Shadow Minister for “Command and Control”
Labour MP Emma Reynolds sparked outrage last night at an Oxford Union debate. The YBF sponsored event discussing whether the channel was wider than the Atlantic gave the Shadow Junior Foreign Office Minister a chance to share some of her more extreme views on China.
Facing Dan Hannan at the dispatch box, Reynolds said “China’s control and command approach is something to be admired”. UKIP’s Lord Monckton, also taking party in the debate, nearly had a coronary and the speaker had to quell the audible outrage of room. Does her boss Yvette agree with her stance?
All the major econmeys are heading for conumison .
Sorry Guido , But something from the USA a arrogent senator
” I worked hard for this title ”
Am sure we would never hear this from our elected tossers
Just watched the video. What a bitch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Furthermore in our great country? our dearly beloved Queen is quite happy to be addressed as Maam. What the hell is wrong with that american woman?
There ia a really good pisstake of this on you tube .
David Cameron bends over for Brussels and leaves the UK taxpayer with a £435million EU bill.
Lisbon is being changed so where’s the referendum Cameron?
The 435 mill is the increase on what is already being frittered away to Europe.
And how many students are in hock for that sum . . .?
DriftBoy929: “Lisbon is being changed so where’s the referendum Cameron?”
IF Lisbon is being changed, (and this near 500million [pond increase is the normal budgetary bullshit which has nothing to do with Lisbon), then of course we should get a referendum. However, nothing has been decided on Lisbon yet. It does look like the Franco-german wish for there to be changes which WILL require the ratification of every member state, will go through, and IF it does, THEN we should indeed get that promised referendum.
It does look also like Cameron is trying to weasel out of his promise, plege, cast iron guarantee. He is trying to make it look like a change that is not really a change.
What I am saying is, who knows if the French and Germans will find some weasel way to introduce this change in a manner that does NOT meet the needs to have a re-ratification in every member state?
IF that happens, Cameron is lucky. If not, Cameron had better put up, or leave.
Cameron didn’t say if Lisbon needs re-ratified we’ll get a referndum he said if Lisbon is changed at all we get a referendum.
Lying twice on the same issue is going to get noticed.
Indeed there is and you can see it on my blog – http://notasheepmaybeagoat.blogspot.com/2010/10/i-worked-so-hard-to-get-that-title.html
I would mind a bit of Command and Control from Madam Emma.
Me Too! You should not see what I have to come home to after a hard days civil engineering!
You’re drinking early today, Billy.
Cast Iron Cameron has been bought and paid for like the rest of the turds in the HOC,if you want more money from some soft get you double what you want and bargain down to what you really need,no doubt he will come back with his piece of paper saying the EUSSR gave in and don’t need any more countries.
The Chinese have you all by the short and curlies…. How’s that for control?
Note to the BBC, there are no rare Earth metals needing in processor manufacturing, Si, Ge and GaAs are NOT rare.
Am I missing something? As far as I know, they are rare outside of China, because the rest of the world allowed China to become (almost) the sole supplier. It would take time and investment to ramp up supply in the rest of the world and this would cause the price to rise.
Am I wrong?
From Lynas (an Aussie small-scale producer):
Rare Earths are not found as free metals in the earth’s crust, rather within a mixed ‘cocktail’ of Rare Earth elements that need to be separated for their individual or combined commercial use. Despite their name, Rare Earths are relatively abundant in the earths crust, however are often of low quality and rarely presented in economic concentration.
China currently supplies approximately 95% of the global Rare Earths market. More than 70% of the supply of light Rare Earths are supplied from one mine in China. Mt Weld, with its very high grade contains light Rare Earths and is also high in Europium, a heavy Rare Earth.
Yeah that is what I thought. They are not rare in the earth outside china, but are rare outside China in the processed form due to China being the only country that cheaply processes them in the bulk quantities required to meet supply at a low cost.
