September 28th, 2010

Red Ed The Taste of a New Generation

Red Ed’s speech is going to be, in the words of one who had seen a draft of it yesterday, “vacuous” and full of talk of a “new generation”. It will be a saccharine speech sharing not just a slogan with Pepsi, its content will also be sugary and vague, without New Labour’s ideologically bitter edge. Red Ed is the synthetic taste of New New Labour…


  1. 1
    Gordon Brown says:

    I look forward to making my speech.


    • 8
      Can't remember my moniker says:

      Oh Gordon, how you have changed!


      • 32
        “vacuous” Tony Cameron the Heir to Blair says:

        “Let sunshine win the day!”

        “We’re all in this together!”

        Pot Kettle Mr Fawkes


        • 39
          Who is this chanting "new generation" like a Pepsi ad? says:

          Vacuous indeed Mr Fawkes, vacuous indeed.


          • Chairman of the Bullingdon Club says:

            They may be into Pepsi but we’re into Coke.


          • 13eastie says:
            THE REAL THING 		v	"DIET BROWN"
            Dour Scotch Accent		Fake Estuary English
            The End of Boom and Bust	The End of the Labour Party
            Son of the Manse		Son of the Marxist
            Appointed Charie Wheelan	Appointed by Charlie Wheelan
            SpAz				SpAd


          • Spot the difference says:

            THE REAL THING


            v BLU-LABOUR

            call me Dave the heir to Blair


          • Cameron throws down the gauntlet says:

            Cameron clocked up an impressive 5 vacuous “new generations” in less than 30 seconds there in his Leaders speech Ed Miliband.

            Are you man enough to beat him in the sugary saccharine speech stakes?


        • 62
          Ken Lorp says:

          Hmmmm … a nice big glass of diet Labour


          • He's just big boned, if his bones were made of blubber says:

            Give some to Eric Pickles for god’s sake before a passing walrus mates with him.


      • 123
        letcher says:

        I undestand he will give his speach with his back to the audience for like most Labour poloticians he talks out of his arse.


    • 9
      Somebody Laughing says:



    • 22
      ddd says:

      Ave u been hittin the shrooms Guido? OR ave u just ad too much sachrrine? Innit.


      • 96
        Quango says:


        “Guido has hopefully managed to transition from being an enemy of the last Labour government to being an enemy of this Coalition government. It didn’t take long…”

        You’re as pathetic and partisan as the dead tree press you bang on about. A libertarian not a Tory – bullshit. You’re attacking Milliband for what he’ll never do as well as Blair or Cameron. You’re not an enemy of the Coalition……you’re one of their little helpers.


      • 104
        we'll see says:

        if Guido’s coverage of Cameron’s speech and the Tory Conference is respun CCHQ press releases and fawning praise then you might just be right.


    • 25
      ddd says:

      P.S. People who keep posting under “Gordon Brown” please please please find a new joke, may be a new girl friend, may be a new a town, may be a new life–I’ve heard Panama is nice this time of year? May be all of the fucking above? And if u don’t do any of the above, do us all (and yourself) a big fat fucking favor (I’m not an American I just like the accent) and get it over with; have a wank in a sock, and jam it behind the radiator.


      • 28
        John Darwin says:

        Panama ain’t all it’s cracked up to be!


        • 31

          If the Jocks hadn’t fucked up in Darien, Panama might now be a Scottish colony and we wouldn’t have had to let the bastards into the Union.

          Just a thought, like…


          • Jock Basher says:

            It’s in the jocks nature to always fuck up though, God made them perpetual whingers.


          • Ron E. says:

            and totally incapable of spotting irony
            something to do with a hilarious lack of self-awareness


          • The Bottle Fed Triplet says:

            Ah yes, the Darien adventure. Only a deluded Scots economist and politician could believe that 300 wigs would be a useful part of a cargo for a pioneering expedition to a tropical outpost.

            William Patterson hailed as the financial genius of his day reinforced the Scottish reputation for fiscal prudence and wise investments by bankrupting the country, and, also forcing the impoverished Scots ruling classes in to the arms (or should that be pockets) of the Sassenachs.


        • 46
          Doc Trough says:

          Remember Panama Red Ed. On his white horse, Mescalito…


      • 30
        M'lud says:

        I suspect plenty of rocking horse and fizzy orange “jokes” will follow tomorrow. But I agree with you. A “new town”, preferably without an Internet connection.


        • 217
          Gordon Brown says:

          I’m allowed the Internet today because I didn’t wet the bed again last night.

          I did poo my jim-jams but the nurse hasn’t noticed. My BO is hiding the smell. hee hee!


      • 38
        albacore says:

        Four centuries on we remember the real Guy Fawkes and incinerate him in effigy every year.
        He paid dearly for merely threatening the realm.
        Consider the works of the mighty Gordon and let them never be forget, no matter how artless or repetitive the expression of contempt.
        The Fizzy Orange Brigade gets my vote every time.


      • 42
        Gordon Brown says:

        Thank you. It is the right thing to do.


      • 82
        The Ape Man Commeth says:

        Personaly, ddd, I’d prefer if you fucked off.

        More Gordon Brown please, I think about 13 years worth might just balance things out a bit. Least we forget.


      • 141
        Gordon Brown says:

        But ddd – it is the right thing to do.


      • 258
        Gordon Brown says:

        Ok, does doing a poo in the sock and hiding it behind the curtains count ?

        I can’t do the other as Nursie has taken away all my Obama pictures.


    • 49
      Up sh1t creek says:

      Stop saving your money, spend spend spend.

      What’s that, the Bank of England and the government are already stealing savers cash with deliberate record low interest rates, rampant inflation, the trashed UK Pound, and quantitative easing (printing money). And then the BoE has the nerve to tell savers that after the legalised theft of their money, they should spend the rest to carry on propping up the feckless borrowers even more.

      F U !


      • 52
        All those economic brains yet no common sense says:

        Yet they don’t seem to realise the simplest of all things…… one has any money to spend.

        Believe me wives and girlfriends would be spending it if people had any.


