February 9th, 2011

Bureau of Investigative Journalism Like Inspector Clouseau

This morning the grandly named “Bureau of Investigative Journalism” provides the Guardian with a splash claiming that the Tories are more dependent on the City than ever. However Guido can reveal that so inept is the investigation that it is more Inspector Clouseau than Sherlock Holmes.

According to the BIJ “The biggest individual City backer of the Tories is David Rowland, who has contributed £4.013m in just two years.” Anyone who has read even only the business pages of the Guardian will tell you that David Rowland is a property developer, not a City financier. His firm is not even listed on the London Stock Exchange.

Subtract Rowland from the BIJ’s own dubious numbers and all of a sudden the reality behind the headline City Bankrolled Tory Election Campaign becomes less exciting, with their own self-selected top ten of remaining City donors giving the Tories a mere 9% of their funds. Even then it is the case that the individuals gave their money out of their own pockets – and not one single one of them works for a bailed out bank. The BIJ was supposed to herald a new kind of journalism, yet this sloppy piece of work is as slapdash as anything Kevin Maguire could knock up in a half-an-hour after a good lunch. Guido was a supporter of the BIJ when it launched, this is very disappointing.

Sensationalist, misleading and wrong on the single most significant piece of data. Yuba Bessaoud is one of the hacks behind the piece, Guido can vouch that he is a great guy for a night out, but he isn’t a financial journalist, he is a Labour Party loyalist, who by his own admission doesn’t know the difference between inflation and interest rates.

The BIJ received a £2 million grant from the Potter Foundation last year to explore new ways of conducting and funding investigative journalism. David Potter made his fortune when he floated his firm on the London Stock Exchange…

UPDATE : Under the heading “Individual Donors with links to Global Banking Crisis” the BIJ press release argues that because property developer Robert Tchenguiz borrowed from an Icelandic bank, Kaupthing, his £53,620, donation was somehow linked to the banking crisis, Derek Quinlan another property developer donated £46,500 to the Tories and borrowed from Irish and Scottish banks. So despite them not being City figures they are linked to banks that went bust – therefore the Tories are involved in the financial crisis. By that logic everyone with a mortgage borrowed from Halifax, Northern Rock, LLoyds, Bank of Scotland and RBS is linked to the banking crisis. Very tenuous.


212 Comments

  1. 1
    Tachybaptus says:

    There seems to be an obsession among lefties of all kinds to accuse their opponents of doing exactly what they are doing themselves. It goes back a long way, at least to the 1950s with the Soviets accusing the west of human rights abuses, probably farther back than that. It is a remarkably primitive and ineffective technique, because everyone knows now that all they have to do when a black kettle is mentioned is to look for the black pot on the opposite shelf.

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      Jack Jones says:

      The greedy traitors.

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        David Rowland: City wheeler-dealer back from exile says:

        Before the election, the Conservatives were dogged by stories about the tax affairs of their deputy chairman and former treasurer, Lord Ashcroft. It seems they never learn, says Andrew Pierce in the Daily Mail. Their new treasurer is another former tax exile whose past business dealings make “Ashcroft seem like a nun”. No doubt David “Spotty” Rowland’s financial expertise and donations (nearly £3m so far) are welcome, but Labour’s attack-dogs are salivating at the thought of him taking up the post in October.

        The son of a south London scrap-metal dealer, Rowland, 65, is “a legendary City figure”, says The Times.

        http://www.moneyweek.com/news-and-charts/david-rowland-city-wheeler-dealer-back-from-exile-49535.aspx

        Dearie me Fawkes, don’t you ever get tired of being wrong?
        Even those socialists at moneyweek know your excuse is laughable.

        CCHQ also isnt denying the Conservatives got 50.8% of their funds from dodgy city spivs in 2010. CCHQ is spinning that they have no say over policy.

        If you’re going to turn your back on investigating donors and dodgy money in politics to concentrate on spinning for Cameron, at least get on the same page as CCHQ and get it right. I doubt they have much need for an incompetent spinner like yourself.

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          erratum says:

          CCHQ is denying they have ANY say over policy.

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        • 47

          “City” is lazy journalism unless of course they are referring to the sprawling metropolis of St Peter Port (preceded by Monte Carlo and Paris).

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          • even the Conservatives don't deny the story, they are claiming they have no influence says:

            and feebly trying to rubbish the story based on the word “city” when even moneyweek and the Times uses it isn’t laughably desperate at all

            it’s the finest investigative journalism money can buy

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          • Write down five reasons why he’s “City” and set them out here if you get a moment.

            By similar extrapolation you might as well call Ed Miliband a communist because he was brought up by one.

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          • Fawkes called him a Spiv and the Communists at the Daily Mail hammer his City past says:

            I posted links for both but the Mod doesn’t want to let them through, for some reason. LOL!

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          misterned says:

          Can you name one high profile election policy that the tories have junked which can directly be linked to a single donation from a single donor?

          In the same way that Blair took a bung from Bernie Ecclestone and immediately excused F1 from the tobacco advertising ban?

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          • Anonymous says:

            No No you misunderstood that – he was really a pretty straight sort of guy

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          • Andrew Lansley bankrolled by private healthcare provider says:

            Andrew Lansley, the shadow health secretary, is being bankrolled by the head of one of the biggest private health providers to the NHS, The Daily Telegraph can disclose.

            http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/6989408/Andrew-Lansley-bankrolled-by-private-healthcare-provider.html

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          • misterned says:

            So what is the specific policy that they wanted changing, and what response has there been from Andrew Lansley?

