Who is James Lundie?
Now revealed publicly as David Laws boyfriend, James Lundie is a director at spin-merchants Edelman, he is a former adviser to both Charles Kennedy and Paddy Ashdown when they were respectively leaders of the Liberal Democrats. Laws says that “James and I are intensely private people … We made the decision to keep our relationship private and believed that was our right. Clearly that cannot now remain the case.”
It was widely known in Westminster that David Laws was gay, some years ago he dared a tabloid paper to justify threatening to out him, he didn’t make an issue of his sexuality. Laws should have known better than to rip the taxpayer off for rent paid to his boyfriend, it doesn’t just look bad, it is bad. In the coming tough times on public spending it will not play well that he milked the expenses system. Using the “we wanted our privacy” line doesn’t really wash when it comes to public money.
UPDATE : Punters have raised the probability of Laws being the first Cabinet member to resign from 6% to 15% this morning. Guido thinks he will probably survive because he is too important to the coalition…
UPDATE : The probability of Laws exiting the cabinet has been rising steadily all morning, punters are now giving him a 30% chance of going. Declaration of interest – Guido just put £500 on him surviving.
Annoying for the simple reason he seems to be the one member of the cabinet with the know-how to get us out of the economic mess.
He’s finished.
Not necessarily. The gay lobby is so strong nowadays that he has a good chance of getting away with it. When the Opposition get stuck in, he can always quote “five-bellies” and her BBC sister. Laws is too important for the Coalition to ditch.
No fucker is THAT important
I suspect his rent boy had him by the balls. Literally
Mr Laws’s claims for a series of other expenses are also now expected to come under scrutiny. Between 2004 and 2008, he submitted regular claims, in rounded figures, for service and maintenance, repairs, utilities and other items.
He typically claimed between £50 and £150 a month for utilities and £100 to £200 for maintenance. Receipts were not provided to back up the claims.
However, in April 2008, the rules were changed and MPs had to provide receipts for any claims above £25. Mr Laws’s expense claims dropped sharply. For example, he claimed only £37 a month for utilities.
Fleet Street will be all over this, as will the Blogosphere
Yup its started
The Sun: “Mr Laws has been hugely impressive since entering the Cabinet earlier this month.”
But how is he going to attend cabinet meetings even if he goes to an open prison?
People claiming that the reaction to Laws is homophobia…that’s rubbish!….it’s obviously Second-home-ophobia
Kevin Davis said…
I fought David at the lastelection.
His whole campaign did not focus on policies but how he was whiter than white in expenses and had the lowest claims of any MP in Somerset. Every piece of literatur and direct mail he sent out focused on this.
I know I can be accused of having an axe to grind but this coalition cannot afford to have him remain in it.
It is sad because like many I have been very impressed by him over the past few weeks.
Here’s Dave talking, as we now know, absolute bollocks
What a shame that a gay ‘Liberal Democrat’ MP (of all the parties), whose party champions civil rights as a core principal, could not put his money where his mouth is.
How can one ‘bang on’ about these issues, when you don’t have the balls to put into practice what you preach. On the one hand you publicly state it’s ok to be gay but in private you hide your sexuality- what a great message that sends out.
He’d be better off jumping ship to the tories.
This isn’t a party political point, but isn’t it strange how some of the most gung-ho and strict ministers turn out to be in the closet?. We had Portillo, more recently New Labour had a minister who resigned last June and then left Parliament in May, and seems to spend his time hanging around Soho and now the Laws case. There is also another ex-welfare minister who reminds you of kennteh Williams without the jokes. if you see what I mean……
There is a spectrum of human sexuality from extreme male to extreme female.
Verbal dexterity is both a “female” trait and an essential for politicians, it therefore follows that the political scene (and the broadcasting media), has more than its “Fair” share of male gays.
Compare the monosllyabic Clint Eastwood with the average politician, and think of George Bush who was verbally awkward and sometimes struggled to find the right words. Bush’s problem may be partly down to the fact is that he isn’t gay; not that he’s a complete clot.
