Ending MPs’ Taxpayer Funded Booze Subsidy
Hidden subsidies cost the taxpayers millions of pounds in order to finance the lifestyles of MPs, yet the fearless political reporters of the Lobby don’t seem too keen on reporting this hidden subsidy. Could it be because they too enjoy the taxpayer subsidised bars of the Parliamentary Estate?
The Speaker says he wants to bring prices in to line with High Street prices. In another piece of evidence based blogging you won’t see in the newspapers Guido has been fearlessly investigating what exactly are the prevailing market conditions around Westminster.
As the chart below shows, the average price of a pint of a Guinness is £3.45. MPs pay a mere £2.20 for a pint and the taxpayers make up the difference. Prices would have to rise 57% for them to match what the public pays in and around the Westminster area. They still know how to look after themselves don’t they?
MPs have no excuse for this subsidy and last Tuesday’s scenes of mass drunkeness hardly reflect well on Parliament. The first thing they should do to discourage that sort of behaviour is put the prices up to market rates, cheap drink has after all literally been their downfall. In these austere times of public sector cutbacks is it simply not justifiable for MPs to expect us to subsidise their drinking. Time please, drink up gentlemen, lets be having you…
Time gentlemen please!
Even if they were shut the giant alkyhol companies would just host even more lavish ‘meetings’ well stocked with refreshments to do their lobbying.
got an invite to Cleggerons do tonight?
“His memoir The Third Man: Life at the Heart of New Labour is out tomorrow and Guido will be providing full excerpts here on the blog from over-the-paywall.”
And came there silence…
No, it was just shite and everywhere.
As if any of us care.
A Belgian twat doesn’t care about your articles on Mandelson Guido.
You must be gutted.
fucking hell!
here comes the septic Bush cocksucker in chief to prove he’s still as braindead and wrong about everything as his idol
Peter Mandelson?
I remember him, he used to matter once.
Now he is no longer the Grand Poobah, just another sad and lonely old queen.
Mandelson = irrelevant.
paywall = nobody gets to read it
nobody gets to read it = irrelevant
It’s all circular, just like the ‘logic’ of the last government.
next ….
We’ve had your money, now fuck off!
Is it the fault of Alky Ada?
a bit of a pub crawl and 7 pints later.good work,if you can get it.
reporters of the Lobby don’t seem too keen on reporting this hidden subsidy. Could it be because they too enjoy the taxpayer subsidised bars of the Parliamentary Estate?,/i>
You got it in one Guido. But hardly a scoop.
One only needs 3 invoices for a press card.self billing will do from MGN
“Hardly a scoop”, but needing to be said, over and over.
Brilliant 1st post.
Like your style Guido! Put a bit of stick about eh? Just like the old days! I miss Stamper though!
Myself dealing with the Hon Reckless MP
How do we get them?
We put a bit of stick about…that’s what we do!
Anyone else get the Mandleson ad on this page? I would NOT get a hard on from him or his cabinet colleagues
You haven’t been stopped from going in the commons watering holes have you Mr Fawkes ?
I look forwaard to an article denouncing raves soon.
E’s are good, E’s are good, he’s Ebeneezer Goode.
Yeah, like everyone else, they’ll only go to the local pill dealers if they are priced out of the bar.
Other places cost more as they have london business rates and security and other things to pay for …. and are also told to put the prices high to discourage overdrinking … and do it just because they can.
If they are subsidised then maybe there is a point, but just because it’s cheaper than other places in the area doesn’t mean that we’re paying for it.
Plus – do you not think it’s good that they all drink in the same bar?
put the prices the same as elsewhere and each party will go to a different place each, away from the media pack.
The early nineties were the best years: Fantazia, Universe, Legends of the Dark Black, The Lazerdrome in Peckham, the Blue Note in Hoxton.
Fuck knows what my liver looks like……
those early days when you could go out to a generally well meaning cheap party ? dear god I have wet dreams about such an island, unfortunately the youth had to pay for Harriets retardoworkers.
yet another good reason to hate the cops
Life… is never enough (but it’s all you get)…
CP’s liver:
http://tinyurl.com/s283e
Mine graduated at Henneky’s in the Strand in the 1960s, now alas long gone.
What is the price of Guinness in Students’ Unions
Silence! Seek not to know the secrets of our pig-ignorant, semi-literate future ruling class!
Semi-literate? You’re being rather generous.
Still, we’ll employ ‘em.
How exactly are we subsidising this alcohol?
Not-for-profit is not the same as subsidy.
Don’t expect an answer from Guido on this one: “not-for-profit” ain’t in his vocabulary.
Who is paying the wages and overheads of this not-for-profit establishment? Or do you suggest that this establishment breaks even?
Tom Tom the baker’s son stole a pig and away he run.
Who’s paying your rent ?
Dan Dan the dirty old man,washed his face in a frying pan.Paid by the bent
My dear Bill, I don’t know WHAT you’re suggesting. I simply took pity on Mr Unsworth because he was down on his luck through no fault of his own and needed a break for once and didn’t deserve his suffering and was eighteen years old and horny as fuck. What has the world come to if people are suspicious merely because one pays two years’ rent in advance on a plush docklands duplex for a young man whose real name one doesn’t even know?
I cannot believe my tax dollars are going to subsidise these peoples alcohol! I will make a programme about it! When I get a researcher with big knockers!
Never mind that, Roger- I want to hear your next idea for a brand new game show!!!!
” Have you got no 2nd homes to go to? “
Wasn’t there some sort of argument by the great and the good about justifying price hikes on booze by claiming it deterred the sort of binge-drinking seen in Parliament the other night. – Time for a bit of their own medicine methinks.
er like not smoking in pubs?
Spoil sport
What will I do??! I need my cheap drink to wash down the 65,432 curries I eat every night.
Are the Parliament prices actually subsidised, or just sold at cost price?
