Freedom is Messy, Get Over It
Some time back David Miliband did a public consultation wiki and it was over-run by the, errm, public. The public who over-whelmingly mocked him and wrecked the consultation process. It was a bit of fun.
Surprise, surprise this government is trying the same thing and it is getting suggestions that don’t go well down with Guardian readers. Like cutting off one finger per pickpocketing offence – which will clearly have a deterrent effect.
Some suggestions are just fun: Repeal the law of universal gravitation.
One suggestion Guido would really like to see happen : Decriminalise Cannabis. The laws on cannabis in this country are ridiculous, the Prime Minister was a dope-smoker in his Eton days, he knows that the scaremongering about it is ridiculous. Possession and growing for personal use, at the very least, should be decriminalised, as should medical use.
The fact that the public’s suggestions are often illiterate and ill-thought out ideas doesn’t mean that in among the jokes and madness there won’t be some good ideas. It will be messy, it will be a bit chaotic, so what? It doesn’t matter so long as we find some diamonds in the mud.
It is the same with comments on this blog. Temperamentally Guido would prefer it to be totally free without any limits. In practice the place would be over-run by 9-11 troofers, Jew-haters, Jihadis, muslim-haters, old fashioned racists and loonie lefties, who unable to get an audience of their own, try to parasite off Guido’s readership.
The limited software moderation we have was introduced to stop them and to prevent the likes of Derek Draper accusing Guido of deliberately promoting whatever was written in the comments.
In truth Guido is sceptical that it really matters what some window-licker writes in the blog’s comments and the majority of the blog’s readers don’t read the comments. People who complain to Guido that they are offended really have (a) no right to not be offended (b) no obligation to read the blog. Some of the comments can be tear-jerkingly funny – one BBC staffer confided that reading the comments here was “bad for her soul”. Does it really matter that much?
See also Get Your Own Blogs, The Economics of Blog Comments.
Bring. It. On.
I like a man with guts
Yer still a fascist though
drink
It is period of political boredom, Blair clones leading the 3 parties, partisan on message drones and tedium across the political spectrum.
So let the attempt to stir things up to bumb up readership, webhits and interest….
BEGIN!!!!
Sun/YouGov poll tonight: Tories up to 43% (highest all year), Lab 34%, LDs 15%. What chance a snap election now to dump the Libs?
http://twitter.com/Sun_Politics
The above Tweet from the Sun certainly seemed to have got people going overnight overnight but how feasible is the idea of the blues going it alone?
You get the distinct impression that Dave is happier with the coalition than if the blues had got an overall majority. M.Smithson
..and a chicken-lover
let
chicken = ‘Lord Mandy’
Yep…. Methinks that Mr Mandelbat used to be too close to McRuin’s guts…..
I want to propose a new class of haters. Reasonable people who hate people who hate. I think we can drum up plenty of support here, even across the political divide. The hater-haters will harass all these loathsome, mostly coprophagiac, indeterminately sexed, ladies peethings and throw every possible sort of invective at them to destroy their febrile, compulsive obsessive, Hindenburg-sized egos and provide devastating and final solutions and responses to their furious and unfounded assertions and allegations.
What shall we call it? I know: “order-order”. It’s a blinder innit?
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!! completely oblivious isn’t he? wot a tard!
Some mention t urds?
Buy my book . . . . go on . . . willya? Got a well
emmolummmated. . paid piffling job I can do . . ?QED
I want to propose.. Hindenburg-sized egos… What shall we call it?
I think the word you are looking for is phobophobia, Then again, miserable, interfering, socialist pecksniffs has worked well enough or me so far.
Antiantipathism.
Yes, nicely regressive! How many more times may we precede with ‘anti’?
Death to Fanatics! Praise “Bob”!
Thank you for that RM. It depends on how you relate fear to hatred. I do not fear any of these mugwumps (in the true sense that they post on a Libertarian blog whilst themselves being commies*). I certainly hate them as their gross contribution is zero, at best.
I enjoy the similarity to Russell’s paradox, in as much as one rails against the use of hatred, using hatred itself.
* good enough offensive description for this argument.
THEN STOP WHINING ABOUT IT YOU PISSY LITTLE TWAT.
People who complain to Guido that they are offended really have (a) no right to not be offended (b) no obligation to read the blog.
Good God man! You mean people at the Beeb have souls?
