August 21st, 2010

BREAKING : Elliott to Lead No 2 AV Campaign
Standing Down From Taxpayers’ Alliance

Tomorrow’s Sunday Times will carry the news that Matthew Elliott, founder of the Taxpayers’ Alliance, has been headhunted to run the No-2-AV campaign.

From the beginning of October, Matt Sinclair will take over the day-to-day running of the TaxPayers’ Alliance and Eliott will stand down as CEO to concentrate on the new, yet to be officially launched, campaign.

Assuming the enabling legislation passes in September the campaign will then kick off in earnest to determine the outcome of the May referendum. Pollsters and punters make the No-2-AV side the underdogs, and there was some disquiet that opponents of the Alternative Vote system didn’t seem to be getting their act together.

Elliott has the experience and ability to build a campaigning machine, he set-up the TPA in 2004 and after 5 years it become a fearsome media machine, with 55,000 supporters.

With the pro-AV campaign likely to be run out of Cowley Street, or at least by LibDem proxies, it seems wise to choose someone who is not a Conservative Party figure, not least because he will have to win Labour and union support for the campaign as well as keep some of the more ambivalent Tories onside. The aim is to assemble the strongest, broadest based campaign possible to oppose AV regardless wider of ideological differences.

Elliott took soundings before taking the job and has been assured that, despite the Coalition, Cameron will not be neutral on AV.


308 Comments

  1. 1
    Gone Fuckin mental says:

    Good , I like fptp its done us ok so far

    • 4
      Gone Fuckin mental says:

      I have heard that AV is the most unfair version where some would 2 votes and others just 1 , I think the best way to sort this is make voting compulsery and put a “None of the above” option on the ballot

      • 23
        Cameron wants to keep the Coalition together so he's hobbling the yes campaign says:

        proof Cameron secretely wants AV to go through thus keeping Clegg and the coalition together by putting a virtually unknown fringe figure of no national political stature or national political experience in charge of the no campaign

        would you seriously put someone who had only managed to persuade a tiny group of 55,000 followers in charge of a campaign that needs to persuade tens of millions unless you wanted it to fail ?

        • 24
          Cameron wants to keep the Coalition together so he's hobbling the NO campaign says:

          FFS

          • "a fearsome media machine, with 55,000 supporters." says:

            Even Raoul Moat has over 50,000 supporters and he’s a dead psycho

          • You can always take one with you says:

            If only he’d shot an MP, he’d be up for beatification.

          • Herr Comrade Herman von Rumpy Pumpy, zer Kommandant der EUSSR, unt zer Master of zer UK arschlochen says:

            Ha! das schwanzlutscheren der GB!

            Her ist meinen order! Do NOT zer war mention!!

            Instead, you must zay how you hav by zer Glorious EUSSR been conquered!

            Unt to me you must homage pay.

            Unt lay orf zer CamerHoon, – he ist meinen toad stoolen pigeon!

            Unt support any trick to make zer ignorant Britishers more fuckable by zer EUSSR!

            Ha!

            Ha!

            Ha!

        • 84
          Backwoodsman says:

          FFS, TA has more credibility than any of the politicians or their parties !
          Virtually every story you see in the msm criticising government waste, has been fed to them on a plate following research by the TA.

      • 66

        Agree with @Gone Fucking Mental

        Voting should be compulsory with a “None of the above” box. Still not convinced on AV and would prefer to see PR added into the mix as well.

        Glad to see that they are looking at making the constituency sizes more equal.

        • 80
          ED-209 says:

          I doesnt matter a hoot, about the voting system its the eligibility rules that need changed to stop these jobs for the boys MP’s being thrown at constituencies.

          You should have had to live in the constituency for a minimum 5 years to qualify as a candidate.It is after all those people you are meant to be representing, not your party paymasters.

          Many peoples choice at present consists of a Labour public school boy who has never worked or a Tory public school boy who has never worked.

        • 151
          Anarchist says:

          Compulsary voting? Fuck off skidmark.

      • 77
        Dack Blog says:

        Make voting compulsory and I imagine we’ll have a Labour Govt for evermore.

      • 98
        Non Voter says:

        No law will make me vote.

        • 257
          Osama the Nazarene says:

          I will always vote even if its to put a cross against all the candidates and so spoil my ballot.

          • cant hunter says:

            I wish there was a General Pinochet-type to vote for. I have come to enthusiastically hate all our parasitical politicians for what they have done, and are still doing , to this nation. I would gladly ignore the possible personal self enrichment of a Pinochet, just as long as he sorted out, ruthlessly, the various impediments to national stability. I see that Cameron has been able to earn £70,000 a year for renting out his modest loking Notting Hill house. Thats more than twice as much as most people earn in a year.

