September 27th, 2010

How the Unions Won it for Red Ed

This morning’s papers could not have been comfortable reading for the majority of the Labour Party who did not vote for Ed Miliband. Despite attempts to say “so what” to the fact that Unite and the other unions have the leader of their party by the balls, Red Ed is being defined by his opponents (and supporters) before the voting public have any idea who he really is. Not without good reason, imagine the outcry from Labour if the Tories biggest donor had been given the deciding say in who the party leader is, against the wishes of the membership and MPs. Try as Ed may to claim he is his own man, the results speak for themselves and how they were achieved is very telling.

Not only was there the £135,000 given to Ed’s campaign directly, but money was spent elsewhere pushing his face and name. Take this ballot paper envelope from the GMB for example:

Unite the Union broke not only the spirit but the letter of the leadership election laws by sending a mailshot endorsing Ed when they sent the ballot papers to their 950,000 members.  Unite even set up a website backing Red Ed which linked to the Electoral Reform Society’s online voting page. If David Miliband had a little less dignity he would have pretty solid grounds for an investigation.

The unions gave help-in-kind worth millions. There is no way the unions will not want a return for their investment and in the campaign Ed promised to support strikes and even show his face at the TUC’s coordinated action day. Guido is fairly confident this won’t happen and Ed will have to attempt to distance himself from his puppet-masters. Expect tame words calling for political solutions and the like…


  1. 1
    MI7 says:

    So the NWO has its new stooge

  2. 2

    What are the odds for Millimong D giving lil bro a bit of ‘Turkish Revenge’, not a full stab in the back but a stiletto in the arse?

  3. 3
    Red Ed's Glorious Future says:

    Ed speaks at the 2011 annual meeting of the Ed Miliband Appreciation Society:

  4. 4
    My other car's a Merkava says:

    Anyone got any idea how those 10% of “spoiled” union ballots would have affected the outcome?

  5. 5
    Mitch says:

    10% of union ballot papers were spoiled because members wouldn’t confirm that they were Labour party supporters.

  6. 6
    Mr (Red) Ed - The talking Horses' Arse says:

  7. 7
    Red Ed's Election Fixing Department says:

    It’s not rocket science.

  8. 8
    Red Ed's Glorious Future says:

    David Miliband has been retired from the Labour Party.

  9. 9
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Labour are going to the left YIPPPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!

  10. 10
    Labour are dead says:

    This is just too fucking funny. David Milibot bottled the chance to oust Brown and he’s ended up on the scrap heap, and Brown bottled calling an election in 2007 that he’d have probably won and he’s ended up getting kicked out of office. You’d need a heart of stone not to laugh.

  11. 11
    Kneedeep Inshite, President of Pakistan says:

    “it is very unfair of other nations to keep blaming us for the slow progress in ‘mopping-up’ after the recent floods in my country. Everybody knows that all our best spongers are currently resident in the UK…”

  12. 12
    Sir Michael Shyte says:

    Waht will Red Ed say about the BBC strike at the Tory Conference ?

    That it is a blow for democracy ? FFS

  13. 13
    P. Doff says:

    Those with Ed Millicnut’s box ticked will probably be shredded faster than Tony Bliar’s expenses claims were!

  14. 14
    David Milibland says:

    Hi, is that Mossad? Any chance you can fix someone’s car wheels for me?

  15. 15
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    What was the union turnout ?

  16. 16
    Baron Kinnockio of Europe says:

    Charlie Whelan the Lord Ashcroft of the Labour Party.

  17. 17
    Defeated Milliband says:

    I’m off to the UN on $500,000 plus expenses per year

  18. 18
    Steve Miliband says:

    Or couldn’t read

  19. 19
    Steve Miliband says:

    Donkey jacket, jeans and steel toecap boots

  20. 20
    Defeated Milliband says:

    Tax free

    Mandy and Blair tell me I should avoid tax…

  21. 21
    Red Ed - The Union Manchurian candidate says:

    OK, when the Unions decide to go full retard and try and pull a winter of discontent after the CSR, is Ed going to support his Union brothers?

    More likely hiding under the bed is my guess.

  22. 22
    Tax Man says:

    Like you and Red Ed did with your father’s house you mean…

  23. 23
    Anonymous says:

    Interestingly, they both had children in strange circumstances.

    Anyone that buys their children BOGOF is too wierd for me, tbh.

  24. 24
    Kinnochio's reaction to Ed's election says:

    All right! All right! All right!

  25. 25
    Anonymous says:

    I thought union members got a vote even if they are not members of the Party? So why should their votes be thrown away just because they didn’t tick a box saying they supported the Labour Party?

  26. 26
    Bob's Crow says:

    Ed ain’t done nothing wrong yet and he will UNITE (and RMT) the party

  27. 27
    Anonymous says:

    Well, yes, when you think about it.

  28. 28
    Mossad says:

    No need. The wheels are going to fall off soon enough.

  29. 29
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    But is Ed in the Looney left part of the left

  30. 30
    Unite Ed says:

    That’s why we call him Unite-Ed

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  32. 32
    Charles 'Free' Whelan says:

    This is all wrong, Unite Ed, Red Ed are false. Ed is a man to support the middle classes and bring centrist policies to the party.

    Watch this space

  33. 33
    anonymous says:

    democracy, don’t ya just luv it?

  34. 34
    Anonymous says:

    Trade Union and Socialist Society affiliates ballot papers must include a statement of support for the Labour Party, which its members will be required to approve. Any ballot papers returned without this section completed will be considered ineligible. In the case of Trade Union affiliates the wording to be included is set out below:

    “I support the principles and policies of the Labour Party, am not a supporter of any organisation opposed to it and pay a political subscription to the body that issued this ballot paper.”

  35. 35
    Audemus Dicere says:

    A literal case of “Reds under the bed” then…

  36. 36
    NeverRed says:

    The £135,000 ‘given’ to Ed by the union was in fact taxpayers money stolen by use of labours union modernisation fund!

    Two words describe these morons talking incessantly about what the coalition government should do…….Disgusting scum.

  37. 37
    Lenin says:

    Labour’s winners, Blair & Mandy, have left the building!

  38. 38
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Guido are you doing a live chat for red Eds speech tomorrow ?

  39. 39
    namecalling as a serious political strategy for the next four years says:

    You do realise this isn’t the USA Mr Fawkes ?
    Just calling someone a communist or marxist won’t work here and the smarter bloggers and Conservatives are already working out a more realistic strategy than calling him Red every five minutes.

    His weakness isn’t the unions but unity.

    Unless he gets the Blairites and Brownites to cease and desist all hostility then the feud will never end and tear any Shadow Cabinet apart slowly but surely.

    Cameron, Osborne, Letwin, Hilton and CCHQ are probably working out small headline policies to quickly throw out designed to put both wings at each others throats again as Ed has to decide does he support them or not and how to balance both wings in a cabinet not of his own choosing.

