

    He was enthusiastically supported by the then Labour council leader, Graeme Morrice, now representing Devine’s constituency; you really have to question our current MP’s judgement.

    The guy was a wrong ‘un: we warned the voters of Livingston; but stick a Labour rosette on a red-arsed baboon and they’ll vote for it in the central Scotland belt.

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  40. 135
    the money shot says:

    how did he get the job—with robin cook mp

    his excuses were schoolboy–pleading not guilty???

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    • 140
      SpunkyMonkey says:

      He was Cook’s bag carrier, bookies runner,chauffeur and all night drinking buddy, funnily enough. When Cook went to the great debating chamber in the sky, it was merely a question of ‘Buggins turn at the trough’- so incestuous is Labour in West Lothian; and so it is with the currently elected MP.

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      • 145
        robbie says:

        Couldn’t agree more – a total embarressment to anyone living in that area- the kind of whining, moaning, over-weight, expenses fiddling so-called “man o- the people” walking cardiac-case buerk that litters the whole of Scottish politics from John o Groats to Mull of Galloway. All approved by Gordo of course because no-one was supposed to look more intelligent than him and Dougie Alexander….

        …and explains why Iain Gray is their parliamentary leader in Scotland….. :-o (dear o dear)

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  41. 148
    Anonymous says:

    Blaming everyone except himself & refusing to accept any responsibility for his actions/decisions.

    I think that he’s probably going to need protection when he’s gaoled, and possibly after he gets out…

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  42. 150
    Kered Ybretsae says:

    I was advised to move my stationary money to the stationery cupboard. The cupboard was full of brown envelopes full of receipts. But it is unacceptable to suggest that any of the receipts were written out by myself or by any person in my employ.
    Having listened to this interview, it is amazing that a guy like this was actually an MP:

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    • 155
      Anonymous says:

      Not amazing if you actually live here and know the types of people who vote labour. The general standard of voters intelligence here is definitely third world.

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      • 157
        SpunkyMonkey says:

        You’re right. Livingston is very sectarian, created as a result of the Glasgow Clearances i.e. they knocked down the slums and had to have somewhere to put them.
        The majority voting in Livingston and surrounding areas are orange men(extremist protestants often seen marching in sashes and bowler hats); yet Labour has such a pull on the limited Neanderthal West Lothian intelligence. They still voted for a corrupt, alcoholic, allegedly wife-beating, banned driver and gambling addicted catholic, rather than the fragrant SNP candidate, whose husband is a descendant of John Knox himself.

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  43. 158
    MB. says:

    The Sunday Mail (Scottish Sunday paper in the Mirror group) has this story today.

    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sunday-mail/2011/02/13/shamed-mp-jim-devine-s-aide-tells-all-the-booze-smears-bets-and-fiddles-86908-22920316/

    Shamed MP Jim Devine’s aide tells all – the booze, smears, bets and fiddles

    Feb 13 2011

    EXPENSES cheat MP Jim Devine is today exposed as a foul-mouthed bully who tried desperately to hide his boozing and gambling from voters.

    Former aide Marion Kinley – who Devine tried to smear with hints of an affair and claims of a vendetta against him – breaks her silence to reveal the truth about the disgraced politician. Devine faces jail after being convicted last week of fiddling his Westminster expenses…………….

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  44. 159
    MB. says:

    The Sunday Mail has really turned against Devine!

    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2011/02/13/public-money-was-used-for-jim-devine-to-fly-to-celtic-games-aide-reveals-86908-22920461/

    Public money was used by Jim Devine to fly to Celtic games, aide reveals

    Feb 13 2011

    JIM DEVINE used public money to fund flights to see Celtic play in the Champions League – by claiming he was on constituency business………………

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  45. 160
    MB. says:

    The Glasgow Herald has joined in

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/politics/printing-firm-faces-questions-about-work-for-labour-mps-1.1084925

    Printing firm faces questions about work for Labour MPs

    13 Feb 2011

    A printing firm that provided Jim Devine with invoices for jobs never carried out is facing questions about its work for other Labour MPs.

    John Wilson, an SNP MSP for Central Scotland, has called for an investigation into the links between Armstrong Printing Ltd and Scottish Labour.

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