Manifesto Called for Housing Benefit Reform
CCHQ’s opposition research operation really should have spotted this and used it to rebut Labour’s demented attack on the Housing Benefit “final solution” (© Polly). LibDem blogger Peter Black highlights this manifesto commitment
‘Housing Benefit will be reformed so we do not subsidise people to live in private sector accommodation on rents working families couldn’t afford’
Eminently reasonable in policy terms, £20,000 a year in rent is of course way beyond what the majority of us can afford. The quote is taken from the Labour Party manifesto, written by one Ed Miliband…
James Purnell when he was at the DWP said he wanted to ensure “people on benefits do not end up getting subsidies for rents that those who work could never afford”. Last week Ed piously called on LibDems to block the implementation of a policy he advocated in the Labour Party manifesto, claiming, “That is not what they came into politics for. I hope they will vote with their consciences.”
The barefaced hypocrisy is breathtaking.
UPDATE : Tim Montgomerie scolds Guido for missing that the Tory Press Office tweeted the Miliband quote on Friday and Sayeeda used it later on Any Questions. Nevertheless Guido contends that if CCHQ had been on the ball it would have been deployed at PMQs which is where it was really needed.
Ooopsth.
Labour hypocrisy, who’d a thought it.
It’sth all the fault of the finanthial thervitheth thector.
The evil Toriesth.
It sthtarted in America.
Oh, sthit. I wisth my brother had won.
Dirst class deturn do dottingham
I thucked thuneth but they didn’t work.
Sorry Mr Miliband, second class only, you self important marxist git
It’s a decond class ticket…..
You can tell it’s the 80s, because there isn’t a “Position Closed” sign in the ticket office and a large queue at the one ticket machine that’s not out of order.
Why do you indulge twats who twitter?
You fucking idiot.
He did… but your union buddies fiddled the result by declaring a few thousand “spoiled” voting slips which were mainly for your bro. I doubt if you can ask for a recount because those particularly inconsequential, unimportant pieces of paper have probably been shredded by now… but fret not, you will be replaced within 18 months.
I thirtainly hope stho.
I have thutch trouble thinking, thith leaderthip lark ith making my brainth hurt.
AND WHY ARE WORKING FAMILIES CLAIMING HOUSING CREDIT GUIDO?
THAT’S RIGHT YOU DUMB MOTHERFUCKER -
BECAUSE THE GODAMN RENT’S TOO HIGH!
LANDLORDS OH SO RICH ON THE CASH TAXPAYERS SUPPLY
HIGH UP ON THE HOG COZ THEY SET THEIR RENT’S TOO HIGH
GUIDO’S GETTING CONNED BY THE TORY PARTY LIE
AND TAXPAYERS GET FUCKED COZ THE RENT’S ARE TOO GODAMN HIGH
SUITS FROM THE US WON’T RENT SHOPS DO YOU KNOW WHY?
THAT’S RIGHT MOTHERFUCKERS -
THEY WON’T RENT SHOPS IN THE UK COZ THE RENTS ARE TOO DAMN HIGH!
Fuck off and do one Boris.
How can anyone, even those who lean to the left, take these people seriously?
What I really want to know is why aren’t I in any way surprised?
“What I really want to know is why aren’t I in any way surprised?”
What part do you mean Ampers this bit?
“CCHQ’s opposition research operation really should have spotted this and used it to rebut Labour’s demented attack on the Housing Benefit “final solution”
Fucking dumb Tories.
I love missing open goals.
We know Dave, seventeen points in the lead, cast iron promise under your belt, dimwit Brown and his cabal of useless, thieving perverts, offering up gift after gift and what did we get?
Week after week of Doh! as the ball sailed effortlessly into the stands.
It would be rather foolish to expect any impovement whilst in office after that.
Even with retardEd Militwit as opposition, you can barely hit the net from two yards out.
If you’re sat in row Z, ain the ball ‘its yer ‘ed, its Camo..ro….n!
LABOUR AND THE TORIES ARE BOTH SHIT DO YOU KNOW WHY?
COZ NEITHER OF THE DUMBFUCKS SAY THE RENT’S TOO GODAMN HIGH!
THE REASON THAT THE HB BILL IS REACHING FOR THE SKY
IS COZ GREEDY MOTHERFUCKING LANDLORDS SET THEIR RENTS TOO GODAMN HIGH!
RENT CONTROL IS AN IDEA WHOSE TIME HAS COME IN THE UNITED KINGDOM
YOU DIG MOTHERFUCKERS?
I think you will find rent control was tried in the 70s. Landlords simply took their property off the market. You cannot artificially control markets – it failed then and would fail again. Rents are high because the government is(was) prepared to pay them. It’s really that simple.
I’m really surprised this point isn’t made more often.
I have a sneaky suspicion that Mr and Mrs Benefit’s £800 p/w rent is going to drop to £400 p/w once the new rules come in.
Rick, if landlords take their properties off the market then they will make no income on those properties. As many landlords borrowed money from the banks to buy to let they will then be forced to sell those properties, which would be a good think for the housing market for, as the Conservative Housing Minister said, people should start regarding their properties as homes rather than investments.
So your argument is in fact an argument in favour of rent control as it would release more properties onto the market which means less people would have to rent and therefore the housing benefit bill would be reduced.
Shades of Hatterschley
A Conservative made this very point to Jack Harman-Dromey on yesterday’s Any Questions.
Unbelievable that the Tories failed to spot that.
