December 12th, 2010

Quote of the Day

Alan Johnson said…

“A graduate tax is now very much back on the agenda in my book… If you are talking about inconsistency, Osborne, Cameron, Cable all voted against any graduate contribution whatsoever. But they are Premier League inconsistency. Mine’s Champions League inconsistency.”


  1. 1
    banflaw says:

    conservatives don’t believe in public goods or the public interest.


    • 3
      Neil Evans says:

      And socialists don’t believe in the public. Nanny *always* knows (expensively) best.


      • 4

        Socialists? Like those what charge others for their Wysteria Trimming? Them Socialists?




        • 7
          aadasfasd says:

          Hate-motivated reactionary peons, raised on entitlements, who neither understand nor recognise the reality underneath their inane slogans.

          That’s how I’d define those who attend student protests and shout “Tory scum” at every opportunity.


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          Oi! Lefty Wanker says:

          @Majik Nutter etc.
          Please tell us about the honourable Labour MPs who are in court at the moment fot their caring sharing expense claims would you?

          socialist scum! socialist scum! socialist scum!


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          GORDON tiggywinkle McPOTTY says:

          Tat ! stop taking the amphetamines and start going to sleep at night
          instead of sitting there in your piss soaked bed sit
          ranting at yourself under various guises
          you fucking schizo


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          Old dog no tricks says:

          You just have your understanding of socialists wrong – Cameron is NOT a Conservative – he is a marxist without the uniform ! He is as big a traitor to this nation as the c’nts who have gone before him !

          A true conservative has a social concience ! A Marxist just pretends to have a social concience !


      • 10
        banflaw says:

        if nanny is an oxbridge-educated technocrat, she sure does.


    • 5
      Gorgon McDoom says:

      My new book saved the world, Piers Morgan is going to make me President of the “FREE WORLD”. All Hail PIERS, he’s the new Dark Lord of the dark arts and Lord Sugar is pink candy-floss, Murdoch is the head LIZARD.
      Can I have some fizzy-orange nurse ?
      gimmie gimmie gimmie a man after midnight !

      Not now Sarah. oops Nappy needs changing !!!!


      • 29
        Dave's Poodle Army says:

        CON 40%, LAB 42%, LDEM 9%.


        • 35
          Mrs Growler says:

          Can you imagine that there are enough twats in this fucked up country that want the return of L*bour?

          We were screwed beyond belief and the left still want more.



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          Nick2 says:

          I can understand the entitlement class voting Labour, but don’t believe that there are millions if working voters who are eager to lose the rest of their savings/freedoms by voting Labour back in.

          And as for the Labour trolls here, I think that Cameron’s ConDems are almost as bad. But they haven’t f*cked up the country for the past 13 years.


          • Old dog no tricks says:

            Just a matter of time :)

            They have no idea what needs doing and have not got the guts to do it either ! Anyone with an economic braincell still active knows that the ‘cuts’ are not cuts at all and that the treasury will be continuing to borrow money until the next election. All the cuts did was allow the treasury to have a better ‘guess’ that they would be paying a better (the same) rate of interest come the next election. Even this is not guaranteed ! And with Georgie boy sticking his nose up the EU’s a*se regarding the bailout fund – which is going to keep growing anyway (so we’ll be borrowing more to pay our part) there is no guarantee that we will not be borrowing our way to higher interest rates a couple of years down the line ! So even the gamble is likely to be way off target ! Unless of course the pretend ‘cuts’ become even greater in the near future to keep the loan rates down !

            So – in essence – the British taxpayer will be taking more and more pain (taxation) to bail out the countries who do not want to put their people through the pain – in order to borrow money at a low rate to lend to countries who cannot afford to pay it back (which is why they cannot continue to borrow themselves in the first place !)

            Its a wonderful merry go round and the longer the music plays – the worse it will get ! But the politicians just CANNOT say “NO ! Its stopping right here !”

            And John Major on TV this morning suggests that even if the EU runs out of money for bail outs – the IMF is still there (who funds the IMF ?) but the USA is trying to print its way out of debt which had no effect last time – none so far this time – and will have none the next time(s) ! Except to reduce the USA to a (grovelling to china) debtor nation as China is buying up every scrap of GOLD & Silver it can get it’s hands on – to dump its dollars ! The USA is not in any state (like Europe) to keep handing money to the IMF to let countries keep avoiding the end to the profigacy their lefty governments (including this one) have seen fit to squander on worthless sh*te !

            Strange that a communist nation is not outspending its wealth in order to get the electorate to vote for it ! There are millions in China in poverty even though it is a wealthy nation ! They just want to earn their way out of reducing poverty rather than borrowing to no effect ! They know that if you are poor and you borrow more – you are just getting poorer ! Very simple but the pseudo democratic western leaders don’t get the basic concept ! You cannot borrow to invest whan the rate of borrowing outstrips the value of the investment ! Well you can if you are a marxist – whatever colour tie you wear !


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          Same old shit from the sam old shitters says:

          Really! So Labour are close to 1997 levels of support then? Ed Millitwat is doing a sterling job then!
          If you believe that poll, you’ll believe anything. Mori are lefty twats (like the other pollsters) who happily produce bogus polls to suit the media narrative.


          • Same old shit from the same old shitters says:

            there will be no huing parliament!! cameron will get a majority of 100!!


          • Same old shit from the sam old shitters says:

            I see some twat used the same Name. Aren’t you a clever boy then
            But pollsters produce utter shit most of the time. and pointing out that this puts Labour close to ’97 levels of support, puts the poll’s accuracy into perspective.


      • 237
        giant gonad says:

        Piers Morgan would suck you off if he thought it would help his career.


    • 6
      Atlas shrugged says:

      Now come on you don’t seriously believe that, or do you?

      So in your world conservatives are bad people and all the rest are good. Did you know that there are conservatives that genuinely believe that conservatives are good and non conservatives are all bad.

      Can you not see that we have a rather big problem here, and people like you are not helping one single bit to help the situation.

      What would you prefer, all conservatives to have their right to vote removed, their brains removed, or simply thrown into a concentration camp for re-eduction or worse?

      Or would you rather start going up little, while thinking for a change?

      Our society has been deliberately and systematically divided into virtually two equal halves. Can you not see, what is so clearly staring you full square in the face, hidden in plain sight so to speak?

      The truth is that we are all essentially good, but wholly corrupted at the same time. While party politics is simply bad ALL of the time. If for no other reason that it is largely the mechanism by which we are so carefully sliced in virtually useless, therefore completely disempowered halves.

