July 19th, 2010

Freedom is Too Messy

It seems that your freedom really does have a limit with this government. For all the talk, the majority have once again been silenced by the minority. Along with the “crowd-slicing” spending cuts consultancy project, the government web-watchers have shut down the debate on Your Freedom because of a few nutters. As Guido said the other day and will say again now – freedom is messy - It doesn’t matter so long as we find some diamonds in the mud.


115 Comments

  1. 1

    Let’s not forget that David Cameron has just deleted a petition on the Number 10 site regarding the Pope

    http://richarddawkins.net/articles/489963-the-missing-pope-petition

    • 8
      Spank Sinatra says:

      Maybe we should have a petition to re-instate the petition? Could be fun to see how they deal with that methinks……….

      • 23
        Disaffected says:

        BBC union threatens to strike- let us hope it is for good and we can get rid of the licence fee tax.

        • 63
          The TV Licence says:

          Agreed!

        • 73
          Anonymous says:

          Please. Please. Please.

          We can shut the beeb down and scrap the telly tax.

          Cameron has got the balls, hasn’t he ? Hasn’t he ? Wot wuz that … ?

          • Granny smith says:

            Any idea how many weather forecasters the BBC employ?

          • The TV Licence says:

            One for every day of the week?

          • Must get a pseudonym one day says:

            You have to understand that BBC weather-presenting is actually an NHS sponsored fertility unit – it must be – pretty much every female weather-totty seems to have a permanent bun in the oven, so the sheer volume of overlapping maternity leave means they need hundreds of the fecund beauties.

            Either that or they’re all humping Huw Edwards between forcasts…… banging like the proverbial sh*thouse door in a Force 10 Gale around Cromerty, Forth, Tyne, Dogger, Fisher, German Bight…….

          • Dennis says:

            The BBC do not employ any weather forecasters. The Met office employs them.

        • 86
          The Director of Politically Krect ‘n Convenient Troof at AlJaBeeba, the Brhoon Bullshit Corpse says:

          We patiently wait for Our Glorious Leader who is resting prior His Comeback!

          He will Return! He will Come Again to lead us!

          Meanwhile, darrrrrhhhhhlings – PLEASE – you don’t weaally want to go on strikey-wikey . . . do you?

          Us sooper people at the top of the shit heap have just awarded ourselves even more pay and perks for doing bugger-all of any use to the world.

          But you darrrrhhhlings, – you – do it for the love of it don’t you dears?

          Now Rejoice! – thanks to Camertwat, our cushy non-jobs and unjustified pensions are safe!

          Now darrrhhhlings, – get back to telling the Sheeple what to think and do.

          And don’t go on strikey-wikey, – there’s good lovey-doveys.

        • 89
          Ha ha ha ha says:

          Government gives money back to people.

      • 40
        Call Me Dave says:

        End Of Story!!

      • 67
        David Milibanana says:

        Citizens will have to adjust to the modernised reality that we can solve the problems of freedom by torturing those who discredit the EU and our future, vis a vis world economic prosperity, in it.

    • 11
      Mr Ned says:

      Jolly good. Although not a catholic myself, I am glad that the British Establishment are not caving in to a bunch of hypocritical, politically correct, intolerant fascists who are preaching religious intolerance and inciting religious hatred.

      Like or loath the Catholic faith, (personally I could not give a fuck about it either way) there are well over a billion Catholics on earth, and that represents one hell of a big market to advertise to.

      Our economy could do with a very big lift by being nice to the pope!

      • 18

        I notice that the petition was set up by Peter Tatchell and moans about child molesting within the Catholic church

        This is the same Peter Tatchell that wants to sleep with children

        http://www.petertatchell.net/age%20of%20consent/consent%20at%2014.htm

        • 31
          Head Lizard says:

          A publicity viper!

        • 36
          Lest we forget says:

          “Although it is both logical, and consistent with modern knowledge about child development, to suggest that the age of consent should be abolished, we fear that, given the present state of public attitudes on this topic, it will not be politically possible to abolish the age of consent”.