Misterned, it’s not that China produces them in enough bulk for them to be economical, its that China has the bulk of deposits which can be economically extracted due to their concentration.
Whilst the minerals themselves are relatively abundant they are normally very heavily disperesed in normal soils and cannot be economically extracted.
Rare earth refers not to the minerals but the soil containing the minerals in sufficient quantity and concentration for them to be economically extracted. It is finding them in concentration which is rare, not the minerals themselves.
Coincidentally, there is a piece concerning this very subject in this week’s NewScientist magazine:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20827843.900-will-we-cope-if-the-rare-earths-live-up-to-their-name.html
No!
Quite! But you have to remember the BBC is stuffed full of media wonks who are pig-ignorant of anyting other than their own backsides.
Well that’s true. Even many of the specialist correspondents do not have a deep grasp of their subject.
Most of their science correspondents seem to be arts grads
Rare earth metals are used in high power electric motors as used in all these hybrid cars and such stuff
While I’m definitely not for a command economy, I do have some sympathy with the idea that we need to in some instances put the western world’s obsession with choice and individualism to one side if we are to pursue objectives that will benefit wider society. For example we could consider incentivising students to take up more science and engineering courses via grants?
Budget freeze? What budget freeze? At best, today’s EU summit will confirm the hike demanded by the European Commission: the hike, that is, over and above the increase already built into the 2011 budget. To remind you, Britain’s share of the increase – not our share of the EU budget, our share of the increase – is £380 million.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danielhannan/100061187/no-to-an-eu-budget-hike-no-to-a-new-treaty-yes-to-a-referendum/
Increasing a budget increase by only 2.9% IS a Freeze to these EU bastards.
Dave has let us down, but seeing Labour acting like they care about the taxpayer is a joke. They’re scum.
Gosh that may be the 972nd most outrageous thing ever said at a Blaney Jugend shindig.
What a tit.
Need to see them first before passing judgment, I’d get in between her and Yvette, yum yum. I know it’s perverse but it is Friday.
Well do me a favaour and put your cock in her mouth. At least then she can’t saying anything else offensive. Hopefully Yvette will have a gobfull of minge to keep her from talking bollocks.
But you must be spanked first.
My name isn’t Zute!
Labour seem to have lost the plot completely!
For example, during the Total Politics Top Blog polls, it was mooted there had been a surge in the popularity of left-wing blogs! – Total Bollox more like, take a look at the latest ‘HOT TOPIC’ to grace the front page of LabourLost!
Ideas for electability: Affordable water for all –
It’s true just follow the link, there is a grand total of 1 reply(s)
http://www.labourlist.org/ideas-for-electability-affordable-water-for-all
No wonder we have so many of their dimwits on here.
What all three of them, changing their monikers every other post and answering their own hyperbolic nonsense, with right on agreement?
You think there are nutters on here? Yep, so do I.
But to take a look at a real loony, see one Steven Dobbs who seems to be after some Guinness world record for quantity and quality of pure bollox on Dan Hannan’s D Tele blog. That man is out of his tree; certifiable by any standards (ie defends Labour and the EU – need one say more?).
If you read the comment from Danny, he says;-
‘our Electric cost have gone up from 10 pound a week to about 17 in the last 6 monthes , But then we are on a pre-pay meter’ (sic)
What a tit. If he’s on a pre-pay meter, he’s either a doleite or a bad payer.
The fact that his weekly electricity bill has increased from 10 to 17 pounds is all about consumption and not an increase of 70% in unit cost.
The little pratt is probably operating a skunk weed farm in his wardrobe!!
LabourList is a lost cause. I used to enjoy going over for the turkey shoots, but even that is no fun any more…
I know what that’s like. It’s like shooting fish in a barrel. A very narrow barrel. A barrel whose circumference is just slightly wider than the circumference of the bullet.