If you don’t like what the conspirators write, then don’t read it.
A BBC staffer witha sense of humour? We can’t have that! SACK HER! SACK HER!!
Presumably she doesn’t work in ‘light entertainment’
Have to say I feel really pleased to know that the Guardian readers employed by the BBC read this site and find it bad for their souls. I.e. they find normal people who dislike being controlled by the state bad for their souls.
BBC employees/wealthy Guardian readers if you’re reading – I want to see your organization destroyed, every diversity coordinator sacked, dole money slashed to the absolute minimum (want a better standard of living? get a job), England withdraw from the EU to become a self-governing democracy again, ALL immigration stopped immediately and all illegals sent straight home
And there isn’t a damn thing you can do to change my mind.
Bad for her soul = good for the rest of us.
Repeal the law of moderation!
Let slip the windowlickers of commentary! Let us take pitchforks and blunt spoons to the withering intellect of Dolly!
Back in the olden days I used to post ascii porn to Prestel. Yeah baby.
Leagalise the herb
How many women does it take to change a light bulb? Two: One to change the light bulb and one to suck my cock.
Well said
Its all an act don’t believe him
sounds a bit like a riposte to those who somehow think they can tell Mr F who to ban on the site and that only they have a god given right to troll because they think this is Conservativehome where only lavish praise of Dave will be tolerated
I also note that a new species of window licker has emerged – the Raoul Moat fan club and apologists.
Dave hath decreed that Murdoch is right and the minions, arselickers and apologists must sound outraged at Moat. Even though he’s dead as a doornail so is hardly much of a fucking threat is he ?
Plod though, is a saintly figure who didn’t waste 3-4 Million on a keystone cop bungling manhunt then fucked it up at the end with not one but two taserings.
YOU WILL PRAISE THE POLICE AT ALL TIMES!
YOU WILL PRAISE DAVE’S AFGHAN WAR AT ALL TIMES!
YOU WILL PRAISE DAVE AT ALL TIMES!
or Dave will get upset and so will Nick who will set the fearsome Liberals on you
The objection is the lionization of Moat, a crude thug who shot 3 people because, well…… you tell me.
Whether the police are any good or not is a different matter.
Not a difficult concept, is it?
neither is the fact that the ludicrous over the top hunt for him, the predictable tabloid hysteria for the fuckwits to suck up, and the manner of his death are all inextricably linked to his current status
It’s not because people love Moaty, more that they hate the Police.
Oh look, there’s one!
Oh look, there’s an on message arselicker censorship apologist without a mind of his own!
But Dave is upset. Why else would he pick a quarrel with Facebook? It’s not one he is likely to win, and he would be on the road – well-trodden by the idiot just departed No 10 – of looking the silly politician.
Going forward, Dave needs to recognize that Moat, in being laid to rest, has in his turn finally laid to rest the validity and viability of the appellation ‘Plod’ for our police farce. The police ‘plod’ no more, and even when they do we are to understand they are not actually plodding. Years of public demand to get ‘the bobby back on the beat’ (a formula still being rehearsed by my local tories – bless their flat little heads) have resulted only in gesture responses – a token restoration of an occasional simulacrum of policing here and there. The police farce and its leadership clique, the ACPO gang, are not interested. They have demonstrated it by filling our neighbourhoods and cities with simulations of policemen (the ‘plastic Plod’) to do the plodding for them. But there’s more: lo! believing the public has bought this sham, we’ve even seen the start of simulations of the simulations of policemen: cardboard cut-out ‘Plods’ in supermarket entrances. (They don’t ‘plod’ either). Truly our police farce has joined in whole-heartedly in our world where, to use a memorable phrase, “evidence based policy-making has been replaced by policy-based evidence-making” – a world in which politics is the simulation of politics based on scientific research which is itself the simulation of the process of science, and which in turn involves controlling the meaning of ‘a fact’ (theory of truth).
The new appellation for Plod, not yet known by everyone but pretty-much on the point of being realized by everyone, is implied in that photograph of Moat’s final moments. That picture will outlive both Moat, the IPCC enquiry, the political grandstanding and the media hullabaloo precisely because it is wordless, and so cannot be contradicted, denied, negated, argued with, etc. It cannot be ‘spun’ against successfully – there is no linguistic formula which can be insinuated, explicitly or subliminally, into peoples’ heads to countermand it or invalidate it. All the more so because that picture is worth not a thousand words, but just one word: the word for the new personification of our police farce.