      Where the wings are divided the center rules. Therefore the establishment that ALWAYS controls what comes out of the center can do whatever they damned well please, while people like yourself perpetuate hatred between the vast mass of ordinary people helplessly stuck in the cross-fire.

      Unless people like yourself start thinking with your hearts as well as your common sense, instead on following ever changing establishment created political dogmas, you will continue to represent the problem instead on any form of solution.

      We must all try to understand. However bad our system is, which is very bad indeed, our biggest problem as well as our most easy solution cannot be found by looking at a TV, or reading a book by God, Marx, Rand or Smith. The ONLY way that this could ever have been found, is by first looking in a mirror.

      Try it, do you really like what you see, so very much?


    • 15

      We also don’t believe in negative rights. or ‘entitlements’ as you and your ilk prefer to refer to them.

      They are inevitably bad for the majority in the long run, as is becoming clearer by the day.

      There is no ‘public good’ – only the balance of the individual good and ill, and if that upsets you then I suggest you institute your 2+2=5 policy and get that boot grinding into a human face for ever.


      • 76
        Maximus says:

        Totally bloody right. Same as ‘war on terror’ — privileging abstract nouns above human beings. My local council is so full of the shit, they cannot comprehend reason any more.


    • 101
      annnnonyperson says:

      And you, Green wedgie, what do YOU believe in? Smashing up the premises of Asian retailers? Pissing on war memorials?

      Being an utter, hypocritical arsehole? Well, you are doing a grand job. You and Alan “I am a liar and I am proud of it” Johnson are made for each other. Tell you what, book a motel room for the two of you. It’d be a civil union made in heaven.


    • 187
      Beyond The Joke says:

      And they eat babies!


    • 239
      Marx was in it for the money says:

      “conservatives don’t believe in public goods”

      And they’d be right. Public goods don’t exist outside of Utopian economic theory.

      “or the public interest.”

      Socialists are interested in the public — as long as the public interests are made to match their interests. By force, usually.


    • 299
      Yurak Hunt says:

      Fuck the poor – council types are nothing but a burden


  2. 2
    Paul Owen says:

    And World Cup hypocrisy


  3. 9
    albacore says:

    “There is a time to laugh and a time not to laugh, and this is not one of them.”
    “I believe everything and I believe nothing. I suspect everyone and I suspect no one.”
    O tempora! O mores!
    Back in 1964, Peter Sellers progressed from Fred Kite to Inspector Clouseau. Nouveau Labour seems finally to have caught up.


  4. 11
    banflaw says:

    i hopy by the way you’re all apprised of the parable of nassau county, new york.

    google it.


  5. 12
    Ivor Tapeworm says:

    The postman always thinks twice.


  6. 14
    Bled White Taxpayer says:

    Johnson’s Champion League inconsistency is a good one-liner, were it not for the fact that he’s a npower League 1 politico, who did an npower League 2 job as Home Secretary in a Carling Cup government, working for a Jonstone’s Paint Trophy Prime Minister, and now led by a leader who is in the relegation zone of the Youth Alliance.

    (That’s it. All football knowledge exhausted)


  7. 17
    Pensioner says:

    Sack the Squeaker…


  8. 19
    Sarah Tweet says:


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        Grumpy Old Man says:

        Well if true, (and the story IS from the Mail), Hattie has clearly gone Polly. I’m sure her tax-paying constituents will fully agree with her that the Benefits System should be generous enough to double as Overseas Aid. Or just maybe they might decide that the benefits system is over-generous at a time when they have to cut back. On the other hand, the Looting Party may have realised that the workshy, other assorted scroungers and those totally dependent on an over-extended State are their core vote now.


        • 40
          bergen says:

          It’s starting to look like Labour is retreating to the wilderness of opposition.Things are going to be rough for a few years so we need them to return to a Foot mentality.So long as CMD sorts out the gerrymandered constituency boundaries and postal votes in time,he should keep them out.Sadly he seems not to have the balls to sort out the BBC.


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        Nick2 says:

        Only the MonS is reporting the story – but the article does say that Harman ‘stood by’ her remarks.

        Apparently ‘She was told that if it was found the majority of people sending remittances were on benefits, critics would say it proved that they are receiving too much in State handouts if they can still send money abroad,’ according to one person who was present.


        • 238
          Old dog no tricks says:

          A while back Ireland had a problem with Poles flying to Ireland and signing on every two weeks ! The Irish solution was to make everyone sign on weekly making it less cost effective ! (Not much reported in the press over here !!!)

          A friends wife was made redundant and applied to go on an accountancy course (funded by the Irish Government) out of the 30 people on the course only 3 were Irish including herself ! The rest were eastern europeans – even though in the ‘interview’ stage there were (according to her) at least 50 Irish people applying for the course in her session !

          Just wonder how the system works over there and whether the number of taxpayer funded jobs that went to non UK Nationals over the past 10 years in the UK has any connection ! Maybe its governments being seen to ‘do something’ but not for US ? It does seem to me that the government is ‘funding’ projects all the time which are (so say) successful – but the people having benefitted are never to be found ! Makes you think !


      • 60
        anonymouse in the DWP skirting boards says:

        Obviously paying them more than they need to live on here, so no problem in reducing their benefits then?


    • 38
      Anonymous says:

      The Jefferson will be a pile of ashes by the end of the week.


  9. 22
    Grumpy Old Man says:

    Guido. Ref the first 16 posts, I admire your altruism in letting the mindless in off the streets to shelter for the night.
    Following Postman Pat’s analogy, Sunday pub league is the standing of himself and his fellows in the Looting Party.


  10. 23
    In a League of his own says:


  11. 27
    a ‘flirtatious’ and ‘intimate’ relationship says:

    Lib Dem aide was Russia’s best spy in 30 years, says top KGB defector


  12. 33
    A Pensioner says:

    Liz Hurley shagging Shane Warne.

    Well done Liz.

    No hope of Shane’s comeback now, and the Ashes are ours.


  13. 39
    genghiz the kahn says:

    al beeb suggest Johnson is short of accuracy.

    “”But they are Premier League inconsistency. Mine’s Champions League inconsistency.”

    Mr Johnson’s office later made it clear that he meant to use the term “Championship” instead of “Champions League” – which is the level above Premier League for English football teams.”

    Johnson can’t work out if he wants to knife Red Ed in the back or just hit the lithping, gurner nappy changer over the head with a bottle.


    • 64
      Anonymous says:

      You really couldn’t blame Johnson for wanting to bottle Milliturd,he’s such a loathsome gobshite i imagine the queue behind Johnson would stretch into millions.