I think it’s now three replies. One of the replies thinks that because private water/power companies make a profilt then the Government (as in State ownership) could do so the same. He’s not aware of the fact that if you make a profit then you pay tax on it! So the Governent would be paying taxes to itself. That’s a kind of logic on view at labourlist.org!!!!!!
There are eight replies now, a number that would make Guido fall on his sword if it applied to this blog.
The article might have had some good points, but was utterly daft as a vehicle for ensuring re-electability. I tried to post my own response but don’t care to have my email address in the hands of red nutcases, so I post it below (more Labourtes will see it here than there anyway!).
“Please, please, Labourites – keep on taking this sort of stuff seriously and postpone the day (preferably for ever) when you are able once again to form a government.
“Free of charge, I’ll tell you how to detoxify Labour.
“1. Admit to yourselves and to the nation that you cravenly supported the most dangerous, reckless and immoral people as your leaders, purely to gain and retain power, and beg our forgiveness;
2. Admit and apologise sincerely for your many lies and errors (that’s ‘sincerely’ as decent, non-political people mean the word, not as in ‘put on Tony Bliar’s pretence of sincerity with his special solemn look and his listen-to-me-being-serious voice’);
3. Keep on repeating 1. and 2. for several years;
4. Formulate a plan for national recovery, taking all the time it takes – probably at least five years – that omits all reference to socialism and other failed dogmas and runs a mile from the unions;
5. Dump the wilder reds – Abbott, Livingstone et al – and with them the Red Flag;
6. Elect a leader of achievement, not a rubber-faced PPE clone.
“Oh, and while you’re at it. drop the lies about the budget overspend being caused by the banks. It makes you look stupid as well as deceitful. The overspend was caused by Brown’s fiscal policies and nothing else: in simple, he spent more than his income and had to borrow to cover the gap. The banks are a completely different matter.”
I’ll be really peeved if they do all of that and get back in!
Shouldn’t there be a totty watch tag for this – for totty she is……very spoffable.
Specsavers that way CP >>>>>>>
Never fuck something without a brain though.
Third party tittle tattle, based in nothing other than anonymous hearsay. Can’t you find anything other than dreary crap like this to post?
she’s a retard and so are you
So sheep ok then but blow up doll is out?
Be careful, socialist wimmin don’t clean down below very often.
Yes, but that’s why they’re so shaggable.
Your a very sad person CP,I thought you had taste and were immune to left wing trash,if she thinks the Chinese command and control is great,let her emigrate to the country,wev’e had enoughof left wing trash in this country.
Steady on Albi, it was just a flippant remark on her looks. I find all left wing politics hateful, doesn’t mean she isn’t fit.
You stay away from that type CP they will lead you into trouble but not trouble you would like to lead into, they are a siren on a rock in stormy water they smile at you allow you to come to them and then you find yourself on the rocks and sinking into socialist ways.
BQ industries is still working on the Sarah Palin inflatable bedmate.
Comes with a range of outfits .. Maid…Librarian .. President…Hunter…Traffic Warden…Ho..
Comes with twang, realistic hair, wiggling bum, cheeky glint and squeezing hands.
There was some initial trouble with the factory order. The model was a complete disaster. Sales were almost non existent. But we discovered that the factory had made an error and sent us the Sarah Brown instead.
This came with nagging tone, wagging finger and tweeting thumbs the size of plums. Not suitable at all.
Hopefully the Palin will be in the shops in time for Christmas Mr Pump.
If there are any other model we could source for you?
I am getting a Bill Quango MP inflatable done. I’ll blow it up before PMQ’s and then can bugger off home. First sample is not bad, but doesn’t look bored enough to be authentic.
Bill you missed out you need an electric pump because those tree trunks take ages to blow up.
My suggestion: give her the damn good routing she so obviously needs, and then send her packing to China. For good.
In my youth, I shagged a few leftie girls but they were all absolutely sod all use in the sack. Probably due to some guilt about letting down their commie / feminist principles.