      • 55
        Double Dip says:

        It just means the BOE are shitting themselves.
        Because they know all signs point to a double dip fast approaching.


    • 69
      Lemuel says:

      *UK politician mouths meaningless platitudes*



    • 119
      biffo says:

      Red Ed’s speech, whatever else it is, will be a pile of the usual Labour (Socialist/Communist) shit & lies.


    • 191
      Booh Hoo says:

      This is a sad time for the Miliband family. All chancs of Living at no 10 Downing Street are now blown, thanks the trades unions and a brotherly feud


    • 194
      Red Ed - National security risk says:

      Red Ed has Russian backing…check out some of his supporters


  2. 2
    Liam says:

    This notion that Ed will not be “of New Labour ” should scare the living daylights from most of us. It can only mean one thing – that this is the Brownite Continuation Party. The spend, spend, spend, State Knows Best socialism, the “new generation” indeed!

    I remember Tab Clear. They said that was a break from the past too. We could all see through it…


  3. 3
    Mike Wancock says:

    I like tasting a new generation.


    • 37
      William Hague says:

      So do me and George.


      • 80
        Grumpy Old Man says:

        “so do George and I” . Another not fit for purpose product of “education edukation eadyewkashun” surfaces from the morass of the “Any Old Labour” troll swamp.


        • 112
          Bingle Email Blames Bungling Tories says:

          Well done anal twat!

          You must feel real pride in stridently convincing everyone that you, George and William Hague like tasting a new generation.

          One hopes that a senile old codger like yourself is not forced to take out your false teeth before you taste this new generation?

          I trust you also do it discretely in a hotel as William would no doubt advise.


          • Al says:

            Labour trolls are actually getting worse.

            Spend all your time doing this sort of thing?

            Very sad.


          • Grumpy's Old Man says:

            It’s an Hotel, actually.


          • Help the Aged says:

            Truly devastating put downs if we make allowances for the fact that you are an anal twat sliding inexorably into senility.


          • The Bottle Fed Triplet says:

            The world needs “anal” people. People to whom precision, accuracy and an eye for detail are important. People such as the man that built the jet engine that you will rely on at 35,000 feet over the Atlantic. The man that manufactures the tablets that you take for your ilnesses, the person that puts a stent in to your cardiac artery. Would you call them anal?


  4. 4
    Dave says:

    Would LOVE to know who tipped him off to this one…


  5. 5
    AC1 says:

    I wonder how many of the political classes are a stranger to “The Real thing”?


  6. 6
    The Unite Union Presents A Block Vote Production of A Charlie Whelan Speech, Starring Ed Miliband In "I'll do as my union masters tell me." says:

    Have Charlie Whelan and Tony Woodley written any jokes into their speech for Ed? No need, really. Ed’s ridiculous joke will generate all the laughs.


  7. 7

    He’s already said he’s sorry. The little cowboy.

    Red Ed Redemption


  8. 11
    Gordon Brown is a cunt and so is Ed Miliband says:

    Even The Grauniad is reporting that Comrade Ed will disown McDoom. What a pathetic little hypocrite.


  9. 12
    Can't remember my moniker says:

    They carry on as if they had never lost the General Election. It is briefly acknowledged in the rhetoric but not at all in practice.


    • 61
      Rufus Stone says:

      So too do the Beeb. No comment from them on the other leadership contest in UKIP, just endless stories about how Labour are to change the world under their new leader, despite being in opposition.


      • 71
        Just stating the bl**ding obvious(again)!! says:

        Along with Labour the BBC have reverted to 1980’s type.They continually attacked both the Thatcher and Major Government’s during the 80’s and early 90’s .But once you realise that the BBC is a left wing socialist Quango you understand their actions.

        The trouble is that it’s easy to attack the Coalition Government for their programme of cuts but there is a deafening silence from Labour ..firstly to acknowledge there actually IS a problem(which they were instrumental in creating)and what exactly they would do to resolve it.Until they actually deal with those rtwo points the Labour Party has no credability with the majority of the electorate which wiser heads in the party understand


        • 87
          lolol says:

          strange then, that mere minutes ago the Culture Secretary in charge of the Beeb just stated to the world on the Radio.

          “I am a strong supporter of the BBC. This Government is a strong supporter of the BBC”

          Maybe he’s just a Liar?


          • Lolobotamy says:

            Many people like the idea of the BBC but hate the tits that work for it !
            get it ?
            I mean I support the army but I wouldn’t like them to stick a tank on my lawn and tell me how to think !


          • more mong monotony says:

            If you support it but fear insidious mind control, as those without a mind of their own are oft to do, there’s a cunning device called the ‘off’ switch and even an ingenious channel changing contraption operated remotely.

            Look into this lest the imaginary tanks on your lawn overwhelm you.


          • Gropius says:

            Just don’t pay the telly tax.



          • It's too deep for me says:

            Of course he’ll say that. No Cabinet Minister is going to go on the record slagging off the BBC even if he thought(?) there was a grain of truth in the accusation

            But that doesn’t change the fact that there is a growing majority who view the BBC as a subversive organisation that peddles it’s own socialist agenda and if you keep telling people that enough times gradually it becomes what people believe and then clouds their judgement They see what they want to see.That’s been true throughout the ages. People need scapegoats for their own prejudices and failings


          • Death by Assertion says:

            Just saying something is a fact doesn’t make it so.


        • 89
          Grumpy Old Man says:

          They are playing “Blame the Banks”, just like extremist authoritarian regimes through the ages. “Wot us? Nah mate. We’re just horny-handed sons of toil. Barely enough sense to run expenses fiddles, switch houses and take £2.7 billion off the poorest by removing the 10p tax band.


          • The Kinnochs says:

            Not us, mate. We’re rich socialists, very very rich indeed!


          • Fred Goodwin says:

            I was not there and neither was my bonus.


          • Mr Ned says:

            Of course the banks were partly to blame, However, which government was it that used the wrong amount and sort of regulation over the banks?