Snarler.
But Dave is upset. Why else would he pick a quarrel with Facebook?
Because he needs to keep Murdoch on his side, who coincidently owns on of Facebook’s main rivals?
Only a socialist could think in terms of some means, however stupid, to justify an end. If Dave wants Murdoch’s favour, we will see it rather in inaction over the Bleating Bumming Coke-users racket: Murdoch’s positive spin traded against the BBC’s negative one. What a nice dilemma for Coulson and the boys.
MySpace – which is owned by Murdoch – has been in a terminal nosedive for sme time now. It’s hardly a competitor to the Wisbech Methodists Domino League forums, let alone Facebook. So the idea of your convenient little conspiracy theory is in reality utter twaddle, particularly when you also realise that the Government has been talking to Mark Zuckerberg about how the two can work together.
As for the comments on moderating the comments section, well, if you don’t like it then tough luck. The freedom of speech spleen venters are the first to whinge about anything, especially when they hide behind their scummy unwashed digital net curtains of anonymity, and ironically are the first to scream when they get criticised back.
If you don’t want to be moderated, try putting your point across in a well-considered and literate manner. Or get yer own blog – and see how long you refrain from moderating comments yourself. If you get any of course.
The problem with your – largely – unmoderated comments is that it’s chaotic and borderline unreadable. Now, that’s fine if that’s what you want. I’m happy to have you in my blog reader, read the occasional post, and never read the comments.
But some blogs have interesting comments that add to the site. They can be as interesting as the blog posts themselves. It’s something completely lacking from your site.
But hey, there’s room enough in the world for different approaches.
“read the occasional post, and never read the comments.”
Yeah, right. Totally get where you’re coming from, man.
Somewhere in the vicinity of the planet Bollocks.
“the majority of the blog’s readers don’t read the comments.”
You mean that some blogs are so fucking boring that the only thing of interest is the piss taking comments.
…says the sweatie sock with typical erudition.
Nothings happening chump.
If it upsets whiny little twats like you then it can only be a good thing.
Classic tat prattle.
Once upon a time there was a gobshite called Emergency Retard.
And then he died.
The end.
Nothing is perfect, and the (almost) anything goes approach is the one that we’re trying here.
Dont be too hard on yourself, guido. The comments are the best bits
Well it takes one to know one doesn’t it? By definition a pompous self regarding little prat like you is “borderline unreadable” – lets call that dick head territory – now why don’t you fuck off back there and leave us grown ups alone.
Why is the photo for this blog post of Iain Dale?
Be fair, Guido does have the courtesy to point that out every time he mentions Madame Dale.
Agree with Ben, I stop reading comments on any of your posts when the number gets bigger than 50. As soon as it does it just ends up being the same “Labours awesome, no its not its Liabours evil” crap.
The yourfreedom site is in my opinion an excellent idea and if they actualy do something because of it democracy is better for it. If they just ignore it then it will be no different to the No.10 petitions which frankly are pointless.
Thanks i’ll troll that site as well now to piss people like you off from reading it.
Great idea.
Don’t let the door hit your dirty ped0 arse on the way out.
It’s all smoke and mirrors, but you think it’s magic, the “your freedom site” is an illusion, and you’ve fallen for it.
The window lickers are the ones that raise the stat count and the ad revenues.
God, and Mammon, work in much the same way.
I bet most of the people who criticise window lickers have never actually licked a window. It’s a very shallow and short-sighted prejudice.
I’m just guessing, but they taste of Windolene, no?
Different windows taste differently. I have done extensive research into this. I was going to apply for a research grant but i’m not an idle, bedwetting, boxticking, lefty, unemployable-in-the-private-sector, academician.
Domestic Double Glazing: Depends on the time of year. During winter its mostly dust brought down by rain. In the summer, there is a hint of pollen and honey.
Office Exterior Glazing: A weak solution of Urea. Brought about by commercial window cleaners.
Interior Office Windows: Used to be nicotine and jam. Now more likely to be the heady scent of whatever Blondie scored off Phil’s Phake Perfumes from the market.
Public Transport Vehicles. On the inside they always taste of stale sweat and burgers. Diesel and roadgrime on the outside.
Great Glass Elevators: Chocolate and OOmpah-Lumpah Juice.
