Secondary picketing is illegal in this country. So why is the RMT turning out at the London Fire Brigade Union protest? Is Bob calling in the comrades?
Note the massive RMT banner…
It is interesting to note that 22 MPs are sponsored by the RMT including London MPs Dianne Abbott, Stephen Pound , John McDonnell and Jeremy Corbyn. Will there be a wall of silence from these normally outspoken MPs? What role is Bob Crowe playing in these strikes?
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Norman Tebbit has a humble brag:
“We Maastricht rebels were derided and abused for opposing the single currency by the wise, clever, Guardianista soft centre left establishment from whom we now hear so little on the matter.”
Mr Bryant and Mr Watson managing to make the whole hacking affair look like a farce – the more they moan the less I care about the whole subject! So partisan it beggars belief at all costs. They cannot rise above it ! If I was to call the PM a ‘liar’ I would want to be VERY sure.
No point asking Dyin’ Habit – she’s nothing more to say.
Statement from the FBU
To the tune of a Billy Joel hit.
“TONY BLAIR, JACQUI SMITH , RED KEN, BILLY BRAGG
JOHN McFALL, TARIQ ALI AND OLD MICHAEL FOOT.
KERRY MCCARTHY, GALLOWAY , LORD PAUL , JACK JONES
GORDON BROWN, BRENDAN BARBER, TONY WOODLEY
BOB CROW, SUE NYE, DEREK SIMPSON , DAMIAN McBRIDE
QUANGO, “BROWN AND I” what a time to say GOODBYE..
{CHORUS}
We wouldn’t start a fire
they are always burning
even before Gordon’s gurning.
We wouldn’t start a fire
No we didn’t light it
It was the …..
managements intransigence in meeting our demand that caused the fire and they are responsible if anyone gets hurt… not us..oh now…we are blameless for our own actions.
Modded! was it something i said.
And you modded that BBC piece on the other thread.
Good that was.
Talk to yourself , why dontcha , Guido , darlin ?? x .
**Everyone rushes off to watch the BBC News at 6**
E x .
No. Sky, ITV are much better and cheaper on the taxpayer’s pocket. How many news readers do the BBC actually need to retain? Time for huge cuts in the BBC and stop the imposed licence tax. Useless socialist propoganda machine acting way beyond its remit of an independent broadcaster. Time for change, we just need a politician with the courage to bring it about- sadly, that will not be gutless Dave or Nick.
BBC as socialist propaganda machine! words almost fail me is this person witless brain dead, or just so politically far to the right of the late definitely NOT lamented Enoch Powell that he is feeing the effects of weightlessness. By independant broadcasters I guess he is probably thinking of organisations like SKY.
Have to agree about Dave and Nick being……… well I could wish for a more physical gutlessness as a result of “being hung drawn and quartered” Tory vandalls doing what they always do destroying public services because they don’t believe in spending money at least not on the proles just SMILE AT THE CAMERAS AND HOPE THAT NO ONE REMEMBERS THAT LAST TIME AROUND SMALL GOVERMENT MEANT PRIVATISING EVERYTHING INCLUDING HOSPITAL CLEANING. BUT THEN THEY DON’T GO TO THOSE KIND OF HOSPITALS.
Christ! what a twat
MONG Dildo! I see you’ve got the nights again.
Are you a firefighter?
Goodness me, Bill, you really hate the unions, don’t you?
Very telling indeed.
I’m a member of two unions.
Stranger and stranger.
What unions are you a member of?
Well I’m not a member of any trade union – never have been, never will be. They are a bunch of pig-ignorant, arrogant spongers. Since when did you ever see a union leader out on strike? No loss of pay for them. They get their idiot, brain-dead moronic members to do all the dirty work – more fool them. If they don’t like their working conditions then leave and get another job – or work for yourself, like me. They just don’t have the guts. Fuck em.
I cannot say but you can guess. One is a major Labour contributor, despite labour shafting them regularly. I’m the loan voice of moderation which no one listens to.
The last strike was about as effective as the BA one. Look at those chumps.
They are now having to try and hold out long enough just for a return to the situation they enjoyed before they manned the barricades.
I know a senior adviser on that one too. Once the brothers start singing the Red Flag and making up scare stories its “Everybody out” and reason disappears.
All ends badly, with worse conditions that could have been achieved by negotiation and only lukewarm,easily ignored, face-saving guarantees that the union bosses will embrace to declare a victory.
If you strike you have to win.
It doesn’t help that the management bosses are no better than the union bosses. That’s what happens when neither side is willing to give or take on even the mildest of reforms. Brian Coleman comes across as a complete knob.
If the plan to strike on Nov 5th was to force some more talks soon then its a reasonable plan. If it wasn’t just a stunt but is a real strike plan then the strike is doomed.
I agree, Bill, reason will win the day.
Which means that there is only one course of action left: both parties in the dispute will have to go to acas to have this dispute resolved by mediation.
The Fire Brigade will be happy to follow that course of action but should the management refuse to attend we will know that they are the unreasonable party in this dispute.
Channel 4 are reporting that 27 PRIVATE fire engines have stepped in to cover November 5th.
Up yours bruvvers
Trouble is OH, the strikers will use violence upon violence in order to stop the private fire engines from putting fires out, blockades with cars and bikes, open intimidation, threats to kill.
They would rather see someone die than let a private firm do the job.
Wankers!
You’ve been watching too many Rambo films.
You Tories make me laugh, you’re such numpties.
I like tranny p0rn. So does the wife.
But if the strike goes ahead, no-one dies and London doesn’t burn to a crisp, maybe that tells us just how many ‘brave firefighters’ we really need.
I suggest Fireman Sam thinks hard before allowing the inconvenient truth to be revealed.
Time to send in the SAS and sort them out!
Re the Beeb, did you see the interview they did with the MD of Ford Motors who have made the best profits for years apparently. When asked how they did it by the Beeb dollybird, the answer was ‘we cut this and we cut that and we cut something else and were thus able to get on and make lots of money’. The Beeboid gushed about how wonderful that was – but totally failed to see the connection between what Ford did ad what Dave and Oz are trying to do. Ford cuts good. Libcon cuts bad? Very odd.
No wonder ‘Anonymous’ wishes to remain so. I would too if I posted such inane, idiotic and irritating comment such as they posted…..SAS indeed! Did you think that up all on your own? Well done.
Lol
Good one Bill
Hah, LOL. Nice one Bill!
Guido………you’re a bit of a fool to say the least.
You mean they aren’t getting sponsored by Murdoch ?
Hope Dave, Gibson and Nick go on strike for few years!
Which Gibson would that be? Mel?
Dianne Abbott, Stephen Pound and John McDonnell
You need say no more Guido.The Trots are on the march again. Time for Action.
They burnt Guido Fawkes for treason it’s time these union barons were given the lighted faggot under the toes treatment. I’m so sucking fed up with socialism and unions and tbe Labour party. Sack the bastards and reinstate those that want to work with a no strike union free workforce…………. Grrrrrr!!!
And who said Communism was dead? Bring it on baby the Marxists are ready to rock and Roll.
They’re all communitarians now. Do catch up.
A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.
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if you need a cab, their service is fab,
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send them a text it’s directory heaven,
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a plumber or sparks, or a place to see sharks.
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Who gets arrested the illegal striker or the illegal supporter?
I wouldn’t piss on Bob Crowe even if he was on fire, the fat Hunt needs torching.
Get the army in there, armed, the ole FB Union will soon run a fucking mile along with Bob and his mate….I use the singular form as a matter of course….
The unions are going to kick some really big ass.
Stephen Pound or Diane Abbott?
“What role is Bob Crowe playing in these strikes?” Suppling the bog rolls, as usual
No he’s into stirring sh1t, not wiping it off.
Have to say Bob Crow looks like a Crow in that picture.
Socialism in action!
As soon as that fat c’unt Crow gets involved any chance of publc sympathy goes straight out the window.
A man goes to the doctor and complains about his sore nose. He says he won’t need a sick note as he’s on strike.
The doc looks at him and says “Don’t picket, you’ll make it worse”
Snot funny Mr Grimsdale.
Fantastic – we will soon have a legitimate reason to crush this fcuker and his union!
Socialist Union leaders like Bob Crow are turning firemen into a laughing stock.
Compare the brave firemen of the blitz with those now emasculated by their Socialist leader Matt Wrack:
http://bit.ly/bujivp
it could be that ordinary working people still have a few rights left after the millionaire bankers and politicians have ruined the country …. but that seems to be okay in your book …. fascist pig
what the fuck would you know about “ordinary working people”?
The only Hunts who use that fucking phrase are champagne socialists riding on the backs of the poor to fill their own hooning fucking pockets!
“ordinary working people”, my arse. Fuck off!!