I also did a few very right wing bints too. Similarly crap at it – very selfish.
The best ones have no politics and look – and pretend – like they would not dream of doing such vile things. But when they do, they tend to bang like belt fed mortars! Niiiice!
Belt fed mortars. The mind boggles!
YBF. You’ve been framed?
If it’s so good, perhaps she’d like to placed under house arrest and find even her family members placed under surveillance.
Ed Miliband’s losing his grip already. He’s got to get control of these loons who surround him.
Ed Milliband has no control over the government front bench.
Red Ed will have to ask his bosses what to do,that’s if he can get out of school a bit early.
No, Red Ed should let them carry on as usual. Let them run riot. After all, free speech is something we don’t want to give up. Fuckwits, all.
Ok Here is the spoof
Excellent.
Pretty sure the BBC will approve.
They might not report it.
Not least because the entire staff are at the Cameron conference, apparently.
There to ‘report’ one is sure.
But maybe Helen Boaden is a wee bit nervous about the near inevitable twitter sh*t storm too.
The party Commisars are going to want a word with this particular loose canon – that one child per couple malarky will play havoc with the party vote bank. Definitely a non starter !
Sponsored I think is the correct spelling
Devil’s advocate here (Vatican approved role). There is one Chinese policy you might like. A corrupt public official gets a bullet in the head, appeal process optional after the event….
Does the family still get the bill for the bullet?
I am sure the slaughtered Chinese students & Tibetan people share New Labours love of China’s admirable “command & control”.
Where is Dave holidaying in the winter again ?
What’s that about slaughtering protestors in thailand ?
Go ahead dick find one rock on this planet that ain’t fecked over some one in their past and we will all demand Dave goes there until then china is evil and you are supporting their regime by defending the liebour scum that kisses their butt!!
The Palm Jumeirah, Dubai?
Or better still, Kansai International Airport, Tokyo?
The former is built on rock, the latter on the garbage thrown away by Tokyo citizens – perhaps Davy Blair might feel a greater affinity for it?
Agreed – a disgraceful choice for Cameron to make – but then again, he is the heir to Blair – he even told us beforehand he was a complete Hoon & still muppets voted for him.
Mrs Deputy Prime Minister has written an academic masterpiece all about her love of Chinese control and command. In fact the whole idea is spreading through the communitarian left faster than bird flu through a turkey farm. One is irrevocably drawn to the memory of Mussolini-mania which infested the Left in the twenties and thirties when little peccadilloes like invading Ethiopia using chemical weapons were overlooked by the left because Benito “made the trains run on time”. The pinko illiberal left are fated to ever repeat their mistakes.
Because of their wanky newspeak language it initially seems strange that the left are even more authoritarian than the right. But domination is in their DNA.
Q: What is the answer to every socialist problem?
A: Use force.
“Sponsored” Guido. Not “Sponsered”.
Come on. Let’s not let standards slip.
So what’s your point, Guido?
Mussolini’s transport policy was “something to be admired”, too. Mao’s homemade crispy fried duck was delicious and that Stalin bloke was a brilliant after-dinner speaker.
They were great guys, all three of them. Okay, so they may have had to deal with a few ne’er-do-wells when they were in power, but you can’t make an omelette without breaking eggs.
Let’s face it that Adolf Bloke turned the German economy round in only 10 years which was a mirror reverse of what Gordon Brown achieved.
What’s all the fuss about?
Sister Emma merely radiates the entire Lib/Lab/Con fraternity’s charitable attitude to its Chinese brothers.
Why else would Comrade Dave have ring-fenced the foreign aid budget?
I for one welcome the shadow ministers comments. What other great nation execute prisoners to harvest their organs for sale to wealthy people? None, I tell ya, none.
if we wish to be as great as china we too must execute young, healthy criminals and not let their organs go to waste supporting the body of a criminal.
