October 11th, 2010

Khan’s Terror Link Confusion

If you’ve never heard of Babar Ahmad a quick glance at why he is being detained while awaiting extradition to the US gives you a pretty good idea about the sort of man the Americans think he is:

“BABAR AHMAD, a resident of the United Kingdom, provided, and conspired to provide, material support and resources to persons engaged in acts of terrorism in Afghanistan, Chechnya and elsewhere. Specifically, AHMAD provided, through the creation and use of various internet websites, email communication, and other means, expert advice and assistance, communications equipment, military items, currency, monetary instruments, financial services and personnel designed to recruit and assist the Chechen Mujahideen and the Taliban, and raise funds for violent jihad in Afghanistan, Chechnya and other places.”

Ahmad came to prominence when it was revealed his meetings with his old friend Sadiq Khan were bugged by the spooks. The first time the new Shadow Justice Secretary went to visit Ahmad was as a friend in 2004 and he went again in 2005 “as his MP”. As one fellow MP commented at the time “I’ve never gone to visit a constituent in prison for whatever reason, ever.”

Around the same time the story about Khan’s relationship with Ahmad broke in 2008, a page mysteriously disappeared from Khan’s website. A cached version of what he wrote in June 2006 is still available though. Crucially it stated “I have known Babar Ahmad for over fifteen years. We both grew up in Tooting.” Given Khan was 36 at the time it puts him meeting Ahmad in his early twenties. But that isn’t what he told the House…

Khan’s links to Ahmad  go far beyond the professional and his campaign to have Ahmad freed went beyond his role as his local MP. On the 12th July 2006 a month after writing on his website that he had known Ahmad for 15 years, Khan told a House of Commons debate on the UK-US extradition treaty “Babar Ahmad is of a similar age to me and, like me, he was born and raised in Tooting. I have known him on and off for the past 12 or 13 years.” That would have him meeting Ahmad in his mid twenties…

Fast forward to 2008 and the bugging story breaks. Khan is under fire and the Prime Minister’s Official Spokesman is put in an awkward spot where he quite clearly does not defend him. But it was the added detail that Guido finds most interesting:

“Asked if the Prime Minister was happy that a Minister of the Crown had close ties, all be it professional, with people connected to the 9/11 attacks and organisations that some believed should be banned, the PMS replied that Mr Khan was a Whip, and therefore part of the Government. In this case he was acting as a constituency MP in relation to, as we understood it, somebody he had known since childhood.”

“Since childhood” is a new one, a direct contradiction of what Khan had said previously and something that is seconded by someone who might just know the truth – Sara Ahmad, Babar’s little sister who said in 2008 “Sadiq Khan has been a friend of Babar’s since they were boys and a wonderful supporter since his arrest.” Another direct contradiction to what Khan told the House. What is it about his relationship with Babar Ahmad that make him so sketchy with the details, resulting in three different versions of events.   How long has Sadiq Khan known Babar Ahmad? Did Sadiq lie on his website, to the House, or was it to the former Prime Minister?  More importantly, why?


235 Comments

  1. 1
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    OMG i thought we got rid of the terrorists in parliment !

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    • 8
      Anonymous says:

      Ed you dopey twat, why give this dirt bag such a high profile job? It’s all gonna end in tears, we’re gonna nail the SOB.

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        Conservative Chairman Sayeeda Warsi says that the media are "anti-Islamic" says:

        She is surprisingly frank and forthright about the rise of Islamophobia in Britain. Citing the conservative commentator and columnist Peter Oborne, who has written extensively about the demonisation of M*slim communities, she tells me that “when Peter says that anti-Islamic sentiment is the last socially acceptable form of bigotry in Britain today, that’s absolutely true”. She adds: “If you have a pop at the British M*slim community in the media, first of all it will sell a few papers; second, it doesn’t really matter; and third, it’s fair game.

        “If you go back historically — [and] I was looking at some Evening Standard headlines, where there were things written about the British J*wish community less than 100 years ago — they have kind of replaced one with the other.”

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        • 104

          talking of anti Islamic good to know our thin blue line would never do anything racist

          http://londonmuslims.blogspot.com/2009/11/police-who-assaulted-babar-ahmad.html

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          • Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

            Better than blowing up some trains , planes and people eh ?

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          • Brazilians look a bit mooslim don't they? shoot him in the head just to be safe says:

            they must only use tazers for the retarded criminals like moaty

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          • uh oh says:

            Would they be tasers not approved for use?