  14. 46
    car boot in the frost time says:

    Fuck, Tat has stopped taking his tablets or the tribes are revolting.


  15. 48
    Gordon Brown says:

    today I will be a hamper of millionaires’ shortbread


  16. 55
    The Court of Public Opinion says:

    I see newbies got to chapter 3 of his Economics for Dummies book. At this rate he’ll have heard of Keynesianism by Easter.


  17. 56
    Anonymous says:

    Anyone know where Aaron Porter lives?.


  18. 57
    Greg Beales says:

    Speaking of footballing analogies, not even the prescence of David Cameron could secure the bid for the 2018 World Cup.
    Cameron has to be the most ineffective Prime Minister in livimg memory and that is a cast iron guarantee


  19. 61
    Martin Day says:

    Quote of the decade

    David Cameron

    Things got out of hand & we’d had a few drinks. We smashed the place up and Boris set fire to the toilets.” David Cameron, 1986, recalling his time at Oxford university.


    • 67
      Anonymous says:

      FFS, get a grip.


      • 69
        Martin Day says:

        Yes I would like to, around David Cameron’s neck.

        He is a joke of a Prime Minister and can’t even secure the 2018 World Cup bid for England.

        I say “Kettle the Conservatives”


        • 92
          Labour are mongtastic! says:

          So let’s decide which is worse: throwing breadrolls and getting drunk three decades ago, or being a deranged bully who totally fucked the country up as an unelected prime minister and still refuses to take any responsibility for it. Hmmm, that’s a tough one.


          • Grumpy Old Man says:

            May I suggest adding: taking 10 years to write 40,000 words while living off the taxpayer?


          • annnnonyperson says:

            Don’t forget that when he was a student Brown took empty bags to the parties of fellow students, rather than the bottles he had promised to bring. Sort of carried that motif over into his political life, didn’t he?


        • 95
          cynical_old_bag says:

          England doesn’t need to host the World Cup. We can’t afford the impending Olympics.


        • 161
          Martin Days Mummy says:

          You’re wittering again Martin,and wipe that dribble up.


    • 305
      Lord Carrington's binoculars says:

      He only started Oxford in Autumn 1985. How could he ‘recall’ things months later?


      F*ck off.


  20. 66
    Julian Assange says:

    Guido Fawkes warns Cameron: Listen to political bloggers or we mutiny
    David Cameron has been warned by poloitical bloggers that they will sabotage future legislation if he does not listen to their concerns


  21. 68
    Moley says:

    If you read the details, the Coalitions proposals are for many potential graduates a graduate tax in all but name.

    Fixed deductions from salary and a debt that will never be cleared.

    I intend to encourage my children’s foreign languages so that they have the option of attending a decent foreign University instead of paying for an expensive crap British one.

    And if they wanted to emigrate after graduation, leaving their debts behind them, I would have no qualms about encouraging them to do so.
    If Bankers can pass their debts on to the state, I see no reason why the rest of us shouldn’t emulate them.

    I can understand the student’s anger; the Coalition has put Aid to India’s space project above the future of the country, threatening future Graduates with a lifetime of debt in the process.

    The opinion polls are saying that many people view the Coalition as even more awful than Labour, which if you think about it, is one hell of a verdict.


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      GORDON tiggywinkle McPOTTY says:

      I have yet to see one student protester saying cut overseas aid
      or indeed any otherof many money wasting government projects
      like public services
      their protest is totally self centered all about me me me !


      • 99
        All further comment is superfluos really says:

        They’d be better protesting to their respective universties regarding the quality of some courses offered ;lectures being taken by research students;absentee lecturers;seminars of over 30 students and the fact that after 3 years and approx £30k they find their degrees are almost worthless in the jobs market and that for every unskilled job of around £9k pa they apply for there are 40-50 plus graduates applying……………


        • 203
          AC1 says:

          > They’d be better protesting to their respective universties regarding the quality of some courses offered

          They will do when they’ve got a 9 grand bill for a load of lefty shite.

          “That wasn’t good enough, I want my money back” is about to hit lala lecture land and it scares them silly.


    • 153
      The Court of Public Opinion says:

      Cast Iron: “Correct. Fuck our schools and hospitals, we’re gonna waste your money on bailing out banks, the irish, india, iraq, pakistan, afghanistan, the olympics, pampering the royals, propping up the French army and pointless attempts to host even bigger football failures than England were on the field this summer.”


      • 208
        AC1 says:

        The government cant do Schools and Hospitals either.

        All bureaucrat directed funding is inefficient. Give the money to citizens to spend themselves.


        • 266
          Old dog no tricks says:

          Indeed – reduce income tax to 10% (abolish all other taxes) and tell everyone to fund their health and schooling needs out of the savings ! Allow a 2% local tax to fund services REQUIRED by the public for their local area – established and provided by elected representatives dealing with tendering for these services.

          Provide minimal basic care with no add ons for emergency treatment through an insurance deal purchased through tendering to private companies.

          Welfare should be funded through self provided insurance. If you haven’t worked – get your parents to provide !

          The civil service could be a tenth (or less) of what exists today if all it had to do was put required services out to tender (excepting law & order, national defence and genuinely physically sick – from childhood – unable to work classes – non of this unprovable back ache or stress nonsense – they should obtain insurance cover while fit and working to cover these issues !).

          Pensions should be privately funded too ! The requirement to attain more in order to provide better cover for ones self and family would be the incentive to drag the scumbags out of their self imposed worthless existances. Or they could put up with very very basic assistance for themselves and their prodgeny.

          I do realise that many would turn to crime rather than pull a decent days work – but they do that anyway so the taxpaying public would lose nothing except the bills these scumbags cost and expect to get for nothing !


    • 225
      Moley says:

      It is of course possible that the Government has calculated that the expenditure on foreign aid is minute in comparison to the benefits to be obtained from the resulting export orders.

      I rather doubt that Cameron has actually made that connection, and if he has, he has clearly failed to optimise aid expenditure to maximise exports.

      And if Government has made that connection, then the Coalition is foolish in the extreme not to have explained it properly. The media Gurus at CCHQ, polishing their pants on huge salaries are clearly less useful than lace toilet paper.

      The trolls should note that there is no one left actually unreservedly supporting the coalition. Cameron is destroying the Conservatives far more effectively than they ever could.

      Public opinion has its own momentum; popularity and support has to be maintained for difficult measures to be implemented, before it is too late

      Arrogantly ignoring the opinion polls is a mistake.