You cannot sell at cost price unless you are subsidised.
True, cost price in terms of only getting back the barrellage means the other overheads such as staff etc would have to be subsidised. But the pricing to me looks about right in terms of covering overall costs. Plus, I would not be surprised if the beer is supplied at a heavier discount to curry favour with the piggies. But unless Guido gets some proof that the bars are subsidised – and I can’t see that happening – then this little campaign smacks more of opportunistic bitterness than investigative journalism.
In today’s Missing File, we’re looking for a special needs man in his 50′s who’s been missing since Tuesday 11 May 2010. He’s given to frequent bouts of anger and violence and requires regular medication to keep him stable. His carers are very concerned for his wellbeing. The public are advised to steer clear of this man if they see him as he poses a threat.
eyespymp
Rare spotting indeed! Gordon Brown seen rushing through Portcullis House.
No, just a local version of aurora borealis, easier to identify if one has been in the HoC bar.
I’m hiding under your bed! Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
It was me
No it wasn’t, it was me.
Hey! Get back in line.
Neighhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
HMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Agreed! Why on earth should we pay a penny towards their booze? Squeaker simply wants to ‘buy off’ any attempts to out him from his ‘lofty’ position. Nauseating……
Bercow midge t lofty position lololol
The truth must be told. How long did the research take you?
Yeah Guido, Own Up.
Was it just an excuse for a pub crawl?
If the price of a pint went up to £5, they would still get pissed.
I wager a lot of MP’s are alkoholiks and couldn’t give 2 fucks about the price of a pint.
Nice one Guido – you do a piece about drinking in the HOC with the knowledge that your fucking pet algorythm will decimate a lot of posts.
+1
always whining like a pathetic pussy aren’t you nonce ?
-10
I’ll bet He’s smirking. He may even be….s n i g g e r i n g.
S n i g g e r
S n i g g e r
hehehe
You could form a couple of football teams with the number of MPs who are functioning Alkyholics.
And the amusing things is the Lobby knows who they are, the whips certainly know who they are and even Mr Fawkes must know at who least some of them are.
If they’re functioning, what’s the problem?
Should have voted for George Galloway then
They still don’t get it. Bet it was the recent intake who got the most pissed. Bastards the lot of them.
Close down the bars and restaurants – Christ knows how much of a subsidy operates there.
They can go out and get a sandwich etc. like the rest of us have to.
Otherwise it’s piano wire at dawn for sure. Especially as cuts etc. start to bite.
Jusht because we’re the new intake doeshn’t make ush bad people. No, it doeshn’t. We’re good. Really. Our predecessors shtuffed you, but we’re different. *hic*.
Ish there anything important to vote on? Vat? Wassat? Vat 69? Reshult! But I think I’ll jusht drink.
the first run to the trough is a sight to behold
I hope that this is properly conducted research, Mr Fawkes. Like-for-like comparisons. Not just nicking the bar menu’s in each establishment for scanning but properly sampling the fare to see if there is any difference that accounts for the pricing differential.
If the HoC product were found to be watered down, then it might explain the price difference and Weights and Measures law (or any other) does not apply in there, as we all know.
It is a tough job.
Maybe the bar staff piss in the barrels. It would be The Right Thing To Do.
That is how it comes directly from some breweries that I have tried.
Anybody else who was drunk and incapable at work would be sacked. Who do these fuckers think they are?
I your besht friend in the whole world. Itsh true. It ish.
We all know why Sally wanted to be elected then?
I asked in the other thread.
Are the bars duty free with them being on Crown Property?
It is a long time since I drank in an army mess but the prices there were similarly very cheap compared with the real world.
passing
To be fair, the price in student bars is often a lot more comparable – around £2.50/pt. IIRC a pint of Guinness costs around £1.70 to buy, so as long as the costs of glass cleaning, rent and wages are covered by the rest…
Nice piece of Market Research Guido !!
This surely is therefore tax-deductable !!
You may need to verify your findings – to be sure to be sure!
~ible rather father !!
Guido. Selfless as usual, conducting vital cutting edge research. Mind you, at least we didn’t have to pay for it.
Keep going!
It’s worse than trivial, its plain wrong to suggest the taxpayer subsidises the politicians pint. The comparisons are with commercially opperated pubs. I assume the House of C bar is non profit making, so £2.20 for a pint of guiness is still way above the cost price. Most student union bars charge less than £2.20 per pint and I can buy 440 mls of Guiness in my local shop for 86p.
So lets hear about the real fiddles that go on. Why are spouses still allowed to be employed by MPs. Why does the equal opportunities law not apply to MPs staff?
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Another ‘double’ is now required for a great leader who has recently stepped down.
Applications to:
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The *Count* is not correct.
http://mrishmael.blogspot.com/2009/06/ed-balls-takes-phone-call-from-prime.html
It certainly explains how they managed to get the economy so wrong. One can imagine Broon on the other end, talking in the same manner.
SKRAAAAARRRKK!!! (brrrring) YOU’RETHROUGHMISTERBROWN!!! (klik) (drrrrrrrrr…) (flutter)
Try to keep up parrot.
That’s Mister Parrot, if you don’t mind…
I withdraw (SKRAAAAARK!!) The Seventeenth Earl of Parrot GCMG.
I took the liberty of examining this parrot when I got it home and I discovered that the only reason that it was standing on its perch was that it had been nailed there.
the Parrot is funny on occasion
you’re just a Belgian twat
tat fucked my pretty polly parrot zee last time ‘ere and it now ‘as zee lockjaw.
fuck off TaT
How many other places of “Employment” would countenance drinking in the workplace during working hours.
Someone could fall on an order paper and be crippled for life (with a bit of luck).
I am sure the Factory Inspectors would have a field day.
