Cameron Endorsement Costs Fox IRS Investigation
It just gets worse for Liam Fox. After yesterday’s slamming from the Charity Commission for his farcical neo-con charity Atlantic Bridge, today he now learns that it is under investigation from the Inland Revenue Service. Apparently the Yanks are not overly impressed with the tax-exempt status the charity had if it was flouting the rules. This seems to have been the problem:
“Americans should look forward to May 6, after which Cameron and his government will likely assume power. He will be good for America and better for the Special Relationship.”
Bet Dave wishes his blundering Defence Secretary was still that loyal…
Any news on the other “charities” being investigated by the Charities Commission? Or, being Labour-supporting charities (!), are they in the clear?
OT
1.8 MILLION scroungers to be thrown off incapacity benefit
http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/6169583/more-grist-for-the-welfare-reform-mill.thtml
yeah right. Believe it when you see it….
We’re all defending Israel together
I think Dave will lose the support of many of us (including Fox and his partry) if he keeps kow-towing to Drama Obama. It appears no surprise he went to Turkey after his visit to the US. Why does he feel it necessary to suck up to the US, it is not up to them who enters the EU. We want less immigration not more, that is what he was elected for. Less EU rules imposed on us. Less demands from the US as an EQUAL partener. Does Dave have a backbone? He is behaving more like the hideous Blair as each day passes. The Us does not give the UK any special friendship, we all saw this over the BP disaster (the US conveniently forgets Bhopal and its tsationoxic leaks and continuing compen legal battles 25 years on).
Wake up Dave, or you will lose all of us. Think national interest not personal interest like Blair.
@Blairs wars
http://spectator.org/archives/2010/07/16/americas-ruling-class-and-the/print
sound as out of touch as us.
Blair’s war
Well he looks look B’Liar because he is the heir of B’Liar isn’t he!!!!!
Cameron is becoming a complete and utter arse. I suppose they all do eventually, and some, like Brown, are arses before. Shouldn’t every PM have an aide whispering into his ear on foreign trips ; ‘engage the brain and think things through before you pass an opinion’.
Hmmm… so that MIGHT move 1.8 million people from Incapacity Benefit to Jobseeker’s Allowance and a range of other benefits to cover basic bills.
There are undoubtedly some scroungers on IB. There are also people who genuinely deserve it. Then there’s a grey area between the two.
The only real answer is lots more jobs available not drawing on the public purse, and that’s a harder problem…
Perhaps they should cut the fines (taxation) for employing people, people working, investment (that creates jobs) and saving (to fund that investment)…
Just saying….
What to replace the revenue?
Ground-rents are a still more proper subject of taxation than the rent of houses. A tax upon ground-rents would not raise the rents of houses. It would fall altogether upon the owner of the ground-rent, who acts always as a monopolist, and exacts the greatest rent which can be got for the use of his ground. More or less can be got for it according as the competitors happen to be richer or poorer, or can afford to gratify their fancy for a particular spot of ground at a greater or smaller expense. In every country the greatest number of rich competitors is in the capital, and it is there accordingly that the highest ground-rents are always to be found. As the wealth of those competitors would in no respect be increased by a tax upon ground-rents, they would not probably be disposed to pay more for the use of the ground. Whether the tax was to be advanced by the inhabitant, or by the owner of the ground, would be of little importance. The more the inhabitant was obliged to pay for the tax, the less he would incline to pay for the ground; so that the final payment of the tax would fall altogether upon the owner of the ground-rent.
– Adam Smith , The Wealth of Nations, Book V, Chapter 2, Article I: Taxes upon the Rent of Houses
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_value_tax
Or even
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Rent
Which explains why as land prices rise, (due to credit expansion and deliberate policy of preventing land development in Britain) we are getting poorer.
Also relative wages are maintained post tax (not pre-tax) so progressive taxation of incomes has the effect of lowering the wages of the poor.
ok, so instead of £400 to rent a house let’s have £200 for the house and £250 for the land (increased due to tax).
