October 8th, 2010

“Scud Stud” Fires Hilton’s Rocket

When the Big Society (B.S.) came up on Question Time last night it was greeted by the audience and the panel with an above average level of scepticism. However there was one surprising defender of the the B.S. dream. Step forward former BBC man in Baghdad, Rageh Omaar…

“One thing that David Cameron can’t be accused of in pursuit of this idea of a Big Society is inconsistency, you know, he said it before when he came to the leadership of the Conservative Party, right the way through the election... The idea of a Big Society although it hasn’t quite found it’s mojo yet in finding out what it actually mean, I think it does tap into an enormously important area in which politicians need to define a public role and the role that citizens can play in it.”

He went on to advocate British responses to international crisis as a good example and sung the praises of Help for Heroes before concluding that citizens need a sense of empowerment. The B.S. defined far more articulately than many a Tory MP….

However it wasn’t all good news for Dave from the “scud-stud”. He fired a rocket at Andy Coulson in no uncertain terms. Giving reference to Downing Street insiders and calling for the guilty spinner’s head on a plate he said:

“I think it’s a time bomb for David Cameron if nothing else, him and Andy Coulson have got to have a very very honest heart to heart chat about exactly what did go on because I know for a fact that the Channel Four dispatches program is going to be the first of many other investigations, it’s crossed the Atlantic, there’s been a huge amount of new evidence turned up in the New York Times of all places… I suspect David Cameron and his team around him are wondering how much people give a damn about this out in the country, that this is just a Westminster hot-house kind of story but I think it will come back to affect the reputation of the government and of David Cameron unless something is done about it soon.”

Interesting to note then that Rageh and Steve Hilton were sitting outside Bank restaurant in Birmingham having lunch on Tuesday afternoon during Tory Conference. What were they talking about in preparation for his appearance? Along with his dinner with tipped-Coulson-replacement Ian Birrell, a cynical man might suggest that Hilton was on manoeuvres against his governmental nemesis…


83 Comments

  1. 1
    Seal (labour voter) says:

    OW, OW, OW

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    • 15
      Quango says:

      Shouldn’t you be trying to sort out Coulson and pals Guido? After all you are a self proclaimed libertarian. Murdoch is still pulling lots of strings – you scared of him? The BBC are such a soft target. Come on – man up.

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    • 17
      McGroom says:

      Who was it who said

      “When you become part of the story it’s time to go”

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    • 26
      guidofawkes says:

      if you want to put your video in that slot you can pay for it.

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      • 42
        Committee for a Free Britain says:

        How much are you being paid by Murdoch and Dacre, De Liar?
        Still passing all your stories on to them like you got your Hague “exclusive” from them?

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    • 38
      Guido says:

      “What is the strategy?” Steve Hilton better communicate it to the rank and file in a way that inspires confidence. There is striking irony in his top down diktats about localism, decentralisation, transparency and the importance of feedback in a post-bureaucratic age.

      Mandelson fights for his strategy from the front, Hilton sends memos from the back room.

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      • 67

        Fuck this Shit. Here is what the ‘Big Society’ really means:

        Peons do the work – regulators and do-gooders get the credit.

        Boris ‘ends homelessness’. People still have to get up every day and be treated like shit by some knuckle dragging, over entitled, cider addicted nutter with a serious case of the attitudes. Bribing scum in supported housing with your money to behave and not bash each others faces in. Volunteering eh? Good for the soul they say….

        Ian ‘I read Henry George upside down’ Duncan Smith – ‘ends dependency’ by making your children the fucking slaves of the state. If they want to start a business? Fuck off. If Tory boy starts a business and wants to use them as unpaid fodder whilst they struggle on tax credit benefits less than the aforementioned benefit scum… that’s all good… at least they ain’t ‘sitting on arse watching j.kyle’ eh?

        Stick the whole fucking thing up your rancid hateful fucking pussies. You have been divided, conquered, and owned since day one.