            I liken it to a lecturer with a class of adult students teaching them about poisonous animals. Proper regulation would have the lecturer (Government) showing the students a scorpion (banks) in a safe environment. The scorpion would be in an appropriate tank, with the proper conditions for the scorpion to thrive, but the students would be able to observe the scorpion in safety. (appropriate regulation)

            Labour let the scorpion out of the tank to sting the students and now want to lock the scorpion in an airtight box, where it will suffocate.

            It is not about over regulation or under regulation, but appropriate regulation, so the banks can do what they need to do to help the economy thrive, without gambling the wealth of the nation away.


          • Can't remember my moniker says:

            Far to much common sense, Mr Ned! I fear they don’t know how to begin to use it.


  10. 14
    augustine the hippo says:

    It’s all happening in Leftie dynasties this year. Raul Castro takes over from Fidel; Kim Jung-Un is groomed to succeed Kim Jung-Il, and Mil Ban-Ed is chosen as union puppet ahead of Mil Ban(Ana)-Dee.


  11. 15
    Labour tastes a new generation says:


  12. 16
    M'lud says:

    A new generation, learning to be in opposition for a generation. Only themselves to blame.


    • 40
      Labour are Finished says:

      they’re certainly going about it the right way by beating the Tories in the polls in scarcely four months


      • 233
        M'lud says:

        They are certainly going about it the right way by electing a leader rejected by the party and the MPs and forced on them by the unions who are so popular with the public. Let’s watch the polls…


  13. 17
    White Van Man says:


    That has just blown away all your economic policy!


    • 26
      caesars wife says:

      Thats the one I watched in what has been fairly useless Labour spin I thought hooray someone is asking some decent questions , as a former BOE advisor I would have thought some intelligent answers , how wrong I was .


    • 142
      GrimeLord says:

      I saw that interview, she speaks like a spasticated robot


  14. 18
    But Ed said he wouldn't dump on Gordon... says:


    • 29
      Tapestry says:

      Instead of ”millions of people working long hours for low wages”, he wants everyone working long hours for low wages, creating a fairer society.

      That way he will stop those people who otherwise would invest and build, while he increases social spending, increasing the numbers who are dependent.

      He will stop wealth being created, and he will spend more money, the perfect recipe for financial disaster. Gordon Brown’s economic adviser is a chip off the old block.


      • 131
        biffo says:

        Also he’ll keep everyone too tired & exhausted just ‘getting by’ to even question any of his policies. Anyone who votes for Labour with Red Ed ‘and for my next trick I’ll stab my friend Gordon in the back’ Millipede in charge needs their head seen to.


  15. 20
    The Quite Man says:

    Things can only get better…
    “Benefits tourists are set to get the green light to come to Britain and immediately claim handouts totalling £2.5billion a year.
    The European Commission’s ruling threatens to open the door to tens of thousands who are currently deterred from coming to Britain”
    For Tens of thousands read Millions.


    • 260
      biffo says:

      I have dual nationality – British & another EU one. Living in the UK for 30+ years I have worked & paid my taxes & used British nationality. Obviously, I now need to use the other one, drop out & start claiming all the benefits due an EU migrant. You fucking couldn’t make it up could you? Referendum on the EU immediately and a very quick ‘fuck off thank you’ to it/them needed.


  16. 21
    Tapestry says:

    Labour economic management once wrote a booklet on how to fill a bath.

    It reads ”turn off both taps, and pull out the plug”.

    Once the water has gone and the bath is empty, state that baths are clearly not workable and that all must now have showers.


  17. 23
    Jimmy says:


    The words “kettle” and “pot” spring irresistibly to mind.

    On a happier note it should be noted that one of your recent predictions did come true: Labour’s second place in the polls was indeed in jeopardy after all. Credit where credit is due.


    • 36
      I'm getting to like the namecalling strategy now, Paddy Fawkes may on to something says:

      Don’t tell the mongs, they think the polls don’t matter.
      Just like they did when they all pointed to a hung Palriament.


    • 231
      Mr Ned says:

      I remember in 2000 when William Hague’s tory party had a lead in the polls for a couple of weeks. Meant nothing really!

      Labour have benefited from 24/7 propaganda from the BBC who were very surprised to report that the IMF have come out strongly in favour of the coalition’s deficit reduction plans.

      Even Alistair Darling was having to tell deniers at the labour conference yesterday that they needed to wake up and accept reality.


  18. 24
    White Van Man says:

    Here’s one for all you lazy public sector workers I’ve been paying for!


    Night night


  19. 34
    Red Dave is the synthetic taste of Old New Labour… says:


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  21. 45
    Richard Jones says:

    Great stuff, something new, bring on Red Ed, he’s got my vote!!

    Who the hell wants the stale Blair, Cameron and Clegg cardboard cut outs.

    YES, at last something new and fresh, C’MON!!


  22. 47
    Better Dead than Red Ed says:

    I suppose I’d better blow my nose before I start speaking otherwise I’ll stand like a total plonker.


  23. 48
    Mad, Bad & Dangerous Gordon McRuin says:

    But I DID abolish boom and bust !!!!!!!!


    • 58
      They're all smug, sneering, Celt cunts at the BBC, 'cept Kuenssberg whom I wish to bum intensely says:

      Of course you did Gordon, and we all thank you.

      Now its potty time


  24. 53
    Jock Basher says:

    When is Gordon Haggis Brown going to go fucking bonkers big style at all these backstabbing rats and lice crawling out of the woodwork now they think they are safe from getting a good hiding from him?

    Go on Brown be a man for once in your life and go fucking postal on the fuckers, bring the whole house of cards down on them and give them both barrels for trashing your name while your back is turned.

    What are you hoping to get by being silent? A peerage? cushy job appointment? Hate to tell you but it aint happening and they are making you look even more a right laughing stock in the public by dissing you over and over.

    Man up you fat poof or are you only brave when it comes to bullying women?


  25. 54
    Labour Party elected a Miliband coaliton to lead says:

    “But David Miliband’s supporters are concerned, were he to stand, that Labour’s media opponents would report even minor differences of emphasis with his brother as splits, and would suggest that psychodrama of the Blair/Brown era is returning with a vengeance,” he said.

    “And while they are emphasising the problems of serving under his brother, they are not sketching out any potential benefits.”