Steve Jobs licks OS X
Yes, I noticed that daft feminist woman with the ridiculous uni-scarf bleating in the Retardian earlier. What’s wrong with having crocodiles in Job Centres anyway? Compared to rainbow alliance of pikeys, moaties and globe trotters who frequent my local Dole Hole they’d be positively unexotic and far less likely to bite off a limb. And the comments on here are ace, great, fab, brill (as they used to say on ‘Points of View’). Long may they prosper.
are you a poof?
I can be whatever you want me to be Ruppie old thing. Now get those crusty Y-fronts down and I’ll put those haemorrhoids back in with my ‘finger’.
Don’t push yourself to extremes on my account. i was only asking you to confirm the obvious. Well, ARE YOU?
What are your thighs like Rupie? Describe them to me. Are they hairy and strong?
I love this blog. It’s the only thing they allow me to read in here.
We love this blog. It’s the only place we can express our resentment at politicians in the most foulest, venomous, acerbic, abusive, pox on all their second houses terms, we can spit out between vomiting over the Daily Politics show and Question Time, and hope that at least one of the mealy mouthed, robbing bastards might be reading.
Greetings!
Don’t forget the propensity of a number of msm hacks, to come out with articles expressing sentiments remarkably similar to those expressed first on this board by A N Drone and fellow window lickers.
Sadly tat and tat-alikes aren’t “tuned” to 233Hz, so they can’t be notch filtered…
We need another bogeyman to provide direction for the abuse. Ed Balls for Labour Leader!
Whilst there are some blogs on here that outrage even our very wide ranging contributor base the reality of censoring some things is evidently necessary.
As someone with endless tags who is guilty many times of saying things, hopefully with humour as a foundation but nevertheless very critical indeed I commend this site for what must be seen as a light hand in censoring contributions.
The day free comment is limited by dogma or doctrine this order-order will lose it’s deserved place as a key opinion taker and it’s legend as the blog to follow in political circles.
The official death knell of Order-Order.com for the more sensitive souls commenting.
woof woof
Tag as ‘time waster’.
durrrrrr?????
As prime minister, I will shut this site down and bring in a National Internet Security law, which will ban any websites that my government believes pose a threat to our national security.
If you do that i’ll shoot you in the head Eddie boy and go down as one of the greatest internet heroes of all time.
can u make me a blog like yours wkd cool yeah? tht’d be super help lol.
If Balls becomes PM, we’re all for the Gulag.
good thing there’s not a snowball’s chance in hell of that happening then
Please will you all leave my husband, my hero alone on this blog. These Where’s Gordon reports are very hurtful. Gordon is doing very important work and can’t be in parliament every day. He was just on the phone to me from Fife telling me about all the schools he’s been visiting in his fight for a fairer Britain. I myself am down in Canterbury working on my memoirs.
Please, leave him alone.
Is your hubby the bloke who spilt jizzum all over Tobermory round about the time Michael Foot was getting fucked?
Sarah Beard, How is Lord Paul?
Ye ask war’ ah aim Jummy?
Wa! – ah’m still here a’doin ma jobbys ‘n smearin ma shit on tha’ walls!
An’ only this last weekend ar ha’
RAISED 67,000 million bairns frae abject povitae
ADDED another £67,000 billion tae tha’ debt
BUILT 67,000 million tractors complete wi’ ploughs – an’ ivryone wi’ 67 complamuntury haggissss
LET IN 67,000 million bhendas n’ illegals an’ relatives an’ hangers-on ‘n stocked up wi’ 67,000 million fresh wee bomber boys.
FREAKILY CONTROLLED 67,000 million public sector jobsworths, including them in here that think they control ma’.
Ah’m sane! Ah’m sane as tha’ next
man. . purson!Sorry Sarah Beard but you need to face some difficult facts – crazed or not (Moat without the good looks, personality & intelligence) your ‘hero’ is a treasonous, incompetent delusional fool who should be facing criminal charges for what he did/didn’t do to this country & for his complicity in the war crimes of Tony Blair. Hopefully, at some time, justice will be done & will be seen to be done.
“Hopefully, at some time, justice will be done & will be seen to be done.”
On the end of rope I hope.
