February 10th, 2011

David Davis is the Comeback Kid

David Davis together with wily old Jack Straw has led a backbench campaign to block votes-for-prisoners. After Basher’s impulsive walk-out over civil liberties he was written-off, his political romance with Shami Chakrabarti looked a little silly and was the subject of much derision. With this successful campaign – MPs voted 234 to the ayes, 22 against – he has won over people and many Conservatives will be re-appraising him. And Shami, well that political infatuation will have come to an end. Liberty campaigned for votes-for-prisoners…


  1. 1
    Tom Tomos says:

    Floreat florebit, David!

    • 18
      La la la says:

      If Davis tried to produce a dagger it would be a rubber one.

      • 34
        Anonymous says:

        That would be sufficient to pierce Dave’s spine.

      • 35
        Lord Mandelbum of Fondleboys says:

        There’s nothing stopping Davis now, except for his personality and everyone who’s ever met him (excluding Mrs. Davis, though I’m not sure of that even).

    • 26
      Win Win says:

      I suspect Dave Cam is not too unhappy about this, quite the opposite infact. At long last he has a strong argument to withdraw Britain fro the rule of the ECHR and appoint our supreme court as our supreme court.

      A win win all round methinks (except for the wishy washy Liberals)

      • 33
        A ? says:

        The Blackshirts do something to upset the New Order in Europe,,,, ha ha ha,Ho Ho Ho,

        • 41
          Labour, The United Kingdoms SOCIALIST party says:

          But we’re not in power?

          • Anonymous says:

            will be sooner than you think though

          • Gordon Brown says:

            I was thinking…maybe in 50 years time people will have forgotten the shambolic ruin i left behind.

          • Bliar was a lying shit, Brown was a disaster says:

            They don’t talk about IDS or Michael Howard you cretin because they never did anything memorable. But EVERYONE remembers McBust and his insanity and everyone I know hates the tosser.

      • 36
        Anonymous says:

        No, Dave did promise that in his manifesto. It’s obviously a lot easier to move away from the ECHR than it is to move away from the EU and I reckon this will be the meat that he will throw to his Conservative MPs.

        Dave like Nick has to give his party something. Nick will get AV and Dave will restore British law to Britain.

        • 69
          Eeu to me says:

          I thought that membership of the ECHR was an absolute part of the EU and coming out of that was tantamount to leaving the EU,they wont let Britain leave as a payer in, they need us more than we need them so the usual compromise will be on offer,plenty of bribes and backhanders will no doubt be available,new simming pools to us plebs,well Iam hoping we leave but I’d have a better chance of winning the lottery,if I did it .

        • 110
          Mike Hunt says:

          Not when they tell us to do things that are just simply wrong.

          Two words are being sent to the Cunts – Fuck Off.

        • 212
          Treat(y) Me Right says:

          Eeu, you are right. Membership of the ECHR is part and parcel of being in the Council of Europe. However, there is no obligation on any member to sign up to and then bring into its law each and every provision of the ECHR. There is nothing stopping the UK from “denouncing” any particular Article, so all we have to do is get Parliament to undo the Statutory Instrument (or whatever legal instrument was used to bring it into UK law) and then tell the Depository (ie the country who hold the original Convention document) that we will no longer abide by that particular Article. Piece of cake really – all we need is somebody to draft the appropriate documentation and get Parliament to approve the change(s).

        • 214
          Treat(y) Me Right says:

          PS: The ECHR has nothing whatever to do with the EU. The EU and the Council of Europe are unconnected organisations.

      • 229
        Cherie's handbag says says:

        Tony will have to work harder now to pay for my ugly pills

    • 246

      We have the wrong Prime-Ministers.

  2. 2
    Southern Softy says:

    You would have thought Shami would be on QT tonight.
    Chance missed by the Beeboids.

    • 77
      Eeu to me says:

      A has been on a has been sort of political show,who’s worth as a show worth watching long gone and now filled with lefty bias,with has beens pretending they know what crap they are spouting about,with a room full of lefties pretending they are the tiger and thinking the politicos will action all the words they say and the world will be watching and they dreaming they will have 5 seconds of fame on tv with their family saying did you see our Fred,nah not tonight,I think their’s a proggy on paint drying on sat,they are going to show how a second coat dries.

      • 142
        ichabod says:

        Well QT may be a ‘has been’ sort of show, well not may be, it IS a has been sort of show, but at least it did have quality once, whilst the Channel 4 10.00 pm show on tonight ( as I type) is a ‘never will be’ sort of programme. God what utter utter crap; it’s pathetic. That smug, stuttering D. Mitchell with his inept interviews, Lauren something or other a casting couch cliche ridden thick northener, and..oh I cant go on, its not funny, its not intelligent, it’s lazy and self righteous, and really very creepy. And the audience… where do they find these perennial adolescents, these easy to please trend bound inadequates. Watch and weep.

        • 155
          Susie says:

          Or follow my advice and don’t watch either one of this biased crap, don’t waste your beautiful minds on bad rubbish and smile.

        • 216
          Bliar was a lying shit, Brown was a disaster says:

          Nah, just don’t watch shite, that’s all.