So we’ve validated Adam Smith, but, er, tenant seems to have lost out….?
Ricardos law of rent, says not…
Unfortunately it’s in moderation..
Sounds a lot like you just want council tax, and nothing else.
Thats how it would translate in modern terms: Massive increase in council tax, esp in richer cities.
Do you live in a tiny bedsit in hull or something?
AC1 – if all land is taxed then all landlord’s costs will increase; ipso ergo all rents will increase??
Not true that rents will increase. Read the law of rent. Rents will go up as the wages increases however.
Make it cheaper to manufacture here than it is in China.
Create Special Economic Zones in order to bring foreign manufacturing to the UK. Criteria being:
1. It has to be a foreign company.
2. They will receive preferential corporation tax rates, lower than anywhere else in the world.
3. Any facilities that they build get handed over to the UK government after 20 years.
is it April 1st today?
surely the biggest single consideration is labour costs??? how can the Uk compete with 20p-a-day Chinese stakhanovites??
Actually – no, not always. There has been a bit of an upturn in the British foundry industry because of work returning from China. Reasons? Transport costs, quality, technical superiority of British foundries, shorter turnround times, faster resolving of technical problems. Price isn’t always the deciding factor.
On high-tech, high-spec. goods, the Chinese can’t compete. Their advantage lies in the mass-manufacture of low to medium spec. products. At the moment…
What about the UK companies in the area, will they be discriminated against with higher taxes because they are not foreign?
Smig, are you Chinese by any chance, cos your not feckin English with ideas like that!
> Price isn’t always the deciding factor.
In my experience price is very rarely the deciding factor. Hence cost-benefit analysis.
@ Engineer:
‘There has been a bit of an upturn in the British foundry industry because of work returning from China’.
That and the fact the Chinese still can’t cast metals for shit.
CP – you’re right. Some of the stories are quite startling. One company producing valves for the chemical industry reported that castings from China gave problems of all sorts – dimensional inaccuracy, blowholes (a sample sawn in half was so badly porous that a British foundryman wondered how they’d actually managed to be that bad), you name it – and these castings had full QE certification (clearly falsified, on investigation).
The valve manufacturer brought their business back on-shore.
Is it just me or does all Chinese manufactured stuff fall to bits five seconds after the guarantee has expired? The idea of things lasting for a lifetime is, for many, a distant dream.
However, if I buy a German engineered product today, it will still last for years. Not so with the Chinese stuff. It appears to have built-in obsolescence. So people buy another one from the only supplier available – in many areas of manufacture …..
This measure will be repealed by Prime Minister Ed Miliband in late 2011
Another factor is they have absolutly no health and safty laws
if fifty workers get killed they just throw them out the back door and let another fifty in at the front
life and labour are cheap in china !
This Charity malarky needs a complete sort out. IMHO charity status should be restricted to organisations that provide practical help to people in need.
And just to add. Tony Blair is the perfect example of Charity status exploitation and how to rake in the cash.
Maybe you need to go on the Charity Commission website more often. Charities are not allowed to do any ‘political’ work, i.e. try to influence a piece of legislation or campaign to abolish it or to campaign for a political party. they can instead campaign for an existing piece of legislation to be implemented. If you want to campaign for the neo-teo-con (i thought they disappeared with GWB), start an organisation that is not a charity and pay taxes. if you don’t want to pay taxes but still have a say in UK politics, ask Lord Ashcroft for advice.
Any straight honest mps ?
Fawkes we weren’t fooled by your last post. Leave our friends alone.
Peter Mandleson?
What’s the problem? The comment is relevant to the aims of the charity, it was hardly likely to influence the outcome of the election because it was directed at Americans and it doesn’t exhort people to vote one way or the other.
The question, really, is whether this organisation is actually a charity at all as opposed to a political organisation. The comment doesn’t shed any light on that question.
IMHO all organisations of people should be tax free. Tax their land instead.
and philanthropic landowners will gladly absorb these new taxes, without passing them on in higher prices?
hmm…..