But immensely amusing that Wed Ed has made such a complete arse of himself. The Liebour party, up, piss, couldn’t, brewery, a, in, organise – rearrange into a well known phrase or saying!
missing the second ‘a’
Alas they did spot it you common oik, and will play the longer game with it. We of the left are in a muddle.
Up the workers! Open the Bolly!
It was Baroness Warsi. She packs quite a good punch. And wasn’t it Ed Milliband who wrote Gordon’s manifesto for him?
Warsi is only there for one reason and it.s not because she is terribly bright.
All she has to do is read the script to be honest. About 34 mins in.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00vhf4g/Any_Questions_29_10_2010/
Warsi completely owned Mrs Dromey in that programme. Peter Hitchens made the most sense on that show though.
Hitchens was the only honest person on the panel. All the rest were playing to their tribalist followers.
It’s what ZaNuLie Bore do second best, after screwing up the economy.
The smoking gun
You gotta be wondering what quality of staff CCHQ employs though. I had a few dealings with them for about a year before the last election and they were fucking useless then, too. Nowt changes. Give it another year and Tory will merge into Labour – useless and arrogant – winning combination!
There is almost nothing between any of the big three, hot air excluded.
We have a three party, one party system. Hypocrites all, who’s phoney outrage, mock derision and onion sniffing sincerity, is visable for all to see.
They all peddle the same “solutions” for the problems largely created by themselves, for the benefit of themselves and those who they really serve.
Clue: It ‘aint you or me.
Yep, they are all set-up to maximise the rent-seeking opportunities on us.
Red Ed looks like a rabbit caught in the headlights of a very large truck.
That or someone has just found where he was hiding the manifesto on his person.
Oh, I fucking wish (good buddy) !
I wish I was driving, he would be road kill in a heartbeat.
You know as well as I do Guido that the Labour product isn’t aimed at the likes of you, me and your readership: it’s an illogical, envy-built tribal credo that falls apart on the briefest of sensible non-partisan analyses.
The Benn dynasty, including their legal attempts to keep the plebbies from walking on the foreshore of Tony estate, , Harriet’s hubby topping all-women shortlists, Kinnockio’s boy in a dossy gig within the EU, Gordie McSnot and his property empire, and don’t get me started on Cherie “99p” Blair.
Hypocrisy runs through Labour like words through a stick of rock.
Soo true – the poor fuckwits who get their ‘news’ from Toilets Maguire, Pollytwaddle or Al JaBeeBa won’t ever know about this!
The Beeb has a huge responsibility for this; by couching their “debates” programmes to be between a soft socialist and a hard-left loon the impression is given that the norm is New Labour and anything to the “right” of their chosen softie is beyond the pale fascism.
I had dinner the other day with an erudite and intelligent lady who said that the Israelis were pure evil and the Palestinians were poor put-upon underdogs, she told me she knew this was so because she had carefully listened to a wide range of programmes on the subject on the BBC and drawn her own independent conclusion from the data she had taken in from them. I was too bladdered on her rose champagne to protest.
The BBC is a statist news and comment delivery system best avoided.
“I was too bladdered on her rose champagne to protest.”
Either that or you were drunk rom the sight of her cleavage, always an advantage in cross gender political debate.
Yes, yes, but what we want to know is, did Tuscan get his end away?
Wife of a friend and neighbour, so on balance and reflection decided not to, Tessa.
I doubt it if he was bladdered!
@ TT
Yes, good manners preclude fucking one’s hostess across the dinner table – at least until after the Port has been circulated.
@ Unsworth
But what if the Port is part of the foreplay? One can drink from many things, not just lead crystal.
Mmmm! Don’t forget to decant it first.
I’ve had a few sticky women in my time, but I’m none too sure about crusting port though, chaps.
I might want the shots afterwards – precautionary measures, of course.
‘Hypocrisy runs through Labour like words through a stick of rock.’
And both are bad for your teeth.
And the word is skank
somewhat O/T but it seems he´s been into the commons (signed in for expenses?) and then done a runner
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1325243/Welcome-Gordon–took-long-Former-PM-make-Commons-speech-April.html
Big difference between standing up for your constituents and gerrymandering.
The aircraft carrier contracts need to be shoved into his face and an explanation demanded.
lol should be “shoved in his face”
His mouth’s big enough to float them.
I hate the frogs, but people in Browns constituency deserve no jobs for electing the useless piece of shit. Cameron could shift the work to an English yard as a poke in the eye for Brown if the contracts are not already fixed like the carriers.
Unfortunately, only Rosyth in the UK has a drydock big enough to take HMS Unaffordable and HMS Unusable. Perhaps that was why Gordon ageed to order such unnecessarily big ships – 50 years of refit work for scotch voters.
We both agree with Ed Miliband
Hypocrisy – One of the only subjects Labour excels at. Oh yes, troughing, bankrupting the country, and er……..
CCHQ spends too much time spinning instead of sticking it up Labour. How did Cameron’s briefers miss such a Miliband “own goal” at last week’s PMQs?
+1, took the words right from under my fingers. Another reason for Cameron to do fuck all – useless jelly faced twat.
Has anyone noticed that Cameron’s head is getting physically bigger and fatter?
He’s beginning to look like one of Steve Bell’s cartoons.
DC’s team have form on this. They missed more open goals than an England striker during the Brown disaster and totally screwed the GE. The lack of foresight and political nous emanating from Team Cameron has put the Coalition under avoidable pressure. They need less of the white stuff and greater use of the grey stuff if they are to start becoming useful. BTW What’s the Wiggins situation?
