June 29th, 2010

Labour Leadership’s Lingering Deficit Denial

Guido isn’t normally one for line-by-line analysis, but when glancing over Ed Miliband’s speech from earlier something very obvious stuck out. Take a look at what Ed was talking about the most:


What the speech boils down to is “People Want Labour and the State”. The election reality clearly hasn’t set in.

Compare the weight of words like “state” and “want” to “cut” and “deficit”. They are in utter denial.  The Labour leadership candidates aren’t going to get any cut through with their campaigns unless they stop talking about themselves and denying the hell-hole of a situation the country is in. They slam the coalition for their plans and far from offering any alternatives, simply whine.


199 Comments

  1. 1
    Gordon Brown says:

    Today I have stayed in bed. Again.

  2. 2
    pp says:

    Labour cannot admit the truth, it would destroy them.

    They have to pretend that they did a reasonable job, and their supporters have to pretend to beleive them…

  3. 3
    Tory Twat says:

    THIS IS GETTING BEYOND A JOKE

    Hasnt Gudio had the memo yet. The Tories are in power now !!!!.

    PS I see the FT is Down AGAIN. Down every single day since the Budget ( A Tory Budget, by the way Guidio )

  4. 4

    Milliband is just like Dromey and the other deniers, they really want us to believe that Britain is a ‘Labour country’.

    I think they’ll find that ENGLAND fucking well isn’t.

    England is virtually blue all over.

    English parliament please.

    Chop fucking chop…………………….c*nts.

  5. 5
    Hugh Janus says:

    Any Militwat speech is just vacuous waffle and deserves to be completely ignored.

  6. 6
    Snotrocket says:

    The stupid prat David Miliband was on the Jeremy Vain show on Radio 2. He (Miliband) had the gall to say that Britain was a ‘richer country’ now than it was 13 years ago!!!

    Apparently, the huge deficit and the debts his government ran up are all OK because the Labour government made it a ‘fairer society’.

    But never mind. That idiot Vain spent most of the interview asking him about his brother, Ed, and how they get on, and almost nothing about his plans etc.

  7. 7
    Gordon Brown Pants says:

    Och no, I seem to have shat meself again

  8. 8
    Anonymous says:

    says need not want more.

    He thinks he knows what we need .. arrogant bastard

  9. 9
    kk says:

    dissolve the union. let the scots & the welsh go their own way, free of english ‘oppression’ & see how long it takes for them to make their commo hellholes as bad as cuba

  10. 10
    Labour Arsehole says:

    Nasty Tories, racking up £1 trillion debt and a deficit of £165 billion a year after their 6 weeks of power.

    Ball bag.

  11. 11
    Mong Zoo says:

    Down down down.all the meerkats

  12. 12
  13. 13
    Hugh Janus says:

    They did try to make it so, as evidenced by their decision to let immigration rip. Trouble is, they went down to a serious defeat at the general election, although they have yet to notice this little inconvenience. Another brilliant scheme from a bunch of mental pygmies.

    NuLiebour – wrecking and wasting is what we do.

  14. 14
    Bored at Work says:

    As Gordon’s pants, surely you’ve been shat *on*

  15. 15
    Eds da ball says:

    We is Libour now.

  16. 16
    sick of labour apologists says:

    Tory twat

    you and your creed are total arseh@les. The markets are adjusting to the new realities as we understand ever more the mess Liebour, McBroon(still picking up his money the tosser) Lord mandy (now hobnobbing with the rich and powerful- no change there then), arch scum spinner Draper (how come this idiot is allowed into Parliment) have left this country in.

    Remember Brown stole from the past (selling gold, raiding pensions) and borrowed from our childrens futures (look at the deficit and debt).

    Four legs good two legs bad – as always labour screwed it up.

    Get a brain – stop following the herd. As you get older you’ll realise the truth of Labour hurt.

  17. 17
    Banana Boat captain. says:

    Hello fellow banana boaters.It is good to have landed in England is it not. To be here and voting for the great politicians.

  18. 18
    Selohesra says:

    The sad thing is that after 5 more years of propaganda by the BBC and the short memories & apathy of a large chunk of the electorate there may be enough voters out there prepared to give Labour (old or new) another chance at the next election.

  19. 19
    That's Democracy says:

    Cost of Benefit Fraud per year in UK: 60 million
    Cost of tax evasion per year in UK: 140 billion

    Are we “closing in” on tax evaders? Yes, we’re all in this together.

    That’s democracy, apparently.

  20. 20
    Sir Reginald Titbrain says:

    It’s quite simple. Add up all the assets, forget the debt.

    Easy, and justified.

    You see we’ve got all the assets, and out kids will get all the debt.

  21. 21
    Labour Lost says:

    Labour have lost the election and now they have lost the plot. They are gimmicks & soundbites. This party is unapolegectic and arrogant. They attack the Coalition for the mess they created while refusing to come up with any rational alternative solutions to our problems. I would not trust Labour further than I can throw them.