The lie told here, that the Royal Navy fought and secured the Empire in a fog of drunkenness and that the major wars were won by men with a hardy tolerance of alcohol is outrageous.
Despite all the Marxist revisionism, I can confirm, Her/His Majesty’s Navy fought all, or most, of it’s battles in total sobriety.
It was only on the occasions when certain death was considered the most likely out come, that a stiffener was given. Before action.
IE, Campbeltown.
We, in general only drink after a victory.
This may explain why those who are non-naval, think we drink to much.
The Royal Navy is just trying to keep up with it’s successes.
Clearly if MPs are getting too drunk to perform their jobs, for the sake of their health, and to ease the burden on the Health Services the only option is to impose more tax on Commons Bars and restaurants.
We already pay them a wage for carrying out their duties.
If they are too rat-faced to carry them out, stop paying them for the day.
There are plenty of walks of life where the consumption of intoxicating beverages during working hours is banned. If, for the safty of the public, people in safety-critical occupations must restrain their urges to consume such substances, should not those responsible for setting the country’s laws and rules?
Never mind removing subsidies from Parliamentary bars – ban the stuff from the premises. Maybe the idiots might concentrate a bit more on what we pay them to do.
I was 14 when I had a cunning plan. I shall leaflet for the local party.Then one day I will become an MP.Just by trotting out the same old shit everyone who ever went before me did. It was a simple but cunning plan that had the history of much success behind it.
I do not wish to know the details of the cunning plans of your 14-year-old self, thank you. No doubt the leaflets are still stuck together.
Saves on staples.
unlike you box girder bridges
Rivetting.
And i thought he was a civil engineer
An uncivil engineer, perhaps Mr Plum.
Most engineers are civil, and some are also civil engineers.
You certainly are civil, sir. However, not all civil engineers are civil, even contingently.
I have quaffed many freshers with civil engineers and they are a very lively bunch, unlike industrial architects, who are a bunch of fucking pussies (Zaha Hadid excluded).
Very kind of you, CRMM. It takes a gentleman to recognise a gentleman, if I might say so.
And vice versa, Engineer.
@cp. Zaha Hadid makes wonderful shapes with her designs but, maybe I am old fashioned, Norman Foster’s Millau viaduct is also a triumph. I do not like Richard Rogers’ designs, nothing to do with the fact that he is a fucking socialist. It’s just that they conflict with human experience.
it must be a bastard having to buy this of PH
Deep. Really deep.
Cosmic!
treading thin ice!
Don’t worry, light-weight shit floats
Mark reckless MP will miss out on this subsidised bar. What a idiot. For someone who is in a privileged position to get wrecked on the taxpayer and then not even vote. The whips need to get tough with him and fast!
I say drown him in a barrel of Malmsey wine.
Or Third Man juice.
This is also a tax avoidance scheme.
Ooh, whilst I’m here: http://stashbox.org/951291/turdman.jpg
Well if Northumbria plod are anything to go by in the investigative field come the uprising the whole lot won’t have a cat in hells chance
Thick as shite in the neck of bottle?
Netherlands: ‘Allah be with Oranje’
The Union of Moroccan Mosques in Amsterdam and the Area (UMMAO) wishes Oranje, the Dutch football team, success in the World Cup’s final match.
In a press release the UMMAO says they ‘also want to give our boys of Oranje a word of appreciation, support and pride! the Dutch team, a culturally and religiously diverse team, that should serve as an example for the world. This is the true Netherlands!”
I worked for a total of 2 years in Holland and i can assure you they fucking hate islam.
The Dutch are decadent and proud, all power to ‘em.
The ethnic Dutch will be a minority population in both Rotterdam and Amsterdam, by 2012.
Diversity: A posh word for the replacement of native Europeans.
Diversity. A synonym of low quality.
I’ll smoke to that.
Shmoke und a waffle.
Oh yesh.
kike
I see your local charges the most. Why the fuck do you go there?
You are assuming he sometimes gets a round in.
Because he can? Are you a Grauniad reader by any chance?
“Are you a Grauniad reader by any chance?”
Wash your mouth out you bastard.
Better class of political scumbag.
But aren’t they all drinking in the subsidised HoC bars?
How can they ever lecture our youth on the dangers of Binge drinking after last week.
I say close all the bars in the House. I dont have a bar in my office. Also bring in random Alcohol and Drug testing, see how they like the nanny state interferring with their fkg lives
They need the bars in order to get a free refill of carbon dioxide. They pump in the gas under pressure (don’t ask through which orifice) so that the MP can burble it all out again in the House or on the wireless or telly. An active MP needs at least 40 litres of gas a day, at atmospheric pressure, in order to function.
50/50 nitrogen.By the way nitrogen (80% of the atmosphere)gassing causes those exposed to it to have a sense of abandonment were they know they are dying but don’t give a fuck.
So they get above average wages, and pay below average prices. What a surprise.
Thish ish why I becomed an MP. And I don’t have to vote. You’d think show, but oh, noesh. I jusht drink. Nothing important *hic* to vote on. Look away. Nothing to shee.
We can trust MPs to do The Right Thing.
After all, they have our trust and respect.
We ‘voted’ for them.
But just let one stray near me looking a little the worse for wear on subsidised b o o z e and he may drown in his own sorrows. And he won’t even feel any pain.
No. Maybe he will a little.
Well, if it’s any Brhoon’s loonies, quite a lot actually.
Can i jush shay that drinking providshes an important way for MPs to get in touch with the problams of ordin… ordun… ordan… common folk.
Theeers… theres a big problam in zish country with boozing and itsh important that MPs in the House of Cummmlins know what is, what ish like to be pissed on the streets of, of… wherever you are, after they get booted oot on tha stretts.
Do I make myself clea… cler… queer?
That’sh what I said! Yesh, it is! You’re great, you are. You are. I, what, no, I went into politicsh becaush of you. I love you. You inshpired me. Yesh. True. It ish true. I’m the new breed, yesh, but I shtill reshpect you. True.