See the Law of Rent… No they can’t.
rambling 19th century bollocks that says “they’ll charge as much as they can”.
I’d add a supplement: “they’ll charge even more if they think they can”
They already do charge as much as they can, that’s the whole point.
I am disagreeing with that point.
And if all landlords in a particular area were able to increase their prices in unison, based on an external “excuse” (not really an excuse, a cost), they bloody well would.
Its also hardly politically expedient or even politically possible to be asking to swap all the current taxes, to take a massive wedge out of landlord’s pockets. As if it can all come from them.
Where’s all this odd rhetoric come from?
Well the natural law party would be quids in with that. no-one else.
Do a L. Ron Hubbard you know you want to.
Cameron is making enemies faster than Blair at the moment. When the time comes, he will have more knives in his back than Harrods utensils department
The Internal Revenue Service?
Indeed it is – correction needed Guido!
Hi , My names Tim Lovejoy and i am a legend with no fake charities .
Nice one you complete spaz
I’m still here.
But you’re not all there.
Unfortunately
Leave those Ugandan kids alone. Noncing is noncing whatever part of the world it happens in.
I need my internal serviced! Wahey!
I’ll be pwime minister by October.
No ewe won’t.
Fox is a dodgy name
And his eyes are too close together…
And his ears look funny
And he’s Scotch.
Whats worse scotland or Gaza ?
Scotland has the eyeless Brown,therefore Scotland.
Gaza has terrorism and political strife. Scotland has rain and midges.
Not much in it, really…
I love it when people say Scotch. The Scotch hate it.
I think you you mean “Scots” @ 17.
Scotch is for drinking.
They may hate it, but they guzzle enough of it. Should Scotch be reserved for the Scotch?
Jockinese.
There are various definitions of “Scotch”.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Scotch
‘Scotch’ is the English adjective meaning ‘of or pertaining to Scotland’. (Compare ‘French’ and ‘Dutch’). Scotch whisky is so called because it comes from Scotland. It’s only in modern times that the Scotch, for some reason of folk etymology, have decided that they want to be called ‘Scots’ or ‘Scottish’. Ignore them; it’s our language, not theirs.
“Never mind my grace, lassie; just speak out a plain tale, and show you have a Scotch tongue in your head.” – Sir Walter Scott, The Heart of Midlothian.
And here’s me thinking its more likely to be Nick Hornby writing books about football.
Yes: and then the P.C. department got to work on revising History: I’m almost certainly not allowed to write now what Dvorak oirginally called his now ‘American’ Quartet – but (despite howls of feigned injury from North of Hadrian’s Wall) Mendelssohn certainly called his Symphony ‘Scotch’. Do the Welsh insist on being referred to as Cymry? Do the Irish insist on being called Erse? Do the Cornish insist that they’re Kernow? Do the Bretons constantly correct people, and say,’ No, it’s Brythonic’? For Heavens’ sake: we’ll soon be talking not about Pekin but ‘Bayjhing’, about ‘Mumbye’ not Bombai, not about Benares, but…
Oh! Remind me: what is the Capital city of France (sorry, ‘La France’ – even sorrier, ‘La Belle France’)? Oh, not Paris any more, it’s got to be called ‘Paree’, has it?
Gay Paree?
And he has a bushy tail
Da Fos, name of the MP that set the precedent that a MP cannot be subject to “vexatious arrest” while going about their parliamentary duties (which was ignored by JJ Smith(which was ignored by MSM)), is the Dutch for Fox.
Where is Paragnostic? We have to talk about Archilocus.
πόλλ’ οἶδ’ ἀλώπηξ, ἀλλ’ ἐχῖνος ἓν μέγα
The fox knows many things; the hedgehog knows one big thing.
Shouldn’t that be ‘poll”, rather than ‘noll”?
…and, come to that, eleppou, rather than alopex (or are we talking about a particularly mangy fox?)?