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    far too obvious says:

    why don’t young people who really want learn things of value go to something called a Limited Company

    I have heard they actually pay you whilst you learn

    they do stuff like make cars, aircraft, build houses, do restaurants and all sorts of digital things like websites


    • 74
      agent orange says:

      errrmm, won’t work

      you have to actaully do some work in a Limited Company and have consequenses for messing up

      the fact that you shit your pant through excesssive drinking to not entitle you an increase in grade becuase of a “tummy upset”


    • 75
      Moley says:

      Because British Companies can employ foreign graduates without having to pay for their education.

      Its called Market Forces and it clearly illustrates the fact that the consequences of the Coalition’s policies have not been fully considered.


      • 78
        chutney says:

        dim twat

        you obviously never collected soccer stars

        our current system is a bit like swapping David Beckham for someoen from the Tunisian second division


      • 83
        Unsworth says:

        You’re suggesting that British Companies somehow don’t pay taxes? Really? And surely it matters little to any company – British or not – where these graduates come from?

        Maybe British companies are dissatisfied with or unable to recruit suitable British graduates. Maybe they feel that candidates from elsewhere are better and more appropriately qualified, more able and possibly cheaper than their British equivalents. Where are all the scientists and engineers, for example? Is there a real demand for masses of media studies or golf-course management graduates?

        And what incentive is there for any organisation whose primary function is to make profits to suddenly start acting like some sort of charity?

        Not to put too fine a point on it, this is fuck-all to do with Coalition policies, it’s the result of many years pratting around with ‘ejucation’. Those who were of school age when Blair first came to power are now of Graduate and post-Graduate age. How useful are they to society? Blair and his colleagues have destroyed the prospects of a whole generation – and possibly more.


        • 89
          Anonymous says:

          The sky is dark with the wings of chickens coming home to roost.


        • 89
          engineer 2 says:

          the main problem with British Graduates is that they are up their own fucking arses

          I have had to endure a lecture from a 22 year Salford University “six sigma blackbelt” telling me that my factory cannot meet manufactuing tolerances without modification to our “processes” even though we have been doing it for 30 years +

          he was so stupid he did not even realise what he was saying

          he could not get past his “qualifications” were better than mine


          • Unsworth says:

            So was he looking for a job as a ‘consultant’? I hear that they, too, are of a similar nature. The only consultant I might have any faith in is a very senior and experienced doctor – and even then I’d be looking for second opinion.

            This unwarranted brash confidence is being inculcated largely by academics who have almost no experience of real life. I cannot think of any who have left the Halls of Academe and made successes of themselves in commerce or industry. By contrast I can think of several in these latter fields who have become successful and effective dons.


          • Dack Blog says:

            My nephew got offers from good unis (Imperial, Loughborough and UCL) to do engineering. He decided to get a job and work his way up from the bottom to avoid debt. After a year or so his company agreed to fund his degree which he did part-time when working. He’s now high up in the (same) company, loves his job, earns twice what I’m on, owns two properties and has zero debt. He’s not quite 30.

            My family have a working class background and I think what’s being ignored is the ‘psychological deterrent’ that debt has for some.

            His company saw his potential/loyalty etc and figured it was worth investing in him. Maybe this could be encouraged more widely for worthy potential employees who lack the financial means to pay up front and feel uncomfortable about debt.


          • South of the M4 says:

            Pah! 6 Sigma ‘ black belts ‘. For 97% of them what they say will differ by only 3 standard deviations. Brainwashed the lot of them!


          • Unsworth says:

            @ Dack Blog

            A classic argument (and example of the crying need) for the return of the typical industry sandwich course. ICI used to be quite generous in its approach to those who wished to better themselves – with resultant major benefits to the company.


          • Pressa says:

            Who mentioned sandwiches


        • 223
          PD77 says:

          Well how many Media Studies and other worthless subject graduates can companies employ?

          The saying “Too many Chiefs and not enough Indians!” comes to mind.


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      The Court of Public Opinion says:

      Good idea – that’s why I have a couple. Sadly, not worth as much as angry young Gilmour with his £73m protesting about his £9k fees, but its a start.


  23. 77
    Unsworth says:

    For those who do not care about or even understand football what is Johnson actually saying?


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      g1lgam3sh says:


    • 86
      Tachybaptus says:

      M’Lud, I understand that the Champions’ League occupies a more senior position in the hierarchy of the, ah, ‘game’, than does the Premier League. Therefore this, ah, ‘gentleman’ is inferring that he is more inconsistent than his opponents. This is in the nature of a self-deprecating joke, intended to make the speaker look both modest (mirabile dictu, what?) and, ah ‘a man of the people’.

      Lord Justice Unsworth: Be quiet, you snivelling oik, I make the jokes here.


    • 98
      South of the M4 says:

      He is saying that you may view him as incompetent, but that he believes he is not as incompetent as Cameron and Osbourne. But, because he is incompetent, he got the analogy wrong and actually implied that he was more incompetent. Get it?


  24. 80
    GORDON tiggywinkle McPOTTY says:

    In the world rankings of useless c*nts
    he is indeed number one !


  25. 82
    Rock Star says:

    Why is he wearing Latex gloves?

    And with a Rich Daddy why was he looting from top shop?

    And why hasn’t he been arrested?


    • 96
      Eeu to me says:

      He went out wearing his Latex gloves so he wouldn’t get his hands dirty or leave nasty greasy fingerprints on public or other peoples property,how nice of him to think of other people,shame he didn’t think about the Cenotaph,time for him to have a very serious chat with plod and time for his history tutors in Cambridge to review what history they are teaching this MAN?.


    • 108
      Jail this filth says:

      This scum should be rotting behind bars by now.


    • 109
      A moment's madness: a lifetimes regret ? says:

      A lot of circumstancial evidence and of course young Mr Gilmour may just be guilty of nothing more than a moment of extreme shameful madness and exuberance but it’s certainly starting to paint a picture suggesting that he still has rather a lot to explain for his actions on that day both in Whitehall and it appears from the Mail’s report also Regent Street and Oxford Street…”


      • 249
        Anonymous says:

        Apparently Mr Gilmour writes for the Guardian & Independent.

        I am not sure why at 20 he should be chosen to represent the Off Shore Guardian and the Russian Independent. Perhaps his mother had some influence. She is well regarded in Virago publishers.

        Here is a picture of David getting his award in 2003. Notice which ones are NOT wearing poppies.