If I fancy a pint I have to buy it out of my wages. That’s less than two pints per hour on the minimum wage the ragged trousered philanthropists were spending roughly the same in early 1900s. What’s changed? Libs cons libcons also in power at that time. Just exactly who voted for this situation. Let MPs eat cake.
and yet prior to decimal 10 bob got you 5 10 cigs pints and chips on the way home.
try that again 10 cigs 5 pints and chips on the way home for 10 bob
10 bob = 50 p
Any bloggers out there wish to join me on the coalitions next “booze cruise” to Calais ??
the local chaps who once wore the turbans can supply here at EU prices
I had amazing sex with a male prostitute in the local brass house.
The Brass family were far from happy about it.
Cazza, are you horny? Would you like to give me sucky sucky?
Sucky sucky? I am unfamiliar with that expression. What is its relevance?
Oh, I don’t think we want to see any of that sort of thing around here. Not while the court is sitting.
(Would you mind leaving a telephone number with the usher?)
I heard the most imaginative plea for change last night. Most will simply say “Can you spare a pound?” but this woman actually said “I’m not homeless, I have my own flat but…” and before she could finish the sentence, I just said I don’t have any change. But I should have said “If you’re not homeless and have your own flat, then why the fuck do you want my money for?”
£100,000+ tax free is possible, I have heard. That is a good start.
I have two homes, both of which you pay for
Can I have another £500.000?
Ed Ballbag
It’s possible to have your own flat, and nonetheless have no cash. Believe me.
not a lot a people know that
Drink
How did you manage that and not get modded?? ‘Tis not fair !! I have been modded more times for that word than I have had breakfasts!!
Drink
When I used that word on ConservativeHome, they took out a contract on me!
Trev! Why did Guido give you a posh avatar?
Trev has a blog with his avatar and guido messing about on his enabled linking,then decided against it has it has trackback.Correct?
Not many people ….
I’m sure it is all done in the interest of fairness, the MP’s from poor backgrounds would feel left out if they were not able to get sloshed like the more wealthier MP’s we can’t have a two tier system in drunkenness can we.
I’ve have to be p i s s e d to sit opposite Harpers. Or Glovepuppet Gove for that matter.
Gove looks like he has been sucked by a vampire leaving him a bit shrivelled,this sounds worse the more I describe it.
My name is
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMNMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Oh sod this fucking stammer
Uum, I agwee. Evewyone, uuum, should speak, uum, cleawly like me.
Confessional.
Well, get on with it then. And make it spicy. We’re bored stiff after listening to “Ooh, and I had an uncharitable thought about next door’s budgie” all day.
(skrittle) (flap) (stare) OOYOULOOKIN’AT!!!
I followed up your blog post fyi: http://bit.ly/dm6Kmc <Thanks. V important to keep the pressure on Hague
I don’t think it’s in doubt that these scheming toe-rag MP’s need to be under the same HMRC rules as the rest of the countries taxpayer plebs, lots of people live away from home, lots of people like a drink and have to pay the going rate these bastards have taxed the booze, they have shown they are nothing special just lying, conniving money grabbing rubbish.
Sod booze,it’s a spliff we demand in the HOC
leftfootfwd Poll shows 70% of people in the UK think cannabis should be legalised: http://bit.ly/djbW9A
….of which 14% think that…what was the question….have you noticed how the light glints off your clipboard ha-ha clipboard what a funny word…
actually Bill that forgetfulness only happens to those who also drink,or they are on the way to alz
Don’t forget to claim your research against tax, Guido.
Fuck! Where did these avatars come from?
They have changed already. Sir Trev Skint MP had a fancy one. Now he is down with us again.
Gone again, all within minutes. Is it the aforementioned aurora borealis, or something from the HoC bar?
Gone.
We appear to be getting injected, inspected, detected, infected, neglected and selected.
Some people have all the fun.
I want my avatar back.
No, this time I’m keeping it. Why don’t you go and play INSIDE the house?
…all of which makes me very dejected…
clear your history, I just got rid of them by doing it.
You mean you can solve problems by wiping out all knowledge of the past? Maybe English education policy works after all!
After a heavy night in the pub followed by many tinctures, a friend said to me, completely seriously, “History…………………..what’s the the point in history?”
……….?
One of the few points on which I disagreed totally with Henry Ford.
worked for me
Oh no that’s tacky >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
It looked all right when Betty Boothroyd was wearing it.
Be fair
Bercow is trying to clear the place up and its a tough job
Just like getting all of the Cum out of his wife “Circle line Sally” when she comes home most evenings
It wouldnt surprise me if he didn’t make the fucking slag sit on the wool sack most evenings just to dry up the gloop before mounting her still soggy
minge and then pumping away like a crack addicted Bonobo Chimp with Cecil Parkinsons disease
Never before have I appreciated the ‘Beast’ in your moniker as graphically!
It was a fucking pleasure
Bercow is still a C U Next Tuesday.
she’s almost as big a slut as shagger nokes
What a disgrace. Sexually enthusiastic women with minds of their own should be driven out of Parliament!
onward christian soldiers, marching to nokes twat
No – not so – whole armies have marched upon Sally.
Jaysys wept.
Pass the mind bleach, Alice.
tower block on fire kingston
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/10607549.stm
A fucking disgrace
The fire brigade should have sealed all the doors and then placed spiked blankets all around the place, then sprayed petrol into open windows
A few less “ASYLUM SEEKERS” methinks
don’t know the area.is it ethnic?
getting worse
http://twitpic.com/24pky5
Funny BBC and Sky can’t get a camera team there,probably all in Belfast for the kickoff of the century tonight.
Nothing of value will be lost
Any man’s death diminishes me, for I am involved in all mankind.