Any fule no – study your enemy!
Or perhaps they are not enemies?
Of course they are not enemies, they went to university together, worked in the same PR companies together, went to the Bar together, fought impossible to win seats together before being rewarded with safe seats together. Anyone who bucked the system or the party, weeded out and you are left with identi-clones, completely interchangable.
They have their set piece talking point “disagreements” that are manifestly false, as soon as they assume office, their respective positions change and what they are furious over now, is what was going to happen if they had retained power themselves and vice versa.
It is a massive fraud.
Look here, I am the only bare faced hypocite in Westminster
Tally Ho
Not tho. Thorrry.
Whatever other sins DC may have committed, he does not hunt.
Rod Stewart does, but not foxes
Penny is well foxy, innit.
*Hunting – in the English rather than transatlantic sense – takes serious balls and utter commitment.
That alone explains why Dave doesn’t hunt.
If he did, we might be getting a 25% decrease in our EU contribution this minute, plus some real cuts, not these pallid efforts that allow expenditure to rise, not fall.
(* This is not a pro-hunting rant: I deplore foxhunting’s unsporting loading of odds aganst Reynard by stopping-up his earths the day before the hunt. But I admire the raw courage that followers show. Putting a valuable horse at a six-foot fence on a downslope, with no real idea of what’s on the other side – could be a ditch, could be a parked plough or a fallen branch – risks your and your mount’s life, and followers do it many times in a day. No wonder so many have to get pissed first.)
Scottish Conference 2010, Ed Miliband
“Remember, our government paid down the debt before the crisis hit.”
Well apart from that incy wincy £500bn.
I thought it was £1trn, possibly £4trn.
Dotever, we pay dit down
Thtop taking the pith.
Oh dear… PLEASE learn the difference between paid DOWN and paid OFF.
It was like paying off the mortgage and taking out another for twice the amount. Again, Toilets Maguire, Pollytwaddle or Al JaBeeBa readers will know nothing of this, nor that the deficit, one year’s additional debt, is almost TWICE the TOTAL debt in 2002.
HALF, not twice! Duhhhh!!
Paid up more like – it only went down during the first years of Blair when hr promised to keep to the existing Conservative spending plans. After that….
http://www.spectator.co.uk/article_images/articledir_12854/6427028/1_fullsize.jpg
Ah, so the debt went down until the illegal Iraq war made Labour deeply unpopular, and they had to start buying votes.
p.s. that pic of Ed look’s like it’s been put together by an Indian.
Looks like Chris Bryant is paying him a surprise visit
Nasty little ginger welsh Hunt
Why am I not surprised? Disgusting. The next Prime Minister’s questions should be fun to watch.
NB: memo to Pollytwaddle (Conscience of the Nation)….comments please.
…….and an explanation on how gingerist hate crime is acceptable to the deputy leader of the labour party.
Took the words out of my mouth mugwump
Will he take it like a man or will he hide behind the Harperson?
Even retardEd is not stupid enough to ask questions on Housing Benefit any more – is he?
(Just in case, all Cons / Lib Dems, download a copy of the Liebour manifesto, Post-It at the relevant page (2:3), highlight it, standy by to show retardEd).
I’ve put a posthtit note on my mirror, it thaisth, “don’t mention houthing benefitsth, for Christh thake.”
I jutht hope it doethent fall off.
I take it the BBC are reporting this ?
I wish I could crack jokes like that, especially at this hour on a Sunday morning.
As soon as we can work it into the narrative to Climate Change (must protect our lovely pension pots, invested in cuddly green enterprises which regrettably are not performing quite as expected — or at least, that’s what we’re saying in public — in private we’re trying to run up a pension deficit as fast as possible to make as look complete unattractive for privatization).
There is probably some concensus science that supports the view that cutting housing benefit will lead to a large increase in carbon emmissions, as all the lazy benefits tourists return to where they belong.
Let’s get this straight. I did not say all jocks are ginger vermin. I said that Tory and Lib Dem jocks are vermin. Those ginger vermin who vote Labour will always get my full support.
Does that include Hazel?
The thought of you offering your fully whale-bone strengthened girdle and bra make me feel sorry for all Labour voters.
Nothing would make me feel sorry for Labour voters, and I used to be one. I wouldn’t feel sorry even if their little frightened faces looked pleadingly to me as they’re lead into the ‘chambers’ and the Zyclon-B insecticide is popped down the hatch.
Yup… on second thoughts I must have been feeling out-of-sorts and suffering time-lag what with clocks going forward during the night.
NB: They went back.
Political hatreds are not very healthy Harriet, though in your particular case, I am prepared to make the exception.
What amuses me is the latest tweet from the “victim” – he said something along the lines of: “Vermin are useful, they clean up the mess people leave behind.”
The Labour party is full of privately educated,rich,upper class hypocrites who benefited from going free to Oxbridge mainly on the basis of “family connections”.I have absolutely no time for their hypocritcial politicking and denying that they had anything to do with the present economic catastrophe or the out of control benefits culture after being in government for the past 13 years
Guess their all in it together.
At Oxford they put on the sorting hat and it blurts out their future party.
Many a true word etc..
The mesth wasth nothing to do with my new generathion Labour Party.
Jutht asthk deputy leader, Harriet Harman, or all my thadow cabinet colleagueth, thutch asth Ed Ballth, Yvette Cooper and stho on. All New Generathion. No guilty oneth there, no thireee.