    Hardly anybody in the wider public has even heard him speak at length yet and that’s when they make up their minds. He has an entire week of Conference in which to define himself so he’ll worry about the Tabloid right no more than Clegg did over being called a Nazi.
    And thanks to the right’s goading he’ll find giving the unions a few slaps very easy to do. Nobody thinks he’s scargill but the loons. Even Brown managed to keep his distance from the BA Strike when he was IN power. Keeping your distance when you’re out of power is even easier.

    But if you seriously think namecalling will work, by all means, keep at it.
    I’ll even help because it’s so laughably childish and doomed to backfire.
    Try calling him Marxistband or Milibrother or ComRed Miilband.

  40. 40

    What was that about unions…..?

  41. 41
    Mike Hunt says:

    I was going to say 9% but that reply is much funnier.

  42. 42
    Oona King says:

    I voted David but now I support Ed. I’m basically a gutless obsequious sycophant who’ll support whoever is Labour leader and will vote for whatever policy they introduce. I have backbone, me. And I’d like a job.

  43. 43

    Dont forget Lord levy

  44. 44
    NeverRed says:

    I want the bbc to go on strike forever, and then the government can sell it off to the highest bidder.

  45. 45
    purpleline says:

    I understand from Rick Wakeman that the Strawbs are re-releasing one of their hit records from 73. POTU Ed Milibands record of choice

  46. 46
    Steve Miliband says:

    Please no. BBC is in fucking overdrive with their new PM to be

  47. 47
    it woz the Sun wot monged it! says:

    calling him Red is bound to work

    everybody thinks Clegg is Hitler thanks to the tabloids at the election

  48. 48
    The ghost of Michael Foot says:

    At last! Make me proud, Ed! You can do it!

  49. 49
    A future that is totally f*ck*d for Labour says:

    Every time a Union Militant comes on the screen slagging off the cuts.Every strike that inconveniences the public….the Tories and Right Wing Media will have a field day with “Red Ed” and who got him the leadership.It happened in the 80’s with Foot and Kinnock and ultimately lost them any chance of power for a generation.

    The “Black Ops” haven’t even started in earnest yet.It’s just a few Blairites making the waves.The full force of the Tory PR & M*u*r*d*o*c*h Media Empire machine hasn’t even been focused on Ed yet

  50. 50
    MI7 says:

    good article.

  51. 51
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    So red Ken in london and red Ed for the party , All my wishes have come true *

    *Except the one with Georgie Thompson and Sara Jane-Mee .

  52. 52
    jgm2 says:


    Now that would really piss off the Maximum Imbecile.

  53. 53
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Agree Mike

  54. 54
    Sir Everard Digby says:

    Nice to see Gordon Brown’s speech writer has risen to the top – can we expect more of the same droning crap we have had to endure since 2007?

    Like Ed Balls, Milliwit trod the path of Treasury Advisor before being parachuted into a safe seat.

    An example of his total bollocks thinking is here:

    Old Labour,Old Rubbish

  55. 55
    Comrade Cable invites Red Ed to attack Capitalism like the Communist Coalition says:

  56. 56
    David Ex-Milliband says:

    If the truth be told Guido

    When I saw what Whelan and his union cronies were up to

    I didn’t want to become leader

  57. 57
    The Bottler says:

    I voted for me, I’m basically a gutless obsequious ruler who’ll support me and will vote for whatever policy I introduce. I have backbone, me, and I want to carry on with my vision.

  58. 58
    jgm2 says:

    Hard to give a shit how many union votes were ‘spoiled’ really.

  59. 59
    NotW_scumbag says:

    Talk about catering to the lowest common denominator.

    Red Ed : it would be funny, if it wasn’t thoroughly pathetic.

    And this is supposed to be a highly-regarded political blog.

    As dumb as the Sun more like.

  60. 60
    Gordon Brown says:

    Does Ed drink fizzy orange?

  61. 61
    Heart of Stone says:

    Hahahahaha. Ahahahahahaha.



  62. 62
    Can't remember my moniker says:

    Labour don’t know how to obey the law. They just used to make legislation and when you do that, it is only natural that you have dispensation from obeying it. As for their paymasters, who is going to dare tell them they can’t do entirely as they please?

  63. 63
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Wales is getting invaded by Yanks

  64. 64
    Steve Miliband says:

    Name me one Socialist with a sense of humour, apart from Vince Cable:

  65. 65
    Heart of Stone says:



  66. 66
    Tom 'Bunter' Watson says:

    Hope Red Ed/Mr Ed has work for us rough em up boys!

    The BBC seems to be dancing to our tune, so that’s a start.

    Slime, smear and dribble.

  67. 67
    Gruppenführer Clegg vill teach Red Ed ze error ov hiz ways. Ze Tabloids are alvays right. says:

  68. 68
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Some f the labour backbenchers did have in the last parliment ( I mean the rebals )

  69. 69
    jgm2 says:

    These days it’s clipboards and biros.

  70. 70
    Laura Jock K of the BBC says:

    Hello boys and gidls

    I’m the Great Laura K

    I”m your host at the Conference

    I have the first first scoop of my lige for you (since I took over from Toenails)

    Charlie Whelan, the offocial spokesman of the Parteh, has told me the Zanu Labour Party is dead

    And that it has been renamed

    The Loonite Party

    Short for Loonies of the World Unite…

    PS My 137 colleagues covering Conference salute you…

  71. 71
    Potkettle says:


    The loonies have (re)-taken over the asylum.

    What is it about the left wing of politics that makes them so good at making the wrong decisions

  72. 72
    the beast of clerkenwell says:

    Another jaffa in the family. He and his partner don’t know just who is the daddy.

  73. 73
    jgm2 says:

    Did I not read that little loophole had been closed. 10 million a year less for Bob Crow’s pension fund now.

  74. 74
    Sky Correspondent says:

    Only 137 BBC staff at Conference Laura ?

    All unionised I suppose ?

  75. 75
    Dick the Prick says:

    Absolutely agree and it should be done quite quickly. There’s not much point in reducing the licence fee because that will just lower the amount it could be sold for and if dimwits choose to pay the tax, then screw ‘em.

  76. 76
    genghiz the kahn says:

    Mike Smithson helpfully posted a link to the Labour Party’s Affiliates votes.

    Looks odd that Ed Milipede gains so many votes from Unite, Unision, GMB in such large percentages when he struggled to gain first choice votes from MPs, Constituency Parties.

  77. 77
    Gruppenführer Clegg vill teach Red Ed ze error ov hiz ways. Ze Tabloids are alvays right. says:

    Please DON’T warn them off!

    They don’t realise that this just makes it all the easier for him to slap down the unions. Nor do they remember just how badly this backfired for three elections in a row. This is going to be as hilarious as the Mail calling Clegg a Nazi.

  78. 78
    Charlie Wheely Bin says:

    All requests for interviews with Ed must go through me first. Thank you.

  79. 79
    MI7 says:

    Come one I’m taking bets that NotW Scumbag is a jounralist (probably for the printed press) who’s seen the writing on the wall and knows he/she will be out of a cushy fleet street job in 5 years and is jealous because no one reads his/her blog.

