July 27th, 2010

Cameron Endorsement Costs Fox IRS Investigation

It just gets worse for Liam Fox. After yesterday’s slamming from the Charity Commission for his farcical neo-con charity Atlantic Bridge, today he now learns that it is under investigation from the Inland Revenue Service. Apparently the Yanks are not overly impressed with the tax-exempt status the charity had if it was flouting the rules. This seems to have been the problem:

“Americans should look forward to May 6, after which Cameron and his government will likely assume power. He will be good for America and better for the Special Relationship.”

Bet Dave wishes his blundering Defence Secretary was still that loyal…

156 Comments

  1. 1
    Engineer says:

    Any news on the other “charities” being investigated by the Charities Commission? Or, being Labour-supporting charities (!), are they in the clear?

  2. 2
    Gone Fuckin mental says:

    Any straight honest mps ?

  3. 3
    Sir William Waad says:

    What’s the problem? The comment is relevant to the aims of the charity, it was hardly likely to influence the outcome of the election because it was directed at Americans and it doesn’t exhort people to vote one way or the other.

    The question, really, is whether this organisation is actually a charity at all as opposed to a political organisation. The comment doesn’t shed any light on that question.

  4. 4
  5. 5
    Dave Miscavage says:

    Do a L. Ron Hubbard you know you want to.

  6. 6

    Cameron is making enemies faster than Blair at the moment. When the time comes, he will have more knives in his back than Harrods utensils department

  7. 7
    Anonymous says:

    The Internal Revenue Service?

  8. 8
    Tim Lovejoy says:

    Hi , My names Tim Lovejoy and i am a legend with no fake charities .

  9. 9
    Gordon Brown says:

    I’m still here.

  10. 10
    Marc Oh Ten says:

    I need my internal serviced! Wahey!

  11. 11
    Ed Balls says:

    I’ll be pwime minister by October.

  12. 12
    Gone fuckin mental says:

    Fox is a dodgy name

  13. 13
    Anonymous says:

    yeah right. Believe it when you see it….

  14. 14
    Engineer says:

    And his eyes are too close together…

  15. 15
    Knesset says:

    Fawkes we weren’t fooled by your last post. Leave our friends alone.

  16. 16
    Gone fuckin mental says:

    And his ears look funny

  17. 17
    Scotland is hell says:

    And he’s Scotch.

  18. 18
    When is a charity not a charity? says:

    This Charity malarky needs a complete sort out. IMHO charity status should be restricted to organisations that provide practical help to people in need.

  19. 19
    Engineer says:

    Hmmm… so that MIGHT move 1.8 million people from Incapacity Benefit to Jobseeker’s Allowance and a range of other benefits to cover basic bills.

    There are undoubtedly some scroungers on IB. There are also people who genuinely deserve it. Then there’s a grey area between the two.

    The only real answer is lots more jobs available not drawing on the public purse, and that’s a harder problem…

  20. 20
    Gone fuckin mental says:

    Whats worse scotland or Gaza ?

  21. 21
    Scotland is hell says:

    Scotland has the eyeless Brown,therefore Scotland.

  22. 22
    When is a charity not a charity? says:

    And just to add. Tony Blair is the perfect example of Charity status exploitation and how to rake in the cash.

  23. 23
    Lil Olmey says:

    But you’re not all there.

  24. 24
    Can’t remember my moniker says:

    Where is Paragnostic? We have to talk about Archilocus.

    πόλλ’ οἶδ’ ἀλώπηξ, ἀλλ’ ἐχῖνος ἓν μέγα
    The fox knows many things; the hedgehog knows one big thing.

  25. 25

    OOOOOOh….

    http://www.theatlanticbridge.com/ “This site is currently being updated”

  26. 26
    AC1 says:

    Perhaps they should cut the fines (taxation) for employing people, people working, investment (that creates jobs) and saving (to fund that investment)…

    Just saying….

    What to replace the revenue?

    Ground-rents are a still more proper subject of taxation than the rent of houses. A tax upon ground-rents would not raise the rents of houses. It would fall altogether upon the owner of the ground-rent, who acts always as a monopolist, and exacts the greatest rent which can be got for the use of his ground. More or less can be got for it according as the competitors happen to be richer or poorer, or can afford to gratify their fancy for a particular spot of ground at a greater or smaller expense. In every country the greatest number of rich competitors is in the capital, and it is there accordingly that the highest ground-rents are always to be found. As the wealth of those competitors would in no respect be increased by a tax upon ground-rents, they would not probably be disposed to pay more for the use of the ground. Whether the tax was to be advanced by the inhabitant, or by the owner of the ground, would be of little importance. The more the inhabitant was obliged to pay for the tax, the less he would incline to pay for the ground; so that the final payment of the tax would fall altogether upon the owner of the ground-rent.