We the bum bandit coporation are postively coining it!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1294782/BBC-spent-LESS-new-TV-shows-despite-licence-fee-hike.html
What’s wrong with hating izlam? Religions are man-made, not deserving of respect any more than other inventions. It happens to be the worst of the bunch, a religion that was invented by a man who married a 6 year old and beheaded anyone who refused to convert. Fuck ‘em. And before any PC apologists start screaming, fuck the other religions too. The only difference being that it’s not followers of other religions constantly threatening and planning to destroy us.
Well said sir. I recently heard some Beeb reporter opine that the growing world population was ‘a sensitive issue’. Presumably, translated from PC babble into English, this means that it’s preferable to continue fucking up our planet than to ‘offend’ people who believe in three-in-one imaginary omnipotent beings.
It’s a ‘sensitive’ issue because those responsible for over population are non-white.
You can bet if over population was down to white populations growing, the BBC would be screaming from the rooftops about it.
*IKEA is now the biggest religion in Britain. There are more people going for their 2 quid fried breakfasts every morning than there are attending churches anywhere in the land.
Look up the “numinous”.
“The fact that the public’s suggestions are often illiterate and ill-thought out ideas doesn’t mean that in among the jokes and madness there won’t be some good ideas.”
Doesn’t mean there will either, as this site has shown. Personally I can’t help thinking that any substance which creates in the mind of the user the impression that “Ed Balls Campaign Diary” is funny must be doing some real damage.
Doesn’t mean there will either, as this site has shown.
But all that changed since you became a regular.
what an idiot!!!
“the impression that “Ed Balls Campaign Diary” is funny”
that would be like creating the impression that Bankers are nice generous giving people who did nothing to fuck the economy
nobody believes that shite
Jimmy -
[good ideas] – “Doesn’t mean there will either, as this site has shown.”
As this site has shown?
Clearly, as a liebore luvvy, if the ideas don’t revolve around pissing away other peoples money, extending censorship or enforcing oppression, you and yours aren’t interested.
You’re a first class fucktard
Thanks for that incisive quick witted riposte TAT, where would this site be without you?
Where’s your long awaited blog?
Having trouble getting it ok’d by the censorship entrenchment office of Zanu?
Course you are, if you’re not a deseased afghan limb challenged lesbian fighting for the missapropriation of all things ‘non job’, they’ll never give you the go ahead.
As soon as your commie cousins get another whiff of power, you do know you’ll be first on the double taser list, right?
does this mean that I have to take full responsibility for whatever I write?
deary me, I am a silly billy
but I like you
Damn rite. What is the bloody point of this? Amsterdam got it right, I love the coffeeshops, and I haven’t fallen into a canal yet. And what happens there? NOTHING but a saving of police time. I could argue at length but I won’t as u know it all already.
I had one of the sponge cakes and I went off into orbit like a Titan rocket. Quality gear it was.
Even the cheese is psychoactive over there! Strangest damn Dairylea I ever tasted.
This post is the best reason for your blog existing that I’ve seen in a long time. I’m stoned as I write this but never lose control of my faculties… freedom IS messy and I bloody like that it is.
ED BALLS FOR LEADER!
Great idea
“In truth Guido is sceptical that … the majority of the blog’s readers don’t read the comments.”
In vino veritas?
Don’t let the door hit your dirty arse on the way out.
I thought cannabis was decriminalised decades ago. I used to grow the stuff in my back garden when I lived in St Albans in the 1980s. Nice sturdy red stems too! Probably some still there, if you go and look. Don’t tell me that I was breaking the law?
The majority don’t read the posts, they just read the comments
“The majority doesn’t read the posts, it just reads the comments”.
Pedantic indeed!
Guido, what the fuck are you smoking?
Today, it doesn’t matter what Guido smokes.
Because it’s overshadowed by the news that Britland is THE BEST PLACE TO DIE!
UK can’t do much else nowadays, thanks to years of Twats-in-power, but it can bump you off OK . . MRSA . . . BSE . . . pigs flues . . . birds flew . . an that weird disease you get off lavvy seats.
You forgot non-licensed experimental double tasering. Liebore have a lot to answer for.
Your Freedom? Overall I’d rather have it than not but it’s embarrassingly bad at the moment.
http://peterreynolds.wordpress.com/2010/07/14/massive-outcry-for-legal-cannabis-on-your-freedom-website/
According to Mandy, the Bliar thought Iraq was linked to 9/11!