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          • Khan - the Al Queda Manchurian Candidate says:

            Khan will be able to stop his childhood friend getting extradited to the US for Terrorism charges if he gets into government. Wonder what our allies in the US think of potential government Ministers having such links. Maybe they got radicalised at the same time in Tooting…

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          • Cheese Lover says:

            Typical Muslim tactic:

            When caught bang to rights, when someone insults a plainly guilty member of their faith, what do they do, what does the good book tell them to do?

            “Never mind that, what about what HE (Could be anyone, just as long as he isn’t Muslim) did….”

            I recommend everyone watch a film entitled “Islam: What the west needs to know”, and watch every single one of LM’s defensive actions laid bare before your very eyes.

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          Mr Ned says:

          Anti Islamic bigotry is the only acceptable bigotry in the UK?

          I know Catholics who feel that the entire establishment (especially the BBC) are engaged in a bigoted anti-catholic campaign.

          I know Israelis who feel that they are singled out by the BBC as being terrorists.

          It seems that religion itself is still a target which bigots can attack with impunity, often with the complicit help of those on the left, who should know better, but whose own personal prejudices prevent them from noticing their own hypocrisy. The BBC is never shy of giving these left wing bigots a platform from which to spread their outrage.

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          • Red Dave says:

            well Dave did promote Warsi rather quick

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          • Quis separabit? says:

            I know Catholics who feel that the entire establishment (especially the BBC) are engaged in a bigoted anti-catholic campaign.

            Catholics are the establishment now – and if they could stop their whining self-pity for five minutes they would see that. They might also realise how much it irks the 90% of people who aren’t Catholic (and the 95% of people who aren’t practising Catholics) to see the agenda for this nation hijacked by a band of religious lunatics whose major contribution to British culture over the past four centuries has been one terroristic assault on democracy after another.

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          • Handycock says:

            What about me? I am being persecuted through no fault of my own, just like the religions mentioned above. There is nothing wrong with MP’s giving extra curricular tuition to 14 year old girls and entertaining mentally challenged ladies in the House of Commons. It is an MP’s duty to do so.
            Innit?

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          • Anonymous says:

            Criticism of islam, be it the religion itself, its followers or the extremists who kill using it as justification is NOT “the last socially acceptable form of bigotry in Britain today”.

            Why do sections of the media (not excluding the state broadcasters and public services) seek to obscure religious motivations for some crimes? Or to be precise, some peoples’ religious motivations for crimes? Why do comics on Ra.dio4 routinely accuse the Po.pe of everything from na-zi war crimes to pe.ophilia, but won’t touch religions whose followers might bite back?

            Rowan Atkinson was right – there should be no penalties for expressing opinions about religion – not least because if open debate is closed down then fora like this website are used instead.

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          • Cheese Lover says:

            The Tooting popular front will NOT be happy.

            Power to the people!

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          Kriss Donald says:

          Shouldn’t Warsi be more concerned about the sickening racism and Kaffir-phobia that pours forth from her own ‘community’ before lecturing the rest of us.

          The same goes for Diane Abbott, Trevor Philips and all the other professional ethnics.

          Put your own houses in order.

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    • 18
      Popeye says:

      Hang the b’stard! We can have a trial later.

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      • 24
        Why is this man in a British Political Party? Why is he in Britain at all? says:

        Just hang him and forget the trial, it’s only a waste of money.

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        • 169
          P. Doff says:

          In some Arab countries don’t the locals cut the cock off a Christian offender, shove it in his mouth and then chuck him off a rooftop into the street below (I suppose the final cock sucking thing gags his screams). Seems slightly rough justice… but in these days of equality surely what’s good for us is good for them!

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        • 224
          Mike Litorus says:

          It’s the LieBore way after all…

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    • 21
      george says:

      “I have known Babar Ahmad for over fifteen years. We both grew up in Tooting.” Given Khan was 36 at the time it puts him meeting Ahmad in his early twenties.

      Makes him 20 or younger.

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    • 186
      Airlie Belvoir says:

      Babar is the elephant in the room…

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  2. 2
    Sadiq Cunt says:

    I put fatwa on your evil head!

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  3. 4
    Anonymous says:

    This guy is not fit to be anywhere near Government.
    He should be tried for terrorist activities.

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  4. 5
    Anonymous says:

    Goody, we’re on the trail of this crooked fucker.

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  5. 6
    Sadsick's days are numbered says:

    Good job, Guido. Keep at it. Hopefully Sadiq will be the first shadow cabinet tosser forced to resign. In the meantime, Ken will have a lot of fun.

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  6. 7
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Genral question , How the fuck do these people get selected to stand for parliment ?