Absolutely right! Those bodies belong to the State. If the State has need of them, those who pollute the people by committing antisocial acts must expect to have their worthless lives terminated fot the ultimate good of the People’s State.
Another Oxford PPE graduate.
Either she is a useful fool, or she doen’t quite understand Mao’s dicturm ; Power comes out the barrel of a gun.’
Imagine the fuss is a Con MP had stood up to praise the policies followed by the Urguayan Junta from 1974.
Either the woman is misguided or she is not fit to shovel shit.
She could do a speciality on the excellent TelevisionX
Ugly Granny Special XXX?
The Uruguayan Juntu threw left-wing opponents out of helicopters: we could learn.
As the person speaking at the debate, I would also like to highlight that when asked to applaud the sacrifices made by the British people and British armed services in defence of freedom, I refused to clap. Yes, I, Emma Reynolds was the only person to disregard our troops. However, when a point of information was made about the people of Europe, I was happy to cheer them on.
Video or transcript? Seems she was a SPAD at the Foreign Office. Maybe she has been corrupted by having to deal with the FCO.
Beats cutting Housing Benefit. One child then you are sterilised.
has the BBC re tweeted on this topic? No I thought not
PS has anyone asked her if it is Command and Control economies generally that she thinks should be admired or just the current Chinese one? If it is solely the current Chinese version perhaps she could be asked to explain what she finds unattractive about other Command and Control economies compared to the current Chinese economy. Lastly, perhaps she should be asked if she admires the Chinese economy so much that she thinks the Government should seek to replicate it in the UK and in the EU generally?
No but funnily enough that old commie Ted “The Red” Heath DID agree with her.
Front page of the Telegraph I remember the old trout was exposed as supporting dictatorships as a better form of government than democracy. Hence his love for the EU. I don’t suppose the million a year as a consultant to the Chinese government went amiss, nor did the Ming vase in the hallway of Arundels, his home in Salisbury Cathedral Close.
“Sir Ted wanted his collection of art and mementos, including gifts from world leaders such as Fidel Castro, Chairman Mao and Saddam Hussein, to be seen by the public. But Salisbury district councillors have blocked the plan after considering the views of many of Sir Ted’s former neighbours. Some 16 people objected to the scheme, claiming it would ruin the unspoiled and peaceful character and setting of majestic Salisbury Cathedral.”
Labour is full of people who admire the Soviet Union, China and Cuba.
So 13 years of that bunch, you get all that big brother police state shit.
Who’d have thunk it eh?
I always new it, they are a bunch of commies!!
Spot on Sir.Far left fruitcakes.
Your old party the SDP may have made capital out of the loony left 25yrs ago, But comaring a commet about china being good at trade while not criticising the persecution they carry out is harldy loony left
Thanks friend. That has been fun hearing
At least she’s got plenty of balls – even if they are silver and are dangling from her neck.
What the hells the big deal? Last time I checked China came out of the recession faster than any other country. It’s not like she was condoning mass murder. The same arseholes crying about this write for papers that say we should copy China’s drugs policy and shoot addicts in the back of the head.
don’t give me all that big brother police state is due to labour bieng secret stalininst, tehy borught in teh HRA, freedom of information and the stephen lawrence report
Surely the point is that it’s extraordinary for an MP elected to the mother of parliaments to express uch unrestrained admiration for dictatorship by unelected bureaucrats.
It suggests a terminal loss of confidence in the system she is elected to suport. It’s rather as if Montgomery had said “those Nazis really are wonderfully efficient it’s time westarted gassing our Jews and gysies too”
The problem with lefties is that human nature disappoints them and unable to pursuade us to see it their way they resort to force to make us the slaves of their dream.
British socialist declares admiration for Chinese socialist government.
How can this have sparked outrage at a debate in Oxford? About the only place I can imagine people genuinely getting upset would be Labour Party HQ; they’ve worked so hard trying to get people to forget the fact they are socialists having one of their own give the game away must be quite annoying.