    – Adam Smith , The Wealth of Nations, Book V, Chapter 2, Article I: Taxes upon the Rent of Houses

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_value_tax

  27. 27
    Sly says:

    Oh dear. What is the Charity in aid of? Lining the pockets of desperately needy, crippled and crooked politicians.

  28. 28
    Benjamin Netanguidoh says:

    We’re all defending Israel together

  29. 29
    AC1 says:

    Or even

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Rent

    Which explains why as land prices rise, (due to credit expansion and deliberate policy of preventing land development in Britain) we are getting poorer.

    Also relative wages are maintained post tax (not pre-tax) so progressive taxation of incomes has the effect of lowering the wages of the poor.

  30. 30
    Gone fuckin mental says:

    Breaking News

    Bolton sign Alonso from Real Madrid

  31. 31
    AC1 says:

    IMHO all organisations of people should be tax free. Tax their land instead.

  32. 32
    Con TIT uents? says:

    Contact Me

    You can contact me using the form below.

    Please note due to strict parliamentary protocol MPs can only take up casework enquiries on behalf of their own contituents, so please do include your postcode with your message.

    Best wishes,

    Gordon

    http://www.gordonbrown.org.uk/contact_me

  33. 33
    Martin Day BBC political correspondent says:

    What an opportunist Ed Balls really is

    Ed Balls happy to team up with Guido Fawkes !!!!!!!!!

  34. 34
    GrimeLord says:

    Nice one you complete spaz

  35. 35
    Anonymous says:

    ok, so instead of £400 to rent a house let’s have £200 for the house and £250 for the land (increased due to tax).

    So we’ve validated Adam Smith, but, er, tenant seems to have lost out….?

  36. 36
    the beast of clerkenwell says:

    The return of the sith

  37. 37
    Willy Zout says:

    Ben Bradshaw off to a gay nudist beech for his hols. No wonder he looked exited on the Daily Politics Show

  38. 38
    I think we've been had says:

    I suggest that if you have a braincells between your ears that you bleed as mcuh money from this country as you can, legally and illegally and do a runner to somewhere before Turkey gets into the EU and the former country known as the UK truly becomes third world.

  39. 39
    if in doubt... says:

    Maybe you need to go on the Charity Commission website more often. Charities are not allowed to do any ‘political’ work, i.e. try to influence a piece of legislation or campaign to abolish it or to campaign for a political party. they can instead campaign for an existing piece of legislation to be implemented. If you want to campaign for the neo-teo-con (i thought they disappeared with GWB), start an organisation that is not a charity and pay taxes. if you don’t want to pay taxes but still have a say in UK politics, ask Lord Ashcroft for advice.

  40. 40
    I think we've been had says:

    Dave Cameron = a sham, a mug, a con artist.

    We have been cheated.

  41. 41
    Atlantic Bridge says:

    This site is currently being updated.

    http://www.theatlanticbridge.com/

  42. 42
    Anonymous says:

    could do with better kebabs

    and think of the money you’ll save not changing sterling-euro-Turkish lira and back again

  43. 43
    I use the red flag as toilet paper says:

    Unfortunately

  44. 44
    Engineer says:

    Gaza has terrorism and political strife. Scotland has rain and midges.

    Not much in it, really…

  45. 45
    I use the red flag as toilet paper says:

    I love it when people say Scotch. The Scotch hate it.

  46. 46
    I think we've been had says:

    It’s not only Turkey you should be worried about, it’s who will pass through Turkey to get here that you should also worry about.

    Check a map out.

  47. 47
    Anonymous says:

    every con artist needs a willing victim. if people are stupid enough to believe these people what do they expect?

  48. 48
    Engineer says:

    He’ll enjoy Bolton after the oppressive heat and sultry senoritas of Madrid.

  49. 49
    I use the red flag as toilet paper says:

    Constitooents is how the Scotch git pronounces it. Obviously that is how a git gets through to gits.

