The PPE Crowd
After last night’s documentary Guido has been doing some digging around the Oxford days of our ruling elite. With a little help from a studious co-conspirator, some of the clippings from the 80s editions of the Cherwell make for a fascinating read. There is no doubt that the star of last night’s Posh and Posher had to be “man of the people” Jacob Rees Mogg. It seems he hasn’t changed much from his dreamy spires days:
Guido will save the notorious tales of a certain “Eight minute Eddie” for another day.
The man’s a complete twat, and it isn’t anything to do with his background or education.
You’re being kind, dear.
“played the market”…! Any fool can play the market if they have capital to start with. Did he get his capital from hard graft of a fucking cheque from his daddy?
I rather suspect he ‘played the market’ in the sense that daddy gave him a million quid for his 16th birthday and he put it in the bank at 7% interest or whatever the rate was back then. And then played with the interest.
Paying people to hold umbrellas over his head on the cross country run. FFS.
A latter-day Warren Buffet – I think not.
The Ritz is open to all, is it not?
So is the chippy.
Proper comedy value though; wondering WTF he’s gibbering on about is amusing for a couple of minutes every once in a while.
He certainly made Dave look a Twat. So he can’t be all bad
I think his intervention was carefully aimed at wracking DC’s nerves.
Jacob Rees-Mogg (Con, NE Somerset) creaked to his mid 19th century feet and let rip with surprising force.
Citing Margaret Thatcher, he told Mr Cameron to stick to his economic policy because ‘there is no alternative!’ Oh, baby, that sent Labour into delighted orbit. They waved their Order Papers, convinced that the mere mention of Mother T would have the country recoiling. Quite a few Tories hoorayed, too.
That left only the two front benches, the first occupied by Mr Cameron and his ministers. They froze, as though suspended in a hoar frost.
The second front bench was occupied by the more prominent Lib Dem backbenchers. Collective horror. Thatcher!
Had Sir Menzies Campbell (NE Fife) only had some hair, it would have stood to attention.
A good education does not equate to intelligence, character, judgment, charisma, manners, empathy etc etc.
This twat can not even answer letters to constituents. It is about time MPs listened an acted on behalf of their constituents rather than personal and part interest.
Blair, Brown, Balls, Straw, Milliband and the press slugretary Campbell all act in their own private interest before party and then national interest.
Are the Met going to investigate all the MPs and Lords for expense fiddling? It is in the public and national interest that the electorate has confidence in politicians. Campbell and BBC should be lobbying as much for this as the phone hacking. After Campbell’s contribution to the Iraq war, cash for honurs sham investigation, false intelligence document that he sexed up, he, once again, has the bare faced cheek to raise his head in public. He and Blair need to be investigated for war crimes, cash for honours, expenses all of which bring politics into disrepute. Let us have a proper criminal investigation into his and Blair’s actions over all of this, and, let us not forget the tragic death of Dr Kelly that he has so much to answer for.
I think he looks like Mandelson in that still.
Vox Populi Vox Dei, how very common language of this MP. Also missed from the clip is that his wife tried to become an MP in the neighbouring constituency. And daddy is not an MP, but a Peer, so that makes all the difference! No, no dynasty there.
Don’t forget Wedgie Benn’s little political dynasty too. And the Milibands. And the Dromey-Harmans.
All their kids will be coming through the ranks in the fullness of time.
And the Kinnocks and the Straws
I’m pretty sure his sister, the chavvily named Assunta, has been trying to get a nice safe Tory seat as well.
Mentioned in the show.
Annunziata Rees-Mogg. Dave asked her to shorten it to Nancy Mogg and quite rightly she refused.
I had only heard the name (more like a nun’s name than a posh name).
Written down, it looks decidedly forrin, esp if you’re from Somerset.
As Ed and Dave exemplify, no one in their right mind is going to vote for Annunciata, spawn of the landed gentry or what ever.
… are they Harriet?
That said Labour parachuted some Hampstead-teenager-bint called Letitia or something into a northern seat last year.
You’d have thought the ‘LETITIA’ plates on her car would be a turn off, but no you could pin a red rosette on a dog turd up there and the benefit-soakers would still vote for it. Apparently.
The current crop of politicians are all in it for themselves, that’s why the UK is in the dire state it is in.
We need to make public sector cuts, but are the MP’s getting a pay or perks cut – No. Are the heads of councils being told their wages can only be £100k max – No. Are councils firing middle management – No. Are expensive civil servants being fired – No. Are lobby firms (backhanders) being cut to the knees – No.