        Now feel free to bicker pointlessly and throw accusations of Labour party membership at anyone you even slightly disagree with you traitors to the working classes.

        You make me sick.

        Grow up.

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    • 62
      Schrödinger's cat says:

      Which club do you use?

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      tit says:

      frankly who gives a flying fuck what raggy umpah thinks about anything…shame the yanks missed him in baggydaddy …they got almost everything else

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  2. 2
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Got to admit coulson has to much shit stuck to him , He has to go

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    • 8
      Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

      On the Big Society guff .

      Its bollocks , I want the state to leave me the fuck alone if i chose , I will provide for myself and my partner , The genuine sick should get help but someone earning 40k ? We need small goverment , Lower taxes and better prospects for buisness .

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      • 13
        The Enoromous Community says:

        There’s no such thing as ‘big society’, senior Tories tell Cameron

        Leader urged to scrap key policy idea as anxiety grips party

        A series of anxious shadow ministers have warned the Tory leadership in private that David Cameron’s central general election message – devolving power to create a “big society” – is crashing on the doorstep as candidates struggle to explain the idea to voters.

        A Tory source was even blunter. “The ‘big society’ is bollocks. It is boiled vegetables that have been cooked for three minutes too long. It tastes of nothing. What is it?”

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      • 29
        Mr Ned says:

        “I want the state to leave me the fuck alone if i chose , I will provide for myself and my partner”

        That is EXACTLY what the Big Society is all about!

        The Big society is a shit name for it, but it is one that lefties will be more comfortable with than, say, the grown up society, or the independent, self-sufficient society.

        The B.S. is all about how we get this nation from being overwhelmingly infantalised and child-like hanging onto the nanny-state’s apron strings, to being a grown up society, that still shows compassion and caring, but does NOT have the state controlling and dictating everything, and crucially, not paying for everything too.

        If the government just walked away and “got the fuck out of our lives”, then people like me and you will be fine. However, the majority of the people in this country would be fucked and they would drag US down with them.

        If you want to get the Government off your back and out of your pocket, then step up and play YOUR part in the big society, then tell the Government to get the hell out of the way and they will be glad to do so.

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        • 43
          Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

          We need to get back to hard work rewards , At the moment there is no incentive to work hard , I do it because is was drumed into me , But shows like Jeremy kyle etc highlight the underclass , A life trapped on benifits .

          I do accept that some are genuine , But i also know that there are thousends that could work . The stigma off a crimanl record is a problem , A employer would rather have a immigrant with no crim record that a white lad from here that has been in trouble .

          Reform is needed in the state but also from ourselves .

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          • Mr Ned says:

            Exactly right.

            The coalition has been absolutely incompetent at explaining what the big society actually is, but if WE do not make it work. Then WE ALL will have lost the best opportunity for getting the Government OFF OUR BACKS that we ever had!!!!

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        • 51
          Gigantic Citizenship says:

          Nobody is buying Neddy.

          Everyone knows it’s Public Relations horseshit from out of touch Policy wonk Hilton.

          When it fell flat on it’s arse on the doorsteps at the election that’s when it should have been dropped. You can’t change the publics mind on it now and you have to be pretty fucking stupid to even try.

          If you want a small state you say so.

          If you want people to run schools and hospitals you say so.

          You don’t mix them up in some ungodly hodge podge of public relations spin and wank about empowering citizens.

          We heard that fatuous twaddle from Blair for a decade.

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          • Engineer says:

            I’m not sure that it has fallen flat on it’s arse. Some of the media don’t like it because it’s an idea put forward by a Conservative politician.

            For anybody that is currently doing something voluntarily at the moment, it’s just a statement of a blindingly obvious truth. If people think something needs doing, it’s up to them to get on with doing it, and not to sit on their fat arses whinging that “the gummint orta…” and achieving nothing.

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          • Nice try says:

            Conservative Politicians didn’t like it and they said so.
            It’s Bullshit.