  80. 80
    Jack says:

    They can’t help it

    The real reason Ed the Red was elected by the unions was


    on the bouregois running dogs like Blair, Mandy and all the other arriviste millionaires and hypcrites…

  81. 81
    the beast of clerkenwell says:

    Both of millibands offspring started in america

  82. 82
    jgm2 says:

    I’m amazed anybody wants to live there to be honest.

  83. 83
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Will the blairites now join the coalition ?

  84. 84
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Must be the sheep

  85. 85
    Little Boy Blue says:

    He is an avowed atheist. He is living in sin. His name does not appear on his son’s birth certificate. he is the son of a Polish Jew. How will this ride with the Christian vote, particularly the catholic church cme election time.

  86. 86
    Yvette Cooper-Balls says:

    I’m Yvette

    My dad was a senior union leader

    That is why I am loved by the unions and will be Shadow Chancellor

    Whether I can do the job or not…

  87. 87
    Engineer says:

    Dennis Healey. Not that (with no disrespect to him) he’ll be heavily involved in current politics.

  88. 88
    back by popular demand Lord Ashcroft & his amazing disappearing Millions says:

  89. 89
    The Strawbs says:

    Thanks Ed, the new royalties will offset the raid on my pension by that Hunt Brown.

  90. 90
    Sir Michael White (salary £ 182,000) says:

    If they had any sense

    Which is doubtful

    (Even though Frank Field and Co already have)

  91. 91
    Steve Miliband says:

    Even the Labour Students prefered D. Take out Unite and it would have been D

  92. 92
    Portillo and his bastards says:

    Major didn’t like it up him

  93. 93
    Anonymous says:

    M.P.’s know him, most union members don’t.

  94. 94
    Heseltine and Fat Ken says:

    Maggie didn’t like it up here either.

  95. 95
    bird with small brain says:

    David Cameron should offer Dave Milliband a job. That would really finish of Labour. Ok. Stupid I know, but a nice fantasy.

  96. 96
    Steve Miliband says:

    Mr Harman will be getting a tasty job

  97. 97
    Common Law Mrs E Milliband says:

    And no doubt will be brought up in America

    Mrs D Milliband is American…

    And the UN is waiting for her husband (!)

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    Engineer says:

    I seem to recall that a quiet warning shot was fired some weeks ago across the Unions’ bows by the government, suggesting more restrictive legislation against strikes and other union activity detrimental to the normal running of the country. It wasn’t much reported, but no doubt the union leaders were made very aware privately that the government has the ability and commands the Commons majority to pass such legislation if it deems it necessary.

  99. 99
    Potkettle says:

    Talking of lunatics running things.

    The parliamentary party ELECT the shadow cabinet.

    So if I have this correct the MP’s wanted Mili D, now they havent got him they can scupper Mili E by VOTING into position all the people they want that oppose Leade rEd’s policies

  100. 100
    genghiz the khan says:

    14% or 15% of spoilt papers from Unite, Unison and GMB, I wonder how many of them had not put Ed at the top.

  101. 101
    Historian says:

    Yes, it is all programmed

    Unite and close allies will take every influential position

    Treasurer (already got it), Deputy Leader (by marriage), Chief Whip (interesting to see who will take over from Rentboy Brown) etc

    Guido must be watching this closely already…

    It is a real putch….Like the Bolshevics did…

  102. 102
    Tony Woodley says:

    You can go to fuck, Guido.

  103. 103
    Genealogist says:

    I’m sure they chose One of Them in the US !

  104. 104
    Frank Field says:

    You think ? You clearly don’t know the heir to Blair very well.

  105. 105
    foaming says:

    NWO are playing you up. Delingpole is a puppet of the NWO and is only really pretending to throw a spak-attack (or the NWO know he’s bound to do one) over this in order to wind up everyone remotely interested in a conspiracy theory. Make us look more like foaming mouthed loones.

  106. 106
    Mirror Correspondent says:

    Hello Fat Cat

    I see you have been up your normal skullduggery

    You can’t help it can you ?

  107. 107
    South of the M4 says:

    Actually it is because there are only 5 million living in Wales. A lot less crowded than many parts of England. More relaxed pace of life. And for this you only have to learn to spit and gurgle a bit when you speak. Wouldn’t move back to England me.

  108. 108
    Yet more BBC Repeats says:

    They don’t like it up ‘em sir!

  109. 109
    Cassandrina says:

    The Toady Programme this morning was so disgusting in their genuflexing to the unions and Labour ex ministers that I could not stand it and turned it off.
    Simpson was encouraged to be as odious as Caroline Quinn but at least he has the excuse of being openly anti – government.
    BBC bashing is definately in order.

  110. 110
    Honest Correspondent says:


    Probably from the Guardian

    Or one of the KGBeastie newspapers

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    Engineer says:

    That might not be as daft as it sounds. If Labour do lurch significantly to the left (and that is not as certain as some on this blog suggest) it will leave the right wing of the party (Darling, Denham and the like) isolated. Some of the younger MPs may be tempted to cross the floor and join the LibDems, seeing little possibility of career advancement or government appointments during their political lifetime if they don’t.

    Milliband D? Unlikely; a career in the EU, UN or similar international organisation is more probable, as per Mandelson after his ministerial defrockings.

  112. 112
    T*ory lord still at it. says:

    Lord Ashcroft the T*ory non dom still avoiding tax.

  113. 113
    Little Ed says:

    Hello. I am sitting next to Mad Hattie Mummy at my special party. She is going make me her special pudding if I don’t suck my thumb or have any tantrums. Yipee!

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  115. 115
    Steve Miliband says:

    Do you think the delegates and Labour party members are suddenly thinking ‘Sh*t, what the f*ck have we done? How the f*ck did that happen?’

  116. 116
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Avioding tax is legal

  117. 117
    Ed says:

    Thanks. Solidarity, brothers and sisters.

  118. 118
    Martin Day says:

    Any chance of giving this a mention ?

    Tory peer Lord Ashcroft squirrelled away £17million into a trust fund in April – the day before a law came in forcing him to pay tax on it.

    In a fresh embarrassment to the Prime Minister, who has pledged to crack down on tax avoidance by the rich, Ashcroft has sidestepped a £3.4million Treasury bill.

    BBC1’s Panorama tonight reveals that the Conservative party backer put the sum, in company shares, in trust for his children on April 5. A law requiring all peers sitting in the Lords to pay full tax on worldwide income was enacted the following day.

    Read more:

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Have they the intelligence ?

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    jgm2 says:

    Do you think the delegates and Labour party members are suddenly thinking

    Labour Party members ‘thinking’?

    Do you have some precedent for such behaviour?

    Their whole modus operandi is that they, by definition, do not ‘think’. Which is why they fuck everything up so badly.

  121. 121
    La' says:

    hows the hotel Tony? nothing’s too posh for the workers!

  122. 122
    Honest Correspondent says:


    He will flee to America to join his brother

  123. 123
    Up The Revolution says:

    Go and tell it to the rebel army.