    The fraternal stitch up begins. It’s all too obvious what their game is:

    Denial of the Labour electorate’s will.


    • 59
      sources for courses says:

      behind the scenes briefing and ‘sources’ close to stories are notoriously unreliable
      they usually mean a journalist was at one of the conference bars and a few self important MPs started mouthing off that they had the inside track so as to appear ‘in the know’

      until and unless Miliband-D says he’s going it’s all wild guesswork and speculation
      and it’s his decision and his alone since no-one can force him to go or stay


    • 65
      The Prince across the Sea Myth says:

      David Miliband will gain very little for staying under his brother’s leadership.Much better to vacate Parliament for a job abroad…IMF or UN(?).Go to Europe or the States, earn some megabucks,keep out of any fall-out from Ed’s disastrous Leadership and after Labour have lost the 2015 election …return to UK politics


      • 111
        Backwoodsman says:

        Only the bbc could broadcast that a bloke best known for being photographed looking extremely silly with a banana , is about to be magically elevated to a leadership position in a major international body. There again, having failed to raise the inconvenient fact that ed was responsible for most of gordons’ failed manifesto, what do you expect ?


        • 147
          Jibbajabba says:

          The IMF’s credibility would be damaged if a member of the new labour regime, which brought our economy to its knees, stole pensions, destroyed manufacturing were given any role in it. Hopefully they will tell him to get lost just like harvard did to mcbust. Still likely they’ll head to EU like mandelslime.


      • 158
        Pink Knickers Mandelson says:

        I have told David Millie the defrocked heir to become filthy rich like Saint Tone has done

        And I am on the way to doing…

        Birds of Zanu Feather you know…

        And we sing to the Eton Baiting Song

        “We are all defrocked together….

        But filthy rich we will become”…


    • 74
      says who ? says:

      has he said he’s going ? until he does it’s the usual journalist wank


    • 192
      Red Ed - The Union Manchurian candidate says:

      Red Ed is a National security risk. Pure and Simple. MI5 needs to be involved…


  26. 56
    Down with Brown! says:

    I hope Ed Millband does a better job spinning the speech than he did with Paxo at last year’s conference:


  27. 57
    They're all smug, sneering, Celt cunts at the BBC, 'cept Kuenssberg whom I wish to bum intensely says:

    The Filth at the BBC will big this piece of afterbirth up as the new Messiah, of that we can be sure.

    If Cameron could manage to tear himself away from the role of statesman for a few minutes, and get engaged with the nitty gritty of politics he could score some real hits on this twat’s credibility very early in his tenure.

    Failing that when will the Blairites begin briefing against him?


    • 100
      Edincredibility says:

      You’ve set an impossible task for Cameron, Ed has no credibility to start with.

      Real job history – Check
      Name anything he has ever done in politics – Check
      Charisma – Check
      Looks – Check
      Acceptance of his part in Brown disaster – Check
      Labour MP’s top choice – Check
      Labour supporters choice – Check
      Gurning ability – Check


      • 108
        They're all smug, sneering, Celt cunts at the BBC, 'cept Kuenssberg whom I wish to bum intensely says:

        My point is who will drive these facts home to the great unwashed?


  28. 60
    Doc Trough says:

    Did I hear earlier that elder Mili could get a crack at the IMF gig? ‘ I MOLEST FRUIT! ‘ tee shirt and a Rough Guide to Banana Republics.


  29. 63
    Can't remember my moniker says:

    Ladies and Gentlemen, here is the great man of Kirkcaldy, financial genius, created the rules, saved the world ….. I give you – Adam Smith!


  30. 64
    Manchester 2010...Where did it all go wrong ???? says:

    Deep within the hearts of Labour delegates a sinking feeling growing in intensity since Saturday afternoon, is starting to gnaw at their vitals at the dawning realisation that they have picked the wrong man(again)to be their leader…………………………………………..


  31. 66
    Labour Party elected a Miliband coaliton to lead says:

    Just 10% (18% some allege) of union members voted and less than 40% of them voted for Ed M.  Ed Miliband’s leadership was orchestrated by less than 3% of union members. 

    This is Brown’s abuse of union power all over again.  

    Ed’s party leadership has no legitimacy without David because the Labour Party have voted for a Miliband coalition.

    The only route to legitimacy for Ed and for his leadership to escape the stigma of being forever cursed as Born Again Brown is with David M in his shadow cabinet.  

    Ed’s followers delude themselves that they make this reality go away by jettisoning David. The Labour Party voted for coalition leadership – old Labour tempered by New Labour – if Ed fails to recognise that his leadership is doomed.


  32. 73
    Was this a good use to which Labour put your money? says:

    I’m genuinely interested in why the Labour die-hards posting above think they lost the election? They party seem to think its because of poorer plumbers who didn’t like Labour’s immigration policy. Well let me tell you a little story. I’m an OK paid post-grad qualified technical guy working for a Japanese company. For the last couple of months I’ve been trying to rent a small house in Croydon. Rent in a poor area is 1.2K per month. A good area is 1.5K plus. Or, in real terms, the average take-home pay for most of Croydon’s suburbs. Must be because of good London transport links right? Wrong. Go to Selsdon (outside Croydon) with no transport links and the situation is the same. A couple of estate agents finally cracked and told us that average DSS rent in the nicer areas defines local pricing making it independent of proximity to employment. 1.5K is the average DSS spend. They suggested that they only show us property for none-DSS landlords as they could not let these and there was hence a lot of room for negotiation. Don’t believe me? Try it for yourself. Most fun are the block viewings arranged for houses where DSS tenants are being evicted (their (free) solicitors explain how to deny landlords access for all but the briefest windows). In my experience eviction is always down to a mixture of disruptive behaviour, property damage and non-payment of rent. The last of these is principal. As rent is paid direct to the tenants these houses often look like the Argos catalogue. But don’t worry – it requires court action for eviction and there’s always another house down the road. Whatever your shade of politics – a society which rewards non-contributors more than it does contributors is doomed to fail. I’m the last of my postgrad class left in the UK and will leave myself next year. Was this a good use of your money by Labour?