            Are they wanting a more efficient health service generally? Or are they lobbying for a massive chunk of money for themselves at the expense of Patients? or Are they wanting for themselves to be made exempt from cuts?

            What is the specific allegation here?

            I mean there is a big difference between any organisation (be it a bank, a private charity or an individual) from giving money to any political party because they support that party and believe that that party would be better for them generally, and what the labour party does by selling direct influence of policy and party members and party leadership direct to the unions.

            Also the example I gave above was a much clearer example of direct selling of a specific policy for a high-price donation, than anything that happened before. Cash for questions does not come even close to that Blairite level of corruption.

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          • Anonymous says:

            Let’s not forget the Cash for Honours scandal that Labour were involved in.

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          • any excuse says:

            you’re weaseling neddy

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    • 21
      Grumpy Old Man says:

      +1. I’ve posted to this effect before. i’m glad it’s not just me.

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    • 66
      Laing says:

      it’s not just lefties silly, look at the shit spoken about the unions – with the implied nonsense that the country should return to the real dark ages, not just today’s dark ages!!

      Cameron was right about one aspect of political life in the UK – THEY ARE ALL IN IT TOGETHER

      Corruption, status seeking, money grabbing and larceny on a grand scale are all part of parliamentary culture – ask Eric Illsley

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      • 71
        misterned says:

        +1

        Labour did not mind city fat cats stuffing labour’s back pockets did they?

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          but they did it too! so it must be ok says:

          Then the Tories are as bad as New Labour.

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          • misterned says:

            Except that the tories did not hypocritically claim that it is OK for the city fat-cats to give money to labour, whereas for the same people to give money to the tories is wrong.

            It is down to the spin that the city-fat cats funding labour is a sign of the support and admiration those sound economic giants of the City of London show for labour’s economic policies, whereas the same people funding the tories is fat-cat spiv bankers on the make screwing us all and engaging in the corrupt buying of influence and policy.

            All the negative spin is coming from the labour side when they are even more guilty of selling influence than the tories have ever been.

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        • 114
          Selohesra says:

          and of course Labour did not take huge bungs from Enron for influence

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    • 75
      David Abrahams says:

      Howay the lads!

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    • 115
      How many with a mortgage donated Big Money to Dave ? says:

      So despite them not being City figures they are linked to a bank that went bust – therefore the Tories are involved in the financial crisis.

      Hence the phrase “Individual Donors with links to Global Banking Crisis”

      Trying to weasel out of this with anal semantics that don’t even work is the very definition of Very tenuous.

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  2. 2
    Penrose Van Ticklewhistle says:

    Bears shit in the woods… Popes a catholic

    How much do Labour get from the Unions and from the union modernistaion fund did they mention that per chance?

    More to point how much tax does the Guardian avoid in a financial year?.

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      weybridgeman says:

      The unions not only contribute substantially more to Liebour but also ahve their fingerpritns, at the very least, all over the bulk of its policies – but then again ‘My Fresh Ideas’ sort of sums it up………

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  3. 3
    smoggie says:

    More Pravda than Wahington Post.

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  4. 4
    The Grauniad sucks says:

    So basically The Guardian prints more pro-Labour shit as usual. What else to expect from a rag that called Myra Hindley a political prisoner?

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  5. 5
    Len McCluskey, The Unite Union says:

    Ed Miliband is my bitch. He does as he’s told. Got it?

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  6. 6
    Lord Envious of Avarice says:

    More of the same

    see a doctor in the morning!

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  7. 7
    One of the Great Unwashed says:

    Rest assurred the totally biased BBC will run with this Guardianista disinformation crap for months dressing it all up as being very true & accurate, something neither of them aspire to.

    Mean while the crooked LABOUR MP Illesley has only just resigned from HoC less than 48 hours before he’s due back in Court to be sentenced. Seems like he was so engrossed with his big fat LABOUR snout in trough, sucking as much public funds he could hoover up before his own imposed deadline. Fu*king t*sser Red Ed IF he had any guts would have forced him as soon as the Labour Crook pleaded guilty over a month ago and of course this real information will hardly get a mention on any of the BIASED BBC channels.

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    • 107
      Gonk says:

      Terrible shock for them this morning
      when Tim Collins told them what’s what
      about their beloved Blair/Brown combo on Today.
      Still they recovered sharply and got him off pronto.

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    • 131
      Gordon Brown says:

      Talking about the Grauniad, Liebour Luvvie Naughtie on Toady in an artice about Meryl Streep playing a ‘sensual’ Maggie Thatcher couldn’t resist to mention in the piece… ‘Milk Snatcher’ and ‘Destroyer of Industry’ quote the Grauniad he added. James Naughtie – Legendary Scottish Twat. Feck off back to Strathbogie and take Gordon with you !

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    • 162
      misterned says:

      At least the BBC actually reported that crooked Labour MP has resigned for taking 15,000 quid before he is sentenced.

      They spent an entire 9 seconds on it this morning.

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  8. 8
    Jimmy says:

    “Sensationalist, misleading and wrong on the single most significant piece of data.”