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    • 9
      Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

      Sorry forgot add cock up or conspiricy?

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    • 13
      Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

      Take a walk down Tooting High Road – it will become very obvious

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    • 31
      13eastie says:

      Take a trip to Tooting and it will become obvious.

      Speaking of Tooting, it’s a lie when he claims to have been born and raised there. He was brought up in Earlsfied – much more convenient for Wandsworth prison where another of his criminal friends, disgraced copper Jamshid Ali Dizaei, is enjoying a lengthy stay.

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    • 65
      White Man's Van says:

      Importing of Labour voters and funnelling them in to the right places?

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      • 221
        Audemus Dicere says:

        I think you will find that Khan’s constituency is one of the 3 that Warsi referred to recently as having been decided by fraudulent postal votes (just look at the voting patterns in all the surroundig constituencies by way of comparison). Balls’s constituency is obviously one of the others. The third is most likely some delightful part of Birmingham.

        That story was predicted to be a “big one” that would run and run. Funny that there is nary a mention of it at AlJabeeba or elsewhere, isn’t it?

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    • 68
      Diane 'Eadbutt says:

      Tooting – nuff sed.

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        Bulging sack of postal votes says:

        I didnt relaise we had so many constituents and all voting for that lovey Mr Khan

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      • 204
        Toot tooter says:

        People of South Asian stock are relative newcomers to tooting where i grew up in the 1950s. It was mainly white but with a few West Indians who were overflowing a bit from Balham and Brixton. Thye Indiany lot came some time later and seem to have colonised the area quite successfully. Happily, of course, I no longer live anywhere near there (so I have to travel to get my halal paintbrushes).

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    • 234
      Archie says:

      Their “communities”!

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  7. 10
    Steve Miliband says:

    Are you implying that the Shadow Justice Secretary, Sadiq Khan MP is crooked?
    Surely some mistake?

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    • 62
      Tony says:

      Seems like a pretty straight kinda guy to me.

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    • 69
      White Man's Van says:

      A cork screw has nothing on him Steve.

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    • 208
      Handycock says:

      I am one of his biggest fans, especially if I can go on a sponsored trip to ……stan/desh and visit the schools and give moral guidance to the girls there. My biggest fan, George of the Akash restaurant will sponsor me.

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  8. 11
    Praguetory says:

    Remember when Sadiq Khan said he’d never met Charlie Whelan… I would say he’s got something to hide if it wasn’t clear that the man is a pathological liar.

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  9. 12
    The blood spattered teacher in No Pressure says:

    The Labour party is so infiltrated with terrorists it wouldn’t suprise me if Richard Curtis supported them!

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  10. 15
    Steve Miliband says:

    OT If Scientists are so brainy, why did they chose to demonstrate outside the Treasury on a weekend when no one is in?

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  11. 16
    We love being Champagne Socialists says:

    Just you wait till I bring in Sharia Law and make the BBC news at 10 female presenters wear full body cover with only their eyes showing.

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  12. 17
    The Estate of Babar The Elephant says:

    As legal representatives of the kids cartoon character Babar The Elephant, we resent this terrorist c u n t having the same name. We understand that stupid wankers in Craplakistan are protesting about the blasphemy of a cartoon elephant having the same name as a heroic Muslim terrorist. We’ve informed them that our character existed first and they should get an education instead of spending their days burning effigies like the backward mongs they are.

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    • 77
      Archer Karcher says:

      Er, you are supposed to celebrate diversity by prostrating yourself in front of the pisslamists, dont you know?

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  13. 22
    Khuntastic says:

    The only thing he’s confused about is whether to go for the slow jeehad or the fast jeehad. That, and how to line his pockets at the same time.

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  14. 25
    concrete pump says:

    He’s a fucking bullshitter, his ‘friends’ are bullshitters, his colleagues are bullshitters, his seniors are bullshitters and the Labour Party are bullshitters.

    You would have to go to Pamplona to see more bullshit, in fact, even if they tripled the number of bullls on the ‘bull run’, Sadiq Khan would still be able to generate more, just through breathing.

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    • 81
      A steaming pile of bullshit says:

      Excuse me, I find those remarks distasteful and offensive in the extreme.
      I shall be contacting Trevor Phillips on this and other comments made here forthwith!

      Good Day to you sir, and I shall see you in court!

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Didnt he buy a leather chair or something on expenses ?

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    • 152
      Anonymous says:

      Wasn’t that his smarmy cheating mate, Shady Malik, now presumed to be doing a refresher course in Pakistan.

