June 1st, 2010

Will Hutton’s High Pay Hypocrisy

Miserably left-wing Will Hutton was chosen last week by the government to conduct a review into excessive pay. Fair play you may think for the former Observer editor who has consistently argued that the government should tack to the left, but as is so often the way with the Guardian reading metropolitian elite, he doesn’t quite practice what he preaches. Although unpaid for his new government advisory role, Hutton still writes for the Observer and Guardian. He is also on the exec  of The Work Foundation

Though consistently talking about best financial practice his own charitable think-tank’s accounts are some 32 days late. But don’t mind that, the old accounts revealed far greater hypocrisy. Look at the staff pay table. As head honcho and mouth of the organisation you know which end of that list Hutton is on.

If he wants to see fairer pay will he be giving up the £180,000-a-year he takes home from the charity?


279 Comments

  1. 1

    “Miserable left-wing”? Surely the tautology of all tautologies.

    • 15
      Up sh1t creek says:

      Oh leave him alone, just watch his genius in the recent Newsnight outing, watch the entire clip, but especially from 5m36s onwards.

      According to Will, the UK has LOTS of private debt, but the UK is well placed with government debt. YOU IDIOT WILL!!!!

      What savers in the UK face is as follows….. If my neighbour runs up credit card debts, that’s his problem not mine. If as New Labour did, the government runs up massive (vote buying) debts that the taxpayer has to pay off, that’s EVERYONE’S problem.

      Why is is so hard for these Commies to understand basic maths?

      • 43
        AC1 says:

        The UK has lots of private debt because socialists taxed consumption. Then to get more tax they regulated vast amounts of debt into the economy.

      • 54
        Anonymous says:

        A preview of this evening’s Newsnight
        ————————————-

        Paxman: So why are you paying your permanent secretary more than the PM?

        Secretary of State: How about you, Paxo, you greedy pig? How much are you snouting from the trough?

        Paxman: Er.. That’s not the question.

        SoS: Is it more than the PM?

        Paxo: Shut up, you shit.

        SoS: Is it more than the permanent secretary to the treasury?

        Paxo: I’m the biggest fucking cheese, fuck you.

        SoS: Is it more than the chief of the defence staff? More than the head of Network Rail?

        Paxo: Fuck your mother. No one can sneer like I do.

        SoS: Come on, is it more or less than a million?

        SoS: Let me ask the question in another way. What multiple of the the PM’s salary do you get?

        Paxo: I’m going to reach down your throat and tear out your heart in a minute.

        SoS: Am I going to have to ask the same question 12 times? What pay cut are you gonna take this year? Is it 50 percent, 70% or 80?

        • 93
          Lord Wayne of Trombone says:

          these people are all labour-wanknuts

          they should get 60k and a wankmag of choice

          Lord W

          (loverly sunset at y new house here in Provence)

      • 109
        Anonymous says:

        Brilliant clip. Taleb hits the nail on the head. It is all about *Economic Morality*.

        This is something that Will Hutton, and big state Keynians/lefties simple do not understand.

        I.e. Theft is wrong
        and transferring private sector risk, debt and mistakes onto the public balance sheet for competent hardworking taxpayers (inc my kids in the future) to pay off is wrong.
        Printing money and practising Mugabe economcs is also total madness.

        We should be worried about Will Hutton. Make him take a pay cut or else sack him from his government role after exposing such hypocrasy!

        • 168
          AC1 says:

          > Printing money and practising Mugabe economcs is also total madness.

          The amount of money and the amount of time exchanged in the economy should however match. So money volume does need to rise over time due to population growth and efficiency growth. This entails some printing.

          If we’d have let the banks collapse we could have then safely printed money to bail out depositors (and not shareholders or bondholders) without risk of inflation.

          • Quids Out says:

            Which is another reason why mutuals are worth having and being in …unless caught like the Edinburgh based Standard Life with two many shares which they had to sell at the bottom of the market and be de-mutualised by carpet baggers as a result of a financial regulation dreamed up in the competitor London City State legislative ALEO at its Whitehall whorehouse and agreed by the Westminster pimp.

            I’ve no reason to think your second sentence should not be framed as a proposal and put up at the No10 (for No11) e-petion site. If you do so AC1, please let us know so that those among us who wish to can sign-up.

          • Quids Out says:

            Please cast your second sentence as a proposal and put it up on the No10 website for the attention of No11, then let us know so that those of us who would prefer no more bank bailouts could sign-up to it.

    • 51
      stilyagi_air_corps says:

      “The Work Foundation is a not-for-profit organisation whose independence, expertise and networks give us a strong platform for engagement.

      We are the leading independent authority on work and its future. ”

      Show us your hands, burzhui! Tsk, tsk. Stick ‘em in the mix, Mr Pump, I believe we can use this batch for ballast.

    • 97
      Maximus says:

      More pedos in Scotland than in BP.

      • 239
        Tessa Tickles says:

        Oh, Scotland, Scotland, what does the world think of thee; for releasing mass-murderer (270 lives) Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi, on compassionate grounds, 10 months’ ago, because he had 3 months to live.

    • 123
      South of the M4 says:

      Isn’t “the tautology of all tautologies.”, the the tautology of all tautologies. Just a thought. In fact, a thought, thought.

    • 191
      Maggies Drawers says:

      BP is full of jockoes, I wouldn’t call it an “English” company.

      • 242
        Saor Alba says:

        And i wouldn’t call anything regulated by the UK safe either.