This one does not appear good. That is the big thing it does not know. To much into hip-hop!
OOOOOOh….
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Oh dear. What is the Charity in aid of? Lining the pockets of desperately needy, crippled and crooked politicians.
No, thats the Smith Institute you’re thinking of – the one that paid Blinky for ‘research’ papers. And had the free food and drink scam, at No. 11 , paid for by the tax payer.
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He’ll enjoy Bolton after the oppressive heat and sultry senoritas of Madrid.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11672_6281483,00.html
Mind the slappers Alonso.
Never mind the slappers, here’s the Macc Lads.
Does he cheat at football as well as F1?
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Constitooents is how the Scotch git pronounces it. Obviously that is how a git gets through to gits.
He was thinking of his new PPS.
What an opportunist Ed Balls really is
Ed Balls happy to team up with Guido Fawkes !!!!!!!!!
Do stop slobbering Martin.
The return of the sith
Ben Bradshaw off to a gay nudist beech for his hols. No wonder he looked exited on the Daily Politics Show
A nudist beech? Do they have nudist oaks, ashes and elms as well? (Better not nudist pines – those needles….)
They’ll all be nudists come autumn (except the pines).
Well the botanical name for ‘beech’ is ‘Fagus’. Fag-us. Geddit?
Was contemplating some beechwood furniture for my bedroom. Might think again now….
I like the idea of his being ‘exited’ – perhaps ‘Exit left, pursued by a Bear’…
Give me Jo Coburn on a nudist beach any day. Soon.
If ash before oak we’re in for a soak.
If oak before ash we’re in for a splash.
Get the mind bleach ready -
The splash is from Bradshaw’s dishonourable member…………….
Thinking about it, the best place for Bradshaw would be a nudist holly.
I suggest that if you have a braincells between your ears that you bleed as mcuh money from this country as you can, legally and illegally and do a runner to somewhere before Turkey gets into the EU and the former country known as the UK truly becomes third world.
could do with better kebabs
and think of the money you’ll save not changing sterling-euro-Turkish lira and back again
It’s not only Turkey you should be worried about, it’s who will pass through Turkey to get here that you should also worry about.
Check a map out.
but we’re extolling Adam Smith up above? Isn’t free movement of labour pure pornography to the true believer?
You and I know it doesn’t work, but the theory is great…..
Ah, the free movement of Labour scam.
Presumably they’re needed to ‘do the jobs the lazy [insert name of your native population here] won’t do’.
Or in real English, ‘to do the jobs us employers won’t fucking pay a proper wage for’.
The real puzzle is why people will trek all the way from Katowice to London to take a job when they wont get off the sofa in Merthyr to make the trip.
We pay those in Merthyr to stay on their sofas.
No puzzle, just the rather obvious disparity in living costs between here and Poland.
Poles work in Britain because it makes economic sense for Poles. If it didn’t, they wouldn’t be here. They aint here out of the goodness of their hearts.
Conversely, no amount of working on a minimum wage job is going to buy you a property anywhere in the UK.
In madhouse Britain, the chattering classes want rock bottom wages and sky-high property prices/rents. They cheer when whole sections of British industry are closed down, take a perverse delight in importing millions of immigrants, and then wonder why there are millions of ‘work shy’ chavs in places like Merthyr.
What I find curious is that the number of work shy in Merthyr increased just as the pits closed.
Dave Cameron = a sham, a mug, a con artist.
We have been cheated.
every con artist needs a willing victim. if people are stupid enough to believe these people what do they expect?
He must have lots and lots and lots and lots of bestest friends – in Turkey – after his recitation today, though.
Offering to become their junior partner in the EU is about the only thing he left out.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-10767768
And lots & lots & lots & lots of bestest Hamas friends also.
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Typical, The Conservatives have been on power for 3 months and already the are Fox hunting
http://undhimmi.com/2010/07/25/muslim-extremist-to-lead-police-liaison-unit-once-again/
The Dhimmification of the British Police Service is at an advanced stage:
An Islamic extremist who has described al-Qaeda as a “myth” and justified the killing of British troops in Iraq has been chosen as the main link between the Metropolitan Police and the Muslim community.