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        • 55
          Cardinal Kasper says:

          Mr Ned

          as ever you have nailed. No sensible person should be opposed to compassion and caring about our fellow humans. the problem with statist approaches is that they take our money and time and direct it towards their favourite client groups (not necessarily the most deserving)

          There is much in the big Society ideal to commend. If we could all act responsibly as citizens it can only be positive. Instead of relying on meals on wheels why dont unemployed people go ans cook a nice meal for lonely old age pensioners? I’m not being glib. we really could create a happier country if we all realised we should actively demonstrate compassion in action. I am not a lefty I just believe in civilisation!!

          peace and love

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        • 56
          The political class can kiss my arse says:

          They have already dragged us down with them. Feckers, parliamentarians, the establishment – all of them.

          This shit hole needs a deep clean. If that means the feckers get fucked more and turn to violence so what. It’s going to be a long hard road for everyone whatever happens. I will defend my property by any means available. This should be the norm not the exception.

          I’d sooner a shorter very sharp readjustment than a prolonged failed ideology driven one.

          Westminster are part of the problem, not the solution. Platitudes and sound bites won’t wash any more. They deserve to be on the sharp end of the readjustment. They don’t help anyone but themselves.

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        • 58
          Engineer says:

          Pretty much agree with that, Mr Ned. The state should do only what the state has to do, it shouldn’t be sticking it’s bureaucratic nose into every aspect of life. As for ordinary people – it’s our lives, our country, our neighbours and our local communities, and we should be taking responsibility for that. Many people already do. There are many charities, organisations, local events and so on run by volunteers, be it Meals on Wheels or National Trust properties. We are not starting from zero, there’s a solid foundation on which to build.

          Don’t think it’s sunk in with the cynics yet, but I think Cameron is just saying that if people think something needs doing, get on and do it. Don’t expect the state to do everything for you.

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        • 68
          CCHQ send out their drones to try and resell the Big Society pissflaps says:

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        • 72
          Schrödinger's cat says:

          Excellent, Mr Ned.

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    • 12
      QWERTY says:

      Gordon Brown was a shit and he hung around for years.

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      • 27
        Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

        But Coulson only hacked a few phones , Gordon fucked the whole country up .

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        • 44
          toxic sludge says:

          The Coalition urgently needs to sort out it’s press team. Regardless of the phone tapping allegations, Coulson etc are simply not up to the job.
          It requires a robust heavyweight operator who can consistently counteract the media’s constant negative coverage of Government policies.

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  3. 3
    B.S. = B.S. says:

    Amusing that this Big Society Bull Shit has the initials B.S.

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  4. 4
    Maximus says:

    The B.S .defined far more articulately than many a Tory MP….

    Guido’s being ironic, right?

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  5. 5
    DocRichard says:

    BS=BigSociety. Hmmm. Ambiguous.

    As a devout non-Tory, I hold nothing to hold against the Big Society. Trouble is, neither does Dave. More here http://bit.ly/diPFC9 and here: http://bit.ly/ch0Zrv

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  6. 6
    Fuck the monkey what about the Organ Grinder ? says:

    Brought to you by the Committee for a Free Britain.

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  7. 7
    Grumpy Old Man says:

    OK Guido, so far so good. Let us assume that any MSM “heavyweight” ( for want of a better term) would have a secret history similar to the one Coulson denies, Are you getting the goods on Hilton yet? Should any MSM professional be allowed anywhere near Party Politics?

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  8. 10
    Geezer says:

    Saw Red Ed, the Vulcan from Planet K Marx on ITV yesterday. He was utter rubbish.

    He tried to explain his newly declared opposition to the war in Iraq as not having been an MP or in the Cabinet at the time of Blair’s dreadful decision. But he wrote the last manifesto of the Labour Pains and he boasted he was a Labour member since aged 17 and SPaD since aged about 12.

    It wasn’t me guv & I wasn’t there officer is not good enough, Ed Boy. It’s lame and weak. We all see through you.