    • 181
      Anonymous says:

      Charlie may not know what the Cenotaph is but he knows what Buckingham Palace is –


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    Paddy on the money says:


  27. 87
    Labour are mongtastic! says:

    Priceless. He’s just handed Cameron prime ammunition for PMQs on Wednesday. Well done, postie! You’re almost as thick as Ed!


  28. 91
    Mary says:

    The twat got his one-liner wrong – he meant Championship but said Champions League. It doesn’t make sense otherwise since Champ League is bigger than Prem League


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    Labour are mongtastic! says:

    I know most here think the BBC are heavily biased, and true they often are, but listen to Friday’s More or Less on Radio 4 on iplayer and their report on the tuition fees changes said it’s MORE progressive than the current one Labour introduced.


    • 103
      Phil says:

      “More or Less” 30 minute broadcast at 1.30 on a Friday and repeated 8.00 p.m. Sunday night.What kind of a mass audience is listening to the radio at either of these times?
      Why not broadcast on the today programme when everyone is listening in a traffic queue trying to get to work? or is the programme a sop as proof that the BBC is unbiast whilst at the same time unleashing unadulterated attacks on the government from 6.00p.m. to 9.00p.m.daily.I would not mind if the propaganda was not so blatantly OTT but Naughtie and Humphries always relish bollocking every tory they speak to and treat the shower of shxx that left us in this mess with kid gloves.


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        Dead Ed says:

        You obviously didn’t hear Humphry’s interview with Ed on Today on Nov 26 in which he tore apart Ed’s inconsistency and mocked him.


        • 268
          c.eng says:

          He didn’t tear into him, Ed demonstrated what a complete and utter dud he is with virtually no help from Humphries.


    • 115
      Anonymous says:

      Tell cameron, he loves pleasuring the BBC.


    • 200
      Rat's arse says:

      To 88 : One swallow doesn’t make a summer. It’s just a BBC slip up. They’ll be back to their old biased ways any minute. They really do need closing/burning down.


    • 215
      AC1 says:

      That WAS a sign of Marxist bias. “progressive” isn’t good.


  30. 102
    MAD FRANKIE HADDOCK son of COD says:

    Recession What Fucking recession ?
    Theres no recession in the Bercow household !


    • 205
      Rat's arse says:

      Mad Frankie – pleeeeeeeeeeese don’t get me started on Bercow and his atrocious wife Sally fish bucket!


  31. 104
    Wet Wet Wet says:

    Some of today’s papers are belatedly waking up to the fact that the dripping wet liberal Ken Clarke’s policies will be yet another disaster…Peter Hitchens gives him a pasting, as well as an article in the MOS which reveals the pompous leftie windbag said of his policy to send less criminal scum to jail:

    “The first time someone bumps someone off the fortnight after they are let out, there will be absolute outrage.
    ‘But you have to explain to the sensible public that you can’t give an absolute guarantee.”

    Of course he has no fear of being bumped off….with a permenent armed security guard wherever he goes…for him, violent crime is a but figment of our imagination. The poor – who suffer most crime – can go to hell.

    One old gag about the hushpuppy wearing buffoon doing the rounds again “what’s the worst job in government?” “taking over a department just vacated by Ken Clarke”

    Grow some balls Cameron….this idiot is dangrerously left wing..even by the standards of the new coalition liberal love-in. His policies will come back to haunt you with every murder and violent robbery being scutinised by the media to see if it was committed by a scumbag who should have been in jail but instead was given “community service”.

    Clarke is so wet you could shoot snipe off his back. Put him in charge of paperclips instead.


  32. 106
    Mabelode says:

    After years of living off debt and cheap goods from china this country has to learn to earn its way in the world again.

    The real world does not need 40-50% of the workforce to be graduates. Yes higher education is about earning a living not about self improvement. If you want self improvement go read a book instead of twittering!


    • 113
      That's another fine mess you got us into says:

      NuLabour only created more university places to try to make it look like we were a better educated country. Now, of course, this lie has been revealed….we have slipped way down the league tables to be behind estonia in educational rankings. As with so much of labour’s triumphalism, it all turns out to have been smoke and mirrors. We have produced a generation of thickies..yet more of them are getting into university…some mistake, surely?


      • 118
        Anonymous says:

        What you’ve got to remember is that socialists are really fucking dumb, and then you can’t go far wrong.


      • 139
        Cynical_old_Bag says:

        By creating more university places, this might reduce the unemployment statistics, and boost the statistics of the education programme as Nu Leibor saw fit.

        But that’s just me being cynical.


        • 152
          LibLabCon = enemies of Britain says:

          Yes a scam that the Tories were only too willing to start when they turned all the polys and HE colleges into universities in the early 1990s.


          • Cynical_old_Bag says:

            Nothing to do with Labour’s “flagship” Academies, then?


          • LibLabCon = enemies of Britain says:

            The massive expansion of higher education happened under the Tories in the 1990s. That Labour jumped onto the bandwagon when they got into power is hardly surprising.

            It suits both parties to have a sizable portion of the workforce off the unemployment books for three years.

            Post-industrial states do not need vast armies of workers, and that’s something Labour and Tories have yet to comprehend.


          • You make think that but I couldn't possibly comment says:

            It was as you say John Major that enabled polytechnics to become universities and start to offer non -vocational courses which very naturally they did following the old dictum “Bums on seats” to generate income.Some “new “universities achieved good reports for certain courses/specialities and specialties but a lot were and are remain mediocre. In the 1990’s when my two kids were taking A levels everyone at their college/school was expected and indeed encouraged to apply for university…. any university….. whether or not they were academically suited and were discouraged from pursuing vocational courses/apprenticeships(which there were at the time available but were poo’d poo’d as a waste of potential ?).Now the cynic in me would say that perhaps the school/college was mindful that when they published their prospectus for new parents of Year 7pupils that as well as the figures for students achieving 5 GCSE’s or more at A-C , the majority taking A Levels and going on to university was a good selling point rather than stating that a significant proportion didn’t go to university?


          • Old dog no tricks says:

            They did not change them – they gave them the opportunity to become Uni’s – they did not forsee all of the Useless Crap courses ‘nail trimming for Homosexual cows’ and the like becoming degree courses ! They expected them to up their game and offer more opportunities to take HARD courses because the state needed more engineers etc.

            Unfortunately the dumbed down Polly’s thought that they should offer the same useless training courses and call them degrees instead. thus we are where we are !

            The law of unintended consequences I’m afraid !


      • 263
        Mike Hunt says:

        And to defer leaving education for 3 years so they could crow about how their wonderful policies have reduced unemployment.