I think you will find that the reason that the political classes are so successful at getting their kids into Oxford and Cambridge is that they spend lots of money on private tuition and coaching. That is why so many of them are educated well beyond their intelligence.
What’s odd is all those BBC reporters and interviewers didn’t lick this up either.
… that’s ‘pick’. Then again…
Apols Billy, while I was mis-typing I missed you ahead of the game.
Worth re-iterating mind.
Maybe… here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/aboutthebbc/2010/10/new-bbc-editorial-guidelines-l.shtml
Under the section ‘Breath-taking Hypocrisy. Or what to omit. And when’
BBC Editorial Guidelines in a Nutshell:
1. Tories = EVIL.
2. Labour = wonderful, glorious, can do no wrong. Magnificent. Praise them at all opportunities. Create more opportunities to praise them.
Don’t forget us too, were doing it just like you orderd.
I can’t stand to watch Chn4 news anymore
I think this has been quoted a few times – someone on AQ included I think, Warsi probably – since PMQs. Maybe Dave was hoping a LibDem would mention it first.
Are Labour the Nasty party ?
They’re the party that sounds very similar.
Here’s a spooky coincidence for Halloween: the NSDAP was in power for 13 years before being obliterated.
It’s just a pity Gordon and Sarah didn’t top themselves when it was all over.
What a beautifully appropriate ending that would have made to the ZaNu social engineering project. Unfortunately, the treacherous pair and their endlessly whining, hectoring, incompetent and grasping movement live on.
I’m doing my betht to dethtroy it.
I’m sure many would have provided a couple of jerrycans of petrol FOC to the garden behind Downing Street…
Oh God, yes. I’d have provided the petrol, the Jerrycans, the matches, the poison, and in lieu of a revolver, razorblades, free of charge.
Looks like they’ve been caught bang to rights on this one. Perhaps the Libs should have gone into coalition with Labour, both parties seem to have the ability to immediately renege on what they said during the election.
David Cameron seems pretty good at that, too.
If anyone other than that communist harpie had uttered ‘that’ insult, they would have been howled to hell. It is the equivalent of Nick Griffin calling Trevor Phillips a bl’ack bastard.
Yeah but Trevor phillips is a Black Barstard
I’m sure someone can find an old clip of harpie twisting the knife in for doing the same as her
I don’t think you should have used the word Black! Bastard is OK though.
Fact , phillips is Black
Fact , phillips is a Barstard
so Black barstard seem fact
He’s not black, he’s brown.
And I’m pink, yet they always call me whitey.
I’m a black lady but I’m pink inside.
Given that, like all politicians, you’re a compulsive liar, Ms Fatbott, would you mind if we verify your statement? A little bit of keyhole surgery with, say, a chainsaw should do the trick.
Sorry dere but him not a bastard.
Him went to him Parents Weddin’
5/66 Aussies look shit
What does the betting syndicate money say?
You see the result of the rugby match today yet?
I see that ubiquitous twerp Stephen Fry has said straight women don’t really like sex. A couple of hours with young Mrs Cato – if he were to be s lucky – would quickly disabuse him of that misapprehension. (Though she might draw the line at him putting his todger where he presumably usually does).
He’s another one who needs the A-rab treatment… cut his dick off, shove it in his mouth and chuck him off a rooftop. If he survives the fall, at least his gob will be quiet whilst he chews over his little problem!
In the old days the natives in Africa would cut off a prisoners cock and balls, put it in his mouth, and sew up his lips so he has to swallow and then chock to death. The final twist is to do it near their enemies, and let him stagger into their camp to watch the poor bugger die so as to demoralise them.
Arabs used to cut out a prisoners tongue and give him to their womenfolk who would feed small stones to him so he had to swallow, until his stomach burst.
There are some very nasty people in this world who could help us with the Labour bastards. (This slur is only aimed at intelligent socialists.)
Your history lessons were obviously a whole lot more interesting than the ones I had.
I knew a policeman – back in the days when they didn’t spend all day on Equality and Diversity courses, or murdering the general population – who attended the scene of a sui*cide.
Some bloke had hung himself from a bridge in London, with barbed wire. Except, it didn’t kill him. From the extensive wounds to his neck, it was clear he’d struggled for hours until, eventually, the tide came in and drowned him.
That should be Gordon Brown’s fate.
Nah, much too easy for the one eyed scotch turd. Parachute him in to a particularly nasty African country with no clothes, no money, nothing except a box of missionary bibles (should be strict moslim country who take exception to christians trying to convert them). I’m sure they would think of a suitable end for the swine.
One bit of the history lessons inflicted on me that has stuck was about slavery. It all comes back now that the West is expected to beat its collective breast over its guilt as sole perpetrator of this heinous crime.
The Arabs (who organised the collection of slaves for deportation) and the Africans (who captured their neighbours and sold them) seem, Teflon-like, to escape any culpability.
Why are our political masters so stupid as not to point this out?
And still the Grauniad Augean stable spreads the lie about London councils block-booking B&B’s!!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/oct/31/london-housing-crisis-benefit-cuts
Funny that James Purnell said this. Didn’t he claim £2,500 per month on expenses for a Soho apartment:
http://order-order.com/2009/12/10/expensegate-ii-purnells-playboy-lifestyle-at-our-expense/
He would never be able to afford this, despite his cabinet pay. Check this page of his expenses and you will see he is £11k overdrawn:
http://mps-expenses2.guardian.co.uk/page/18904/
Obviously being a member of the Labour Party, he has little grasp of managing his own finances, let alone UK PLC.