    Too easy.

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      the old Dufflebag says:

      Given that political parties are not state funded the need to raise money elsewhere is a constant factor of the modern day political forum we live in. Its very easy to spin this type of pseudo ‘investigative’ journalism in any direction to suit the creator’s aims which in this case are clearly ‘labour friendly’.

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      • 13
        Wombat 18 says:

        I’m glad you understood what the cu­nt is on about. What’s he sayin about Too Easy?

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          This is what's needed - Critical Thinking!! says:

          A Definition of Critical Thinking

          Critical thinking is that mode of thinking — about any subject, content,or problem — in which the thinker improves the quality of his or her thinking by skillfully analyzing, assessing, and reconstructing it. Critical thinking is self-directed, self-disciplined, self-monitored, and self-corrective thinking. It presupposes assent to rigorous standards of excellence and mindful command of their use. It entails effective communication and problem-solving abilities, as well as a commitment to overcome our native egocentrism and sociocentrism.

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    • 73
      Backwoodsman says:

      Hey, that’ll do for the bbc, as long as it has an anti Tory slant, thats all that matters !

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    yawn...trollers united says:

    written by a MK 11 brain…pathetic nonsense.

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  10. 12
    Wombat 18 says:

    Oh God, here comes the Fourth Reich.

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  11. 16
    Popeye says:

    Almost as partisan as the wonderful BBC?
    I did say almost!!

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      jgm2 says:

      Spot the missing word from this article…

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-12400076

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      • 38
        Mike Hunt says:

        There is a link labelled ‘Liebour Party’ at the bottom of the page, does that count?

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      • 41

        The BBC will claim that he is not a member of that particular party so it would not be appropriate to tarnish them with his wrongdoing.

        So let us make amends:

        LABOUR THIEVES – LABOUR THIEVES – LABOUR THIEVES – LABOUR THIEVES – LABOUR THIEVES – LABOUR THIEVES – LABOUR THIEVES – LABOUR THIEVES – LABOUR THIEVES – LABOUR THIEVES – LABOUR THIEVES – LABOUR THIEVES – LABOUR THIEVES – LABOUR THIEVES – LABOUR THIEVES – LABOUR THIEVES – LABOUR THIEVES – LABOUR THIEVES – LABOUR THIEVES – LABOUR THIEVES -

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        • 43
          Dave's BBC Spindoctor says:

          Well done!

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        • 109
          Anonymous says:

          Wow! Clicked on a link to this site by accident… Some seriously disturbed individuals on here. So this is where all the fat, scruffy losers reside? Why are you all so angry? Job no good? Wife no good? Life no good??? Get off the net and back to life. You bunch of sad, deluded swivel-eyed nut jobs… If my post gets deleted I am going to personally complain to President Mubarak :-) Bye

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          • 48 Crash says:

            I resent that. I’m not swivel-eyed.

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          • John E. Beagurd says:

            With a name like order order what were you looking for an inflateable Betty Boothroyrd?? – You socialist twat of twats!

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          • Gonk says:

            By accident eh?

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          • I am working hard cleaning builders’ mess off my patio so I can swim this summer in my new pool. If it is not big enough for me, I shall take a short 5 mile trip to the Adriatic and swim in that. So yes. Job not very good, life is bearable, wife is fine, thanks.

            Presumably, from what you tell us, you do not use the net and hit someone else’s computer keys by accident and landed up here. Hope you get what you want out of Hosni and have a nice summer there!

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    • 61
      Stop funding the Labour Party with my licence fee says:

      Excellent moment on Today this morning. Interviewed Tim Collins about the Military Covenant. He blamed the Labour Govt for the destruction of the Regimental System and the fact that there is no money for the woes of the Armed Forces. After a couple of “Yes but surely…..” questions which were rebuffed and the original point reinforced we very quickly moved on. Obviously not on message.

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      • 129
        Sophie says:

        Stop paying the TV Socialist Tax then you hoon.

        I am more than 3 years in – a few snot-o-grams & two visits.

        No prosecutuion – just a threat from me that if TV Licensing (The SS of the BBC) stepped onto my property again they would be subject to prosecution – aggravated trespass & demanding money with menaces

        They are sales commissioned nazis – not warranted Court officers.

        Dont pay your TV Tax & let them know you will prosecute if they step onto your property.

        Works for me – & I feel so much better not funding those treasonous BBC bastards.

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      • 148
        Gonk says:

        You got there first 61.
        Couldn’t get him off quick enough, could they?

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  12. 17
    Muuurty's Ghuuurst says:

    As long as it’s not a Mittal or a Hinduja, else that would be bad would it not?

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  13. 18
    Cake Thief says:

    Its early and I’m tired, so is this sarcasm or are you just a twat?

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    When legend becomes fact...print the legend says:

    As previous comments have said…the BBC will certainly be holding the Coalition(sorry… I meant to say the Tory-led Government) to account on this at every opportunity in accordance with their Charter…….

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      Dave's BBC Spindoctor says:

      Yes they will.

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      • 31
        jgm2 says:

        Indeed they are. UK Front Page.

        http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk/

        Job done.

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        • 34
          jgm2 says:

          It’s also on the Politics page, the Business page, the England page and the Home page.

          Definitely covering that story across the range of their outputs.

          Thorough job.

