Labour’s Happy Left Turn
Peter Mandelson warned recently that the leadership candidates were abandoning the successful tenets of New Labour. He got no thanks for it. Mandy can see that the majority of the Labour Party is in denial – Alastair Campbell actually denies Labour lost the election – and the party is lurching to the left as a consequence.
The leadership election illustrates the point; Diane Abbott is unashamedly of the hard-left, Andy Burnham says he is a socialist, Ed Balls is a deficit denier, Ed Miliband spouts meaningless nonsense “I pledge to ensure that we are a party of women as well as men” and left-wing clap-trap non-stop as he gloats about the burial of New Labour. Even Blairite David Miliband is talking left.
All good news for those of us who want to see the Labour Party become electorally irrelevant. That Labour’s membership numbers are apparently rising as lefties return is great news. They’ll demand that Labour “fights the cuts” when only a few months ago Labour was planning £50 billion of cuts. Blairite realists will be condemned as “collaborators”, they’ll accuse life-long liberals of being reactionary Tories. They will demand Labour Party support for, and solidarity with Unite strikers wrecking people’s summer holidays. Good news for those of us who want Labour to become the irrelevant third party. Guido is certain that many Labour activists will enjoy themselves far more in opposition…
So, what, there’s no option of arguing against the actions of this government form the Left, no? No option to protest the unnecessary, ideologically-driven depth and speed of the coalition’s cuts, no?
The narrative of Labour returning to the loony left , a la 1979-1983, is tempting I’m sure, but even the hysterics on this blog would be hard pressed to convince anyone that it is true.
Simple facts are, the neo-liberal economic policies pursued by new Labour helped to lead us into this mess. Neo-liberal economic policies which the Conservatives were constantly pressing to see implemented faster and wider. So, there is ample room for a sane and appealing critique from the Left.
Well, yes there is. Let’s hear it. At the moment many on the Left still seem to think that governments can create money where none existed before. Simple question – how do we pay for stuff?
1. Tax everybody until the pips squeak.
2. Borrow lots more money.
3. Avoid wasting money, so that we can afford what we really need, or
4. Hold hands in a circle and wish very hard?
Labour, especially under the likely winner – Milliband specimen D, cannot even do 4. now, if you judge by the rhetoric.
The riffraff no matter how clever don’t have the connections. but they get the best drugs
*sniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiff* Top hole!
1. Return troops from Afganistan and Iraq.
2. Stop all international aid
3. Stop funding the EU
4. Cut corporation tax
5. Buy lots of Exxon shares immediately
6. Legalise and tax all recreational drugs
7. Free further and higher education for meaningful tradea and professions
8. End all welfare payments and NHS treatment for non-UK citizens
9. Kill and feed anyone with the prefix of ‘sir’ or ‘lord’, or suffix of ‘MP’ or ‘MEP’ or ‘MSP’ or ‘MLA’ or ‘AM’, to pigs.
10. Abolish government
Very reasonable,but Blair and his wife would survive under this plan.
You don’t find many ‘Sirs’ who are benefit claimants. Many Lords, now, sponge off the state.
I know. I just dont like you. Its my revolution so fuck you Sir.
Labour Lice – good point! Ex holders of those prefixes and their spouses are now included.
Suffixes, even.
Comes down to the old addage – Conservative Party = shopkeepers, Labour Party = shoplifters (or in mandlepoofs case, shirt…etc)
I get paid by the State yet do sweet FA.
There are two differences between me and the average benefit claimant: I have more class and get much more lovely cash!
Ker-ching!!!!
are you standing for parliament?
Great stuff! 10 would be impossible though, government hirelings possess 99.9% of the guns in this minor off-shore province.
Even better if the Labour Party was proscribed.
Field is a lefty,hows Blunkett The Tories are not right anymore.
Nice try Guido but you are clutching at straws.
Good to see you are following the propaganda rules though:
Propaganda rule number 4) accuse your enemies of your own failings.
The Camerloons are the loonies, they are one bunch of crazy motherfuckers! They are pushing through, with no popular mandate and no majority, policies that are going to ensure they are a one term administration. They are masterminding their own demise FFS.
That’s as crazy as it gets.
The Camerloons make the Loony left look positively sane.
“but you are clutching at straws”
Yes maybe but he’s got you and the rest of Campbells bitches on his site winging all day instead of saving the liebour party and their great plans for the natio/ sorry themselves lol haha !.
Enjoy your one term administrationm, Camerloon.
And just think, you have David Cameron and Andy Coulson and Steve Hilton to thank for it.
Oh, and I think Campbell is a war criminal who should be hanged so your point is, well, pointless.
Pardon? You mean to say they are doing what they think is right rather than what they think will win them votes? Good heavens, they are fucking bonkers!
There’s that pretentious word again, “critique”, in a hotpotch of leftie drivel.
> No option to protest the unnecessary, ideologically-driven depth and speed of the coalition’s cuts, no?
Nope. The spending was ideologically driven by economic imbeciles.
Economic Rule #1 – When you pay for something you get more of it (demand creates supply).
Corollary #1 Cutting the subsidies for problems (HINT the dysgenic “welfare” state), makes smaller problems.
There are proper third way policies (Georgists) that avoid the failed policies of direct rent seeking of labour by the Marxists, and the indirect rent-seeking of Conservatives via property, that would have avoided the last crash that was regulated into existence.
“So, there is ample room for a sane and appealing critique from the Left.”
Indeed there is room, very true.
What there is not, is the capacity of the current oxygen thieves in the Labour party to deliver it.
The more insults thrown at us on the left from representatives of the scissors brigade like yourself can only be a good thing I say!
They are lurching to the left because Cameron is and if they lurch far enough Dave will offer them a job like Milburn or Blunkett.
Yes, yes keep it up.
Lefties love opposition, it removes them from practical decision making and the realities of Government which allows them to wallow in ideological purity.
With a bit of luck they’ll return to their leftist gospels, the authors of which cannot be criticised, and begin the internal feuding over split hairs which has characterised the left for over a century.
Yep, good luck with that.
Splitters!
Talk about splits, you splitter. You were the one who split the Davids.
whereas the labour party seem to concentrate on splitting each other. Another choirboy gordon…?
Frightful aren’t they?
Not strong independent voices like you with your tongue up Dave’s arse.
I’m getting very very confused. I just wish they’d all shut up and go away.
I’m going away instead – it’s easier and when abroad, not understanding the lingo, their homegrown fuckwitted MPs cant mess with my head. Wont be in the EU though….
No party that panders to our enemies will ever become an irrelevance.
The Coalition Government’ s honeymoon with the British public is all but over, a poll for the Daily Mail shows today.
As Prime Minister David Cameron prepares to mark his first 100 days in office next week, the survey finds that some of the shine has come off the Coalition, with 57 per cent of people describing its performance as ‘disappointing’
The Tories are down from 36 per cent at the election to just 29 per cent, while Lib Dem support has collapsed from 23 per cent to just 12. Labour are on 28 per cent, down from 29 at the election.
Yes and? How long till the next General Election? A week? Who gives a fuck about these crass statistics? What difference do they make to the realpolitik?
this period was as good as it got for Dave and his cheerleading poodles
it’s all downhill with cuts and tax rises from here on in
enjoy
and what will they tax?earnings?Business?who will pay who can pay.
Maybe they could tax printing money!
VAT ?
…….a poll for the Daily Mail …… ?
You bothered to read it?
Becky Rule has Lovely jugs. Ask Sarah McAuley!
have 91 pics of her.
http://www.fhm.com/girls/covergirls/becky-rule/gallery
Not bad, STA, I reckon.
So that’s 69% in total for liblabcon, leaving 31% for others. That is more than any one of the liblabcon…
A good start. Let’s hope we can build on this and show that there really is no difference between the three pro EU parties.
Shame that most voters could not see beyond these three at the last election.
Con 29% + 12% Lib = 41%
who said we will vote with you
what choice do you have to remain in power ?
Biggus – annoyingly labours voters will probably surge at the next election. as floating tory voters get a bit apathetic and labours core vote and recently redundant score a revenge vote. labour and lib dem coalition in 5 years may yet happen..
libLABcon = your 41% above + labour’s 28% = 69% What is your point about just liberal and conservative?
What utter shite. The situation was like that from the day of the election. The voters did not want any of the Hunts.Period.
Actually, the tories got more votes and a bigger share of the vote and a bigger winning margin over the other parties than labour got in 2005.
It is the massively biased seat boundaries that prevented a majority government.
At this election labour got fewer votes and a smaller share of the vote than John Major’s massive defeat in 1997.
From the votes cast, the tories were clear winners from this years election. If the seat boundaries had been biased in the tories favour the way they were in labour’s in 2005, then Cameron would be enjoying a 150+ seat majority now.
The tories have pledged to make the seat boundaries more equal. Wait for the labour squeals then. That will tell you all you need to know about labour’s feelings about fairness. They hate equality.