First they came for the gingers ………………
Then they came for the mingers….
Then they came for the extreme left-wingers…
.. and then they came for the X-Factor ‘singers’..
Actually Hitler quite liked the bolsheviks, his hatred was not for their movements original ideals, rather what he believed they had been corrupted into by the J**s, who he pathologically hated. Typical self loathing socialist, he hated what he himself was ( partially ).
Remember what Hitler’s party was called (as translated): The National SOCIALIST Party: NAZI party was a phrase coined by Churchill to avoid offending Labour members of the wartime coalition Government and would not have been understood in Germany. Hitler was a Socialist: he merely believed in Socialism in one country (Germany) rather than the international socialism nominally followed by mainstream USSR-inspired socialists.
I’ve come for my boy
I’ve come for Fanny.
Labour are liars and hypocrites. So What? They get away it.
Can someone tell the mongs at labourlist ?
This fact and its actual reference within the Labour manifesto was fully quoted by Sayeeda Warsi on BBC Radio 4 Question Time to that parachuted-in Birmingham Erdington MP idiot Droomey and Dumbleby and received wide applause to Dumbleby’s chagrin. She told Dromey to start reading his own party’s manifesto before engaging mouth (paraphrased by me)
She managed to annihilate the opposition which at times were all 3 panel members, and of course the champagne socialist “Chairman”.
Biggest applause was for Hitchens “Get out the EU” moment.
It was indeed. Though Warsi was a close second for teaching Dromey what policy he stood for election under in the labour party’s manifesto.
As the youth say, Dromey was PWND!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00vhf4g/Any_Questions_29_10_2010/
I would like to apologise to those afflicted with the ginger gene.
Don’t worry, I’m alright you dreary old bat.
http://tinyurl.com/2delm2r
Chris Bryant without the pants?
William Hague’s hotel room, this morning?
That’s OK dear. I still like ginger beer, ginger ale, ginger cake and ginger biscuits {and Ginger Whatsisname , that trumpet player}
Ginger Spice – I’d give her one.
She was rubbish last night, like putting it in a bucket full of custard.
CCHQ may not have ‘known’ about the Lab manifesto quote in advance of PMQs and certainlt should have used, but they have certainly been using it since, and before Guido, peter black or others have noted the Lab commitment. Seen more than one tweet on this in passing days from Tory press office in last few days for example.
A painting entitled “Home For Lunch” was on display in an American art gallery.
It depicted 3 naked, very black men sitting on a park bench.
What was unusual about it was that the men on both ends of the bench had black penises, but the man in the middle had a very pink penis.
Two women were staring at the painting, trying to figure it out. The artist noticed their confusion.
The artist asked, ”Can I help you with this painting?”
One woman repl [...]
Reveal the rest of this joke
A painting entitled “Home For Lunch” was on display in an American art gallery.
It depicted 3 naked, very black men sitting on a park bench.
What was unusual about it was that the men on both ends of the bench had black penises, but the man in the middle had a very pink penis.
Two women were staring at the painting, trying to figure it out. The artist noticed their confusion.
The artist asked, ”Can I help you with this painting?”
One woman replied, ”We were curious about the painting of the black men on the bench. Why does the man in the middle have a pink penis?”
”I’m afraid you’ve misinterpreted the painting,” the artist explained. ”The 3 men are not African-Americans. They are coal miners…. and the fellow in the middle went ‘home for lunch.’ ”
I was walking down the Street minding my own business the other day when someone screamed at me and Shouted “Oi, Ginger Rodent!”
I was so disturbed and hurt, I couldn’t believe someone had called me such a vile and disgusting word!
I’m clearly Strawberry Blonde.
I’m with Harminger on this one, the fucking Harkonnens are taking over.
How many SpAds, policy wonks and other hangers on are currently troughing it at our expense in and around Westminster? Plenty are for working the Tories I’m sure. Even so, you would have thought that coalition politicians and Ministers in their own right would have been up to speed on the basic flaws in their opponents plans and arguments.
As such, it’s simply not good enough for Guido to have had to point this hypocritical, unrebuttable and unfillable hole in Labour’s position on housing benefit.
We are being run by amateurs and incompetents.
Its more a case of none of them have a dog in this fight. They still get their salaries and expenses and subsidised bars (and creches !) and their effects on the real world pass them by.
Its us, the PBI, trying to fill in the forms, fight the red tape and pay our way in the world who take it seriously !
[OT] Just found a video version of the Quran, a kind of more accessible version for those who can’t speak their language. You know, Islam kind of makes more sense now after a little contemplation and thoughtful study of Allahs message in video form: http://tinyurl.com/27xo5oc
Slightly O/T – 5 ‘Unite Against Facism’ (UAF) socialist bullyboys have been arrested at an EDL march in Amsterdam. The BBC just say 5 arrested at EDL rally, implying they were right wing EDL members who were arrested. They truely are deniers of ther truth and should be investigated for these misleading statements.
Both the BBC and Sky lied there collective arses of regarding the EDL at the Leicester rally. EDL have put out a video on youtube which completely contradicts the lying MSM take on the event.
The MSM describe the EDL as “far right”. The correct description of the EDL is “concerned Britons who rightly wish to preserve their culture and way of life.” Any other description is probably erroneous and exemplifies MSM bias.