        @ Tessa Tickles 1:21 am
        With a lot more compassion than it held for the UK Gov’s shabby dealings for re-entry by BP into Libyan oil extraction whilst dumping the al-Megrahi problem of prisoner release on the Sco Gov only to see it backfire on his release on compassionate grounds.
        As to al-Megrahi’s conviction, i’m still amazed a “not proven” verdict was not passed, especially as that would have kept up the pressure to identify, extradite and try the perpetrators.

        • 263
          Charles Norrie says:

          Of course, in reality the Scottish Government, the UK Government and the US Government (sic) are delighted by the decision of the Scots to release Mr Megrahi, and to think they aren’t is posturing.

          The US Government was particularly keen to avoid the second appeal, as the whole of the false conviction of the man could well have come to light.

          For all the evidence to convict him was concocted by the CIA who had been charged by the US Government of blowing up as US plane. Yes? Why?

          Because the US has downed IR-655, and in reply the Iranians demanded revenge ideally 290 bodies.

          The Americans say IR-655 was an accident. The Iranians didn’t believe them and wanted revenge according to the ancient doctrine of qesas. HW Bush saw the point of the Iranian argument and decided to indulge them. Thus Iran and the CIA blew up Pan Am 103

  2. 2
    streamfisher says:

    Charity begins at home.

    • 277
      Sun Tzu says:

      The Work Foundation is not a charity, it is a non-profit organisation.

      Normally these are set up to be able to avoid charging VAT to small clients and individuals and you take all the company profits out as salaries rather than dividends.

      If you look at their list of clients and board members, it appears that their employers are also paying them “consulting fees” via this non-profit company.

  3. 3
    Dack Blog says:

    Has he had a Steven Seagal makeover?

  4. 4
    The confused hypocrite says:

    The left are troughing hypocrites.

  5. 6
    Catflap says:

    Fuck me I have never earned in a year even one third the lowest pay grade in that Charity.
    Maybe I should have thunk about work like they do at the ‘work foundation’ than actually DO fucking work.

    • 20
      Up sh1t creek says:

      It’s hard “work” being asked on to Newsnight and talking b0llocks.

    • 36
      Ted Bundy says:

      Remember those salaries the next time when some professional charity collection scrounger in the street shoves a money box under your nose or demands that you take out a direct debit to the charity to help the poor. Charity has to be one of the best scams going just look at The Smith Institute. Lets have a charity with 90% of the money collected going on running the organisation and 100k salaries with company 7 series BMW’s for the Chief Executive and his board.

      • 46
        BangtoRights says:

        I give to the Sally army and Samaritans the rest can fuck off and rob little old ladies

        • 57
          But it's a charity says:

          And they do.

          Had to intervene in two cases last year where ‘charities’ abused the credulity of old ladies to siphon off inordinate amounts of cash by direct debit.

        • 68
          Taff with a VERY long memory says:

          Sally Army don’t get shit from me.

          Those c/unts refused water to rescuers digging out the victims of the Aberfan disaster unless they could pay.

          On a bitter October night those c/unts refused hot tea to rescuers digging out the victims of the Aberfan disaster unless they could pay.

          As 144 people, most of them children, were dying under millions of tons of spoil, those c/unts made money from water and hot drinks.

          Sally Army don’t get shit from me.

  6. 7
    alan bread says:

    the left are the most venal of the lot, being envious and having very little talent is a nasty, potent mix

  7. 8
    Nick says:

    “Send your kids to state schools, there’s nothing wrong with them you posh toffs! Oh no I send mine to a private school.”

    • 25
      Polly Toynbee says:

      But you ordinary people just don’t understand how difficult it is for important people like me to get the state schools to let my kids have holidays in term time. The flights to my villa in Italy are so expensive during the school holidays.

      Anyway I just had to send two of my kids to private school because Thatcher took away the free milk. How is any parent supposed to be able to afford to buy milk for their kids?

  8. 9
    Monty says:

    Where does this charity get its money from ?

    • 22
      Yer Poor Socialist says:

      Everyone else’s home where charity begins apparently!

    • 33
      Archer Karcher says:

      From you of course. Doncha know it is one of phoney Tony’s third way creatures?

    • 35
      Cocklecarrot says:

      Well that’s one charity that won’t receive my donations! The idea of paying £180,000 to that sanctimonious prig Hutton is too awful even to contemplate.

      • 41
        AC1 says:

        You already have. It’s a fakeCharity mainly funded by extorting money from taxpayers.

        • 144
          stilyagi_air_corps says:

          Nice one, Guido. These parochial media muppets haven’t even realised the game’s up yet. I wouldn’t buy Hutton a tin of cider for a signed samizdat.

  9. 11
    The Ragged Trousered Philanthropist. says:

    The left and fair play are incompatable bedfellows. When has the left ever demonstrated any form of fair play? They are power hungry, self-serving troughers.

  10. 12
    Lizzie says:

    God helps those who help themselves……is there any hope for the England World Cup Team!

    • 29
      concrete pump says:

      Probably not, but on the other hand Palace WILL be playing in the Championship next year.

      Get in!

      • 48
        Catflap says:

        Concrete Pump:
        Come on admit it, you flirted with the idea of who else to support should Palace fold?
        I did :)

        • 60
          concrete pump says:

          Yup, i had images of myself traipsing into Loftus Rd. (Shudder)

          • Catflap says:

            Well thank the lord we have been saved.
            Can’t they just for one season have no fucking drama for Christs sake.

  11. 13
    paul says:

    Guido you mean he was chosen by your tory government to lead a review?