Clare has a very nice Quim
Is it wrong that I would still have a go? (Hooded of course..)
http://tinyurl.com/27tb9bl
I was a bit of a hood doing it too,I’m dead now though
The Blairite Labour party was never anything more than conservatives in cheap suits
The Blairite Conservative party was never anything more than Labour in expensive suits
The Camerclegg knob jocky party was never anything more than Nu-Labour in off the peg suits
But Labour acts as a safety valve, wasting the time of people on ‘the left’, keeping them out of real mischief. Be careful what you wish for.
I’m trying to forget the last 13 years when the Labour Party were kept in to do real mischief.
LIKE!
No:(
well, I look forward to Labour imploding further, then being broken further when theycannot raise any money…
As usual Guido you are quite right. I mean people going on strike – shouldn’t be allowed. No we should all doff are caps to the old Etonians in charge, clearly we just don’t our place. We’ve got ideas above our station – we should just let the ruling classes shit all over us.
What a lovely man you are….
…..we should just let the ruling classes shit all over us.
Where have you actually been for the last 13 years?
hoping you wouldn’t get back
You should have been trying to govern the country for the benefit of it’s inhabitants, not spending all your time in government trying to stuff the other party.
Not me Engineer. I have no party affiliations. I just detest the Tories. I don’t see a bunch of Old Etonians as being in anyway progressive. I know they hate us and will screw us, they always do.
I have no party affiliations either. I do, however, recognise that the country, and all it’s inhabitants, will be better served by a government that accepts the responsibility of balancing the nation’s budget. The last lot clearly failed spectacularly in that regard, so we have to look to others to correct the mistakes. If they do that, then it matters not a jot whether they are Old Etonians or not.
#LAUGHS!#
nell is also having a chuckle at that
You have no party affiliations? Then you deliver a classic ZaNu diatribe of class war shite. Yup, you be a truth tellin type alright. Shabby lefty liar.
“I don’t see a bunch of Old Etonians as being in anyway progressive.”
Thank fuck for that if this is where being progressive has got us.
Well I disagree. It matters to me that we have government blaming all our problems on the public sector. They’re taking their chance to dismantle it – providing much glee here.
Especially for the likes of “I am Sick”. Call me liar if you wish, the usual abuse many on here use when they can’t be arsed to put together a coherent argument. Class war? Easy to dismiss if you’re on the kicking side. But it will bite back. In time.
They’re not blaming it on the public sector, they’re blaming it on a government that spent far more than it earned.
It doesn’t matter how desirable it is, if you can’t afford it you can’t have it. Current government gets that, last one didn’t.
Someone hasn’t noticed, but progressive always ends with the country bankrupt.
Maybe that’s because progressive taxation is just about the fastest way of destroying wealth creation.
Quango, I also know that labour have a venal hatred of most of the people of the UK and spend all their time economically arse-raping them. They have only ever done 2 things for the poor.
1. increase their numbers
2. increase their dependency on the state.
From labour’s actions in power, they have proven clearly that they hate the poor even more than the tories do. They doubled their income tax whilst bailing out bankers with billions of our tax money for fucks sake!!!
Labour leadership contender Andy Burnham let the cat out of the bag when he said he did not want to see social mobility reversed. Considering social mobility has been in decline for labour’s time in office, a reverse would mean seeing social mobility increase. Labour does NOT want an increase in social mobility. They want lots of poor people trapped in poverty to vote labour.
Labour have NEVER left office with this country in a better financial state than when they arrived in power.
The tories have.
well well well the progressive conservative party,there’s an oxymoron for you. Both fuck the poor and the poor are becoming vast in number,you do know what happens when that happens don’t you?Ask any Roman
“”Quango, I also know that labour have a venal hatred of most of the people of the UK and spend all their time economically arse-raping them. They have only ever done 2 things for the poor.
1. increase their numbers
2. increase their dependency on the state.”"
I thought the Tories destroyed the mines, shipyards and industrial base in the 80s…..are you telling me it was Labour? At least they filled the void with lots of quality new jobs….or maybe the void was filled with poverty and depravation….oh yeah it was the latter
You think Labour needs to keep people poor to get votes…. what shite…..all they need is people who remember Thatcher, Howard, Tebbit etc etc etc
“I thought the Tories destroyed the mines, shipyards and industrial base in the 80s…”
The mines, the shipyards and most nationalised industry was running at a loss (remember the old joke in the ’70s – British Steel, loses a million a week?) because it could not compete internationally. The Germans and the Japs, in particular, were wiping the floor with us. By 1979, 45% of national income was spent propping up failed industry. All the Tories did was bury the corpse, and rescue the nation from insolvency at the same time.
“All the Tories did was bury the corpse” – no, they buried the communities that relied on the jobs and did nothing to help…..which sowed the seed for many of the problems we have today.
And I think you’ll find they are blaming the public sector – do you read papers? There mates in the press have done nothing but vilify the public sector for years, just increasing the intensity in the last year.
Quango (who clearly needs to be abolished in the next round of cuts):
“I thought the Tories destroyed the mines, shipyards and industrial base in the 80s…..are you telling me it was Labour? ”
Of course it was Labour you leftist idiot! Labour and their chums running the unions for their own personal benefit sufficiently destroyed the efficiency and competitiveness so much of British heavy industry that by 1979 there really was no future for much of it. Even after the Thatcher/Major governments, the decline is British manufacturing industry accelerated under Blair/Brown.
“You think Labour needs to keep people poor to get votes…. what shite…..”
If that is so, why does Labour keep creating more poor people?
Labour traps gullible people in poverty deliberately and then blames everyone but themselves. With the appalling standards of education (and the disgraceful political bias of large numbers of teachers), there are sadly many people who accept this garbage and keep voting for the donkey with the red rosette even although that donkey keeps kicking them. You are clearly a prime example of this.
Did nothing to help? Retraining, inward investment? Nissan, Toyota, countless others (huge paper mill, car engine plant and a substantial industrial estate of smaller businesses on a former steelworks site near me). You’ve fallen for a myth.
I used to live near the South Lancashire coalfield, all pits now closed. The mining villages are still among the more prosperous areas – well maintained houses, newish (and often quite expensive) cars outside.
They are not blaming the public sector – they are saying that you have to match spending to income. That’s all. If you can’t afford it, you can’t do it.
This anti-Quango is much too literate to really be a Labour supporter.
I expect its Simon Hughes having a wind up.
The taxation required to keep industries from bankruptcy destroyed more jobs than were saved in the failed nationalised businesses.
Government is an inefficient transfer agency.
To make one person rich it has to make another poorer.
Making someone poor, not only makes them less wealthy it also stops them investing in creating jobs.
Marxism is a cancer on the economy.
“old Etonians in charge”
Give me presclot to any old etonian he may have been a traitor to the working class but at least he never had an education.
Just think when presclot was abroad deputising for b’liar he was able to run rings around those educated foreigners. Tthey didn’t ignore him or treat him like an irrelevance, oh no, he was the center of global policy debate, they hung on his every word.
The Chinese are still the understated masters of subtely giving Prescott a PHD in global warming was an inside joke. Oh how we still laugh that he hasn’t realised it yet.
Indeed. Remember when the Chinese told him what to say at his speech to the special diplomatic buffet.
Read this Mr Plesclott. Will get you many big laughs.
“I am Chin-Tu -Fat. I am Tony Blair’s ” Dum Gai”.
I am happy to be here, Mai son. My speech be brief. I had trouble with ‘Pah King.’ {nod to ambassador}.
Now let us all go to our tables and do Mun Ching. After dinner I will produce a Stin Ki Pu. ”
{bow very low, facing away from Chairman}
Engineer says @ 6:51 pm~”they’re blaming it on a government that spent far more than it earned.”
When did goverment ever “earn”? They “take” the spending money from us.
monitor now needs a clean you twat
anyone got a Barret
I said he was a fucking Astor stealing a place in the lifeboat.
Fucking white square is back where the videos should be. Fuck sake…
It was probably a shit clip anyway but i’m getting increasingly fucked off with my computer not letting me be the judge.
Got the latest Flash & my CPU isnt struggling. What the feck is it..?
you’re shit
Don’t browse it in 64 bit mode.
download firefox,if you don’t have it.
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/personal.html
It will automatically notice the flash and ask you if you want to install it.
if you have firefox check tools.addons and see if Flash is enabled
Firefox is shit!
Google Chrome is the daddy.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/168623/browser_speed_tests_latest_firefox_is_faster_but_not_as_fast_as_google_chrome.html
Got Chrome, never any problems on this site.
John Rentoul has become known as an “ultra-Blairite”, both by himself and others, and has described having “slavish admiration” for Tony Blair.
Labour is the natural party of opposition. They spent most of the last 13 years telling the media what the nasty Tories would do and how nasty that would be – to the point where they forgot to do any decent governing themselves.