> I am involved in all mankind
So would Mandy, if he got the chance.
so would you septic
you’re choking down on Bush’s cock and jizz as it is
this was odd.
http://5thnovember.blogspot.com/
Not interesting, though.
Now loosh here Gui..Gui.. Fawkes ol chap.
Nawmally,..I {hic} agree with some of your stories. Bahhht…this just isn’t on.
MPeas work ver har day in aaand day out to loosh after the interests of the ordinay common man..and woman. Mustn’t forgesh the women. I’ll ger her some flaweras later..anyway..wha’ was i sayin?
Oh yesh..{hic}
Its only fair that the hardworking legisl..legeris..leger ..er..slaters can enjoy a lil ole drinkie at workeh? I mean..wa theharm? Eh?
right..off to vote..wish door ish it today?..In here…bit Dark..
{click}
Opps! Shorry Noaksie..didn’t know ewe were shtill here..{burp}..{click}
Fear not, Bill. You’re not as thunk as dreeple pink you are.
quite so
What about food?
The dirty filthy subhuman lying thieving kiddy-fiddling raping junkie pimp gay war-criminal incest-buggering animal-fuckers, only pay £2 for a £6 pizza – taxpayers have to folk out the other £4 for the vile Satanic shit.
MPs should be tied to lampposts and set on fire. They are vermin.
I see you’ve attended the Foreign Office course for aspiring diplomats. I see a glittering career ahead of you, possibly as our representative in one of the stricter Islamic countries.
Why are you being so polite and sucking up to these people when they deserve to be ridiculed?
You bounder!
The calibre of honorable members has just declined terribly over the last 13 years or so. They all want cheap, taxpayer funded al+++cohol and none of them can hold their d+r+ink when they get it!
Now Churchill consumed a b++ottle of fine c++hampagne and a half b++ottle of finest b++randy a day ( all at his own expense) and still remained sober and won a war!!
a proper sot never looks d*runk
horseshit
MPs have always been hopeless sots
see some of Hogarths work
and BTW Winston and Queen Victoria enjoyed something considerably stronger than brandy
there’s an old cow by me that only needs topping up ,she can hold her b*ooze better than anyone I ever saw.
Your knowledge of history is stunning as is most of our labour educated children!
Queen Vicky died in 1901 aged 81. At the time Churchhill was engaged in the 2nd Boer War which ran from 1899-1902. He was 27 in 1901!!!
more horseshit from the fuckwit nell
fuck me nell you really are the most stupid person on this site
“Recently uncovered records in Scotland suggest that Queen Victoria and her young house guest, Winston Churchill, consumed cocaine-filled lozenges for sore throats and other maladies contracted while staying at Balmoral Castle.”
http://www.a1b2c3.com/drugs/coc11.htm
now how about an apology you senile old daft twat ?
I said a proper sot,fuck MP’s
But you’ll still be ugly!
Whatto Nell.
Just recovered from a hard days work at the Taser Testing Centre somewhere nearby you in Norfuck?
I have worked it out that you are abscent for twenty hours a day off of this blog.
Just enough time to recover from your early morning Guinea Pig test.
Couldn’t you try a sawn off held at your neck next time.
‘absent for twenty hours of the day from this blog’??
Of course! Don’t you know most of us work for a living!!!!
nell’s a working girl.
Sir Stafford Cripps was legless by eleven each morning. So was Lady Astor. People forget these things.
wasn’t she Cleggs gran
I don’t think you should blame her for a single drunken indiscretion all those years ago.
I’d forgetten
SO was the famous “F.E.” Smith…
“F.E.” Smith was Clegg’s gran?
Lord Birkenhead
The best lawyer of his day
And mate of Winston’s…
Lady Astor was a lifelong teetotaller ! But what do the facts matter?
Oh, come on. Don’t believe the spin.
MPs make me sick. Free food and subsidised alcohol for people in receipt of a salary three times the national average wage. Why don’t pensioners or disabled service personnel have free food and subsidised Guinness? Why aren’t pensioners or disabled service personnel able to claim back from the Government the cost of a taxi-ride home from the supermarket or the Bingo?
Fuck the poor
“foo”
There is one old guy who gets credit cards in his pets names and gives bottles of scotch away to other oldies.they have not tried to make him pay it back.
“Why aren’t pensioners or disabled service personnel able to claim back from the Government the cost of a taxi-ride home from the supermarket or the Bingo?”
They are, they are. They just can’t be bothered to fill in the forms.
> Why aren’t pensioners or disabled service personnel able to claim back from the Government the cost of a taxi-ride home from the supermarket or the Bingo?
That’s fellow taxpayers paying not the government. Both are wrong. One wrong does not make two wrongs right.
…or from the National Gallery, AC1! But agree it should not happen.
A woman goes into a doctors’ surgery and says to the doctor: “Doctor. I’ve got a terrible problem with discharge.”
The doctor says: “OK! Take your knickers off and pop up on the couch.”
The woman does as she’s told and the doctor starts to probe her fanny. He uses all manner of medical instruments to look at her minge before he comes and up and says to the woman: “I’m afraid I’m going to have to get a second opinion on this.”
He calls in another doctor who uses even more medial instruments to probe her chuff before he surfaces looking perplexed. “I’m afraid we need to call in specialist,” he says.
The specialist comes in and probes her deeper and harder than the two previous doctors before he to comes up looking perplexed.
He says to the woman: “We’ve all had a look and probe around your vagina but none of us were able to find any sign of any discharge.”
“Actually,” the woman says, “the discharge is in my ear, but thankyou all for a wonderful afternoon.”
“the discharge is in my ear, but thankyou all for a wonderful afternoon.”
Yeah, in your fucking sick mind you hoon.