          NCCL 1976

        • 111
          Mr Ned says:

          Peter Tatchell is against the Catholics because they believe that sodomising children is wrong. (A few sick and depraved priests notwithstanding)

          I happen to agree with the Catholics that sodomising children is very wrong. It seems Peter Tatchell thinks that sodomising children is an acceptable and a liberal viewpoint.

          Well he is entitled to his opinion, but I hope that it remains the view of a tiny minority of sick perverts and is never legislated to become allowed.

          The pope has received a lot of criticism (rightly) for the child abuse scandals in the catholic church. He was in a position earlier to prevent abuse and punish wrongdoers.

          What is a great shame is now that he has taken the problem head on and implemented measures to root out the sick priests and clean up Catholicism, that the left are jumping all over him like he is some sort of rapist.

          Yet one of their own, a child raping celebrity by the name of Roman Polanski, is having the left’s luvvies defend his filthy depravity like his actions are normal or something.

          I think it is a sick irony that left wing celebrities are now treating the pope like a rapist and a rapist like the pope!

  2. 2
    die socialist weasels says:

    god help us if the pc brigade ever gets wind of this festering cesspit

  3. 3
    Mr Ned says:

    So it is not permanently silenced, it is just temporarily off-line to get hold of the details of a few nutters to prevent them from dicking about with an important resource and spoiling it for the majority?

    Sounds reasonable to me.

  4. 4
    New Labour Old Danger says:

    Meet the new boss, same as the old bosses.

    He really is the heir to Blair & Brown.

    • 69
      I Remember You Hoo says:

      Don’t be ridiculous, Bliar and Brown’s vision was one of thousands of Common Purpose types postioned as area Gauleiter’s with an army of informers on every corner, spying over neighbourhoods and even their own families. Dave’s Big Society thingie on the other hand wants, oh wait, err, um…
      Ok You are right.

  5. 5
    tory boys never grow up says:

    Guido

    What no mention of this story despite your previous eulogies to Irish economic policy!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-10681046

    • 9
      Turncoat says:

      Guido’s French now.Do keep up.

    • 58
      Normally I can't be arsed says:

      More debt, eh?

      Ireland is in the EURO and cannot devalue. Keynesianism cannot be exercised.

      The Ratings Agencies are WALL STREET. Wall Street makes money out of other folks difficulties.

      Seen what the Chinese Rating Agency has said about the dollar and American Keynesian Stimulus.?

      Keynes got us the Problem.

      Socialists love Keynes. Shows what fanatasists they are.

    • 71
      Sir William Waad says:

      Isn’t that the Halfpenny Bridge in Dublin? A halfpenny is about all they’ve got left since the EU subsidies ran out, the property bubble burst and Bono went off the save the Galaxy.

  6. 6
    Richard Baron says:

    It should not be too difficult to have a bit of software that would detect offensive words and refer the comments that contained them for moderation. In fact, MI5 must already have just such a bit of software to screen websites and e-mails for terrorism-related words.

    What I want to know is, what were the offensive comments? All leaks from the shocked staff at Number 10 are most welcome.

    • 14
      Mike Hunt says:

      tools like that are a blunt weapon and are easily subverted. The also filter out large towns in Lincolnshire famous for their steel. Let’s see if this site ‘hoons’ SHunthorpe.

      • 16
        Mike Hunt says:

        And it did!!!!

        • 34
          The TV Licence says:

          Its a good site really and you can say almost anything you want, which lets face it now’a'days is very rare to find.
          Yep, c u n t/cnut will always become hoon went typed correctly and posted, but that’s all I’ve found.

          I doff my hat to Guido in this regard!

    • 39
      Troopers says:

      swear like troopers

    • 92
      Computers R Us says:

      Powerful computer and tetra bytes of storage required

  7. 7
    NBeale says:

    Well they were slammed for getting bad ideas posted, but seems to me that a few bad ideas/comments don’t really matter. If there are 1% good ideas, 0.1% excellent ideas that would be great.

    But the malice and stupidity of the “no mandate” lefites knows very few bounds.

  8. 10
    The 100 says:

    See the new boss is like the old one,Come back Gordon.