          Well done.

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          • Dave's BBC Spindoctor says:

            Dave didn’t replace Coulson with me because I was shit, did he ?

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          • Mike Hunt says:

            You can almost feel the spit-through-clenched-teeth enunciation of ‘Tory’.

            Good old Aunty. What party is the latest cheat from?

            Shhhhhhh.

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          • misterned says:

            “It’s also on the Politics page, the Business page, the England page and the Home page.”

            In other words it is on all the pages that ignored the story about Labour MP Eric Joyce resigning from his front bench shadow minister post when he was convicted of the criminal charge of drunk driving.

            Yet the story of Lord Young, only an advisor, resigning for making a poorly judged comment, was splashed all over the BBC TV, Radio and internet news all that same day.

            The BBC are not even pretending to be impartial anymore.

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        • 56
          Anonymous says:

          WOW! Shcok Horror – One of the top Universities is going to charge top fees. Golly – never saw that coming. Sorry Lefties, it’s called a market economy.

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          • Wombat 18 says:

            There are a shitload of rich lefties who can afford it anyway.

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          • When legend becomes fact...print the legend says:

            Much like the spin on withdrawal of the EMA of £30 will cause hardship and result in young people withdrawing from their courses… it’s quite well known at our local “College” in a not too poorly off area(both parents in good white collar jobs.two cars on drive;foreign holidays etc etc..surely they must be earning over £30k pa ??) but with the the occasional student coming from “poor background” every single student in one year qualified for EMA….???? Surely not ??? Most of the kids use these funds for buying clothes;CDs;PC Ganes and going out I’m sure that is not what it’s intended for but from the clamour of “well-off” college students you’d think it was the end of the World..I don’t remember being put off going to 6th Form College when I was young…my parents weren’t well off either..you either got a Saturday job or walked to college and we had to purchase the “set books” for our course too although I will concede that they were the days when actually going to university meant something and that a degree was actually worth something too as opposed to the devalued A Levels and degrees we’ve seen over the past 13 years….. with 900,000 16-24 year olds out of work(45% of them graduates)students ought to be on the barricades about the worthlessness of any qualifications they get in the jobs market not all this rubbish about fees and EMA

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  15. 25
    Anonymous says:

    BAD POSTER!!
    you’ve upset the windowlickers

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  16. 28
    dave nonspart says:

    You’ve just outlined a foreign policy that no sane person could disagree with! Thanks

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  17. 32
    drakes drum says:

    Now who do I prefer. A party that gets money from self made financiers who do not elect or influence the selection of the leader of a political party.

    Or a party that gets money from trades unions who elect with their massive votes and influence both the leader and policies of a political party.

    Not forgetting that the political party that is bankrolled by the trades unions allowed public money to be paid to the trades unions. Scratching backs comes to mind.

    There is more corruption within the Labour Party and its closeness to the trades unions than the conservative party.

    Excellent post, Guido, puts it all into proper context. Why anyone should take the Guardian seriously now I will never know. It was once the great Manchester Guardian it has gone downhill since.

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    • 80
      Anonymous says:

      a somewhat disengenious comment – of course the elites and the rich don’t influence anybody to do anything – smoke and mirrors my friend – who exactly voted for Cameron and in what way was favourite David Davies shuvved to one side?

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        NotaSheep says:

        Because the BBC pushed David Cameron’s election. They would rather an old-Etonian lead the ‘nasty party’ than an ex-Council flat lad, makes the class war attacks so much easier to make and frames the debate so nicely.

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    • 81
      you are so naieve says:

      a somewhat disengenious comment – of course the elites and the rich don’t influence anybody to do anything – smoke and mirrors my friend – who exactly voted for Cameron and in what way was favourite David Davies shuvved to one side?

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    • 135
      Twenty Four Hours from Tulsa says:

      Why isn’t the advertising Government/Civil Service/Public Sector posts in the Grauniad being axed and done online instead at a fraction of the cost I should reckon. Come on Cameron get a grip and sort this out.

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    Cato Street Conspirator says:

    ‘Sensationalist, misleading and wrong on the single most significant piece of data.’

    Very much like Mr Fawkes when he told us Johnson was resigning because of his affair with a civil servant?

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  19. 35
    blackbyle says:

    Is Potter a lefty – I have never heard of him ? Elucidate please Guido !

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  20. 36
    Tom Baldwin says:

    EXCLUSIVE

    David Cameron is having another of his “black moods” this morning and will be bloody awful at PMQ’s.
    Ed Miliband will give him an easy ride again this week

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      Eeu to me says:

      Still reading the news from planet Zog.

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    • 164
      Gonk says:

      So Dave will emerge victorious again
      despite being crap because Ed is even more crap.
      My prediction is Dave will win by some margin.
      But I thought Wales would win on Friday….

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  21. 40
    Jon Snot. says:

    Even I’ve stopped reading the G rag.

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  22. 45
    Gideon and Dave spinning their arses off says:

    Yesterdays pathetic bank tax announcement brought forward by a month you say? Wonder why that was……

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    • 99
      Wombat 18 says:

      So that the financiers can commence their relocation to a more tax friendly country a month earlier than planned?

      They are killing the golden goose and the Swiss and the Germans are pissing themselves laughing.