  12. 14
    MI5 says:

    Guido

    Will Hitton represe”nts one of those people who best represents the hypocricy and contradictions of the “social” lelft

    His wife, Jane Atkinson, is a director of a property development company called First Premise based in Richmond upon Thames, which she founded in 1987.

    There is nothing more purely capitalist than a property developer.

    Better that the wife should be one while “one” writes about “social democracy and eqality”.

    He history with the Scott Trust is ambiguous as well.

    So to sum up,

    Mr and Mrs Will Hotton believe in pure personal capitalism and personal welath creation. i.e. getting rich for themselves and their children.

    Nothing very egalitarian about that.

    You speak of his large salaries.

    So he is a pure capitalist running dog as Chairman Mao would have said.

    His “social democracy ios for the birds…or rather for the porr working class sods who believe the drivel he writes…
    sO SHE IS A PURE CAPITALIST

    • 37
      AC1 says:

      I prefer the term Rent-Seeker/Corporatist.

      The Work Foundation is very Orwellian in that it’s main campaigns to punish people based on how well they work!

      Needless to say they are also highly against the most sensible tax of them all, the LVT (as it would wipe out their unearned profits).

      • 74

        “it’s”? Get a grip on those apostrophes, lad.

      • 174

        The Work Foundation – the name is a sure sign of an organization which doesn’t do any.

        • 258
          Hortense Lube-Sachet says:

          Like they all clock in, get their wages docked when they take 30 seconds too long in the crapper and take their tea breaks under a surveillance camera. The “Work Foundation’ – maybe Derren Brown was consulted on this name, which has to be the most artful piece of misdirection.

    • 104
      Maximus says:

      So far left that they’re right rent-seekers. The pair of them.

  13. 16

    If is a funny old world when people like Hutthoon are gobbling up so much cash.

    I am claiming Hutthoon as a new slang word.

    Hutthoon, man who preaches poverty while living it large.

  14. 17
    bergen says:

    I seem to remember that it turned out that his family had a vast buy-to-let empire.

  15. 19
    Charity Shop says:

    Charity! Freeloaders! Charity for oinking pigs.

    • 89
      Old Blue says:

      who donates to these fucking scam charity’s

      • 105
        Angry says:

        Trendy left wing rich people. For them it’s a great weeze- they off-set the charitable donation against their tax and can wax lyrical about how socially-minded they are by giving to charity.

        Only ever give to small local charities where the staff are pure volunteers.

  16. 26
    marcus aurelius says:

    Hutton is an insufferably smug ignoramus. It’s really impossible for me to understand why he gets so much air time. As far as I can see he has not one original idea.

  17. 31
    Anonymous says:

    Typical appointment by Cameron – like minds! Cameron is NoT a Conservative and the sooner Tories realise that the better.

    • 187
      Lady Hamilton's Pussy says:

      Yes, he is. He just thought that he might try to get elected, by not sounding like a swivel-eyed regressive.

      It half worked.

  18. 32
    Jimmy says:

    “Though consistently talking about best financial practice his own charitable think-tank’s accounts are some 32 days late. ”

    That’s nothing. I know of a fake ngo that has been promising monthly accounts for over six months. The name’s on the tip of my tongue…

    • 34
      Anonymous says:

      that`s nothing – some are three years late.

      • 80
        EU must be joking says:

        That’s nothing, some are never gonna be signed off because they’re so fucking crooked.

        • 87
          Gobshite Centre says:

          Below are the Sunlight Centre Quarterly Accounts up to the 1st November 2009. This is in the spirit of openness and transparency. The first link shows all the donations we have recieved up to the 1st November 2009 and the second link shows our Profit and Loss Account up to the 1st November 2009. We will be updating these on a monthly basis from now on.

    • 202

      You should refuse to make any further donations.

      • 249
        Jimmy says:

        What is the world coming to when you can’t trust someone who asks you for money on the internet?

    • 203
      Maggies Drawers says:

      It didn’t say when they’d produce them.

  19. 44
    Anonymous says:

    Cameron`s appointments are a give-away. Andrew MacKay plays rennis with Caroline Spelman – they have mutual midlands `interests – just wait until Cameron gives him a cushy little number, not to mention his wife, the odious Ju;ie Kirkbride. The Cameron government is no different from the Brown one – the `new` politics is finished (thank goodness!)

  20. 45
    I TOLD YOU SO says:

    have you only just realised?

    • 52
      Tories don't exist no more says:

      I told them all as well but half the bunch in here are dozy senile codgers like nell always banging on about that nice man Mr Cameron. He could be personally packing her on a train to a gas chamber and she would still sing his praises.

      • 56
        Anonymous says:

        It is incredible, Cameron will destroy the Tory Party.

        • 69
          brown bread says:

          You and who’s army are gonna get rid of them in the forseeable then?

        • 226
          Tossflap Watch says:

          Like Blair/Brown have destroyed Labour.

          Sell your core supporters down the road to get elected, pretend you are strong on those issues identified by focus groups as your ‘achilles heels’ (Labour: economy and law ‘n’ order. Tories: health/social issues and the Environment), drivel on about ‘stakeholding’/ ‘Big Society’ and once you are in power, forget about what you’ve promised. Make policy announcements that fail to deal with the real problems facing our society, rely on PR/spin and keep taking the cash, knowing full well it will be over a decade before people realise you have only made a very grim situation considerably worse.

          Even a tossflap like me can see what’s actually going on.

      • 63
        nell says:

        ‘that nice man mr cameron’ hmm? I presume you mean in comparison to ‘that nice man gutlessgordon’ or ‘that nice man alastairc’ ?? Because when compared to them and their cronies , he is a decent man.