  3. 3
    Ratsniffer says:

    DD would make a great PM. Man of the people – ex grammar boy – he could bat away nasty labour ranting about tory toffs. Plus, perhaps he has his finger more on the pulse of what most people think and want.

    • 8
      Grumpy Old Man says:

      Good plotter. No killer instinct. Chokes under pressure. Would do well as a No2 to a proper conservative. Shame.

    • 52
      c.eng says:

      I’m with you Ratsniffer.

      What we got in Wavey Davey was the heir to Blair, which is one of the few things he was truthful about.

      David Davis is conservative by persuasion, without the need to inherit half of Lincolnshire to decide his politics.

      Hope he goes from strength to strength.

      • 179
        Madme Defarge says:

        I have always thought David Davis was the better candidate in the leadership campaign. He has as Ratsniffer has pointed out the right credentials to appeal to the electorate. I thought his civil liberties gig a bit bizarre even though I believe the attack on our civil liberties is one of the biggest issues of our time.

        Of course this vote is just the beginning. What exactly is Europe going to do if we disobey? Invade us? Throw us out? I think not.

        I am also waiting for the Irish to start playing up against Europe. The upcoming election will be the start and then they can join us on the naughty step as they have nothing to lose and as Mr Dylan said: “If you ain’t got nothing, you ain’t got nothing to lose”.

      • 252
        arse bandit says:

        no chance.

        he’s got a pair and the upper echelons of the conservative party are reserved for boarding school bumboys

    • 102
      Anonymous says:

      You never see him and Julian Assange’s dad together.

    • 258
      Call me Dave says:

      Sure, that’s why they chose me instead!

  4. 4
    Ken Clarke, the criminals friend says:

    This is a non-issue, because no-one should be in prison in the first place.

    N’er-do-wells are merely boisterous little scamps, that’s all! Chortle chortle, ho ho ho.

    • 45
      Tony Blair's TV Burp Gold 3 says:

      See you down at Ronnie’s later, Ken. If only the little people could learn how to see the world looks through the eyes and ears of a high-flyer.

    • 88
      Cynical-old-bag says:

      Yes, Ken. They probably are, which is why I think they all ought to do their Community Service at your house.

      Let’s see how much you like the boisterous little scamps then.

      • 261
        uk Fred says:

        Ken Clarke needs to read the blog by Winston Smith 33. I know he is a lawyer, but even a lawyer might learn something, if they open their mind.

  5. 5
    nell says:

    Well he might make a good replacement, at the next reshuffle, for our Ken who hasn’t been as impressive as expected.

    • 7
      Tessa Tickles says:

      He’d make a good replacement for Dave Cameron, who has been as unimpressive as we feared.

    • 14
      Bob the Builder (just back from providing the ladder for Squeaker) says:

      Our Ken is a total Alastair Campbell if you see what I mean

      Just look at that ravaged face…

    • 23
      Anonymous says:

      For once Dave isn’t lying.

    • 32
      Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

      This may be true but it will lose him votes if he doesn’t grow a pair and soon.

    • 54
      c.eng says:

      Who thought Clarke would be impressive. He’s always been a disaster and that’s apart from his lifetime love affairs with trad jazz, suede shoes and the EU.

      The decision to take the buffoon on told us all we needed to know about Call me Dave and his brand of Conservatism.

      No wonder CMD’s hero is Harold MacMillan, yet another public school tie twerp and compromiser of the first order.

      • 59
        La la la says:

        Oh do grow up. Little Englander/Labours wet dream.

        • 220
          Bliar was a lying shit, Brown was a disaster says:

          Little Englander?

          That’s right, anyone who wants freedom and accountable democracy needs insulting. Bravo! Closet racists is another good one too.

      • 72
        Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

        Clarke was a good Chancellor – streets ahead of Brown. On other matters though he has been less than impressive. He seems totally in thrall to the EU and has views on justice that belong in the beard and sandals wing of the Lib Dems

        • 82
          c.eng says:

          I think if you study his record as chancellor, what made him stand out was his lack of activity and the fact that he did nothing of significance.

          Lawson and Lamont had already done the heavy lifting.

          Ken just shuffled on down in his hush puppies, playing with his tenor sax, convinced that New Orleans Jazz originated in the Le Mans area.

        • 83
          ichabod says:

          Really the most successful Chancellor since the war, though perhaps the competition isn’t as intense as it should have been.

        • 84
          Old geezer says:

          He could have been a disaster, and would still be streets ahead of Brown!

          • c.eng says:

            This is true. Could anyone anywhere have been worse.

            But don’t forget, while the going was good,

            the concensus was (including the Daily Mail’s) that Ruin was the greatest chancellor that ever lived.

          • Ed Balls says:

            “Could anyone anywhere have been worse.”

            Allow me to introduce myself..

          • Pongo says:

            … i’m a man of w-w-w-wealth and w-w-w-waste

  6. 6
    D Boyd says:

    YAY! Another also ran returns from the dead

  7. 9
    Observer says:

    Time to get out of ECHR.