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  23. 49
    PBM says:

    And the Biased Broadcasting Corporation repeats the BIJ story on R4 News as fact. As Sissons pointed out the Gruaniad is their research department

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  24. 50
    blackbyle says:

    Do you mean the BBC daily “guideline guide “a k a the Farringdon Farrago ? Deny them the licence tax !

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  25. 55
    SocialGhism says:

    More Labour controlled activism. On the BBC the BIJ is given some sort of credible airspace with some policy professor weighing in saying it should be looked at closer.

    I am far happier with a party taking backing from commercial entities that support our fragile economy than from anarchists such as Labour do!

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  26. 58
    Henri Marceau says:

    alors

    in a world where Frank Lampard can be England captain and Andy Gray and Richard Keys can quickly return to broadcasting for talkSPORT, have a look at this little gem about the BBC childrens radio

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/feb/08/bbc-cuts-childrens-radio-shows

    average age of listener is 48!

    bon chance mes amies

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  27. 59
    The Potter Foundation says:

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  28. 65
    Anonymous says:

    http://tinyurl.com/6eru96c A bit more than a property develloper

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  29. 67
    gormless BBC twats says:

    More than half of Conservative donors ‘from the City’

    More than half of donations to the Conservative Party last year came from the City of London, according to the Bureau of Investigative Journalism.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12401049

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  30. 69

    I seem to remember the BBC and Guardian waxing lyrical when Teflon Tony was the darling of the city, using their huge donations to the Labour Party as a sign that the city approved of Blair and Brown’s fiscal policy!

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  31. 72
    Tom Baldwin says:

    David Cameron’s honeymoon period with the voters is over as new figures reveal that his support is on the wane.

    A “poll of polls” for January shows more people are now unhappy than happy with the Prime Minister’s performance.

    One survey even shows him as unpopular as Margaret Thatcher was in January 1980, at the equivalent stage of her first term.

    The study was compiled for the right wing political blogger,Guido Fawkes by John Curtice, professor of politics at Strathclyde University.

    Guido Fawkes said: “This is the first time since last year’s election that Mr Cameron’s net ratings have consistently been negative and suggests that the Prime Minister’s honeymoon appears to be over.

    “The hard graft of trying to take the public with him through difficult times has now begun. Mr Cameron has lost his shine and doubts are creeping in about the Government’s handling of the economy.”

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    • 79
      La la la says:

      Tom, there’s a little bit of white powder dribbling out of your nose.

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    • 89
      Joss Taskin says:

      Didn’t Margaret Thatcher go on as Prime Minister for another ten years after the 1980 poll ??

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      • 95
        The Enormous Community says:

        You think Afghanistan will be Dave’s Falklands War and save him do you?

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        • 103
          Joss Ayinglike says:

          Afghanistan is Liebour’s quagmire. As ever, the Tories have to clean up Liebour’s shit, militarily, economically and socially.

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          • You support it, you own it says:

            Cameron supported it to the hilt just like he supported Iraq so he can’t cry about it now.

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          • Liebour's Poisoned Chalices says:

            Cameron supported Britain’s troops to the hilt. Outside Bush’s and B£iar’s inner circles everyone was fed lies about Iraq and Afghanistan.

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          • you support it, you own it says:

            No, he supported the entire invasion and the Conservatives voted it through. Dave still supports the Iraq Invasion BTW. Even after all the lies.

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          • Liebour's Poisoned Chalices says:

            Stand in the opposite corner to the Deficit Deniers and read Red Ed’s ideas http://bit.ly/hXELoN whilst you’re waiting for the men in white coats, please.

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          • sockpuppet #4 says:

            Mr. Chalices

            I can’t quite remember now, but it strikes me that the dodgy dossier etc. would be the kind of thing that if you learned about it via wikileaks you’d sit back for 20 seconds and say “yes of course, I should have known that all along, its no surprise”. with hindsight its bleeding obvious. You’d hope opposition politicians would know.

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          • you support it, you own it says:

            You’re just another braindead retard nutter with your tongue stuck up Cameron’s arse.

            Cameron also denied the deficit because he and Osborne pledged to match Labour spending you dumbass.

            I wouldn’t vote for any of the Blairite Parties if you paid me you stupid twat. The Heir to Blair Dave is a Lightweight Blairite just like Ed. The best bit is that you know it too and you can’t stand it but you have to spin for him because you’re a partisan fuckwit with no mind of your own.

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          • Liebour's Poisoned Chalices says:

            Lose your temper, lose the argument !! Mind your blood pressure there !!

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          • you support it, you own says:

            Fuck’s sake, it’s just some twatty kid. LOL!
            Run along to your mummy little toryboy because you’re shit at this.

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          • Liebour's Poisoned Chalices says:

            Shrieked the geriatric Liebour troll.

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          • misterned says:

            “but it strikes me that the dodgy dossier etc. would be the kind of thing that if you learned about it via wikileaks you’d sit back for 20 seconds and say “yes of course, I should have known that all along, its no surprise”

            Actually I would be far more sceptical if I had learned about it from wikileaks and would wonder “why the limited hang-out on this?”

            Wikileaks is to be taken with a large pinch of salt and anything they leak should be checked against reputable sources.