        Other than that I’m afraid we have to accept that politicians are a breed apart and their judgement of what is right and wrong and honest is far removed from the down to earth judgements the rest of us normal ordinary mortals make.

        • 71
          Dack Blog says:

          Dale Winton is slightly more orange than Peter Hain but they’re both still orange.

          • Can't remember my moniker says:

            One can forgive a man many things but cutting up cricket pitches is not one of them.

        • 73
          Anonymous says:

          very defeatist nell – why do we have to `accept` it.

          • nell says:

            Sorry but once we start believing something better of them and stop watching and monitoring them like hawks they’ll start troughing big time all over again!!

            That’s why we must always accept that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.The last 13 years of labour have proved that beyond any doubt and we should never forget the lesson!!

          • Maximus O. Ptimus says:

            nell, you might feel better if you got the quote right. “Absolute power corrupts absolutely” is correct, and tautological. But the first part is “Power tends to corrupt”, i.e. it allows for more or less, and allows that it is not a God-given certainty that the holding of power will necessarily corrupt. Without the “tends” it would also entail that the Creator is by far the most corrupt thing going.

          • nell says:

            Thanks Maximus.

            Y’know I was not very happy when the coalition came about. But then I got to thinking about it and came to the conclusion that cameron was not going to have absolute power, as corrupt labour have had, because the tory right and the libdem left are going to act as balances and checks.

            I like it!!

          • Anonymous says:

            Nekk yoy really are naieve and silly. If we accept their behaviour they will continue to indulge in it. And Cameron is not a balancing act between two opposing forces. He is on the left and there is no meaningful tory voice in this wrteched coalition. The sooner it fails the better.

          • Maggies Drawers says:

            ..and what? Bring back Labour with Balls at the helm?

  21. 49
    Gizza Job Will says:

    tbf, not all charities are run for the benefit of their employees

    http://society.guardian.co.uk/salarysurvey/table/0,,791702,00.html

    though there are enough of them it might seem.

    • 64
      Ted Bundy says:

      Some nice little earners on that list. What about all the other fringe benefits? Expenses, first class travel, accommodation in 5 star hotels and the company 7 Series BMW.

      • 76
        Anonymous says:

        I knew somebody who worked for a charity. It’s a shrewd business move, I can tell you.

        • 78
          Dack Blog says:

          My mate works for an environment-related ‘charity’ and she tots up more air miles than the rest of us put together.

          • Maggies Drawers says:

            You mean she has a huge carbon footprint as most of these greenies do, jetting around from conference to conference.

  22. 55
    Dave Figgley says:

    Ha ha, son. “Guardian reading metropolitan elite”? You mean those ponces that had a free university education, earn 100k and think sliced bread grows on trees? Wankers.
    I’ll tell you, mate: When the Blarney Stoned Ladies Darts Team get wind of this, that Hutton nonce is going to be swinging in higher circles than, even he, could have imagined.
    Must dash- my anger-boosting therapy starts at 7.30, geezer.

  23. 62
    The Will Hutton Foundation says:

    Charity begins at home mutha fuckas.

  24. 66
    OiOi says:

    Introducing David

    Content Warning*

    Viewing may lead to nausea and in some cases projectile vomit.

    • 72
      blaaaaaarrrgh!!! says:

      Too late , and I haven’t even started it yet.

    • 85
      streamfisher says:

      Satire and parody are dead after that performance, how could you possibly compete?, I’m glad you brought that up (A Hughie Green). A Pebble can make a ripple out in the ocean (Is that you then Rockhead?) or some such tosh. Plinkity plonk, plinkity plonk on the Piano ,a pathetic attempt to conjure up scenes of puppy dogs, new born lambs and cuddly kittens.
      Labour leadership contest is shaping up to be more interesting than the World Cup (given our early exit), Is it meat or the two Veg?.

      • 110
        David Minibanana says:

        Packed full of cliches, soundbites, hackneyed phrases like make a difference, community, vaaaaalues, society, uttered in Blairist estuary English liberally sprinkled with saccharin sweet quotes from Obama and Kennedy.

        Pass me some sick buckets, QUICK !!!!

  25. 75
    I stole £89K from Sith says:

    90% of the Charidee Industry exists for the benefit of those who work there.

    The only charities giving value for money are the small ones. Most are run by capable motivated individuals who take not a penny from the kitty.

    Big Charities=Institutional Theft

    • 91

      Old friend who worked in the game gave it up: she was too upset to see the hard-won donations being spent on contracted out photocopying (employees to lazy to do it for themselves) and taxis. Dissociation of income from expenses, plus the employment of demotivated pointless people whether “third sector” or civils* always leads to the same result.

      *civil “servants”

    • 113
      Some People Do It For Love, Not Money says:

      Also know someone who has had a career as an administrator in “Charidee” for years. Rolling in it. Of course some of the cash does get to help the “clients”, but staff and suppliers have to get paid first of course. Staff ratio to “clients”? About 4:1. Children and animals appear to be the best money spinners – it just pours in, helped by endorsements and appearances from soap actors, sportsmen, politicians and the like.

      • 204
        troffers R U S says:

        the ultimate manifestation of capitalism: a for lots of luvly prophit company with no greedy shareholders to sponge off us. Super.

        • 255
          I stole £89K from Sith says:

          Some years ago I went to Help the Aged after I had seen their ad “£7.50 will restore sight of blind African etc”. Offered them the funds to do 10,000 ops provided I could accompany the team so I could count them in and out.

          Offer rejected. Said it was more complicated than that. Offered to pay an extra £5K to cover admin to arrange trip. Offer rejected.