  50. 50
    AC1 says:

    http://undhimmi.com/2010/07/25/muslim-extremist-to-lead-police-liaison-unit-once-again/

    The Dhimmification of the British Police Service is at an advanced stage:

    An Islamic extremist who has described al-Qaeda as a “myth” and justified the killing of British troops in Iraq has been chosen as the main link between the Metropolitan Police and the Muslim community.

    Scotland Yard will now face pressure to renounce Azad Ali, the new chair of the Muslim Safety Forum, which is recognised by the Met under a formal written agreement as “the principal body in relation to Muslim community safety and security”.

    The deal says that the Met will “use the MSF as a consultation body to help formulate policy or practice”. Mr Ali was the founding chair of the MSF in 2006, but left that job in 2008 and resigned entirely from the group last year after publicity over his extremist comments. Last week, he was quietly reappointed as its chairman

  51. 51
    Engineer says:

    He was thinking of his new PPS.

  52. 52
    Anonymous says:

    and philanthropic landowners will gladly absorb these new taxes, without passing them on in higher prices?

    hmm…..

  53. 53
  54. 54
    Smig says:

    Make it cheaper to manufacture here than it is in China.

    Create Special Economic Zones in order to bring foreign manufacturing to the UK. Criteria being:
    1. It has to be a foreign company.
    2. They will receive preferential corporation tax rates, lower than anywhere else in the world.
    3. Any facilities that they build get handed over to the UK government after 20 years.

  55. 55
    Engineer says:

    A nudist beech? Do they have nudist oaks, ashes and elms as well? (Better not nudist pines – those needles….)

  56. 56
    AC1 says:

    Ricardos law of rent, says not…

    Unfortunately it’s in moderation..

  57. 57
    sockpuppet #4 says:

    Sounds a lot like you just want council tax, and nothing else.
    Thats how it would translate in modern terms: Massive increase in council tax, esp in richer cities.

    Do you live in a tiny bedsit in hull or something?

  58. 58
    Anonymous says:

    is it April 1st today?

    surely the biggest single consideration is labour costs??? how can the Uk compete with 20p-a-day Chinese stakhanovites??

  59. 59
    Martin Day says:

    This measure will be repealed by Prime Minister Ed Miliband in late 2011

  60. 60
    Anonymous says:

    I think you you mean “Scots” @ 17.
    Scotch is for drinking.

  61. 61
    Anonymous says:

    AC1 – if all land is taxed then all landlord’s costs will increase; ipso ergo all rents will increase??

  62. 62
    Engineer says:

    They may hate it, but they guzzle enough of it. Should Scotch be reserved for the Scotch?

  63. 63
    sockpuppet #4 says:

    Well the natural law party would be quids in with that. no-one else.

  64. 64
    Autononymous says:

    Jockinese.

  65. 65
    Anonymous says:

    but we’re extolling Adam Smith up above? Isn’t free movement of labour pure pornography to the true believer?

    You and I know it doesn’t work, but the theory is great…..

  66. 66
    Scotland is hell says:

    There are various definitions of “Scotch”.

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Scotch

  67. 67
    Engineer says:

    Actually – no, not always. There has been a bit of an upturn in the British foundry industry because of work returning from China. Reasons? Transport costs, quality, technical superiority of British foundries, shorter turnround times, faster resolving of technical problems. Price isn’t always the deciding factor.

    On high-tech, high-spec. goods, the Chinese can’t compete. Their advantage lies in the mass-manufacture of low to medium spec. products. At the moment…

  68. 68
    Kylie Mince-bottom says:

    Gordon. Haggis pie for dinner!
    Thwap!
    Thwap!
    Thwap!
    Ah’m just seeing to Aberdeen Angus. He’s a right big beastie!
    Thwap!
    Thwap!
    Thwap!
    Just coming the noo!
    Urgghhh!

  69. 69
    Blair's war says:

    I think Dave will lose the support of many of us (including Fox and his partry) if he keeps kow-towing to Drama Obama. It appears no surprise he went to Turkey after his visit to the US. Why does he feel it necessary to suck up to the US, it is not up to them who enters the EU. We want less immigration not more, that is what he was elected for. Less EU rules imposed on us. Less demands from the US as an EQUAL partener. Does Dave have a backbone? He is behaving more like the hideous Blair as each day passes. The Us does not give the UK any special friendship, we all saw this over the BP disaster (the US conveniently forgets Bhopal and its tsationoxic leaks and continuing compen legal battles 25 years on).

    Wake up Dave, or you will lose all of us. Think national interest not personal interest like Blair.