  8. 10
    Johnny Tentpole says:

    DD has served his penance and should be welcomed back into the fray.

  9. 11
    Lord Envious of Avarice says:

    So a person has a postal vote and goes to prison.
    His wife takes it in a visit and the prisoner fills it in.
    She takes it out and posts it!

  10. 12
    south east voter says:

    that will show them criminals vote to stop criminals voting

  11. 14
    Lomax says:

    I thought there 650 odd mps? If so, where were the other 400 lazy fookers, unless they all abstained.

    • 87
      Old geezer says:

      They should be in the slammer

    • 100
      South of the M4 says:

      Yep. This was an occasion for a 3 line whip to ensure the whole house voted. If Dave had been serious about standing up to Brussels he would have instructed so. Clearly he is not.

  12. 16
    Labour says:

    John Hirst has just the kind of interpersonal qualities we’re looking for in prospective candidates.

  13. 17
    D Boyd says:

    Looking after their duck ponds and moats I expect

  14. 20
    Christy says:

    Wavy Davy will stitch up a deal with the euro lot.

  15. 22
    Anoneumouse says:

    Elephant in the room

    Article 6 of the Lisbon Treaty

  16. 24
    Bobby says:

    Jack Straw can sure spot a band wagon … why did he not do anything about this when he was in the cabinet? He’s always at the scene of the crime but never seems to get nicked.

  17. 27
    Billy Blofeld says:

    Talking of prisons………..

    ….. wouldn’t it be nice if all the criminal Labour MP’s were locked up at HMP Bullingdon


  18. 28
    So wet he's got waterlillies sprouting from his arse says:

    It’s ok chaps, don’t worry! We don’t need to give prisoners the vote because soon there will be no one in prison! hey I’m off to listen to some jazz now.. Eddie “fingerman” Brubagger and the Streetcar Scats! Toodle pip!

  19. 30
    Well done Radio 4 says:

    Can’t remember tonight’s new Radio 4 comedian’s name. But feel compelled to post that this is now 2 weeks on the trot that I have found the 6.30 comedy spot extremely funny, witty yet politically neutral. There is a life after lenny Henry and Marcus brigstocke after all

    • 47
      stun says:

      Tom Wrigglesworth’s Open Letters? Quite amusing, and, as you say, apolitical, relying on the frustrations many find in normal life.

      Funny thing is, tonight’s episode was all about the utility companies and being put on hold, trying to change account details etc. All 30 minutes of the programme. Radio 4′s description of it?

      “In episode two, Tom muses on just how the bankers keep getting away with it.”

      • 55
        Bullshit says:

        But wasn’t he so astute?

        I have found myself in the same situation with the government OFs and the private Utilities but I thought I was alone in my personal frustrations. That’s how they made me feel.

        Good on Tom Wrigglesworth, he can see the wood for the trees and describe it

      • 138
        Anonymous says:

        iplayer says this: ‘Comic Tom Wrigglesworth investigates the myriad ways we are ripped off in modern Britain’

  20. 31
    Anonymous says:

    Davis has chosen his battleground well – fight against foreign ruling, get HoC vote supporting hs stance, and if votes for convicts is (re)imposed, he has generated an in/out referendum issue that many non-politically minded voters are likely to agree with.

  21. 37
    FFS! says:

    Anyone but Cameron and the fake Conservatives… So many to choose from…

    Go on fawkes, pin your colours on a mast for once in your god damned sorry life. You’re just a media whore, just like the ‘press’ but younger and even more deluded.

  22. 40
    Ruddy sauce says:

    And Rowan lofty leftie liberal Williams has shown his true colours once again – he may be a Christian but I want to slap him

    • 43
      Grumpy Old Man says:

      He is a Druid -feel free.

      • 57
        FFS! says:

        He is a ‘David’ too.

        An extra slap from me.

        ps. which part of the PMs remit means he can’t say NO to foreign powers, of any type?


      • 101
        Devil's Handcart says:

        Isn’t there a religious test for Druids. Up ended for five minutes in a vat of newly blessed Marmsey or something.

        If surviving they are obviously Druid’s and must be put to death, if they drown they are innocent and may be declared martyrs.

    • 64
      Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

      Rowan Williams is a symbol of the CoE generally – woolly minded, wishy washy and incapable of taking a firm moral stance on anything. Much as I despise the Catholic church and Islam they at least appear to have a point as a religion as they impose moral codes on their followers.

      The CoE is little more than a social club for the middle classes who don’t like pubs and the leaders appear to do little more than sit around wringing their hands and bleating “Isn’t society/business/youth of today etc terrible?”

      It will become increasingly irrelevant as an institution

    • 89
      ichabod says:

      What’s he done now ? I wish these Anglican clerics would stick to opining on religious matters, instead of wandering into the political world, after all it’s very patronising and arrogant to assume that non anglicans ( whether RC’s, or Jews, or mozzies or Hindus or the unbelievers) want the bishops to speak for them. Chuck it beardie, whatever it was…

    • 148
      AC1 says:

      Rowan is the part of CoE who doesn’t believe in God.