          • Mrs Higginsbottom says:

            Help the Aged…………they give 8k to a village hall so that 5 well heeled pensioners can get a kitchen installed in it. They never bothered to check where the money was spent or that the need was genuine.

            Could have helped a few blind African children with 8k at £7.50 a time.

            Are you sure your money went to Africa?

      • 228
        Zed says:

        Or that national treasure. Sir Terry Wogan, fleecing huge sums for hosting BBC’s Children in Need for decades.
        Then… once he was outed he declares “I never demanded payment for appearance” then a most charitable act when he hosted the following year and took no payment at all !
        Buy 20, get one free.
        Didn’t see that odious oaf hand back the monies he pocketed out of a children’s charity for decades (or the BBC that WE paid to him) which he earned by relentlessly pleading to millions on the breadline to just hand over a little more of their money as he troughed and troghed and troughed…
        Yes, a national treasure, rise SIR Terrence Wogan.

  26. 79
    Spanner says:

    Too many of these charity scams.time old bill went in with forensic accountants.

  27. 81
    Dack Blog says:

    I was only half (actually probably more like a quarter) watching it but did Snow just (pretty much) tell some Israeli spokesman to fuck off and cut the interview short on C4 news?

    • 90
      revolting peasant. says:

      Yet another Marine killed while on foot patrol in Helmand.
      The policy of making our soldiers walk through minefields in order to reassure the locals is totally unacceptable.
      How many more pointless deaths FFS before we pull the troops out and draw a line under Labour’s war once and for all.
      Enough is enough.

      • 99
        Anonymous says:

        The only thing “we” should be doing over there is burning the poppy fields. Fuck paying them not to grow the stuff.

        What amazes me about that war is that here in the UK Islamic rights come before all else. Yet we send our young people over there to break the back of an Islamic culture. You can wear your burkha in the UK, but we don’t want you to wear it in your own country. Contrary c*nts.

        • 103
          Captain Sensible says:

          What about buying it off them and then burning it, or using it to make medicine?

          It would cost a fraction of trying to interdict it on the way to our local streets.

          • Anonymous says:

            I will give you medicine. But buying it off them? Shall we pay the Taliban for their bullets?

          • Captain Sensible says:

            We’re sending aid fertiliser to them at the moment which has uses other than putting on tomatoes.

            Put it another way: you end up with grateful local farmers who grow the only crap that grows there for which they get regular payment, the poppy juice gets taken into legit custody and the local “middlemen” lose their cash, control and pissed off volunteers. Never mind the benefits down the line round these parts.

            Not ideal, but better than what purports to pass for a strategy at the moment.

          • Billy the Kid says:

            The fertilizer wouldn’t be Ammonium Nitrate would it? And a load of washing machines with very useful timing devices? Or is that Gaza? Am I confused?

            I wonder why the North Korean act of undeclared war which killed 46 sailors has been sidelined by 5 Palestinian protesters getting themselves killed by disobeying orders to heave to?

      • 106
        nell says:

        Why is the MoD not putting more money into robots to detect roadside bombs instead of using our troops as cannon fodder??!!

        Apparently this government is now beginning to ask that question but they are not reacting quickly enough.

        We need to stop our lads doing these foot patrols and we need to stop or lads doing bomb disposal. There are mechanical ways / robots to do these tasks and we need to get that equipment out there!!!

        • 114
          MP's should defuse IED's says:

          why try to defuse the fucking things.Just remote detonate them,or is it a plot to kill the kids

        • 251
          Previously ill disposed says:

          It is.

        • 271
          Quantrill says:

          I understand that IEDs can be remotely detonated by drones. The technology exists but our government refuses to either fund it or use it. Cheaper to kill a few squaddies.
          Troops out, use daisycutters to decimate the poppyfields and leave them to the stone age they so desire.

          • Geoff Wisdom says:

            Drones – yes, good idea. A dozen unemployed chavs walking ahead of an army patrol should do the trick.

      • 240
        Maggies Drawers says:

        I don’t know why they don’t get them horses.

    • 100
      Snow is a lefty knob says:

      He was telling the bemused (and disbelieving) Regev that the Turks were sending a warship with the next “aid shipment”… a claim that he was forced to retract at the end of the news.

    • 245
      Cut Short says:

      It was an excellent exchange i thought – exposing Hutton’s weak arguments albeit needing more airtime for the other side to justify his in greater detail – and so was pissed off by the cutaway to what was scheduled to come next as Snow was instructed in his earpiece.

      It happens far too often for my liking. Less of the rubble fillers and more of the informative would be better. Understand why it happens on advertised channels, but not on public financed ones which should schedule more programmed slot time to be filled if running out of steam by prepared, timeless showings eg light relief selections from YouTube

      • 254
        Bishop worth voting for says:

        Apologies: “other side” = Taleb; “Snow” = Esler.

  28. 95
    HenryV says:

    Charity begins at (your second) home.

    • 108
      Henry the V1 says:

      Arf!

    • 112
      Ronnie Biggs says:

      God helps those that help themselves

      • 130
        A Pedant says:

        You certainly helped yourself, didn’t you? Unfortunately, it was to somebody else’s property. Shame you maimed the train-driver so badly, otherwise your crime might have been rather farcical. As you did, you are lower than scum.

      • 132
        A Pedant says:

        You certainly helped yourself, didn’t you? Unfortunately, it was to somebody else’s property. Shame you maimed the railwayman so badly, otherwise your crime might have been rather farcical. As you did, you are lower than scum.