Well said. AandB is a crybaby socialist living off Daddies earnings from bashing the natives and stealing all their mineral wealth.
He’s got the stench of an
OxfordOxford Brookes Polytechnic Political Stupidity Diploma about him.I would be amazed if Gobby Abbot can keep it shut.
No mon. Me not keepin nuttin shut. How else me gwan get me jerk chickaah in me mouth, blud? Bogle bogle.
Yo mamma! Can i az me moneys for ma drugs innit.
Da big boiz is wantin sum o dat speshul Jamaycan Jerk herb mon. U noes. Dat stuff u got growin in da garden dat da whitey man gardenin ting grows for uz.
What will Red Ed say tomorrow at PMQs? Charlie Whelan will tell him what to say!
Unions trying to bring the government down … fire up the quattro!
….. and the country with it.
Typical. Have to use a German car to defeat British reds.
It’s time for another war. A proper one, not the game of pattacake going on in the ‘stan.
It will rebuild our manufacturing base and then we can shoot any red robbos for sedition.
I fancy invading France. The cheese eating surender monkeys haven’t got any fuel to move their mechanised infantry at the moment…
Those RMT/FBU scum in the video are clearly obstructing the (stand in) emergency services in the line of duty, an offence under the Emergency Workers (Obstruction) Act 2006. The penalty is a fine of £5000.
There must have been 100 people there. I make that a cool half-a million, just send the bill to Bob Crow.
If the Conservative party decides to ignore the law and put the public in danger then why should anybody else follow the law?
The Tories should lead by example and start to follow British Law.
We follow English common sense not Marxist ideology dear boy.
Shame you don’t follow British Law, eh Trev.
And to think, the Tories used to be the law and order. How the mighty fall on the altar of political expediency.
How the Looney fall over their own feet.
There is not a tory government, there is a tory-liberal-democrat coalition government.
Go back to the 5th form and get to work on a more relevant slogan.
Merely following Labours example old boy. You Hunts turned defying the law into a fucking artform. Not to mention buying off the pigs, who these days couldnt catch a fucking cold.
After all, the law is only meant for the little people innit?
The sheeple voted for Blair-lite instead of that one eyed prick, so thats what they fucking got.
Labour giving anyone shit about “credibility”…. fucking hell… ROTFLMMMFAO!
The cancer of these self-serving Trots must be crushed.
What role is Bob Crowe playing in these strikes?, he is standing by with a box of matches and a jerry-can full of petrol (as an accelerant).
If Lard Prestwot stands by there will be no need of a can of petrol… one of his gruesome farts after lunch would do the same damage if lit with a match!
Well, I suppose if they cremate the fat f***ers Abbot and Crowe, they’d have had to lay on catering and accommodation for three f***ing days for the mourners while they burn away like a forest fire of f***ing flab!
Why the long faces, folks? Every f***ing account of these people’s lives are textbook studies in sheer f***ing obese c***worthiness!! Fat, overpumped f***ing warblers with zero f***ing consideration for the people they represent.
what a bunch of saddo’s you are on this vile blog !!
And you’re reading it and you just posted on it. You are Chris Bryant and I claim my £5.
He can’t be- he didn’t include a picture of himself in his y-fronts.
Up come my dinner, thanks mate!
f*ck off then and go finish your home work.
Oh dear, did-dums is a little upset then,never mind pop over to liebour lost and have a moan on that blog.
No moaning allowed.
United front.
Dissent punishable by forcible removal of ponytail.
lmao
Full refund in THAT direction….
Yes, having read the nasty and unintelligent posts on this thread I must say I agree with you, bill, they are a bunch of vile saddos.
Well as an infrequent visitor I take it you don’t get to read this blog much therefore your views are not based a long term study and can be dismissed as having no basis in fact !.
So er f%^& off SWP puppy !
Thank you for offering further evidence of the vulgarity and lack of intelligence of the posts here.
Please just leave the blog old bean, you’re upsetting my wifes Labradors.
Having read this blog regularly, I honestly hope most of you are gang-raped and impregnated by rabid african monkeys. That aside, I reserve comment.
Bill Posters will be prosecuted.
If it’s tuesday the duty judge will be M’Learned Beast.
Expect suspension by the nuts with cheesewire and a cactus in the anus, if he decides to show mercy…
Bill Posters is innocent!
What role is Bob Crowe playing in these strikes? Hmmm? That is the burning question.
He’s quaffing champers and eating foie grais in his mansion like the good socialist he is.
When is he back on ‘ Have I got news for you’ the Beeb have not been fulfilling their impartial obligation promoting lefties.
To be fair he ended up looking as thick as pig shit last time he was on HIGNFY.
Looking as? Come come…
We ain’t picketing, mate. We’re just keeping our comrades supplied with flasks of sugary tea and cucumber sandwiches.
Is that alright with you Mr. Guy Fucking Hunched Over My Laptop Not Doing Anything Constructive Fawkes, son?
Strange never heard Bobby boy crowing when Liebour destroyed the Merseyside Fire Brigade,sorry “Service” that’s one joke in it’s own right,what the hell is a community fire station,is it one where they have half a dozen fire appliances parked up ,but only enough firemen to crew one.
This picture wasn’t taken during this set of strikes, but many years back, you’ll care to note.
That’s maybe so but the fuckers were up to the nasty tricks on Saturday.
During the last dispute RMT claimed they were not safe driving tube trains without fire brigade cover. Flimsy pretext I know but the bastards tried it anyway.
Don’t think so. The ambulance is wearing a 54 plate (so not before Sep 2004), and the fire engine has the up to date website for the London Fire Brigade painted above the windshield.
But more convincingly, both the Fire Brigade and the union rep confirmed that it happened on 23 Oct, 2 days ago. Check it out at http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-11618751 Same video.
More background context from the person who shot the video at http://virtuphill.blogspot.com/
Windscreen please. This is an English language blog.
What big eyes you have grandma. Well spotted.
Would it be terribly cruel to take some white paint to the firefighter’s jackets and add
“You’re” above, and the letter “D” after the word FIRE ?
Where were Bob’s boys, always so worried about tube safety, when an innocent member of the BLT community got pushed under a London tube train today, eh? Not more concerned about sabotaging and undermining the government, shurely?
Correction. Better late than never. That should read ‘yesterday’, not ‘today’.
Bacon, Lettuce and Tomato community, WTF?
He’s just run out of the letter G and any sense of spelling his sad little Liebourite acronyms…
anonymous, which “picture” are you ferring to?
As bled white notices, I filmed that video footage over the weekend.
More here: http://virtuphill.blogspot.com/
I have more footage of saturday night which I might upload later. Another resident in my blog also videos this, around or not long after 6pm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgohJcdNMws&sns=fb
oh, in addition, the blogpost I wrote on Sunday night (posted monday) about the demonstration is here: http://virtuphill.blogspot.com/2010/10/lfu-strikes-were-demonstrators-harming.html
Its well past time that Bob Crowe danced the Tyburn Jig – string the fukker up I say!!!
No he just needs to retire to his luxury summer home in cuba with his cuban servants all paid for by subscriptions from rmt members.
Phillip Hammond doing a good job on Newsnight.
Angela Eagle has all the personality of a wet rag.
Turned off ,her voice is so boring it could peel paint off wood.
Labour are shamelessly attempting to claim credit for the good financial news, conveniently forgetting they’ve been out of power for almost six months. Be interesting to see which of our esteemed news organisations will push this line tomorrow….
Hang on, a few weeks ago they were fearing a double dip recession which would be the result of as at the time,unknown and unapplied goverment cuts.
I note they take no responsibility for the 6% shrinkage in the economy in 2009 but blame the banks.How then,can they take 100% credit when the economy moves in the opposite direction?
use me as landfill
Evenin’ Bob.
Burn Baby, Burn!
He’s just encouraging the strike.
A firestarter.
a twisted firestarter.
There won’t be any strike, Bill. The Conservative Minister responsible for the Firemen will bottle it.
You can bet on it.
He hasn’t sounded like he will. Even fat Gordon couldn’t get the posties not to try their doomed strike. What chance that the firebrigade will listen to a Tory.
Or do you mean that he will give in, so precipitating a wave of strikes from across the public sector. He can’t, can he? Even if he wanted to.
Well done, Bill, you are seeing the bigger picture.
The first shot has been fired by the Tories, who, at the same time as they cut services start attacking legal rights of workers.
Let’s see how the motherfuckers like what is going to follow.
This action will be resolved as soon as the Eric Pickles withdraws his ridiculous attempt to sack people who legally strike.
Eric is one of the few ‘likeable’ Conservative Ministers. Mr Pickles should understand that not only is the safety of the public at risk due to his incorrect position but so is his own career. The front bench needs Pickles so they would be well advised to do the right thing.