    Take responsibility for a government you were part of and stop pretending your party were not responsible for the devastation and pain you have caused.

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  9. 11
    Bernard Lewis says:

    Raggy Omar is just another dismantler of Western Civilisation. Stop giving the arrogant little creep attention.

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  10. 15
    Did Hilton call Coulson a Wanker? says:

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  11. 18
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Are the BBC trying to infultrait the Con goverment ????? For investigating purposes only of course

    How many ex BBC workers end up in the Labour party and how many end up in the ConDems ?

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    • 81
      Anonymous says:

      Well there’s Woolarse, Bradshaw, Bryant and a few others. Grayling’s the only Tory I can think of but I believe he used to be something of a LibDemmer at one time so doesn’t really count.

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  12. 21

    Michael Parkinson’s died. Yorkshire twat.

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  13. 22
    Damien McBride says:

    I’m available.

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  14. 24
    TOO TUN CAR MOON says:

    Teacher who spoke at Tory conference ‘suspended’ by Head by National Socialist Brownshirts

    God help us

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    • 79
      Agapantha Trotskee-Manlove says:

      Who can we trust with our children? Certainly not some Slideshow Bob character who abandons her yoothful charges to appear at the Conservo-Nazi party conference and shaking hands with Back@Basics monster Micheal Gove to a standing ovation.

      Watch her shameful performance an hour and five minutes into this vile and pornographic pantomime. In the name of all that is good and decent, do not extract this filth and post it onto YouTube.

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  15. 25
    Anonymous says:

    Warsai explained big society well. Its about all getting together and cleaning the car park for a mosque, this was the only example she came with.

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  16. 28
    Deep Who says:

    I’m currently in yankee land for a few years and, while they don’t call it Big Society, they are close to what Cameron wants. People with money/time/skills use them to help others – granted, because the state sure as shit doesn’t. At first glance this Big Society seems vacuous and he needs to explain it better, but anything that’s about rolling back the state gets a thumbs up from me.

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    • 39
      you get caught lying to Parliament and you're fucked says:

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      • 45
        Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

        No , Blair and Brown and every Labour minister got away with it for 13 fuckin years

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    • 49
      Mr Ned says:

      Cameron (and ALL of us) face a big problem with it though.

      Whilst the Big Society is actually the Government getting the fuck off our backs and out of our pockets, the infantalised fuckwits who support labour start wetting their knickers in fear that they will not be able to survive if the Government were to stop pouring money into them and telling them what to do, how to do it and what to think about it.

      So how do we persuade those people heavily addicted to the state’s largesse and waste, to become self-sufficient and stop being a burden on the rest of us?

      Cameron has to dress up solid and moral right wing aims and goals in left wing language to get “buy-in.”

      Blair did the opposite, dressing up left wing authoritarian statism in right wing free-market language to trick tories into voting for them.

      Cameron NEEDS enough people to actually step-up and play their full part in pulling society together to make this work. We need people to perform the functions that the Government no longer wants us to do, or the Government will never ever allow society to grow up.

      We need enough people who want the state of OUR backs to step up and get this working, otherwise, the government will NEVER get off our backs or out of our pockets and we will have lost the only chance of them ever doing so.

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      • 54
        geoff says:

        why should we do anything?

        why doesn’t the government just stop.

        paying someone in this country to watch telly all day means you can’t spend the money giving clean water to african kids or bednets or anti-malarials.

        i don’t want the govt to spend my taxes on these lazy Hunt’s and i don’t want to step in either. they are in a country with free education, free healthcare free everything. if they still cant take advantage then starve

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      • 64
        Albi Here says:

        Big problem with the Big Society it’s called the big EUSSR,out of the EU we can go the way we want,while we are in the EUSSR we will be stamped on,the Conservatives and Liebour and Libdums have conived to keep us in the EU and has given the EUSSR more power to the point where Cambo is only the head of a large county council and mp’s are just area councillors,Big Society=Bulls**t,just PR for PR’s sake.

