Liam’s Allegiance
Defence Secretary Liam Fox is today meeting with his US counterpart Robert Gates. No doubt the continued military relationship in Afghanistan and the wider world will be top if the agenda. Given what we learnt over the weekend about Fox’s choice of Special Adviser – former US Army captain Luke Coffey is causing no end of security headaches in the MOD given his intimate connections to U.S. spooks – is there any need for the meeting at all?
Coffey hasn’t been given full security clearance and probably won’t be. At a time when defence spending and the role of the MOD will be coming under intense scrutiny, is it really appropriate to have a foreign citizen, let alone one with ties to the U.S. intelligence services, thumbing through “U.K. Eyes Only” documents passing over his boss’s desk? Do the American’s already know what Liam will say at the meeting?
General ‘Buck’ Turgidson. He’s the man for the job.
Tally Hoon!
All NeoCons are Twats.
Yes it is appropriate.
The US and UK have an exceptional intelligence sharing relationship. There really is not much more for that chap to uncover.
by ‘relationship’ you mean the relationship a poodle has to it’s master
no thanks
keep your pathetic subserviant attitude
Actually, no. There’s quite a heap of stuff which the Yanks are very carefully keeping to themselves.
Liam Fox is a CIA stooge.
I trust the yanks far more than the Europeans…..
Neither the Americans nor the Europeans are trustworthy.
We should widen our gaze.
It was probably the CIA blew the BP rig,and the way Obuma is we should fuck all yanks off pronto.
Time for Fox to get his orders on how many more British soldiers to send to their death for US interests.
and Israel’s interests with regard to Iran
Well it’s lucky we already know Iran’s interests with the rest of the world; sumbit to Islam or die.
Fuck off and live in Somalia and see if we give a fuck
Harsh. But fair.
Fuck off yourself, you shit for brains pearly king god bothering twat
Take the Love – you do seem to need it -
Why shouldn’t evil Iran be wiped off the face of the planet?
Why shouldn’t the evil USA be wiped off the face of the planet?
Family guy?
if it ever kicks off forward base UK will be wiped off the map,
London muslim has a point there, after all Iran is the worlds leading democracy recently emerging from the most fair and democratic election in the history of the universe.
Iranian religious police are the fairest and most kind in the world and never raped and tortured their activist captives to make them confess their crimes against humanity. The Iranian revolutionary guard never killed hundreds of unarmed protesters many of them young people by gunning them down in cold blood did they?
Iran is a wonderful happy place of perfect justice, so perfect in fact that they can catch interrogate try and execute criminals in a couple of days, hows that for efficient policing eh?
If there was a war with Iran we know which side our Muslim from London would take, he is a super patriot ready to take up arms against the nations enemies, trouble is the nation he will defend will be Iran and the nation he will attack is the UK!
Last time I checked Israel was an ally, can we say the same thing about the ‘Jolly Jack’ kidnapping, prisoner raping, adulterer stoning,opposition murdering, vote rigging, Iraq insurgent and Taliban supporting, missile supplying, Hezbollah creating fcukwits that London Muslim apparently has such sympathy for. It is indeed a sad day when your support for a country is entirely dependent on its religion and not its policies, or perhaps these actions are the type of behaviour which the pretendy moderate really espouses, contrary to his professions in his blog……Tosser!
True true true!
There are now millions of enemies of the UK in place and ready to stab the UK in the back and betray the nation that took them in and gave them so much. All the opportunities and the chance of a decent life away from some of the worst nations in the world and when it comes to the crunch they will spit in our faces and support our enemies, the word Quisling just aint gonna cover it.
The sooner the war kicks off and we repatriate the Bearded Wonder’s martyrs brigade, the the better.
No racist or religious offence intended.
This bloke has obviously been ‘inserted’ by Langley to keep an eye on any potential leakage of info to our members of the “Religion of Peace”!
Special relationship – I think not
Isn’t that what Gordon and Sarah had?
Not the same
Nobody got fucked in that relationship
+1000
Gordon Brown… Charlie Wheelan.. Its Charlie Brown!
“Charlie Brown is an example of “the great American un-success story” in that he fails in almost everything he does.”
Too often you think of these things too late. Liam Byrne as the funny looking round headed kid. Harpic as the wa wa wa teacher.
But must resist. Must move on. Don’t want to end up like John McDonnell doing Thatcher jokes 20 years after she quit. That’s real Les Dennis territory.
Special relationship
Isn’t that what Gordon and Sarah had?
Sarah has now moved on and having a special relationship with her girlfriend in Eastbourne.