  22. 22
    Dr Snot says:

    Shove it up your arse you Labour twat. To this day we still endure the Left bleating ‘Fatcher, Fatcher, Fatcher’ and she’s been out of power for two fucking decades. So if you think we’re going to let moth-eaten Brown and his cretinous band of acolytes off the hook while the country’s still suffering from the economic misery they created you’ve got another thing coming.

  23. 23
    Mr Plum says:

    How do they know

  24. 24
    The big D says:

    Which pot do MP’s expenses fall in?

  25. 25
    Gordon says:

    My name is in the wordle – it is so large that you can’t see it

  26. 26
    Dig for Victory says:

    Too true, and all the new voters at the next election will have been miss-educated to favour Labour.

  27. 27
    Herr Balls says:

    You are an imposter und vill be shot at dawn, everyone knows ve are NU (Nazi United) Labour, und to think othervise is to make you ein Dumkopf!

  28. 28
    ONS says:

    That’s made-up numbers apparently

  29. 29
    PD77 says:

    I think you’ll find that is both!

  30. 30
    ONS says:

    and you need to factor in the fact (a real fact, I just made it up) that those committing benefit fraud are also likely be avoiding tax

  31. 31
    Sir William Waad says:

    Wouldn’t you get the same result if little Ed had repeated “People do not want or need ‘Labour’ or ‘society’ or the state”?

  32. 32
    streamfisher says:

    “Potential Error”
    Got a bad feeling there is still plenty to come out of the woodwork on the economy,
    GDP figures compiled by the Office for National Statistics for the months January to March due to be released on Wednesday have been delayed over concerns about the reliability of some of the figures in what they call “a very rare move”, now we know why Gordon shoved off to Kirkcaldy and dare not show his face in the Capitol, were Brown and the Badger falsifying the stat’s in the run up to the election?.

  33. 33
    Sir Reginald Titbrain says:

    I doubt if this situation has arisen in the last 6 weeks.

    Benefit fraud is an appropriate activity to ‘close in’ on. The clue can be found in the word ‘fraud’.

    Tax evasion should also be ‘closed in’ on, and I suppose there is an ongoing attempt to do this.

    You don’t by any chance mean ‘avoidance’. do you? This is entirely legal and takes place because accountants are adept at finding loopholes in the law.

    I don’t quite understand the logic of your post, which seems to be akin to saying that its unfair to catch burglars if we cant catch rapists.

  34. 34
    Anonymous says:

    “That’s made-up numbers apparently”

    Equisite grammar.

  35. 35
    Quandry says:

    But would you trust a politician?

  36. 36
    Andrew Efiong says:

    One thing to note is that they dare not criticise Brown. The day they accept Emperor Brown had no clothes is the day they are ready to plan for the future.

    Until then they’re stuck. Ed Milliband would be comedy gold as Labour bossman. Not as good as Abbott or Balls, but almost.

  37. 37
    AnythingButScotland says:

    Hear hear.

    Repatriate the boring whiners too. Frankie Boyle can stay though. He sounds as though he’s had about enough of them as I have.

  38. 38
    Mong Zoo says:

    The US has pulled the draw bridge up,the euro currencies are fucked.

  39. 39
    Mr Plum says:

    Thought the most common phrase was ‘ Its not fair’ when Labour are talking about Tory cuts, they are beginning to sound more like spoiled posh kids that have had a cut in their pocket money with not a care for the reasons why.

  40. 40
    Sir Reginald Titbrain says:

    Trying again to thwart the moderator.

    I doubt if this situation has arisen in the last 6 weeks.

    Benefit fraud is an appropriate activity to ‘close in’ on. The clue can be found in the word ‘fraud’.

    Tax evasion should also be ‘closed in’ on, and I suppose there is an ongoing attempt to do this.

    You don’t by any chance mean ‘avoidance’. do you? This is entirely legal and takes place because accountants are adept at finding loopholes in the law.

    I don’t quite understand the logic of your post, which seems to be akin to saying that its unfair to catch burglars if we can’t catch conmen.

  41. 41
    Anonymous says:

    Ashcroft can go to hell.

  42. 42
    Gloriana says:

    Just watching John Denham[shadow communities & local gov.] & co. on parliament channel. Christ what a bunch of cross eyed tossers they are! No decent arguments, just spite and vitriol. Is this how all Labour flunkeys behave? Have they all had labotomies? To add insult to injury, Dennis fucking Skinner is now trying to string a sentence together!They should re-name New Labour ‘Amnesia are Us’.

  43. 43
    Sir William Waad says:

    They just use Cooke’s Variable Constant.

    X = the amount of tax they would like to have (based on woolly-wafty economic predictions nudged up a bit to make the numbers look better).

    T = the tax they actually received (also with a measure of guesswork because they don’t know how much of this year’s unpaid tax will actually be collected)

    X-T = apparent tax shortfall through over-optimistic forecasting, economic downturn, changes in taxpayers’ economic behaviour, legal avoidance or illegal evasion.