          • Osama the Nazarene says:

            Good for Cam. If a naffing nancy boy footballer can get £70K a week I see no problem with Cam renting his abode for this amount but annually. Its a free country and he is entitled to make money legally just like anyone else!

      • 172
        bandersnatch says:

        Even better if there was a ‘write in’ option for your own suggestion.

      • 195
        I'm not Labour, but I don't 'alf fancy a shag with that Aussie bint says:

        “I have heard that AV is the most unfair version where some would 2 votes and others just 1″

        As Uma Thurman said in Pulp Fiction “They say a lot don’t they?” The fact is, you heard wrong! Suggest you use your internet connection to inform yourself properly.

        FPTP has done us ok so far? News to me… it gave us Nu fucking Labour for 13 years.

    • 15
      Anonymous says:

      “Good , I like fptp its done us ok so far”

      Lol!

    • 305
  2. 2

    Excellent, excellent, excellent.

    • 40
      WorkingClassMyArse says:

      “Working Class Tory” thats an oxymoron right?. Unless you are Dave of course.

      • 45
        Grumpy Old Man says:

        Ask any one of those C2 self-employed tradesmen who voted Tory last May. But then the upwardly mobile working class always were class traitors, weren’t they?

        • 48
          I am Sick says:

          ZaNu types hate anyone who escapes their clutches and makes something of themselves. What socialists want, is a poor working class, unable to think or act for themselves and permanently beholden to them and their Union minders.

        • 53
          Not a LibLabCon party tribalist says:

          Perhaps C2 self-employed tradesmen said ‘fuck the lot of them’ like a lot of other Britons.

      • 64
        Martha Carnal says:

        WipeMyArse…..Justamoron.

    • 57
      concrete pump says:

      Calm down Phil, you’ll pull something.

    • 125
      Blog tapper says:

      go and get your own hits you.

  3. 3
    Gone Fuckin mental says:

    But Labour always said the TPA was a tory group , They wouldnt have been lying would they ?

    • 168
      Welcome to Mongland d*rive carefully on your way to Wales says:

      that TPA spaz has got toryboy stamped across his smarmy face.

      • 259
        Osama the Nazarene says:

        Billy Hague is the original Tory Boy, but he’s grown up into a fine politician.

        • 274
          cant hunter says:

          Have you seen the pictures of Hague in today’s Mail? Baseball cap, trainers, dark glasses; what a bloody apology of a politician. I have never forgotten, and will never forgive, baldy Billy for stating during an election tv debate that a Tory government would do nothing to halt the east european invasion of the UK, and ease the consequent effect on Uk unemployment. And if the Tories think that a burgeoning economy is going to do anything for the employment prospects of UK nationals, then that shows how bloody cocooned they are. If a firm wants 20 -30 people to fulfill new orders starting the week after next, then the jobs will mostly be put out to agencies with east european workers ready to hop on the next euroline coach.

          • Osama the Nazarene says:

            Mr/Ms Hunter I kind of agree with you but do not see how Tory Boy Billy can solve your problem on his own. The problem you raise is much less politicians directly but employers. Employers will always seek to minimise their costs and so will seek all sorts of stratagems to employ the cheapest labour. Your problem is a cosequence of our membership of the EU and Billy is not going to be joining UKIP in the near future.

            As for these worldwide labour shortages which employers are bleating on about, why do foreign workers have to have the right to settle? Why can’t they come in on short term contracts with a duty to train British workers?

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  4. 5
    pp says:

    I assume that setting up the TPA was done on a ‘principle’ basis.

    Is Matthew Elliott doing ‘No 2 AV’ on principle or as a head-hunted stooge?

    If it is on principle, I look forward to hearing his own personal arguments for his position.

    If he is just a stooge – fuck him.

  5. 6
    Cameron Hates AV because the cunt can't win a majority as it is AV would fuck him up bad says:

    So Matthew Elliot, the founder of the Taxevaders Alliance is going to head up the No to AV campaign.

    No to millionaires paying tax! No to AV!

    This motherfucker sounds like the bastard son of Ian Paisley FFS.

  6. 7
    up Rs says:

    4Q lame cock-sucker.

  7. 8
    Gordon Brown says:

    I will make a statement to the house at 17.30 and lay the goverments plan and detail how this will affect normal politics .

    The reforms i will set out will bring change to the country , It is the right thing to do .