            I was (alongside many independent blogs) debunking both of the dodgy dossiers (September and February) within hours of their official release. It did not take a “wikileaks” to prove them to be utterly bullshit. Ordinary people who downloaded the February dossier in Microsoft Word format and could see from the edit history, that not one page of the that dossier had even been glanced at by the security services, but had been cut n paste and then edited from an online thesis, knew Blair was flat out lying to Parliament and the media when he claimed it was “the latest intelligence.”

            The September dossier was so fatuously incorrect, edited and cherry-picked, that by its own edit histories it debunked itself!

            To parahrase, “Iraq is not a threat to us, or indeed even her neighbours” transformed during a “presentation” meeting chaired by Alistair Campbell, into “45 minutes from DOOM!” by way of those edits.

            Tory MPs should have used a tiny bit of their grey matter, and actually performed a little bit of research to independently verify for themselves, if the Iraq invasion could be justified as a just war in self-defence, or whether it could be argued to be an unlawful crime against peace. I mean it was an incredibly important decision. Far too important to stick to a political party line on.

            Blair and Bush et al had made many assertions that a credible threat was posed by Iraq’s WMD. The onus is therefore on them to PROVE that this was the case. They completely failed to prove that at the time of the invasion that Iraq bore us ANY threat whatsoever from unlawful WMDs. In fact the more that they tried to prove it, the more they were proving the opposite, as inspectors visited piles of sand and rubble that they had been reliably informed by Cheney’s intelligence bods at Langley, were actually current active labs, factories and weapons.

            The sensible thing to do would have been allow the inspectors to finish the job that they had been tasked with, which would have been a lot cheaper, easier and had far less bloodshed and would have only taken about another 4 months.

            I cannot forgive the tories for their blindness on that policy and their irrational rush to an unnecessary and unlawful war.

            I cannot forgive that I was driven to protest against that war alongside socialists and Marxists against a policy that the tories supported. I also hated that these Marxists and socialists tried to turn the anti-Iraq war movement into an exclusively left wing movement.

            I attended one meeting where they were very hostile to tories, but they welcomed labour members with open arms, even though it was the labour government who created the shoddy case for war.

            I found socialists and Marxists almost impossible to reason with at these events even when we were in total and complete agreement on why the war was wrong. They could not get past a psychological block caused by their blind hatred and pure unadulterated bigotry.

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          • Dubya says:

            I’m glad a socialist marxist like me had nothing to do with Iraq.

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        • 108
          Wombat 18 says:

          The Argies have got their eyes on the Malvinas again.

          Trouble is, the armed forces have been so decimated these last 13 years we couldn’t mount a campaign like that again.

          Well done, the One-eyed Scottish Idiot.

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          • albacore says:

            Thank heaven we now have a leader with the foresight to demolish the Royal Navy’s only fixed-wing aircraft carrier and her aircraft.
            Shame, though, that the Argies will have to twiddle their digits for ten years until the next carrier’s been cobbled together; and then another umpteen years before Dave’s successors can resurrect some Sopwith Pups to stock it with.
            Still, the foreign aid we keep giving them should have bought them a good few super Exocets by then.

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          • it'll all be over by christmas says:

            Call me Dave is a complete nimrod.

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          • misterned says:

            Good job the Argies have even less capability to launch an invasion now then eh?

            Besides the Argentines know that sometime in the next 15 odd years, the EU will take over our seat on the Security council, and with the right palms being greased, with relation to oil deals etc, the UN and the EU will order us to hand over the Falklands to Argentina without a shot being fired.

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    • 92

      You missed the last bit off when the Labour Party was swept back into power with a thousand seat majority with Ed at its head nationalising the whole country within five minutes of taking office. The glorious thousand year reich that followed …

      BTW, who’s your dealer?

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  32. 77
    HappyUK says:

    So what about Tonails Robinson, Sir Michael Shite et bloody al. All toadying up to the previous government, none of them ever doing any serious probing into (say) the misbehaviour of troughing MPs.

    If ever you wanted an example of lazy, sloppy, sycophantic journalism, those people personify it.

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  33. 78
    Steve Miliband says:

    Ashcroft!

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  34. 83
    IDS Marriage Guidance paid by the taxpayer (Lord Strathclyde & Mad Nads need not apply) says:

    Work and Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan Smith will this week promise to pump money into keeping couples together, and encouraging them to tie the knot.

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  35. 86
    Wikipedia says:

    Who funds Labour?

    Crow was a member of the Communist Party of Great Britain and then the Communist Party of Britain after the CPGB’s dissolution, between 1983 and 1995, when he left to join Arthur Scargill’s Socialist Labour Party (SLP).

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    • 110
      Wombat 18 says:

      Moscow Central have funded Labour for years. That might have dried up now, explaining Labour’s dire finances. They need to get back into power again quick so that they can replenish the coffers.

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  36. 91
    Eeu to me says:

    So the banks are still gambling with their funds,well it appears they need a visit to gamblers anonymous.

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  37. 93
    Andrew Efiong says:

    Interesting. It looks a bit partisan, especially since we know how close Labour are to the City, for example cronies like Sir Fred Goodwin, Lady Vadera or the haughy hedge fund manager Paul Myners who became Gordon Brown’s City minister. Plus Ed Ball’s brother is a bond trader with a telephone number salary.