My mate at work looked decidedly off-colour the other day. “You look like you’ve got something on your mind” says I. “I have,” he replies. “It’s a bit of the old waterworks problem.” “You need to get a doc’s appointment” was my advice. “Well, I would, but that damned receptionist always prys into the details when you ask for an appointment, and it really puts me off.” “Well, tell her you’ve got an ear problem,” I suggest. “Good idea” says he.
“Hello, may I have an appointment to see the doctor?”
“What’s the trouble?”
“It’s my ear.”
“What’s the problem with your ear?”
“I can’t piss out of it.”
that should be no problem for you, being a fucking piss head.
dickhead piss head
Wicked thought. never seen an Mp in a GP surgery. Not subsidised private health care for them by chance? like the USA for congress.
THE SILENCE IS DEAFENING
Never seen one in the 4 and 6 bay mixed wards of our local hospitals either have you??
And neither will you.
Ever wondered where gordon went to when he needed his treatment for mental breakdown??!!
same place cameron went for his VD treatement
STRANGERS BAR my arse more like SPONGERS BAR!!!
Right now, Ayesha is hard at work writing me some great jokes for Wednesday’s PMQs. She wrote me a corker last week, the one about suggesting Ken Clarke visit Ronnie Scott’s.
It’s just a shame I can’t deliver a joke to save my life.
I went to the House Of Commons for a dinner recently – as Joe Schmoe off the street I paid £3.40 for a bottle of Becks, so clearly it’s only MPs who get the subsidy…
That makes it even worse. Discrimination and we pay through the nose for it. Bastards.
Drink Drink Drink Drink Drink Drink Drink Drink Drink Drink Drink Drink Drink Drink
Stop it you are making me cross!!
Because if I do that I’ll get modded!!!
Going to the Norfolk Show this year nell?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/howaboutthat/7885323/The-14th-Annual-Summer-Redneck-Games-in-Georgia.html
because she’s a senile old pisshead and it’s giving her the DTs
Blow the fuckers up and start again and make them follow the same rules we have too and watch them squirm like we have too.
I wish Labour had got back in. I’ve been absolutely coining it in for the past 13 years. I’ve got a detached house in Surrey, a wonderful place in the south of France and I’ve paid for Tarquin and Sophie to attend an excellent school. Now it looks like I’ll lose my job. What can I do?
What do you look like naked?
Like this. I’m the lady on stage.
So THAT’S what goes on at Primary Care Trust meetings. I’d often wondered.
I look like Gok Wan’s saggy ball bags.
He looks like the love child between Mark Lamarr and Janet Street Porter.
http://tinyurl.com/2vc8xqj
that amused my sick humour
Margaret Moran has fallen on hard times since leaving Parliament.
I know her and she is much worse now without the teeth
Does she mean Asda is bad as in shit or bad as in good?
it’s nell
http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/2010/07/government-wine-list-the-fight-continues/
twatson’s not content with the contents of Stranger’s Bar – he also wants to access the w++ine in the Government Hospitality cellars, no doubt that’s not just cheap it’s free!! Well done tom!!!
good.they knock more nails into their coffins every day,what today could be forgiven by change tomorrow will have them killed.
What astonishes me about Twatson is that his face is so fat his eyes are virtually closed…
A real freak…
Stuff like this just makes me angry… AGAIN!
Should just make Labour Voters pay an extra £3 on top of every pint. (Sort out that damn Budget Deficit.)
I like cock.
all bankers are conservatives.
What did I tell you? Mention cock and a Labour wanker turns up.
Conservative MP’s robbed you too with the bankers you stupid little drone
The state used the bankers to rob us.
They decided we needed a huge volume of credit.
They just bribed the bankers with a bit of the credit, whilst they kept most of it via taxation of our future incomes.
I like cock
Well, you can’t have any. It’s all mine.
Yeah like that chum of Browns who happened to run Northern Crock?
You need to shout at the TV more. The £3 will only begin to pay for their part in the mess. They should be paying our £3 as well!
Why would they be paying £3 to a Belgian?
Ah zee tat – you left wizzout paying last time and left me with nasty dizeease.
With no football this weekend, maybe you folks fancy a day-tip.
Drop in at the Cooper’s Arms in St Margaret’s Street, Rochester–just across the road from the Cathedral chapter and the King’s School. A cosy little place based on a 13th C Monastry tap room–first place I ever had an (underage) drink.
Mark Reckless usually pops in to cruise most Saturday Aftenoons or Sunday Lunchtime.
Within the heat on in London–I reckon he will be in the beer garden for the whole weekend. I intend to cadge a couple of rounds off him and try to find out if the Rent Boys in Westminster are also subsidsed by taxpayers.
While Mr Reckless’s personal page has been removed from the Conservative Hime site–you can read about his Save the Pub campain here.
http://markreckless.com/2009/09/14/save-the-great-british-pub-2/
It’s a health and safety issue, the drunkeness you mention was a direct result of the House selling the booze at less than cost (like the dreadful supermarkets who they winge about but are too frightened to take on) – double the price and then double it again until they cannot afford it. They will then be able to do their jobs. And when they sober up, have an understanding of the “issues” and what it is like for the rest of us.
Good grief. So you went to a lot of expensive pubs in the most touristy part of London, all of which presumably pay prohibitive rent and charge tourist prices, and conclude that the House of Commons, which owns the freehold and doesn’t charge tourist prices, is overpriced and subsidised.
But then in fairness, given that even student union bars manage to produce accounts at the end of the year, I’m surprised the authorities cant do the same, which might help resolve this issue .
Perhaps Parliament should tender one of the major pub chains to run the bars on a commercial basis?
The public don’t give a monkeys.
They voted most of them back in, didn’t they?
The public voted for non government,it was the corrupt deal between Camerdickhead and Cleggerthunk that fucked it.