Moley: Not sure that that argument applies. What about Gormless?
Can someone put together a list of the “Gays” in the Government so we know?
I suspect the connections between gays in politics and media are also deep in the church and probably in pedo world too.God we are in a fucking evil time.
Bob asked for somebody to put together a list of gays in government… it’s already been done.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LGBT_politicians_from_the_United_Kingdom
Moley – I’d agree with everything you say if you were to replace “verbal dexterity” with what you really mean, Lying
No, I don’t think you quite understand yet…
David Laws – “My first decision in the Treasury – axing my chauffeur dr++ven black Jaguar car, to save over £110,000 per year. How could I justify this spending while there is so much to cut?”
He’s finished. Done. Gone.
Dead meat stinks after a while, especially when it’s warm…
Mrs Dale is doing his best to defend the indefensible .
Sorry…new politics n all that.
He is an exepnses fiddler. He must go.
Clegg..sack him now. Today, without further ado.
as usual
You miss the point being gay has nothing to do with it, he took taxpayers money to pay towards something he claims was entirely private. How he thought he could get away with it, and then tell everyone what things he would take away for hard working people I do not know.
They never learn whatever the colour of their politics or the choice of partner!
Yes the gay lobby is so strong that most gay people, like Mr Laws, are too scared to come out to the public or even there own families. Try being gay for a day and you’ll see how unsuccessful the so-called all-powerful gay lobby has been.
The Telegraph is playing a long game over this expenses thingy. They would have had the dirt on laws for a year now and have waited until the best time to use it.
There must be MPs a plenty dreading the day that they too are un-redacted.
every Lib Dem in that Cabinet now has a very big target on their back
it didn’t matter before because they were only Lib Dems but now the Telegraph will use their expenses file as a basis to hunt down everything that escaped the public notice because of the Lib Dems previous obscurity
The Torygraph has had this info for a long time & saw fit to not publish it at the time of their main exposure of the “troughers”.
Why ? And how much more are they holding back for future use?
And,what is their motive?
research and sales
the why is massive scoops like today’s which will boost their circulation again so they no doubt kept one or two back for when Cameron and his Cabinet came to power, just to keep their circulation healthy
the how is the intensive research needed to confirm every piece of a story before commiting to print
the expenses disk was just a mass of raw data
it still needed interpreting and verifying and now it is the basis for launching investigations not just for reprinting headline claims
there was an awful lot of VERY interesting stuff hidden in those uncensored raw claims but it needs investigating details of the who what how why and where of the names and adresses and money and other info on hundreds of thousands of individual claims for items
that takes time and it doesn’t always lead to a story
but if they get a tip…
Lose Laws or lose electorate.act fast or be fucked
How do you protect your privacy by claiming expenses you are not entitled to???? No, what we have here is Laws getting caught with his fingers in the till, then shamelessly throwing in the “this is because I’m gay” line to try deflect from the crime (for that is what it is). The gay community should be up in arms at this. And when the feck will the MPs learn!?
And yes, he has to go (which is a pity as I think he was doing all right in his post but MP’s are subject to the same rules as us mere citizens, get caught get fired).
get caught get re elected
No one is indispensable. FULL STOP.
I was relatively calm about this until I heard Paddy Ashdown presenting the most Ridiculous arguments why his man had done no wrong and this was a personal tragedy which we should be sorry for.
Yep, Ashdown has become a liability.
bring back the drunk
Well Paddy Pantsdown should know, Adulterous bastard that he was. No better than soon to be ennobled Lord TwoShags.
Personally i’m not massively bothered about the rental situation. Seems a bit of a technicality over the wording of some sections.
However it would appear that he was paying all the utilities of the property on MPs expenses, then when confronted with demand of receipts the bill magically dropped to a quarter? That would be a bit unfortunate, troughing scum.
we seem to be skirting the obvious
He’s a fucking millionaire, so of course he needed to fiddle his expenses.
The Penguin
Same old “worn out” excuses. Just like Laws’ arse I suppose.
which only goes to show how poor Paddy Pants Downs morals are. Laws is a thief.