  70. 70
    Ban all chavs says:

    This woman doesn’t like Liam.

  71. 71
    Sir William Waad says:

    ‘Scotch’ is the English adjective meaning ‘of or pertaining to Scotland’. (Compare ‘French’ and ‘Dutch’). Scotch whisky is so called because it comes from Scotland. It’s only in modern times that the Scotch, for some reason of folk etymology, have decided that they want to be called ‘Scots’ or ‘Scottish’. Ignore them; it’s our language, not theirs.

    “Never mind my grace, lassie; just speak out a plain tale, and show you have a Scotch tongue in your head.” – Sir Walter Scott, The Heart of Midlothian.

  72. 72
    Anonymous says:

    Dishonest crooks are the norm in our society.Nothing new in that.Look at the HoP,local councils,consultation/advisory bodies etc. Been like it for years & will never be any different.

  73. 73
    I support free movement, just so long as it doen't affect me says:

    Ah, the free movement of Labour scam.

    Presumably they’re needed to ‘do the jobs the lazy [insert name of your native population here] won’t do’.

    Or in real English, ‘to do the jobs us employers won’t fucking pay a proper wage for’.

  74. 74
    Smig in a Flintoff suit says:

    Mind the slappers Alonso.

  75. 75

    What about the UK companies in the area, will they be discriminated against with higher taxes because they are not foreign?

    Smig, are you Chinese by any chance, cos your not feckin English with ideas like that!

  76. 76
    Gaetano Donizetti says:

    For anyone interested in Ed Balls, you can see him now on Sky Arts ch 257, playing the role of Nemorino in my opera L’Elisir d’Amore from that stuck up auditorium at Glyndebourne

  77. 77
    albacore says:

    He must have lots and lots and lots and lots of bestest friends – in Turkey – after his recitation today, though.
    Offering to become their junior partner in the EU is about the only thing he left out.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-10767768

  78. 78
    Anonymous says:

    Sooner people realise mindless loyalty to a corrupt, self-serving political establishment is not patriotism, the better.

  79. 79
    Taxfodder says:

    Liam Fox, the shadow defence secretary, the Conservative frontbencher with the highest expenses repayment after his appeal against a request to return £22,500 was rejected.

    Another trougher that thinks the British Taxpayer owes him a living….

  80. 80
    sockpuppet #4 says:

    And here’s me thinking its more likely to be Nick Hornby writing books about football.

  81. 81
    Maximus says:

    Leave those Ugandan kids alone. Noncing is noncing whatever part of the world it happens in.

  82. 82
  83. 83
    AC1 says:

    Not true that rents will increase. Read the law of rent. Rents will go up as the wages increases however.

  84. 84
    Pholeas Figg says:

    They’ll all be nudists come autumn (except the pines).

  85. 85
    Violent Lizabeth Bott says:

    No ewe won’t.

  86. 86
    AC1 says:

    > Price isn’t always the deciding factor.

    In my experience price is very rarely the deciding factor. Hence cost-benefit analysis.

  87. 87
    God help us says:

    Seems to me the heir to Blair has just lost every scrap of Tory clothing he never wore except to the idiots who elected him leader over David Davis.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1297906/Turkey-join-EU-says-Cameron-Those-playing-fears-Islam.html

    A sheep in wolfs clothing?

    A bloody bleeding heart liberal in Tory blue (er sorry – green blue) more like.
    The man is insane.

  88. 88
    albacore says:

    David Cameron: “Those who wilfully misunderstand Islam, they see no difference between real Islam and the distorted version of the extremists.”
    Surely, he couldn’t have been referring to the Met.
    Could he?

  89. 89
    Anonymous says:

    Does he cheat at football as well as F1?

  90. 90
    John Thomas says:

    Give me Jo Coburn on a nudist beach any day. Soon.

  91. 91
    Backwoodsman says:

    No, thats the Smith Institute you’re thinking of – the one that paid Blinky for ‘research’ papers. And had the free food and drink scam, at No. 11 , paid for by the tax payer.

  92. 92
    BBC cleaner says:

    Do stop slobbering Martin.

  93. 93
    I think we've been had says:

    We are fooked.

  94. 94
    AC1 says:

    See the Law of Rent… No they can’t.

  95. 95
    Basil Brush says:

    Typical, The Conservatives have been on power for 3 months and already the are Fox hunting

  96. 96
    Sir William Waad says:

    The real puzzle is why people will trek all the way from Katowice to London to take a job when they wont get off the sofa in Merthyr to make the trip.