So the answer is, those that “rule” are in it for themselves, and what they can screw out of you, and they want to make sure you never get to where they are so you can get back at them, i.e. throwing the bankers in prison.
Yep. That’s it. The MPs need to take a 15 – 20% paycut or 15 – 20% cut in their numbers. Then they can reasonably point to the sacrifices they personally are making.
If they fail to do that simple thing to demonstrate that they really are ‘all in this together’ then they’re beaten before they start.
I think MPs should be beaten before we start cutting them by 20%. The human head accounts for 20% of a person’s body mass (a figure convenient for the purpose of this comment purely because I just made it up), so it’s obvious which 20% we should be removing from of all our MPs.
can’t be their brains then
Mogg looks fucking creepy in that photo. Looks like an upper class serial killer.
That would be me.
Agreed!
Guido, you want to send a researcher/intern to the Bodleian Library in Oxford to look up the only surviving copy of “The History of Oxford University Conservative Association”, published in 1995, and subsequently suppressed by OUCA itself.
It contains juicy details of OUCA scandals stretching back to the 1950s, including such luminaries as William Hague, Michael Gove, Dominic Grieve, Jeremy Hunt, and everybody’s favourite Returning Officer, Tim Hames…
well done Guido. Keep digging..Try to get copies of ‘Passing Wind’ (ed. Ian Hislop) which is equally irreverent.
Yes, ’tis curious that hey are all Sixth form Geeks who have followed a ‘PPE’ degree course. (I must be missing something here, only good old Humanities & Social Sciences through the OU).
Nairy one of the twats have ever ahd a proper job like stacking shelves in a superstore, Burger Flipping for Mac D’s, cleaning Latrines, digging hoes in the ground or working in a factory, or signing up for the Armed Forces of Britain. They all appear to suffer that disease when they enter Parlyment of ‘Big-Shotism’ and ‘Delusions of Grandeur’. (‘All Animals ear Equal, But some are more equal than Others)!!
What a bunch of alternate universe living Michael Mouse twunts…..
on the other hand, losing a child to whatever it was happened to Cameron’s, is self-evidently a dose of reality from which I doubt he was immune, wilfully or otherwise
You appear to have missed that David Dimbleby was in the Bullingdon Club. What a shame.
I’m cool with posh people, and to be honest some of the more stunning people I know went to Eton.
But the presumption of office that some have is a little sick making. And if I might ask, who are the sheep that vote for the ‘continuation of the family clan’ (Kinnocks to Kennedys)?
I thought we’d seen the last of him when he admitted “everytime I open my mouth I seem to lose votes”.
Guess Jim Waterson doesn’t have much academic work to do this term.
I’m afraid that this particular muppet was precisely the reason why I kept well-away from the debating society.
I liked that one – article that is
http://blogs.pressgazette.co.uk/editor/2011/01/17/wall-of-silence-from-five-news-organisations-on-press-gazettes-phone-hacking-questions/
Thought for the day:
Be careful what you wish for…….
or
Let he who is without sin……..
…..try to avoid jail for perjury
It’s worse if you’re the one who brings the action to court in the first place. They get really cross about that.
Suspect the cat is out of the bag now. In their haste to trap Coulson (and by association Cameron) the pack has resulted in the whole thing being investigated properly. ALL the people/papers involved will be exposed. ALL the hacked personalities (and their grubby little stories) will be exposed.
Tough.
If they wait a few more months they will be able to see the wood without the trees as rusty will have sold it and take a few more journo’s out as it seems the details are still trickling out as the future pound signs and hopeful public adoration to some of the supposed 6000 lottery winners of hacking hits the tv channels and public.
If it means that little creep McGuire is going to get a full anal inspection from plod, then I’m all for it. The Mirror has been well ahead of the pack and up to its eyeballs in this hacking malarkey.
Typing the default password to anything is NOT hacking. There is a difference. It’s difficult for money grabbing MP’s and “celebrities” to understand, seeming is they are uneducated dicks.
Isn’t the hacking due to the fact of the “hackees” being too stupid to understand they should change the default pin to one of their own choosing?
try arguing that you accidentally called someone and accidentally typed in the default pin for that particular phone in court, so it’s not hacking
gary mckinnon is going to the us to face the death penalty for something similar
He sounds like a complete bell-end.