  23. 42
    bird with small brain says:

    As the vast majority of prisoners are not the slightest bit interested in voting, or so I’m told, giving them voting rights would not be giving them anything they valued, so it’s not something that concerns me unduly. If they were being given something valuable to them, then I might get more concerned. Not highly principled perhaps, but there you go ….

    • 49
      Tony Blair's TV Burp Gold 3 says:

      Eroding a distinction between a con serving a sentence and the rest of the pop’n IS something that matters – maybe not to distant friends of Jazzy Ken, but you can be sure the political perverts will be lusting for social depravity fuelled by such a move.

      • 60
        bird with small brain says:

        Ok. Perhaps I ought to mind. I’m actually just hanging around with BBC news waiting to see if Mubarak is about to resign. That WILL be significant.

    • 51
      Anonymous says:

      If it was significant Dave would have no opinion.

  24. 48
    Paul Marks says:

    David Davis is a good man (“no good for politics then” – if it is true that one must be rotten to be successful in political life then this land is finished), and he generally has a sound sense of policy.

    Will he make a return to front line politics? I do not know – but I hope so.

  25. 53
    Libby the Libertarian says:

    When you murder someone with an axe. You take a person’s right to life and you take away a person’s right to live their life to their full potential and you deny them the liberty to live free from being killed like an animal by an animal.
    I usually respect and agree with Shami’s views. Not this time. She supports criminals’ rights over and above the rights of the victims & their families. Shambolic!

    • 66
      Devil's Handcart says:

      So you mean killing someone with an axe is against their human rights.

      They should be given compensation for being able to access a sharp tool like that.

      EU Rule for sharp axes coming up, based on Lichtenstein law for wood choppers and ‘wolves dressed up as little red riding hood’.

      ‘No one who intends to murder their landlady to be given access to a sharp or even a blunt wood chopper’.

  26. 58
    Down With Brown! says:

    Time for David to make a move against Dave.

    • 61
      Thinker says:

      Davis is no magic bullet. His ideas are sound but public speaking/media handling is crap. There are better options and Davis knows it which is why he’s making a move
      before they appear viable.

    • 71
      c.eng says:

      But how ?

      Maybe we should all pack into Trafalgar Square.

      I realised the UK had an identity problem when my twenty year old daughter asked me if it was Napoleon up there on that column. I think she got five A stars and comendations in history A level.

  27. 63
    Mubarak's X factor says:

  28. 68
    Span Ows says:

    Votes for prisoners was a non-starter…plus he wasn’t written off at all; in fact he GAINED from the walk-out. Plus the Shami thing was nothing…ever…anywhere.

    First time I’ve been completely “at odds” with an order-order post.

  29. 70
    bird with small brain says:

    O/T While hanging around on this blog, can anyone tell me how to ‘refresh’ an iPad? It’s tedious to have to keep reloading the program. You all seem IT literate… if not grammatically so.

  30. 79
    Cynical-old-bag says:

    What’s in it for Jack Straw?

    • 119
      Grumpy Old Man says:

      The chance to demonstrate a shred of honour while distracting attention from the muzzy thing.

  31. 80
    Dack Blog says:

    Is Mubarak related to the Ruin?

  32. 85
    Dack Blog says:

    ‘I’m going to get on with the job/do the work’. Sounds familiar to me. Nobody likes you, you deluded bellend.

  33. 86
  34. 91
    East End Thug says:

    Who were the 22 wankers who voted for prisoners getting the vote?

    • 93
      EU Loves ya Baby says:

      Ken Clarke and the Downing Street Wankers’ EU Blues Band.

    • 95
      Cynical-old-bag says:

      The next 22 Mp’s who think they might be up before the beak for fiddling their expenses!

    • 105
      Anonymous says:

      See Hansard tomorrow

      • 118
        Anonymous says:

        Will read it with interest.

      • 159
        AC1 says:

        A list of those MPs who think the Axe Murderer should have the vote while in jail would make a good post.

        Hopefully not all of them are in a rotten borough/safe seat.

        • 208
          East End Thug says:

          Via ConHome: http://conservativehome.blogs.com/parliament/2011/02/mps-back-ban-on-votes-for-prisoners-by-234-to-22.html

          1 Tory
          *Peter Bottomley

          10 Lib Dems
          * Alan Beith
          * Tom Brake
          * Lorely Burt
          * Don Foster
          * Duncan Hames
          * Simon Hughes
          * Julian Huppert
          * Tessa Munt
          * Alan Reid
          * Stephen Williams

          All 3 Plaid Cyrmu MPs
          * Jonathan Edwards
          * Elfyn Llwyd
          * Hwyel Williams

          8 Labour MPs
          * Jeremy Corbyn
          * Barry Gardiner
          * Kate Green
          * Glenda Jackson
          * Andy Love
          * Kerry McCarthy
          * John McDonnell
          * Yasmin Qureshi

          1 Independent MP
          * Sylvia Hermon

          The 1 Green MP
          * Caroline Lucas

          • Bliar was a lying shit, Brown was a disaster says:

            Bottomley! I thought the old bastard was dead, sadly he still breathes and haunts humanity. An arsehole of the highest order, the epitome of everything bad within the Conservative party, rotted to the core, traitorous vermin like him and his equally odious wife, should be pawn shop spivs at best, if there was any justice in life.