I give a monkeys. I’m sick of the abuse. I’m sick of the poor returns from these MPs. Ask them a question and get an answer in 6 months if your lucky. Thats if they answer at all. They are all bastards. But in true British style we let them get away with murder – so they do. The only way we’ll change things is by making change happen ourselves. The time for talking is over – now for action
They say the British don’t do revolutions….
True but then again their is not many original Brits left these days.
Johnny Foreigner with a British passport is a whole new ball game the snakes in Westminister shouldn’t get too complacent about.
Lors ! On Newsnight tonight ( good to see Ms Wark get a thumping from Lansley by the way) the number crusher Mason was reporting from Spain and the celebrations over the Football; he interviewed a group of P*k*st*n*s who loudly declared that they were all proud Spaniards. Bit oleaginous really; M*sl*ms either at your feet or at your throat.
Complacent they are not – at least, not the movers and shakers, as distinct from the rest of the drunks, chancers and on-the-make scum.
Labour’s clandestine major policy was unrestricted immigration. That policy continues.
“The national census due to take place in 2011 could be the last of its kind.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10584385.stm
Now, why would they want to do that?
“Cabinet Office minister Francis Maude…said population counts could be done more often using various databases.
“This would give you more accurate, much more timely data in real time. There is a load of data out there in loads of different places,” ”
Take a wild guess at what he’s talking a load of.
watch they don’t send snarler of the met with his taser round for you mate.
those doggy bags the cops make sure you have if they see you walking a dog.stops the fuckers getting your dna.
Which side is Guido cheering on tonight in the Belfast riots?
The tricolour o course
Suck my plums.
Heartening to hear a senior politician encouraging us all to eat healthy food. Well done!
The “credit rating agencies …. embarrassed themselves by slapping triple-A ratings on all kinds of US mortgage junk and nobody should believe they offer better insight than the gilt market into the worth of UK debt.” GRAUNIAD (occasionally right)
Just a thought…
MPs claim they’re short of office space, yet lots of parliament is given over to non-core functions like boozing and restaurants, all subbed by the taxpayer.
Close them all, and turn them into office space. Could even turn some into over-night dorms, back packer style.
We will, of course, give your suggestion a full and thorough consideration this evening, over a jar or ten of taxpayer funded brain lubricant.
these people continue to take the piss out of the electorate. No matter how much they say they’ll clean it up, they only do so to a different sort of clean, one formed in their own likeness. It’s about time we took guns to the lot of them. Where’s Raoul when you need him
Kirsty Squark in a nice skirt on Snoozenight. And two MILFs in skirts on the panel who are going to question Lansley.
Pass me another firkin of Guinness and a Balthazar of Crystal. I’m taking ny diary secretary back to Admiralty for a quick one.
The Journey – Amazon -40%. Would not buy it if it were -94%.
kickoff belfast loike oi said
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jNzlO_HDT9z2VIAjQtX2evI4EFUQD9GTLI281
Dear God. We thank you for another day delivered from evil and pray for peace on earth, love for mankind and a thunderbolt on or about Big Ben at a quarter past noon on Wednesday.
wellied
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/worldnews/7885999/Dairy-farmers-throw-boots-at-police-outside-the-EU-Council-building-in-Brussels.html
Actually it’s serious what is happening to farmers in the EUSSR
After decades of subsidiing production and stopping market forces freom working the Common Agricultural Policy is,coming apart at the seams…
Too many farmers…low productivity and the Budget getting squeezed…
Another faiiled European policy…
Like the Fisheries disaster…
And I won’t mention the euro, for fear of intruding upon private grief.
Speaking of disinformation, I couldn’t believe my eyes when I saw this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batley
“Batley is a town within the Metropolitan Borough of Kirklees, in West Yorkshire, England.”
What utter nonsense. They must take us for complete fools.
Good grief! Over £3 a pint! You wouldn’t sell much round here.
funny we don’t get this much detail off our own media.bastards.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_NORTHERN_IRELAND?SITE=MATAU&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
Andrew Landsly Newsnight. At last a Minister in control of his brief.
Thank you Lazards…
Hear hear. Controlled the interview well in spite of Wark being a total fucktard as usual.
Hello boys
This is your old friend Archbishop Mandelson
Did you see me on my Fortnum and Mason bicyle this weekend…
It’s so dinky…The seat was custom made to keep the Mars Bar in place ..what a lovely silky feeling…
I understand Marion Faithfull now..
But I vewy upset really
Someone called my wonderful new book “A wet fart”
That is a lie…It’s full of cheap gossip, Blinky, Twinky and Pinkie stories…
And all those homo gangs bangs we had in Downing Street when the lights were out..
Oh for the Bunker…
Tiidddly pooo poo
let’s go for a holiday on a yacht again ducky
what larks and jolly fun
In Jamaica
We say that MPs in Britain are only intereste in pies and piss…
At least we like riice and peeees…
Andrew Lansley did a sterling job on Newsnight tonight. He took no shit from Kirsty Wark, in fact he pwned her. Good job, her shrill voice makes me want to slap her hard.
What is it with the Scottish TV Mafia FFS?
Double standards and feathering their own nests and applying different rules to themselves?
Some mistake surely!
The general population being forced to pay higher prices and forced to endure a smoking ban based on fraudulant ‘scientific’ evidence and faked studies regarding the risk of passive smoking/second hand smoke.
Pubs closing down everyday because of high prices and draconian laws but the Westminster village protects their own drinking holes and the public pays for their priviliges?
Some mistake surely!
A rotten corrupt parliament run by rotten corrupt scum for the exclusive benefit of a few and financed by the many, this is the reality of todays so called democracy.
Need a fake inquiry or three? The Westminster vermin are experts. Need to enact anti democratic and draconian laws but need faked up evidence and faked up grassroots feeling? The Westminster vermin can lash up any old crap put together by supplicant spongers always keen to suck the establishments c*ck for the price of a K and a gong and a place on the gravytrain.