Scotland Yard will now face pressure to renounce Azad Ali, the new chair of the Muslim Safety Forum, which is recognised by the Met under a formal written agreement as “the principal body in relation to Muslim community safety and security”.
The deal says that the Met will “use the MSF as a consultation body to help formulate policy or practice”. Mr Ali was the founding chair of the MSF in 2006, but left that job in 2008 and resigned entirely from the group last year after publicity over his extremist comments. Last week, he was quietly reappointed as its chairman
Dishonest crooks are the norm in our society.Nothing new in that.Look at the HoP,local councils,consultation/advisory bodies etc. Been like it for years & will never be any different.
Sooner people realise mindless loyalty to a corrupt, self-serving political establishment is not patriotism, the better.
David Cameron: “Those who wilfully misunderstand Islam, they see no difference between real Islam and the distorted version of the extremists.”
Surely, he couldn’t have been referring to the Met.
Could he?
David ‘heir to Blair’ needs a good talking to by Geert.
That he proposes 74,000,000 repeat 74 MILLION more muslims should have free access to this country and its benefits, schools, hospitals and housing shows a wilful misunderstanding of just about everything.
The man is an utter lying traitor.
See anything about finally totally islamifying England in the Tory manifesto?
Forget about the met – its the whole bloody country he is giving to Allah!
What Wavie Davie knows about Islam could probably fit on the back of a postage stamp.
Post-democracy means we must all idly stand by and watch our countries disappear in the interests of mercantile greed and political agendas subscribed to by very few outside of the elites themselves.
Gordon. Haggis pie for dinner!
Thwap!
Thwap!
Thwap!
Ah’m just seeing to Aberdeen Angus. He’s a right big beastie!
Thwap!
Thwap!
Thwap!
Just coming the noo!
Urgghhh!
This woman doesn’t like Liam.
For anyone interested in Ed Balls, you can see him now on Sky Arts ch 257, playing the role of Nemorino in my opera L’Elisir d’Amore from that stuck up auditorium at Glyndebourne
Liam Fox, the shadow defence secretary, the Conservative frontbencher with the highest expenses repayment after his appeal against a request to return £22,500 was rejected.
Another trougher that thinks the British Taxpayer owes him a living….
And he thinks that he should live in Number 10 Downing Street. Dangerous Hoon!
Seems to me the heir to Blair has just lost every scrap of Tory clothing he never wore except to the idiots who elected him leader over David Davis.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1297906/Turkey-join-EU-says-Cameron-Those-playing-fears-Islam.html
A sheep in wolfs clothing?
A bloody bleeding heart liberal in Tory blue (er sorry – green blue) more like.
The man is insane.
We are fooked.
Still a million time better than McCyclops.
Thats like saying here eating your own shit now instead of someone elses is better for you….
Your still eating shit at the end of the day!!!
How?
[DM]> those who ‘wilfully misunderstand Islam … see no difference between real Islam and the distorted version of the extremists. They think the values of Islam can never be compatible with the values of other religions, societies or cultures.’
So, Dave, you think you understand Islam? Have you ever heard of usury? Do you know what the Qur’an is? Do you know what the Qur’an says about usury? Dave, are you a muppet? Or a continuation of the 5th Column?
Those who ‘wilfully misunderstand Islam’ end up living under its 7th century barbarity, Dave.
Ask the Serbs who many in your cabinet, notably crap Maude, supported the illegal attack against.
They know what happens when you let them in and let them breed and build Saudi funded mosques. You lose the historic heart of your country.
When will Bradford/Leeds declare UDI and ‘we are the majority now’.
Manchester, Biormingham, Leicester – no stopping them now thanks to bloody NATO.
What you going to do Dave. Give it all to them? Hand it over. You will have to with half the Islamic population of Turkey pouring in as reinforcements.