          • Ms. Pankhurst says:

            Glenda Jackson? Must have a minge like a ginger tom with its throat slit…

  35. 96
    T Bliar on the Road to Damascus says:

    As Mubarek has refused to give up his WMD, the Coalition of the Willing has no alternative but to enforce UN resolutions militarily. Any collateral damage will of course accept the necessity of this action.

    • 223
      Bob the Builder (just back from providing the ladder for Squeaker) says:

      How much is your commission on that Tones ?

      Or do you wash it through a “faith foundation” ?

    • 226
      Bliar was a lying shit, Brown was a disaster says:

      Come of it Tony, Egypt has no massive oil reserves, so there’s no money in war there. Iran on the other hand…….

    • 242
      Selohesra says:

      I’m sure Mubarak is no worse than many of the other despots in the region and he has had the advantage of being a stabilising force and not anti us. Its a bit rich the media and the polititians (especially Obama) telling him to go because of a big protest. If Obama had told Cameron to go after the students and associated agitators rioted a few times in London we would not have been impressed

      • 247
        Anonymous says:

        Love the way the media are portraying the latest statement that he’s staying put as some kind of new revelation.
        Mubarak has always maintained he would remain in power until September. It’s been the media and meddling foreign powers who’ve fuelled the false rumour that he was going to stand down immediately.

      • 253
        arse bandit says:

        anyone who helped get rid of limp, podgy dave would impress me

  36. 99
    Brown with Downs says:

    Prison is a holiday camp.

    • 124
      Grumpy Old Man says:

      My son is Downes. He can count up to 20 without using his fingers and toes. Brown would struggle.

      • 133
        nell says:

        Brown is sitting in his kirkcaldy home looking out across that stunning view telling sarah, when she’s there, which isn’t often, that that big lucrative international job, ‘ looking after the world finances’ is coming his way this year!!

  37. 107
    Why do we never learn from History says:

    So Mubarak is not resigning after all, surprise surprise. The Liberal elite were besides themselves earlier this evening and John Snow was creaming himself as their naivette reached new levels.
    I fear the worst for Egypt and the Jackals of Extreme Islam are biding their time waiting for their moment.
    Nothing good will come of this.

  38. 108
    Anonymous says:

    A true Double Diamond-nice one DD.Chalk one up for the Party at long last.

  39. 109
    Slapper Sal says:
  40. 112
    grobdj says:

    This is a no-brainer. Time to stop funding the EHCR pension pot I’d say

    Unelected judges dictating who can and who cannot vote?

    • 121
      Mike Hunt says:

      They should come to our gaols and collect the votes themselves, perhaps that may change their views on those poor little criminals.

      Bunch of cunts.

    • 122
      South of the M4 says:

      We should do as the French and Germans do. We should say… ‘ good idea, we will think about it. Now fuck off.”

      • 145
        David Cameron says:

        Herman van Rumpypumpy might thump me.

        I’d much rather play nicely with the EU, and supinely hand over billions of pounds of your money and more and more control of Britain.

        If Herman does act nastily, I promise you I might perhaps think about doing something. I could sulk for a bit. Perhaps.

        • 255
          floreat etonia says:

          or perhaps just bend over and take it up the arse.

          that’s what I used to do at school.

  41. 123
    MAD FRANKIE HADDOCK son of COD says:

    Now they have rejected this part of the Human Shites act
    they should reject the rest of it
    and start to deport all the rubbish from all corners of the world
    that have been dumped on these shores !

  42. 128
    Ed But Look Balls says:

    Former MP Eric Illsley has been given a year’s jail sentence for dishonestly claiming parliamentary expenses.

    Illsley, 55, pleaded guilty to £14,000 of expenses fraud last month relating to claims he made for his second home between 2005 and 2008.

    ………If it had been a Tory jailed then it would have been on the BBC 10′o clock News for 20 minutes not for 20 secs at !0:20pm !!! WTF!!

  43. 130
    Waterlilly Arse says:

    This will all end in tears I am telling you. Our very good friends in the EU are going to be so cross about this. I will just have to hurry up with my plans to empty England’s prisons. It’s inhumane, locking criminals up!

    • 218
      Treat(y) Me Right says:

      Does nobody read anything on this blog apart from what they write?

      How many more times does it have to be said: THE ECHR HAS FUCK ALL TO DO WITH THE EU.

  44. 132
    Down With Brown! says:

    Cameron’s Big Scoiety = Bush’s Thousand Points of Light.


    • 171
      AC1 says:

      How can Force, coercion and extortion “support” voluntarism?

      It cannot.

      The government should be small. The tax should be high on things the government creates (property rights, patents, and copyrights) and zero on everything else.
      The tax should raise more money than is needed for a minimal state and be returned as an equal dividend to citizens only, ending the state pension and “welfare” state “benefits”, and thus ensuring that immigration is in the countries interests.