  124. 124
    Al says:

    Guido, it’s not an excess of “dignity” that’s stopping David Miliband from contesting the result, it’s cowardice.

    David M. is a gutless wretch who hasn’t got an ounce of fight in him. He is a spoiled, pampered, pseudo-leftie from a sheltered background in leafy North London. He has had it easy all his life and hasn’t had to break sweat for anything up until now.

  125. 125
    Emilly Titless says:

    I am the queen of the glorious Labour conference you jock bitch koonsburger, I was doing OK till you came along, now fuck off back to jockland and report on your scotch mongs.

  126. 126
    £3.4 million down the drain says:

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    Get real and tell it like it really is says:

    What a perfect example of chutzpah from David Miliband this morning, grandstanding about the war in Afghanistan, started by himself, Broon et al, he propounded that he above all others had the intellect to stop it. This tosser deserves to fall into the deepest pit of oblivion. The pity is that as a very rich, tax avoiding, turning in the wind whichever way it blows, vacillating no “bottle” turd he will weasel into something to further avoid ever doing any form of work totally unlike “the workers” – more chutzpah – he and his equally mega priveleged brother claim to represent. They are the real scum of the earth.

  128. 128
    War Criminal R us says:

    you actually want them ???

  129. 129
    jgm2 says:

    The trouble for Dave is that (apparently) Labour shadow cabinet jobs are voted on by t’members. Ie are not in the gift of his little brother.

    So it may well be that poor ickle David keeps coming second to whoever the unions tell their members to vote for.

    And that would be so terribly sad.

  130. 130
    Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

    And Lords Hamlyn, Sainsbury and Paul

  131. 131
    Steve Miliband says:

    He ain’t dead, so how can he pay IHT

  132. 132
    Yellow Dave says:

    Don’t hit me!

  133. 133
    Al says:

    The BBC’s bias aginst the Tories is now more blatant than ever. It’s time for Cameron to deal with them.

  134. 134
    Milliband D says:

    I keep telling you

    I do not want to be the leader of a bunch of thugs…

  135. 135


    No wonder we concentrate of reforming the world – no hpe at home.

  136. 136
    Vidal Sassoon says:

    I shall be holding a fringe event today

  137. 137
    Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

    Nor is it beer and sandwiches anymore – now it’s 5 course meals and fine wines with odd fact finding trip to Bangkok girlie bars thrown in

  138. 138
    jgm2 says:

    I’m undecided about the NWO conspiracy thing. But some of the commentators on there are full-on Ickean in their lunacy.

    WWF is a front organisation for genocide in Rwanda? FFS.

  139. 139
    Equity Fund says:

    When the BBC blacks out the Tory Conference

    Dave should announce its break-up and privastisation…

  140. 140
    Ed Moribund says:

    Bring out your dead

  141. 141
    One law for them says:

    Whats wavy davy going to do about it though?

  142. 142

    David Milliband’s new job is to keep Hilary Clintons goop chute warm during the winter.

  143. 143
    jgm2 says:

    I thought Bob preferred Cuba. Where the Maximum Leader himself once bragged that even the prostitutes had degrees.

    Hot and cold running whores for Bob. Because nothing’s too good for the workers.

  144. 144

    No – Ed prefers Jaffa.

  145. 145
    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Dunno , Ask him ?

  146. 146
    Fat bastard smoking on the couch for money says:

    Like all politicians he’s a scrounger

  147. 147
    Tony Fat Cat says:

    The Radisson lad

    Only £ 150 quid a nite

    On the expenses of course…

  148. 148
    Mr Ned says:

    In asserting his middle of the road credentials, he claimed he was his own man and is sick of the red Ed label and is determined to redefine the centre ground of British politics.

    Note that he never said he was of the centre, but he wanted to redefine the centre.

    This means that according to Ed, the loony left is the new centre. I do not think that he can redefine hard-left socialism as centre left politics.

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    they are rocket scientists around here says:

    because Ed rhymes with Red

    and because a majority of unions members supported Ed since he was the only one who could beat David whom they depised
    even though everyone knows they would have preferred Balls Abbot or Burnham

    your logic is flawless

  150. 150
    Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

    Derek is a Bangkok man – perhaps he was researching terms and conditions or helping to resolve a demarcation dispute

  151. 151
    lol says:

    The Miliband brothers: Red Ed and Yellow Dave.

    Hardly the Krays, are they?!

  152. 152
    loony lefty libcons says:

    Has he attacked Capitalism yet ?

  153. 153
    Unsworth says:

    Miliband D has been told quite clearly by the Unions that if he doesn’t contest they’ll ensure he can have whichever shadow post he wants, or they’ll help his other ambitions. Meanwhile his consort remains enraged – so they’ll have to do something about keeping her happy, too.

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    Read this and weep or laugh(you decide) says:

    “David Miliband is favoured by many to become the next leader of the Labour Party if, as is widely expected, Gordon Brown is edged out following a likely Conservative victory in next year’s UK general election. His refusal of the EU job may therefore be a political calculation as much as a personal one”

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    Road Runner says:

    meep meep

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    Tin Foil Hat Watch says:

    Undecide in the same way Atlantis and UFO’s are undecided?

  157. 157

    The difference between this putsch and the Bolsheviks, of course, is that when it comes to storming the Winter Palace, Ed and co. will prefer to slowly undermine the palace with waves of bad legislation and overpaid functionaries.

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    D Miliband says:

    Back to the bananas then.

  159. 159
    Woodley, Simpson, Serwotka and Crow says:

    It’s payback time!!

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    The Communist Coalition says:

    I hear they hate capitalism and plan to attack it in a big spee… oh right!

  161. 161
    Industrial blenders for T*ories says:

    same old slimey tax cheating T*ory bastards looking out for the rich.

  162. 162
    jgm2 says:

    Now all we need is one of the fuckers discovered in Manila and we have the full guide to fat, middle-aged western men’s choice of sex tourist destinations.

    Perhaps the TUC could do a ‘Rough Travel Guide’ thing for TV like that ugly, gangly Scottish clock-stopper

  163. 163
    Sleepless in Kirkaldy says:


    Living in Edinburgh, I thought they were just invading here judging from the waistlines and accents. Their money is welcome.

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    Hague will be sweating today and without the aid of a Spad for a change says:

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    Potkettle says:

    Actually they are better left operating.

    Its a bit like TASS in the USSR, you know its commie crap so you can watch it and laugh and the more they lurch leftwards the more Joe Public recognise the bias.

    The Daily Mirror is a good example. even blue collar workers laugh at thier politics and realise how unsustainable the labour spending plans are.

    On the beeb news this morning they were trying so give air time to the lunacy that is bribing people to diet, yet almost every email/text the show got told them its barmy to bribe the fattys

  166. 166
    Ron E. says:

    they’re so thick they think calling the tories toffs will win them the election

  167. 167
    Ahmadinejad at UN says:

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    Red Vince says:

    Don’t mention it Comrade.