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  38. 96
    Sir William Waad says:

    This ‘Bureau’ may be clumsy and inaccurate but it is still worrying that the Conservatives rely so much on narrow financial interests for their support, just as it is worrying that Labour rely so much on a few large trade unions. There was a time when the great majority of the Tories’ funding came from the ordinary membership, through the local party organisations, who also had a strong influence over the selction of candidates. Increasingly, the Conservative Party is becoming a lobby for a small plutocratic class rather than a true national party of conservatives, libertarians and patriots.

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    • 188
      misterned says:

      “a true national party of conservatives, libertarians and patriots.”

      UKIP is having to take over that role and doing a far better job of it that the “Conservative party” or the “Conservative and Unionist party”

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  39. 97
    pointless observations says:

    How is this “investigative journalism”? All you have to do is look up the (public) list of donors then google them. I could do it in half a day on my own, no need for a £2M team.

    If the BIJ want to be worthy of their name, perhaps they could investigate the huge levels of corruption in local government or PFI schemes. There are scams on all over the place and it is costing £billions – kickbacks, collusion, friend’s companies approved, assets sold for pennies, it goes on and on.

    BIJ, start with Portsmouth council (leader a Russian spy) or Glasgow council (leader a Mafia pal) and take it from there. I find it frankly amazing that the “Glasgow Digger” (one man no budget) has revealed more about the corruption and Mafia in Glasgow than all the big money journo research teams. Pathetic.

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    • 117
      Wombat 18 says:

      Well said, but one suspects this Bureau is politically motivated and not run by journalists at all. The kindest thing you could call them is hacks but even that ephithet may not do them justice.

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  40. 98
    Pesto V Mair says:

    So Radio 4 is doing well in attracting a large audience. But the BBC ain’t happy because most of them is white. Look you BBC dullshits 90% of the population is white so what else do you expect?

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  41. 101

    Excellent, Guido. Of course, The Guardian is running this and there is a predictable hatefest going on there. Have quoted your article to see what they make of it.

    Beeb are on it as well. Link to complaints form is here

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/forms/

    Use it. Hit the bastards

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  42. 112
    Wombat 18 says:

    Anybody know who funds The Bureau of Investigative Journalism?

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  43. 119
    Biffo says:

    They are journalists – move along, no real news here.

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  44. 124
    Tom Baldwin says:

    When will this conservative led coalition do something right ?

    Now they have aggravated the Armed Forces

    Nearly 80% of soldiers have said they would consider leaving the services because of cuts, a leader of an Army support group said today.

    Julie McCarthy, chief executive of the Army Families Federation, spoke out as the Government was accused of backtracking on enshrining the military covenant into law.

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    • 134
      Gordon Brown says:

      Disgraceful behaviour.

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    • 181
      albacore says:

      Once upon a time it was guns or butter
      Now it’s all bungs down the Lib/Lab/Con gutter

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    • 191
      misterned says:

      I refer you to the above comment at number 61:

      “Excellent moment on Today this morning. Interviewed Tim Collins about the Military Covenant. He blamed the Labour Govt for the destruction of the Regimental System and the fact that there is no money for the woes of the Armed Forces. After a couple of “Yes but surely…..” questions which were rebuffed and the original point reinforced we very quickly moved on. Obviously not on message.”

      Labour screwed the economy so that there is NO MONEY LEFT! The current cuts are caused by “Black Wednesday every week” LABOUR!

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      • 205
        albacore says:

        And Dave and his predecessors were so infinitely useless in opposition that, like Blair, they were just swept along like helpless little lambs before the Brown tsunami?
        This is not the place to enumerate the complete insanities of the current government, so I’ll mention just one for you to wax lyrical upon:
        Why the blue fizzles have Dave and his political pygmies not got the nous or the pluck to scrap the monstrous foreign aid budget – which they have increased, ALL on borrowed money?

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  45. 126
    Anonymous says:

    Bureau of Investigative Labour Journalism

    i.e.

    BILJ

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    Diane says:

    I don’t care that much where parties get their cash from… but I would like to see it limited to personal donations only. And to have a limit on them.

    That way to have money for campaiging they’d actually have to have a large number of people supporting them.

    And on a plus note we’d have a lot less spin.

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  48. 144
    Jack Profumo says:

    Guido

    Can we please have Totty Watch with Mrs Gove in her knickers…

    We know Zanu Labour are Guidoised

    But the Tories must be now as well…

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  49. 147
    Bob says:

    When are we going to get a list of Labour donors for the last 13 years ?

    To compare with the” beneficiaries” of the PFI who have ripped us off some totally…

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  50. 156
    Ed Miliband says:

    Spare some change, Bob?

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  51. 163
    Hmmm........ says:

    Despite owning a bank acquired in very dubious circumstances which are currently being investigated by the SFO Mr Rowland is not a banker or in any way related to the city?

    Are you quite sure about that?

    Looks like the windowlickers here have swallowed that line whole, listen to them squeal and defend the indefensible and bleat on about how it’s all OK because Labour scumbags are all in it too.

    Pretty feeble.

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  52. 165
    Stratford Conservative says:

    And don’t forget that David Potter, founder of the BIJ and key provider of funds for it is of course a Labour Donor.