  97. 97
    Sir William Waad says:

    Well the botanical name for ‘beech’ is ‘Fagus’. Fag-us. Geddit?

  98. 98
    Down with Brown! says:

    And he thinks that he should live in Number 10 Downing Street. Dangerous Hoon!

  99. 99
    Down with Brown! says:

    Still a million time better than McCyclops.

  100. 100
    Gordon's Little Helper Tweet says:

    Proud: http://www.gordonbrown.org.uk/gordon-brown-announces-pps :-) #fb

    about 4 hours ago via web

    http://twitter.com/alison_mcgovern

  101. 101
    Bertice Stinkfinger says:

    i cut my balls on a barbed wire fence

  102. 102
    Gordon Brown says:

    I’m writin ma book ye ken and I cannae understand why Spell Check gets so manny words wrong – such as ‘arogant’, ‘Torie’, ‘basterd’, ‘betrail’, ‘incompitant’, ‘neo-endgodgeneous’ and ‘investiment’.

  103. 103
    I think we've been had says:

    Thats like saying here eating your own shit now instead of someone elses is better for you….

    Your still eating shit at the end of the day!!!

  104. 104
    101nd says:

    tops up
    belly wobble

  105. 105
    God help us says:

    How?

  106. 106
    Mother Teresa says:

    This Charity of Fox’s. What does it do in the waqy of charitable works?

  107. 107
    Maximus says:

    [DM]> those who ‘wilfully misunderstand Islam … see no difference between real Islam and the distorted version of the extremists. They think the values of Islam can never be compatible with the values of other religions, societies or cultures.’

    So, Dave, you think you understand Islam? Have you ever heard of usury? Do you know what the Qur’an is? Do you know what the Qur’an says about usury? Dave, are you a muppet? Or a continuation of the 5th Column?

  108. 108

    @ Engineer:

    ‘There has been a bit of an upturn in the British foundry industry because of work returning from China’.

    That and the fact the Chinese still can’t cast metals for shit.

  109. 109
  110. 110
    sockpuppet #4 says:

    rambling 19th century bollocks that says “they’ll charge as much as they can”.

    I’d add a supplement: “they’ll charge even more if they think they can”

  111. 111
    God help us says:

    David ‘heir to Blair’ needs a good talking to by Geert.
    That he proposes 74,000,000 repeat 74 MILLION more muslims should have free access to this country and its benefits, schools, hospitals and housing shows a wilful misunderstanding of just about everything.
    The man is an utter lying traitor.
    See anything about finally totally islamifying England in the Tory manifesto?
    Forget about the met – its the whole bloody country he is giving to Allah!

  112. 112
    Lord Nelson? Mad! says:

    Peter Mandleson?

  113. 113
    Cunningly disguised says:

    And he has a bushy tail

  114. 114
    Limo Fax says:

    Da Fos, name of the MP that set the precedent that a MP cannot be subject to “vexatious arrest” while going about their parliamentary duties (which was ignored by JJ Smith(which was ignored by MSM)), is the Dutch for Fox.

  115. 115
    Martin Day BBC political correspondent says:

    Clegg and Cameronand Ed Balls and Guido Fawkes are pissing off Middle England

  116. 116
    AC1 says:

    We pay those in Merthyr to stay on their sofas.

  117. 117
    Dave you are becoming a big let down. says:

    Just heard Dave saying that the Israelis attacked that provocative political stirring aid Flotilla.

    Get this straight Dave all the Israelis were doing was stop and search policing by boarding party. On the very last ship the boarding party was attacked by a murderous mob and the boarding party defended itself.

    THE ISRAELIS DID NOT ATTACK THAT FLOTILLA DAVE.

    Anymore of this crap from Dave and I’ll be wishing Gordon was back.

  118. 118
    AC1 says:

    They already do charge as much as they can, that’s the whole point.

  119. 119
    Engineer says:

    CP – you’re right. Some of the stories are quite startling. One company producing valves for the chemical industry reported that castings from China gave problems of all sorts – dimensional inaccuracy, blowholes (a sample sawn in half was so badly porous that a British foundryman wondered how they’d actually managed to be that bad), you name it – and these castings had full QE certification (clearly falsified, on investigation).

    The valve manufacturer brought their business back on-shore.