  169. 169
    labour and bbc hater says:

    Though I am still reluctantly paying the license fee I have booted out the tv and replaced it with an iMac with a big screen. Rarely do I watch English TV.

    However last night I switched on the BBC evening news and it was quite simply Labour Broadcasting Corporation. All about their new Dear Leader and endless guff and comment about LABOUR. Labour and the BBC now seemed to become ONE AND THE SAME!!

    How the heck can Cameron let this blatant affront to democracy go on? What about the rights of all those millions who quite frankly detest this odious, self serving, borderline criminal organisation? We can switch off but do we not deserve to at least get some proper news for our money?

  170. 170
    White Van Man says:


    D Militwat has just given a speech in Manchester to the mongs that his brother is a special person and went on to call him a special person five times!

  171. 171
    Andrew Efiong says:

    I’m SO loving this.

    Rats in a sack!

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    The Unholy Trinity says:

    I’m the Labour party. Like all politicians I’m in it for the power and the money. But I give the poor a bigger cut.
    I’m the Conservative party. Like all politicians I’m in it for the power and the money. But I give the rich a bigger cut.
    I’m the liberal party. Like all politicians I’m in it for the power and the money. But I don’t give anyone anything.

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    jgm2 says:

    ‘Unconvinced’ would be more accurate.

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    Gaygue Spadding in the USA says:

    well we know Hague won’t fucking do it since she is technically female

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    jgm2 says:

    And that’s why he rides in the short bus. Like John Prescott on his election campaign.

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    Anonymous says:

    Did the tax dodgers win it for Dave? We never got an answer to this question.

    I don’t understand why people who doesn’t live in this country or pay taxes in this country gives money to conservatives.

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    All mongs together says:

    special needs person,or in laymans terms a mong

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    Billy Bowden is the greatest umpire ever ! says:

    Red Ed will be as sucsessful as Labour list

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    augustine the hippo says:

    Reminds me of a ‘Not the Nine O’Clock News’ – some union men are having a meeting and stop for a drinks’ break. Mel Smith asks everyone what they want. Everyone else wants a tea, and he says, ‘And I’d like a coffee’. Sending the bloke out to get the drinks he counts the people in the room and says ‘That’s 1.3 million votes for a tea and 1.7 million for coffee, so coffee it is!’

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    Susie says:

    If I’d been voting, mine would have been ‘soiled’ as well.

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    you're not laughing as hard as I am chum says:

    He’s a rat as well as a nazi ?

    The real question isi will Comrade Cable annexe Clegg in a blitzkrieg ?

  182. 182
    Afghanistan Banana Stand says:

    I live there

    …. and yes, ok, it’s the sheep….

    Anyway, the Yanks will only be in my neighbourhood for 3 days, then they go back home empty handed.
    It’s a long way to come for nothing…

  183. 183
    the beast of clerkenwell says:

    like William Hague
    Hair today gone tomorrow

  184. 184
    The Miliband Brothers says:

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    Sleepless in Kirkaldy says:

    I almost feel sorry for some of the more sensible ex-ministers. The lived through the unelectable 80’s and 90’s, compromised long held beliefs to win power, shovelled sh**te for 13 years hoping for a political legacy, and now all that is washed away as the children take over and rush off back to becoming unelectable again.

    Like I say, almost sorry.

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    Wonderful Wonderful Copenhage says:

    For some years now the environmentally conscious union boss having a mid-life crisis has had the choice of patronising one of the UK’s many off-street brothels where Sex-Workers Of All Nations have been brought in to service all his needs, courtesy of a blind eye from New Labour’s useless Border Agency. There is no need not to be Green AND sleezy.

  187. 187
    lolol says:

    lets just check the polls

    level with the tories

    yep! they’re dead

  188. 188
    Susie says:

    Perhaps Lord Ashcloud would buy it… that’ll teach them :-)

  189. 189
    Shoey says:

    I read that as soiled, even that wouldn’t surprise me.

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    Afghanistan Banana Stand says:

    They probably think Newport is a suburb of Edinburgh!

  191. 191
    Ron E. says:

    how right you are


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    jgm2 says:

    Even if you live in Bristol Wales is still a long way to go for nothing.

  193. 193
    Doh says:

    How about ‘unintelligent’?

  194. 194
    Lucky Luciano says:

    The reason is buried away in what corporations are owned by who via multiple names

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    Mr Ned says:

    They only elect people who can serve in the shadow cabinet, but not what posts they will serve in. It is up to Ed, what departments they actually get. He can easily isolate the Blairites in unimportant departments and promote the left wingers to senior posts.

  196. 196
    MI7 says:

    Why are you paying your tv license if you don’t have a TV?

  197. 197
    TG says:

    What will ‘Yellow Dave’ Miliband do if he leaves politics? He’s never done anything else in his pampered, miserable life.

  198. 198
    Jail the Blairites says:

  199. 199

    Thanks for the advice. Not going to take it.

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    (Hideously) White Van Man says:

    brilliant so if you are a member of the majority underclass ie white inner city and despised by Liebore’s Oxbridge toffs er does this make Liebour more attractive?

    Vote for the snooty Commie immigrant

    I think not.

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    scouse twat says:

    And this is directed to who?

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    Sleepless in Kirkaldy says:

    Avoiding is illegal. Minimising is legal. He was minimising I would like to meet anyone who wouldn’t have done the same thing in his position – because I could make money from that person (a fool and his money are easily parted)

    Of course the BBC are saying it is dodgy. But they would, wouldn’t they.

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    scouse twat says:

    now its moved from the bottom to the top

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    Up sh1t creek says:

    All hail Gordon Brown, he “Saved the world” from economic collapse. It must be true, Alistair Darling said so in his conference speech today.

    The fact that Labour went on a 13 year public sector spending and borrowing binge, nah, that never happened. Hell, it was “The right thing to do” to borrow money in the supposed good times and carry on the public sector splurge.

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    MI7 says:

    “Undecide in the same way Atlantis and UFO’s are undecided?”

    Oh yes there’s no such things as UFOs. Out of the billions and billions of stars in our galaxy which is one of billions and billions of galaxys that make up the universe which could actualy be just onf of billion and billions of universes that make up the multiverese (although that’s still only speculated), earth is the only planet to have developed humanoid life?

    And everyone who’s ever seen a ufo, photographed and filmed them accelerating from 0-3000mph in under a second and doing right angle turns at 5000mph which break all the know laws of physics and not to mention all the former millitary and astornauts that have gone on record as having seen advanced and non-man made technology over military bases and while in space are all deluded?

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    Anonymous says:

    You believe in polls?


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    Mr Ned says:

    So they never report anything other than labour at the labour party conference? That is normal.

    It used to be a “gentleman’s agreement” which existed between the parties that each party would allow the other parties their week at the conference to have under an uninterrupted media spotlight.

    The tories and lib-dems still follow this tradition. Brown broke this tradition by flying into Iraq for a photo-call during the tory conference in 2007.