“”For God’s sake, have you been spending all your time with George Galloway?” Blair snapped in the late summer of 2002 after Mandelson said many Muslims could not see the link between 9/11 and the proposed invasion of Iraq.” Guardian
I always knew the Bliar was evil. I didn’t know he was stupid too.
he loved Dubya
exactly how big a clue did you need?
This depends on what you mean by ‘stupid’. Bliar is a man capable of persuading himself of the truth of anything that happens to be convenient for him to believe. How else could he convert to catholicism as soon as he stepped down as PM?
Q) What’s the difference between Catholicism & the Church of England?
A) Catholics get to confess and be absolved of all their sins.
Ideal for the ‘straight kind of guy’
“..many Muslims could not see the link between 9/11 and the proposed invasion of Iraq.” Guardian
Many muslims can’t see a link between 9/11 and muslims.
Legalise drugs! There’s more chance we’ll join the Euro!
I’m beginning to miss the days when our decline was being managed in a disorderly fashion. All this fiscal discipline is sooo boring.
Vote Moat!
It all seemed a good idea but who is going to wade through the mud to find the diamonds!! Maybe what they should do is publish a book of all the ideas it would be a funny best seller and get some income generated!!
Seen on the back of a Köln bog door:
Legal?
Illegal?
Scheiß egal!
Appropriate I feel. I shall carry on regardless.
But I am allowed to say I HATE & DETEST NOO_LIE_BORE AND ALL ITS WORKS! (inc. AlJaBeeba)
So that’s OK.
PS – and the AlJaBeeba gel should stick with Grauniad trash.
That “Your freedom” site is bollocks from the get go, however. Any site that claims to welcome ideas on increasing liberty, yet includes a link under every post asking “Is this idea inappropriate? Please login to report this idea…” is a sack of spunking shite.
I fucking hate this now *routine* idea that each and every bloody avenue of expressing opinion has to be MODERATED, ie censored, to avoid offending some fucktard oppresive bastard whose uses his weedling whining sensibilities or poxy minority status to limit my freedom, and this, we are told, aims to simply make us polite, equal, diverse… Well if the bastards want diversity, why can’t we have diversity of opinion? What the FUCK does it have to do with David Cameron how people feel about Raul Moat? How dare he try to tell people what to think – just as bad as those other statist bastards in labour. I think Umberto Eco said that fascism is about the State setting up shop in the human heart – well *anti-fascism* then, proper anti-fascism, not that swp yoof screeching authoritarianism thing, is about THINKING FOR YOURSELF. That is it. That is all it is.
Cünts.
Dave’s just doing what Rupert’s titrags and shitepapers tell him.
As usual.
On a similar theme…
I’ve often wondered why people who are supposidly so keen on ‘diversity’ don’t seem to like the idea of diversity of income.
It’s unethnical
Superb rant Frank.
One root of the increasingly nasty dystopia is exactly that: the use of force (whining about religion, ethnicity, gender, the whole ID politics armoury) to shut normal people up. We need to roll this back so the Gramscian-Fabians (while aware of what they are or not) — yes, you BBC staff traitors, public sector jobsworth-blockleiters, guardian 100K per annum ‘journalists’ whining about ‘deprivation’ (by whom? eh? eh?) and CIF communists (the number of usernames with ‘red’ in them is hilarious) and all the other social parasites need to hear some contrary views. The Guardian is just about the worst example for hypocrisy re comment ‘moderation’. Hasn’t Dave pulled the plug on their advertising stream yet? C’mon Dave you know it makes sense. Btw that little religious supremacist c’unt Medhi Hassan was whining about bigotry on CIF yesterday — wonderfully, a number of posters put up his lovely comments likening those not of his religion (the RoP) to ‘cattle’ and ‘animals’. Utterly amazing that someone with these views has a very well paid job in a ‘liberal’ national newspaper. Liberal my arse, utterly lost its way.
Anyway, having said all that, most people I know would crap themselves if they had to think — psychic shock like that geezer in The Truman show.
Us West Indian mums will go the wall for our freedoms. I’ve got nothing more to say. Except…
…riiiice and peeeeeea. Here’s a taxi receipt for £635,257.21.
It’s quite clear that “9/11″, if it happened at all, was a conspiracy between Mossad, the Kafrs, al-Qaeda, the blacks and the capitalists.