  45. 134
    MAD FRANKIE HADDOCK son of COD says:

    Now lets get on a roll and deport Abu Hamzer (hookie to his friends) to America !
    and fuck them nine Afghan hijackers that have been living off the British taxpayers for fifteen years back to Talibanistan !

    • 147
      Dave "I'm going to deal with it" Cameron says:

      I’ll get right on it, just as soon as i take care of the unreasonable MPs allowances system that is causing real hardship to honest Parliamentarians.

      • 240
        jgm2 says:

        No. Get it right. It’s not just causing real hardship – it’s discouraging poorer people from political life!


        The new MPs’ expenses system risks creating a “tragedy” by excluding poorer people from political life, a watchdog has warned.

        How’s that for thinking outside the box. Giving folk a salary of 65K a year is excluding poor people. Holy fuck. We’d better not give them 25K a year or whatever the average wage is or we’d really be excluding poor people.

        Are these c’unts trying to cause a fucking revolution with fucked-up thinking like that? Do they really believe the average UK wage is 150K or something because everybody they know gets that kind of money? And so average folk are taking a pay-cut to go into parliament? Most MPs would be lucky to get a job paying 40K outside of politics. They’re fucking useless. They’d be school teachers or store manager for Top Shop at best.

        Look at the useless c’unts that are getting jailed at the moment. Look at that useless Jacqui-I-live-in-my-sisters-boxroom c’unt on QT last night that should have been jailed. I’d put the useless c’unts in vast dorms and feed them in a school canteen. I’d pay them fuck all which is precisely what the useless c’unts are worth.

  46. 135
    Anonymous says:

    Well Fatty

    You really have lost it. Send DD one of your kosher pizzas and then send him to Egypt to persuade Mubarak to continue.

    Also give us an update on the thrilling Irish economy.

    • 175
      AC1 says:

      Irelands mistake was bailing out the b4nkrupt banks.
      Iceland is bouncing back, Ireland is dragging.

      The difference?
      Iceland choose to not reward failure.

      • 233
        Bliar was a lying shit, Brown was a disaster says:

        Of course he did, he is Continuity-Labour, same ‘third way’ shit peddling phoney as Bliar. His version of Conserfvatism is called corporatism / crony capitalism or less politely, fascism.
        What was that old fascist saying again? Oh yes, ” all profit is privatised, all loss is socialised” in other words, the public pay for everything, no matter what.

      • 259
        Sigur Ros says:

        Which is why we’re joining the EU!

  47. 136
  48. 140
    LEFT LEFT LEFT says:

    OMG QT is LEFT of LEFT 2 Nite

    • 143
      South of the M4 says:

      My wife, ever the moderate and who always raises her eye brows at my ravings, has just sad….” fuck me,who are these utter fuckwits, can they they not see what is really happening”. Married for 26 years,who am I to challenge…..

  49. 144
    Arab Window cleaner says:

    Shake a Shami!

  50. 149
    Old Tory Bigot says:

    QT again

    Audience packed with social workers and lecturers.

    Ming being a hypocritical opportunist c unt as usual.

  51. 150
    Ed But Look Balls says:

    What the feck is that fat has-been doing on QT without Campbell being there as well. Why are these ex-Liebours given so much credence and air time by Al- Beeba! What have we done to deserve these Dumblebores foisted on us forever!

  52. 151
    MAD FRANKIE HADDOCK son of COD says:

    So the vote was 234 to 22
    Tthis was one of the most important votes in recent years
    so why were 391 of these so called politicians missing ?
    were they cottaging the local public toilets
    pissed out of their tiny minds in one of the taxpayer subsidised HoC bars
    getting their bottoms thrashed down at a Soho dungeon
    or cross dressing and being rogered by a rentboy at Kingscross station
    the fact is two thirds of them were missing !

  53. 153
    Ratsniffer says:

    Totally leftie audience on QT…again….hand wringing wet labourites.

    • 162
      Old Tory Bigot says:

      Oh I don’t know. There’s a decent looking old buffer in a smart blazer and a club tie who claps all the sensible points.

      I suppose he could be a hire by the BBC drama casting department though.

  54. 161
    QT should be Ashamed. says:

    WHERE THE FUCKING HELL did they get this audience from? IT bears NO resemblance to British society.

    • 164
      Old Tory Bigot says:

      Ever been to Bristol?

      One particularly dismal part of Bristol has Dawn Primarolo for their MP.

      You can’t say they are normal.

      • 176
        Brunell says:

        Yes. I’ve been to Bristol.

        Never did understand why they stuck their airport out in the sticks and on top of the biggest hill in the South west when they have Filton right in their midst.

        • 184
          Mr Brown Envelope Stuffed with Unmarked Notes says:

          I’m sure no dirty money changed hands.

        • 186
          South of the M4 says:

          Agree. Filton is brilliant. Long, wide runway, fantastic (private) atc and close to motorway network. Perhaps RR and Airbus would not allow any expansion.
          Perhaps similarly, Orley in Paris has never developed over Charles De’Gualle airport.