    I shall not take blanket coverage of the labour party conference as evidence of bias, unless the tory conference is ignored or coverage disrupted by strike action.

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    Grumpy Old Man says:

    Probably for similar reasons why Labour accepted donations from foreign nationals with dual nationality who eventually got their hands on steel-workers pension funds.

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    Anonymous says:

    i went to uni in glasgow so a lot of my friends are lefties.

    most of them see the need for cuts and are angry at the massive waste, as well as the requirement to pay huge taxes to support the idle (a normal 3 bed flat in glasgow has a council tax of £1200 – 1800 p.a.). it isn’t really “progressive” to tax waitresses, shop staff and bar workers 22% + council tax to pay for someone else’s flat, rent, benefit, prescriptions, transport etc. etc.

    they all support the welfare state but can’t abide by the massive corruption inherent in it: both things like able bodied, degree educated people claiming they can’t get a job and being given grants, a flat, tax free life (i.e. the people who won’t work if they think it is below them) and the corruption in the local government, housing authority, education, housing association etc. – why does the local primary school have audi RS4s and BMW M3/M5s parked in the staff carpark?

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    namecalling as a serious political strategy for the next four years says:

    Wouldn’t expect you to.
    Namecalling is fun if admittedly pretty childish.

    Calling the tories toffs must be why Brown won.
    Oh that’s right! He didn’t. And that ‘strategy’ was killed off very quickly.
    Still the ‘Red’ strategy did at least work against Blair? Didn’t it ?

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    Sleepless in Kirkaldy says:

    They just hope that the public will think Ed looks grown up the first time they see him in long trousers

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    Anonymous says:


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    Susie says:

    If I was a fatty and wanted them to keep bribing me, I’d just use the money to buy more chips. Sort-Ed innit?

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    Mr Ned says:

    I think he will stay in the shadow cabinet and try in vein to pull the party to the right. This could be the start of an even longer political sulk than Ted Heath’s.

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    Sheila says:

    Another brown-eyed mullet, eh ?

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    Colonel Blimp. says:


  218. 218
    Colonel Blimp. says:

    OR – Jaffa joose, my life already, Oy Vey?

  219. 219
    tory boys never grow up says:

    Denham supported Ed Miliband. So much for your pontification.

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    Mr Ned says:

    He cannot represent the poor, hard working white working class when he is an upper class, Jewish communist toff.

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    jgm2 says:

    Ned will just promise free unicorns and endless spending for all.

    Just like Br**n before him.

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    Grumpy Old Man says:

    “I’m the Labour party. Like all politicians I’m in it for the power and the money. But I give the poor a bigger cut” Yup. Removing the 10p Tax band was one hell of a cut for the poor. Saved £2.7 Billion for “investment” though As I remember, it allowed Labour to maintain middle class bribes,(sorry, benefits)
    there’s hypocrisy, then there’s the Labour Party.

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    Baron Kinnockio of Europe says:

    Bob Crow shits on the labour party.

  224. 224
    Ray Dorset says:

    Aright, alright, alrighty-righty-right

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    Cato Street Conspirator says:

    I really am surprised that Mr Fawkes is so concerned that the Blairite D Miliband lost the election. I never saw Mr Fawkes himself as a Blairite. I wonder what he’d be finding to write if the said D had won? ‘Oh, it’s the return of the Blairites. Labour has learned nothing.’

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    Afghanistan Banana Stand says:

    Bristolians can stay on their side of the bridge – we really don’t mind.

    “Oi can’t read & Oi can’t write, but Oi can droive a traaactor.
    Oi support Bristol Roverrs”

    Allright moi luverrr

  227. 227
    labour and bbc hater says:

    Unfortunately you still need a tv license to watch live content – even online on the internet apparently. Actually much better solution than a regular tv – no additional boxes, cables and wires.

  228. 228
    Amongomous says:

    Kick,punch,headbutt,stamps on bollocks

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    tory boys never grow up says:

    Anyone had a look at what has happened to Impellam share price, as well as the ownership of its shares, since the General Election? So Lord Ashcroft what did you as an owner of a outsourcing company dependent on Goverment contracts see as so attractive in David Cameron being elected to power?

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    industrial benders for labour says:

    Ye god Mr straw i thought you would be sucking up to or bits of yer new master not posting on here this is a political blog you should be sticking to the propaganda ones like the bbc/liebourlist/grundion/ferret world [thats presssas blog]

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    jgm2 says:

    I reckon Ned is actually a safer choice for Labour. Because Dave would be hostage to all those torture enquiries and, what, exactly, were you doing in cabinet while the Maximum Imbecile was burning all the money Dave kinda questions.

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    Amongomous says:

    yeah,it’s utter bullshit,now fuckoff you odourless fart.

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    Juan Kornetto says:

    Evasion is illegal.
    Avoidance is legal. Such as not buying cigarettes or having an ISA.

    A decade of nulaber spin may have blurred the line for some, but the above is the true state of things.

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    The shade of Dr David Kelly says:

    Ed says the days of new labour are over.

    I will have my revenge.

  235. 235
    Creme Brulee says:

    Our cover version is better.

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    Anonymous says:

    Surprise to see Guido supporting Blair and wants a Blair poodle as labour leader! Until now I thought Guido believes Blair is a scum-bag.

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    Gordon Brown says:

    I would like to make it clear that calling that bigoted woman in Rochdale a bigoted woman was no sense name calling, it was progressive.

  238. 238
    Creme Brulee says:

    By the looks of him, more like monkey sp*unk.

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    correct says:

    backfired pretty spectacularly didn’t it?

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    13eastie says:

    Calling the Tories “toffs” didn’t work because:

    a) It was the Labour Party itself that did the name calling and organised the top-hat costumes: they tried far too hard

    b) Everyone knew Labour had just as many public school boys on the front bench as the Tories

    Red Ed has already stuck because it’s come from the MSM, it is based on the utter truth that, although most of the membership voted against him, Red Ed was pushed in by the union block vote (8 % turnout).

    That he is called “Red Ed” is probably the only thing most people know about him.

    It will be his undoing, because, after this year’s dress rehearsal at BA, Unite and the rest will wreak deficit-denial-havoc once the coalition spending review is implemented.

    Continually linking him to his other truth, the Labour cabinet’s collective responsibility for Brown’s economic catastrophe, will help nicely too…

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    tory boys never grow up says:

    Mr Ned

    Of course Mrs Thatcher wasn’t a gentleman and was free to go off and do all sorts of stunts during the Labour Party Conference e.g. 1980 Trip to Yugoslavia (gave a major speech) 1981 trip to Bahrain/Kuwait/Australia (gave a number of major speeches), 1982 trip to Canada/USA (gave a number of major speeches), 1983 – unveiled plaques at Regents Park Memorial to victims of the IRA bomb, sppech supporting Cecil Parkinson and had the deputy PM of Iraq to lunch. I could go on – but the reality is that attempting to spoil the otehr party’s conferences has been around for a long time. I think even Macmillan (a much underrated spinner) indulged.