We hate free speechings! Free speechings is evil and western! Death to freedoms! We put fatwa on freedoms!
Please can I backdate my benefittings to 1984 please? Thank you please.
The man in the tin-foil hat is Guido and I claim my partially cooked *Waitrose chicken!
Don’t forget the Bilderberg group, NWO, CFR, international bankers and so forth!
This woman perfectly exemplifies how freedom is messy.
do you wank off to this spastic every day ?
Guido: Freedom is Messy, Get Over It
While I agree it is worth wading through tons of shit to find diamonds in the Your Freedom site – and it’s probably quite cathartic for the public to have this outlet for their loonier predilections – I wish you could find another title to your blog entry. “Freedom is messy” was the breezy, callous response of thousands of extremely right-wing Americans commenting on Iraqi blogs when the insurgency got going and Baghdad was experiencing the equivalent of London’s 7/7 every bloody day.
Guido: Decriminalise Cannabis [et seq]
Please not. Cannabis use can be the trigger for psychotic disorders and has long been the “gateway” to even more damaging drug abuse.
unlike drink which is perfectly safe and never causes crime
I knew someone would bring up that stock answer. You are not wrong but you are not wholly correct, either, are you? Red wine consumed in moderation has health benefits, and I take advantage of those fully. Cannabis has no health benefits, as far as I am aware – to the contrary.
It takes a lot of alcohol to rot the brain. By comparison, quite a short use of cannabis can cause long-term and irreversible changes in the brain.
you’ve seriously never heard of medicinal marijuana ?
you’re even dumber than you sound
Indigo: Piss off you pathetic wannabe tyrant — what I put into my body is NONE of your concern.
You have not the fist clue about ‘freedom’, have you?
Old MacDonanld had tourettes……
E I E I CUN*T….
The advantage in not publishing the crude offensive stuff is that some of us might read much more of the interesting stuff
Good idea but who is going to paw through the mud to find the diamonds.
More importantly how much, of our taxpayers money, are they going to be paid to do it?
Today I will be working on chapter 36 of my memoirs: “Towards a more prudent economy: Establishing the framework for Labour’s narrative 1996-2001″.
Yvette caught me in bed with one of the neighbours last night…
She reacted really badly – probably because we live next to a cemetery.
This is exactly the sort of comment that leads to lowering standards on this blog.
I’m off to look up some girlies skirts whilst exercising my right hand.
If you were Jeremy Beadle it would make your cock appear bigger.
Cameron’s attack on Facebook was part of his nudge strategy
Chris Heaton-Harris, the new MP for Daventry, suggested at yesterday’s Prime Minister’s Questions that Facebook should take down a horrible page extolling the murderer Raoul Moat. David Cameron agreed, saying that his colleague had made a “very good point”. This morning, a great deal’s being written about issues arising from the exchange, but not much about how it came to happen.
I expect that the question didn’t catch the Prime Minister off his guard. In Opposition, “the usual channels” would have questions to suggest, each week, to those who had a question down on the order paper for PMQs, but hadn’t decided what to ask. Needless to say, they also took an interest in questions that MPs had decided to ask: Whips like to be well-informed. It would be surprising if Government has changed their habits.
Heaton-Harris, a football-playing Euro-sceptic, knows own mind, and wouldn’t put a view he didn’t believe, but the question clearly gave Cameron a chance to do something he’s done before – namely, to nudge. He was nudging when he attacked British Home Stores for allowing the sale of padded bras for children. He was nudging again when he assailed W.H.Smith for giving away chocolate oranges rather than real ones.
And he was nudging yet again when he said that he’d barred his young daughter, Nancy, from listening to Lily Allen, because some of her lyrics are “unsuitable” for six year olds. The Prime Minister’s prepared to legislate when he considers it appropriate (he said in Opposition, for example, that he’d blacklist firms if necessary from Government contracts, although I can’t find the proposal, and others he floated, in the Coalition Agreement.)
http://conservativehome.blogs.com/thetorydiary/2010/07/camerons-attack-on-facebook-was-part-of-a-planned-strategy.html
Correcting Guido’s spelling or grammar usually results in instant moderation!
Only after it has been corrected.
Correcting Guido’s s-p-e-l-l-i-n-g or g-r-a-m-m-a-r usually results in instant moderation!
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Tony was telling me about slotgobs chinrest warts when Prescot wandered in and started searching the bins for food.