    • 126
      Professor Henry Brubaker, Institute for Studies says:

      I have to agree that giving council house tenants the money for their rent directly is utter madness. What the fuck did they think would happen? That these feckless waisters would embrace the opportunity to take more control of their lives (the intention behind the scheme) or just fucking steal it?

      Its one of many things that defines the lunacy of labour. Take from those who work and give it to those who cant be arsed. Its fair apparently.


    • 135
      Osama the Nazarene says:

      Excellent comment, more such examples needed. The Coalition need to halt and reverse the buy to let gravy train unleashed by nuliebor.


      • 210
        TOO FAR says:

        This happend to a guy I know in Crawley Sussex. The tenents didn’t pass on the rent just spent it on booze and other “things” HE had to evict them. They took some of the owners property, left the place in a mess, as well as unpaid rent.
        Was told by the DSS that any action was futile. They just said “tough”
        He is now selling the property.
        Labour fair for all!!!!


        • 229
          sockpuppet #4 says:

          That sounds a bit like amateur landlords wanting free money.
          “HE had to evict them” makes it sound like you think someone else is supposed to do that job.

          Why’s he asking the DSS what to do about tenants? that’s his job as the landlord.


          • Professor Henry Brubaker, Institute for Studies says:

            Free money?? Are you seriously suggesting that a Landlord should not be paid rent for his property?

            The landlord rents the house to the DSS not the individual tenants. As such the DSS should be paying the landlord, thats what used to happen, and if the house was trashed the local authority had to put it right.

            Instead they give the money directly to the tenants who then piss it up the wall etc. Of course the land lord may well try and take the tenants to court in order to get back the rent he is due, but how is an award of damages gonna be made against dole scum? The idle fuckers get to sit in the house rent free for several months whilst the legal process of eviction takes place (at the landlords expense) knowing full well they will be given another house as its their (sub)human rights.

            Many landlords now do not rent to DSS for this reason (i do work in these circles, in a small Venn diagram intersection kind of way).


          • sockpuppet #4 says:

            Nope, I’m suggesting that a landlord does the work of the landlord.


          • Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

            Sockpuppet you are a moron.

            The landlord is due his rent from whoever signed the lease contract. If that is the DSS then it is up to them to pay him not to pass it through to a third party.

            If the DSS want the individual tenants to pay then the landlord is effectively taking risk on them and would normally verify that the tenant is able to pay.

            I am a landlord and would never rent to

            a) someone (in this case the DSS) who wants to pay their rent to me through a third party.

            b) tenants without a steady source of income sufficient to pay the rent.

            The upshot of the current arrangement is that landlords will refuse to rent to DSS tenants.

            Labour’s Britain – a future fucked for all.

            Unfortunately I have little faith in the Coalition to put things right and like the individual above will be trying to depart the UK in the next year or so


    • 167
      English Heretic says:

      Good points, on the bright side – isn’t housing benefit one of the gravy trains the coalition is looking to seriously cut? Taking the non-contributors off ‘disability’ allowance and into work and paying their own rent too. Oh happy days (if it ever happens).


      • 238
        Mr Ned says:

        “isn’t housing benefit one of the gravy trains the coalition is looking to seriously cut?”

        Not by anywhere near enough! I think they are putting a limit of £1800 per calender month. (might be £1600) That is still way too much to be giving the poorest people.

        It is not fairness to expect people to work hard and pay their taxes in order to fund the feckless and the lazy to the extent of giving them a standard of living far in excess of many of those who do work hard.

        I am a graduate level systems engineer with 10 years experience, and I cannot afford 1800 per month just for rent!

        Housing benefit MUST be only paid to the Landlord. It must NOT be an amount that is above what the average income could afford.


    • 196
      Lord Mandy says:

      “I’m the last of my postgrad class left in the UK and will leave myself next year.”

      I can’t blame you for leaving. I wish I could. Best of luck.


    • 253
      Most public money is misspent says:

      House prices are a con / stealth tax. The only people to benefit from the house prices are estate agents (rip off, money for doing nowt, 3% – should be a fixed fee. The work hasn’t increased but the payment has), lawyers (rip off, take ages to produce the same documents that were created last time the place was sold), the older generation that have paid it off and the govt (1. by general taxes & 2. by hiking up house value based council tax rates). Speaking as someone who’s worked damn hard to practically pay their mortage off early I’m happy to say this needs sorting. Prices need to half. Average wage is 20k. 4 * salary 80k. Average house is currently 160k.

      Benefit scroungers need sorting. Hopefully this govt will sort them out. I know people who are on incapacity and there’s nothing wrong with them. The fella is built like an ox and complains he can’t work because he has a bad finger. Disgraceful. Any handouts should be earnt. Most people can contribute something.


  33. 76
    Labour Party elected a Miliband coaliton says:

    Far from shunning the Blair-Brown era by jettisoning his brother David, Ed Miliband will put it at the heart of his leadership: because he will be trampling over the will of the party for a Centrist coalition of old and new Labour policies.

    Elitist Labour never listens to the people.

    Will Ed listen to the people and his party, or will he turn a deaf ear just as Brown would?


    • 85
      you'll find out from David-M tomorrow afternoon says:

      Ed already offered him the job
      it’s up to David now


    • 261
      Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

      This quite correct – plus also Ed M was one of Brown’s inner circle. It is also likely that Brown’s homunculus Ed Balls will be in a senior role so really just more of the same.


  34. 77
    NotaSheep says:

    ‘sugary and vague’ maybe less Pepsi and more Coke Zero?


  35. 78
    genghiz the khan says:

    Red Ed and the nation’s levy funded broadcasters will just love this.

    “A BBC survey in 22 countries says that people believe that governments misspend more than half of the money they receive in taxes.”

    (Waste = Misspend, in News-speak).


  36. 79
    Moley says:

    Ed won’t know what he sincerely believes until he gets the results of a couple of opinion polls and a few focus groups.


  37. 90
    the general public says:

    “Vacuous speech”……..well that could be any of the political leaders!