    Better give the impression this ‘tax’ is all ‘lost’ through evasion as that shifts the blame from their bad planning to wicked tax evaders.

    Bingo!

  44. 44
    PD77 says:

    Yeah but for Ed to state that you’d need a day without the suffixed day in it.

  45. 45
    Man Walking His Dog says:

    It is very reminiscent of the style of Martin Day. Either Martin has found a new “handle” or the playgroup has a new boy.

  46. 46
    streamfisher says:

    Ed Balls is about as fair as Frank Brunos arse!

  47. 47
    Sir Reginald Titbrain says:

    Nearly as good as the spelling.

  48. 48
    bloke with nadgers says:

    Labour seem to look upon the electorate as turkeys who inexplicably voted for Christmas. They won’t be able to move on until they stop viewing their legacy through rose-tinted testacles.

  49. 49
    ONS says:

    “Them’s made-up numbers” – that better?

  50. 50
    Diane Abbott says:

    I would make a most ireeee Labour leader. Me would bring a pot of rice an’ pea wid me to every PMQs. Bogle-Bogle.

  51. 51
    Rip Van Winkle says:

    Have you seen sterling. Up every day since the Budget.

    As Gormless Gordon once said -‘ the exchange rate is the share price of UK plc’. And I guess Cameron is also to balme for the massive falls in New York, Frankfurt, Paris, Madrid…. Oh, as Gormless also said ‘It started in America’.

  52. 52
    Big Fan of Diane says:

    Diane Abbott is the only candidate giving a truthful account of the Labour position.
    She is the best and most honest candidate on offer and should be the next Labour leader.
    After all, it has been white males who got this country into the terrible position it is in and we should look to America which has a black leader to lead us out of the constant warmongering and economic ruin white men have caused.

  53. 53
    Piss Pot says:

    I agree ‘nadgers’. The whole fucking festering lot of NuLab. have collective amnesia and those who voted Labour are either brain dead or benefit scroungers.

  54. 54
    Mr Plum says:

    It sounds like they same way they work out climate change

  55. 55
    Piss Pot says:

    yea, right big fan [big fanny?]

  56. 56

    Possibly – let me try something….ahem…Hunt, Hunt, Hunt,

  57. 57
    filipinomonkey says:

    Take three progressives, six concensuses, add a touch of hard working families a smidgeon of fairness, three tons of crushed gobbledegook and a ripe banana, mix well and bake at 220 for 3 years.

    Buy a pair of joke shop ears, get the worst haircut money can buy and Hey Presto, you too can be Labour Leader…

  58. 58
    Big Fan of Diane says:

    Shut up you crackerjack and show some respect for the future Prime Minister of this country.

  59. 59

    You’re right Reg.

  60. 60
    Mr Plum says:

    Have you taken a look at African countries lately, mostly run by black men i think

  61. 61
    Smig says:

    For turning up to all of his GCSE exams Martin was rewarded with a seat on the last Variety Club Sunshine Coach out of town.

  62. 62
    Right Back Atcha says:

    Take three progressives, six concensuses, add a touch of hard working families a smidgeon of fairness, three tons of crushed gobbledegook and a ripe banana, mix well and bake at 220 for 3 years.

    Buy a pair of joke shop ears, get the worst haircut money can buy and Hey Presto, you too can be Leader of the Conservative Liberal Democrat Janus coalition…

  63. 63
    Sir Reginald Titbrain says:

    Don’t forget to arrange for the seagull to crap on your fringe.

  64. 64
    Big Fan of Diane GO DIANE YOU CAN WIN THIS THING! says:

    Put in place by white men I think you will find.

  65. 65
    Currency Expert says:

    Correct.
    The Euro is in a downward spiral from which it will not recover.

  66. 66
  67. 67
    Gordon Brown says:

    Mummy! I big boy now! I want be prime ministers again! Please mummy!

  68. 68
    Old Tory says:

    Thank goodness for that, someone else see the difference between deficit and debt. With so many labour supporters around me not understanding the difference I thought I WAS LOSING the plot…!!!

  69. 69
    Mambo number five says:

    Hahahahahahahaha! You’re funny. I kill you last.

  70. 70
    AC1 says:

    Most of the FTSE makes it’s cash abroad so a stronger pound implies lower profits in GBP accounting terms, hence a relative fall.

    Thank me later.

  71. 71
    Sir Reginald Titbrain says:

    Wasn’t having a go at you ONS but Anon with ‘Equisite’.

  72. 72
    AC1 says:

    Everyone in the UK is getting an effective pay rise by having a stronger currency.

  73. 73
    Mike Hunt says:

    A*

  74. 74
    Old Tory says:

    …and to think they had 13 years to “undo” all Fatcher’s heinous crimes, did they?

  75. 75
    Tony B Liar says:

    Being Labour leader made me and Cherie very rich. Thanks, proles.