        • 156
          stilyagi_air_corps says:

          There’s no denying it, though – the man could sing!

        • 183
          Ronnie Biggs says:

          er it was the property of the banks,who are ?thieves or it was the government,who are also thieves too.so who is the worst,ps I never hit the guard.

  29. 96
    Will Hutton says:

    I love work – I can sit and watch it for hours.

  30. 101
    nell says:

    Just a thought. Who funds The Work Foundation??

    Somebody tell me I’m wrong in believing it is us, in a roundabout fashion, the taxpayer!!!

  31. 102
    Mrs B Liar says:

    • 171
      His Reverence Mnsgr. Phoney "£rd-Way" Bliar, emoting and wiv stupid grin says:

      Hi!

      And who is that gorgeous woman?

      Seems like I’ve seen her before somewhere.

      Would you introduce me?

  32. 111
    Head Lizard says:

    I went to my grand daughters school charity night,the guy from the charity giving the pep talk got me curious so when he finished I followed him to see what car he had,a Bentley would you know.Talk about a Bentley director!Oh on a 2010 plate to boot

    • 122
      nell says:

      Every charity takes a percentage out of every £ collected to fund its salaries and HQ etc.

      It always pays to ask what that percentage is before you give your £. If the charity has a swish London HQ, and a number of heart, cancer and kidney charities do, you can expect them to take more of your donated pound to fund the cushy lifestyle of their employees, especially the employees at the top.

    • 164
      Bigot says:

      It (the Big Car) shows you’re successful at filching dosh from innocent well-meaning idiots.

      Exemplar = Phoney Tony.

  33. 115
  34. 116
    Mr Natural says:

    Hutton’s support for raising capital gains tax confirms my belief that those who are in favour of high taxation are either rich enough to employ a good accountant or else don’t have a ha’penny to scratch their arses with.

  35. 117
    The Beast of Clerkenwell says:

    F**** h*** poor old G:u*do only gets £50 for turning up on News night to talk sense and this c*** is on 180k for just one “charity” cock waffle gig?
    How much else does he “earn”?
    Time to investigate the tax affairs of these c unts in some detail

    • 169
      Beaky says:

      fuck me I got 500 for a canabis coffee shop chat in 2003,Guido needs to be a bit more demanding,or get an agent

      • 191
        Half of meths, please, barman says:

        Yep, £50 was the rate in 1976. Guido, you’re being shafted by the BBC. You need an agent, what Beaky says.

        • 208
          Maggies Drawers says:

          At the BBC, the rate increases the more left wing drivel you spout. Toilets Maguire is on a good’un.

  36. 119
    cant hunter says:

    Whilst on the subject of left wing economists; haven’t heard anything from David Blanchflower for over a couple of weeks. Has the BBC lost his number ?

    • 131
      nell says:

      Left wing economists??!

      OMG!! Hasn’t 13years of labour done enough to prove that keynesian economics are rubbish??!!

      • 143
        Trader says:

        Errr Keynesian economics work when you follow the instructions like you are meant to like ‘set money aside in the boom time’ instead of cobbling together your own Frankenstien rules up as you go along like Jonah Mcmong and pretending it’s still Keynesian theory like when he decided to spend everything and more during boom time.

        • 155
          nell says:

          But that’s the problem you see?!

          labour leaders are manipulative and don’t stick by theorist rules!!!

          They are only interested in using theories to persuade the electorate to get themselves into power and then to hell with economic theories and the economy!!!!

        • 186
          AC1 says:

          No it doesn’t. Keynesianism doesn’t even work in the good times or the bad.

          • Fools' Gold says:

            Seriously, what does from top-down when the economy like society is an imperfect aggregate of reality?

          • Fools' Gold says:

            Skip the bit about separating money as a means of exchange which if there is too much of it devalues its use as a store of value, and so compounds the effects of over valuations as an accounting means unless you have a solution to that too!

  37. 121
    Peter Shitchens says:

    If Will drops his pay, I’ll drop my undies and let Harriet Harman damage my cock.

    • 149
      Sigmund Freud says:

      Be careful what you wish for.
      Harpie manifests a most severe case of penis envy.
      If you must, be sure to keep her away from sharp blades.

  38. 123
    A concerned parishioner says:

    I don’t wish to be seen as overtly pedantic but can we show a little greater control of the english language.
    Practice-noun
    Practise-verb
    For the time being I shall not comment on fewer or less.

    • 141
      Drill Sergeant says:

      Might you just shut your pedantic sewer of a gob, and go shit me some Tiffany cufflinks?

      • 195
        Half of meths, please, barman says:

        “Go shit me” is an Americanism. A British drill sergeant would just nut the quixotic bastard.

    • 163
      albacore says:

      A lost cause, I fear, parishioner.
      Where are the apostrophes of yesteryear?
      My despair for the once-proud gerund knows no bounds!

      • 207
        Dack Blog says:

        And what happened to quotation marks? Everyone uses speech marks when quoting (Sky News being the worst offender). It really pisses me off.

        • 248
          Sub Editor says:

          It saves money: you get ‘two’ for the price of “four”, as can be seen in any newspaper.

    • 167
      My Lord Prezza of Scoff, Noo_Lie_Bore Illumination, Lecher, bon Viveur, Raconteur, The Wimmin’s fav, says:

      Speaking cuffly as I do off them it’s important for a man working to clearly be about what he’s speaking otherwise what clue does anyone have I mean Neil Kinnock used us to have him listening for his speech for hours ‘n no-one had a clue ever whot he meant.

      I floated up the Thames once to highlight what floats in the Thames.