    The referendum will offer 7000 choices of i can not list any until we have the results of the consultation which when then have to be reviewed and considered at great length with my cabnait .

    Further to the review i will set up a working group to study the reviews findings and effects every option , I will then apoint a independent Lord to review the review of the findings of the consultation , I will then report back to the house .

  8. 9
    Gone Fuckin mental says:

    And as we are talking of reform how about a English parliment ? Wales has one , scotland has one and even NI has one .

    • 43
      Tessa Tickles says:

      England has one, too.

      It’s in Brussels.

      • 173
        The Golem says:

        Too right, Tessa. Westminster is the biggest, most expensive John Bull Stamp Kit the world has ever seen.

    • 138
      English Parliament?? YES PLEASE!!!! says:

      @9: Exactly. To deny the English their own Parliament is part of the plan to make England a stateless nation. Regional assemblies, as promoted by ZNL, were a way of destroying the World’s first nation-state, backed by Brussels.

      ZNL and the EU want to deny the English the right to self-determination.

  9. 10
    Gone Fuckin mental says:

    The other thing to discuss ( if anyne wants to ) is Labours stance on this , Will they stick by there manifesto or wil they oppose for the hell of it ?

    I fuckin hate Labour but we do need a effective oppo ( i know Labour effective = Oxymoron ) , We must not let these fuckers get away with half of what our Tone did before most woke up .

  10. 11
    Tim Lovejoy says:

    Hi , My names Tim Lovejoy and i am a legend and i am for the change in voting system .

    I dont know why but the BBC said it was good .

  11. 12
    Just asking says:

    This is from the sunday times ? Aint they behind a paywall ? Or do you get it for free Guido?

    And why nowt on the mail story about unpaid expenses ? or is that coming ?

  12. 13
    • 49
      Dorian Smith says:

      Shouldn’t you be fundraising?

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11049538

      Better get a move on or it won’t be “Labour 4 ever”.

      • 127
        South of the M4 says:

        Appears Jabba advocates for his party that which he denies his country needs whilst both suffer the same malaise. If he had a brain he would see the paradox.
        Moreover, If 37% of the voters had a brain they too would see it. Still hard for me to understand such stupidity.

    • 190
      Yardarm says:

      Raise some of the money by privatising the Treasury. Outsource the work to an accountancy firm, doesn`t matter where, do the work online. Fuck the chair polishers off down the Job Centre, statutory mimimum redundancy payment. Flog or lease the Treasury building as corporate headquaters or an embassy.

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  14. 18
    The voice of reason says:

    Let’s put that whole expenses saga behind us, and get back to Punch and Judy politics.
    You know it makes sense.

  15. 28
    Anonymous says:

    Imagine all the false promises AV can bring knowing full well that
    there is no intention to deliver and even less accountability.
    ………And Punch and Judy politics is much more fun to watch.

  16. 29
    Gone Fuckin mental says:

    Politics – How easy would our life be without them and there type

  17. 30
    The Ender says:

    This blog is dying.

  18. 32

    AV’s no bloody good to me anyway – after choosing ‘None of the above’ as my first preference, how can I then choose one of the useless buggers as a second?

    Now if they’d just leave me alone, tax me only as needed and not pass any more stupid bloody laws to stop me being British in my own land, I’d be happy – but with 4.8 trillion of liabilities this country’s screwed and no amount of tinkering with the voting system will change that fact, and no party that would actually try to solve the problem could ever be elected by the people whose pensions would suffer.

    We need a ‘No2ThatSortOfThing’ campaign – an umbrella organisation to campaign against every government initiative that doesn’t address the d*bt problem explicitly, with the associated ‘No2Boxtickers’ campaign aimed at reducing the public sector payroll as far as possible, ‘No2Rumpy’ to address the EUSSR problem, and ‘No2Sanity’ to help those affected by Labour ideology.

    • 42
      Can't remember my moniker says:

      I detect a tension in your position which can be set out thus: You hold that dealing with the debt problem should be addressed as the main priority (I completely agree). The difficulty becomes the “tax me as needed” bit because every man jack (including woman jack/ baby jack/those-who-are-not-sure-jack) would have to chip in £78,000. The time that this would take to claw off us would be inordinate, WITHOUT the need for interest to be added. Interest rates cannot stay at near zero for ever. To treat money as if it were worthless becomes the final recognition that our fiat money system is unsupportable and we need to go back to a bartering system, failing which theft by the strongest becomes the natural state of nature.