      • 273
        c.eng says:

        ‘We don’t need no education’ ; except the proles must pay for us to go to Uni.


    • 216
      AC1 says:

      > The real world does not need 40-50% of the workforce to be graduates.

      Probably not! So make people who want to be graduates sort it out amongst themselves by not subsidising Degree courses.

      Markets Work, Subsidy and Extortion create unemployment.


      • 218
        you idiot says:

        The financial markets work really well don’t they?


        • 227
          Bled dry worker says:

          When you don’t have a one eyed mong throwing a spanner in the works.


          • Old dog no tricks says:

            Look – until you spot that the much vaunted ‘globalisation’ is not good for ordinary folk – and gets shafted big time by a realistic and sensible government, no party is going to be able to rebuild the UK !

            They are so in thrall to big business and the multi nationals – the tax and the potential future high paying jobs – that they cannot be trusted to do what is good for the country.

            Until we have a small nation state – governed for the good of the people we can never make this country what it should be.

            Globalisation, Federalisation and free trade are the enemies of ordinary working people – yet supported by the left ! the only benefits go to large corporations, banking and otherwise. To rebuild industry we need to become a protected economy and what we cannot purchase – we produce – efficiently and cheaply !


    • 234
      Moley says:

      So what actually needed changing was the number of graduates, not the way they are funded.

      The problem remains and has been compounded; that is an achievement of coalition, a “Solution” has been achieved which solves nothing and which was arrived at, not because of its merits, but simply because it was equally odious to all the political parties and politicians responsible.

      Clegg and Cameron will both have to go before the next election.

      We need honest speeches, promises kept, and manifesto pledges honoured; and we clearly cannot expect that from either of the coalition leaders.

      The way we are going the next election will be a complete farce with the parties trying to outdo each other in promises and pledges which they have absolutely no intention of keeping.

      As Brown said of Blair; “It is no longer possible to believe anything you say”.


  33. 112
  34. 114
    visiting professor says:

    Is there a rational expalantion for The X Factor, Gok Wan and Chocolate Weetabix? I fucking hope not.


  35. 120
    Ugandan muslim benefits claimant says:

    I would likes to thankings Mr Harman for sayings it is okays to get the benny fits and then sending homes. I have now tolds my 4673 relative to comings to London. I said “Comes! They gives free money and you not have to works! And if you say you want beheads them, they not do anything! Allahu shatbar!”


    • 126
      Hairy Harriet says:

      Dahling you’re a hero! You’re quite entitled to claim benefits and send them home, after all it is marxist policy to re-distribute wealth. What? you want some of my family money? Er…well..I have to put on my stab vest now and go shopping! Bye!


      • 182

        I really hope that when she is out in her stab vest
        some fucker shoots her in the face
        ha ha ha ha


    • 127
      cynical_old_bag says:

      Sorry old chap – you forgot to tell all your relatives to vote Nu-Labour. That is part of the deal, you know.


  36. 122
    Gordon Brown says:

    Today I will be an MP.

    Just kidding. Today I will be a high speed blender.


  37. 138
    Ratsniffer says:

    Pickles on the politics show…..he’s going to be talking about travellers illegally occupying sites….will he actually do something about it..or will it be another tory cave-in?


    • 144
      Lil Olmey says:

      Is that the same as immigrants coming over here and living on benefits ?


    • 146
      Westminster Crime Syndicate says:

      Let them squat on land next to MPs’ homes.


      • 151
        T.B£iar - the People's Messiah says:

        Fuck off !!


        • 163
          New Labour fucked up thinking. says:

          Pikeys everywhere! Come over here, build on our land without planning permission, and as a reward we will pay all your living expenses and your kids will get free education if they bother to turn up at the local school. The British people will pay for everything, even though they’re fucking skint. BTW, loving the cultural diversity that you bring to our septic isle, ie really ingenious and novel ways ways of thieving & scamming. Tell all your friends too!


      • 160
        Cynical_old_Bag says:

        Better still, let some of the more affluent MP’s give over some of their land. Perhaps Michael Heseltine, and several other well-heeled individuals in both Houses would gladly help out.


    • 179

      NO !he did only said he was going to talk about it !


  38. 141
    50 Calibre says:

    OK, so I can’t spell armagedden. It’s not the end of the world is it?


  39. 147
    Gordon Brown says:

    I’d like to wish everyone a merry christmas and a happy new year. I look forward to serving as your prime minister in 2011.


    • 154
      streamfisher says:

      It all started in Jerusalem.


    • 156
      Liar Byrne, aka Baldemort says:

      Gordon, there’s no money left for you to ‘invest’. No-one will lend us any money if Liebour ever get into Downing Street again.

      It’s up to the BBC and the Marxist media to try and dislodge the Coalition.
      Remember with Red Ed and his blank sheet of paper and Postman Prat as shadow Chancellor, still reading his economics primer, we look a tad dysfunctional.
      It doesn’t help much with Harridan Harmanhater on justgiving trying to buy thousands of ‘offshore’ voters either. We are a total joke.


    • 168
      Beyond The Joke says:

      I hope you suffer the most agonizing death possible.


  40. 149
    RED ED - SON OF BROWN says:

    At least Liebour are consistent in one thing. Every time we ‘govern’ the Country, we always leave it on the verge of bankruptcy with enormous debts for the Conservatives to sort out.


  41. 169

    Daves latest great idea !
    Sell off the Air sea rescue service !
    Fuckin unforgivable

    He needs to go the clueless cu*t


  42. 171
    Gordon Brown says:

    There’s nothing better I like in the morning than getting up to an Artic Roll


  43. 173

    Today Peter Mandelson is comming round
    To show me how to become a Gayer !

    Staying in touch with his people


  44. 175
    Johnny says:



  45. 177
    Trumpers says:

    Gillmour is the pure distilate of what is wrong with this country

    If he was an aftershave it would just be known as



  46. 183
    • 189
      annnnonyperson says:

      Police Concern for innocent Christmas shoppers

      Perhaps the Mayor, the Regents Street, Oxford Street Associations should get together and sue the NUJ’s and Aaron Porter’s arses off?


    • 219
      AC1 says:

      OH for fucks sake NO THEY ARE NOT THE SAME.

      They are totally different.
      A graduate tax Is a punishment for learning.
      A Tuition fee is paying the cost for the learning.

      You pay off the debt, the tax hangs around for life.

      A request. Please stop writing utter shit.


      • 247
        Ad Lib says:

        You miss the devil, which is in the detail. The 30 year write-off period makes it a graduate tax.