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    Ed Flag says:

    Fawkes is just the catalyst. What he says is entirely irrelevant. It’s the comments that people come here for.

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    tory boys never grow up says:

    What is unfortunate about it – I know Tories like getting something for nothing but most people do not like freeloaders. Better to pay £147.50 a year for all the BBC than £600+ per annum for all the dross diched up by Sky I say.

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    tory boys never grow up says:

    Is that Will or Jack I should add to my many identities?

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    tory boys never grow up says:

    And why should that be – yesterday didn’t belong to you and tomorrow never will either – and in the meantime may I suggest some medical treatment for your paranoia.

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    scouse twat says:

    I just got back from my local co-op, the only shop near me. They have put 25% on everything, so that’s my TV license fee never getting paid, a case of having to do it.

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    stilyagi_air_corps says:

    Oi! Spe-chiul!!

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    Ben says:

    You’ve either misunderstood a political reality or are misrepresenting the situation.

    Ed isn’t dependent on the unions. He doesn’t need anything from them – at least, no more than any Labour leader does – because he’s been elected. He’s never going to have to do that again. There’s no mechanism through which they can withdraw their support and unseat him.

    He might owe them one… but they can’t make him return the favour.

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    Kris Battenberg says:

    A co-conspirator of mine informs me that the emotional blackmail sponsored by GMB was even worse than slapping Ed’s face on the envelope with a cross in a box…

    “I got the voting slips in the post from my Union, along with a very long letter telling me precisely why I should vote for Ed Milliband and Ken Livingstone. The tone was very much akin to “Of course, this is a free democratic ballot. However, we would advise you to think before you vote, and vote for Ed and Ken who are just great guys, and you’d sort of be betraying us in a way if you don’t do this, because thinking about it, Ed and Ken love us and love you, and they’d be terribly upset if you didn’t, it’s almost like not voting for your own father in a way, you wouldn’t consider that would you, etc. etc. etc. blah blah blah, tedious emotional blackmail”.

    Some people I know were able to vote three times, and received separate letters informing them of this happy fact. Democracy eh?

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    jgm2 says:

    Longer even than G*rd*n Br**n’s?

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    namecalling as a serious political strategy for the next four years says: says:

    Toffs didn’t work because it was seen as subtle as a brick and an obvious cheap smear tactic.

    But this is a sophisticated tabloid attack is it ?
    I can see that by the way it rhymes and the way everything is coloured Red. The public is bound to think he’s Arthur Scargill in no time with such cunning tactics.

    Blair was called Bambi for a few weeks if you remember. Before they tried the socialist demon eyes to great landslide effect.

    If David-M was elected they would play up his share of the union membership vote too so lets not pretend this has any deeper meaning than a throwaway attack line that always gets trotted out.

    The point is will it be effective ?
    Unless he goes even further than Comrade Vince Cable and proclaims Caitalism a dead system while yelling for a national strike it’s not going to be taken very seriously by the voters.

    The tabloids and dead tree press just don’t have the Power they used to as Mr Fawkes usually never tires of telling us.

    Blaming the last guy will also never win an election as Obama knows.

    Splits are a cancer in any Party.
    That’s what killled New Labour and it’s what will kill Ed-M unless he acts fast. It’s also what killed Major and Thatcher before him.

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    You get Sky News for free.

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    Imp says:

    The problem for Ed Milliband is that Britain is actually quite evenly balanced between left and right wing politics.

    When any party veers too far from that line they become unelectable (at least in recent years).

    New Labour won because they shifted to the right, they made themselves viable (at least for a while) and it wasn’t just those on the left celebrating as we all know when they swept to power in 1997, after the tedium of John Major anything looked exciting by comparison.

    And yes, the unions did indeed rig the vote, but what his electability might come down to is actually rather more simple than the fact the party may swing to port – it’s because he looks like a rather unattractive nerd/geek, not that I am suggesting that leaders should be judged on demeanour, they generally are to some degree- he has none of the presence of his brother and just.. well, looks and sounds feeble. He also has a wet voice, with a noticable risp when he givef fpeechef…

    He just doesn’t look the part, not strong enough presence, he looks too much like the person who should be sorting out the IT backstage.

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    Leaders Lead says:

    So is Cameron Lord Ashcrofts puppet ? Or whoever the largest donor is now ?

  255. 255
    O Wilde says:

    You’d need a heart of stone not to laugh!

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    All Lib Dems are tossers says:

    I think he meant to say special needs person White Van Man.

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    Parp says:

    Solidarity between your ears, more like.

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    namecalling as a serious political strategy for the next four years says:

    Have you even seen David Cameron ???
    And I don’t mean through rose or blue tinted glasses.
    He’s no fucking adonis my friend.
    Dave was slammed as a lightwieght too so that’s not going to fly either.

    Ed’s geeky but David was far geekier and the front bench of all three parties is mostly a carnival of the grotesque.

    If there was an election next week you might have a point but Cameron was no more experienced when he took over and neither was Clegg.

    Ecnonomically the centre shifted to the right socialy it’s moved to the left with Cameron embracing the NHS, welfare state, gay rights, education, multiculturalism etc. Ken even seems soft on crime now.

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    tory boys never grow up says:

    Believe it or not some of us do not spend all our time watching 24 hour news.

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    john in cheshire says:

    Guido, I believe that communists and socialists have been destroying things for over a century. I think it is important to remind as many as possible who they are and where they reside. Surely, after USSR, no one in their right mind would knowingly vote for a communist of a socialist. Would they?

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    Amongomous says:

    New Labour fucked the economy the same way Old Labour did,so someone tell me what the difference is between these two piles of shit.

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    annnnnoyperson says:

    Meaning that some Labour members, in effect, get TWO votes. Ah! Democracy in action! Doncha just love it?!

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    Anonymous says:

    The line of blackmail from the unions won’t be “we’ll kick you out as leader”, it’ll be that they won’t give the labour party as much money if Ed doesn’t do what he tells them.
    In that sense, it’s no different to before, and is the same situation with any labour leader.
    The labour party is dependent on the unions, both in terms of money, and in terms of votes (and in terms of vote-rigging; sending instructions on who to vote for to people with the ballot itself is obviously vote-rigging, not just “advice”).

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    Comrade Vince Cable says:

    Would they vote for a socialist communist anti-capitalist ?

    You tell me ?

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    TaT the mental case says:

    tat will happily eat piles of shit

    but then he is a total nutter

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    he wouldn't let it lie says:

    not much point in reasoning with people when weasels like Tat start shitting all over the blog and attacking again
    expect far more of the same back at the little cun’t soon

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    Anonymous says:

    “New Labour” say that they didn’t do anything wrong, and the economy’s just fine.

    Ed’s “We’re not new labour” Labour say that they didn’t do anything wrong, and the economy’s just fine, but that they need to listen more to the leftmost side of the electorate who didn’t bother turning out to vote because they didn’t like the spin of brown/blair.