  76. 76
    Mong Zoo says:

    After statins turned out to do more harm than good you might want to check this out.

    http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanonc/article/PIIS1470-2045%2810%2970106-6/fulltext

  77. 77
    Prince Harry-Hewitt says:

    Oi! Mister! Can I have my Grandad’s uniform back now?

  78. 78
    Infanta of Castile says:

    Unlike Blair who will go there – preferably to the 9th circle

  79. 79
    Anonymous says:

    Yu jesta! A nuh mi fi like it.

  80. 80
    More Tories Please says:

    Another original thought from Labour?

  81. 81
    Dorothy Rowe says:

    It remains that the new labour party, it’s friends and hangers-on are still stuck in the collective delusional state that they have been good for the UK. I cannot fathom out the basis for this claim and whilst it continues it is obvious that new labour will remain on the periphery of political debate and policy making.

    Maybe they should all go into collective therapy for a while as a means of assisting them ‘get real’ and deal with the rather large error in their thinking and their emotions. To remain delusional for too long can seriously damage your health – I mean look what’s happened to Gordon.

  82. 82
    jack c says:

    Yeah but Guido uyou are being a twat. State can be used in mnay different contexts not just to describe “the state”. i.e. the state we are in”, “the state of the nation today” etc etc

  83. 83
    Double Header says:

    Brilliant Tory troll got me against Labour straight off.

  84. 84
    Unsworth says:

    Name them.

  85. 85
    Two Banjoes says:

    Rice an Pea! Now listen up ey lass. That’s vegetable that is, we’ll be having none o’ tha’ round cabinet table.

    Bring patties with lard, and none o’ that foreign muck.

  86. 86

    Who are employing Chinese men to plunder the dump.

  87. 87
    Dum Dums says:

    Or Conservatives who got Libdems

  88. 88
    BBC employee says:

    Leave my fucking pension alone. I get a huge salary so I deserve a huge pension.

  89. 89
    Backwoodsman says:

    Well, after all, they have got their cronies at the bbc to perpetuate the myth, haven’t they. The bbc are just as guilts as labour.

  90. 90
    Piss Pot says:

    Yes Jack, and don’t forget the state of your spelling!

  91. 91
    Hugh Janus says:

    Pension going, huge salary next.

  92. 92
    Michael68000 says:

    Labour are obviously intent on going into a state of total denial for the next five – repeating the mantra –

    “There’s no need for cuts”

    in the hope that come the next election, when there might NOT be a need for any more cuts, people will be stupid enough to believe them.

  93. 93
    Dum Dums says:

    and all those delusional people who voted the thieving MP’s back in.

  94. 94
    Mr Plum says:

    Same as our leader then

  95. 95
    Target Found says:

    Increasing Vat is not a cut.

  96. 96
    John Terry says:

    Er, I’ve just got back from South Africa and I’d like to say, on behalf of a couple of team mates as well, that er, we’re really sorry that we didn’t wear white shorts against Germany the other day. We tried to be like the heroes of 1966 but forgot they wore white shorts. Sorry about that.

  97. 97
    Lord Wayne of Trombone says:

    No mention of goal line technology either.

    Cloud cuckoo land!!!

  98. 98
    Ban the BBC says:

    Starting with jug ears and moving swiftly through the ‘News’ and online departments and then onwards. Nobody will escape. I refuse to pay for your inflated egos. Fuck off.

    You’ve had it coming for years you leftie twats. Fuck you.

  99. 99
    Engineer says:

    Money can’t buy happiness. The best you’ll manage is living with your guilt in comfort.

  100. 100
    Piss Pot says:

    Goes without saying Dum Dums!

  101. 101
    Another Engineer says:

    Need. State. Want. People. Labour. Society.

    I NEED a plasma TV so I WANT LABOUR to enable the STATE to steal it from the productive PEOPLE in SOCIETY and give it to me.

    About right?

  102. 102
    Sarah Twatter says:

    My husband, my weirdo.

  103. 103
    Engineer says:

    Seconded.

  104. 104
    Elmer says:

    what production?

  105. 105
    Piss Pot says:

    You should have worn brown shorts you bastard!

  106. 106

    Yeah – thanks for the English lesson Jack.

  107. 107
    English Viking says:

    Until you factor in inflation, then you’re skint.

  108. 108
    John McCririck says:

    Boobies

  109. 109
    John Bull says:

    I am one of his constituents and sent him an email two months before the general election, all I’ve had is an automated out of office reply and then an excuse from one of his staff. He only comes to Doncaster when he abosolutely has to. He is a first class shitehawk who doesn’t give two fucks about Doncaster.

  110. 110
    That's News says:

    They slam the coalition for their plans and far from offering any alternatives, simply whine

    That’d be why they wanted to lose the election, then?