      Now I say the above, coming from an area where the VAT equivalent ranges between 19% to 23%. AC1 will tell us that this is theft, to which I have some sympathy, but the only thing that is going to make any impression upon the debt is government sponsored theft and VAT happens to be the most effective at revenue raising. Take Germany where mehrwertsteuer is 19%. Their economy grew at its fastest rate for more than 20 years from April to June. Of course, they manufacture to the extent that our few remaining stars such as Sheffield Forgemasters and JCB could not hope, by themselves, to match. Yet here we are dithering about whether to delay the announced VAT increase in case it throws us back into recession. But the fact is that “the growth” that we are seeing is a chimera because of the “ha-ha-ha investment” that was so favoured by Brown is keeping this illusion alive. So we are expending a lot of hot air in the media and political circles just to keep his already expired, putrefying and stinking economic corpse on life support.

      The whole thing is like trying to organise an air cushion. Push one bit in and another bit pops out.

      • 46
        Grumpy Old Man says:

        Seconded.

      • 50

        I agree – VAT is, to me, the fairest tax because you can choose to pay it or not depending on your need for non-essentials – if you want that fancy imported plasma TV, then be prepared to pay extra for it, because that’s the fairest way to collect the required cash.

        One big, big difference between Germany and the UK is that German manufacturers usually have several engineers for every accountant in the boardroom, while in the UK the situation is reversed – it’s fine knowing how to cook books, but it’s more important to make good products that people want to buy, and that’s where they beat us hands down, despite the ingrained union representation culture that exists there.

        £78K each? I’m sure it’s not just our country that is in hock for that much – I wonder what the real picture is in Europe when these pension liabilities are added into the mix? I’d guess the French are nearly as badly off as us, with the Spanish not far behind and the Italians spectacularly producing two sets of books as usual.

        • 56
          Can't remember my moniker says:

          On National Debt, we are only outflanked by the likes of Bejam, or whatever they call themselves nowadays. But our debt figure of 4.8tn, which sweeps in all unfunded pensions, NHS, etc., includes elements that even the southern/Latin countries cannot aspire to.

          However, our situation is only the start as we are looking at National Debt on a per-capita basis. On top of that the average citizen has personal debt, in the form of mortgages (not-so-typical in the rest of Europe) and unsecured debt on credit cards and the like. I saw a figure for the latter category some years ago which was north of £50k then. Bundle this all up together and it makes the USA look like a Presbyterian thrift society.

          It is the equivalent of missing your road junction to the extent that, not only can’t you afford the petrol just to get back to it but the car will fall to bits beforehand too. No country has done it quite like the British, it would appear.

        • 72
          Grumpy Old Man says:

          Don’t impugn the German unions. They don’t fight class wars, they don’t use strike action for political purposes, they do co-operate with management and owners to get the best deal for their members commensurate with economic conditions. So unlike the stalinist idiots running our unions.
          I venture to suggest that it doesn’t matter which professions are in the board-room. If they confine their thinking to their own specialisation, the business will fail. The British motorcycle industry is a wonderful example of producer-led catastrophy.

        • 82
          We are fucking mongs says:

          Be good if we made the fancy TV.didn’t we invent it.

      • 85
        We are fucking mongs says:

        You don’t have to be strong to stab someone in the back,politicians have been doing it for a century now.Fuck giving them more chances.Its barter for me

      • 115
        Willie says:

        Just remember that there are two good reasons that German manufacturing is doing well. The first is the trade union law that was instigated by the British Military Government after WW2 (one union for one industry) and much more recently the weak Euro that keeps German manufacturing competitive. A reintroduced DM would have catastrophic effects.

    • 73
      Wake up Mongs says:

      They are not trying to fix it.

    • 75
      Grumpy Old Man says:

      ……‘No2Sanity’ to help those affected by Labour ideology. Surely you mean, “No2INsanity” for Labour Looons?

      • 90

        I had heard that Ed Balls’ next wheeze, should Labour have been miraculously reelected by postal vote, was to introduce a ‘No2IQ’ campaign to the nation’s schools, in order to promote equality and a future fucked for all.

        But that may all be a nasty rumour – I hear Ed Miliband’s spreading a few at the moment…

  19. 33
    Gone Fuckin mental says:

    The real problem is those that dont vote coz they think mps are lying two-faced arse fuking thieving eu slaves .

    Its about time the MPS gave something back *.

    Including Expenses , a real apology and then a leap of beachy head

    • 70
      Non Voter says:

      Now that this government has begun its whitewash of David Kelly they too are involved in his murder. Textbook suicide my arse.Kill them all.