They have discovered something over the last decade. They have discovered that any fool can shout about leadership, but doing it is harder.
On second thoughts – we’ve discovered that they can’t lead. It hasn’t dawned on them yet.
Leadership is not a Labour Core Value
Nor is honesty, integrity or patriotism. Labour are all about hating those they disagree with, blind tribalism, class hypocrisy and incompetence of gargantuan proportions.
“I am middle class” – D. Cameron
Cameron is a direct descendant of King William IV and his mistress Dorothea Jordan. This illegitimate line consists of five direct generations of women on his father’s maternal side starting with Lady Elizabeth FitzClarence, William and Jordan’s sixth child, through to the fifth female generation Enid Agnes Maud Levita. His father’s maternal grandmother, Stephanie Levita, was a sister of Duff Cooper, 1st Viscount Norwich, Conservative statesman and author, husband of Lady Diana Cooper (daughter of the 8th Duke of Rutland) the actress and society celebrity. His paternal grandmother, Enid Levita, who married secondly a younger son of 1st Baron Manton, was the niece of Sir Cecil Levita, Chairman of London County Council in 1928. Through the Mantons, Cameron also has kinship with Alexander Fermor-Hesketh, 3rd Baron Hesketh, Conservative Chief Whip in the House of Lords 1991-93 and Treasurer of the Conservative Party from 2003.[nb 1] Cameron’s maternal grandfather was Sir William Mount, 2nd Baronet, an army officer and the High Sheriff of Berkshire, and Cameron’s maternal great-grandfather was Sir William Mount, 1st Baronet, Conservative MP for Newbury 1918-1922. Lady Ida Matilde Alice Feilding, Cameron’s great-great grandmother, was the daughter of William Feilding, 7th Earl of Denbigh, a courtier and Gentleman of the Bedchamber. He is also a great × 4 great-nephew of Sir James Hanway Plumridge.
So, Cameron is related to John Julius Norwich (great author and historian, by the way) and his Dad, Duff (whose resignation speech after the Munich debacle in 1938 is generally regarded as the finest and most principled Parliamentary speech ever given).
What are you trying to prove? More to the point, why the heck does it matter?
Why are you so backward as to be so obsessed with “class”?
hypocrisy
Harriet Harman
Her aunt is Elizabeth Pakenham, Countess of Longford, and her cousins include the writers Lady Antonia Fraser, Lady Rachel Billington, and Thomas Pakenham.
two mongs make a right
Well quite. Probably why she doesn’t like to bring it up much.
I think we’ve got an outbreak of t(w)at.
So fucking what???
none of them are honest tory drone,they all robbed us.then the great british stupid elected them again
Thus the cycle continues; lefties break the country and go nuts for a decade or so whilst the Tories fix it. Then the Tories lurch too far to the right and Labour get back in for a decade, cue another bust and so on and so on….
Only difference this time? The Labour party is in very real financial danger, if laws on the Union donations become more restrictive say goodbye!
And good riddance to boot.
and then we will have a one party state,dream on Tory mong,death to you all first
Very real? Or just real? “Real” is an absolute, like “dead.” Something can only be real. There are no graduations. Try “serious.”
I seem to recall, it was not Tories lurching to the right at all what did for them.
It was Maastricht, the ERM debacle and the droning cone hotline PM. Labour got lucky and waltzed into number 10, almost unopposed. Major had run out of what little steam he had and just melted away.
ok seriously real man
I am the heir to Michael Foot and Gormless Gordon !!!
you are a loser and will humiliated in the leadership election as predicted long ago
This morning I had meetings with ministerial colleagues and others. In addition to my duties in the House, I shall have further such meetings later today.
we don’t give a fuck
Recking or Wrecking?
Correctked.
If I lurched any further to the left I’d fall off the cliff edge.
Who are you again ?
I saved the World !!!!
Mind you, your kids, their kids and THEIR kids will be paying the bills for that little escapade: some people call it Boom and BUST !
You stole my pension, you filthy thief.
Son of The Manse. Middle name – Prudence.
I’m sitting here, by the phone, waiting to be called back to Office.
It was clear that this would be the case.
I did make that clear.
…are we, by any chance, related?
Hoots, jings and help ma boab.
Well then, keep f*cking lurching.
No need for Labour to do naff all. The ConDem tossers are doing the work for them. 100 days in and people can already see the ConDems are shite. This time next year…………thrice shite!
I agree that people are going to begin to hate the tories and the liberals with a blood boiling passion, but to assume that they are going to switch to labour???
Not a chance. All three parties shall have lost the last shred of credibility within a few years.
Labour were and are and uttter and complete disaster. There is no escaping that fact. We do need to keep ramming that into the minds of the public. When the public realise also that the tories and liberals are an utter disaster too, then we may find a way OUT of the fucking mess this country has been in for too many decades now.
All three parties are shite. All three parties should be finished. We need to vote against the liblabcon in massive numbers next time. Elect a PRO BRITISH party to power for a change. I do not care which one. they are all better than the liblabcon party.
The public don’t need any education about how shit and corrupt all politics and politicians are.Point at labour all you want Tory scum,your a thief too in the eyes of the public
that was for 24
Good leaders are hated while in office whereas the bad are hated afterwards.
Hooray! I will be judged as a good leader.
Striking as a last resort to improve pay and conditions in an industrial dispute is one thing. Striking to attempt to bring down a Government chosen according to the Constitution is quite another. As usual, like all Labour apologists you ignore the fact that the vast majority of the Shadow Cabinet are themselves of Public School/Oxbridge origin. The Unions have bought the Labour Party anyway, but the dinosaur leadership are determined to drag the Country back to the @70′s rather than gain political power through the democratic process. I trust that the Union leadership will be drawing strike pay like their members?
What a deluded little man you are…………
The leadership will be alright. Nice seat in their Lordships house waiting for them. Not so good for the sheep who follow them, but then thats not Lord Crow of Millwall’s problem now is it?
’tis to be celebrated.
The more this gaggle of clowns pin themselves to the outdated and plain silly ideology that got us in this mess in the first place, the easier it will be for the conservative part of the coalition to assert itself and push through the electorally difficult changes which need to be made.
Every time Milliband E/D/Balls/Abbott/the other chap who’s name escapes me appear on the TV to argue against the reforms, the voters will be reminded just how hopeless, corrupt, venal and, and , and, oh, just SILLY they really are.
Cameron must now be bold; he may never again have such free reign to push on with what needs to be done.
Bring it on……..
Here’s hoping that Dave realises this and lurches to the right.
Can we have EU referendum Dave please?
Hope so before the north south divide moves down to the straits of Dover
London is already another country………
Londonistan has moved. The next Mayoral ballot will feature a Taliban contender.
It better because your not coming up here you southern twats,and we’ll be cutting your water off shortly too.
We’ll cut off your Bennies, and drink and bathe in Evian.
Who are you calling a southern twat you northern prole?
FYI I am Midlander………….
‘Your’ – FFS.
It’s the natural position for a Labour Party – Opposition is their home ground. What’s interesting now is that there’s huge internal conflict of interests, no ideals, and no obvious philosophy. It’ll take years before they can put a half-way decent narrative and stance together.
In the meantime they’re relying on irrelevant out of date sloganising and automatic visceral opposition to everything – like a bunch of lefty partisan nihilistas. Is there a single one of these scum who has the necessary integrity, leadership or real vision – let alone the requisite ability?
Just out of interest, what’s your ideal government? Still hanker for Gordon (“I saved the world”, “0% growth”, “Didn’t I get a good deal with your gold” ) Brown in charge, or one of the Labour Leadership contenders or even someone else?
Easy to say what you are against, who are you for and will you defend them?
no Blair clones
simple as that
That’s who you are against, who are you for?
those who aren’t Blair clones
now fuck off stupid
Thanks for that DUH! what an apt name, still don’t have the spine to say who you would vote for? It’s a piss poor argument, nice to see you can’t even bring yourself to vote for any of the Labour leadership candidates.
Hey Grey Matter, is this you?
http://thegreymatter.wordpress.com/
It seems feasible, it says what they are against but offers no solutions – just like you and DUH!
Easiest job in the world, it says, “The cuts aren’t inevitable – there are alternatives”. What are your alternatives?
If it’s not you, want to disassociate yourself from it?
Piss off mongsworth
Grey
Dorian
DUUUUHH!!
And your point is what, exactly? Davis is an irrelevance – increasingly so. He’s nowhere near power – and that is all that matters at this stage.
at this stage
And actually I don’t think he’s going to rise up the ranks again, anyway. So his power base is a diminishing return.
well if you think it then it must be true
how did that 100 seat Tory majority work out BTW ?
And your opinon is?