      I’m Lord now.

    • 211
      Maggies Drawers says:

      Easy way to remember the difference is to compare them to advice (noun) and advise (verb) which are pronounced differently and so can’t be confused like practice (noun) and practise (verb).

  39. 125
    A Pedant says:

    Might we also accord the word “English” a capital “E” in this context?

  40. 127
    Marie Antoinette says:

    The Work Foundation’s premises

    http://www.theworkfoundation.com/aboutus/ourlocation.aspx

    A not-for-profit organisation apparently. Well not at those salaries, it wont be !!

  41. 128
    The Oil Leak says:

    slick how I fucked BP’s share price eh?

    • 136
      nell says:

      It’s OK slimy mandy is going to take over control of BP quite soon.

      He’ll fit in very well with a mega oil slick won’t he??!!

      • 146
        Anonymous Misogynist says:

        nell.. I think your ‘barking’ up the wrong rig..!

        • 153
          Anonymous Misogynist says:

          or even you’re

          • My Other Cars Not A Prius Either says:

            B P are a major trade union sponsor,can you remember any strike bar the 2000 fuel blockade that impacted on B P . Poster in security/reception at warwick uni says it all (tuc archive) I will not spoil it for you,go and look for yourself.
            Unless you have shares in B P have no sympathy,they are communist bastards like Lord browne,fu$k em

      • 160
        An oleagenous organ grinder, having lost his monkey says:

        I’ll climb any pole to get a decent income.

        Being a true-blue socialist I got expensive tastes.

        In I?

    • 181
      Hurricane X says:

      I’m just getting some steam up out in the middle of the Atlantic,expect me to come rolling in at the weekend with a vengeance,see how BP or nukes go then.Go long on Bio

  42. 133
    Jesus says:

    OMG! The dirty evil filthy homo shit in government are going to get away with it. The dirty evil filthy subhuman animal, David Laws, is going to get away with it and get a front seat back on the gravy-train in a few weeks time.

    We should burn dirty homo filth. All filthy homo shit need to be killed. Filthy fucking homo shit filth are liars and thieves and evil child-abusers. Dirty homo filth should have acid thrown in their faces and be set on fire. Homos are dirty evil subhuman filth.

    • 137
      A Pedant says:

      Tolerance is such a wonderful thing, isn’t it?

      • 176
        Homosexyboy says:

        I can’t help thinking he was laughing his tits off when he wrote that. I certainly was reading it.

    • 138
      A Trick Cyclist says:

      I am guessing you have some sort of issues with homosexuality. Get some therapy.

      • 150
        nell says:

        I suspect he has issues with sense, balance and a decent education.

        labour over the last 13 years has not developed an educational system that encourages our kids to think in depth or laterally.

        • 199
          My Other Cars Not A Prius Either says:

          deliberately

        • 201
          Half of meths, please, barman says:

          Nell, I think he might have issued that message from Above. He would have attended Bethlehem Junior Mixed Infants, AD 5-11, then either King Herod Grammar or the local secondary mod. Teaching was pretty fair in either place, as his subsequent career will attest.

      • 165
        stilyagi_air_corps says:

        It’s a condition called pathologoia… side-effect of ultramarginalist politics. Hits a surprisingly large amount of left-wing Guardian readers too, for some reason – all that time at work being PC , comes out, alone, in the evening…

        Leave him. He’ll be ranting about J**s and kulaks next. It was Free-masons last week, should have read it…

        • 176
          Slinger says:

          Aye and theres a cure called leadinyer

        • 189
          J R "Bob" Dobbs says:

          Death to Fanatics!

        • 194
          Seen it many times says:

          That is so fucking true!!!!!! It is amazing how racist and bigotted the left wingers become when you get them on their own out of work hours. They turn it on and off like a switch. They are a nasty bunch of hypocrites that lot are.

    • 220

      You must learn to turn the other bum cheek

  43. 139
    Anonymous says:

    Charity …

    … begins at home.

    PS Where does Hutton get his funds from?

    • 145
      Nothing new under the sun says:

      The tax payer either directly or indirectly from the legion of quangoes, NGOs, Charities who buy a business solutions consultancy package.

      Where such revolutionary, groundbreaking concepts such as:

      “Leadership plays a key role in both performance of organisations and their culture and therefore is a key driver of good work and organisational well being.

      Our experience shows that an effective leadership team is the foundation of future success. Leaders must be able to deliver results. We work with decision makers to help them engage and motivate their people, inspiring their trust and commitment.”

      ie repackaging the obvious and claiming it as insight for a couple of days of expensive team building and schmoozing (on expenses and tax deductible)

      • 214
        Bvllsh1t Baffles Brains says:

        The Work Foundation has a platitude problem.

        I just ran some of those platitudinous statements through my Bvllshit Filter and they scored 99/100 across the board. If the ‘charidee’ closed down tomorrow no-one would be any the worse off except of course Mr. Hutton and his acolytes.

    • 147
      nell says:

      Yes precisely!!!

      Who is funding this ‘quango’ and making the decision to pay him a top of the range salary and also to fund a top of the range set of multi storey offices??!!

      You can bet it’s us!!!

    • 157
      Bonfire the QUANGOs, Repeal EUSSR Legislation, Destroy Noo_Lie_Bore bullshit and PC Bollocks says:

      A prime example of another useless blabbing hypocritical hoon latched onto the great socialist tit.

      ENOUGH!!!!

      DO SOMETHING FFS!!!

  44. 151
    Anonymous says:

    What greedy cnut. How can he sleep knowing he takes so much from a charity ?
    These fucking lefties make stealing sweets from kids seem reasonable.