  111. 111
    maximus says:

    And they cannot criticise McRuin IMO because he is patently unfit to account for his actions to his peers in any context whatever. He would be unable to respond to criticisms in a rational manner. The tacit conspiracy to keep him away from the media, the people, and most of his party exists to obscure this fact. Were it to emerge there would be no option but to remove him from his position as an MP using the means available for precisely such contingencies. It would of course be better for all if he could be persuaded to apply to the Chiltern Hundreds, but that is not a choice he is capable of making. So the charade will continue, and as you observe, the room will continue to fill with elephant dung. It will interesting to see exactly who in the Layber Parteh is first to climb over it in the ambition to be the nu King of the Hill.

  112. 112
    BBC producer says:

    we’ve got a new one underway at the bbc – don’t worry, we’ll keep you warm in the winter

  113. 113
    Jolyon Wagg says:

    You’ll note that ‘children’ and ‘families’ are in tiny words as well which is about right for the labour mongs who did everything they could as slaves to their perverted dogma to ruin both.

  114. 114
    English Viking says:

    X*

  115. 115
    John Bull says:

    Yea look at South Africa – what a roarng success the blacks have made of that along with the ethnic cleansing of the white farmers.

  116. 116
  117. 117
    English Viking says:

    Obama is not black, he is a mulatto.

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  120. 120

    I thought they used voodoo.

  121. 121
    Clare Balding says:

    Steer clear of mine, I’m munching a rug.

    Neighhhhhhhhhhh!

  122. 122
    Head Lizard says:

    post the emails and shame the bastard

  123. 123
    The Coalition says:

    He’s not alone.

  124. 124
    Anonymous says:

    True, but “they” are traitors and can certainly expect, following regime change, to be tortured to death even more painfully than the ConDemns.

  125. 125
    My Other Cars Not A Prius Either says:

    pull youself together mon,yer ma has three ton of soil on her chest!

  126. 126
  127. 127
    Ratsniffer says:

    The labour position is classic socialism: the instant rewriting of history. Orwell called it “Rectification” in 1984, as carried out by the ministry of truth.

    The standard labour “rectified” version is slowly emerging: we had nothing to do with it, we were prudent, it was a global problem, and anyway all the spending was on good things like doctors, teachers and nurses. Any cuts will now mean hospitals closing, babies dying etc etc. They are like narzies claiming they knew nothing of the holocaust..a bunch of mewling, marxist fools who should be hanging their heads in shame instead of jumping through hoops to try to pretend that this abominable mess is not of their making.

  128. 128
    English Viking says:

    It will cut the amount of cash you have left to spend on other things though, by about…mmm, let me see.. 2.5%?

  129. 129
    Another Engineer says:

    I doubt he’d ever been to Doncaster before attempting to become the candidate.

    Do you think he’d fit in at Bentley Working Mens Club?

  130. 130
    Tea Chair says:

    Correct 1 cubic yard of earth weighs 1 ton.

  131. 131

    Well they’ve got to wash all that coke and snot off the notes haven’t they.

  132. 132
    Put the knofe in deep and twist it. says:

    Good idea you could then tell him they are on here being read by the rest of the media.

  133. 133
    Spliff Merchant says:

    Diane Abbott is still angry at Brillo.

  134. 134
    Spank Sinatra says:

    You may also wish to thank poor growth figures from China as well as the USA and indeed the ECB expecting all the money they lent 12 months ago as a way of supporting their liquidity to be repaid within the next few days. I’ll reserve my thanks if that’s ok for the time being. The notion that a ‘single issue’ has any bearing on currency fluctuations is perhaps just a tad simplistic.

  135. 135
    Anita Doth says:

    Except for the red bits. The bits leftover from when Labour had a majority of English MPs just as they were the majority of the cabinet under Brown.

  136. 136
    Sir Willaim Waad says:

    The NHS employs over 600,000 non-medical staff to support (or hinder) 800,000 medics. Now tell me that there is no scope for cuts without endangering front-line services.

    http://www.ic.nhs.uk/webfiles/publications/workforce/nhsstaff9909/Non_Medical_Staff_2009_Detailed_Results.pdf

  137. 137
    PaXO says:

    Learn those spongers in London who get more than the national average spending to live within their means.

  138. 138
    'kinell says:

    “The tacit conspiracy to keep him away from the media, the people, and most of his party exists to obscure this fact. ”

    I rather like that. Very perceptive. Was thinking we hadn’t heard much from McLunatic recently. I suppose it is deliberate on their part. After all, he needs to be kept to be kept in a padded cell , which is where I suppose he is, probably in the cellar of Jaquie Smith’s sister’s house.

    But then again, the populace needs entertaining . Couldn’t they just let him out and we could all resume jeering and laughing at his lolling facies and ridiculous pronouncements. This new lot are far too serious.

    ‘Aint fair.

  139. 139
    Spank Sinatra says:

    A source would be appreciated – ta etc.

  140. 140
    The Greeks don't want it, The Germans don't want it, nobody wants it says:

    LOL the Euro is as good as finished and the socialist dream up in smoke, welcome to the last few decades of your failed ideology having any lingering relevance on reality quite like praying to Zeus and the pathenon daily or seeing a Dodo bird in these modern times.