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    Sir William Waad says:

    Sadiq Khan is a friend of somebody who’s innocent until proved guilty. He’s a bit vague about when he first met him. I don’t see those as reasons for sacking him. Fiddling his expenses, not once, not twice, but three times, now, that’s a sacking offence.

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    • 46
      sockpuppet #4 says:

      “a bit vague about when he first met him”

      Theres a few people who I could think of that I met once or twice (perhaps) as a teenager. Theres even a famous chap on tele (almost a B-lister!), who I must have sort-of-known, but can’t really ever remember having a conversation with.

      If you’re a kid with overlapping circles of friends, its easy to re-write history either way.

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    • 52
      the old Dufflebag says:

      agree Sir Waad but the writing on the wall was fairly clear when his erstwhile chummie Ali Diz was jugged and why this didn’t set the bells ringing in the labour hierarchy says it all about Ed and his merry band of mugs.

      I predicted 6 months lifespan as a minister before being shuffled off to paperclips and smoozing but the timescale dropping daily at the moment. Unfortunately like vazzie baby, the most experienced houdini in the tribe, he will probably brazen it out and survive if only because eddie baby knows the damage his outing would cause to his new generation joke.

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  17. 30
    We love being Champagne Socialists says:

    I was part of the last labour govenment that again bankrupted this country. I wnated to be honest this time

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  18. 32
    We love being Champagne Socialists says:

    My kids are at school at the moment being indoctrinated with left wing ideology by left wing teachers. Can any one help me?

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  19. 33
    Don't tell his Muslim constituents he made this video, they'll get very upset and explodey says:

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  20. 34
    Babars bestest friend says:

    Is it cos I’se Taliban?

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  21. 35
    Tea Bagger says:

    Allahu Akbar, I wonder how much fertilizer you can expense?

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    • 188
      Airlie Belvoir says:

      Good crack by some radio comic: “All our terrorists have been home-grown – not organic of course, because they do use fertiliser.”

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  22. 36
    PabloSantos says:

    I genuinely can’t understand this story and am losing more and more faith in Guido’s ‘journalism’. The number of times I’ve said I’ve known by best friend for 20 years when actually it’s closer to 30 as we lived next door to each other from the age of 6 months…

    This is a non story and I think this blog would be better named (these days anyway) Guido Fawkes’ Blog of plots, rumours and conspiracies to end the career of any politician Guido dislikes.

    How disappointing.

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    • 44
      Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

      No , I think the questions are as follows :

      1 : If BA was a friend since childhood did SK know he was a possible terrorist ?

      2 : If he did , Did SK inform the pigs

      3 : how much influenec has BA have over SK ?

      4 : if 3 then is SK a secruity risk with accses to classified docs ?

      5 : What does this say about Red Eds judgement ?

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      • 123
        PabloSantos says:

        1. Who thinks about terrorism as a child? What is the likelihood terrorist sympathiser BA would tell parliamentary hopeful SK his thoughts?

        2. Your use of language is offensive and quite ridiculous. Also this point is based on an assumption which I have discussed in point 1.

        3. How much influence? You make out like BA is some kind of mystic or Jedi. I’m sure SK is his own man capable of making his own decisions (I should probably point out here that I agree his judgement has, at times, been questionable).

        4. If? If BA has influence over SK is he a security risk? This is just laughable. He is a shadow secretary of state. Previously he was transport minister of state – what sort of classified documents do you think he could have shared with his terrorist ‘friends’? Defence, FCO perhaps… but transport? Shared with them the layout of the tube perhaps? Come on.

        5. This is the only point on which I actually agree with you. Ed Miliband knows that SK has had numerous expenses problems and is thought of as a slimy operator. However, our questioning of Ed’s judgement is merely academic – as we both know, the shadow cabinet is elected when Labour are in opposition. Ed had no choice but to give SK a job. The real judgement problem here is Phil Woolas being handed a shadow ministerial role in the Home Office shadow team considering Woolas is currently on trial for using his election leaflets to stir up racial tension. If the outcome of that case does not go in Woolas’ favour Ed Miliband’s judgement will be very much called into question. Remember Woolas’ appointment was wholly at Miliband’s discretion.

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        • 136
          13eastie says:

          Transport?

          Because the Jihadists would never think of attacking a transport system?

          (I like the way you mention the tube in particular).

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          • PabloSantos says:

            It seems to me they didn’t require the help of a transport minister to attack the tube. Any further comment would be superfluous.

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    • 47
      Sadiq Khan says:

      Your’e disappointed?

      Just think how I felt when they refused my claims.

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    • 49
      concrete pump says:

      Bye.