    • 19
      The TV Licence says:

      Whooow, stead on old bean!

    • 25
      Gordon Brown says:

      I’m in Killcuddlies working on my book and visiting primary school.s

      • 38
        What is it with Labia? says:

        Did you ‘groom’ blinky? The 2 of you are always visiting schools. Troubled souls.

        • 80
          Edwin Bollocks says:

          We visit skools becos childrin is noice an they dont not nswr back lik wot gron updo an chldrn com n cudl u like wot evadne duz onlye chldrn dont not want wot she duz n gordn sez chldrn mak im feel warm in iz trowseez

  9. 12
    DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

    I notice that the suggestion to make it illegal to have sex with dead animals has been removed from the site (although you can still find it in Google’s cache). I wonder if that was the sort of thing they found too offensive?

    “Your freedom” — you are free to write what you like on the site unless Big Brother deems it inappropriate. Not a good start.

  10. 13
    The TV Licence says:

    Here we go again, more fcuking control freakary!

  11. 15

    Speaking of diamonds, tat’s blog been seen yet?

  12. 20
    bandersnatch says:

    Freedom is Messy… Slightly tangential… but Nick Cohen in the Observer: ‘Should Political Conversations Remain Private’… The New Review P4 gives you a fine and worthy puff, Guido.

    • 26
      Weed Merchant says:

      I like a puff.

      • 48
        Trying to go Straight says:

        I was introduced to the intriguing weed in 1977. I ran out a few months ago and can no longer purchase the stuff. As reality started to come into focus I realized that little has changed. Except the size of TVs.

        • 74
          Coughing and spluttering says:

          33 years worth,fucking hell how much did you buy 20 tons.?

        • 82
          TV addict says:

          Don’t know what you mean, – they’re all miniturised now. None are larger / bigger / greater / wider / taller / than 12″

          Honest guv.

          How’s therapy going?

  13. 21
    Amy Winehouse says:

    Mmmmmm, LIQUID COCAINE!

  14. 22
    It doesn't add up... says:

    Ed Balls says it’s only a little thing (probably talking about his brain):

    Ed Balls has just said that Sarah Teather will never be thought of as a “giant of the Liberal Party”.

    Another tall story?

  15. 24
    Nurse says:

    Gordon, I told you not to mess about on the computer! You’re only allowed Pac Man and that’s it! Go sit on the naughty step!

  16. 27
    Taxfodder says:

    Highly amusing, the clunking hand of the un-elected oompa loompa coalition short on action yet high on taxpayer susidised booze, wobbles on looking for yet another hole to tumble into.

  17. 27
    I'll be one of the first to be jailed says:

    I’m just waiting for the first concentration camp for online trolls to be set up.

  18. 29
    Dave is turning out to be a right twat says:

    Gordon was mental, what’s Camerons excuse?

  19. 33

    [...] Freedom is Too Messy – Guy Fawkes' blog [...]

  20. 35
    David Cameron PM (currently stretching his arse to take Obama in) says:

    OHHHHHH I LOVE YOU PRESIDENT OBUMMER

    I EVEN LEFT MY FAT WIFE BEHIND SO YOU COULD DO ME UP THE BUM ALL DAY LONG.

    OOOOOOOHHH TAKE ME HARDER PRESIDENT OBUMMMERRR OOOO I’LL GIVE YOU ANYTHING YOU WANT.

    • 45
      Shrink says:

      I think you need to go to your local gay bar and pick up a black guy, seems to me there’s a lot of frustration and tension in your posts.
      This is not the best place to excesses them really.

  21. 37
    David Cameron PM (currently stretching his arse to take Obama in) says:

    I LOVE BIG BLACK DICK AND SO DO THE BOYS AT ETON.

    DIVERSITY AND THE RIGHT TO TAKE A BIG DICK UP THE ARSE FOR ALL.

    • 55
      Where's Gordie Brown today? says:

      Mr Bradshaw, don’t you have constituency work you should be attending to?