  141. 141
    Spank Sinatra says:

    So run that past me again……world currency reserves (last time I looked) were 4% in Sterling and 14% in euros. Rest assured, if euro goes down the swanee, sterling will be chasing it in a race to be first past the u-bend.

  142. 142
    The Greeks don't want it, The Germans don't want it, nobody wants it says:

    Why do you think the sad trolls on here and across the internet have been quick to bury Gordon Brown and Labour? And hate and belittle everyone with their usual smear and slander till they silence tactics when the topic is brought up?

    So they can quickly rewrite history before they are held account for the shit they have once again got us all in.

    Why do you think Gordon Brown was so desperate to win the election and is now hammering out a book in record time?

    Because he was so desperate to not lose control of the hand that writes history and now that he has to the tories and all will be revealed out in the open he is trying to get his sorry excuses and revisionist side of the story to save his skin and stop the crazed lickspittles of socialism from turning on him by creating outs and excuses for himself and socialisms deluded followers to hide behind.

    Except to see plenty of it all blamed on ‘evil’ capitalism and the global markets for why they failed predictably once again. The usual excuses they trot (pun) out when they are found out for the no marx (pun) they are.

    Lying and subverting reality for the continued survival of their warped and failed ideology is in the socialists DNA.

  143. 143
    Cathy Jamieson MSP says:

    There is no scope for cuts.

  144. 144
    South of the M4 says:

    Did you actually put your shorts on? Sorry, didn’t see you all game.

  145. 145
    Ratsniffer says:

    Most socialists wept into their “marxism for dummies” books when the berlin wall came down. There will be a repeat performance when the euro goes tits up. The dream is crumbling…

  146. 146
    English Viking says:

    Somebody do us a favour and push her under a train.

    Makin’ all dat noise in me ‘ead iz mashin’ up me nerves man, innit.

  147. 147
    The Greeks don't want it, The Germans don't want it, nobody wants it says:

    Why do you think the sad trolls on here and across the internet have been quick to bury Gordon Brown and Labour? And hate and belittle everyone with their usual smear and slander till they silence tactics when the topic is brought up?

    So they can quickly rewrite history before they are held account for the shit they have once again got us all in.

    They are always quick to find an excuse or shield even human ones to hide behind once the truth comes out, more so because they are too weak to face up and accept the reality that they are FAILURES and always will be.

    Why do you think Gordon Brown was so desperate to win the election and is now hammering out a book in record time?

    Because he was so desperate to not lose control of the hand that writes history and now that he has to the tories and all will be revealed out in the open he is trying to get his sorry excuses and revisionist side of the story to save his skin and stop the crazed lickspittles of socialism from turning on him by creating outs and excuses for himself and socialisms deluded followers to hide behind.

    Except to see plenty of it all blamed on ‘evil’ capitalism and the global m.a.r.k.e.t.s. for why they failed predictably once again. The usual excuses they trot (pun) out when they are found out for the no marx (pun) they are.

    Lying and subverting reality for the continued survival of their warped and failed ideology is in the socialists DNA.

  148. 148
    AC1 says:

    Wrong reasoning.

    Euro = lots of different unaligned economies.
    Sterling = One slightly misaligned economy (due to Gordo).

  149. 149
    Gordon Brown, Saviour of the Universe, Mighty and Exceptional Twat says:

    Voodoo?
    Who do?
    What?
    Use voodoo.
    Whodo?
    What?
    Use voodoo.
    Whodo?
    What?
    Voodoo?
    Who do?
    What?
    Use voodoo.
    Whodo?
    What?
    Use voodoo.
    Whodo?
    What?

    Nursey says I need to rest now.

  150. 150
    Mr Slater's Parrot says:

    K-SKKREEEEEERRKK!!! (ping) DRINK!!! (flutter)

  151. 151
    If you're a Russian spy, hello. I'm a Shepherds Pie says:

    Blair’s already made a visit to Hell.
    You can tell by the colour of his skin and the mad staring eyes.

  152. 152
    PhantomFlanFlingerofOldLondonTown says:

    surely, with all those scalpels…..???

  153. 153
    Pour me says:

    HP or Heinz?

  154. 154
    The Greeks don't want it, The Germans don't want it, nobody wants it says:

    The qoute:

    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

    Is the perfect definition of the socialist, they just cannot accept the failure of their ideology where ever it is tried time and time again.

    Even when they try and change how they implement it…the end result always ends up the same way…..failure;

    Such as Tony Blairs ‘third way’

    Chinas combined with capitalism on steroids is slowly falling to democracy.

    Cubas attempt at it will die out with Castro and his brother this century.

    Venezuela is running out of oil money and looking more and more like a joke compared to it’s upcoming economic powerhouse neighbour Brazil

    Mugabes days are numbered and even the ANC will not be able to prop up the joke of socialism that blights Zimbabwe once he goes.