The state has minions like Muir Russell always ready and willing to lie and cheat and put his name to whitewash rubbish, his peformance with the Holyrood palace fiasco and the gigantic waste of public money on a Scottish ‘parliament’ and his subsequent cover up places him in a perfect position to perform any oral antics the state requires.
We no longer live in a democracy, in a landfill somewhere lays the rotting remains of our democracy, the unwanted votes of an electorate who just didnt realise that their vote now counts for nothing, the state has the mechanisms for deciding who gets elected and whose votes end up in a landfill.
One look at the new ‘improved’ ballot boxes tells you all you need to know about the states intentions, the new post democratic reality means that the political class decides who wins BEFORE the election, the actual person on the street is now simply fake window dressing ala USSR and Iran and Zimbabwe.
Still at least the state provides such delights as celebrity eastenders on ice and Britain aint got talent and football matches entertain the drooling mob in between getting in line for the states pennies.
agreed
Possibly already covered but too lazy to read 300 odd posts. Real comparison should be between Commons retail price and wholesale price that is paid to brewers. Latter may well be lower than that paid by managed/tied pubs around Palace of Westminster as brewers are almost as greedy as MPs and routinely screw the landlords. Whether the mark up between wholesale and retail is enough to cover the real running costs is however another matter (probably not).
Labour cabinet members on Brown’s chances of winning the election:
Futile, Finished, Fucked.
Harriet Harman proposed basing the party’s election campaign around three Fs: future, family and fairness. The former Business Secretary recounts that other ministers proposed their own Fs.
“How about f****d?” Alistair Darling proposed. “Futile?” said Douglas Alexander. “Finished,” added Lord Mandelson, who was chairing the meeting.
He also reveals that Mr Alexander thought Mr Brown lacked the “skill-set” to be Prime Minister and that Mr Darling said Labour would lose if he remained in charge…..”
Mandelson writes that Brown and Darling rowed over economic strategy. He “vetoed point-blank” a proposal from Darling to raise VAT up to 18% or 19%. The then chancellor then blocked a proposal from Brown to rule out VAT rises under Labour in the course of that parliament.
Mandelson reveals how Darling raised concerns about the fiscal deficit. At a No 10 meeting the then chancellor told Brown “we cannot just borrow more to pay for frontline services”. Brown replied by saying that economic growth would reduce the record fiscal deficit.
The memoirs relate the tense discussions as Mandelson, Darling and then Ed Balls finally persuaded Brown to acknowledge there would have to be spending cuts. When Brown used the words in a speech to the TUC, he turned to Mandelson and Balls and asked: “Well, are you satisfied, all of you?”
Mandy agreed that Brown was Bonkers!
OT but Balls took a battering from Humphries on R4 just now…
What absolutely infuriates me is that the debate that led to the drunkeness was artifically lengthened so MPs could qualify for free overnight accommodation.
The state of the nation is safe in their hands then
NOT!!
They should be ashamed of themselves, not fit to sweep the streets.
Excellent – Humphrys managed to thwart The Testicular One’s attempt at a leadership broadcast this morning on Toady. He even denies reading any part of Mandelslime’s book. Listening to him trying to distance himself from McBust’s slow and painful car-crash of a government was just so convincing. And he doesn’t like Andrew Rawnsley either, even though everyone else regards his latest book as a very well-researched and authoritative work. And he’s discovered a new word that he thinks makes him sound important – ‘profound’.
What an utterly pitiful character he is. To think this cretinous bully-boy could one day become PM. As long as we are infested with creeps like him, there is absolutely no hope.
Agreed 100%, and I loved the last words…Humphries: “Ed Balls – thank you” Balls: “…pha!!”
The fearless political reporters of the Lobby you refer to Guido are part of the problem, as always systematically failing to report anything that would derail the Westminster gravy train for fear of missing out on a free piss up.
The dead tree press has had its day, talented fearless reporters have moved on, only the gutless self serving spoilers remain, in truth a fair reflection of our Parliamentary system as a whole.
This is a wonderful example of our MP’s 3 cheers!!!
Find out what the HoC pays for their barrelage and then we might really be able to tell if we’re subisidising their booze. My local cricket club charges about £2.30 a pint and still works on a margin of 50%.
The big breweries are shifty greedy bastards and will screw you to the floorboards if you’re not careful. I expect they do a very nice deal for the MPs though. That would be some proper investigative blogging Guido. Comparing the retail price tells us nothing really. Find out what the bar staff make in the HoC compared to the Westminster boozers tooo.
Can they really be serious about solving the binge drinking problem in the UK when they are doing it themselves?
My understanding is that the various pubs you quote are all, well, profit-taking businesses. The House of Commons refreshment department is not. Perhaps this explains the difference in price?
BTW whose onerous task was it to go round the bars and pubs of Westminster, “finding out how much Guiness costs”?
Dear Guido – it clearly irks you that MPs and their staff and all the other workers in Westminster and the journos of course have access to ‘cheap’ Guinness.
But pubs have to make a profit and have to pay tax and rates and rent overheads.
Private Clubs on the other hand operate for the benefit of their members and some like the social club I help run have free rent and no overheads because it returns its profits to the its village hall. It sells ‘cheap’ beer.
So prices in the HoC will always and should always be lower.
Tough titty on you and your hysterical followers. If you can show that the bars in the HoC make a loss then fine – prices should be put up to cover that. But when you talk such obvious bollocks about a subject I actually know about, well dear (ex barrow) boy, it makes me wonder about all your other musings.
The House of Commons catering department has for decades made huge multi-million pound losses picked up by the taxpayer. Idiot.
Thieving b’stards the lot of them!
Spot on, Guido. Why should we be taxed to the max for our booze, then be forced to subsidize MPs? It isn’t on at any time, and especially not in the present financial climate.
It’s probably not subsidised, it’s probably just sold at cost.