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    • 69
      Anonymous says:

      They all are” Tax Exiles” in UK.

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  17. 30
    Anonymous says:

    He was quite obviously briefed on that particular question, as he had nothing of substance to add to the debate up until that point. Unless you count fence-sitting, BBC lefty twat speak.

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  18. 48
    Watt Tyler says:

    …And still we have abject priorities.

    While our troops are away fighting capitalists’ wars the government, in the pay of said capitalists, spends 9.1 BILLION of Foreign Aid to pay countries such as China (one of the best economies in the world), India (that has a space programme), and to Zimbabwe and South Africa (who both have corrupt neo-communist “governments” that actively turn a blind eye to the slaughter of innocent White farmers).

    So, how does the British Army feel about about its soldiers being maiamed and killed by inadequate equipment and substandard vehicles while the State it represents has a government that squanders 9.1 BILLION to propping up corrupt African regimes and sponsoring sub-continental space programmes?

    Food for thought, wouldn’t you say, British Army? http://eotp.org/2010/06/12/abject-priorities-most-of-armys-armoured-vehicles-in-afghanistan-not-fit-for-purpose/

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  19. 52
    They're all smug, sneering, Celt cunts at the BBC, 'cept Kuenssberg whom I wish to bum intensely says:

    Hilton appears to be a truly ghastly, wretched, jumped up, gobshyte with small man’s syndrome.

    Why is Mr Sunshine employing this cun’t?

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  20. 57
    Gordon bROWN, the 'Man' who shat on Britain says:

    I will make a Statement outlining my plans for 2011 to the House later today.

    Meanwhile, all 16 year olds should feel free to procreate as they wish. Handouts, Council Flats, TVs and cookers will be available as before. No questions.

    And remember, it’s your patriotic duty. You do this for Britain and the next generations of LieBore voters.

    So, in the catchphrase of a programme I used to watch on AlJaBeeba . . ‘Shag Away!’

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  21. 59
    Cato Street Conspirator says:

    It’s pretty clear that Cameron is just waiting for the usual decent interval to pass (20 October perhaps) and Coulson will then go on ‘health’ grounds.

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  22. 60
    Full Circle says:

    The deckchairs have been shuffled and the new twats are proving themselves just the same as the old twats.

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  23. 61
    Herman Van Rompuy says:

    But we already have a big society of which Dave is a fully paid up adherent to.
    It’s called the EU.

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  24. 66
    Anonymous says:

    Pakistan version of “Big Society” after we gave them millions

    Two Cabinet ministers on a tour of flood-ravaged Pakistan had to be airlifted to safety after running into an anti-government demonstration.
    International Development Secretary Andrew Mitchell and Tory Party Chairman Baroness Sayeeda Warsi had to be rescued by a Pakistan Army helicopter and flown back to Islamabad after their convoy entered a region known for its links to the Taliban.
    Their convoy was swiftly re-routed to the nearest airbase after being confronted by protestors blocking roads near the town of Nowshera.

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    • 76
      Albi Here says:

      A few words come to mind,good,mind your own f*ckin business,stop giving our hard earned money away to tyrants for new Mercedes cars,charity begins at home,you can p*ss away our money when you have sorted out the problems in this country.

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  25. 78
    Voice of Reason says:

    Couldn’t watch QT much last night with that weird Max Mosley on the panel. BBC are really scraping the barrel – on second thoughts the Birmingham audience deserved it. There are some serious head bangers in that piss awful place called Brum

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  26. 82
    NotW_scumbag says:

    The longer Coulson stays, the greater the eventual damage to Dave.

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  27. 83
    Doomster says:

    I’ve always hated QT – its always four of the “usual suspects” on the panel – incompetent, preening,loudmouths all of them. Does anyone know how much the panel gets paid for each appearance? Various people I’ve asked have given different answers from zero £s (just expenses) up to a fee of £25k. It that last figure right? What a waste of my licence fee.

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