One of my favourites “The cemeteries are full of indispensable people”
Like Alan Turin? We wouldn’t have won WWII without him.
I’m going to buck the trend here and say that if Laws pays back the money (with interest) he ought to stay in post. It’s been a very long time since we’ve had someone in the Treasury with a double first from Cambridge and a successful career in the City behind him — beats a Mickey Mouse PhD in History any time.
Cameron must put country first. laws is doing a good job (an excellent job) and has turned himself in for an investigation. Leave it at that until the the investigation reports.
true, he IS a troughing c’unt
and wavy Davy is putting him first because Clegg has told him ‘or else’
He turned himself in but not until he knew that he was about to get exposed. No remorse there. Crucify him.
Queen and Country,
I agree from the bottom of my stony, cold, frozen, unashamedly heterosexual, slightly right of centre Tory heart. I pray that Laws weathers the storm, sticks two expressive fingers up at the Daily and Sunday Togglegrif and carries on doing a great job and that the pathetic, new man, cheap Blair impression that we actually have as a Prime Minister actually has the cojones to let him. Capital Gains Tax indeed, can’t a man make a million or two over lunch sans tax nowadays?
My MP is gay but she has a Labrador that she loves so she can’t be all that bad, can she?
There again I agree. The Torygraph is running a stop the CGT campaign — not beyond the imagination to think they’ll discredit anyone involved with the proposed measures.
I bet the cops are looking for you for other things
That’s shocking!
David Laws was praised by the Telegraph at 10:26 yesterday evening
David Laws profile: Lib Dem in Tory clothing
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/7780643/David-Laws-profile-Lib-Dem-in-Tory-clothing.html
“the MP for Yeovil, who is charged with implementing what David Cameron sees as his most important plan: cutting the £156 billion budget deficit.”
Don’t MI5 keep tabs on who is blackmailing who in political circles now?
AFAIK no, but they would expect them to vet all ministers to see if they could be blackmailed.
too many poofters in MI5 but makes it easy for us
So you didn’t find my joke note funny?
You’ll find this even less funny now I’ve had “the boys” diss the dirt on you to the Telegraph.
“Mr Laws’s partner is James Lundie, who is thought to work for a lobbying firm”
Thought to? This leaves the gate open to even more scandal depending on what Mr Lundie has been lobbying for.
He lobby’s for what his boy friend can supply,shimple innit
the ‘know how’ to embezzle money from the tax payer is not a plus for anyone in government
Just another liberal homosexual, following the party tradition of homosexuality
Biscotte
So, as he cuts jobs and prospects for the poor he’s getting shit on his bell-end from some worthless bastard in a lobbying company AND having the fucking nerve to fiddle his expenses. And you, YOU, Guido, you twat, would have been all over a Labour politician like flies around Lundies aresehole – instead – you have a bet. Big boy, well done. Sunlight my fucking crack – you’re all the fucking same. There are times when it’s easy to conclude that the prime motivation of your ‘we’re watching you’ rage is that you’re not on the inside yourself. If this blog has ANY pretence to stand by the line it has taken over the years it should now campaign long and hard to GET LAWS OUT.
are you talking to me?
Confined to Labour Uncut for 5 years Billy Two Rivers. That should make you see sense, can’t figure out why Guido didn’t put a couple of grand down, winnin’s is tax free innit?
Your name entertains me. Is that one front river and one rear river? Or is that a river at both ends, so logo- matches dia- in metaphorical symmetry?
He has to go. If the DCNC Combo don’t act now, the next five years, well how deep are your pockets?
Oh yes of course, its his vast experience in government.
A little ditty, based on Guns & Roses “Paradise City” for poor old David Laws:
Take me down to the parasite city
With expenses forms,
And my balls get shitty
Take me home (Free cabs to please take me home)
Was an urchin workin’ on Tufton street
Had a hard on that’s tough to beat
I’m your charity case
So I’ll get me some cock to eat
I’ll pay you at submission time
Keep takin’ till the end of time.