        • 196
          Bill Quango MP says:

          Its a long from nowhere that airport. Long way even from Bristol.

        • 210
          Anonymous says:

          It shouldn’t take a genius to understand that Filton is smack in the town and the Britolians object to the aircraft noise.

          • Bliar was a lying shit, Brown was a disaster says:

            Pretty much all of the housing built around Filton was built after the Airfield and there are lots of private flights into there daily.
            The locals didn’t have a leg to stand on, but as ever, some shysters saw a money making opportunity, so hey presto, new Airport built on farmland. Just to let you really understand, what politicians mean whilst waffling endlessly regarding ‘sustainability’.

  55. 165
    MAD FRANKIE HADDOCK son of COD says:

    O/T When is that Great ugly sack of shit Jackie Smith
    going to get prosecuted for stealing our taxpayers money ?

    • 182
      Anonymous says:

      It’s vomit inducing, the efforts the BBC make to bung her a few quid and try to rehabilitate her in the public eye. FFS woman, just crawl back under the stone from whence you came, you mendacious, thieving scumbag!

  56. 167
    Ratsniffer says:

    Who’s that fucking GOBSHITE who won’t let the rest talk?

  57. 168
    MAD FRANKIE HADDOCK son of COD says:

    Who is that mouthy muzzie on Q/T ?
    my god has he got a chip on his shoulder!

  58. 170
    cheche says:

    Medi Hassan is very annoying why is wearing a Hitler moustache

  59. 180
    MAD FRANKIE HADDOCK son of COD says:

    Just a thought !
    Why is that fat ugly sack of shit Jackie Smith on Q/T ?
    hasn’t she got some shelves to stack at Tesco ?

    • 188
      Don't Diss the Shelf Stackers says:

      No she’s exactly the sort of middle-aged jumped up junior manager in charge of the poor shelf stackers and spends every waking hour making their lives hell.

  60. 187
    Is islamosocialism an oxymoron? says:

    Unbelievable bias from the BBC, the QT audiences are hand picked by lefties from lefty areas for their pure leftiness.

    • 189
      Old Tory Bigot says:

      I loved the aghast look on the smug, shiny-faced bint in the audience when Maude called her a ‘lady’.

    • 195
      Joss Ayinglike says:

      Have you ever tried to apply to go on QT as a member of the audience ??? I recommend you try ( for a laugh ).


      9. If there were a General Election tomorrow, which political party would you be most likely to vote for?
      Liberal Democrats
      Scottish National
      Plaid Cymru
      Ulster Unionist
      Democratic Unionist
      Sinn Fein
      Social Democrat & Labour
      Would not vote
      Other (please state)
      10. Do you fully support the leader of that party?
      Yes No

      11. Which of these groups do you consider yourself to belong to?
      Mixed Origin
      Other (please specify)

      and 14. Are you a member of a political party?
      Yes No

      As soon as you tick the ‘wrong’ boxes, you won’t be invited……

      Trust me, I applied twice and obviously gave the ‘wrong’ answers…

  61. 190
    A Lovely Advert For "Reasonable" Isla.m says:


    Mehdi Hasan, what an aggressive, arrogant little shit.

    It does not take much imagination to figure out why his dad had doggy doo pushed through his letterbox!

    • 193
      Why do we never learn from History says:

      The little lying arse hole denied that religion has any part to play in Islamic terrorism. Despite the fact the terrorists say so themselves. Would a deluded little cultist.

    • 204
      Old Tory Bigot says:

      It was probably addressed to little Mehdi.

  62. 191
    Little Boy Blue says:

    I see the greatly bewhiskered holy one (he with the oversized walking stick) has stuck his oar in. He thinks all lags should get the vote. Well since he became their leader a lot of his flock have voted with their feet which is why there are so many empty pews in his churches these days.

  63. 192
    A Lovely Advert For "Reasonable" Isla.m says:

    Speaking of Question Time, how did Smith get away with not going to prison?

  64. 194
    Quality says:

    Douglas Murray is superb.

  65. 197
    Joss Ayinglike says:

    Modded, so I’ll abbreviate….

    For those wondering how the audiences are selected on QT, have a look at the BBC application form


    The answer lies therein…..

  66. 201
    Is islamosocialism an oxymoron? says:

    Nighty night bitches!

  67. 202
    Jimmy says:

    I must admit the whole “tories for civil liberties” thing was hilarious while it lasted. Not many could keep a straight face like that for so long.

    • 238
      Eeu to me says:

      It’s a shame that Liebour regime forgot all about civil liberties when they were in,they did all they could to bring 3000 laws in to help destroy them,it’s nice to know you can now laugh at the tories about civil liberties,but I just wonder what would have happened if your regime was still in.

    • 241
      jgm2 says:

      Labour lost.

      Get over it Jimmy.

  68. 206

    Like me. David D is a fighter and not a quitter.

  69. 207
    Islamosocialism says:

  70. 213

    Perhaps we could call this another example of Devine judgement within 24 hours?

    Scottish Labour MP’s have contributed to our woes for too long. All of a sudden they are not voting any more. Of course we must remember that some of them can’t right now …

    We should re-Joyce that W(h)ats-on in politics does not let these criminal MPs off the McLeish simply because they don’t give a Foulke-s.