“No obvious philosophy.” Quite right Unsworth. Except, and I hope that I am proven wrong, I detect that there is none in any party right now. Political philosophy is the missing ingredient. What do we stand for? Err, what is the day today?
Well you’ve got to consider whose ‘philosophy’ is up for scrutiny right now. An election is being held within the Labour Party, and candidates have to put forward their ‘ideas’ and ‘principles’. So far we’ve seen nothing credible by way of such concepts. What we’ve seen is the continuance of Class War (largely outmoded now, anyway – to the point of self-parody) and ongoing emotional and irrational outbursts whenever the slightest political opportunity presents itself. All well and good, but it does bugger all to actually change things and precious little to distinguish any candidate, either.
As to the Coalition, well it’s got a very good chance of survival for the full Term of Office, with the Lib Dems becoming a diminishing force – in every sense. So Labour is going to have to look at the long term. In many ways that’s a great luxury. Used wisely the intervening period could provide the opportunity for Labour to become a cohesive body, but all the while it remains factionalised it will constitute a weak ineffective rabble.
And on that topic, frankly I can’t understand why the BBC has not declared itself to be a political party – it seems so much better co-ordinated than anything that Labour is doing at present.
Agree with all you say above Unsworth but the hard fact is that there appears to be no such thing as political philosophy any more. It is something that I have banged on about, on this site and elsewhere for ages now.
I hate to sound repetitive but look at how Keith Joseph interpreted Hayek for Margaret Thatcher. Look at what she managed to do by having a coherent philosophy, for the first two terms at least.
I just do not see any sign of similarity now, hence my perhaps rather facetious remarks above. How can businesses and individuals plan if they don’t know how the government, of whatever persuasion, will react to events? Particularly where those events appear to have no precedent, as has happened more and more in recent times.
Unsworth is never going to see this reply now – and for why?
coz he’s a mong
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The Class War is real. It is a middle class civil war between heirs and the prodigals.
good the lower and upper can sit and watch them wipe each other out.
Even Cameron is middle class – it is said.
Cameron said it
because he’s a liar
There’s next to no middle class left.
A middle class person could afford a full time servant for their household.
We’re nearly all working class here.
There’s a under-class of benefit rent-seekers.
There’s an upper-class of property and government connections rent-seekers.
The idea of someone sharing my house as servant is not appealing to me. I like to be able to use it as I wish and not having to worry about having to put clothes on in order to go to another room in order to avoid upsetting some outmoded sense of propriety. Surely this is nineteenth century analysis?
Political philosophy – whether right left or centre – is a luxury of actually having some money to pay for whatever the philosophy requires.
There’s no money left. The only thing that makes sense is to:
1. Reduce the bills – benefit scroungers, Trident, unnecessary Quangos, reduce Parliament to 200 MPs, EU etc. GTFO of Afghanistan.
2. Increase the revenue – sell offs, tax evaders etc
3. Reduce the bills further – reform benefits, get rid of DFID etc
4. Increase the revenues further – double the taxes on fags and booze.
5. Decrease the bills further – stop Govt charity support, 20% reduction in public sector pay, 20% haircut on public sector pensions, increase retirement age to 75, end free prescriptions.
6. Keep going and going.
you are a thieving banker and the cut to you should be your head
Pragmatism is a philosophy.
I thought it was a force that brought two “prags” together…….
Here here!
Gravely mistaken in para one, Mr Taxpayer, but correct thereafter.
To make an analogy, a religion has a creed: “This is what we believe”.
A political movement, to be worthy of the name, must have a political philosophy: “This is what we stand for”.
The philosophy takes thought. Thought does not require mere money (Who steals my purse steals trash…..) It requires application. That is what is missing in my view.
So the rat faced slimey murdering bastard B LIAR is feeling guilty about the deaths he is responsible for, good, i hope he fucking hangs himself from a tree.
No, no. He deserves a proper Catholic punishment. I suggest death by rogering.
I prefer the mediaeval flaying alive. Followed by salting, then the traditional drawing and quartering by 4 shirehorses.
Stone the slotgob as well. Auction off any offspring (the £0.50 revenue to the Treasury).
A proper catholic punishment? Aye, being whipped on the buttocks with a bunch of wet celery by the local monsigneur.
Did you all see Diane A Butt saying on the telly today how wonderful her hero Tony was to be giving all the royalties from his book to the BL? Stupid bloody woman is a waste of space.
remember theresa may calling her own party the nasty party( it’s public persona)?until our own beloved labour party can wake up to the fact, uncomfortable as it is that thatcher redefined politics in the uk, and labour, post blair, is an irrelevance, then the miliband’s et al are oblivion. the majority,and the taxpayers in particular,correctly despise a unite and unison funded political mafia, whose sole intent seems to be to swamp the country with immigrants,increase the swarm of non productive public employees,stealth tax the english who do all the work and pay for the celts who refuse to work, and expect to be elected for no reason. it will not happen again. “no more boom and bust” will turn out to be far harder to eradicate from the collective memory than the nasty party.
She didn’t call the party the ‘nasty party’. She actually said that others viewed it as such – not quite the same thing, I hope you’d understand.
Come back in May 2015 when the next General Election will be held….will there be a Labour Party around by then ??
Who cares? We’ll get on the list and vote for ANYONE but The Tories or Liberals. Read it and weep.
LOL, the royal “we”. His comrades in the tooting revolutionary collective, await the great revolutionary call. Forwards with socialism comrades! Smash the oppressors of the working class! We are for the many, not the few! Just like in Cuba, North Korea, the CCCP, East Germany, err wait, hold on we need some others to unite the masses, any ideas, clues…anyone…
I’m free
Mesa gonna die soon boss
I’m a Socialist! Vote for me!
You’re also a nationalist, and labour HATE Britain.
I live in America
these cun’ts hate Britain
The shift in Labour reflects the changing mood in the country as services are axed, hardship increases and inequalities become less acceptable. We live in a very different world today than that of 1997. A new left is emerging that will inspire a new generation. So I’m afraid it’s not good news at all for those of you who want Labour to become the “irrelevant third party”.
Its a very different world; a broadly balanced budget tipped into huge defecit, a larger, costlier and less efficient public sector, massive social problems as a result of unchecked immigration, fewer chances for social mobility, a political class hated and reviled more than ever and our armed forces bogged down in a pointless and unwinnable war.
A list of weighty political achievements that is bound to inspire a new generation of disciples to the cause.
@Humbug Hater. Typical left-wing fantasy politics. Lets all pretend that people won’t remember how god-awful the old left were, because a fiscal disaster has to be sorted out by the government. Capitalism is what people do, that is why it kicked the global fascist socialist doctrines into touch in the 1980′s. Evolution is a lot more powerful than revolution old chap, you should really have learnt that by now, and because of that, Socialism will always fail.
@ Baroness Thatcher
Your legacy of “greed is good”, regrettably inherited by New Labour, is part of the reason for the economic collapse.
@ Bug squasher
Just because I’m pleased to see Labour moving leftwards, you assume I’m anti capitalist, hark back to the old left, or even that I’m an “old chap”. There’s no evidence to support any of your assumptions, but you would be right to infer that I’m against the worst excesses of capitalism and believe in a fairer society. Don’t you?
Humbug you are talking bollocks, the ‘left’ will not exist in any meaningful form in 30 years. All your mates in East Germany, France and other stragglers are busy converting to Islam thats how much communism and the left means to them now.
What kind of fuck wits would make an alliance with one of the most CONSVERATIVE religions of all time and think they would profit out of it, oh wait we already know the answer………the fuckwits in the left.
Fuck me you thought Thatcher and Dhimmi Dave was bad wait till you have the muslims running things.
It is game over for you….do you really think they are going to vote for the Milliband brothers down at the mosque? and the beginning of the end for the rest of us.
Before you throw your dummy out of the pram Humbug, let me enlighten you that i’m old skool labour.
It doesn’t take a genius to see where things are heading once you take the plunge down the road to believing in Allah you can’t change your mind or back out or you will be killed as an apostate.
So much for our comrades vaunted atheism and belief in the state……….
@ The March to Eurabia
Erm what can I say? Are you Melanie Phillips?
We disagree
“A new left is emerging that will inspire a new generation.”
ROTFLMMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The loony tunes can only go left cos there is nowhere else for them to go. Even their left wing ideology is in danger of being taken over by the likes of Cable and Hughes etc.
Divy Milibland is wanting to take a Bliarite position. What is the point? The ground has been covered. Labour have no alternative but to take up student politics and stir up the militants!
I would put it another way Sir
The Labour Party does not know where it is going
So, by definition, it will never get there…
(Unless were are going into the “ooh mee goolie” birds jokes !)
and with that a dark door to the west opens.
Guido, stop talking about Labour being a “third party”. The fact is, the LibDems will be absorbed by the Tories before the next election (look at the historical precedent of the last Con-Lib coalition).