Are you telling me there is not one ex British Army captain (or higher), that has intimate knowledge of the queens forces, floating around somewhere who would be able to advise Mr Fox?
Disgusting.
Afraid not.
They are all on active duty, on disability, left the forces and working part time in the security industry or buried.
The really good ones were in the SAS etc etc and the last government made sure that the military High Command buried them in training jobs or such mundane activities.
Fox needs to get on his bike and find these experts who have upset their “masters”, and use them effectively.
Frankly do we really need an old trougher like Fox at all, would he be better placed behind bars? Is it not the case he would probably sell us all down the river for 30 pieces of silver…
Telegraph March 10th 2010: In a blow to David Cameron, who has attempted to draw a line under the expenses scandal, Mr Fox’s lengthy battle to avoid repaying over claims for mortgage interest was thrown out by the high court judge appointed to hear challenges against the audit of Commons allowances by Sir Thomas Legg.
Mr Fox had increased the loan on his London second home in order to pay for decorating work and to fund his main constituency home, and breached the rules by claiming for the higher interest payments.
So much for D Cameron cleaning up Politics…..
Seems the reward for looting the public purse is a place in government!
I am the heir to Blair
The UK is just an off-shoot of the US military.
All the software we buy to run “intelligence” departments is effectively mandated by the US or used first by US departments.
In the UK, we are suckling the teat that is access to US intelligence……. it is like a drug…….. I suspect giving a US citizen access will be little skin off the MOD’s noses.
Of course, a British citizen would never get the same access in return. But then the US is not hooked on the drug of British Intel.
Thats the price you pay for losing against the Nazis and begging the bigger boys for help.
You become their bitches.
Err….. Actually Uncle Sam kept well away from any actual fighting for 2 years, flogging us obsolescent warships at extortionate prices. A handful of Yanks came over and got stuck in as private citizens, and very grateful we were, especially the ladies. Immediately after Pearl Harbour, yet another example of. “Ready, aye, Ready” from the USN., Winny declared war on the Japs, thereby forcing Uncle Sam out of his woodshed.
yeah well, they never want to turn up late to a war these days do they?
Think you should say Uncle Sam may have kept his army/airforce away from actual fighting but the American Navy was at an unofficial war footing, can’t remember how many ships the lost but the USS Kearny DD-432 was torpedoed 17th October 1941 and limped into Reykjvik after escorting a convoy.
We have all the access to US intelligence we need – that autistic feller that Nick likes so much just hacks into the CIA with a Spectrum 48k
He must of found something bloody important (or the septics think he did) for them to be so keen to lock him up for life.
He didn’t discover anything, he just vandalised the system the US Navy uses to organise supplies for its ships. He deleted hundreds of user accounts, doing about $700k worth of damage. As you do, when harmlessly ‘looking for UFO evidence’
Hey we need US tactical technology – just look what Union Carbide achieved in minutes in Bhopal – awesome. Just think what they could do if unleashed in Leicester for a few hours:)
You mean the script-kiddie ‘SOLO’ who only discovered that he was autistic after realising how much shit he was in?
all the software the fucking CIA stole via the Uk operating systems
This is bollocks – The ‘special relationship’ is only special because of how one sided it is.
Gates and Coffey are going to fuck Fox over. You wait, this is going to go tits up.
Fox will be out-foxed.
Not difficult, Fox isn’t the brightest tool in the box and, like many Dr’s, takes his own importance very seriously. Suspect he only got the job to stop him pissing into the tent.
True about Drs, and knowing very well a person whose father is also A Dr I can tell you that most of them couldnt find their own arse with both hands
My chums dad is a respected Prof of cardiology, she was spending time as an intern studying radiology during her holidays, daddy turns up examines an x ray and solemnly pronounces “hmmm bad fracture of the shoulder”
Only to be informed by his daughter
“Its an ankle”
Best to stay away from them
You boys are really insecure, aren’t you? What happened? You had great plans to do PhDs and force the proles to call you Doctor but you ended up with Thirds? Nah. It’s more likely you never even made it to university in the first place.
Well, I’m sorry for you. I’m sorry that life didn’t work out for you and that now you’re bitter and resentful against people with superior qualifications. I hope my pity will keep you warm at night.
AHAHA
NO
I have two good A levels (from a time when they meant something)
I needed nothing more for my chosen career, but Drs do tend to be pompous
To give credit to my friend and her father they both say that apart from cutting things off, sewing things up or handing out anti biotics they are best avoided
My mothers GP said the same
So you spent three years doing your PhD supervisor’s work for him and in return you got 5,000 quid a year, a piece of paper and a picture of you in a gown wearing a floppy hat..