        They are tuition fees in name only. It is more accurate to describe this new system as a graduate tax with a maximum contribution limit that rises in-line with interest rates.


        • 252
          Ad Lib says:

          Question: Who still faces the front-loaded costs of tertiary education?
          Answer: The Government, hence the taxpayer.

          Question: Who contributes on top of other taxes to the separate cost of tertiary education?
          Answer: The Graduates

          Question: Given the Government wipes the slate clean after 30 years irrespective of how much you’ve paid off, does the amount that the student pays relate more closely to the size of the tuition fee or the amount they earn?
          Answer: The amount they earn

          The reality is that the new tuition fees system, for all but the richest (who pay off the cost of their education earlier), leads to exactly the same liability for students as if there were a graduate tax of about 9% on earnings over £21k for 30 years after graduation.

          It essentially turns income tax rates for graduates into a more complicated set of income tax bands of 20%, 29%, 49% and 59%, reverting to 20%, 40%, 50% when one of the cut-offs is reached.


  47. 188
    the old Dufflebag says:

    heave-ho Hughes and his wet mealey mouthed sycophants into the dustbin of time and roll on with the core coalition.


    • 210
      annnnonyperson says:

      Strange how Hughes went from anti-gay to out, isn’t it? That wasn’t very Liberal of him, was it?


  48. 190
    Quote of the day says:

    Man with penis in peanut butter jar is fucking nuts.


  49. 192
    EdMiliband says:

    When I don’t know what to do, I ask myself ‘What would Gordon do?’


  50. 195
    Elvis, Uranus says:

    Remember me Gordon? I helped in your last, very last campaign.


  51. 196
    A breast man says:

    That is a delightfully tight top the BBC News presenter is wearing. Worth the licence fee alone.


  52. 206
    Gordon Brown says:

    Tonight, my vote will go to Darius


  53. 221
    I punched a skinny student in the face says:

    Fuck Liebour


    • 224
      Bled dry worker says:

      If only all the millions of other people that are perfectly happy with the new fees did the same.


      • 279
        Beowulff says:

        You must be squeezed dry, so I can go to Uni for nuffing and get bladdered and piss on fings what I don’t know what they are.


  54. 236
    Dead Ed says:

    Tonight I will be watching the results of The X Factor. I’m voting for Matt.


  55. 240
    itsmenoitisn't says:

    What hypocrisy from labour. The nodding Harman is probably the worst.


  56. 241
    It was always going to end in tears says:

    O/T As expected after the Sunday’s got their teeth into Mr Gilmour Junior he has been arrested


  57. 243
    Moley says:

    I know how to solve the country’s finances.

    Hold a public poll to nominate 100 politicians to send into permanent exile, and once the hundred have been chosen, allow the public to pledge money towards the exile of a nominated politician.

    Then we can start again.

    My money is on Ken Clarke and Cameron who are both leftie cuckoos who have crawled into the Conservative nest and need booting out; Ed Balls and hypocrite Harriet (All female shortlist) Harman win my Labour nominations.


  58. 245
    Anonymous says:

    So they’ve arrested Charlie Gilmour then. I suppose it was just a matter of time as to when they arrested him for criminal damage. After all, he will be a shining example to us all and show us what the police will do to anyone caught vandalising or causing criminal damage to property belonging to government, the banks or the royal family…but not ours! I bet the police feel pleased with themselves and extremely smug! However I can name some much worse vandals than these kids, they turn up at the cenotaph every year on Remembrance Sunday and vandalise it just by purely being there and laying wreaths. They take the p**s out of us everyday and night of the year and vandalise this country with there disgraceful and corrupt behaviour. And if you don’t know who I’m talking about, you don’t need to look very far.

    Also I bet this will provide a path to arresting Roger Waters for his film, The Wall. They have been after him for a while so it really wouldn’t surprise me if he’s next.


    • 248
      He's not a revolutionary;he's a very naughty boy !!! says:

      The Cenotaph is owned by the nation not the government of the day. You should also realise that the people it commemorates actually died so you could make such comments on here


      • 253
        Eeu to me says:

        Mr anonymous care to check out how many names in your family the Cenotaph represents.


        • 255
          Anonymous says:

          Perhaps read the rest of my post before submitting comments that are obviously picking up on the cenotaph bit as you obviously didn’t and don’t get it. The cenotaph should not be visited every year by a criminal organisation and vandalised. The cenotaph should only be visited by those who served, fought, are serving and the families. It should not be visited by an organisation that sends young lads out to war and to be shot at and possibly killed.


      • 254
        Anonymous says:

        Exactly! It commemorates the people who died for our country that were employed to be killed by our government who take the p**s by turning up with their army of p**s takers every year and vandalise it. They don’t care two sh*ts about those who died for the country. When they show up they simply vandalise the cenotaph and it is more of a PR stunt than a way to remember those who served for the country. This government employs young lads to go out and be shot at in strange lands, more than often coming back in a body bag. I feel for the forces families that have to put up with the criminal behaviour that is going on. Then they lay a wreath on the cenotaph as a way to thank the lads for being shot or blown apart. They should not even be allowed anywhere near the cenotaph on remembrance sunday. The only people that should be allowed anywhere near are those who served or are serving.


        • 256
          Eeu to me says:

          I agree with you sentiments, they are a load of slimy corrupt shites who shouldn’t be let anywhere near the controls of power and do use the 11-11 as showboating to show how sad they can be when they lay a wreath,but they no doubt will also have family the Cenotaph also represents and which ever way you think still have a right to be there.


          • Anonymous says:

            Well on way around that is to put them directly in the crowd of forces families with no protection whatsoever. I think some would have a word or two to say to them.


        • 257
          Chutney Adams says:

          I don’t need to read your shite to know what sort of person you are

          I bet you help old ladies in the hope they leave you something in their will


          • Anonymous says:

            And what sort of person am I then? As a matter of fact I don’t help old ladies in the hope of them leaving me something in their will. In fact quite the opposite! To make such a comment means that its something that you have on your mind and might be guilty of doing.


    • 262
      tolpuddlemartyr says:

      Yes, too true. Almost everyone in England lost family members in the 1st/2nd w wars, and every year hypocritical politicians turn up to commemorate them, then go away and start another war! The war to end all wars – pull the other one!


      • 267
        Anonymous says:

        @ tolpuddlemartyr

        Thanks for your comment. At last someone sees where I’m coming from. Others are reading my post very very wrong and are picking up on the cenotaph bit.