  38. 91
    Labour Party elected a Miliband coalition says:

    “In 112 CLPs David Miliband received more than 50% of the vote, compared with just five CLPs where his brother Ed received over 50% of the vote.”

    “When it came to Labour’s top 50 marginal seats, David Miliband came top in 39 CLPs, well above Ed Miliband who came top in nine, with Andy Burnham and Ed Balls coming top in one each.”

    “In the 50 safe Labour seats, David Miliband again beat his rivals, coming top in 39 CLPs, followed by Ed Miliband top in nine of them, and Mr Burnham coming first in two.”

    “The union with the highest number of votes cast was Unite with 111,270 votes cast. However, this is only just over 10% of the ballots that were distributed by the UK’s biggest union, which has a membership of 1,055,074. Unite backed Ed Miliband.”

    “The next two unions with the highest number of votes cast were the GMB (43,106) and Unison (28,142), the two other big unions that had backed Ed Miliband. Again, these votes cast were just a small fraction of the ballots each union distributed.” (all from BBC News online: Number crunching the Labour leadership vote)

    If this isn’t a vote for a Miliband coalition, what is it?
    A Brownite union stich up?


    • 95
      Whatever happened to David Davis ? says:

      by that logic David Davis should be at the right hand of Cameron instead of being banished to the wilderness


      • 137
        Hampshire Tory says:

        The Wilderness was his choice when he stood down for a by-election. If he’d remained in the Shadow Cabinet he would probably be in the Cabinet for real by now.


        • 227
          He stood on a principle which baffled Cameron as he has none says:

          I doubt that’s how Davis would see it and Cameron made no secret of his displeasure with him by sidelining him even when he was in the Shadow Cabinet. Dave never forgave him for the Leadership contest.


      • 176
        Auntie Flo' says:

        Cameron beat Davis by 134,446 votes to 64,398 in a postal ballot of Tory members across the UK.

        Cameron polled 67% of votes.

        That’s a 108% majority.

        That gave Cameron unquestionable legitimacy.

        Ed Miliband polled a derisory 1.3% majority and only polled that due to the unions breaching their own rules to recomend EM


        • 208

          107% majority – think not.


        • 234
          Davis wouldn't have gone Brokeback for a start says:

          Shame he couldn’t pull off the same trick at the general election. Perhaps Davis would have done well enough to get an actual majority there?

          Though as we now know Dave didn’t even want a majority and preferred the Lib Dems in coalition rather than lead a purely Conservative government.


  39. 92
    the mongs miss Blair SO much says:


  40. 93
    Eileen Critchley says:

    He of course means a new generation of professional politicians. Just what we need!

    Its great isn’t it! they get some uber-geek champagne socialist stamp collector with the charisma of a turd.

    We got Dave.

    The wrong people in the wrong place at the wrong time.


    • 105
      Turd says:

      Don’t compare us to that plonker.

      By the way, is antone aware if Ed and David are both champagne millionaires and is there any truth that their lefty-left father squirrelled away his money to avoid paying tax – we should be told how he did it and will they voluntarily offer to repay the tax the ordinary working man would have paid?


    • 115
      Reality hurts says:

      Sadly most of the UK populace want free money and loved Labour for providing it. If it wasn’t for unskilled, illiterate immigrants getting more free money than them they might have actually elected Brown – an man loathed by all who worked with him and most who didn’t. Much as all of you blue-rinse right wingers love to hate Cameron he did actually manage to appeal to enough of the lazy, ill-educated and greedy populace to get rid of Labour for the four years it’ll take me to get the hell out of the UK. For that I thank him from the bottom of my heart. In a democratic system our leaders are mirrors of ourselves. THAT’S what you should all be worrying about – not the bl**dy EU.

      Re-Ed has never had a meaningful job or any real world experience. So what? How many Labour voters of the last 13 years are any different. The almost-communist French spent their nation’s wealth on subsiding jobs in large industry, providing good child/old-age care and creating a happy country. Brown spend our billions on creating utterly unproductive bureaucracy as a more middle-class version of benefits, wasted more billions on providing the lifestyle of a working adult to those who chose not to work in these jobs, and happily destroyed anything which may encourage dissent. Sadly as a by-product he also destroyed the quality of life in the UK as well. Our nation will need the EU when all of the working populace consists of childless, miserable couples huddled in shared-ownership studio flats whilst fretting about their graduate job stacking fence panels in the local B&Q car park (should take around 10 years). Where the hell else can anyone go to get a good quality of life? Not the UK. It’s done.


      • 236
        Middle Class Dave the Multi-Millionaire says:

        Wheras Cameron was a spad then a public relations man for a TV company.


        • 242
          Mr Ned says:

          At least he has had some experience in the private sector then, more than can be said of Ed “copy my big brother then stab him in the front” Miliband.

          I know the BBC and the rest of the lefty media will spin for all they are worth to try to present Ed as a credible leader, but really, just watch him for 5 minutes and you can see he is a repulsive, dishonest, hypocritical, disloyal, soul-less, ball-less immoral, value-less sack of shit whose face does not even fit his head!


        • 263
          Read the post before behaving like a Mong says:

          “In a democratic system our leaders are mirrors of ourselves. THAT’S what you should all be worrying about”

          Cameron is not an ideal leader. That’s the point. He represents the political ‘will’ of a country which has gone a very long way down the wrong road. He is immensely better than any Labour politician as he at least understands a little bit about economics, personal freedom and the role of the state in a free democracy. That said, he’s hardly the required saviour of our economically and morally bankrupt nation. That’s the point. He represents the general average of the British people and that’s why we’re f*cked. Because of us. Not him.


  41. 109
    2000 microbands says:

    Be fair on Ed, he’s probably not received his instructions from Charlie Whelan yet.


  42. 113
    Jonathan says:

    It is perfectly true that the Bolshevik Broadcasting Corporation seems to be completely oblivious of anything else going on in this country other than the New Labour leadership contest and its aftermath. The left wing bias of the supposedly independent BBC has been paraded for all to see. Equally obvious is the fact that Labour seem not to have grasped that they LOST the election. God help us if ever we get a Bolshevik Jew running (sorry that should be ruining) the country. I shall be up in the hills with my shotgun taking out the commissars.