”In 1997 he was Tory candidate for the historically Labour seat of Central Fife. He canvassed a largely working class neighbourhood in his Bentley with his nanny; he lost in the 1997 election.”
He canvassed a largely working class neighbourhood in his Bentley with his nanny;
It’s like something Evelyn Waugh would write.
Hahahaha. He’s the Yin to Prescott’s Yang.
“John Prescott’s accent certainly stereotypes him as an oaf”
Buffoon.
If it raised Prescott’s blood pressure then that has to be good news. The purple-faced imbecile must surely blow soon.
Prescott’s basic abilities were stretched when he was serving gin and tonics.
I bet you’ve got a funny accent too. Just not the sort that tossers like this would believe was identical to prescotts.
I must say though: I have a posher accent than folks I knew that went to my area’s 16th Century Independent school.
Should that read gins & tonic?
Prescott just IS an oaf and a complete thick violent idiot, he doesn’t need and accent to prove it.
Any chance of any normal people getting to represent the electorate?, most of them seem to be caricatures lost in a forgotten land, the archetypical Tory’s and the pretend Labour socialists, they still all spend 80% of their time indulging in factional wars whilst the Country disappears down the shitter.
In their world, that IS normal
One of the idiocyncracies about Britain is the way people speak…
Nowhere else in the Western world has an “upper class” (“Oxford”) accent remained…
Why ?
Now even Old Etonians try to speak with an “estuary accent”…
Er, because English accents specific to English locations can only exist in England??
How many Texan accents do you get in England??
Just the one whenever George phoned with my ‘To Do’ list for the week.
Nope. “posh” isn’t regional. Oddest of all is posh scottish people talking like that.
I’d imagine the actual regional accent of Oxford its self would have been something like the archers.
The answer is really: posh schools. One’s accent forms and sticks between the ages of 11-15.
Yep. My kids went to a posh school near Dunfermline – don’t laugh – they do exist. I bet it was one of their kids who kicked Brown’s eye out in the mythical game of Rugby which is why he hated Psh Public School boy Blair so much. And Cameron.
Now a Fife accent is impenetrable to native English speakers but St McCakes were all practically home counties accents even though they were majority Scots.
Yep. My kids went to a posh school near Dunfermline – don’t laugh – they do exist. I bet it was one of their kids who kicked Brown’s eye out in the mythical game of Rugby which is why he hated Psh Public School boy Blair so much. And Cameron.
Now a Fife accent is impenetrable to native English spe*k*rs but St McCakes were all practically home counties accents even though they were majority Scots.
The “Oxford” accent is not from Oxford !
It is my understanding that the ‘Posh English’ accent is, in fact, a German accent in imitation of several generations of Germans on the English throne. It was common practice in the royal courts of Europe to speak like the monarch – which is why Spanish is spoken with a Hapsburg lisp. Ask Ed Milliput!
There also used to be something called BBC English. Not sure what happened to that since all these foreigners took to reading the news though.
HM still retains her crystal tones.
http://www.labourlist.org/state-of-the-party-survey-january-2011
Yup. You voted wrong, vote again, vote again, vote correctly this time.
I made the same mistake too. “Tamils for Labour” must have their say.
F*ck, they are incompetent tossers.
Oddly, I don’t mind Jacob Rees Mogg, he is a character and an eccentric and I think the world is richer with people like that.
Now, Ed Balls on the other hand….
Don’t be howwible.
Exactly, eccentrics are usually pretty harmless when it comes to effecting everyone’s future, but loonies from Fifeshire and Norfolk are deadly.
Not sure your point is totally valid, Barnacle.
Weren’t Alexander, Ghengis Khan and others that followed a bit eccentric yet very detrimental to the future or lack of it for those who fell victim to their eccentricity.
BTW think it’s ‘affecting’ in this case. Rees-Mogg would know.
I am certain that the opposition are in delight that Rees-Mogg is on the Conservative benches.
As I made very clear on yesterday’s documentary: “Vox populi, Rodney. Vox populi.
ooh, Eddie George or Eddie Milliband?
Eddie Stobart or Eddie Balls?
Eddie Days?
Yo!
Eddie Waring or Eddie Mair?
Eddie Cation, Eddie Cation and Eddie Cation.
Applause!
Applause indeed – the sort of Eddie Fying comment this site needs.
Long live Pseudo Names!
Sue Doe-Naims don’t live here any more.
But she still claims expenses for it.