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    • 118
      Agent 99 says:

      Pablo

      Guido is not a journalist but I grant you, probably spends as much time in the pub as one…

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    • 119
      Jimmy says:

      You miss the point. This blog exists to expose ethnics, homosexuals and (with the help of Vicki Pollard MP) the disabled wherever they may lurk. It’s got nothing to do with terrorists. Guido has always found terrorists very very sexy.

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  23. 37
    Bub says:

    This obnoxious little individual needs to be removed from any or all posts that might give him information about anything. His advocacy of this man is far from professionally as a constituent. His fiddling his expenses is sickening and when he opens his mouth, well that’s the obnoxious part.

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  24. 39
    Champagne Socialists are back(did they ever go away) says:

    I love England. I love our multi cultural society. It means I get a heck of a lot more money and I can still live my life as if I was still in my own country.

    peace be upon you all

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    Muddled Thoughts says:

    So let me get this straight. Babar is connected to 9/11 and supporting other terrorist activities in Chechnya and Afghanistan. So Khan is guilty by association? His loyalty to his long term friend certainly raises eyebrows. I am suprised Khan did not just distance himself from this guy.
    Khan from what I can gather is not campaigning for his innocent, rather his buddy is given a fair trial in the UK. Very murkey.

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  26. 41
    Team America comes true says:

    So an explosion-happy American soldier killed Linda Norgrove by lobbing a hand grenade into her area. “America, fuck yeah!”

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    • 55
      Anonymous says:

      Ah a reply from a member of the 1st Battalion The Safe at Home Warriors.

      Get a life twat and ask why the fuck she was there having been warned of all of the dangers of Afghanistan and through her actions, putting the lives of brave soldiers at risk.

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      • 102
        PotKettle says:

        Are you in Afghanistan? Then shut the fuck up you stupid c*nt.

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        • 120
          Anonymous says:

          No not at the mo. Have just returned though and am down to go again in 18 months. Unless of course your reply was directed at Team America.

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          • I'm really a squaddie. honest! says:

            bullshit

            even the greenest squaddie knows that Afghanistan needs aid workers who make their job easier by helping the locals winning hearts and minds

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          • Anonymous says:

            Yeh, That Ferris wheel really won them over.

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          • Anonymous says:

            almost as much as that grenade won her over

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          • Mr Taliban says:

            We sure won her over when we raped her. She got into it after a while and starting grinding her hips and enjoying it.

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          • Hague Pride says:

            Your confusing her and the Taliban with Hague and his young boyfriend when they had a jolly time bumming in Afghansitan at the taxpayers expense

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      • 115
        uh oh says:

        Ah I love the reek of the Daily Mail / all papers stock phrase of “brave soldiers” in the afternoon.

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      War is not a computer game says:

      Not 100% certain yet but a probability.However the operation was extremely difficult and even the SAS make mistakes that cost hostage lives. So until there has been an inquiry I will not criticise any US forces involved and as another person has already said..it’s easy to sit in front of your X-Box killing insurgents and feeing hostages whilst criticising braver men than you ……..Of more importance…was the UK Government and Media misled for 48 hours into believing that it was a suicide bomber that killed Linda.If true that is extremely worrying and was it a cover-ip by design or default ?

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    • 125
      Agent 99 says:

      Team America

      You did miss one important point really. The people who went into rescue the lady tragic as it turned out on this occasion put their own lives on the line to do so.

      What did you do today?

      Honest question…

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      • 140
        god bless america...we suck it's cock says:

        And you missed one important point. It’s their job. And they’re supposed to be good at it.

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        • 176
          okjoe56 says:

          well………. picture the scene.. for one moment, just try to imagine before you mouth off

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          • they lied, stupid says:

            what scene? we know the americans have been lying about the incident already…try thinking a moment before you mouth off

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      • 174
        okjoe56 says:

        well said, Agent 99…….

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        • 193
          Mildred says:

          So someone got a little carried away and accidently blew up the hostage they were trying to rescue. Well its not the end of the world at least they had a bash at it even if the outcome was a little disappointing. Maybe they’ll treat it as a learning curve and do it better the next time. It least they prevented her from being killed by the Taliban.

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      • 189
        Anonymous says:

        Call me heartless but what stupid bint decides to go over to Afghanistan to try and “do some good”. She put herself and the soldiers in needless danger.

        Bring the troops home now!