The question is whether Labour is the first or second party, since the current third party position occupied by the LibDems will have been abolished by the LibDems themselves.
Splendid. I do understand that the Liberals have a rather nice club?
Mr Hair [sic] to Blair has recruited so many Labour activists (Tsars) to his ranks along with the Lib- Dem coalition co-op’s (divi-up’s) that we now have a Government of all the people, its not the Big Society its Communism.
Why don’t you lay out for us the exact responsibilities and powers of these appointees?
These people are ‘advisers’ in the main. Their ‘advice’ can be conveniently taken – or ignored.
So What! Nick Clegg is looking for a way to slide into the Tory camp permanently
42% Tory + 14% Limp Cem = 56% for the Coalition
Zanu Labour out for ever…
Con 29% + 12% Lib = 41%
Labour activists should have voted Tory years ago.
They are so much happier in opposition.
No more pretending that removing the 10p tax rate from the poorest earners was a good thing. No more pretending that regime change has helped the people of Iraq and trying to convince themselves that women learning to read in Afghanistan is a worthy reason to occupy the country.
They no longer have to go along with the privatisation of Royal Mail, the closure of 6,000 post offices since 1997, the introduction of an arbitary 42 days of detention without charge, the proliferation of CCTV so the UK is the most watched society in the world. The now don’t have to support the bailout of their mortal enemies, the bankers, while steel firms fold up. They no longer need say that Rover was not salvageable, even though we really tried, and money wasn’t the issue.
They no longer have to hang their heads in shame when someone points out that Gordon Brown was the person who raised inheritance tax thresholds.
No longer need the activists worry that they continually voted in the sleazy party The peerage pawners, the Ecclestone appeasers, the whiny speaker who tried to keep hidden MPs expenses, the serial fraudsters, fat shaggers, dodgy dossiers, bent billionaires, two homes double claiming cabinet couples, plug tugging husbands writing letters about the wonderful minister, cheque waving ginermonks, Bush hugging, nuclear commissioning, war mongering, tax wasting, everything banning, spin mastering, Mandelson needing, Dome designing, council tax tripling, bin non-emptying, speed camera mugging, crime ignoring, phone flinging, smear testing,TV crying, wife fronting, record deficit in the nations history, boom busting Labour party.
They can happily allow the coalition to get on with it, complaining loudly that nothing bad would ever, or has ever, happened under Labour
** CLAPS **
Exackerly
What a PEP talk
Clap yerself, why dontcha darlin? Might have to read it now.
Long may their happiness last thus.
Now the Heir to Blair can do all that and get applause from right wingers for turning the Conservatives into Blu-Labour.
+++applause+++
I always think Labour is happier in opposition, really. Like Liverpool, they like to play on the break. They’re never entirely comfortable having to confront the reality of power. Marxists, now, they love power, but the uneasy coalition of syndicalists, liberals and more-water-on-your-beer socialists that make up the Labour Party prefer to criticise others.
Liverpool only know how to play on the break. Hoof it aimlessly upfield and chase after it. Just like 11 year olds.
PS: Gerrard is a cheating thug.
Of course they will enjoy themselves more in opposition
Children always do…
It is their role, lying, smearing and spending others people’s money until it runs out – as they have just done
And the Limp Dems should become the Official Opposition..
There is not need rfor any country to have a socialist party
Socilaist parties throughout the world are the dregs of history – many openly totalitarian others failed and discredited and liberticide…
We are moving inexorably towards the End of History and the triumph of freedom…
Even in Russia and China…
Fuck me, an avant-garde Marxist with spunk stains on his copy on ‘Atlas Shrugged’
Madoff Mandeslon has as much credibility as his namesake…
Hardly surprising the “leadership” boys in short trousers ignore him (dear Diane does not even count!)…
They are his creations to the extent that they have no principles…
William you are so right. Labour is the party of crass hypocracy. Which bog standard comp. did most of the old Cabinet attend (Prescott apart)? The party is controlled by the unions anyway who have a political rather than social agenda. Take a look at the salaries of union leaders compared with the workers whose subs they are happy to take. Until recently the NUM discovered it was still paying for an apartment in London for Scargill to enjoy. The working class can kiss my a…….
Waaaaaah! They making fun of my Labour! I wuv Labour! I weally, weally wuv dem! Don’t make fun of dem!
Hello Blinky
No only are you a deficit denier
But you are inebwiated by your own dwivel…
Those happy pills you give Gordo semm to be making you mad as well..
Do go and see a specialist…
Wheras, like everyone else, Geeky Eddy Milli does not even understand the dwivel he is speaking…
He needs help as well…
we know you do tat
This never stops being entertaining.
By the way, can’t you see the love in Sarah’s eyes for her hero? Even when he mentions her name, she’s so moved with emotion that she manages to stay stony faced.
Do leave him alone
He has his happy pills and is in a straigtjacket
Has he had his fizzy orange yet?
Not yet
But I do put fizzy orange up his (dare not say where) before he goes to sleep
He loves it…
it’s the mincing walk that gives him away
Funny, I felt the same way when it turned out that Cameron was just Thatcher mark 2.
If only he was.
Mark Thatcher
He couldn’t find his own arse with a flashlight either.
If only that were true, we might fucking get somewhere.
A great statesman silently broods in deepest Fife.
http://www.gordonbrown.com/
Tony B-lair is donating all the profits from his memoirs to a new sports centre for injured troops
“Gifts of money made to a charity by your company should be paid gross – before tax is deducted. These donations are deductible from the total profits of your business when calculating Corporation Tax”
Is this a tax deductible fiddle?
Is John Prescott fat?
Another tax fiddle you mean ?
Blair already has dozens of offshore companies
He is a pure hypocrite obsessed bycatching up with the wealth of others
Like Bill Clinton, his mentor…
Don’t forget green Billionaire AlGor.
Mr Cameron said:
“If you want to understand climate change, go and see Al Gore’s film, An Inconvenient Truth.”
All who love LIBERTY should do all in their power to destroy the Labour Party. They are just fascist scum.
Socialism and fascism
Two faces of the same coin
Both devoted to mass murder…
It always ends with Famine and Firing Squads
The 20th century proved that
But Labour still deny it…
here’s a little reminder what the limpdicks want.
John Jacob Astor wrote a novel A Journey in Other Worlds where he describes a society which operates on the idea of conserving energy.
sound familiar.
This was shown to the tosswanks at the Liebore conference last year. McDoom sitting with kids again, the only demographic who can’t vote and don’t know what a c’unt he is.
The only time his “handlers” put the Gurning Goon with an adult – Mrs Duffy
He copiously insulted her – even though she was/is a Zanu supporter.
Says it all…
Fap Fap Fap Fap Fap Fap Fap Fap Fap Fap Fap Fap Fap Fap
Sploot for me Gordie! I wuv Labour!
David Cameron, is a signed-up supporter of UAF
http://www.europeantruth.co.uk/cameron%20and%20uaf.html
Conthugs R Us, Cameron is a Tory? Silly boy.
oooo lovely
I agree with Guido – the sooner Labour become a 20th century irrelevance the better.
The Lefty Labour Party are … white hot heat of technology . . . change . . . my Hon. friend SwivelEyes . . . Benn . . . we shall all have telephones . . . Concord . . . 14 years of Tory MisRule . . . . can someone change my record please?
I love my husband, my hero, Mr Brown. Can’t you see the chemistry between us? The love in my eyes?
How much did your PR company make out of New Labour, Miss Macauley ?
To which charity will Sarah Braun donate the advance and royalties of her memoirs? Any suggestions?
Hi!
I just KNOW you’re gonna wanna buy MY book!
I DON’T NEED THE MONEY JUST NOW – but I know you’ll wanna support me!
Like you used to when you voted for me – remember?
Some people are whining though.
They say I’m mercenary.
Am I bovvard?
Nah!!!
Brown gives me the horn!!
I think you’d shag a warm scarf!
She islooking at his dandruff and every time McMental grabs her wrist it looks like he is about to apply the plastic cuffs
thank you.
Waaaaaaaaaaaaah! Dey making fun of my Gordie!! Leave my Gordie alone you howwible Towies!
thank you whining pussy
I wuv Gordie so much! He sploots for me evewy night! Sploot for me, Gordie!
It looks like its a post from the person who lies about having a blog.
Bet with me
£25 for free
Boooom and bust……….
Boom and buuuust……………….
Booooom and busssst………….
Thank you
Peter the Ponzi Mandelson
I had a successful tenet once
Not sure what it means
But I will try
Borrow as much money as you can, call in “investment” and noone will ask any questions
It’s worked has it not ?
I will give a statement in the House tomorrow…
How you going to get out of your straitjacket, Gordon?
Take a look at Little Nickys blood line.
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/the_astor_bloodline.htm
Can I just say that I didn’t lose the election? I just lost it.