I agree Tessa. Our national identity has been thrown away to make way for ‘others’. I honestly can’t put into words how much I hate the Lieber Party. How people vote for them is completely beyond me.
One thing this highlights is how close T*ry policy and labour policy is so similar.
Knobsons choice is what we’ve got Billy, get over it.
Hardly new news, Guido. Baroness Warsi used on Friday night’s Any Questions to embarass Jack Dromey-Harperson. It worked.
Two days late, but welcome to the party anyway.
So that makes the Tories only one day late for PMQ’s? Impressive.
I tried my hardest to lose the last election, but failed. But, I promise you, I’ll make damn sure I lose the next one.
Just watching PMQ’s on Parliament tv, £500 mill savings taken from the newborn kids,the one the Liebour goverment setup,now where has that money now gone,oh yes,to the EUSSR to piss up on entertainment,politicians are all lieing sh&tes
Today, I give you a cast-iron guarantee that not one additional penny will be added to the EU budget. Let me make this clear: Britain will not contribute one penny more.
Other than about £450,000,000.
You have my word on that. Although it might creep up to £900,000,000 more. Not another penny. Sort of. If they want to change the rules, I will give you a referendum. Maybe. Probably not.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1325293/Cameron-won-t-make-Minister–I-m-white-married-Home-Counties-Christian-says-Tory-MP.html
It’s a smart move by Cameron. The problem with white married MPs is that they all too often get caught banging someone other than their wife or being outed.
The Cabinet is not always the best person for the job but more often it is the person who is least likely to get caught doing something the media can hang them with.
I walked David Cameron,the deficit deceiver,begging in the street today. He said “any change madam”, i said “nope, you’re still David Cameron,the deficit deceiver”
WTF???
Probably meant “wanked”. Or “watched”.
Labour are hypocrites – Not much of a scoop!
Boris said:
“I’ll emphatically resist any attempt to recreate a London where the rich and poor cannot live together”
Why should london be any different to everywhere else on the planet? You live where you can afford to live.
Where the fuck does this “I’m entitled to the tax payer paying for me to live anywhere I want to live” thing come from?
If you’re employed as a waiter at the Ritz, that doesn’t mean you have to be given enough wages to live in the Ritz.
I just can’t understand how labour and boris think it can be reasonable to expect people to be given tax payers’ money to let them live anywhere they choose to live; it’s completely insane, and goes against every piece of logic that’s used anywhere else in the world.
Americans must be looking at this argument and thinking “eh? are you a communist country now then? £2000/month from the tax payer so you can live wherever you want for free? what did you say? you used to give them £2000/WEEK?! You’re fucking mad; we never would have allowed our government to do that.”
Yeth, itsth inthane, and that’sth why it wath a Labour Party manifethto commitment to bring thith inthane thpending to an end.
Exthept it’th now exthpedient for uth to thay it’th jutht the evil Torieth who would do thith.
Boris knows this and he knows that there will be transitional allowances too. There needs to be people of all incomes living in London. How on earth will the businesses emply cleaners, waiters, dish cleaners, shop staff, etc… of these people are priced out of London and cannot afford to commute in?
What is needed is genuine social housing appropriate to the needs and circumstances of the people in London. (NOT slums, but decent, small and modest properties) People on long-term benefits should NOT EVER be subsidised to live in private housing that the average person could never dream of affording.
If people do not like the benefits cuts, they could always, retrain and get well-paid job!
I quite agree, providing there are well-paid jobs for them to get.
Only recently, Lloyds TSB or RBS (I forget which) announced it was dumping 4,500 British IT workers on the dole and exporting their jobs to India. Given that both banks are owned by the state, the government needs to put a stop to this immediately, or there’ll be no incentive for anyone to re-train.
Or pay them enough to afford to be able to live in London. Of course it might make the Rtiz even more expensive. But who cares.
Londoners already get a very large subsidy from the rest of the country to subsidse their transport system.
CORRECTION
In the interests of greater blogging accuracy, the exact quote from the Labour Manifesto (online version, http://www.labour.org.uk/uploads/TheLabourPartyManifesto-2010.pdf) reads:
“Housing Benefit will be reformed to ensure that we do not subsidise people to live in the private sector on rents that other ordinary working families could not afford.”
Rather than the version quoted in this blog:
“Housing Benefit will be reformed so we do not subsidise people to live in private sector accommodation on rents working families couldn’t afford”
So that’s alright then – they support all the none producers, workers, immigrants to continue living at our expense in Kensington, Chelsea ….on and on….
Just to elucidate I mean the none-workers, immigrants from all over the world etc.
Shouldn’t that be ‘non workers’?
O/T. The King of the ginger rodents is Ed cos he is a Red ‘Ed.
That’th not funny.
In my marxitht thtate, there will be no kingth or queenth.
So that’s Mandy out, then!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/oct/31/david-mitchell-george-osborne-tax
FFS Guido. Get your time corrected.
Anyone else with insomnia watch ceefax on BBC2 around 4:30 GMT this morning? The time was 3 hours slow!
It is tempting to want to believe that our party political class are incompetent, and therefore seriously lacking in the brain department.
IMO this is a BIG mistake.
Selling off council houses was also in the 1979 Labour Party manifesto, however I don’t remember The Conservative Party at the time mentioning the fact. As for The BBC, they never mentioned it at the time, or at any time since.