  120. 120
    Old country sayings says:

    If ash before oak we’re in for a soak.
    If oak before ash we’re in for a splash.

    Get the mind bleach ready –
    The splash is from Bradshaw’s dishonourable member…………….

  121. 121
    Engineer says:

    Was contemplating some beechwood furniture for my bedroom. Might think again now….

  122. 122
    Can’t remember my moniker says:

    Is it just me or does all Chinese manufactured stuff fall to bits five seconds after the guarantee has expired? The idea of things lasting for a lifetime is, for many, a distant dream.

    However, if I buy a German engineered product today, it will still last for years. Not so with the Chinese stuff. It appears to have built-in obsolescence. So people buy another one from the only supplier available – in many areas of manufacture …..

  123. 123
    Engineer says:

    Thinking about it, the best place for Bradshaw would be a nudist holly.

  124. 124
    Ivor Biggun says:

    Indeed it is – correction needed Guido!

  125. 125
    Anonymous says:

    So it’s not just Cameron, they’re all the bloody same.

  126. 126
    John Thomas says:

    Blair’s war
    Well he looks look B’Liar because he is the heir of B’Liar isn’t he!!!!!

  127. 127
    DAVES TURKISH DELIGHT says:

    Another factor is they have absolutly no health and safty laws
    if fifty workers get killed they just throw them out the back door and let another fifty in at the front
    life and labour are cheap in china !

  128. 128
    Why won’t British people work for a wage I wouldn’t get out of bed for says:

    No puzzle, just the rather obvious disparity in living costs between here and Poland.

    Poles work in Britain because it makes economic sense for Poles. If it didn’t, they wouldn’t be here. They aint here out of the goodness of their hearts.

    Conversely, no amount of working on a minimum wage job is going to buy you a property anywhere in the UK.

    In madhouse Britain, the chattering classes want rock bottom wages and sky-high property prices/rents. They cheer when whole sections of British industry are closed down, take a perverse delight in importing millions of immigrants, and then wonder why there are millions of ‘work shy’ chavs in places like Merthyr.

  129. 129
    Sir William Waad says:

    Is this the same story that Political Scrapbook ran in April this year?

    http://politicalscrapbook.net/tag/george-osborne/

    Three-quarters of the way down.

  130. 130
    Eunonymous says:

    Paul Stephenson of the Met says it is “inappropriate” to comment about the CPS decision not to prosecute the policeman so publicly involved in Ian Tomlinson’s death. The copper concerned is up for a charge of …wait for it ….gross misconduct.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jul/27/ian-tomlinson-death-paul-stephenson

    So neither the police nor the MPs are willing to comment on this gross injustice. Says a lot about the authorities in this country don’t it

  131. 131
    MIDDLE EAST BULLY BOYS says:

    Not the way most people saw it
    If someone enters your property
    you can defend it simple !

  132. 132
    cant hunter says:

    Cameron is becoming a complete and utter arse. I suppose they all do eventually, and some, like Brown, are arses before. Shouldn’t every PM have an aide whispering into his ear on foreign trips ; ‘engage the brain and think things through before you pass an opinion’.

  133. 133
    Jethro says:

    Yes: and then the P.C. department got to work on revising History: I’m almost certainly not allowed to write now what Dvorak oirginally called his now ‘American’ Quartet – but (despite howls of feigned injury from North of Hadrian’s Wall) Mendelssohn certainly called his Symphony ‘Scotch’. Do the Welsh insist on being referred to as Cymry? Do the Irish insist on being called Erse? Do the Cornish insist that they’re Kernow? Do the Bretons constantly correct people, and say,’ No, it’s Brythonic’? For Heavens’ sake: we’ll soon be talking not about Pekin but ‘Bayjhing’, about ‘Mumbye’ not Bombai, not about Benares, but…
    Oh! Remind me: what is the Capital city of France (sorry, ‘La France’ – even sorrier, ‘La Belle France’)? Oh, not Paris any more, it’s got to be called ‘Paree’, has it?

  134. 134
    God help us says:

    1 many are dirt poor and want a nice free western house, mod cons and free income, schooling and everything else on offer.
    2 They want to extend Islam into the worldwide caliphate. Every little helps. Europe is already toppling as they breed at a dozen times the western rate.
    Get real.

  135. 135
    God help us says:

    Whose property?
    It was murder and piracy in international waters

  136. 136
    MIDDLE EAST BULLY BOYS says:

    The property of the people on the boats
    read the fucking posts !