    Russia is pro capitalist now etc. etc. every country that has and will implement/ implemented socialism eventually dismisses it permantely after finally realising the failure of a ideology it is.

  155. 155
    South of the M4 says:

    Inevitable. I had a private sector ‘final salary’ pension but the conditions were changed 5 years ago in light of changing events. Cannot change past benefits so those with the longest service, who were the last to understand why, were the least affected. Whilst lamenting the lower value of the eventual pension, and the need to pay more toward it, almost everybody understood why. The public sector must now make that same transition. Dinosaur union bosses who object may condemn their members to a fate worse than losing a bit of pension.

  156. 156
    You crack me up says:

    I take it that the latter has not been bleached?

  157. 157
    Anita Flabbergast says:

    U-bend if you want to, this ladies not for bending

  158. 158
    Keith the Vazaline Tsar says:

    How much would I cubic yard of earth weigh on Uranus?
    Pharrrrr pharrrrrrrr

  159. 159
    Spliff Merchant says:

    She be one crazy blaaahdclaaat! I bet she make a spicy pot of rice and pea.

  160. 160
    Granny smith says:

    Spot on.

  161. 161
    Reap what you sow says:

    Employing? Forced labour camps filled with Chinese prisoners. No jobs for Africans, no money spent in the local economies, Chinese are almost looting the continents resources. We pile in the aid but get no benefit, we have talked with forked tongue for too long, Africa would rather trust the yellow man.

  162. 162
    Whigga says:

    Labour are losers.

  163. 163
    Cleggybollocks says:

    Think Logic Liberty not doing too well

  164. 164
    Old fashioned and feeling pretty smug says:

    With as much warning as we have had to prepare for this inevitable labour fuck-up the VAT rise will have little impact on my finances

  165. 165
    Herr E. Knackers says:

    My New Labour candidate told me that England was definitely going to win the World Cup in 2010. Was that just another pre-election lie?

    Missing words: Hoon, taxi, Southampton shag-pad, flipping, sister’s house

  166. 166
    Common Porpoise says:

    I feckin’ hate Miliband and those bleedin’ bananas don’t I?

  167. 167
    Rendition, torture & war apologist David Miliband says:

    O/T Cameron wants enquiry into torture allegations. I’m going to give him chinese burns if this affects my leadership chances. Alan Johnson is going to kick him in the goolies, while Ed farts in his face.

  168. 168
    ONS says:

    Sir Reg – yup. Was trying to be sarcastic to Anon – wasted.

  169. 169
    50 Calibre says:

    He’s still in the check-out queue at Morrisons in Dunfermline. He doesn’t understand the procedure for getting out. It’s too simple for him.

  170. 170
    50 Calibre says:

    You would think that with England being the only country on the planet that doesn’t have its own legislature an English Parliament would be top of the agenda for all English people. But no! That tells you all you need to know about the lethargic state of England. They are right in the firing line and don’t seem interested that they being shafted almost continuously by the left leaning Scots and Welsh who actually have their own parliaments. Stormont cannot really be in this equation because it never was, never will be and should be part of Eire…

    endof

  171. 171
    Park it in sterling says:

    Money tsunami rolling round the world looking for a beach,,Sterling will do.

  172. 172
  173. 173
    Park it in sterling says:

    Do you know how much it adds to a Bentley

  174. 174
    Tessa Tickles says:

    Yes, but those new voters will have been held back at school by the 20 kids in the class who didn’t speak English. Those new voters will be struggling to get a decent wage because millions of immigrants are suppressing wages. Those new voters will struggle to find decent affordable housing because Labour’s immigration policy stuffed immigrants – at the expense of the indigenous – into the few homes available.

    Labour’s anti-British-worker immigration policy will hang around Labour’s neck like a millstone for generations.

  175. 175
    Park it in sterling says:

    true ,but methinks a nightmare will follow,an inflation one.

  176. 176
    Tessa Tickles says:

    Nah. 15 years ago, a DVD player cost £1,000. Today they’re what? £17?

    Mobile phone calls in 1995: 50p per minute. Today? 8p (ASDA mobile, payG).

    A 486SX laptop (33mHz), 4MB RAM, 4096-colour screen, no network, no modem, no CD-player, 120MB HDD, Windows 3.1. 1995? About £3,500. Today, something 1,000 times more powerful? £320.

    Inflation? What inflation?

  177. 177
    Park it in sterling says:

    then your in debt

  178. 178
    Bankers says:

    there is no banking fraud anyone understands but us,I shall award myself a bonus for that.

  179. 179
    Anonymous says:

    Ah, I actually cancelled my Conservative Party membership and abstained from voting in May for that very reason. And my local Conservative MP scraped through with barely a 1,300 vote majority. Yes, Simon Kirby, I’m talking about you.

    I hate Labour with a passion but I won’t vote Conservative until they give us an English parliament.