We know
That is your tenet Gordo
But you should know that a real tenet is something you suck and stick up your own bum before you go do sleep (especially in Cape Cod – they taste better there)
That way you don’t have to call nurse…
I think I am becoming a God.
One of the best “I’ve just shit meself!” lines in history. Suetonius?
Claudius, according to Seneca, I think. ‘ I think I`m becoming a God ‘ was Vespasian.
Ag-a-doo-doo-doo, vote labour, Lib or Tory
Aga-doo-doo-doo, no matter which you’ll get all three
From the left, From the right, we’re a happy family
As you see our policies all come straight from van Rompuy
twat
Hmmm? I imagine the Unions are working on their Marxist-Miliblandist ideology as we type. Working out how many strikes it will take to crush the Coalition, destroy the economy and the country.
Is possible to set up an anti-union union?
Dis-unite?
Send me a fiver and its done
Solidarnosc
invite Lech Walesa
He will tell you how to bugger the Zanu unions…
Simples
uaf uaf
Most of those striking are paid by the public and do non-jobs, or have “fungible skills” and are easily replaced.
We will notice the improvement when they don’t commute, and that’s about it. The state will notice the lower wage bill and increased productivity.
Do not criticise me Gudio
I am on happy pills as well
That is why New Labour are and always were invincible and we have never lost an Election…
Please contact your local mental health charity for more information on ME…
it is the actions of criminals like the mafia
at 43 seconds
You wanna bet the American Bureaucrat on the Death Panel wont be a mega attraction for the worlds AIDS inflicted.
The UK NHS has 50% of AIDS treatment for non-British.
In the ’70s Ralph Miliband did his best to develop programmes to make Labour unelectable, his sons are going to do their best to finish the job.
@beast, you’re on.
Tis a good idea
A new “dis-union”
For those of us who are sick of paying for these k unts
WORKERS OF THE WORLD DIS-UNITE!
It’s called freedom of association, Marxism (the new slavery) hates it.
his face looks like it suffers from more gravity than the rest of us.
A hour and eight minutes? A) Life’s too short B) I get 5 gigs a month
10 seconds in is enough to make the point
You are a howwibble Towy Bow Guido
Toilets!!
Where have you been hiding since May 6th?
Bring back Blunkett to sort out dole scroungers
What af ucking joke
The scumbag who charged us to export his mistress To Derbyshire for a little jiggy jiggy
Thanks wisteria Dave
F ucking scum to a man and a woman
I look forward to the day when Old Holborn starts throwing excrement at them
Bluncket can identify a scrounger when he sees one…
Blunkett was Blairs joke.The stupid electorate are the blind and Blunkett was there to lead them,now Dave wants to play the same joke like his mini me blair would copy
“Irrelevent” third party, my arse! Remember the longest suicide note in history, and the birth of the SDP? All were supposed to be monuments to the end of Labour, and then came the Blair-Mandelson-Brown Heimlich maneuver, and hey presto, the corpse was revived, to go on and french kiss the electorate including many Tories.
The obituary’s are somewhat premature. Like herpes, they’ll be back.
Like herpes
They are catching
Nick Clegg: Troops should take priority over Trident
Deputy prime minister reveals tensions within coalition government over the nuclear weapons system
Nick Clegg, the deputy prime minister, today exposed tensions within the coalition over the £20bn replacement of the Trident nuclear weapons system.
He said at a time of “huge pressure” on the defence budget money should be directed towards troops on the frontline in Afghanistan.
The Liberal Democrat leader, who has become the public face of the government while David Cameron is on holiday, claimed the public would find it hard to understand why money was being spent on a full replacement of the Trident system at a time of belt-tightening in Whitehall.
Why don’t they just come out and say trident will not fit in with EU plans instead of all this bollux
Let’s ask for a French “nuclear umbrella”
Much cheaper…
And you can always rely on the French…
troops,an ever diminishing cost,the numbers keep falling
Even a fellow irishman you balk bollocks Guido
Mandeslon was always a deceitful non Labour person
he lost us the election because of his “tenets”…
Baaa! We don’t know what caused the deficit. So we are going on strike cus we want our 5% pay rise and we can’t think beyond that. So there! Baaaa.
They are pissing about over 0.5%.
They will get that extra 0.75% over three years and Unite will claim a major victory.
Michael Gove is seeking inspiration for his school reforms from another of history’s great revolutionaries.
The Education Secretary has erected a large portrait of Lenin on his office wall, a relic of a youthful trip to the USSR.
ha ha ha ,fucking Tory Dumkophs
Why would anyone contemplate taking a holiday in the then, communist USSR? Worse still, hang a picture in your office, of a man who inspired the enslavement of millions of people. Seriously, you have to question some peoples judgement and motives, very deeply indeed.
How can we help them “lurch” a little more to the Left Guido
These would do the country a service
Blinky has let us down seriously
Can we support Diane now ?
Ask them to form a coalition with the Liberals.
That certainly made Dave lurch to the left.
Labour are not an irrelevance in Scotland. The Tories are the irrelevant party. Sad but true.
I am sorry for you
Emigrate before we sell Jockland for a symbolic pound please
Seriously, we can’t go on being ruled by Scottish Labour which is organised crime…as we have just seen…
The English is too,the jocks have less finesse
Scotchland is an irrelevance in Scotchland, FFS!
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/business/blair-sets-great-example-to-children-who-want-to-kill-people-201008163006/
Take a look if you want a giggle
armed and brainless
nobody loves us when we come home.
the co op till jockys won’t serve us boo hoo.
I wuv my Gordie! He makes me sploot!
we know you do tat you schizo nutcase
Sploot for me, Gordie!
cameron is a
UAF member
DO IT GUIDO PLEASE
Only if she’s going to give us the tits out exclusive that Bryony didn’t
No longer Bliar, it’s now Blood Money Blair. Perhaps he’s worried about the pope’s visit.
It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven. …
Maybe Blair has just been told of some terminal disease.
He won’t worry as he’s been cloned by Cameron, Clegg and Miliband.
It didn’t state that the camel had to be alive.
A lovely thought Guido, that what happened the the old Liberal Party back in the 1920′s, could happen to Liebour.
However, I think you are being far too optimistic, Labour have swathes of Tribal support, from ethnic groupings as well as the white working class “my father and his father before him” type voters. They do not make informed choices they do so on whatever they were brainwashed with when they were growing up. The Liberals don’t cut much ice with those people. In many areas people shift between blue and red, if they shift at all and never stop off at yellow.
Also the media doesn’t give a stuff about the LibDems, apart from a few lefty papers who backed them last time, due to Labour’s complete lack of credibility. The BBC will only back Labour and happily crap on the Lib Dems if they think that Labour is being undermined by them.
In short, the Limp Dems have very soft support, as the polls are starting to show. They don’t stand for anything in particular, except PR and they’re never going to get that. Therefore they are only seen as deal-making party, who bend over and take it from whoever they form a coalition with.
Labour will hopefully, remain weak for some time, but they still not end up third.
So irrelevent that the collossus that is Dave couldn’t win a majority.
Enjoy your brief moment in the limelight, before normal service is resumed.
Thanks for that, when ‘normal service is resumed’ who do you want as your leader and what of their policies do you admire?
A mixture of Abbott’s hypocrisy, Balls’ bullying, Miliband major’s geekiness, Miliband minor’s hectoring and Burnham’s hysteria.
If you mix them up you get Harman
It’s funny how none of the labour trolls on here can bring themselves to declare their preferred candidate, can’t say I blame them.
You can’t polish a turd but you can roll it in glitter!
They will elect a Miliband Blair clone to fight the other two Blair clones.
Isn’t that what the conservatives did?
I’d say so, yes.
Although initially I think a specific purpose was behind it. DC and team were parachuted into the leadership contest to prevent the Party growing into an effective opposition to railroading the EU constitution through the parliamentary process and ending these islands’ sovereign independence.
The EUSSR project was already in progress even in Heath’s day. Parliament can end the rule of the quislings of course, but I doubt we’ll ever see it, voting patterns being what they are.
It’s not just Liebour that are irrelevant, it’s their bum chums at the BBC, the Guardian and the Independent not to mention the Daily Mirror.
All leftist scum.
Would that include Field, Hutton and Milburn?
Scum presently rising to the top in the coalition.
I suspect Field is more right wing than Cammoboy.
I suspect Clegg is more right wing than Cammoboy.
Labour? Labour? i’ve heard of them.. were they the ones that abolished free university education, got rid of the lowest rate of tax and welcomed the Premier of China at the time of the civil unrest s in Tibet?
Are they to the right of the coalition? Now I think about it didn’t they want to introduce 42 day detention without trial and instant fines payable at a cash point, without any sort of trial? And they gave billions and billions to RBS and HBOS, but didn’t think to reintroduce free school milk, that they were saying was an abhorrent cut to have made over 30 years ago.