Jolly good.
Does your mum have the picture on the mantelpiece? She does? Oh that is nice.
True .my GP listens then flicks through Mims and gives a script.
I hear Derek Draper has a PHD*.
*PHD also stands for Post Homicidal Depression
So much for leaving your grain of sand on the beach of knowledge only for a dog to come along and crap on it.
So your a DR then?
Liam Fox has no balls he just does as he is told by his CIA handler.
If he had any bollocks he would not have a CIA agent running his office.
and there in a nutshell you have it.
And there in a nutshell you have UK foreign policy.
Substitute ‘Liam Fox’ for HMG and ‘CIA handler’ for the EU and you have UK’s domestic policy.
Pathetic really.
Yep, although if we’re really, really good they might grant us the same status as Puerto Rico.
Of course, Emperor Rumpy’s team is putting it about a lot these days. How long before DC and his mates are told – diplomatically – that the USA prefers to deal with the representatives of heads of state rather than provincial underlings?
This is not a such a problem. The Americans have had people working in MOD buildings (including the DIA in one of the most highly restricted areas) for years and they can more or less wonder around as a UK person would. It’s part of the Quadripartite pact.
Velly good.we can wander all around US installation’s at will,even get all US workers sent home too while we do it
We have the US dock’s in our control
I have always presumed such meetings are simply for media to report, and for the little people to see reported. I long ago envisioned the game of GLOBOPOLY, virtually played by senior statesmen, with advantage conferred by GDP rating, nukes etc.
Does not seem very special relationship to me with Obama stoking up anti-british sentiment over this oil spillage. US only supportive when it suits then – cant be trusted – never could be
BP = 33 dead dolphins and 187 dead turtles. Union Carbide = 25,000 dead Indians and another 100,000 seriously disabled.
and some really fat Hunts are going to lose weight,done em a favour if you ask me.
A THIEVING INCOMPETENT TIT.
TIME TO JOIN LAWS.
this is bollocks Guido
There is no such thing as “Defence vetting” – the author doesnt even understand what DV means. Tells you a lot on the validity of the story.
As for the UKEO issue – there is a case for some UKEO material, it is increasingly unusual to see it used outside of some very specific areas. It has a place, but much as with the US NOFORN issue, its use in the past owed as much to lazy staffing rather than a real need to be UKEO. Outside the J2 / J3 / J5 / J6 world, I can’t think of many areas where UKEO needs to be used.
hattip Jim30 on Arrse
TOTAL BOLLOCKS.
Duncan, do you actually know what J2/J3 etc means? (I never got further than G2/G3 myself.)
Quack
Um, I’m a bit out of date, but I’m not sure this is bollocks. And many posting on arsse wouldn’t have a clue.
In English, please.
Go on suckle me for all you can big boy
tit
How does he pronounce nuclear?
Unclear?
Newkiller.
Probably pronounces ‘skeleton’ as ‘skellington’.
I fucking hate that.
Whats wrong with it
He doesn’t happen to have dual US/Israeli citizenship?
What the fuck is a yank doing advising a British Secretary of Defence?
Did General Sir Mike Jackson tell Whitehall to fuck right off when asked?
When you think of the huge stalinist and ex commie collective just booted out of office who had access to all of our secrets why should one US special advisor be a problem?
At least he is probably batting on our side which is more than you could say for the last lot.
The commies are still there. Churning out their EUSSR friendly policies, and fucking the little people over.
We found a few of them in the 60′s. Some tricks always work though. If you’re going to let “them” find three bombs, always be sure to have planted five.
Jackson was Blair’s bitch. He was a pathetic preening incompetent who was more interested in having surgery to remove the bags under his eyes than in ensuring that British soldiers had adequate kit.
Find some random vagrant on the street and I guarantee he’ll be more effective, more honest and more interested in the good of the service than Mike Jackson ever could be.
Incompetent enough to rise through the ranks of 1Para, Command 39Infantry Brigade, and reveal that Piers Morgan was a complete jug of tepid monkeyspunk.
For the record, you will find that Jackson had his eye surgery AFTER stepping down as Chief of the General Staff.
Anonymous gobshite; dismissed.
Maybe, but he stood by and let Nu Scum disband the Black Watch.
Unbeleivable.