  43. 116
    UK lost the plot says:

    Am i the only one who saw the report this morning on telly telling me labour on 40% and the Cons on 39%.
    what the fuck is wrong with this country.FFS


  44. 118
    Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

    Remember Ed used to write Gordon’s speeches so expect a four hour recital of tractor statistics and economic illiteracy.

    He might look like Blair but he is Gordon


  45. 121
    Charlie the M....Puppet Master says:

    Having seen some of the leaked bits on Sky, he’s going to blame the city etc for the economic problems and ignore the insane spending and borrowing of money we didn’t have in an Labour administration that he was part of.
    Sounds like the ghost of, “It started in America not our fault, I’m going to save the world.” Just please give me and Charlie, the one with his hand up my arse pulling the strings a chance next time, cause new, old whatever we are called Liebour will look after everbody lots and lots and lots.

    Signed by me Red Ed Millipede age 14 and a half with the insight into the problems that a 14 and half year and Ed Balls would have about the economy. We like spendin ur munney in it and when that runs out we go to those nice bankers and borrow more to keep Charlie and de unions and de bloated public sector happy. By the way did I say i really like the middle class, cause am de only ones who care about u, cause its ur munney were spendin.


  46. 124
    Sir William Waad says:

    Ed Miliband’s election has put a spring into the step of everyone on the Right. Instead of Blair’s humbugs and Gordon’s sourballs, we now have a plain old-fashioned Labour gobstopper to work on. Yes, it’s back to the 70s with Ed!


    • 130
      Communists everywhere says:

      He really is just Arthur Scargill in a suit. The public will be so revolted by this young Stalin that Labour’s polls will plummet in the weeks to come to Lib Dem levels.


      • 248
        Mr Ned says:

        Whilst it is obvious to anyone with a clue that red Ed in power would be to the left of Michael Foot, he will not announce that in advance. Expect 4.75 years of non-stop spin about moderation, newness, fresh ideas, fairness to all….

        They will recycle Blair’s speeches and hope nobody notices. No policy will be spelled out in detail, ever. Just wishy-washy platitudes. Even Ed knows his brand of socialism will kill the labour party stone dead, so he will lie and lie and lie and lie and pretend to be a moderate centrist. As he said, he wants to redefine the centre ground of politics. This means he wants to rebrand hard-left socialism as moderate centrism. The BBC will no-doubt help him to do that too.

        Blair was very successful stating “I know labour was wrong in the 1970s and 1980s vote for me” Ed will try the same strategy. Not offering new solutions, but just admitting that labour was wrong in the past. I could never believe how successful one could be by saying, “vote for me because I realise I was wrong.” However, I will NOT believe Ed is sorry, or even that he believes labour was wrong over the Iraq invasion until he supports sending his former colleagues to stand trial for the war-crimes of which they are undoubtedly guilty.

        Do not expect the unions to fight too hard against the “moderate” spin either. They will be satisfied that they have their man in their pocket. They too know that the public will not support a hard-left candidate, so they will stage some pretend spats with Ed, and pretend to be hurt and let down by the centrist view. But in power? Ed would ruin this country within 4 years.

        It will take a lot more than the next 8 years for the coalition to mend the broken economy. So, although the economy might be in better shape at the next election, it will not be as robust as it was in 1997 when labour took over.


    • 138
      Twit Tw*t Twot says:

      With the same seventies sh*t,if there’s a god we will definetly need help,we can’t go back to that,as we will end up having a civil war,no if’s no, but’s,40 years and we are back to the same,nah even Liebour or the Unions would do such a thing


  47. 129
    Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

    O/T – I had not realised that David Miliband was married to Baroness Ashton’s sister.


  48. 143
    niceworkifyoucangetit says:

    David will stand aside and try for the IMF job, or similar, and if he doesn’t get it little Bro will put him in the House of Lords, in due course.


  49. 145
    UN Observer says:

    Sadly New New Labour under Red Ed will still include the same bunch of thugs inherited from Brown…Whelan, Watson, Balls and who knows, Macbride !!

    Without the Blairites to stop them….


    • 154
      Voice of Treason says:

      Thank goodness for that. Another round of Blair and his ilk is the last thing this country needs.


  50. 148
    spend, spend, spend says:

    Charlie Bean, Bank of England deputy governor, admits the Bank’s olicy is to screw savers and force them to spend by imposing miniscule interest rates:


  51. 149
    Steve Miliband says:

    ……Comrades, the era of New Labour is over, welcome to the new generation of New New Labour.
    I was brought up on a council estate, was sent down the pits at 12 and worked my way to the top.
    I want to appeal to the poor and impoverished whilst also neatly getting votes from the middle classes.
    I will make the deficit zero at the same time I will increase spending on all public services and dramatically reduce unemployment.
    I will decrease taxes and every day will be a holiday.
    I did not write the 2010 manifesto and I never really liked Gordon Brown.
    Err that’s all


  52. 150

    I’m no doubt being a bit slow here but if Ed is as much of a pillock as he looks and sounds surely he should be being boosted and supported by non Labour types, encouraging him and giving him a sense of security of tenure?

    He’s the best man to lead Labour into the wilderness for ever and a day, don’t scare him off.


    • 180
      World Economist says:

      You are quite correct. That’s what they’ve been trying to do, but silk purse and sow’s ear situation.


  53. 151
    sack Charlie Bean now!! says:

    Bank of England mocks savers and tells them to spend for Britain…..


  54. 152
    Voice of Treason says:

    I have to laugh when it keeps getting quoted that the unions won it for EM as if the union votes were simply from the leaders. The union votes for EM were made up of thousands of ordinary workers, nurses, police, teachers, admin etc.

    One good thing is that DM’s wife is apparently furious about EM pipping her husband. She had already chosen wallpaper for No.10 and was looking forward to becoming first lady, oh dear, back to the violin I suppose.


  55. 153
    The Watcher says:

    Just like aspartame / phenylaniline – long term build up toxin causing neurological damage.


    • 164
      the damage is visible to all says:

      And call me Dave’s Leadership Speech was peppered with soundbites about a “new generation”. Not so very long term at all then.