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    BARBAR the exploding elephant says:

    I have known Saddick ever since he was a mere glint in the eye of the postal vote man
    How will you Kuffur unseat him?
    Inshalla englistan will soon be part of the calliphate
    The likes of your Chris Bryant and Mandelson will then be tossed off Big Ben (not “by” just OFF onto the flagstones)

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      Sir William Waad says:

      While I usually put in a good word for the Shariat it is fair to say that Is*am is the only extant religion that promises that, if you kill enough people, you will enjoy an eternity of sex and gluttony.

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      • 83
        jgm2 says:

        I believe Mo’med was a red-head which is why you see so many of the clowns of that ilk with comedy red dyed beards. It’s beginning to sound like he was actually a Viking who’d been tipped off a longboat into the Med. Probably for being such a violent fucker.

        It certainly explains all the bloodlust and their obsession with Valhalla.

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        • 110
          sockpuppet #4 says:

          prove it.

          Show us a picture.

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          • jgm2 says:

            He was obviously publicity shy or a sh1t artist himself because he didn’t want any pictures.

            Anyway, it is true because I say it is. In the same way as we’re expected to believe what Mo said.

            Also, it is true because I say it is, that Is*am is a load of bollocks. Invented by a man for men.

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          • sockpuppet #4 says:

            What is it with Deities?

            Always publicity shy.

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        Can't remember my moniker says:

        But like the Labour Party that they love, that promise will not be kept.

        Personally, I don’t give a fiqh.

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    Anonymous says:

    I look forward to hearing about this on the bbc.

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  29. 48
    We have ways of making you talk says:

    You are right. While you get the board I’ll fetch some water.

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  30. 50
    Champagne Socialists are back(did they ever go away) says:

    Can you tell me what I’m supposed to do now with all these postal and proxy vote forms that I have left over from the election? Do I just fill them in now ready for the next one?

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  31. 53
    The big D says:

    Well spotted Mr Fawkes. Amazing how Andrew Marr, scorner of all things blogging, has been unable to find any Labour malfeasance since the 1990s. Are philandering presenters excused the requirements of unbiased reporting?

    It is a good job blogs exist to shine light into the murky recesses of all political parties. No one else will do it for us.

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    • 191
      Legal Beagle says:

      Legal question: if, say, some hypothetical person (who may or may not be a journalist) takes out a hypothetical injunction to conceal – for the sake of argument – a child by a hypothetical fellow-journalist mistress, and then after years of being passed under the harrow by his harridan wife is told – to his great surprise – that the child is not actually his – does the injunction then cease to operate, as it was obtained on the basis of an incorrect supposition? Just wondering…

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  32. 54
    Champagne Socialists are back(did they ever go away) says:

    let’s all sing the Suzie quattro number

    Khan the Khan

    of we go then

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    • 147
      Star Trek - The wrath of Khan says:

      Now that is one girl I lusted after beyond belief.

      Many a happy tissue was spent on that lady

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      • 179
        Mike Hunt says:

        Too much info, but I am sure you are not alone in lusting after the divine Suzi Q.

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        • 227
          Cheese Lover says:

          My tissue abuse was conducted with the splendid Kate Bush in mind.

          Suzi Quatro?, pfffft, certainly not fit for my cock sock.

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    The Court of Public Opinion says:

    Interesting contrast with the 9th Christian Commandment:

    “Question:
    Are Muslims permitted to lie?

    Summary Answer:
    Muslim scholars teach that Muslims should generally be truthful to each other, unless the purpose of lying is to “smooth over differences.”

    There are two forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, taqiyya and kitman. These circumstances are typically those that advance the cause Islam – in some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them.

    The Qur’an:
    Qur’an (16:106) – Establishes that there are circumstances that can “compel” a Muslim to tell a lie.

    Qur’an (3:28) – This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to “guard themselves.”

    Qur’an (40:28) – A man is introduced as a believer, but one who must “hide his faith” among those who are not believers.”

    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/011-taqiyya.htm:

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      jgm2 says:

      I shouldn’t worry about the ninth commandment.

      It’s their disregard of the sixth (though shalt not kill) that kinda trumps their flamboyant approach to the ninth.

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    Champagne Socialists are back(did they ever go away) says:

    is this the guy who wrote Khanal Knowledge?

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  35. 61
    Big Ted says:

    socialism is a joke

    the only way socialism can even begin in a country is to appropriate the assets of the previous capitalist society, with the huge assumption that the capitalists who created those assets will continue to behave in a similar manner but creating wealth for the community instead of the individual.

    as a business owner I will be fucked if I will do more than my fair share in order that my wanker public sector neighbours can buy new cars and go on 4 holidays a year and boast of £300 family sunday lunches whilst I am working my ass off until 8pm each evening

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    • 71
      Champagne Socialists are back(did they ever go away) says:

      but this attitude does not leave any room for me to continue my champagne socialist lifestyle, how unfair are you!