Um.. Boris may have ministerial ambitions, but he ain’t there yet!
If London Fire Brigade Union goes on strike, health ans safety laws and clauses in insurance will stop number of people doing their job. One of it is London underground.
As Green Goddess have been sold to Africa and army has sent to Afghanistan, London could come to a halt. Hope Dave, Osborne and Nick can go out with horse pipes and bottled water to bring fire under control as part of the big society.
London won’t come to a halt, legislation was introduced so during FBU strikes the full fleet of LFB Engines are made available to AssetCo contract workers I believe.
Nobody here take issue with sacking people and offering them continued employment on significantly worse contracts? I’m not opposing practical reform, but as a general principle could we call this fair?
What’s the betting that most of AssetCo’s people are off duty firefighters from the home counties earning a bit of bunce.
With regard to the second paragraph, what exactly is FBU’s beef.
Who is paying for AssetCo? Are they trained? What do they do in other times?
Hope London is closed for few weeks and bankers could stay at home rather than ruin our country.
As long as there are fires aplenty in Tower Hamlets on the 5th of November, they can strike all they want.
Its common practice in the private sector.
Anyone can have their contracted HOURS of work changed with just four weeks notice. there is no compensation.
If the Labour government had paid even a 1% interest on what happened to people’s lives, jobs and pensions in the private sector then the public sector might get a bit more support.
As it is.. I don’t recall Bob coming out on strike when it was half pay or piss off for those without a public teat to suck..
Sounds like people working in the private sector need to be protected by unions from having their contracts summarily change at the whim of their employers.
You have raised an excellent point about how abusive and unfair that is, well done, Bill!
Because Cuba is such a dynamic economy…
You can only protect jobs at the expense of customers.
That makes the country poorer.
Yet again, more proof that Marxism = Wealth destruction.
Cuba?
WTF?
If you want to look at the best example for right wing capitalist country look no further than Afghanistan. You can produce what ever you want and steal from any one as long as you have power and money. It also have one of the smallest and irrelevant government as well, looks like this is what Dave wants for UK.
You really are a dullard, private sector jobs have no magic money to “protect” them when times get hard, the company must always adapt or die. It’s a harsh reality. The public sector sucks on the wealth created by the private sector and additionally adds costs via taxation, borrowing and debt. Kill the private sector via trades unionism, as nearly happened in the 70′s and the whole economy goes down the shitter.
Magic money?
The only cost that will be incurred to solve this dispute is the cost of a stamp and an envelope containing the letter from Eric Pickles retracting his threat to sack any Firemen who go on strike.
And the shoe leather spent travelling to the post box to send it of course. As soon as that has been received the strike will be called off.
Easy, so easy. Surely Pickles won’t let people die over the cost of a stamp?
i WISH YOU WOULD JUDT FUCK OFF AND DIE YOU DOZY TWAT
Mr Quango,
It is only common practice in the private sector if the workers have signed a contract saying that their hours can be varied with 4 weeks notice and no compensation. The firemen’s contract does not have that as a term and their bosses have no right to unilaterally break a contract without something like bankruptcy on their part as a reason.
Dirty tricks are common in all sectors of society, private and public and that is why unions are sometimes a helpful thing for people who would otherwise be shat on with no redress.
The name I use tells you my opinion of socialism and it is a great tragedy that union membership in this country has become so involved with the poison of socialism. A kneejerk reaction that anything to do with a union means support for red scum is incorrect.Contracts should be honoured, that is one of the planks on which all of society stands. In no way should anyone, and esp that most evil and murderous of all organisations, the state, be able to come along and unilaterally vary or break any contract or demand that new and worse ones be adopted under duress.
The Army don’t and have never done firefighting, they just drive. The firefighting is done by the RN and RAF, both of whom now have lots of time on their hands……
They don’t want to be Firemen, so Fire Them!
Simples.
Light blue touch paper, don’t retire 10 yards and pour petrol on.
**DON’T try that at home, kids**
To busy ponsing around making calenders of themselves, real hero’s don’t go on strike they PATROL HELMAND under equipped for 14k a year.
Hmmm. They are just another bunch of public servants but I bet they don’t get to lie in their tents, for weeks on end, playing Scrabble.
Yep, lifes a breeze in Afghanistan. Tell you what, why don’t you put your arse on the line for £14,000 a year bigboy?
I would but I know you wouldn’t.
Maybe because I paid attention in school and got some A-levels.
They knew the salary when they applied to be government cannon fodder.
Hmmmm! then go to Selly Oak Hospital for the day and ask the brave but busted troops if they got a triple word score or their legs blown off by a I E D.
It’s the firemen playing Scrabble. Can’t you read?
My mistake, my apologies.
Our troops make this lot look like over-paid, cosseted pygmies by comparison. If this is about different shift patterns for the same hours and money, I don’t think they have a leg to stand on. If they want to commit job suicide then that is their decision, aided and abetted by the usual union wreckers whose only interest is in bringing down the government and then the country.
I hope DC has grown a very large pair because he’s going to need them
Hugh, bad news I’m afraid. We have decided to reduce your wages, increase your hours and cut your benefits.
As you are not a member of a union you will just have to take it up the arse and suck my dick.
You can go now Hugh.
Awwww the little SWP bitch is unhappy that the people won’t follow his red dawn !hahahahahhahahahhahhahhahha
Dr Septimus, bad news I’m afraid, you are a useless wanker and we have to let you go as you serve no discernible function whatsoever. We checked your claim about being a doctor and found out you are not a doctor at all, merely a fraud. And you also have mental health problems that you did not declare at your interview or on your application form so for making false contracts I am sorry to say that your contract is now null and void.
Good bye.
Security, could you please escort Mr Pretorious from the building. Thank you.
I actually took part in covering for the Firemen in the last Fireman’s strike in 2002/2003. Ha just come back from a six month tour in Kosovo and we had our leave monkeyed round with in order to cover the strikes.
We had one day of training on the Green Goddess and were deemed fit to fight fires. Our 2nd Battalion actually went and did a few weeks training so could use the breathing apperatus and enter burning buildings.
So we covered the strikes (me in Saff London) and were not called upon once from our station. Sat around watching DVDs and moaning. We were all really pleased to have to change our plans/holidays to cover for the Firemen’s greed.
The biggest problem was that all the lads wanted to then sign off and become a Fireman- more pay for doing virtually nothing. We were told that there were 50 applicants for each vaccant position.
I say sack every single one of them who won’t work and offer the jobs to ex-military folk.
Deafening silence from the troll in response to a post from someone who was actually on Op FRESCO…. Quelle fucking surprise.
Motion seconded Angry.
Angry – it’s called being ‘on call’, you dick.
Government to auction the right to hand a striker a p45.
Put me down for 100 quid bid!
Sounds good to me!
Take a risk and don’t insure? Then you don’t get a fire service.
Of course you want EVERYONE ELSE to subsidise your risks, (because you’re a lazy entitlement addicted mong).
This is what we in economics terms call an Incentive, and a very bad one too.
Of course just a few years ago our very own extortion funded and currently striking firemen left people to die under the ground at Aldgate cos of Elf-and-Safety…
Hahahahahahaha!!
I knew a septic fuckwit like you would love it.
You’re so hilariously predictable.
What’s the view like from up Bush and Blair’s arse you redneck retard ?
Many American houses are made of ticky-tacky and old Macdonalds clamshells, so they burn real easy.
Bad news I’m afraid, AC1. You have been on benefits too long and we have decided to stop your money.
We have also reduced your housing benefit payments and you will have to move into a B&B.
Now fuck off.
T(w)AT’s been at the tixylix again I see.
Yep. It’s a pity he’ll never have a job. Let alone run his own successful company.
In later years I hope he’ll learn to cope with his growing sense of failure.
You have already said that your company makes no profit.
When you have run a successful company that produces profits you will be able to lecture others on the subject of success.
You’re a loser, you are not what you appear to be…..
“are clearly obstructing the (stand in) emergency services in the line of duty”
Cleethorpes Rock, pretending that this video is valid for discussion of this strike, what duty would that be? Sitting around? It’d never stand up!
The Unions are in meltdown. I doubt many people will support this strike.
This strike will NOT have public support, they’ve fucked up more than they did when they wanted that massive fucking pay rise a while back.
Keep on bleating, Tory stooges.
The Conservatives are going to bottle it. They are responsible for the safety of the public. If anyone dies because the Conservative Minister’s threat to sack Firemen for striking those deaths will be his responsibility.
This conflict has the potential to bring about the downfall of the government.
Which is why they will bottle it. The Conservatives have no mandate and no popular support and are cutting public services to the bone, and now, we discover, they are playing games with public safety.
If anyone dies over this avoidable dispute which was triggered by the Conservative government have no doubt at all that the Tories will be held to account for those avoidable deaths.