  137. 137
    Jethro says:

    Shouldn’t that be ‘poll”, rather than ‘noll”?

  138. 138

    Oh dear oh dear oh dear. What is the world coming to? It seems like none of us ain’t not allowed to have a special relationship nowadays no more.
    Maybe it’s not such a bad thing, mind. My great grandchild Vegas-Madonna got pregnant again the other day for the fifth time and she said it was all to do with her special relationship

  139. 139
    sockpuppet #4 says:

    I am disagreeing with that point.

    And if all landlords in a particular area were able to increase their prices in unison, based on an external “excuse” (not really an excuse, a cost), they bloody well would.

    Its also hardly politically expedient or even politically possible to be asking to swap all the current taxes, to take a massive wedge out of landlord’s pockets. As if it can all come from them.

    Where’s all this odd rhetoric come from?

  140. 140
    No say says:

    What Wavie Davie knows about Islam could probably fit on the back of a postage stamp.

    Post-democracy means we must all idly stand by and watch our countries disappear in the interests of mercantile greed and political agendas subscribed to by very few outside of the elites themselves.

  141. 141
    Jethro says:

    …and, come to that, eleppou, rather than alopex (or are we talking about a particularly mangy fox?)?

  142. 142
    God help us says:

    Crossed wires – I guess we are on the same side. No need to get nasty. train your invective on our common enemy the murderous thugs….

  143. 143
    Jethro says:

    I like the idea of his being ‘exited’ – perhaps ‘Exit left, pursued by a Bear’…

  144. 144

    Never mind the slappers, here’s the Macc Lads.

  145. 145
    God help us says:

    Those who ‘wilfully misunderstand Islam’ end up living under its 7th century barbarity, Dave.
    Ask the Serbs who many in your cabinet, notably crap Maude, supported the illegal attack against.
    They know what happens when you let them in and let them breed and build Saudi funded mosques. You lose the historic heart of your country.
    When will Bradford/Leeds declare UDI and ‘we are the majority now’.
    Manchester, Biormingham, Leicester – no stopping them now thanks to bloody NATO.
    What you going to do Dave. Give it all to them? Hand it over. You will have to with half the Islamic population of Turkey pouring in as reinforcements.

  146. 146
    hello ducky says:

    Gay Paree?

  147. 147
    Can’t remember my moniker says:

    This one does not appear good. That is the big thing it does not know. To much into hip-hop!

  148. 148
    Peter Carter-Fuck says:

    The only problem with this country that I can see is the lack of 70 million Turks. Thank Allah that Dave al Tosser is on top of the problem.

  149. 149
    Paul Parton Apple are shit! says:

    Once upon a time half of traffic wardens were those who were failed out of the Met police for being too aggressive with the general public. That officer had two complaints for being over aggressive before the Tomlinson incident.

  150. 150
    Paul Parton Apple are really shit! says:

  151. 151
    Anonymous says:

    And lots & lots & lots & lots of bestest Hamas friends also.

  152. 152
    Poor Bill says:

    Poor William, has had to betray his country, regiment, school, ideals, family and people, just to keep his job.

    Eu coward ! A word I use here for the first time, for an ex-member of HM’s services.

    Remember the Latvians and other who betrayed their countries for favours.
    Only the British saved them.

    We’ll be waiting for Eu in the free world,when Eu run. Turn-coat.

    Who taught Eu Russian Liam ?

  153. 153
    Anonymous says:

    What I find curious is that the number of work shy in Merthyr increased just as the pits closed.

  154. 154

    Woops, is there any difference in any of our politicians?

  155. 155
    goto100 says:

    INTERNAL Revenue Service, Guido.

    Fox should simply point out that a blatant tax cheat called Timothy Geithner got off with no penalties, and is now Treasury Secretary, and the head of the IRS. “Fox” in charge of chicken coop etc. etc. But quite honestly, if the IRS push this, given Geithner’s exemption and apparent immunity, Fox should just tell them to fuck off until they prove themselves to be less criminal than the people they police. And not just Fox. The entire rest of the world.

  156. 156

    Writing on the 27th July, you say “…today he now learns that it is under investigation from the Inland Revenue Service”

    I would say that even the report that you mention from thirsdesctor.co.uk is dated 20th April.

    Who’s out of the loop? Did he really only just find that out on 27th July?

    Here’s a skit on their original site: http://www.brianmoylan.info/theatlanticbridge/ made about 18 month ago.


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