    • 180
      Imagine John Prescott without Bulimia says:

      No, the real problem is those blindly loyal enough to vote for a party regardless of the candidate

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  21. 35
    I hate that twat Lovejoy ! says:

    Lovejoy is a fucking loser !

    Nice Tutu batty boy

  22. 36
    I want to bum sarah jane mee from sky says:

    What a way to be greeted when turnng on the news

  23. 37
    I want to bum sarah jane mee from sky says:

    http://vimeo.com/14294990

    A intresting bunker video

  24. 38
    Anonymous says:

    I see the Labor party say they won the popular vote

    How very Labour ……………………………..

  25. 39
  26. 41

    I’ve been reading this as “Number 2 AV”
    DUH!…

    • 47
      Can't remember my moniker says:

      Me too! Must be chaps of a certain vintage, Admiral. Timed at seven bells in the morning watch.

      • 51

        May I propose a new campaign – ‘AV is a load of Number Twos’ – surely a tagline recognisable across the nation and even as far as Barnsley!

        • 60
          Can't remember my moniker says:

          Barnsley, Ay op lad! That may be a step too far – although, with the food they eat up there, number twos are more like log cabins.

    • 54
      Best of both worlds. says:

      Same here. Not a good start is it and who is funding them?

      Can’t see why they oppose AV anyway. I would like to have a second choice, it means I can vote both Tory and UKIP.

  27. 52
    Shackle Dragger says:

    Good to see that socialist Welsh Sheila come unstuck in the Aussie elections. Who the fook wants to be goverened by a Welsh wind bag?

  28. 55
    Peter Hitchens says:

    A homeless person punched me in the face this week
    He was first in the queue

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1305026/PETER-HITCHENS-These-beggars-helpless-casualties–black-eye-proves.html

    • 62
      Anonymous says:

      Peter should get back in his time machine and go back to the Edwardian era,the silly twat!

      • 76
        Peter Hitchens says:

        “In to” you uneducated oaf
        Your use of profanity to make a point does not show you in the best of lights
        Probably an adolescent product of the failed prizes for all socialist educational experiment

    • 69
      Twatwatch says:

      Fucking stooge should have been punched into the future,the next world.

    • 116
      Drama Queen says:

      I wish someone would punch that fat slob of a brother of yours.

    • 119
      Not Homeless says:

      notice he doesn’t say why.bet the Hunt said something to provoke it

  29. 59
    Gordon Brown says:

    I will make a statement to the House in five minutes. Right after mummy lets me have a fizzy orange. She says I’ve been a good boy and deserve a fizzy orange as my reward. I bet the leader of the opposition, Mr Cameron, isn’t allowed any fizzy orange. And he has to live with his wife. Yuck! Girls are yucky! I live with my mummy and she tells me I’m the greatest. Yay!

  30. 63
    SplishBack Liebore says:

    Sploot.

  31. 65
    Barcode says:

    Hitler finally makes his move.

    • 108
      Phil says:

      Speaking of Adolph I’ve just watched the El megrahi downfall video on vimeo by Tom Harris courtesy of Iain Dales blog. Its the best bloody belly laugh I’ve had all week.

  32. 67
    Mr Politically Incorrect says:

    Morning windowlickers and anonymongs. Where’s Sarah Beard today? Is she in Canterbury? Or is she in Killcuddles?

  33. 68
    Not many people agree with Nick anymore...including it seems his own party says:

    Sunday Times(would give you link but I’m not paying for on-line access on principle) reports that Cleggie not to front “Yes” Campaign on AV Referendum as LibDems fear that they will lose and that if he leads it…it will fatally wound his credability(?) with electorate and harm their chances in any subsequent general election……………surely they haven’t already conceded defeat ??

  34. 71
    Charles Kennedy says:

    I’m not defecting to Labour! That story is so ridiculous, I laughed so much it made me spill my drinks.

    • 93

      Now now, Charlie boy – you know you’re being retrained to drink pints and kiss whippets, and for fuck’s sake cover that ginger mop with a flat cap or something!

      We’ll unveil you as our new William Hague if David Milimossad wins ;-)

  35. 74
    Do not feed the Mongs says:

    Morning mongs.Still trying to tell the bankers,oops you think they are politicians,how to fix things.back to sleep now.

  36. 78
    Maybe Guido should retire this blog as it is so shit now compared to what it used to be says:

    This blog used to be good but now it is shit.