You don’t actually believe this drivel do you?
These are the facts of the matter. That you describe those facts as drivel achieves nothing but to expose your ignorance of the dispute which is caused by your hatred of the organisations that protect workers.
This Labour stooge we have here of late is worse than the usual pimply crap they throw on here.
They must fear this site to make so much effort, however useless.
No expense has been made at all, think of it as my contribution towards David Cameron’s Big Society!
1) I’m not a Tory
2)’This conflict has the potential to bring about the downfall of the government’. ROFL. Do me a fucking lemon!
You really are shit.
Boo hoo, don’t cry, pompous.
The battle lines have been drawn. The Tories will lose.
No popular support, you see. No mandate. Too many cuts.
People forgot why they hated the Tories so much, things like this remind them what a bunch of wankers the Tories are.
They’ll have popular support over these strikes, the public doesn’t like p*ss taking firemen, remember that £40,000 a year they wanted….?
“The battle lines have been drawn.” LOL! Been playing ‘Warcraft’ have you?
You need to separate fantasy from reality, you deluded monng.
Fuck off tat you Trotskyist turdgurgler
Firemen save lives – Tories put lives in danger.
Trying to blackmail people who save lives is a road to ruin.
As Eric Pickles is just about to find out.
I think you’ll find the public will blame the firemen. Tat you’re talking outa your arse again.
I expect dave would like to thank bob for providing a nice little distraction from our economic woes and uniting the country against greedy and public sector workers.
This dispute has been going on for 5 YEARS, not 5 months you bellend, if the caring sharing Liebour party had any compassion to this issue, then sureley they would have accepted the firemen (unions) demands would they not?
Funny though, they decide to strike when Liebour are out of power, funny that, aint it?
Mandate = May 6 election
Popular support = 3% ahead of Labour in the polls.
May 6 – started talking to the Liberal Demotwats because the Tories had no popular support.
Instead of the Liberal Demotwats telling the Tories to fuck off and form a minority government Nick Clegg got down on his knees and started sucking David Cameron’s cock so he could get a ministerial limo and the faux title of Deputy PM.
Clegg got mugged and sold his party down the river.
History will not judge Cameron or Clegg kindly.
So, to return to my original point, the Tories have no mandate.
Oh, and regarding your second point about the 3%: you don’t believe in market research polls do you, Sir Waad?
How quaint.
In your dreams only Sion. BTW, I am not a Tory either.
No, you’re just a cock.
You, in all your incarnations, are a complete fucking idiot.
Repeat after me:
“this is a coalition government, not a tory government”.
FFS!
I think Dave (or Eric) should just privatise the lot over the weekend. Then let them get on with it.
This was in reply to 29 above. Gawd knows how it finished up down here.
They can call on me anytime, I’ve got a massive great pump.
Yeah, with lots of ‘concrete’ for you to swallow, bitch……!
I love the feel of concrete pump in my bumhole.
That’s it….cup the balls.
My balls are like concrete when I cum all over you.
If the FBU go ahead with the proposed strike on November 5 they will be scoring a massive own goal.
The Coalition must not blink, they must completely ignore the FBU.
The public will condemn the FBU and they will lose any support they may currently have
You don’t understand the conflict’s basis.
Go away, learn about what the dispute is over and then come back, eat humble pie and support those who are being threatened with the sack for action they are legally entitled to carry out.
Fucking hell, The Tories have no respect for the law. Who’d have thought, eh?
Everyone knows what the dispute is about you moron. The public will side with the government. Read Calhoun’s last sentence, get it into your thick fucking skull.
Now do one.
But not everybody understands the reasons for the conflict, pompous, as you clearly don’t.
Eric Pickles has threatened to sack any Firemen who strike. But the Firemen are legally entitled to strike.
So, Eric Pickles is in the wrong and will have to change his position.
If he wishes to sack people for striking then he should talk to his PM and the PM should make a law making it possible for the government to sack people who go on strike.
You could say Eric’s in a right pickle!
concrete pump says:
October 26, 2010 at 12:06 pm
They’re going on strike because of how it was worded, ‘take the 12 / 12 hour shift pattern over the 15 / 9 hour or find another job…….sounds reasonable to me.
Maybe they should be a bit less sensitive.
This was from the previous thread – short memory?
“You could say Eric’s in a right pickle!”
Hadehaha…very funneeee and original, you should write for the fucking Beano (Daily Mirror)
pompa, I keep explaining to you the basis of the dispute but you appear to be too retarded to understand.
The Firemen will not strike if Eric Pickles withdraws his threat to sack Firemen who legally strike.
All Eric has to do is sit down, dictate a letter, sign it and then this terrible risk he is taking with the safety of the public will be taken care of.
Is Eric Pickles really willing to kill people because he is unwilling to write a letter?
The firefighters will effectively sack themselves if they don’t sign the oh-so-onerous contracts that keep their jobs, their working hours and make minor changes to their shift patterns.
What’s the real issue over timing anyway? I assume having a shorter nightshift means they can’t kip on full pay for as long?
They have already signed those contracts, they signed them when they were offered the job.
You mean re-sign different contracts.
By the way, your boss wants to see you today, he wants you to re-sign the contract he previously offered you, you are on less money, less holiday, less benefits and more hours.
So you don’t want to sign that contract? Well if you don’t you will be sacked.
So you’ve changed your mind now, eh, and don’t think it is such a good idea to set a precedent whereby contracts are worth no more than toilet paper and wherby employers can turn around to you and say “well if the contracts of Firemen who do dangerous jobs can be changed then so can yours penpusher, now sign or fuck off”
See how it works?
So the PMT is supporting the FKU? How appropriate.
A red rag to a bull if you ask me (not many do).
The true story of Guy Fawkes, the man caught at the scene
http://www.youtube.com/v/5C_K1-PzCss?version=3
Keep on bleating Guido.
The people who are breaking the law are the employers of the Firemen who are threatening to sack them for striking. It is the legal right of the Firemen to strike.
The Firemen will not strike if the Conservative Minister stops threatening them with the sack if they strike.
If anybody dies during Bonfire Night as a consequence of the Conservative Minister’s refusal to withdraw his untenable threat then those deaths will lie directly at the Conservative government’s door.
Guido has scored an incredible own goal on this one: not only has he exposed himself as anti-freedom and therefore anti-Libertarian, he has also taken sides with lawbreakers and yet here he is, lecturing people about the law.
You’re a fucking joke, Guido. And you have backed a donkey.
Ha ha ha.
and it’s legal to sack people who go on strike.
Nice to know there’s still life, but not as we know it, in labour’s lalaland.
Keep on bleating, AC1.
And when the Conservative Minister responsible for the safety of the public decides he has to back down and withdraw his ridiculous threat to sack people for striking I will gloat at your stupidity.
You’re a loser, you are not what you appear to be….
The FBU are just trying to Mine taxpayers pockets.
We saw how well that worked out for Scargills union members…
The only bleating here spews forth from the bargain basement Labour troll who has little better to do than post his/her pale and feeble bilge.
You may go.
Keep on bleating? Fucking pots and kettles, mate, you’ve been spouting the same complete shite all bloody day. You are so bloody boring.
M’clod,
1)design an easy to understand message
2)repeat that message.
First lesson free.
Firemen are having a fucking joke. They do save the occasional life, but work very little the rest of the time.
the unions would know abour donkeys ofcourse cos they are all led by them, as before
lions led by donkeys, back to scargill
Lot of firefighters on here today.
I thought I’d wandered over to Dale’s LBC show for a moment.
Anyway, good luck with your strike. But if a child is injured you know it will all be over don’t you? Red Tops will take you apart. Its a complete lose-lose for the FBU.
Person injured = Cowardly firefighters
No person injured = Why do we need these people, they do nothing
Why not strike on the 4th and 6th and proudly say “we are determined to do our duty to protect the people of London. Management don’t care , but members do.
But be advised that if the cuts we secretly think are going to happen next year do happen, there won’t be any fireworks as there won’t be any crews.”
Or do dreams of militant tendency prevent the use of a powerful and sensible PR strategy?
There won’t be a strike, Bill, the Tories are going to bottle it.
And why do you keep saying that responsibility for the safety of the public lies with the Firemen when we have already established that legal responsibility lies with their employers, the Conservative party.
Get your facts straight Bill, or you will lose what little credibility you have left.
And to think, you used to be funny, once.
I survived the 2002 strike so I’m really not frightened of the FKU now.
Just don’t smoke in bed drunk.
I see. I don’t know how you can possibly think that The Sun, with a full page picture of a beautiful 5 year old child, with an insert of same badly burnt child’s face and the headline, FIREFGHTERS LEFT HER TO BURN, or some such, will engage the public’s sympathy for your plight.