    We should not be Wendy-bendy over this but make All-exa-(mple)nder of these thieves.

  71. 217
    albacore says:

    Why does everybody here (it seems) still watch Question Time?
    You know what you’re going to get and you know it won’t ever change.
    Its like swallowing the same advert for wonder trash every single time it’s aired – and then buying the pup again, every time.
    Just asking.

    • 230
      Anonymous says:

      As you’re asking, I didn’t.
      Thinking of applying the same principles
      for The Today bunch.

    • 236
      Anonymous says:

      On the Biased-BBC Blog website there is a live blog running at the same time, get on there air your frustration and get amused at the same time.

      • 249
        Anonymous says:

        I don’t watch QT any more and my kids asked me this morning why I bothered listening to the Toady programme as it made me shouty.

  72. 232
    Shifting Sands in the Land of the Pharoahs ?? says:

    O/T As I watched Hosni Muburak last night addressing his citizens on state televison and then saying that only he could sort out the mess and would be staying I had a sudden flashback to our own dear ex-PM…Gordon Brown.. broadcasting on our own state tv(aka BBC).the resemblance was uncanny …….

  73. 243

    Allister Heath’s, “The top ten real causes of the crisis”, linked above in Seen Elsewhere, is one of the best encapsulations I have seen.

    Worth a permanent link:

    • 245
      jgm2 says:

      Here’s what the yanks (or rather the Democrats on the enquiry) decided was the cause of their crisis.


      * Failures in financial regulation, including the Federal Reserve’s failure “to stem the tide of toxic mortgages”
      * A breakdown in corporate governance that led to “reckless” actions and excessive risk taking by financial institutions
      * Households taking on too much debt
      * A lack of understanding of the financial system on the part of policymakers
      * Fundamental breaches in accountability and ethics “at all levels”.


      # Former Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan was accused of “championing” financial deregulation during the credit boom that “stripped away key safeguards”.
      # Mr Greenspan was also indirectly criticised for the Fed’s overly loose monetary policy and pronouncements that “encouraged rather than inhibited the growth of mortgage debt and the housing bubble”

      Oh. You mean it wasn’t all the banker’s fault?

      What a fucking surprise.

      • 248
        Eeu to me says:

        So Brown liked the US so much he copied them or did he start off damaging our economy and the US followed or it both did both lunatics decide at the same time or did the pixie’s visited both the nutters while they were dreaming and make them do it,maybe somebody drew a gun on them,maybe pigs were seen flying over no11 and the White house,maybe the thought they were playing Monopoly,maybe they opend a money laundry and went into partnership,maybe they were so fixated with themselves and so incompetent that as sure as night followed day well we know the rest.

      • 250
        jgm2 says:

        You’re the only one obsessed about blaming the banks like the BBC taught you.

        If only you’d read what I wrote instead of what you think I wrote. But here’s the link yet again….


        It’s only your fucked-up head that is obsessed with the banks. The US enquiry and myself (as evidenced by the post I’ve linked to) know exactly who to blame. Indeed I knew who they’d be blaming even before any dumb fucking Labour apologists even realised there was a problem brewing. And I can prove it.

        That’s the beauty of using a consistent moniker. You can prove you were right instead of snidely sniping with a load of bollocks from a minute-by-minute changing ‘comedy’ name.

        Now, post the video of that Irish fella sounding off in Nova Scotia. He seems to have the same grasp (after the fact) as you do.


  74. 244
    Worth a quick read... says:

    Britain was a founder member of the European Court of Human Rights, and many of its founding principles were drafted by the British judiciary. The Court was established several years before the EU came into being, and has no connections whatsoever with the EU. Britain has a duty to comply with the rulings of the Court, and it WILL do so, though perhaps in limited form. It is claimed, rather stupidly above, that tiny European states are allowed to determine the law in Britain. If that is the case, would it be acceptable if Russia or Germany would be permitted to set UK law? The British will use this as an opportunity to berate the EU, though it has as much to do with the EU as The Milk Marketing Board.

    - Eugene Kaufmann, Ourense, Spain, 10/2/2011 18:36

  75. 260
    Anonymous says:

    The Comeback Kid…don’t make me laugh…his nose is well & truely out of joint & DD would jump on anybandwagon to get a bit of publicity! The Any Bandwagon Kid more like it!

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Rod Liddle on the loony UN sexism special rapporteur:

“There is more sexism in Britain than in any other country in the world, according to a mad woman who has been sent here by the United Nations.

Rashida Manjoo is a part-time professor of law at Cape Town University in the totally non-sexist country of South Africa (otherwise known as Rape Capital Of The World).

Mrs Magoo has been wandering around with her notebook and is appalled by the sexist “boys’ club” culture here, apparently.

I don’t doubt we still have sexism in the UK. But is it worse than in, say, Saudi Arabia, d’you think, honey-lamb? Or about 175 other countries? Get a grip, you doolally old bat.”

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What’s he been doing FFS, mining bitcoins?

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