  37. 86
    proverbial says:

    the electoral options should be more that those on offer. This is supposed to be a means of providing more electoral scrutiny, democracy and representation. Yet we are only offered the government options when there are others available…we can have democracy and representation so long as it’s their version of it. NOT GOOD ENOUGH

  38. 87
    Charles Kennedy says:

    10,000,000 beer bottles
    Standing on my wall
    10,000,000 beer bottles
    Standing on my wall
    And if one beer bottle should accidentally fall
    I’ll pick it up and down it.

  39. 101
    99 says:

    99 red ballons

  40. 104
    tattyboy the battyboy is BrokeBack Cameron is Bullingdon Dave says:

    I wuv you Gordon! Sploot for me up my bot bot!

  41. 105
    Anonymous says:

    Ah good, another night of drunkeness has passed without me making a tit of myself on the blogs .

  42. 111
    Adrian aged 13 and 3 quarters says:

    Dad.Is it true we were governed by gangsters who murdered Dr Kelly and now the new government are covering it up for them?

    • 118
      South of the M4 says:

      The new government are covering up, and continuing with a lot of the wrong stuff the last government did. My advice to you, don’t be in the UK in the UK in another 13 years and 3 quarters.

  43. 113
    David Laws says:

    God its shit living with your gran, she just made me eat porridge saying it will stick to my ribs and make me shit all the crap out.

  44. 121
    Dr David Kelly says:

    Don’t forget me, lads. Don’t forget me.

    • 130
      The veil has fallen says:

      If you had been found with 6 arrows in your back this government would say it was the worst case of suicide they ever saw.

    • 142
      The ferryman says:

      “I felt very, very sorry for David Kelly and the way he had been treated by the government… I had every reason to look for something untoward and would dearly love to have found something,” the Home Office pathologist said.
      Now if that’s not scripted I don’t know what is

      • 167
        Can't remember my moniker says:

        Brings a whole new meaning to textbook.

        • 179
          bandersnatch says:

          Well, Dr Nicholas Hunt (or was it Michael) who did the PM said it was. Hmmm… Mandy Rice Davies to that… No medical records. Embargoed…
          As convincing as Gerry and Kate McCann.

      • 282
        Government spokesliar says:

        We always put a gagging order for 70 years on a suicide. I swear.

  45. 128
    Scams R Us says:

    @0 million Joes are flooded,but 316 million has been raised. thats around 15 million each.

  46. 129
    Scams R Us says:

    20 million Joes are flooded,but 316 million has been raised. thats around 15 million each.

  47. 131
    That much is clear says:

    Can I just say that my take on Ed Milliband is that he is a bumbling idiot who is getting propped up by the unions as they believe him to be the most pliable and easily manipulated of all the candidates. That much is clear.

  48. 132
    Peter Hitchens says:

    Please read the Sunday Mail today
    A homosexualist Vicar is getting “married” to a cross dressing male Nigerian dress designer who is 40 years younger than himself
    And my beloved church wonders why nobody bothers to turn up anymore
    Rowan Williams is probably doing the flowers
    What a f****** shambles

  49. 134
    The Prime Minister says:

    Today I am taking a short break from my holiday to tell you about AV. Since my new friend Nick and I have got together, I have realised that having a cosy, all party coalition has enabled me – us – to push forward out progressive agenda.

    This has alienated traditional tories who feel they are out of touch right wing dinosaurs. A bit like my back bench MPs.

    The middle classes, too, feel let down that they are bearing the brunt of our progressive taxation system, which involves milking those who can just about afford it, while allowing those who feel that working for a living is not their choice of lifestyle to get even more money and encouragment to reproduce.

    There are difficult choices to be made, and Nick and the liberal democrats are doing a sterling job in making those choices for me. AV will mean we can continue this new progressive agenda, and I know you will suport Nick and I in this. You can trust us. We both went to good schools. Enjoy your sunday. Thank you.

  50. 137
    Bob Crow says:

    Socialism will prevail, comrades!

    Right. I’m off to my villa in Spain for a few weeks.

  51. 140
    • 150
      Poly Twaddle says:

      You are wrong to concentrate on the minor excesses of the last government and clearly by doing so you are ignorant and a racist. You should focus on the important things like reporting your neighbour for a race-hate crime.

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    L is for Labour, L is for Lice says:

    • 193
      Anonymous says:

      A chilling premonition of the fate that has now befallen us.

    • 229
      send in the clowns says:

      Ironically Enfield is another luvvie Labour supporter, and this piece was probably produced to mock a kack-handed Tory propaganda film of the 50′s. Kinda got lost in the translation didn’t it, and is horrifically prescient.