    • 72
      TOO FAR says:

      FFS where do these ret@rds come from? Iv’e just logged on and this shit appears AAAh they are Labour supporters… No even they have a link… missing maybe but they are out there.
      Who are they? pond slime??
      Sorry pond slime.
      maybe just maybe our ex leader has access to the INTERNET
      NO it’s TAT!!!

  22. 44
    Big Society says:

    Where do I sign up to wipe an old mans arse for nothing?

    • 46
      M.Oaten says:

      Back of the queue bud.

    • 50
      Shrink says:

      You should do it for the love of it, he dragged you up, bought you your first car and fcuked your mother. The lease you can do is wipe his arse in his old age.

    • 109
      Must get a pseudonym one day says:

      The Job Centre in Kircaldy has a vacancy for such a post, looking after a gentleman who is the UK’s entry in this year’s Eurovision Hide & Seek Contest.

  23. 47
    Grow up says:

    and learn to be offensive the rest of us have

  24. 51
    Moley says:

    Debate can be stifled by saboteurs posting deliberately offensive comments as we all know.

    One or two people unaided shuttting down a national debate?

    Is our Government that weak and useless?

    (That was a rhetorical question.)

  25. 60
    Listen up, people who post lame videos here! says:

    Fuck off!

  26. 62
    Sir William Waad says:

    Nobody believes in complete freedom of speech. You, dere reader, do not believe that I should be allowed to fake a video of you doing something unpseakable with a little child and publish it on YouTube as being true, and you are right. The principle is well understood – everything should be allowed unless it does actual, substantial harm to another person.

  27. 70
    Peasant says:

    Oh you deluded hoons. David Cameron does not give a flying fuck for our freedoms, he just wants the power.

    Ferfucksake if you wanted libertarian freedoms then why didn’t you vote for someone who would really give you them, like Old Holborn. The Tories (and worse, the Lib Dems) are just as much control freaks as Labour. The difference is that unlike Bliar who did not know what to do when he got in control, Cameron does and is fucking up our country fast. (The Markit/ CIPS UK (PMI) survey of business say that business confidence after Osborne’s budget has dropped by the most it has ever dropped in its 14 year history, more than after 9/11 or the Lehman collapse).

  28. 77
    Where's Gordie Brown today? says:

    Troughing politicians are all bad people!

  29. 85
    Spark looking for tinder says:

    Maybe that’s why the government stopped trial by jury, can’t be letting the public set the innocent free.

  30. 87
    Engineer says:

    In any group of people, society, political party or organisation, there will always be some idiots. They may be cynical, malevolent, misguided or just plain thick, but they cause irritation and bother beyond all reason for the majority. It’s a fact of the human condition, and it has to be accepted (albeit with gritted teeth).

    If their aims are malevolent, they will ultimately fail provided decent people stick to their beliefs and morals. They can only succeed if decent people let them. So don’t let them.

    Carry on with the “Your Freedom” website please, Government, ‘cos it’s OUR freedom, and we’re not giving it up to nutters.

    Messy? Well, life is.

    • 91
      Will take your advice thanks says:

      True i have too much of a short attention span to achieve my true potential

    • 99
      Broon's victims 'R' us says:

      I’m guessing that the people reading the messages have gone from uni to the pc world of public service without getting the ‘blooding’ or battle-hardening that most people get. In engineering you soon develop a thick
      skin as I found that everyone from the CEO downwards used to turn the
      air blue, anyone upset by it didn’t belong there.

      • 102
        Not the cabin boy says:

        true.at 18 I could understand the language of the German second engineer down below,,and that’s ship talk for the engine room before any of you start making smart arse comments

        • 104
          A Cabin Boy called Prezza says:

          I can tell wot people mean by their looks in any langwidge

          • Must get a pseudonym one day says:

            “G&T, Boy” is pretty standard in any language, which is about all of any language (including English) that Baron Prescott of Kingston-upon-Hull understands.

  31. 103
    Ok you sad bunch of nonces says:

    99.99 % of the so called offensive stuff on here is just banter,cruel sometimes but banter all the same.The trick is to give as mush as you get.

  32. 105

    BLIMP!

    (Comment 101)

  33. 115

    Freedom is also costly!!!



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