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      jgm2 says:

      That point has already been reached Ted. When the government instigates 51% tax it is their way of telling you to quit work and stay at home.

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    • 139
      Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

      Fuckin expensive joke !

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      • 142
        Big Ted says:

        in an ironic sort of way I am now happier, healthier and better off now I don’t work so much, unfortunately it does not look like my tax input is being replaced by other “socialist’ workers

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    the old Dufflebag says:

    terrible news to hear that the aid worker was, according to the latest statement, apparently killed by the Americans in their attempt to rescue her.
    The very last thing they would have wanted obviously but given the nature of the Taliban’s totally ruthless modus operandi a grave risk at the outset.

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      In real llife not everything goes to plan says:

      Totally agree.Let’s hope the yanks didn’t cover it up on purpose and it was rather the fog of battle although there is a depressing litany of such cover ups involving american forces or a rush to big up their involvement with the media before checking the facts. At least Petreaus had the cjones to phone Cameron personally and not delegate itut it’s a doublt bitter pill for Linda’s parents,if true

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        Watchman says:

        The reason for the delay in the info was that they used those Filipino police personages who rescued all those (dead) hostages in the bus in Manila a month or two ago. Lots of practice at effing things up there too.

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    Champagne Socialists are back(did they ever go away) says:

    One of the things we love is, when an election is called and for up to 2 weeks after. we get tons of voters added to the electoral register. Simples.

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  38. 79
    Body Language says:

    Why all this digging around for evidence Guido?

    He looks guilty. End Of!

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      jgm2 says:

      You’re obviously channelling my mum. She could always tell the guilt or otherwise of folk who’d been convicted simply by looking at their photograph.

      I often thought the government wasted a great deal of money with trials and suchlike when all they needed to do was show my mum a picture and she could have saved ‘em a fortune.

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      • 164
        The Court of Public Opinion says:

        I find the NHS also waste a fortune on hip replacements needing all those tedious surgeons and operations. Based on the same evidence your mum shows, they should instead get this guy to just bam bam bam new ones in whenever needed: http://tinyurl.com/3a7v6oo

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      whta's that going over their heads???? says:

      excellent satire

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    Chronic says:

    This official looking document says they were friends from 12 – 13 yrs of age not for the past 12 – 13 yrs. Go to page 10.

    http://www.official-documents.gov.uk/document/cm73/7336/7336.pdf

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  40. 91

    He appears to have a penchant for Hoon’s tin of pantone too.

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  41. 94
    Anonymous says:

    I only have a knocker on my front door. Can I enter for the Nobel prize?

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  42. 100
    Fishcake says:

    Wonder what Tim Lovejoy’s thoughts are…

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  43. 101
    Steve Miliband says:

    Does H M Pris play for Brazil?

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  44. 103
    White Van Man says:

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  45. 107
    Rat's arse says:

    Saddick is an odious little shit who thinks he’s above the Law. He should be strung up along with his other cowardly ‘mates’. BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY. They wouldn’t dare give us a referendum of that would they?

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    Not Again!!!!!! says:

    So why did the Yanks first say it was one of Khan’s terrorist mates that had killed the aid worker? Now it turns out it was a Yank.

    Why do we never learn from the past? Yanks and rescue missions do not go together. Never have and never will.

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  47. 127
    Ed's Militant Party says:

    Eh. Not sure this type of militant is what we are after. Nevertheless he is left wing, so what’s the problem?

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  48. 146
    Greg Beales says:

    “Double Dip” here we come !!!!!

    Ain’t nothing George Osborne can do about it either

    More than a third of CFOs in the City believe the UK is heading for a double-dip recession according to a Deloitte survey.

    Confidence levels among finance chiefs has hit an 18-month low, declining for the third successive quarter in Deloitte’s CFO survey.

    “UK corporates entered 2010 with a cautious view on the sustainability of the recovery and have stuck to this view,” said Deloitte vice chairman and partner Margaret Ewing.

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    • 157
      Steve Miliband says:

      You posted this on a prevoius thread, it was dull and off topic then and it remains double dull and double off topic now.

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    • 162
      Sir William Waad says:

      You’ve done this one before under a different name, Mr AsroTurf®.

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      the old Dufflebag says:

      145………whilst the spending review on later this month will inevitably have a substantial effect on sentiment…this is the first serious period of recession in living memory that has had very low interest rates and containable inflation within the cycle and as such provided the coalition maintain a strong stance on dealing with the deficit question we should come through stronger and better prepared for the upturn.