Is this the same Labour that did a few wars for oil and promised to abolish the privileged House of Lords, but are all now sitting in it, lording it {literally} over the ordinary working class man.
Sounds like they could be to the right of the NSDAP.
And almost all with the backing of the heir to Blair.
Milk seems to be given free
I was in a shop the other day and two little darkies came in with vouchers demanding free milk
They got it
That would be milk tokens Beast,paid to the income support sprogs
As one of the foremost NooBoringLiar Wimmin, I consider it an honour and a privilege to do all I can to ensure my Heroic Husband is happy and content in his Heroic Struggle!
There – has that finally eased the discomfort dear?
One of the big problems with trying to flush labour down the lav is that they are a bit like one of those annoying skid marks. However much bleach you put on them, the shit always seems to stay there.
Even the most cursory analyis quickly reveals why. Nulabour spent 13 years infiltrating every nook and cranny of public life. Education; let’s face it they were banging at an open door there as most teachers are raving lefties anyway. The law – you only have to see how dripping wet some judges now are to know that they were spawned out of the rank arse of labour. The media – enough said. Public sector workers: Always was infested with labour.
Truth is – as I am sure fellow co-conspirators have pointed out – there will always be a section of brainwashed drones who wring their hands and vote labour no matter what. They are idiologically opposed to anything other than leftist doctrine, however strong the evidence is.
I’ve tried, believe me, but it is like talking to a brick wall. Supposedly intelligent people glaze over when confronted with evidence and switch to classic leftie denial mode: “No no no, you’ve been reading the Daily Mail, you mustn’t believe it when they say Gordon sold gold at the bottom of the market, he did no such thing…he saved the country from financial ruin..”
At this point you simply have to walk away and quietly vomit.
Mr Sniffer there is a saying
Fools never take advice wise people dont need it
So dont f ucking bother
I know beasty, but sometimes….sometimes..you’ve got to try…. nah you’re right. Fuck ‘em.
Here we see two endangered specimens of the right wing Dodo’s attempt to procreate the species in a mutual wankfest. Look at their frantic displays of true blue plumage, fluffed up in a ritual dance, as old as the last night of conference.
For God’s sake Dave, throw them some millet.
Successful parasites like the Common Cold and most types of ‘flu don’t destroy their host. A trick that the Socialist Virus hasn’t learned yet.
What can you do when the world and their dog are lefties and stereotypes ?
What can the dying breed of dinosaur tories do, but kick and thrash in ever more desperate attempts to avoid the inevitable extinction that Darwinian theory predicts?
Bye, bye!
I think you may have confused Marx with Darwin there…
Said the knuckle dragging big beast from Pickleland.
The world that time, and only one arsehole for so much free food, forgot.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5384459/MPs-expenses-A-Conservatives-office-essentials-mugs-mints-and-McVities-biscuits.html
Marxism is economic creationism and just as pseudo-scientific nonsense.
You need “Barry Snott” and some Cillit Brown.
One spray and “bang” the pong is gone.
Comes in a handy bust economy sized multi-pack.
Truth is – as I am sure fellow co-conspirators have pointed out – there will always be a section of brainwashed drones who wring their hands and vote conservative no matter what. They are ideologically opposed to anything other than Tory doctrine, however strong the evidence is.
Labour. Investment, equality and progression, or Conservative slash and burn, division and serfdom.
Kinda defines you as a person, doesn’t it?
Labour: incompetence, financial wrecklessness. Social mobility stagnation. Robbing pensions. Spite. Lies. Spin. Wars. Defines you as a person, doesn’t it?
You had 13 years to link pensions back to earnings. Why didn’t you? The coalition did it in a matter of weeks.
Maybe because earnings have become the cheaper option.
What defines you is not being able to answer any responses to your posts.
It’s difficult to communicate with a programmed drone.
We do, however, try to make an exception in cases such as yours .
Nothing more drone-like than a Labour supporter, your only principle is who you oppose, you don’t care about everything else.
Shame none of you can bring yourself to proudly reveal who you’d vote for in the Labour party leadership contest. As I say elsewhere, I can’t blame you.
It’s hardly new for someone from Labour to avoid a question, Tone and Gordy did it every week at PMQs.
Labour.
Squander, anti men, and wealth destruction.
So equality and class warfare, how does that work?
Marxism Kinda defines you as a moron.
Yeah it does. Defines you as a soundbite obsessed k.unt.
The official verdict that Dr David Kelly committed suicide has been overwhelmingly rejected by the public.
According to an exclusive Mail opinion poll, only one in five people accepts the Hutton Inquiry’s finding that the government weapons inspector took his own life.
The survey also reveals that eight out of ten people want a full inquest. With senior MPs making the same demand, the Coalition is under strong pressure to act.
It comes as a medical report says it was ‘impossible’ that Dr Kelly bled to death in the way described by the inquiry.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1303356/Dr-David-Kelly-Just-believes-suicide.html
Why was he killed?
Why indeed ?
are Permindex still going,they could tell you.
Anyone got a list for the 10% as I have a lot of junk I need to move?
Will Wisteria Dave dig deep into his copious pockets to help the British Legion?
I think not.
Coming from the supporter of a party who’s cabinet minister claimed for a wreath of poppies on his expenses..that’s a bit fucking rich.
Good shot, that man!
Let’s see those leftie scum come back from that one.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8080739.stm
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/299354/Tory-MP-James-Gray-is-exposed-as-a-greedy-skinflint-after-claiming-for-Remembrance-Day-WREATHS-on-expenses-while-Marathon-hero-Phil-Packer-crossing-finishing-line.html
Biff him on the hooter!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8080739.stm
are you my daddy ?
Are you a cab for hire? Yes? Get a move on then. Chop chop.
If he does he will not be announcing it in public, whats blair worried about he doesn’t need our votes anymore.
The only fucking pockets you fabian bastards ever dig into is OURS to line YOURS, you thieving two faced champagne swilling ego polishing fuckers! NOW FUCK OFF!!
And Charlie’s the biggest cheerleader for a lurch to the left:
http://fxbites.blogspot.com/2010/08/right-charlie.html
Its not the ‘left’ we have to worry about its the Marxist agenda which now hides behind their latest trendy oh-so-reasonable sounding term “Progressive”
“We are a progressive coalition” -D. Camoron
“Lony” educated under Labour were you?
Meanwhile, at a cashpoint near you…
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/7944444/Thieves-use-breasts-to-distract-victim.html
Has Bryony found a sideline?
Calm down, it’s nearly time for bingo.
Do you want a wee?
LOL !!!
Lightweights !! I normally bares my gerbil while Figgers makes off wiv a monkey .
E x .
P.S. WTF are you Dave ???
We gave you child tax credits! We are the only party of child tax credits! Only we will protect child tax credits! We gave an ungrateful nation child tax credits!
Child tax credits!
Wisteria Dave is leading the progressive coalition of change
“Sam , ring Smallbones for a new kitchen and stick it on expenses”
Changing the kitchen and hopefuly the bog seats
I don’t get it and I wrote it.
N
Nowt rong wi’ changin’ tut bog seats.
And you’re renaissance man, i take it.
Jolly unfair
My man Clegg has given the heads a really good clean
I still have bruises on the back of my neck and bleach burns on my tongue but I am still in charge
Dave
The threat of a strike by workers at six UK airports has been called off after a new pay offer was tabled.
The threat of a strike by workers at six UK airports has been called off after a new pay offer was tabled.
The Unite union and the airports’ operator BAA agreed a “basis for settlement” on Monday evening.
A strike was called at the airports including Heathrow, Stansted, Edinburgh and Aberdeen after engineers and other ground staff rejected a pay deal.
Agreement to end the strike threat came after nine hours of talks, but no details of the new offer were released.
So, can I land this bird at Heathrow in 20 minutes? I’ve got 240 hysterical passengers throwing their BA sandwiches at the stewardesses and blocking the toilets.
I get all my info from http://www.order-order
Note to strikers…
If spain goes wobbly ferrovial goes TU and you lose your jobs.
Wee, sleekit, cow’rin, tim’rous beastie,
O, what a panic’s in thy breastie!
Thou need na start awa sae hasty
Wi bickering brattle!
I wad be laith to rin an’ chase thee,
Wi’ murdering pattle.
I’m truly sorry man’s dominion
Has broken Nature’s social union,
An’ justifies that ill opinion
Which makes thee startle
At me, thy poor, earth born companion
An’ fellow mortal!
It’s like watching Newsnight when Kirsty Wark is presenting.
The Labour Party is doomed for the same reason that the unions are: they have long since achieved what they set out to do.
You’re fucking doomed to repeat the same old tory cliches ad infinitum.
Still. it’s a living.
Dr Mick. Living proof that the braindead can still contribute to the big society.
where’s ya blog titfer?
Shall I do the punchline again ??
Shouldn’t that be two separate words?
Deep Purple weren’t that bad, were they?