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can
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began
It is the case of every man, in every port around
You first give in your statement, and then they’ll
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A few old raggedy line of gear, and a couple of
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To see what trouble a man has got, he has to tell them
so
Be careful b’ys, don’t tell no lies when you goes on
the dole
Now the winter is over, and spring will soon be here
You see them with their fires all in, a tanning up
their gear
Painting up their motorboats, their dories too,
likewise
They’re at it in the morning, before the sun do rise
The man who got the money, b’ys, you know he is all
right
He’s got the best to eat and drink, tobacco in his
pipe
But the day will come for him to die, be laid down in
some hole
And then he’ll be no better off than the poor man on
the dole
Your guitar’s out of tune.
Not THE Billy Bragg, surely?
Coffey’s CIA links will probably come in very handy when we finally plan our exit strategy from Afghanistan – we’ll have to deal with the drug lords when handing over power, and who better to assist than their mates in the CIA?
So long as it helps us get our troops home sooner than we otherwise would, this isn’t as bad an arrangement as people are trying to paint it – let’s concentrate on the ends and use whatever means we have to hand.
Mr Coffey has dual citizenship
Any guesses as to where other than the USA?
Here is a clue
The name of the other country starts with an I and ends with an L
He has our best interests at heart
Hello TaT, female moniker this time I see. Have you had the op? Male or Female you’re still a mad twat.
Oh dear montgomery.
Missed by a mile.
You post a comment and then accuse someone else of doing so you anti-semite.
Grow a pair of balls you coward.
How many tats make a twat?, I suppose that would depend on how big a twat you want to make of yourself.
Guido, not sure how best to contact you, but your your site is being partially blocked by my firm’s software to protect me from “Malicious web sites”!
And you thought that this was a friendly pink fluffy site?
Its meant to be malicious you bell end
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The site’s harmless, but some of the denizens are apt to give you a nasty little rash.
Quite often there are viruses stuck to it. saw one fairly recently. (perhaps over a week ago though).
To Administrator.
Trojan discovered, backdoor worm.
MANDELSPIN.
Self replicating virus that corrupts data and operates in the background, controlling the core program.
Any ideas from the help desk?
Yeah, I get that with some of Guido’s ads. I can still read the blog and comments, which is all that really matters.
I’m sure I just gave you a pound
as I went to the bank.
A pound of shit in the shemale’s grubby little palm I hope.
Pathetic loon
Quite
Lets fire some phosphorous at some children
Its good for them
Tinfoil hat alert
Knew there had to be something about him I liked.
Liam Fox is a filthy neo-con, the fires with him!
God told me to invade Iraq.
So I’m not a raving loon and neither is my small dog Terry Blair.
think you mean Terr Leahy don’tcha?
I thought you called me Yo Blair ???
Are these fake lecture tours anything like John Prescott’s fake lecture tours to China to be paid for a subject he knows less than nothing about? And his missus’ fake autobiography [fat advance - no sales].
Is that where Brown is? Waiting by the phone for all the money laundering offers to roll in?
Hahahahaha. He’ll have a long wait. He’s alienated every fucker. The yanks. The banks. His old boss. His old cabinet. All his MPs. Every fucker he ever came into contact with.
Maybe his mum still loves him.
Oh well, he only totally and utterly screwed the country up, so that’s alright then.
the MoD are totally unaccountable to the British public. They are exempt from noise and nuisance laws and can basically blow your house up and get away with it – they may send an apology if they can get the right address. So it’s no surprise to find an American involved as a special advisor. This is not a democratic country and interests other than our own are paramount.
Sorry Guido, but if it pi55es of the French/EU it must be a good thing? Maybe they are negotiating the next tranche for Echelon…?
If it pisses off the French/EU then I can think of no higher endorsement.
What about Arminka Helic – Bosnian FCO Spad?
Liam Fox with an american ex army spad in charge of the MoD.
When I think what we had in there before , aintbustinagut and his smear team of kevan and rammell ,character assassinating anyone in the Armed Forces who dare to publicly tell the truth about weapons shortages, and lining their own pockets for all they were worth, I know which team I prefer.
Look we’re in charge at the MOD now and Liam Fox does exactly what we in the Pentagon tell him. He is one of our prized assets hence he has been assigned a CIA controller and handler who will take care of him. We need you Limey losers to do the dirty spadework on our behalf in Afghanistan on the low grade jobs that are not worth risking our own GI’s on. This folks is called the Special Relationship and as the senior partner it is of course rigged heavily in our favour. When America says “jump” Cameron sends out for a trampoline. Just the way we like it.
it’s uncle Tom at the moment
I uploaded a YouTube video — Launching the Movement for Change http://youtu.be/ssDpUDdk4UQ?a
talking about allegiance
I see Rafa Benitez is lined up for the Inter Milan job. Now Benitez is a pretty crap manager. The only trophies Liverpool won with him were the left overs from previous regimes. yet here he is looking certain to land a new job.