As we speak some of his pals in the Hoc
are arranging for him to have a ‘light fall’
which will keep him away every Wednesday
at 12 o’clock
“Eight minute Eddie”
If this is reference to shagging and length of time to orgasm then I should be nick-named “Thirty second Dave”
It’s how much time he has spent with his constituents concerns since becoming an mp.
And I should be called 13 Year Gordon.
Yes indeed, you never bloody knew when to stop rogering us.
Unfortunately you are likely to be remembered as ‘ 60 year debt Gordon ‘.
…Sterling also fell sharply when it was reported that the bank of England’s money photocopier had jammed. Despite opening the little flap and moving the coloured lever the jam could not be discovered. Under the PFI maintenance contract an engineer call out will add a further £4 million to the UK debt.
Classic,
This had Nick,Dave and me pissing ourselves with laughter
Yes I heard that one,I suppose the contractor couldn’t get hold of the contractor he had contracted this PFI contract to who couldn’t get hold of the contractor he had contracted the contract to ,who in turn couldn’t get hold of the contractor he had contracted the contract to ,who in turn couldn’t get hold of the contractor he had contracted the contract to , who in turn couldn’t get hold of the contractor he had contracted the contract to ,who rang phone number of the little money copier shop on Birchfield rd Perry Barr but got no reply as the guy out was fixing the other money copier on the opposite side of the same room as the faulty money copier who if he had the got call when he was out of the room would have charged for a new journey and more time to fix the money copier,but the money copier required spare parts and round and round we go.
Sometimes a lot of embellishment has a little bit of truth hidden in it,true or false.
Twit Iam.
For Bill Quango MP above.
Try again.
Twit Iam.
For Bill Quango MP above
Why don’t they just procure everything on ebay?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?VISuperSize&item=280621345622
Jam tomorrow, Debt today.
Doubtless technical support is outsourced to an Indian call centre.
You are probably correct. I had a small problem with my (Australian) antivirus program recently and contacted their customer services dept. for assistance. As it happened it took 5 separate contacts to resolve the issue – and each reply I got came from a different person – all of whom had Indian names. Funny that…
That was a reply to c.eng at 130.
“Eight minute Eddie”
You can’t be referring to my Ed, it’s rare that he lasts longer than 30 seconds.
He managed longer with me…….?
BTW – can you remind him this month’s cheque is late? Ta.
Which Ed? Much less with me.
Either.
So what?
‘All cock and Balls’ – which one is you!
I wish they would all go away so I could sleep at night. Having watched the programme last night I was so incensed that I even did a rant on my own blog. Thanks for the article about Jacob Rees- Mogg – I’ll link to it.
Does he know how to calculate percentages? Has he watched the bbc recently?
I thought life and people had moved on from the 1840s gentleman mp’s who had a life membership with votes from the serfs in daddies towns and villages on daddies 3000 acre estate.
The Western Isles is now the closest we have to Old Sarum. One Western Islander’s vote counts for four times as many votes as the Isle of Wight.
Life peerages don’t come with country estates thrown in. Get real.
Dirty old man!
I last more than 8 minutes. Just ask Yvette.
The secret to lasting more than eight minutes with Yvette is…..thinking about shagging Yvette.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_with_PPE_degrees_from_Oxford
99% useless people
PPE is a useless and ridiculously easy degree, a chimp could get a first (although you wonder why Ed Miliband could not get a first and David Miliband could).
How many MP’s actually have a degree in maths, physics, chemistry, biology, electronics, computing, engineering, architecture*, and other difficult subjects… none. We are ruled by an “elite” who have sh1t for brains.
* architecture requires maths to know about load bearings on walls etc. etc., not just making a pretty design.
I believe we’ve only ever had one PM with a science background.
I wonder who she was…
Mandelslime too ??
I remember reading Auberon Waugh’s autobiography.He left Oxford after one year having decided that the PPE course was rubbish and took up his writing/journalism career instead.
He was sent down. Not that that bothered him.
Now Yemen has protests. Let the whole fucking rag head region burn.
Hhhmmm, you have potential.
I do wish they wouldn’t waste all that petrol immolating themselves. have you seen the price of the fucking stuff lately. Couldn’t they just shoot themselves or drown themselves instead?
Think of the environment for God’s sake.
I do wish they wouldn’t waste all that petrol immolating themselves. Have you seen the pr*ce of the fucking stuff lately. Couldn’t they just shoot themselves or drown themselves instead?
Think of the environment for God’s sake.