On and on we go.
No, just steal someone’s moniker and say something rude and irrelevant and maybe throw in a Youtube vid. Just for a change.
A clear case of acute paranoia, brought on by excessive conservative abuse.
No charge!
Guido you muppet – they’ve just called the strike off. Jonah Fawkes? Next you know we’ll have Diane Abbott as leader of the party. Cam’s really fucked then ain’t he?
Hat tip: Col. M.T. Kernel (retd), in the billiard balls with the boot, for the moniker.
our beloved movement has now received the ultimate betrayal with the cynical sale of the book rights,only ofThe Journey to a fascist publishing house.Hollywood is bidding mega bucks for the film rights to Iraq,Gordon Brown made me.. and no, i am not a tax exile,and ,yes, my book will outsell “How I saved the world and bankrupted a major economy in three years”,and, yes,I am a pretty honest guy and ,you know, both David and Ed would be great members with Neil, of the Upper House, well, ok ,that’s where all failed politicos end,and look let’s face it our beloved party is still there,and the nation is holding it’s breath tosee whether Diane or Andy will become Shadow Minister for Welcoming Muslims to Britain,and, my accountant is on the phone……
cHiLd TAx cReDIts! cHiLd TAx cReDIts! cHiLd TAx cReDIts!
Fuck off Oiks!
I’m in charge now.
Ever wondered how your savings were decimated, your pension funds plundered ??
Here’s how Labour screwed all you capitalist savers !
http://tinyurl.com/2b6jr7z
As a once Trustee Director of a Pension scheme I have long held the view that Brown should be in prison for this one act of treason against the British people. I still hold that view – and, unlike Brown, I will continue to pay for it. Brown was a disaster and yet there are still apologists who continue to say that he achieved that which he clearly did not. I have yet to discover how such delusion exists – save that we are obviously completely thick as a race of people.
We returned over 400 proven thieves to Westminster.
How much more evidence do you need?
The people once had sharp political instincts,even those that paid no attention to it.Is it something in the water,Is the diet fucked?
I’ve been losing 200 pounds a month, all down to the Telegraph crash course diet of Parliamentary exposes.
It’s Television, mainly BBC & Channel 4.
Thank Christ we get the truth from ITV and Skymadeupnewsandfilth.
If you’re sick, disabled or unemployed, fuck off and die.
Alternatively, if you’re a deadbeat, lead-swinger, benefit fraudster or generally a total waste of space, come and join me in the Labour Party.
“deadbeat, lead-swinger, benefit fraudster or generally a total waste of space”
Yeah! I’ll go with that.
Oooh, yes ! Count us in too !!!
Lovely system, isn’t it?
Who would think that i, an elite troughing hoon, could possibly have anything in common with those horny handed sons of dishonest toil.
What strange bedfellows we encounter down at the fees office.
Get yourself into the House of Lords with me and Kinnockio. We make up the claims faster than Gordon could spend Taxpayers’ money !
David Milliband is talking left, looking right and getting shafted up the middle…
Serves him right…
…For being under the delusion that he may well be the next Prime Minister.
BBC 2. Prescott and Hughes giving the old Punch and Judy performance.
Ever get the feeling you’ve been had?
I love you Gordie!
I luv you the mostest !
Soon we will be back off our not fucked up holidays ,the power of our unions saw to that. Then we will pay attention to the shit that’s going down with Pickles etc. The Tories will be seen again as the nasty party,simple post hypnotic suggestion and programming by the wonderful BBC will see to that. Labour,the party of the many will rise up as the great savior of the people. Cut our drugs via the NHS and we will listen to Labour. Tax us and we will listen even more to Labour. Cut services and we will blame you for it.Come election day the Tories will be the despised party. before that day come’s the Libdems will see the death future and abandon you and come to Labour.Cameron’s cabinet of Tory toffs will be known by all as the upper class twats and will never be trusted.Labour the party of the people,the party of the poor and oppressed will triumph. The USA think you are a joke.We have the new United States in South America as our ally and future oil supplier, yes they will take the Falkland oil from you and allow the USA to have some too.Your days are numbered.your short time is declining .Say goodbye to power for ever slime party.
Suggest you go find your way back to cloud cookoo land you have certainly lost your way.
no Tory fool he is right. We have it all mapped out for the future Unites States of Europe.The merging of all party’s is 90%complete.The foolish public in your country are dumber than a box of momgs.This time next year your country will be HM Prison Britain.No one without an identity card and a biometric passport will be allowed out,and only with a visa.
The coalition exists only in the imagination of the imaginer.
ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Where’s the blog tat ?
In the imagination of the imaginer.
Where else?
400
Isn’t it time you changed hands?
So it turns out charitable-giving is both a tax evasion scam, and a way to thieve off the poor. The filth in government and the shit in the public sector that instantiate these insults on the people, should be disembowelled an burned.
The thieving off the poor bit, comes about because the government, via taxation (thieving off the poor), matched the donations of rich tax evaders.
The tax avoidance follows from fuckmupery involving setting donations as liabilities to pay less tax than the donation.
The vile evil Satanic mass-murdering filthy loathsome war criminal, Tony Blair, is due to hand over £2.5 million from his fake book deal (payola for war crimes for the foaming-at-the-mouth hook-nosed Nazis) to the Royal British Legion.
This might sound great, but the poor who actually proportionally pay massively more taxes than evil subhuman shit, like Tony Blair, will have to match it with another £2.5 million. Moreover, this evil filthy Satanic monster, Tony Blair, will be cooking the books and pointing to this charitable donation, to keep yet more money for himself, his shit-faced grabbing gutter-rat wife, and his dirty bastard retarded children.
When the rich (mostly hook-nosed Nazis) get honours for charitable works, the cu-nts are being rewarded for tax evasion.
It’s a fucking disgrace. The rich and the political elite are pissing and shitting on us 24/7.
And the mindless drones queue up open mouthed for more.
It helps to keep a sense of the absurd, when musing on the state of British politics.
But this is Tony Blair…he made lots of promises he never kept.Who is to say he will hand over the money? Personally, I think the price of forgiveness is much higher than a couple of million quid. Typical New Labour c’unt though, everything is a commodity and has a price, whether it is right or wrong.
But Diane Blackbutt on the Beeb today thinks he’s a hero for this oh so selfless action.
Pass the sick bag Nellie.
Ooh, ooh, look at me! I am Iain Dale on “the radio” now. I wasn’t going to mention much about it on my blog but there has been precious little else since… but I am a media whore after all!, lol, etc. and all that shite.
I love myself! Nobody else does so that might be a great thing! LOL, gayer, whatever!
Fuck off Dale. I always switch over if I have the misfortune to see you plying your dirty trade on Sky.
Fuck you!
Oooo get you,you sound like your jealous of Mrs I’ve found another job I can make money from,simple turn off the radio or telly when mrs Dale is on and get a life.
Seriously, where is that disgusting scotch fuckwit? Own up. Who were the millions of British shitheads who voted for zaNu Liebour? I know the election is over but I can’t forgive. You should all be sent to live in Gaza or Guantanamo. The only way to fix the repeat mistakes is to get rid of the pricks who vote in a fucking shower like that. Another 10-15 years and it’ll be same shit all over again.
Spare some change, guv?
“All good news for those of us who want to see the Labour Party become electorally irrelevant.”
Congratulations, grasshopper. Your wish is fulfilled.
Labour is electorally irrelevant, just like the Tories and the Liberals.
A vote for any of them is a vote for all of them. Divided, they stand.
The genuine Fawkes sought to cleanse the whole of Parliament.
Just between you and us, Guido, are you ecstatic that Cameron is the best that the Mother of Parliaments has left to offer?
Abbott wne ton TV to praise Balir for giving money from his book to the Royal legion, Blair always said he was a socialist so Burnham a Blairite saying he’s a socialist isn’t a swing to the left,I ca’t see how equality of women candiates is a swing to the left as HArman said it years ago, and I cna’t see if Balls is a deficit denier as you said it means that he swung to the left wither, for the record I Havering the new labour members aren’t from the left either
What is a Wankathon?
I love the good news thank you Guido!!
‘….the successful tenets of New Labour’
You are fu**ng joking.
whether its labour tories or lib dems you got 3 different kinds if shite dog horse and cow all of them stink never vote exercise your right not to vote
the public sector needs culled big time the conservatives are right to increase the private sector many unemployed would be happy to work but the law is weighted in favour of employers in public and private sector in northern ireland employers can get away with discrimination 99.9% of the time that needs fixing
in 1997 one look at tony bliar i felt he could not be trusted people asked for economic mess 2010 is in now just like fianna fail voters in republic of ireland its far too good for them they like getting kicked in the teeth too good for them as conservative lib dem cannot do any worse the worst has happened but in 1997 onwards the votes of the poor were betrayed you don t get what you vote for you get what you vote in