  56. 157
    savers get screwed says:

    The Bank of England admits it has a policy of screwing savers to force them to spend. This country is f***ing unbelievable. Are Cameron and Osborne going to act on this:


  57. 162
    Selohesra says:

    After the general election all the usual labour suspects span the line that the tories had not really won it – I dont hear any cries that EM didnt really win it even though its only some bizarre mathematics & allocations that got him over the line (just)


    • 171
      sockpuppet #4 says:

      Thats party politics for you. Ed’s the leader so you don’t disagree with him. Boat rocking not allowed.


    • 172
      poor old lib dems, always forgotten says:

      Don’t think I’ve heard Miliband calling for a coalition partner from another party to help him become Leader yet.


      • 198
        Auntie Flo' says:

        Nor did Cameron! Not for the party leadership, anyway. With his very poor showing in the leadership poll, however, Ed Miliband certainly needs a leg up from someone.


        • 216
          poor old lib dems, always forgotten says:

          He did to become PM at the general election.
          If Cameron had won it he wouldn’t have needed to.
          Simple as that.


  58. 178
    the windowlickers really loved Blair and are distraught nobody likes him says:


  59. 182
    Steve Miliband says:

    So what happened to Panorama last night?
    BBC got it’s facts wrong after months of investigation at the expense of the taxpayer?


    • 193
      Lolobotamy says:

      Nope the beeb needed to protect it’s sources from public/judicial scrutiny [or more likely from being found out as lier’s and puppets of the Crow/Whelan media empire!]


  60. 187
    Beeboid sub-editor says:

    The BBC will be reporting this evening that Ed Milliband’s speech shows that he is just the man to rescue this country from the destruction caused by Thatcher and her disasterous policies.


    • 206
      Steve Miliband says:

      ……….and the massive coalition cuts that will effect every frontline service


      • 232
        It would be good if Labour could start facing reality for a change says:

        Unfortunately they omitted to mention that Labour is responsible for the situation that requires cuts in the first place.AND in fairness I will say that Labour isn;t responsible for all the problem as the situation wasn’t made any better by the Global Banking Crisis but the UK public finances and retail lending sector were already unsustainable even before then,the crisis just quadrupled the problem.

        We were all living in a bubble of unsustainable credit to finance a lifestyle that our economy couldn’t support.Labour kept unemployment under control and masked the UK’s declining private sector particularly in the North and Midlands by increasing the public sector.We are now seeing a re-balance.

        I would be prepared to allow Labour an opportunity to convince that they could be returned to government in 2015 if firstly they accepted the problem and instead of just a knee-jerk reaction opposing the cuts tell us exactly how they would deal with the problem.Until they can do that convincingly and admit that the public sector is unsustainable at the present time and had they won the election they would be engaged in a similar exercise albeit at a slower pace(which may have had to be speeded up if the pressure of the market caused difficulties on sterling) then nobody will listen


  61. 189
    Rentboy Chief Whip Brown says:

    And don’t forget me comrades

    I am going to be overwhelingly elected Zanu Chief WHip

    I will take instructions from Thuggie Whelan as well as a loyal Brownite


  62. 190
    Ed Stalin Miliband says:

    Comrades! I mean, colleagues, yes I meant colleagues. Ha ha, my little joke. Damn.


  63. 202
    Red Ed says:

    Ba…Ba black sheep have you any wool……


  64. 209
    Ed Millibands assertiveness coach says:

    Remember to roll your sleeves up and gesticulate on every word Ed,it distracts people from the meaningless drivel coming from your blocked nose.


  65. 219
    Gordon Brown says:

    fizzy pop
    fizzy orange pop

    rumble rumble
    thump thump


  66. 221
    The Real Ed Milliband says:

    I wish all members of the Labour Party to UNITE in UNISON with the PROSPECT of future greatness..


  67. 223
    Boys in Blue beyond the law. says:

    So not only do the experimental and unlicenced “shotgun” Tasers used on Moaty deliver enough volts to make his trigger finger contract, the electrodes hit the body with enough impact to induce muscle reflexs.


    • 252
      Mr Ned says:

      Ah, but apparently, the independent investigation carried out by the police showed that Moaty pulled the trigger first and shot himself with a shotgun, leaving one small hole going through the top of his own head, before the taser was fired.


  68. 226
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Red Ed or Red Ex ?


  69. 235
    Martin Day says:

    HIs speech, just like those of the murdering war criminal and gutless dikshit (or should that be shitty dick) Brown the deluded clown will consist of the same BULlSHIT, SPIN and LIES from a limp wristed twisty faced inbreed.


  70. 243
    Gordon Brown says:



  71. 250
    purrdey says:

    Followed by a rousing rendition of the anthem:
    The people’s flag is palest pink
    It’s not as red as most folks think
    We don’t want people all to know
    What Socialists thought of long ago
    Don’t let the scarlet banner float
    We need the middle classes’ vote
    Though Liberals scoff and Tories sneer
    We sing The Red Flag once a year

    But perhaps not this version:
    The working class can kiss my arse
    I’ve got the leader’s job at last
    The system I’ll no more resist
    I’m going to be a capitalist

    Now you can raise the standard high
    Beneath its shade to fight and die
    But brother, please don’t count on me
    I’ve up and joined the bourgeoisie


  72. 264
    David Miliband says No2AV says:

    A new generation? A new flock of sheep. Baaa, Baaa!


  73. 267
    Lizzie says:

    Red Ed…..don’t you mean New Old Labour


  74. 268
    decimus says:

    Some schoolboy called Ed has just been on BBC [the Bliar/Broon Broadcasting Corporation]spouting meaningless slogans,threatening to take over the Government!He had forgotten to wear his short trousers and cap though,so perhaps we shouldn’t take him too seriously?He won’t last long because his sponsors Messrs Woodley and Simpson didn’t crack one smile.The other Millipede will go away,see Mandy,Campbell and Tony B.Liar,come back and oust his sprog brother in less that 2 years.He will be supported by the only [half] credible Labourite “Darling”.You heard it here first.


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