The BBC staffer who thinks that the comments are bad for the soul, must realise that there are people out there who don’t like being force fed views from t’Guardian leader pages, on Europe, Politics, Society, Business and The Economy.
There is no need for a publically funded, state run news service, the world has moved on.
She may also have picked up points that Socialism and ZaNuLabour are not universally praised to the rafters, and that Brown is not the saviour of the known world. Perhaps the truth hurts that Thatcher, Reagan, Friedman, Hayek, and others on the Right have done more for mankind than hand wringing lefties who saliavate at the mere mention of Castro, Mao, Che, Marx, Satre, Michael Foot and Stalin.
The silly bitch should ask why Leftist murderering scum like Mao, Stalin, and Kim Jong Il, Castro are some how fashionable, misunderstood when their victims number millions. The myopia of the Left in Britain is not a joy to behold. So darling, read Koba the Dread and wonder why The Left are full of disgusting apologists.
We’ve got Councillor Terry to keep us right in Glasgow. Champion of Castro et al…
http://councillorterrykelly.blogspot.com/
Oh and his comment pages are almost as funny as Guido’s
“Some of the comments can be tear-jerkingly funny – one BBC staffer confided that reading the comments here was “bad for her soul”. Does it really matter that much?”
Guido, thank you. Reading the above was most definitely goof for MY soul
Only cannabis…?
Guido, whilst the de-criminalisation of cannabis might seem like common sense, it does merit closer scutiny. Back in the days when perhaps you, I, and Cameron first experimented with it, it was probably fairly mild, homegrown or imported grass/or resin blocks. A pleasant, slightly sleepy high might result from moderate use.
But the stuff available on the streets now is a different kettle of fish. Incredibly strong skunk, which outpatient psychiatric units will tell you is resulting in a big increase in cannabis related psychosis, especially among young, heavy users.
Yes, these same users are going to continue to get supplies wether it is legal or not, but it is certainly not harmless to some people, though perhaps legalising it’s production and supply might make it easier to regulate it’s potency.
If that is true, and given my recent consumption experiences it may well be, the simple answer is to smoke less. Like having a single scotch instead of a double.
Legalisation would allow marketers to label the products with THC content guidelines.
All things in moderation, that some people become alcoholics is no reason to ban wine.
I agree – but it’s a bit like the “pubs stay open all hours” concept, drawn up by civilised, sensible middle class folk who envisage a mediteranian wine bar culture…and get town centres full of spewiing, brawling drunken tossers. Sometimes there is the law of unforseen consequences…
So instead, if legalized, we’d have the town centres full of people sitting down all over the place, eating snacks, and listening to music quietly but with lots of bass as they giggle and mumble to each other?
Thank god I’ll be walking home through a town centre of drunk people instead this weekend!!! That’ll be much nicer. Praise be.
Bad for her soul?
Probably – as in R Sole. I expect it gives her the shits.
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Oh really? Well your recent post about the Gaza flotilla was in amongst there on the loony pro Zionist peace phobic wing. Do as you would be done by Guido.
Well it is actually Guido’s blog so perhaps it is acceptable for Guido to decide the editorial content.
It is just not possible for jet fuel and office furniture to burn hot enough to melt steel.
People who maintain the 9/11 lie are under the boot of the joos or criminals.
I’m surprised that a devout libertarian like Guido lumps ‘muslim-haters’ in with ‘old fashioned racists’. Islam is, like all religions, a set of ideas, beliefs and opinions.
It is possible, and in a truly free society, desirable, to be able to object to another’s ideas and beliefs strongly enough to hate those who hold them without being deemed a criminal.
To hate someone because of their skin colour or sexual orientation is truly stupid. To hate someone because thier views and beliefs challenge or threaten one’s own is not unreasonable.
sorry, spp ‘their’
I’ve never, ever commented on a blog and I don’t intend to start now.
Lionel is Messy
If you really want some ideas on laws that need scrapping then you should take a serious look at the Anti-Money Laundrying Legislation. There’s an army of box ticking bureaucrats insisting that you prove where you live & you are who you say you are. But what they don’t ascertain is whether you’re a crook or not. So, for all the law abiding citizens it’s a hassle, with cost implications, & for the criminal world it’s no deterrent at all. Sounds like a prime candidate for cost saving, law scraping.
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