  180. 180
    Demon says:

    that’s me inside him

  181. 181
    The Jeremy Whine show is the biggest crock of shit on Radio 2 says:

    Did Jeremy Whine say, “naaaarg, Kylie from a bedsit in Haringey has texted to say she loves you, David. Naaarg, before you respond, Dave, naaaaarg, here’s a song by naaaaarrg Alison Moyet. Be naaaarg right back.”

  182. 182
    English Viking says:

    @P i i s,

    If I was in debt, inflation is great, it means I get paid more and more and owe relatively less and less.

    @T T

    Why was my father able to buy a house, a car, have children, go on holiday, feed and clothe everybody, with my mother as a housewife, on a wage earned as the gate-keeper at a power station, when my son cannot afford to get a mortgage on a crappy house on the salary of a professional, if there is no inflation?

    Perhaps your apparent obsession with cheap Chinese trinkets have hidden the truth from you?

  183. 183
    Socialist retards need to pay attention says:

    Ken Livingstone (Tory bastard or what?) used to moan like fuck that Londoners were financially raped by the rest of the country. They pay their council taxes and Whhooooosh! Off the money goes to Manchester or Scotland.

    Stupid Tory Ken Livingston.

  184. 184
    English Viking says:

    Wrong. It will increase the price of almost everything by 2.5%. It really is that simple.

    So long as you never actually spend any of the money that you have, you’re safe (so long as inflation doesn’t eat your savings, which it will.

    Affected, Sir, you most certainly are.

  185. 185
    stun says:

    Bread 2005 49p
    Bread 2010 £1.10 (buy two for £2 at Sainsbury’s)

    Kingsmill / Warburtons….Not the shite own brand stuff

    The success of the Chinese in reducing costs of semiconductors whilst keeping their working population poor – and committing suicide in the case of Apple products – bears no relation to the cost of living over here

  186. 186
    Poor Bill says:

    Well.

    The Druids would never write anything down. Now I know why.

    What is the point of hours of work writing some complex medical information down, if the prolls and half wits like me don’t understand a word.

    May as well just tell the lads in the know, next time your down the club.

  187. 187
    The Kapo Brothers says:

    We had to go along with it. It was all we could do at the time. Yes people were tortured and killed but,,,,,,,, Our careers were at stake, we just had to survive till a change of leadership.

  188. 188
    Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

    Don’t you mean “Hey Prescott – you fat, sweaty, pig-ignorant Hunt”

  189. 189
    Bub says:

    At some point these people will wake up and realise it’s not a shower they’ve been in! I just find the constant carping on about ‘too deep’ cutting too early and affecting the poorest, they need to be standing in front of a mirror and asking why is this happening, why are these horrible people dealing with the deficit? Oh yeah, us! Living on borrowed money, ideas and time.

  190. 190
    Anonymous says:

    Do they (beeb)care about spewing bilge er No…No matter how dreadful they are (Liebour)and regardless of the damage they have caused the beeb will always shill for them.Thats why the coalition must introduce new broadcasters as the beeb has too much of an advantage (£3.5 Billion of public money) and broadcasting news both nationally and regionally.If the coalition are to have any chance of winning the next ( or as I sincerly hope the Libs become the Official Opposition) election then the beebs power needs needs balancing out.

  191. 191
    Anonymous says:

    Guido, I don’t suppose you have seen/heard /found at the bottom of a drawer the MP for Kirkaldy?
    I am a little anxious that he has neither condoned nor condemned any of these sterling candidates for his old job.

  192. 192
    Nixon in China says:

    His father was a Marxist and he was groomed by Gordon Brown, what do you expect !

  193. 193
    Nixon in China says:

    It always ends up with Famine and Firing Squads.

  194. 194
    Mr A Cole says:

    Youve gotta laf !

  195. 195
    Nixon in China says:

    Not when its being said by the son of a Marxist !

  196. 196
    Nixon in China says:

    Thats because by and large they are posh kids who have had a cut in their pocket money ( salaries)

  197. 197
    Nixon in China says:

    Why the hell do you expect the Tories to deliver and English Parliament ? Theres a clue in the fact they are called The conservative and UNIONIST party. So why on Earth would you want to vote for them at all ?

  198. 198
    Blue Lady says:

    It’s amazing isn’t it – the only party hated outside England are the party of the Union. Labour has almost destroyed the Union with it’s anti-Englishness. We only want to be treated the same as the rest of the UK and yet we are denied our own Parliament. England is predominately Tory and yet we have had to suffer a Labour Government led by Scots and now a Coalition even though the Tories have a 62 seat majority in England. The Lib Dems will never allow an English Parliament as they have lots of Scottish MPs. Does anyone know how to get a petition started on the Downing St website. If we could get a few hundred thousand signatures, maybe someone might start of take notice.

  199. 199
    Society = Parasites vs Producers says:

    And stealing an extra £140 billion to create more palaces and sinecures for status-obsessed parasites will help ‘the economy’ how, exactly?


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