    • 257
      albacore says:

      The Archbish of Cant is hot gospelling for the salvation of that well-known charity, Refugee & Migrant Justice,
      The actual figures in its Annual Report for 2009 are modestly concise but I noticed this plaintive cry in the accompanying, copious notes:
      “As cuts start to take effect, our lawyers will be receiving some £50 an hour for the
      work they do from legal aid, sometimes less. This is very little considering the benefits
      that good legal advice and representation can bring.”
      http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10208666.stm

  45. 158
    Peter Mandelson says:

    Oooooooooooooh Poppets

    Who wants to sit on the Queens knee?

  46. 180
    Homeboy Willy says:

    Charity begins at my umpteen home property portfolio.

    • 209
      That's News says:

      That much pay, Mr Hutton? Hell. That’s some example of charity, isn’t it?

  47. 197
    Trev says:

    Oh … bog off guido.

    i grow tired of all this and i believe i grew tired of all the expenses nit picking before the election.

    Why not pay our public figures in rodents teeth and feed them on gruel.
    As you say he is not being paid for his public work.

    it is to all our benefit if the poorer can earn more money – I look forward to seeing suggestions as to how this can be done.
    ‘EARN’ being the operative word since if workers are productive and producing meaningful and valuable things then they deserve to earn more.

    I for one am happy to reserve my criticisms of Hutton (who In have no real regard for) until he speaks and produces. If its useful – fine. if its bollocks then lets put criticism where its deserved.

    Increasingly Guido you merely conduct vendettas- and talk utter piss and crap.

  48. 222
    50 Calibre says:

    Where’s that shit Brown?

  49. 223
    Del Boy says:

    So Will Hutton is trousering bundles churning out fanciful crap by the bucket load.
    Quelle Surprise, as we say in Peckham.

  50. 227
    Border Terrier says:

    I always laugh when Will is described as an economist cos he ain’t – sociology degree from Bristol …. but he employs some nice totty at the Work Foundation so can’t be as daft as he sounds.

  51. 229
    allan akhbar says:

    will mutton……..why has he any influence at all?

    1. he is a boring c unt
    2. he always talks bollocks.
    3.he wants everyone to bail out his wifes property portfolio.

    gotta love those socialists!

  52. 233
    dodgy dave (recovering socioholic) says:

    Will Hutton’s a dork. Come to think of it, so is Roger Bootle. It’s tough being an economist these days!

  53. 237
    Anonymous says:

    Hutton is a supporter of the dirty j-e-w-s.

    Here are the dirty j-e-w-s celebrating slaughtering people trying to bring humanitarian aid to the Gaza death camp.

    • 238
      Anonymous says:

      wops

      • 265
        Keep Turkey Secular says:

        Vote for Kilicdaroglu and the CHP.

        Throw out Erdogan and the AKP Fascists.

        Erdogan..the Turkish Mussolini instrumentalising hate for his religious bigot party

    • 260
      Take a step back and look says:

      The Gaza ‘Death camp’ is in what demographers call a demographic trap. The term applies to a country whose population is growing rapidly due to a high birth rate and low death rate.

      This usually happens when a developing country moves through the demographic transition of becoming developed. During the 3rd stage of demographic transition (called the late transition stage), quality of health care has improved enough that death rates fall into the “accepted” range, which is usually well below 10 per 1000 people. However, birth rates remain high, and the country becomes “trapped” in a self-perpetuating cycle.

      Some ‘Death Camp’.

      Gaza is a baby factory ruled by Islamo-fascists.

  54. 256

    Whoa, cool it guys. Can I simply remind you of the following incontrovertible facts?
    1 – I wrote the State We’re In, which galvanised liberal left thinking and led to the formation of the greatest PARTY that humanity hast ever known – Neue Arbeit.
    2 – I brilliantly predicted that the UK would be in a State if it took my advice.
    3 – Irwin Steltzer has allegedly called me a genius
    Those are the facts guys. Ignore them at your peril.

  55. 259
    Will you please listen? says:

    Will Hutton
    Will Straw
    Will E Wonker
    Will code for food
    Will they ever learn?

    • 262
      albacore says:

      “”What matters it how far we go?” his scaly friend replied.
      “There is another shore, you know, upon the other side.
      The further off from England the nearer is to France —
      Then turn not pale, beloved snail, but come and join the dance.
      Will you, won’t you, will you, won’t you, will you join the dance?
      Will you, won’t you, will you, won’t you, won’t you joint the dance?”

  56. 261
    Harriet Harman says:

    Don’t forget PMQ’s today at 3-00 o’clock.

    I will humiliate the Old Etonian today and he just won’t be able to give a straight answer.

    See below for my leading wisecrack

    According to BBC news, PM Cameron faces questions debut.

    Sources say one question already lined up is “Why does yours look like it’s made from plastic?”

    • 264
      Oh dear summer is here says:

      Harriet shut the cackle and go and make a cup of tea.

      • 266
        Chavastic Audience in Public Gallery says:

        an, smarten yerself up gal…don’t for chrissakes wear that bloody giraffe skin coat !!!

  57. 267
    David Laws says:

    Who says I don’t have a fucking sense of humour ?

    Experts predict that an African team will come away with the World Cup trophy. Therefore security has been increased.

  58. 272
    Matthew Parris says:

    Shouldn’t Hutton’s tax status be probed?

  59. 273
    Johnny Norfolk says:

    This man is a complete plonker. No wonder we are in such a mess if he is advising people in government.



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