To do so might start people asking some very serious questions as to why all of our political parties follow almost the exact same agenda’s when actually in office, but of course not when in opposition?
Admit it folks, it is not them that are the stupid ones, it is us that are the real brainless idiots, and especially those mind controlled fanatics that still persist in believing in the illusion of party politics.
I have said this before and it seems I will have to say it again.
The job of the red team is to borrow, spend, divide society, and monopolize or bankrupt as many british manufacturing and service industries as possible. The job of the blue team is to appear to pay back the money with interest, and to unite society, while doing the exact opposite, and then carry on selling off said monopolies to the establishments banksters.
To sum up.
The job of our political party’s as a whole is to perpetuate the illusion of choice. A choice that has NEVER actually existed in any democratic nation since and during classical Greek times.
Nice to see you back, Mr Shrugged.
I am not the brightest candle on the cake. I am really, really beginning to struggle with who said what when. Sorry.
The return of the mental one
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/gordon-brown-set-to-deliver-commons-speech-2121547.html
It started in America and was the right thing to do, and as the person responsible I will sack the person responsible for the mess the Tories have got us into.
BTW, I totally agree with Nick on this.
He should be using his first speech to apologise for the disastrous multi-billion pound defence contract we can’t cut back on and must finish.
Brown’s scam to save jobs or votes in Scotland, with a specially framed contract to keep lawyers afloat.
But Call Me Dave looks as if he is signing up to some very odd defence arrangements with the French, is this something outside NATO like a special EU navy?
It is odd. I appreciate that only the UK and France have dry-docks big enough for the carriers, but we’d better hope the boat’s not being serviced by the French when a war breaks out.
I doubt militant French unions would let it leave.
EUssr defence force been planned for years
Non-workers of the world unite. We have nothing to lose but our benefits.
.. and your taxpayer-funded homes, 48″ plasma TVs, XBox 360s, Dolby Surround-sound home hi-fi systems, iPhone 4s, taxi rides to/from Asda every Wednesday, and all the other ‘essential’ odds and sods the workers of this country have to provide for you.
You poor dears.
Of course they could keep all of those things. All they have to do is get a job!
Arrr yes, always make the carrot slightly bigger and more colourful than the stick.
Someone mention me?
I like carrots but nuts are better like harpie Hardbint
I was going to say the unemployable thick-as-shit parasitic scum in this country could never get a salary that would keep them in the lifestyle to which they’ve become accustomed on benefits, but then I remembered Wayne Rooney’s on £200K a week, so although it’s improbable, it’s not impossible.
Tessa – I like your style!
Not just Asda, the ragged people use a nice taxi to and from Tesco !! Not easy to carry the ‘slabs’ of beer and carton of ‘tabs’ on the bus. other thing I noticed is they do not save the world by using a ‘free’ bag for life !!
Any environmental benefit of their using a bag-for-life is offset when they literally graze the aisles and leave half-eaten food products lying around, or they leave chilled meat to rot in the booze aisle because it’s a choice between (a) ham or (b) another five bottles of White Lightning and the ham lost, again.
You didn’t mention the drugs (someone must keep the dealers in business on those sink estates) nor the bookies (often full of young men during the day midweek – can’t all be shiftworkers).
I heard a great expression the other day about politicians being insulated from the consequences of their own folly.
Nothing exemplifies it more perfectly than the interview that Chris Huhne has just given on the BBC Politics Show.
Rarely have I been as shocked at the absolute stunning vacuousness of a politician…totally beyond belief than this arsehole is Secretary of State for Energy and Climate Change.
Its worth watching. No wonder the UK is fucked up almost beyond repair.
Cant think of a more suitable job for an arsehole
Leader of the labour party ?
Bugger
It IS beyond repair.
Amen to that
He was well and truly skewered by the fragrant LauraK who asked him 4 times what his position on Control Orders was in view of the fact that he had voted against them …..answer got she none(well not any answer that made sense that is)
As for his much vaunted Green Font scheme(that is lag a loft to me and you).As far as we in the Drey can understand what you save on energy bills will repay the loan….He was talking about people doing this when they move house Has nobody told him that the property market is fucked ??
TIME TO FREEZE THE RENTS TO STOP THE WELL FROM RUNNING DRY
TIME TO FREEZE THE RENTS BECAUSE THE RENT’S TOO GODAMN HIGH
Yes, that is probably the only way to reduce the housing benefit bill as the Coalition isn’t building enough houses to match demand and the bankers are refusing to offer mortgages even to professionals.
Rent control is used in most states in America and I suppost the rent freeze would only have to remain in place until the supply of rental housing matches supply.
The level of Housing Benefit is a form of rent control.
It was rent control , and the planning system, and subsidised council housing, that screwed up our housing, and led to the present shortage.
So you agree with rent control in principle, Barry.
Bojo lotdrthp (LD) 2.40
You keep saying that, but in the private sector, landlords can only ask the market going rate, and tenants can officially complain if they think their rent is not fair market value. People on benefits who are having their rent paid for them probably don’t care how much tax-payers are being over-charged, so wouldn’t say anything. Wasn’t their a case or two where councillor’s buddies, or councillors themselves were getting councils to rent out their houses for huge rents?
Most landlords have invested a lot, to make a reasonable return, and to supply homes for people to live.
correct. local gov cooruption has a lot to do with it.
Most landlords have borrowed a lot to become landlords.
There is an old saying, anonymous, if you can’t afford it then you can’t have it.