Especially when it emerges on day 2 that it was a bunch of hoodies who were throwing fireworks through windows, but police were unable to attend as they were dealing with trying to get strike breakers engines through a union cordon.
All the spin about bosses made us do it is never going to wash away that image. Don’t think you can go on strike and then say “it wasn’t me guv! blame the Tories”and walk away clean.
I only mention it as its possible that union bosses haven’t story boarded the possible outcomes for the members.
I thought we had a coalition government….silly me.
Jesus wept!
Have you nothing else to say.
Or are you working from a old copy of the spinners handbook, the bit that says keep repeating yourself and people will start to believe the most asinine crap.
I asked Dave if I could borrow that book but he said Gideon is using it.
The fireman are moonlighting lions led by donkeys. Hopefully even these dim witted lions will wake up to see they are being used by their fat pig union masters. Read animal farm dick brain.
Erm, the firefighters are striking because they don’t like the new rotas and the employers have threatened to sack them if they don’t sign the new contracts. The threat of dismissal has nothing to do with them striking but don’t let that get in the way of your story.
Also, i’m not quite sure how this is the responsibility of a minister as i haven’t heard them issuing any threats. They’ve just condemming the strike.
The only joke round here is you. You’re a fucking retard if you actually believe what you’ve written
They are not being sacked. Their existing contracts have been terminated and they have been offered new contracts with different terms. It’s their choice if they choose not to take the new contract. There’s thousands who would given the choice.
Spot on, smoggie.
The ‘brave firefighters’ retain the right to take their labour elsewhere if they don’t like the deal on offer. That’s the real world for all wage-slaves – get used to it.
There’s already more than 2 million unemployed, most of whom will soon be seeing their benefits cut and realise they now need to get a job. Add to that the extra million joining the list next year and there will be plenty of happy new firemen and women. Bring it on.
Maybe jobs for firemen/women should be given to people who want to be firemen/women?
If they go on strike it says they don’t want the job.
They’ve sacked themselves i.e. resigned.
Sorry but I am afraid you have hot this all mangled, no one is under threat for striking. They are simply having their terms changed – a very common and legal process.
And the minister is not responsible for industrial relations.
Please check your facts, before mouthing off.
Eric Pickles is directly responsible for the Fire Service. If he is not up to that responsibility then he should resign.
If he does not sign a letter retracting his threat to sack legally held strikes he will be responsible for people dying.
Hope you sleep well tonight, Eric.
Tek it easy lad or ‘ll ave to whip yer knackers off with me penknife!
You’re not very bright, are you? Still – keep the comedy coming…
I hate to feed a troll but any deaths will be very clearly the responsibility of the firemen who withdraw their labour. If they had chosen any other weekend to strike then I might have had a shred of sympathy but they have forfeited that by chosing the weekend of 5 November.
Five years not to come to an agreement? Ridiculous and yes I do think the FBU waited until there was a conservative government.
Striking on Nov 5th will be seen by the public as malevolent.They know the accident figures on such evenings and choose to turn their backs on the public.I have no sympathy whatsoever for any of them ,the private sector has sufferered for the last few years and many have no job and/or lost their home I bet they’de jump at the chance to gain such employment as the Firefighters have.
As for people blaming the government, that may have been the case if the Tories had run up the deficit but they didn’t so the public will understand the coalition is not at fault.I just hope no-one is hurt.
Just privatise the fire services. I am sure Mr Brans(t)on and Mr Pickle(s) will be able to come to some tasteful understanding ..
Stephanie Flanders ignores the OMS growth figures and the ipwards readjustment of the Britain credit rating by the global experts. She goes with the opinion of two people in a Bristol shop centre we think we are going into a double dip.
But as someone who’s already had a ‘double-dip’ with both Ed Balls and Ed Miliband, she struggles to get her mind off it.
Ha-good one!
Bob Crow should be arrested.
..detested, surely?
He is fucking arrested.
I hope he fucking arrests!!
and molested
These unions will burn in hell. Please ring 666.
Or fax on 661
Southwark emergency services switchboard says: Neine! Neine! Neine!
My hose will be working over time!
How embarassing. And you can bet Miliband will refuse to take decisive action.
One very simple order…..
“This is our best and final offer, strike on the 5th November and don’t bother coming back to work on the 6th”
Flush out the Dave Spart’s then fire them.
These bastards need to be set an example of.
oh tak, proszę!
?? send the buggers back !! Then sack the ‘firepersons’ and remember, remember, British jobs for British workers !!
So do these bastards who end a sentence with a preposition.
Don’t you mean .. end a sentence a preposition with?
Will the Fire Brigade go the same way as the Dockers, The Miners, the moter car industry, even the Hobbits (New Zeland) and all becuse the workers put their trust in the unions who would rather cut off their nose to spite their face.
Hmmmm….. methinks the union leaders are overpaid and under endowed with brains !!
Old Bilbo Baggins knew what was coming and booked passage to other shores from the Grey Havens with a couple of Elves, as he knowingly said to Gandalf “middle earth is fucked”.
Please don’t get a job in cinema.
Splash and Dash…. just a bunch of overpaid numpties who have been striking for absolutely zilch since the 1970′s !! Fighting fires went out of fashion with high buckle shoes !!
Er……what’s this got to do with anything you spastic?
Absolutely nothing, the troll is upset at having nothing to say of any relevance so he posts some shite that no one will bother watching.
that’s you that is
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Angela Eagle, am I the only person to think that this ‘woman’ is just an annoying automaton??
She’s a real woman? i had no idea. I thought she was just a CGI image to represent New Labour.
Both the Eagle twins are from the PPE course at Oxford University c 1980-83.
Is she any relation to Eddy the Eagle?
I have reliable information she was reared solely on boiled hamster. This why she looks like one ,sounds like one and has the same IQ as one. Apparently she returns home each evening and runs inside a wheel for 3 hours.
True. She often escapes from her cage and munches on my rug for hours on end.
What role is Bob Crowe playing in these strikes?
Chief Shit-stirrer?
why is it that on sundays there are no trolls and on weekdays they’re all here?
what is your hourly rate from unite? a three year-old could post your shite.
wankers
£9.00 an hour plus all the cock we can manage.
We are happy to be complete retards for free, it’s part of our Marxist upbringing.
There is obviously a student leftie typo here, I guess surde should be turd
Amazing, the bully boy militants from the BBC have not joined the strike in sympathy. They will be running bullshit stories about heroes being given a bad deal. Pure guff! Unions cripple the economy.
A frisson of alarm at the beeb as they have realised it is “divali” on Nov 5th (sod the brits and bonfire night) – what’s this, inconveniencing our ethnic enrichments, wringing of hands, where to turn, what tack to take now – mopping of brows, – spin meeting convened for tonight to twist our way out of this one – we were cheerleading for the strike until just now……..
Divali: festival of light… not looking good, not looking good at all.
Just takes the B&P to do a torchlight procession and it’s burn baby burn.
Oh dear the unions in France have won a resounding victor !!not!lol
‘France’s Senate has given its final approval to a bill to raise the retirement age from 60 to 62, a reform that has sparked weeks of strikes and street protests.
The Senate approved the final text of the bill 177 to 151 this afternoon, marking its second-to-last hurdle in parliament.
The bill now goes before the lower house on Wednesday and is almost certain to pass there, too.
The finance minister earlier declared that the slowing protest movement has reached a ‘turning point’.’
Haha. A votre sante petite couchon
“couchon”? Qu’est-ce que c’est? Un vrai twat anglais.
Guido Fawkes wants to make sure the Firemen are on hand to put out his fire!!!! He is disgruntled because they might go on strike and be unavailable on the night : – his plan to blow up and burn down Parliament might succeed after all!!!!! and that would never do.
You couldn’t make it up
HAHAHA
Never mind BBC.. James O’Brien on LBC, someone more blindly loony lefty I have yet to hear on radio.
Someone working for the company providing cover during the strike called into his show claiming that some union guys followed their engine on a shout, trying to block it and cause an accident.
O’Brien did his best to make him sound a like a liar saying if it really happened there’d be a video clip from someone’s phone.. must listen in tomorrow to see if I can hear him eating his words.
Wouldn’t be the first time.
wiki
“O’Brien made national headlines in April 2009 when he was forced into a humiliating apology to the Footballer Frank Lampard live on air, during a his regular phone-in show, after making unfounded allegations about Lampard’s children…”
I like his show. Even if he is a lefty. Good debate on it. And its a choice of him or Victoria Dreayshire.
If the firemen are on strike, then no fires or fireworks can be lit anywhere in Britain. To do so would be a real Health and Safety hazard of unacceptable proportions.
When there was no Safety Elf, the country used to manage perfectly well running their own family fireworks and bonfires. Likewise, our sub-continental cousins seem to manage their Divali firework displays perfectly well with out let or hindrance from an overweening authority which is generally too PC to interfere.