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    Gordon Brown says:

    Look mummy!
    No hands, weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee…

  56. 163
    thickguy says:

    Know what? When I read the headline I thought it was “The Number Two Alternative Vote Campaign” Got totally confused

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    ADAMS says:

    FPTP crap. AV crap. LibLabCon crap . interesting that the Con-Dems are giving us a referendum on something that nobody wanted or asked for .
    Their spin version of democracy I surmise . just give us a referendum for capital punishment being introduced on anyone who has been an MP for more than ten minutes .

  60. 181
    Anonymous says:

    “Elliott took soundings before taking the job and has been assured that, despite the Coalition, Cameron will not be neutral on AV.”

    He’s fucking neutral on everything else, so why stop there?

  61. 182
    The Chief of wheat says:

    Argue all you want. But bread at 3 quid a loaf will bury the Tories for ever.

  62. 183
    TaT's Gone Fuckin mentals psychiatrist says:

    You are suffering from Tatphobia.A morbid fear of Tat posts

    • 184
      tat expert says:

      tat no longer posts on here, you’re the fucking mental one!

      • 186
        TaT's Gone Fuckin mentals psychiatrist says:

        and you need specs,read it and see it refers to another poster and tat was Thick as Thieves who still posts.so fuck off self appointed tat expert mong.

      • 189
        streamfisher says:

        I blame the advent of facebook and twitter and the pedlars of disinformation you can’t post about an issue any more without being accused of something you are not (or are). Tat the celebrity blogger, who fucking cares?

      • 204
        Lord Tat of Westminster says:

        nice try Tat clone,you would all be surprised who TaT is ,wouldn’t they Fawkes? So eat shit Tat loving mongs,and yes I do have a big following on facebook,so be nice or I;ll bring my mongs over here and blitz the site for a few weeks.

        • 212
          concrete pump says:

          Thanks for proving my point.

          Wanker.

        • 241
          Posting chump says:

          get a job layabout.

        • 247
          sell us a brick ar gwan sell us one says:

          yeah right. Your never off the site, a quick search and time stamp check has you on here 24/7,your a prick,on the tit.

        • 278
          belly sore with laughing says:

          Bollox buyers are expected to go out and check what they are buying ,not sit on a computer clicking on ebay/cement/bid

        • 286
          Trained Negotiator says:

          Half a million a year? *uck me. What do you do after Monday each week?

        • 289
          Triffid the dozy twat says:

          So you take honest John the Cat salesman’s word.trust me governor this dozer will start every time without sure start.

        • 297
          Head Lizard says:

          Its Tat winding you up pump.

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    Can't remember my moniker says:

    On the issue of AV, I like breasts.

  64. 188
    Lord Prescott.I always voted Tory says:

    What idiots would elevate me to the upper house when I am obviously a two faced tory agent

  65. 191
    Gordon Brown says:

    Can I have my fizzy orange now, mummy? They’re all waiting for me to make my statement to the House.

  66. 194
    Gordon Brown says:

    I’m off to Cape Cod to get some Cape cock.

  67. 200
    youboob says:

    This thread is dead. Time to post an entirely inappropriate vid.

  68. 203
    Di Anne Flab Bott does some exercise says:

  69. 206
    That's 900 acres now says:

    I have just snaffled a nice chunk of acreage under adverse possession, the system works heh heh heh.

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    Gone Fuckin mental says:

    Lets just cut to the chase and hang the fuckers

  72. 221
    Noncing Matilda says:

    One of the thousands of new sites run by…….the public.ha ha ha your days are numbered
    http://www.levi-tarot.co.uk/pedophile.html

  73. 223
    Gone Fuckin mental says:

    Genuine question , Can anyone point me to a country where socialisim works ?

    • 225
      schizo says:

      no,can anyone point me to one were capitalism works?

      • 226
        Gone Fuckin mental says:

        Has it ever been given the chance to work ?

      • 236
        Anonymous says:

        Hmmmm, let’s compare the standard of living of 1950′s America and the USSR and China shall we? It’s only now that both of those failed socialist states have all but abandoned Marxism, that their people are starting to enjoy a higher standard of living, and not dying in their millions!

        • 239
          Whoop whoop bullshiter alert says:

          Bullshit. Outside of Moscow and other cities like it its still shedsville.

          • Anonymous says:

            I said they’re starting to enjoy a better standard of living you fucking twat. It’ll take many decades to undo the damage of rampant socialism.