The landlords aren’t charging rent at market rate, they are charging rent far above the market rate in order to service their debt and to make a profit as well.
Over leveraging by buy to let landlords has caused rents to spike, they are a classic case of sub-prime borrowers who own properties they can’t afford without subsidy from the taxpayer and by introducing rent control the housing bubble they are operating in will be punctured and they will have to get out of the market by selling the properties they cannot really afford to own.
It is called a market correction, Anon. You do believe in the market, don’t you?
When housing benefit claimants fill in the form there is a section saying that they will not receive h benefit if they are related to the landlord. This is widely flouted, especially among our latest British residents. In big cities especially London there is no check whatsoever on the fact that Mr. A is renting to his cousin whilst the cousin (Mr B) is renting from Mr A. Do you wonder they call Britain “The land of free money”.
If only I could perform like Maggie Thatcher in the Commons !!!!
http://bit.ly/a0HsGx
Oh, brilliant stuff. In another league altogether.
Ooh! That did me good! Many thanks.
Why does the fucking pope need security? Surely his God will protect him from evil.
Is popery just a big show for retards who can’t think for themselves?
I have no faith in God, and judging by the Popemobile’s bullet-proof windows, the Pope has no faith in Him, either.
Surely the Pope is entirely comfortable with his god – it’s the buggers who worship other gods he has to worry about.
Completely correct Guido, there should be arse-kickings at CGHQ, as that’s a gift of an own-goal from the socialists. Yet it has been – like so many things – allowed to pass un-noticed.
The tories are still clinging to their pathetic belief that they have got to be seen as touchy feely nicey nicey. Ok, fine, let labour shit all over you with their lies…soon history will have been re-written: labour were on course to save the economy, there was no boom and bust, gold was sold at a huge proffit, and the pensions industry was given a massive boost by Gordon McSnot.
If you allow bullshit to go unchallenged, it is not long before it is is accepted wisdom, and lo, the past has been “rectified” socialist style.
Cameron & Co. let the EU bullshit juggernaut thunder on unchallenged. Seems they have been sucked in to the bullshit too.
They could make hay whilst seriously cutting what the country shovels eastwards. “The cost of a new hospital a day saved”, “dramatically reducing the deficit”, “these are real actions, not hollow promises” etc.
What the hell gives?
DEAD RIGHT, SIR!
The current Big Lie (copyright J Goebbels) is that the banks are responsible for the deficit, and Labour are peddling it as hard as they can
The deficit was caused by Brown’s irresponsible recklessness in spending far more than he had coming in. Nothing to do with banks. Entirely to do with the choices Brown exercised.
Don’t CCHQ understand this?
Housing benefit is pushing up the price of houses, half it and give the workers a chance
Anyone who wants to know what is really going on in this crazy world needs to read The Pr0t0cols of the Elders of Zi0n and everything will be explained, read it for yourself.
You’re living up to your name, Huhne. The “Protocols of the Elders of Zion” is a faked document that has been promulgated by Anti-Semites for at least two hundred years. Hitler used this document to give credence to his persecution of Jews in 1930s Germany which led to the building of Auschwitz, Treblinka, Sobibor etc.
By the way, I am NOT Jewish, just a defender of the truth.
Fuck the EU and get rid off Scotland !
Hear, hear Billy.
Would solve the deficit in one go
Let’s wire up all those wind farms to make them blow, and point them so that Scotland is driven out into the Atlantic.
And N Ireland – 70% of the pop depends on us for its income.
……and Wales
Guido, what effin time zone are we in?
Is a honest Politicon an oxymoron
You can tell when a politician’s lying because his/her lips are moving. I’m also beginning to think the etymology of the words ‘manifesto commitments’ is some ancient-Greek phrase meaning “complete load of wank”.
Maybe we should just hang em before they fuck up ?
I think they should all wear explosive collars locked around their necks; the detonator is linked to a built-in lie detector. One untruth and *bang*.
Provided that honest, literate and numerate citizens are the arbiters of what ‘truth’ is.
Then there’s the other sort of moron – the sort that sees the country continually being fucked up yet still believes what politicians say.
Liebour speak with forked tongue,proved over and over again.
If this brings London House prices down to reality and stop accommodating bogus asylum seekers sent up to croydon to report in (ha bloody ha) then maybe the rest of the south of England will breath a sigh of relief as the prices fall the first time buyers just may be able to get a home.
better still the thought of all the buy to let wankers going to the wall brings a broad smile because this one started in London and that is where the pain should be felt hardest.
Then again red Ken said the other day that the population had only gone up by100,000 in the last fifteen years, lying wanker.
when are we going to get guido canidates we can vote for ?
i am so pissed off with the traitor boris ..
Barefaced hypocrisy is what Twats do
All those who are having their housing benefits cut need to do, is to apply for a subsidy to David Cameron. Then decide how much money they want. Double it, and let him beat them down to the original sum. What d’you mean, he couldn’t be that naive? Remember, he’s more Ca-moron than ca-meltrader. E(saw)U(coming).
Have you noticed how Ed Milliband looks and sounds like Wallace ( of Wallace and Grommit)? I simply cannot help smiling every time I see the bloke.
Visit the link below to see a comparison. And next time you see Ed interviewed, just think of Wallace and Grommit. It will lighten your day!
The link is
http://www.flickr.com/photos/r36ariadne/5067977447/
Andy Coulson deserves a kick up the arse, if he’d spotted this posh red Edward Milliband would have been toast. Thank god for Baroness Warsi!