Sod H&S, lets get on with being British.
You should see the figures for burns admissions, due to carelessly handled fireworks in the 60′s.
It was like the blitz, re-enacted every November.
Due more a quality control of the fireworks problem than anything else. Kim Boulton hadn’t cornered the market in those days.
Plus one used to be able to buy proper mortars only slightly less explosive than those on Salisbury Plain, all gone now… sigh.
Why would a London fire crew strike effect a fireworks display anywhere else but London?
Anyone having thoughts on the comparison between Crowe and our beloved Sir(returned in post) Arthur Scargill, please feel free to post
Bob Crowe is fatter. That’s about all I can think of.
Well do not expect me to cover for the strikers.
Brothers and Sisters!
Despite the governments feeble attempts to depict you as the enemy within, responsible for everything from the bankers raping of the economy, through to an unwillingness to accept cuts in order to keep the Cabinet’s inheritance secure, we see the real spirit of public sector heroes.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1323929/7-7-inquest-Tube-staff-forbidden-helping-injured-July-7-victims.html
Remember, remember the…. er..? Now where did I put the chip pan?
Has a Labour blog closed down or something,? I’ve never seen so many misplaced students here.
Someone has to provide care for Guido’s piss sodden,right wing old croakers, dribbling over their fading photo of Thatcher.
A bit like the way you dribble your cock over the laminated photo of Bonkers Brown you keep under your pillow.
It’s been fun Trev, did you read the previous thread?
Clearly joined this thread a little late, and sadly I think he’s gone now, but fourth formers on half term probably need to be tucked up in bed by mummy before the watershed. Quite the most boring poster on any blog I have read for a long time. Not just the pathetic drivel he came out with, but the endless repetition of the same old shite over and over again. What a pathetic twat.
I had a very good teacher, m’clod.
You.
Bob Crowe the modern day scargill hellbent on confrontation regardless…nothing changes just the figureheads.
The problem being, is that wavey Dave ain’t no Mrs T.
He doesn’t have to be, she fought and won all his battles for him 30 years ago.
NB: Notice Labour didn’t repeal a single one of her union bashing measure in 13 years.
Is it just me, or is the script leaning to the right?
yeah this blogs leaning to the right alright
Bob Crow a go nyam your supper soon, boy
Bob Crow a go lead the children astray
Bob Crow a go meet the retribution
Justice has finally find its way
A fellow Marked For Death fan. Maximum respect.
‘Hard to kill’ was better.
Under Siege was a class act.
His best film, shame he’s gone a bit fatty twatty – still ‘Steven Seagal Lawman’ on Sky is a fucking hoot!
Anyone got some good Gordon Brown jokes? Bill Quango, you always have a good one. Your Ben 10 mobile phone with action sounds gag was inspired.
This got modded the other day.
I’ll try it again.
Gordon Brown quits as Labour leader after the election.
As he leaves london a reporter says..
“What are you going to do now Gordon?”
He replies that he’d like to take a little time out. Travel the country a bit. He says he’d like to spend some time talking with the Engerlish people who voted for him.
“And what will you do for the rest of the afternoon?”
What did the Elephant Man say when he met Gordon Brown?
“My self-esteem just went up”.
Yeah, have a belly laugh about this, I’m still getting my pay check despite screwing the English and the British economy, Parliament?, cant be bothered to turn up any more because you are all bigots, laugh!… I thought I would never start.
Brown screwed up the economy?
But we have had growth for the last two months – 1.2% and 0.8% this month which was thanks to the Labour party’s fiscal stimulus package which Osborne has just cut.
Those growth figures can’t be due to Tory policy as Tory policy has not been implemented.
Claiming credit for other people’s successes is not cool.
It is completely predictable that the Government would be forced to do everything in its power to prevent a fireman’s strike on November 5th.
It was a deliberate provocation on the part of the Unions.
The Unions are determined to overthrow an election result they do not agree with; to overthrow a Government with majority support.
Ed Miliband is a puppet in the hands of the Unions; he is incapable of exercising control over them or his party.
If anybody has any alternative suggestions as to what is behind the Unions actions, it would be nice to know.
I thought at the time of the election that Labour would do everything it could to stay in power, regardless of law, morality, or the election result, and it looks as if I was right.
“Ed Miliband is a puppet in the hands of the Unions;”
God, that must be hard to bear.
Must have a word with the boy Cameron about it.
Correct.
Shoot the fuckers.
Hire those who want and can do.
Problem soved
Most of the time they’re not on duty anyhow. They’re either asleep or doing their second jobs.
Or on Ferrari Track Days, exercising their other red engines
And to think I used to reckon Alf Garnett represented a crazy right wing view.
The only thing Alf should have mentioned was that Jack Jones, leader of the the all powerful Transport and General Workers Union was in the pay of the Russian KGB. No wonder jolly Jack and his communist mate Hugh Scanlon leader of the Engineering Union wrecked the bloody country, that’s what they were paid to do.
How naive, we actually thought they were protecting workers’ rights.
So no surprise to see lefty loonies supporting it all again. They’ll never reform because it’s got bugger all to do with supporting the poor and vulnerable, the lefties are the ones on the make, as we can see from the bleating of the new Pravda.
ffs its all gone italic again, don’t go to specsavers, I asked for a welsh buy one get one free spare pair.
A web designer walks into a bar, and the barman says “why the long typeface”
I think Fawkes web designer has still got webbed feet.
London’s burning, London’s burning.
Fetch the engines, fetch the engines.
Fire fire, Fire Fire!
Pour on water, pour on water.
London’s burning, London’s burning.
Fetch the engines, fetch the engines.
Fire fire, Fire Fire!
Pour on water, pour on water.
London’s burning, London’s burning.
Fetch the engines, fetch the engines.
Fire fire, Fire Fire!
Pour on water, pour on water.
Pour on water, pour on water.
Pour on water, pour on water.
You raise a good point, if there has have been a Fire Brigade during the Fire of London the damage caused could have been drastically reduced and the Fire Brigade Union’s regualtion would have meant as few people as possible would have died.
Surely it should be:-
London’s not burning, London’s not burning.
Don’t fetch engines, dont fetch engines.
No fire, No Fire!
Sack the strikers, sack the strikers
The deficit deniers have become growth deniers too:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/oct/26/uk-economy-growth-gdp
Why would Labour deny the growth their fiscal stimulus package created?
It is racist for firemento go on strike on Diwali. I will sue them for much compensation.
Wot’s Diwali?
A bit like bonfire night but without the bonfires, fireworks and jacket spuds.
I don’t accept these growth figures. They have published them simply to embarrass me. People are beginning to say I don’t know what I’m talking about. At this rate they won’t even invite me onto Newsnight.
Stop using the name of this footballing legend. You are a Hunt, Danny Blanchflower was a great.
Pass the hot milk please…
Went to see my ex girlfriend today. One thing led to another and before I knew it we were having full on passionate sex.
The police weren’t to pleased. I was only there to identify the body.
I think it would be good to see oib crowe’s property, investment and pensions portfolios made public.
Perhaps then his rmt members would begin to understand how their contributions are turning this worthless, uncaring, troughing man into a millionaire whilst he relishes forcing poverty upon them with strikes.
Do you support the FBU strike? Go to my new blog johngaltinlondon.blogspot.com to vote!
Thes growth figures show we are heading for a double dip recession.
Well get a new bra dear.
9/11-NY firemen heroically risk and lose lives. 5/11-London firemen heroically piss on kiddie’s bonfires to keep second jobs fiddle
Firemen going on strike? Someone should smear their poles with grinding paste. That’ll teach ‘em.
According to This is London, 2000 of the 2500 london firefighters are happy to accept the deal offered . Apparently it’s just a few hundred militants with wrack their leader, and crowe egging them on, that are making trouble.
bobcrowe is a twit.
By the by , where are jackdromey and militwit? The labour opposition is almost as invisible these days as gordon.
There at Liebour HQ operating the remote control,pulling strings is so dated.
Right lads that’s it, down tools and fuck the job!
After me “Maggie Maggie Maggie!”
OUT OUT OUT!
Bloody hell, there’s trouble at mill!
Any of you see Chris Bryant on Daily Politics yesterday? He seems to be making a habit of having a strop lately. Granted, he didn’t get as hysterical as he did with Kay Burley but he does like to get into a huff when asked awkward questions.
Ignore the twerp most do.It can’t be easy for an authoritarian such as he to lose office….it must be bloody unbearable.Good.
Time of the month.
Any good?
I predict a riot!
You now predict from beyond the great graveyard in the sea?
FBU you all, you bunch of Tea Party Nutters.
One lump or two sir?
One religious nutter or two sir?