          • AbleTheSpace Monkey says:

            True, the Russian people still haven’t thrown off the socialist mindset, and are drowning in corrupt bureaucrats.

            Here is a UK expat relating the hurdles put before a business trying to get a warehouse built in Russia, it boggles the mind. Its a Eurocrats idea of heaven:

            http://www.desertsun.co.uk/blog/?m=200906

            China appears simply to have welcomed in the economic culture of Hong Kong, and let it flourish on the mainland. Bureacracy has stood aside and let it happen. It would not be possible in Russia.

      • 246
        P. Mandevilson, the Eminence Greasy says:

        Capitalism; the lesser of two evils.

        Ask those who lived in Stalinist USSR of Kim’s North Korea.

    • 228
      jesus fucking christ you're boring says:

      Didn’t you ask ANYTHING in school you fucking moron, in future E mail your questions to Blue fucking Peter.

  74. 230
    Uncomfortable thoughts are not believed.theres a word for that says:

    If 6 of your child’s school friends all died in school in one week would you take your child out of the school.?
    If 6 of your workmates all died at work in the same week would you demand it looked into?
    So why when 6 soldiers who handled missing nukes all die in the same week is it not suspicious.
    http://www.legitgov.org/minot_afb_nukes_oddities.html

    • 234
      Bankers says:

      we have the nukes,thats why governments keep giving us all your money in phony bail outs

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    Yes it is says:

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      Anonymous says:

      Ah yes, the Cordoba Mosque. Couldn’t be more blatant if they had called it ‘The Fuck You Kafir’ mosque.

  77. 240
    The internet is finito says:

    “News”.enter
    Result
    About 5,060,000,000 results (0.16 seconds)
    All saying the same thing.

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      if you've had black, you'll never get it back says:

      What time is it if your motorcycle seems to take off all on it’s own?

      Midnight.

  79. 250
    SpunkBack Labour says:

    Top Boy is Bullingdon Dave is a bot boy. Sploot for me, Gordon! I wuv you!

  80. 251
    P*aki says:

    Help hegurgle

  81. 253
    ArseCrack Liebore says:

    Top Boy is a Bot Boy. Sploogey splooge, Gordo!

  82. 254
    Gordon Brown says:

    I’ll be cack.

  83. 255
    Where's tattyboy the botboy? says:

    Where’s BrokeBack Cameron?

  84. 256
    Jacqui Smith's hubby says:

    Tonight I shall be watching an explosive action film for adults only. The Sexpendables.

  85. 258

    Take Back Parliament is running the YES campaign. It is non-partisan, single-issue and being run out of Cynthia Street. We are happy to welcome anyone should they wish to affiliate to us, but we cannot affliate to them. The NO to democracy campaign would love to paint us as a LibDem front.

    http://www.takebackparliament.com/

  86. 261
    Mad, Bad & Dangerous Gordon McRuin says:

    My latest $ 100,000 speech.

    http://tinyurl.com/39ajh2a

  87. 262
    Kath says:

    Im the new PM

  88. 264
    MI5 says:

    Question is :

    Is Guido going to take over as boss of the TPA ???

  89. 268
    Jeremy Clarkson,oh I am says:

    I wish I was on top gear playing 5 a side smashing up 10 new cars at the license payers expense

    • 276
      sly and the gang says:

      I’ve forgiven Clarkson everything for this bit of prose he wrote about Mandelson, so you can fuck right off.

      “I’ve given the matter a great deal of thought all week, and I’m afraid I’ve decided that it’s no good putting Peter Mandelson in a prison. I’m afraid he will have to be tied to the front of a van and driven round the country until he isn’t alive any more.”

  90. 271
    Gordon Brown says:

    Do ya love me?

  91. 273
    Confucius says:

    What do you get when you deal with the septics?
    Robbed.

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    Blue sky, green grass and some fine girls ass says:

    Nothing will come from the Kelly inquest, it is just being brought up as a silver bullet to keep Labour from rocking the boat or they’ll be put down with it, of course Labour are stupid but not that stupid so they will keep quiet for a decade and as i said…..nothing will come from it, the truth wil still be eluded unless Labour go completely batshit insane and then the Tories decide to drop the nuke and blow it all open .

  93. 298
    Whooooooo says:

    You’d think the way western governments are bowing to every whim of the Muslims that they already have a nuke they have secretly threatened to set off.

  94. 302
    Colonel Blimp. says:

    ….and now for some flight relief…………..

  95. 304

    It is like musical chairs one moves they all move round, wonder when it will be Dave or Nick’s turn!!



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