    Ed still doesn’t admit they’ve ever done anything wrong regarding the economy, he’s just trying to convince people that he’s going to spin/bully/smear/lie a bit less than brown/blair, but that’s also a crock of shit because nothing’ll change on that front either.

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    Anonymous says:

    I was in the Electricians union ( now unite ) when I was a apprentice for three years.
    I was sent a voting form for the labour leadership ballot, which I thought was odd being that I have had nothing to do with the union for twenty five years.

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    Outposter says:

    Currently passing a few days in Malaysia, I watched the BBC TV World news today (on a satellite channel) with a local colleague who asked me in all seriousness what was so important to the world about a minority party in England electing a new leader that the BBC had to spend the first ten minutes of the broadcast on it? He understood when I explained to him that the BBC was not what he thought it was, but was actually the propaganda arm of the Labour party – hence the wall to wall all-day coverage of an event that was of no conceivable interest to [most of] the rest of the world.

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    C.D.Player says:

    Paul Macartney is also rumoured to be re-releasing his Band on the Run (from the taxman?) album.

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    Great Granddad says:

    On a scale of one to ten (1 being Foot and 10 Kinnock) I would reckon him to prove a resounding three.

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    13eastie says:

    Red Ed no longer needs the Unions, but he’s already tainted by them.

    During the next 12 months, public sector (and former public sector e.g. transport) industrial relations will go into meltdown over spending cuts.

    First, Red Ed will be reminded constantly by the Government that he played a full role in a a Labour Cabinet that created the debt and deficit and made the cuts inevitable. He will be labelled a deficit denier.

    Second, once any public sympathy for the unions evaporates (holiday travel fiascos, rubbish uncollected, low-paid soldiers just back from Afghanistan standing in for the fire brigade) Red Ed will have already painted himself into a corner of support for the strikers.

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    Gosh Boyle says:

    I suppose being called ‘Red Ed’ is a bit better than being called ‘Dick Ed’ or ‘Knob Ed’
    Young Ed could always dye his hair red and be called ‘Red Head Ed” thus cornering the carrot top vote.
    With his new red mop he could reform “The Red Ed Headed League” of Sherlock Holmes fame.
    He could demand being called ‘Mister Ed’ as there is a slight semblance of the talking horse.
    Perhaps he could be ‘Simply Red Ed” now that Mick Hucknall has retired the band.
    Maybe ‘Ethel Red Ed” could land him the transvestite vote!!
    Sorry folks just been one of those days!!!

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    Anonymous says:

    I like to think of the millimuppets as Dedward…………….

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    Kris Battenberg says:

    I don’t think Ed Miliband’s a Union puppet, as has been stated, he’s already won the leadership, he owes them a drink but he has no obligation to be their dogged, slavish supporter now he’s got it.

    I was merely highlighting the humbug that went on in the Labour leadership election.

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    Susie says:

    Yes he’s saving up to buy the BBC…

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    Unsworth says:

    No, daytime TV is about your intellectual limit.

    So, people who are not ‘Tories’ don’t like getting something for nothing? Of course not. They’d much rather shell out their cash on fucking everything, wouldn’t they?

    What a fucking moron.

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    Unsworth says:

    Thatcher! FFS! You guys are really living in the past. Are you that fat cow Jo Brand in drag or something?

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    Susie says:

    Special needs person White Coats Man more like.

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    Susie says:

    And he’s got a squint.

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    Susie says:

    I know they’re blood-sucking vampires Mr Ned, but it’s ‘vain’.

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    annnnnoyperson says:

    That was how Wilson upset the trade union leaders in the 1960s. They got beer and sandwiches, they wanted fine wine and top nosh!

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    tory boys never grow up says:

    Read the original post – Mr Ned referred to Brown breaking a “tradition”. Of course you may see as being pre-history and therefore not within the period covered by “tradition”. One other thing Mrs Thatcher said, and on this she was correct, was that she know she was winning the argument when her opponents resorted to swearing.

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    tory boys never grow up says:

    “So, people who are not ‘Tories’ don’t like getting something for nothing? Of course not. They’d much rather shell out their cash on fucking everything, wouldn’t they?”

    Not a logically correct inference from what I said – think about it. I notice your silence on the freeloader point.

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    Anonymous says:

    Namecalling – if it is true which it is – that he is red and a danger to this country – or in other words, speaking straight English is essential I think. If it can be funny as well then all to the good. Clearly it does work or you wouldn’t be on here moaning. Spitting Image worked too.

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    Unsworth says:

    Listen Mr Craphead, I’ll comment on what I want to – not on what you think you’d like me to. You know, think about it you moron.
    Now fuck right off.

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    Unsworth says:

    Resort to swearing? It’s the only thing you cretins actually understand. How far back do you want to go with these comments – Alfred the Great? How very convenient to simply ignore the utter shambles of the Blair/Brown fuck-up decade and indulge in diversions such as this. I couldn’t care less about this sort of nit-picking bollocks. Politicking like this has gone on since forever. Take a look at Gladstone and Disraeli, for example. Now to the real issue:

    These NuLab pillocks were elected, apparently to deal with the ‘monstrous legacy’ of the Tory years. Have they done that? Absolutely no. They’ve just pissed all our money away, involved this country in numerous wars with countless thousands killed and maimed, and simply lined their pockets. They were elected to sweep away sleaze and clean up politics, it is said. Did they do that? They are amoral unprincipled scumbags – as are their supporters. Are you one of them?

    And you seriously believe that Thatcher is the fount of all knowledge, her each and every word to be carved in tablets of stone? Maybe you do. She was – like everyone – sometimes right, sometimes not. Her comments about swearing were crass and, naturally, designed to deflect attention from the real debate and wind up the Lefties. The trouble with the Left is that they do what Thatcher was doing at that time – they always seek to control debate by controlling vocabulary. Unfortunately for them they’re not very good at it.

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    tory boys never grow up says:

    Typical Tory trying to assert rights that he doesn’t have. And not too keen on free speech either. Could I suggest ever so politely that if you cannot take it then you don’t try and give it out. You might find that a degree of humour rather than obsecenity might make your responses a little more effective. On the other hand you could put my name on the list!

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    Anonymous says:

    worked against Blair didn’t it ?

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    Bambi Blair says:

    he’s not moaning he’s calling it retarded and encouraging Guido to keep it up

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    Was it legal to be bombarded by texts emails and recorded phonecalls from Ed, via the GMB? Because I was. ( I voted for Dianne Abbott though.)

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    tory boys never grow up says:

    Perhaps one of the reasons why I got such high marks in my exams was because I read what others had said and stuck to the subject. If you read the original post it said Brown had broken the tradition of allowing parties to have an uninterrupted media spotlight during their conferences. I merely pointed out that there was no such tradition. Is this argument too difficult for you to understand?

    PS all these rants will not help your blood pressure.

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    Lord Asscraft says:

    Surely with all this press focussing on Labour it must be time for the Camerons to kill off / squeeze out another one of their ugly retarded offspring.

    And as the brood mare’s polluted womb is recovering from hosting the last one I guess they’ll have to off the middle one

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