They are so childish they refuse to sit in the same engine as “Retained” firefighters
…..for which the Retained firefighters are probably eternally grateful.
second video from the strikes (streetside footage) here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DXAc_Fh6_E
Guido, much as I hate Bob Crow, turning up at another union’s picket in a show of lefty solidarity isn’t secondary action – it’s not industrial action of any sort. If Crow were to take the RMT out on strike as a gesture of solidarity, or order members to interfere with TFL’s relations with the London Fire Brigade, that would be secondary action.
So who were the violent pickets at the last london fire brigade strike who were not firemen, physically blocking fire engines going out on calls??!
bob crowe is fast becoming a modern day arthur scargill isnt he?
If he gets his way over another winter of discontent, he’ll find that he has terminally damaged the already scargill weakened unions , following in poor old arthur’s footsteps.
Crow managed a 12% pay rise taking his basic pay to around £94,000, which rises to a very generous £140,000 with other benefits.
That would pay for a few train drivers/fire-fighters.
Crow managed a 12% pay rise taking his basic pay to around £94,000,which rises
to a very generous £140,000 with other benefits.
That would pay for a few train drivers/fire-fighters.
Echo echo echo….
Secondary picketing might be illegal, but the last time I checked, protesting wasn’t.
Shouting and waving a flag might be pointless, but it’s not against the law if you’re doing it in your free time.
As far as I am concerned supporting fire fighters is vital – so if militant Bob Crowe, who I really don’t like is helping out – that’s okay in my book. Frankly our fire fighters keep us safe – when everyone is running out of the burning building they’re running in – saving lives whilst putting theirs on the line… politicians bail the first obstacle they find are paid more and never seem to put their necks on the line for anything other than more dough.
Oorah for the fire fighters.
Think you need to check those Rose coloured spectacles before the HSE come and get you,they stopped running into buildings which were are on fire years ago ,sadly they now have to do a HSE assesment before they think of going near a building which is on fire,you could also ask the survivors of the underground bombings what they think.
Quite simply, that’s bullshit. They do not have to carry out a HSE assessment, whatever that is. They may do an on the spot risk assessment or plan what they intend to do, but that takes minutes and is for their and any potential victims’ benefit. There is no point rushing in ‘blind’ to the various risks. It has always been that way. FFS even the SAS do the same when going into dangerous situations.
And at the tube bombings, the police ordered them to stay out of the tubes. Police, paramedics and LU staff were sufficient in the early stages since there were no, err, fires and there was the chance of secondary explosions.
Walk on, you fucking cretin.
Why is Red Ed gagging the Postie and promoting the Eagle?
I’ve sent Postie to re-take his maths CSE.
Those who oppose the strike should hang their heads in shame. Politicians want to sack 5,500 firefighters. Yes, you read that correctly – they want to sack FIVE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED BRAVE FIREFIGHTERS. We must support these brave firefighters who protect us every day. To not do so is downright disgraceful.
You could also state that the government wants to employ 5,500 firefighters.
Maybe there’s hope for your sparklers:
http://www.680news.com/news/world/article/120267–london-firefighters-agree-to-talks-to-avert-strike-on-bonfire-night
OOOOOOHHH…. aaaaaaaaahhhhhh…
The engineers who produced that dwarfish cyborg codenamed Angela Eagle need to go for an upgrade. For fuck sake surely you could produce one which looks more human and doesn’t sound like a rusty fart.
She was a scream on yesterday’s DP Show though and kept calling “Brillo” “Neil” until an exasperated “Brillo” said “The name’s Andrew …get it right ! “to which Ms Eagle said “Er yes right Mr Neill,Mr ANDREW Neill then !!”. Her arguments weren’t much better either.Bloody hilarious and well worth watching on i-player.She’s at the start or thereabouts
A few years back I was involved in a project to create a joint emergency service control room for polcie / fire and ambulance.
It was a nightmare
Highest skilled oepratoprs and lowest paid
A few years ago i was involved in a project to look at creating a joint emergency service control room. it turned into a nightmare.
Highest skilled operators and lowest paid AMBULANCE
Medium Skills and Pay POLICE
Lowest Skills and Highest Pay FIRE SERVICE
Then there were the bed rooms. Yes, fire service operators on nights had a 1 on the control console / 1 in bed rule so they wanted us to provide bedrooms off the control room where they could relax before getting up to go and do their day jobs (outside the Fire Service natch). Which Is why I suspect there’s such a fuss about around 1 hour change on shift durations
Time for change. Privatisation anyone?
Privatisation the non cost effective cure for all ill’s,Ugh ,it would still be cheaper to let them have mini bars in the bedrooms than privatise the thing,did you ever try to find out how much it would cost to run using a private organisation against the cost of running with people wanting bedrooms.
Can’t be that difficult. Our local chief fireman farms a 500 acre farm single-handed and still manages to save the odd cat stuck up a tree.
So you were helping to set up a reagional center. Well done, that will be one of the
EURO – REAGIONAL centers. Well done traitor.
Now piss off back home to the EAST.
Surely as a libertarian Guido would support civil disobedience to assert the right of free association? And the right to withhold your labour (or do rights only exist for employers?)
Also, as amazing as it might be for people to believe, RMT branches and members make decisions like this, not Bob Crowe who is really just a mouth piece.
Can’t have facts getting in the way of rhetoric though can we?
IT’S THE THIN EDGE OF THE WEDGE! DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND CRIPES! THE COMMUNISTS ARE TAKING OVER! FAIR WAGES, DECENT TERMS OF EMPLOYMENT BLOODY HELL DORA AT THIS RATE AGENCY WORKERS WILL BE DEMANDING SICK PAY! WE MUST STOP THE COMMUNIST HORDE FROM TAKING OVER WE MUST RESIST THIS DEMAND BY THE FIRE BRIGADE THAT THEIR CONTRACTS BE HONOURED!
WE MUST STAND FIRM AGAINST THE COMMUNISTS!
This is not secondary picketing which is where people picket locations that are not directly connected to the issue of protest.
It is not mass-picketing either (sadly illegal since the general strike – gotta protect the vested interests against uppity workers) since they are not seeking to get as many people to the picket as possible.
All that is happening is some RMT members are showing solidarity with their fellow workers.
Idiot! “fellow workers?” They do totaly different jobs. FFS.
Bollocks. It is secondary picketing.
Politicians?
They’re so last century, man!
Right now, Ayesha’s helping me write some great jokes for PMQs tomorrow. Did you like my Hush Puppies joke last week? Wasn’t it hilarious? Ayesha was very proud of that one.
Isn’t she the dusky lawyer bint in the Archers?
Did Milliband senior have a previous career as mover and shaker No 5?
No wonder Hillary sees something in him we don’t.
I would like to say a few words, as a survivor of the Silver and Bronze age Great Hacker Wars and one of the many authors on modern trolling today.
I would like to point out that the left wing and right wing are merely pawns in a grander scheme and while you think you are using trolling to your advantage you are merely serving a means to an already pre-ordained end.
Trolling is bigger than your ideologies my little puppets, just keep that in the back of your mind as you are slowly played with.
But what else are we to do?
Is ours just the last gasp of resistance before totalitarianism crushes free mindless opinion?
TAT I really think you need to see a physciatrist you are really a very sick person,you think people care about the crap you write and don’t see the signature in your crap writings ,but do keep it up as you make Guido money with the more hits he has,love and kisses from one who doesn’t give a rats ar%e.
Have a nice warm hot chocolate and get yourself to bed grandad.
You know it upsets granma when you stomp around the house ranting all night long.
Back in August there was a YouGov poll showing that 30% of people thought that Dr David Kelly was murdered. Following the publication of the post-mortem this week we asked if people thought it was right to release the post-mortem report (58% did) and repeated the same question as we asked in August on how people thought David Kelly died. The proportion of people thinking he was murdered has halved to 14%, the proportion thinking he committed suicide has gone from 32% to 52%. Just over a third said don’t know.
Anthony Wells
You can most surely count myself in the 14%.
“The Lady hath protested to much,” on this and many other cases recently.
What surprises me is that there still remains so many who persist in trusting anything that comes from the establishment when all evidence available conclusively proves over a very long time indeed, that the Establishment can not be trusted with anything especially anything regarding something so rare and precious as THE TRUTH. Even more especially when it is the establishment itself that is the prime suspect in the case.
Why, if 30% did not trust the establishment before, would over half of them choose to trust them now?
Why do so many trust public or otherwise enquiries or post-mortems?
Do they do so, because of their own personal experience of the way the world has ALWAYS worked?
Or do they simply do so because it makes them feel better to believe that the world they inhabit is somehow governed by some kind of divinely franchised morality, without the slightest evidence to back up such a vastly ignorant assertion?
Good to see that at least 14% of the people still trust their gut instinct, common sense and personal experience over their own governing class.