PPE could be called the smatterers’ degree. A bit of philosophy, a bit of economics, and a big dollop of self-serving politics.
Ignoring Mr. Rees Mogg,isn’t the real fuse blowing aspect the fact that PPE is an Oxford only syllabus and seems expressly designed to enable political hopefuls to obtain the ‘qualifications’ to govern the rest of us. I first became aware of the course in the middle seventies when I read that some of the then Labour cabinet had done the same studies in PPE ( one, if I remember, was Shirley ‘two wafers’ Williams). Obviously you cant teach common sense, therefore we have had inflicted on us three or four generations of mostly privately educated obsessives , getting their first step on the publically funded careerist ladder.
I’m not that bothered about an MP’s background or education. I am bothered about whether they are competent and honourable. Churchill had a posh upbringing, Thatcher didn’t, but both were good leaders at a time when the country needed them. Both had a career outside politics; Churchill a military one, Thatcher a scientific one. That, I think, is more important – it gives experience of life, breadth of thinking and contact with ‘ordinary people’ (like us). That’s a far more valuable education for a politician than any amount of PPE.
The Oxbridge PPE is more like a training school for professional politicians then?
Perhaps more an unintentional insulation from reality.
and diplermats; bit like the ENA in gay Paree. All them Enarchs rule France in much trhe same way.
Agreed.
Didn’t Cameron’s PPE tutor, Professor ?, do a stint on the BBC election coverage and say he was the brightest student he’d ever taught?
Maybe it was the prof’s first day in the office then?
Gisa job.
You can be my translator.
I always do a pee-pee-eee in my bed and I don’t have to go to Oxford to do it.
Eight minute Eddie, eh?
Every time I see that boot-faced daughter of Michael Flanders on the Beeb, I have visions of the two Eds in between her steely thighs.
It isn’t pleasant, believe me.
My balls is itchy.
There are two c u n ts in your relationship, so it’s a bit crowded.
For those who have the time or inclination to hunt for it, Jacob’s obnoxiousness started far earlier. There was at least one jaw-droppingly horrific article in a sunday paper when Jacob was about 16 detailing his share dealing exploits and, from recollection, mentioning him getting the chauffeur to take him and Annunziata to dinner for her birthday at the Rees Mogg’s former stately home, Ston Easton Park (I presume for her 6th birthday).
And the sad bit is the party activists who hope to do well on the boards and get a seat will not.
Or they’ll get the crap ones.
Boris did Classics, you turd!!!!!
First ??
I was John Evelyn once – must look up the old Cherwells in the attic.
8 minute Ed / hmmmmmmmmmm , 8 mins to down a pint ? Nah
I recall the twat paying in some divi cheques at Harrods Bank, he was breathtakingly arrogant then………………………
That wall is beckoning, a punte, fuego………
And as for “Eight minute Eddie”, Guido do not delay, do not toy with our affections, no 8 veil dances, spill the beans.
Effing twerp. I didn’t have much time for Thatcher but as least she was trying to rid us of people like this.
And after all that they still cant add up…………
Comrades! Save the BBC World Service!
Irrelevant tosh about toffs.
Would Guido care to confirm that he has never knowingly used information gained by illegal access to voicemail ?
Also, did he used to have Coulson on speed dial ?
I see no logical inconsistency in JR-M claiming to be the ‘vox populi, vox dei’. It is an empirical question.
Blog’s buggered already. That was a reply to 130
You’ve got Boris on that masthead but didn’t he do Greats?
You cannot point the PPE finger at me. I don’t have a degree, I am completely uneducated without even one ‘O’Level.’ I am therefore totally innocent. Innit? Any Russian or Mong Totty about?
So David Davis was not ‘one of us’.
However he would have won the Tories the last election!! with knobs on.
I was wondering who has been tutoring the Oxford PPE students?
As I recall from Jacob RM’s days at the Oxford Union he always wore a 3-piece pin-stripe or chalk-stripe suit.
He was very odd even then as he was the only student to wear a suit and tie
but I see from the clip below his sharp accent has been dulled – is that a glottal stop as well!?
We are ruled by Herman Kahn’s New Class – a quasi-intelligentsia that wants to lord over us thickies who do the work, create the wealth and pay the taxes that keep them in luxury. As one of the first Comprehensive school attendee at Oxbridge I have spent nearly 40 years fighting these superior beings whether they be blue, red, yellow or green. And I even got a better class degree than Ed Miliband, I see from this thread.