      Corporates are cautious about the current climes because sales are not growing as much as they would wish but conversely they all take advantage of a cost cutting regime as it allows them to stem and tune their own cost bases whilst the public sector squeals and soaks up the flak.

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        Ted Bundy says:

        I fear it may still be early days. Inflation although still low by historic standards is steadily creeping up and worryingly the coalition is giving serious thought to further quantative easing. The very fact that this is being seriously considered shows how desperate the situation remains.

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  49. 149
    Windmills as important as Spitfires ? says:

    Tim Yeo thinks windmills are as important as Spitfires. …..

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/oct/10/environment-adviser-green-funding-cuts

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  50. 153
    Linda Norgrove. Add her to the list. Five more years of this idiocy to go. says:

    Be fair to the Yanks. It’s not as if they would fake a rescue or cover up the truth about killing one of their own troops.

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  51. 158
    SAD DICK CLINT says:

    I am one fodgy ducker.

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  52. 168
    Sir Will he shoot his Waad over the Yanks says:

    I like to watch big men with big guns marching in uniform. It gives me the horn.

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    ..Silicon Implant!! says:

    Ed’s not as stupid as he looks. This dodgy geezer was elected to the SC whether he liked it or not, so he goes and sticks him with the Justice portfolio. If he comes up smelling of roses, that’s fine – but he’ll be subject to a lot of scrutiny in that role. On the other hand, if there is something niffy in his past association with Babar Ahmed, he will have to resign the shadow cabinet entirely in due course, at the very least, thus ridding Ed of him entirely.

    It’s worth pointing out that the Americans have in the past happily waterboarded the **** out of British Citizens snatched from their beds in secret foreign prisons and then later realised are entirely innocent of anything very much. They’ve also got a habit of trying to extradite ‘terrorists’ from the UK for offences related to 9-11 when it is clear to everybody except the Yanks that the person concerned is as innocent as the driven snow. So do we really want our MPs saying to us ‘The Yanks say you are a terrorist, so we’d best pack you off to Gitmo in an orange jumpsuit for 5 years of cattleprods and simulated drowning just in case they are right, without asking any questions…’.

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      Chamberlain says:

      “later realised are entirely innocent of anything very much.”
      Trying to work out what that phrase means……..
      Your first paragraph makes some sense, though.

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      Ted Bundy says:

      The dodgy geyser as you call him was actually Red Ed’s campaign manager during the Labour leadership election. He may have been elected to the shadow cabinet but as Ed’s bosom pal he obviously expected and was rewarded with a top job.

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  54. 190
    US Spooks says:

    We are trying to nominate Peter Hain for an orange jumpsuit but our color charts don’t match that tan. Maybe he should be recruited to the Taniban.

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  55. 196
    sandra in accounts says:

    Freedom for Tooting.

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  56. 200
    BillyBob - Ooman Rights Legislation, just a load of bollocks!! says:

    Someone of that faith telling lies??? Who would have thought that !!

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    We Write History says:

    Funny how on Khan’s Wikipedia page loyal fans keep removing references to his Expenses claims!

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    Ordinary Bloke says:

    It’s not entirely these muslims’ fault. Their religion guarantees them eternal paradise, seventy-two virgins and a thick carpet if they kill unbelievers and jews. Most of them aren’t pious, devout or brave enough to do it. But thousands of primitives from the muslim ghettoes, in this country and around the world are, as we’ve seen for decades.

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  59. 215
    Kered Ybretsae says:

    Great stuff! Why three versions. Either they’ve known each other since they were kids….or later years. For some reason best known to the ‘porky pie-ers’. They won’t come clean.

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    Anonymous says:

    Varsi thinks (British) m*slims have replaced British J*wish community as the butt of bigotry. Perhaps, but I would believe it if a western nation were to elect a government committed to ridding them from europe.
    Which one might that be?

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  61. 232
    Graham Swift says:

    What is Sadiq Khan trying to hide ? Has he got links with Muslim extremists ? Security forces should investigate him . Some of his speeches on Youtube would suggest he is a radical .

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  62. 233
    Colonel Blimp. says:

    Keep plugging away at this big shit, Guido!

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You know where the animals are looking through the Farmhouse window?

My TV screen was that window at lunch-time today.

Be careful, the sudden self-congratulatory tone, the slightly pudgy outline of indulgence and you become exactly what you should despise.

The jolly face of the Quisling Cameron poses for your camera has mesmerised and deceived you, you who were once not so deceived.

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