Having given the above a little further consideration, maybe I am being unfair?
For it would seem that there still remains 47-48% of those asked that either believe Dr Kelly was murdered or do not know for sure. Which is actually quite astounding given the assurances that the combined efforts of the entire establishment have now made.
Bob Crowe is a Marxist Trator who is trying to collapse the system – I have come back to warn mankind that unless you string this bastard up ………….well I cannot tell you too much……..time paradox and all that…………Just trust me and string the fukker up!
And here is another Fukker that needs stringing up – Van Rompuy is EVIL
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1324053/EU-makes-fresh-grab-control-budgets.html
Er, just to clarify, is that a Marxist Traitor or a Marxist tractor. We really need to know these things so we can decide whether to hang him or change his tyres..
‘i’ take your point
Bob Castro is Scargill without either the charm or the comb over
Duncan Barkes, a libertarian presenter on Talksport, is discussing that article by Tristram Hunt which said the coalition will bring a return of Victorian workhouses. Barkes has mentioned in the past that he regularly reads this site. The Guidoisation of politics continues! Barkes is laying into Hunt and inviting listeners to call in.
How is this for a conspiracy?
Trades Union secretly backed by KGB agents working within The Soviet Union, which is secretly backed by extremely rich members of the British establishment through the international banking, oil, gold and diamond industries, then covertly orders/encourages said Trades Union to strike.
The strike results in the then clusters of privately owned and controlled competing companies to pay slightly to much to far too many workers over a protracted period of time. This results in the entire industry becoming inefficient and so terminally unprofitable.
This results in the industry being unable to attract private investment and so it becomes ever more inefficient and so a general backwards looking mess.
The Labour Party also backed by elements within The Soviet Union and The very richest and most powerful members of the British establishment then argue that this entire industry must be nationalized at great cost to the public who will be required to pay for the investment needed to safeguard the industry, and jobs. This creates an enormous non competing centrally run MONOPOLY.
A Labour government then borrows the money from these extremely rich members of The British establishment at interest to pay for it all. The debt being underwritten by the hard working British tax payer.
Things carry on for a while but the industry is still basically a load of strike ridden bollocks, costs ever more every year while remaining needlessly inefficient mainly because of a perfectly useless old-boy network management, corrupt civil servants and the continued overmanning caused by repeated Trades Union activity.
The country goes virtually, or indeed actually bankrupt, paying for it all, as the debt with interest forever mounts up.
Then Thatcher turns up and sells it all off in a fire sale for pennies in the pound to the self same extremely rich elements within the British establishment via an entirely new concept known as privatization.
Thus.
The proverbial THEY end up owning EVERYTHING, while we end up paying for it for the rest of our lives several times over.
You think this is just a conspiracy theory? Then think again suckers. You may be very stupid indeed, however the people who own the central banks are anything but, as well as very patient.
Therefore don’t be surprised if one day in the not so distant future our Fire prevention services are also sold off to the lowest and most corrupt buyer, financially backed and therefore controlled by said extremely rich elements within the British/International banking system.
funny how the unions are not allowed to get political but this fascist government can politicise its own department (DWP) for its own purposes….funny that
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/oct/26/incapacity-benefit-claimants-work-dwp
blind faith in your government will get you killed
Yes we found that out under the last lot who also by the way brought in the private sector to harass and push people off claiming so what’s new ?.
Ah got it this time the grundion/beebles don’t like it! where as last time they kept quiet ! .
THis is not new. South Yorkshire FRA wanted to introduce 15/9 shifts in October 2009.They threatened to sack anyone not taking the new terms. Strikes followed. I don’t recall lefty outrage at the time or other Unions rushing to jump on the bandwagon. A deal was finally done for 13/11 shifts in February 2010.
My questions are:
Why the fuck don’t FRAs talk to each other?
Why don’t the Union suggest this compromise? That would put the FRA and the government in a hole and make them seem to be the unreasonable parties. This would attract some public sympathy.
Striking,especially enlisting the ‘support’ of Bob Crow will have the opposite effect.
This has now been hijacked by both sides and turned into a political issue. No chance of a common sense solution, or a reasoned discussion judging by the rabid comments appearing on Guido’s blog.
Winter of Discontent 2 anyone?
Secondary Picketing:-
Picketing at other than the employer’s place of business.
The RMT aren’t on strike, the FBU are.
While she was “flying” down the road yesterday (30 miles over the limit), a woman passed over a bridge only to find a cop with a radar gun on the other side lying in wait.
The cop pulled her over, walked up to the car, and with that classic patronising smirk we all know and love, asked, “What’s your hurry?”
To which she replied, “I’m late for work.”
“Oh yeah,” said the cop, “what do you do?”
“I’m a rectum stretcher,” she responded.
The cop stammered, “A what? A rectum stretcher? And just what does a rectum stretcher do?”
“Well,” she said, “I start by inserting one finger, then I work my way up to two fingers, then three, then four, then with my whole hand in. I work from side to side until I can get both hands in, and then I slowly but surely stretch, until it’s about 6 feet wide.”
“And just what the hell do you do with a 6 foot asshole?” he asked.
“You give him a radar gun and park him behind a bridge”
Meanwhile cosily tucked up in Westminster the usual suspects are still heads down in the trough while the sheep and chickens fight among themselves over the swill…
C’mon Cameron you big f***ing woman. Grow a spine, stand up to them and say “We are not going to be shafted by a bunch of deranged union extortionists. Sod the lot of you!”.
I am glad that we switched Gordon onto the plastic beakers
When they arn’t rescuing cats from trees or rolling round in washing machines this is what they get up to !
where’s Guido? I hope his house hasn’t caught fire?
Yesterday i made a trip to the doctors, i walked in and he said “So whats the problem then?”
“You have to promise me that you wont laugh?” I asked him.
“I have been a medical doctor for over 20 years and have never once laughed at any of my patients.”
I took his word for it whipped down my trousers and he burst out laughing.
“Ahahahahah it looks like a AAA battery! Right sorry about that.. whats your problem?”
I replied,” Its swollen.”
http://cyberboris.wordpress.com/2010/10/26/support-for-firemen-goes-up-in-smoke/
Appealing pic. of Bob Crow you have chosen there, LOL
This move to strike on Bonfire Night is stupid, and is wrecking their support.
Definitely the kind face of a Ghandi or Mother Theresa.
Actually, it’s more like a Reggie Kray after someone has called mother a hooker.
Fuck it , I am gooing to burn some Korans !
Tis funny that the BBC have been pluging the French strikes as well .
There is little doubt the FBU are pulling a flanker to protect overtime scams and the like but at least now and then they have a proper job to do, such as putting the odd fire out.
This particular spat should not detract from the fact that the coalition’s supposedly draconian cuts are anything but. Legions of overpaid pen-pushing, empire-building, total waste of space no marks are still in place within the public sector at our expense and will remain so for the foreseeable future. Even the commie scumbags at the BBC got off lightly. Where’s the fucking beef?
Has Labour shut down Guido’s operations? He’s never usually this late with a new story. McBride, what have you been upto?
Late night for Fawkes – new thread for PMQ’s.
Are they back from conference then ?
Shit they are , Sorry bl,onde moment .
Ages ago – i’m making the assumption Fawkes had a late night due to his twitter feed reading that at ‘going home’ time yesterday, the Guy News team were mincing to gay house instead of marching to trance – shocking!
Now they’re prolly paying for it, with amyl headaches…….lol.
Arabs are fat and stink.
Hmmmn. Didn’t the number of deaths through fire actually fall during the last national fire fighters strike? Most fires are small and are extinguished without the help of the fire service. If bonfire night passes without serious incident without the fire service, one might ask whether we need a fire service at all.
Completely O/T. I see slotgob is now £98.00 richer. FFS what’s the woman like?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/tony-blair/8089034/Silvio-Berlusconi-gift-to-Blair-sold-for-98-on-eBay-by-Cherie.html
Brothers and sisters and transgender-siblings.
Fascist scab bastard islamophobic stand-in firemen aren’t as good as the brave socialists fighting the cuts and the evil tories and thatcher n’ shit.
http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art.php?id=22874
This report is 100 per cent true because it wasn’t written by the Daily Mail who supported Hitler once you know.
No platform for EDL BNP nazi firemen who are actually getting paid by Nick Griffin to go around setting fire to asylum seekers. That’s true cos wikileaks said so.
I saw the people from the picket line follow one of the provate fire engines and park there cars on the hoses so they couldnt get water to a flat on fire!!!!!!! Fucking wankers, ive lost all respect for them now, if you dont want to do your jobs, there are plenty of others that would love to do it. Now fuck off back to work. And if i see any of them from the union on my travels home they best not be holding me up in the middle of the road as i will be putting the range into 4 wheel drive and getting through em regardless lol