    Bureau for Investigative Journalism founded by Labour donor, no one really surprised

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  53. 170
    Professor Henry Brubaker, Institute for Studies says:

    I believe the Daily Mash has covered this issue adequately

    http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/tories-get-100%25-of-funding-from-people-who-don%27t-like-socialism-201102093525/

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  54. 173
    Anonymous says:

    Fact remains that tory backers are only a few rich boys paying to have scumbag tories shit over the people.

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  55. 174
    Gideon Osboobery says:

    Easily explained. They gave me all that money because of the bad weather.

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  56. 176
    El Ingenioso Hidalgo says:

    He put that question about interest rates and inflation on the blog in 2004. I’m sure there’s quite a few things we all know now that we didn’t seven years ago…

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  57. 177
    annnnoyperson says:

    So I was right to delete the BIJ email when I found it in my spam folder at work?

    Great!

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  58. 179
    Clamity Clarke says:

    You don’t get do you….apologists

    Yes Labour is partly funded by the unions. But you know this fact, the accounts are published along with the sums involved. Some MP’s are sponsored by a Union, but again you know who they are and the sums involved. You may not like it but a Union is a perfectly legal organization, of which 6m people have joined voluntarily….including, I may add, many 100,000’s of Tory supporters

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  59. 184
    Local Scouser Luciana Berger says:

    Pwoperty developers? That reminds me of the riches being made from Labour’s own “affordable homes” targets. Basically, we flooded city’s with shite housing that chavs can live in at the expensive of much more desirable housing that familys might want to live in, that don’t get covered in sick every saturday night and where the lifts don’t smell of piss.

    You may remember Dr Anwar Ansari, the wannabe labour councillor that our NE rejected. I think he donated some cash to Alan Johnson’s leadership campaign a few years back in order so Alan could press to build more “affordable” housing.

    He gave me £4k for my campaign. I was so grateful I asked a question for him in Parliament.

    http://www.theyworkforyou.com/wrans/?id=2010-10-04a.10589.h&s=luciana+berger+private#g10589.q0

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  60. 187
    Mine d'Boggles says:

    Well, well. So it wasn’t the Big Issue sales team and the rag n’ bone men who were supporting the Tories after all. I am shocked to the core.

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  61. 192
    Desperate Dan says:

    Robert Peston believes every word of the BIJ’s report and he is using the auspices of the BBC to publicise it. He’s even made it the subject of his blog.

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    • 194
      No wonder Dan is desperate? says:

      And you believe this blog’s version of the truth, which is that someone who owns a bank (as Mr Rowland does) isn’t a banker and is no way related to the city.

      You’re as much a credulous moron swallowing whole what ever partisan bull shit is fed your way as any NuLab drone.

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      • 197
        The Miliband/Balls Smear Suite says:

        Robert agreed to publicise this report so that we’d have an excuse to bring it up at PMQs. As a BBC employee, Guardian reader and Labour supporter, he obviously agreed.

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        • 198
          Logic fail says:

          Yes, and the FT, Times, Spectator and Telegraph also publicised this story in order to help Ed Balls.

          Do keep quiet when the adults are talking, you’re way over your head.

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          • Sub Editor says:

            …which reflects badly on the pisspoor quality of journalism in this country. They’ll publish any old tosh if it comes wrapped up in a press release.

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          • Logic fail says:

            no, it reflects badly on the readership of this blog; the press release was correct and Guido was wrong and has made a bit of a tit of himself

            The Tories biggest donor owns a bank and yet you lot all buy the line that he somehow isn’t a banker because Guido says so?

            Moronic Sheep that you are.

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  62. 193
    Clamity Clarke says:

    Funny…. The very extensive list of individuals phone hacked…… Not a single Tory MP…..Funny that !!!!!

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    • 208
      Desperate Dan says:

      That should be “the very extensive list of people who like to imagine that they’ve been hacked but have no proof ….”.
      Tory MPs are mostly fairly rational and don’t go round fantasising about phone tapping.

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  63. 199
    John Ward says:

    Much as I would be delighted to see the BIJ’s grandiloquent bollocks brought down a peg or seven, you’re splitting hairs here, Guido.
    Let’s keep it balanced: Labour is bankrolled 30% by the Unions and 20% by champagne Socialists. The Tories are bankrolled 25% by people who got rich by dubious means and emptied the Treasury. Anoter 20% comes from Champagne Tories.
    What’s the difference between Murdoch and Charlie Whelan? Fuck all.

    A plague on the House in which they both sit. Read the facts in full
    http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2011/02/09/in-politics-money-does-rather-more-than-talk/

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    • 209
      I'll be watching you says:

      The rest of Labour funds that don’t come from the Unions is made up from – 45% friends of Israel, 30% sleazy foreign businessmen and 25% owners of PFI consortia (the three groups overlap and are are entirely interchangeable).

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  64. 207
    Anonymous says:

    For a start, Rowland owns a bank (http://tinyurl.com/6lau4yw), runs an investment company (http://tinyurl.com/6fqvbey) and on top of that he has been involved in numerous aggressive M&A activities, so much so that he was looked into by the Takeover Panel (http://tinyurl.com/66c9gcb). The Guardian calls him a ‘swashbuckling financier’, the Times a ‘City tycoon’, and a “colourful deal-maker” by Moneyweek whop has run an ‘listed investment vehicle’.

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  65. 210
    Kered Ybretsae says:

    I think you should be showing, the LuxuryLeftLeakers, how the job should REALLY be done!

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