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i cut my balls on a barbed wire fence
I’m writin ma book ye ken and I cannae understand why Spell Check gets so manny words wrong – such as ‘arogant’, ‘Torie’, ‘basterd’, ‘betrail’, ‘incompitant’, ‘neo-endgodgeneous’ and ‘investiment’.
tops up
belly wobble
This Charity of Fox’s. What does it do in the waqy of charitable works?
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danielhannan/100048633/david-cameron-is-right-the-eu-is-treating-turkey-abominably/
Why on earth should the Turks want to join th EUSSR?
So it’s not just Cameron, they’re all the bloody same.
1 many are dirt poor and want a nice free western house, mod cons and free income, schooling and everything else on offer.
2 They want to extend Islam into the worldwide caliphate. Every little helps. Europe is already toppling as they breed at a dozen times the western rate.
Get real.
The only problem with this country that I can see is the lack of 70 million Turks. Thank Allah that Dave al Tosser is on top of the problem.
Clegg and Cameronand Ed Balls and Guido Fawkes are pissing off Middle England
Just heard Dave saying that the Israelis attacked that provocative political stirring aid Flotilla.
Get this straight Dave all the Israelis were doing was stop and search policing by boarding party. On the very last ship the boarding party was attacked by a murderous mob and the boarding party defended itself.
THE ISRAELIS DID NOT ATTACK THAT FLOTILLA DAVE.
Anymore of this crap from Dave and I’ll be wishing Gordon was back.
Not the way most people saw it
If someone enters your property
you can defend it simple !
Whose property?
It was murder and piracy in international waters
The property of the people on the boats
read the fucking posts !
Crossed wires – I guess we are on the same side. No need to get nasty. train your invective on our common enemy the murderous thugs….
Is this the same story that Political Scrapbook ran in April this year?
http://politicalscrapbook.net/tag/george-osborne/
Three-quarters of the way down.
Paul Stephenson of the Met says it is “inappropriate” to comment about the CPS decision not to prosecute the policeman so publicly involved in Ian Tomlinson’s death. The copper concerned is up for a charge of …wait for it ….gross misconduct.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jul/27/ian-tomlinson-death-paul-stephenson
So neither the police nor the MPs are willing to comment on this gross injustice. Says a lot about the authorities in this country don’t it
Once upon a time half of traffic wardens were those who were failed out of the Met police for being too aggressive with the general public. That officer had two complaints for being over aggressive before the Tomlinson incident.
Oh dear oh dear oh dear. What is the world coming to? It seems like none of us ain’t not allowed to have a special relationship nowadays no more.
Maybe it’s not such a bad thing, mind. My great grandchild Vegas-Madonna got pregnant again the other day for the fifth time and she said it was all to do with her special relationship
Poor William, has had to betray his country, regiment, school, ideals, family and people, just to keep his job.
Eu coward ! A word I use here for the first time, for an ex-member of HM’s services.
Remember the Latvians and other who betrayed their countries for favours.
Only the British saved them.
We’ll be waiting for Eu in the free world,when Eu run. Turn-coat.
Who taught Eu Russian Liam ?
Woops, is there any difference in any of our politicians?
INTERNAL Revenue Service, Guido.
Fox should simply point out that a blatant tax cheat called Timothy Geithner got off with no penalties, and is now Treasury Secretary, and the head of the IRS. “Fox” in charge of chicken coop etc. etc. But quite honestly, if the IRS push this, given Geithner’s exemption and apparent immunity, Fox should just tell them to fuck off until they prove themselves to be less criminal than the people they police. And not just Fox. The entire rest of the world.
Writing on the 27th July, you say “…today he now learns that it is under investigation from the Inland Revenue Service”
I would say that even the report that you mention from thirsdesctor.co.uk is dated 20th April.
Who’s out of the loop? Did he really only just find that out on 27th July?
Here’s a skit on their original site: http://www.brianmoylan.info/theatlanticbridge/ made about 18 month ago.