My point is that this doesn’t easily happen for ordinary men and women does it? You don’t just walk into another job, even have one lined up for you – it’s the exception rather than rule. Funny how the elites always have someone to look out for them, to do their bidding and to make things alright, yes?
Not the case for ordinary folks, no way. Another 600 thrown on the dole by Northern Rock. Just whee are the jobs for ordinary folk coming from. 6 million unemployed won’t go into 300,000 jobs and keep everyone happy now will it?
Allegiances eh, only for the elites…..
He was fucken Yozzer Hughes given a job
Gordon’s great spin ever time unemployment went up was that there are 300,000 vacancies (there are always about 300,000 vacancies due to market turnover), insulting to people who genuinely want (and need) employment and a prime example of his manipulation of statistics on a par with his 0% increase rubbish, you mention Northern Rock, it was his policies that led to the inevitable collapse in the financial institutions, but its always the ‘little’ people that carry the can, he and others just walk away quids in as usual.
This mish mash government just keeps on making mistake after mistake
If Fox wants to have gunboat diplomacy and get the Empire back I’m up for it.
A long overdue sight seeing tour of france, would be good for the troops moral, live ammo of course……
Overheard in the end cubicle whilst I was slopping out
Harriet Harman ‘to nominate Diane Abbott in Labour leadership contest’
good take on BP and Obama
http://www.larouchepac.com/lpactv?nid=14766
makes it like we run the US eh?
Class – so the most powerful nation on earth (by their own say so), lets one little part British oil company own them? Give me a break.
The real reason BP is being hammered is because it’s easier for the septics to blame a “rogue” British company for the issue rather than the USA’s chronic addiction to oil so they can all keep driving their 8 litre engined cars which get 15 miles to the gallon with no thought for where the fuel for those cars comes from.
Simple test: if it had been a septic company in this position, do you think this whole issue would be a complete non-news story?
does anybody know how to get the cack stains from my cotton gusset?
Enquire of a member of the coalition
I also have a cack encrusted gusset.
giz a toffee Stoggers
Who says I don’t have a sense of humour ?
A man takes his Rotteweiller to the vet.
‘My dog is cross-eyed, is there anything you can do for him?’
‘Well,’ said the vet, ‘let’s have a look at him’
So he picks the dog up and examines his eyes, then he checks his teeth.
Finally, he says, ‘I’m going to have to put him down.’
‘What? Because he’s cross-eyed?’
‘No, because he’s really heavy’
I have found an owl pellet lodged under my knacker sack
Why is my comment awaiting moderation again?, a paragraph in standard English with no expletives and nothing in it which could remotely be considered libellous, ad hominim or extreme and at the same time I see many other comments which some might consider to be in bad taste at the least posted. Its getting beyond a joke!, whats the point of trying to reply to someone and then having to wait an hour and a half for clearance?, you cant even re-submit it because nobody’s got a clue what triggers your silly software off. FFS get it sorted, information highway my arse.
Lol!
Guido is on the information cycle path and is suffering from a wobbly rim.
and on an Oirish country lane pissed
Exactly – seconded, Pidgeon post.
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The special relationship means that British troops die for the US, it means that American oil companies can cause oil spill disasters and the British company can take the blame and clear it all up and pay the bills.
Its a question of give and take, the yanks take and the Brits take it up the arse and swallow.
When Britain needs support like over the Falklands the US can spit in our faces and support our enemies trying to steal our land away, thanks Clinton and Obama, thanks for that.
The USA is one of those friends who see us as a suplicant to be used and abused it seems, God help us if we really need the USAs help in the future, its gonna be ‘see ya around’.
Not quite true love.
When we went down south, who was covering our back in Europe ?
When they got kicked out of the Gulf after shooting down an airliner full of passengers. Who went in and covered for them and took the flack ?
When they were not doing too well in Vietnam. Who was winning two wars, both major cold war victories, on the quite ? One in Oman, one in Borneo.
Who has let who down by letting the French have to much say in the New Euro Army ?
Our French firends have been caught twice, betraying our boys when at war.
Pro-Serb officers in the Bulkans and anti-nato (ie Pro-Euro army) officers over Iraq.
This Coffey chap is a strapping-looking fellow isn’t he? I wonder if Liam and he ever share more than just intelligence?
The US is usually very poor with HumInt, but to get an agent into the MoD, so high up, is. A real coup. A word of which liam is said to be fond…
Fox is no good.