        We are actually a forces family, I have a brother in law who is dying slowly after a tour in iraq – he has a lung condition which was caused when he was serving, a cousin currently serving in afghanistan, another cousin who served and died a few years back after coming back – he hit the bottle, ended up taking hard drugs, and his family split apart all because he couldn’t handle what he’d seen.

        We obviously turn up on remembrance sunday for the remembrance service and have spoken to lots of forces families who have the same thoughts about our government. And like you say they’re hypocrits!

        I am neither sticking up for Charlie Gilmour or The Police. I am making a point, they will be using Charlie Gilmour as an example to us all while saying something like ‘This is what will happen to you if you commit such offences’. If it had been a nobody it would never have reached the media with such a big headline. This is exactly what the police want. The fact of the matter though is that there’s a more sinister reason behind it.


        • 277
          c.eng says:

          We all know nothing will happen to him. Nothing ever does in our Mickey Mouse country.

          Whereas if we were in China we wouldn’t have heard any more about him but his family would have got the bill for the bullet.


        • 304
          RedEd's mother's crusty pissflaps says:

          What is wrong with making an example of this little c u n t dribble – should hang him and that traitor Brown, would make my year!


    • 265

      Mr anony-mouse
      Are you Jack Straws Drug dealing son ?
      Cowardice runs in your family big time
      so i would not look too close at the cenotaph
      for any of your family names


      • 270
        Anonymous says:

        No, I don’t like Jack Straw one bit. Why don’t you go get yourself an education and read my post SLOWLY and PROPERLY and stop being such a scruff. You stink by the way so get a wash.


      • 283
        Cynical_old_bag says:

        Mr Dirty Scruffy Student Bas*ard

        Have you learnt nothing at all along life’s highway? Respect? Politeness?

        Clearly not.


    • 274
      c.eng says:

      He don’t need no education, just a bloody good smacking.


      • 309
        Anonymous says:

        Thank you. I would take pleasure in allowing you to give him a good smacking. I might even string him up and set a load of women on him…believe me, it wouldn’t be pleasurable either! He’s just a bleeter, walking directly into it with no knowledge whatsoever of what he’s talking about. I realised after I said, ‘get an education’ that it would cost him. Well in all honesty when people like that come along and don’t know their arse from their elbow I sway towards making them pay. If he’d been polite I would have given it to him free, but because he’s been impolite it doesn’t come free. And not the education by the way! Thats the kind of person I am.


  59. 264

    what a bell end…. enough said…


  60. 271
    • 276
      Is the Pope a Catholic ? says:



    • 288
      Dave says no says:

      Mr Cameron stressed that he supported the BBC

      He said: “The BBC is an important national institution. I want to see it prosper and succeed and be a fantastic cultural asset.”

      He added that he was a “supporter of the licence fee”

      “I’m probably the most pro-BBC Conservative leader there’s ever been!”

      “I would never do anything to put the BBC at risk”.


  61. 281
    Bird with small brain says:

    Let me see if I understand the situation: Mr Gilmour (Cambridge undergrad, privately educated, £2000 suits) is dangling off the Cenataph in protest because he thinks I (annual income £9000) should pay his tuition fees. Um. I’ll have to think about that.


    • 282
      Cynical_old_bag says:

      He should be slung out of Cambridge for that. Others have been expelled from Uni for a lot less!


  62. 286
    World Cup inconsistency says:


  63. 287
    Son of a Popstar says:

    A Graduate Tax? Bloody good idea.
    A Bankster Tax? Bloody brilliant idea.
    Jail Terms for off-shore tax dodging scum? The bloody best!

    As Ayn Rand said on her death bed, ” My readers are stupid people, the richer the rich are allowed to become, the more stupid the people must be, yes?”


  64. 292
  65. 294
    Well BBC - is this man a Paedo? Oh no he is a muslim and so it's OK!!??? says:


  66. 307
    nell says:

    Sorry have to laugh!!

    charliegilmour, son of multimillionaire pink floyd person, went on the rampage at the last nus riot. He is apparently a history student at cambridge university.

    Then he defaced the war memorial in london saying he had no idea what it was!!!

    How very labour!!, and how very typical of the nus and the students riots charliegilmour is!!

    Bored/spoiled uppermiddle class twits!!

    There is not one iota of evidence that there is a single working class student that has engaged themselves in these london, bored, middle class ‘student’ riots!!

    Indeed some questions need to be asked about how representative the nus is of uni students.

    Apparently the nus / aaron porter were elected to their ‘offices’ with less than a 10% vote from the majority of students.

    That means 90% of students are indifferent to people like aaron porter and those idiots demonstrating in london this week!!!!


  67. 310
    Ron likes badgers and the marmite motorway. says:

    Just thought it was about time this was put on here again


  68. 311
    Old Empire says:

    It is unfortunate that most of the people of this country do not see what is happening. The people cannot be blamed for not seeing beyond a fog which is so thick it is forcing the people to walk directly into something the people really would not like to be a part of. However the people are asleep, and this is what is relied upon.

    The only thing I can say about what is really happening, AND WE REALLY KNOW!! Let THEM (and you know who you are) have everything THEY want, THEY will destroy themselves before the people and if THEY have everything, then THEY cannot trade. Everything THEY have retrieved from the poor penniless people, then becomes worthless and people start to get things back in some sort of order. So let ‘THEM, not the people’ have everything THEY want. THEY will regret it as when THEY have it THEY won’t have anything and THEY will be poor and the people will have the last word.


  69. 314
    Old Empire says:

    Detective Chief Superintendent Matthew Horne, leading the investigation, said police want the public to help them track down the culprits.

    “We want the public to help us identify these people who may have been involved in violent disorder, attacking police officers and smashing buildings, shops and windows,” he said.
    “The vast majority of the people we are seeking are suspected of committing serious offences of violent disorder and criminal damage.

    “The rights of protest and expression are important to us all. However, people breaking the law, endangering those protesting peacefully and committing offences such as this are criminals,” he said.

    Right, lets get one thing straight – I don’t take sides.

    Lets get another thing straight, the people committing offence’s were not only students. There were some stocky built guys in black uniforms wearing flourescent jackets and a chessboard patterned cap, hat and in some cases a blue motorcycle style helmet with these things that are highly polished black pieces of wood to injure people with. May I remind people that one guy ended up with a bleed on the brain as result and this could have led to brain damage as a result of the use of these pieces of wood. He was also not admitted to hospital straight away. The police came first with their cuts and bruises.

    And another thing that needs to be put straight – the police are not immune to their own laws!


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