Rags to riches
Or so they say
You gotta
Keep pushin’ taxpayers and shame
You know it’s, it’s all a gamble
When it’s just a game
You treat it like a capitol crime
Everybody’ doin’ their time
CHORUS x2
Straddled over a chair of the city’s first member
Why I’m here, I can’t quite remember
The party leader say’s it’s hazardous to theive
I’d have another cigarette
But I can’t see
Tell me that you’re gonna believe
CHORUS x2
So I’ll say I’m gay x4
My arse has been been torn apart
Now he’s a court jester
With a broken heart
He said turn me around
And take me back to the start
I must be losing my mind
“Are you blind?!”
I’ve seen it all a mllion times
CHORUS x4
I want to go
I want to know
Free cabs to please take me home
I want to see
Oh, look at me
Free cabs to please take me home
Take me down to the parliament city
Where the bills are green
And my cock gets shitty
Take me home (Free cabs to please take me home)
Take me down to the parasite city
Where the bogs ain’t clean
And my pubes get nitty
Free cabs to please take me home
Take me down
Oh yeah
Beat me down
Free cabs to please take me home
I want to see
Oh, look at me
Free cabs to please take me home
I want to see
Boy, I’m gonna be mean
Oh, oh take me home
Take me down to the parasite city
I still love Damien Green
And my cocks now zitty
Free cabs to please take me home
I want to go
I want to know
Free cabs to please take me hooooooome
Baby
Speaking before today [Thursday's] House of Commons votes on MPs expenses, David Laws, MP for Yeovil Constituency, has called for urgent reform of the system.
David has called for MPs to vote to cut the overall cost of Parliament and MPs, with measures including abolishing the second home allowance for London MPs, a reform of the pensions system, and revised rules on the employment of family members.
David Laws MP said:
“It is clear that the expenses system for MPs needs to be fundamentally reformed, and today’s votes represent an opportunity to start this process.
“I am glad that some of the dotty proposals which the Prime Minister announced last week, including paying MPs simply for turning up to work, have already been dropped.
“Instead, we should be cutting the cost of Parliament, for example by scrapping the second home allowance for London MPs, and reforming the pensions scheme. We must also ensure proper accountability and transparency so the public can see what is being claimed, and why.”
Just another hypocrite, hang him
My pleasure
Hypocrite is not a word big enough to describe him.
oh dear
If Laws is a multi-millionaire, the only conclusion one can then come to is that he was using his expenses (tax payer) to pay for sex. That is the real issue. It would be too obvious simply to write a cheque each time he came round with a tube of KY.
@ Rentboy – KY is the worst thing, runs out too quickly – for Laws he needs Crisco for the amount of stuff he’s going have to shove up there.
I got a Beard.
He’s shafted himself, which is a shame as he seemed competent but that doesn’t excuse dishonesty and who the f@ck cares about him being a nine-bob? Aren’t they all?
ditto.
The sheer hypocrisy of it and utter lack of integrity. It’s not like he didn’t fucking know about it and NOW, fucking NOW. It’s Tucker’s law all over again.
You expect politicians to have integrity? Do you believe in fairies too? D’oh no, tooth fairies, D’oh, the Easter Bunny, yes that’ll do.
Is Swiss Bob a nine-bob then ?!
Why? You want a date?
Laws: ‘When I grew up, being gay was not accepted by most people’
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/laws-when-i-grew-up-being-gay-was-not-accepted-by-most-people-1986530.html
What a load of bollocks. He’s 45ish, grew up in Surrey and as someone slightly older who grew up in W/SW London, no one gave a shit, place is/was full of luvvies and poofs.
Quite agree
All these poofs feeling sorry for themselves and making excuses…
The plural of “poof” surely should be “pooves”?
puffies
poofters
Surly a swiss bob is worth about 12bob these days
Surly? You mean shurely, surely?
Alright, lad. I’m a peer now. That means I get to eat here for free. Got it? Now go get me a large stuffed crust deep pan meat supreme. And for my main, the rest of the menu.
Fuck off Fatty
Pot – kettle?
What is PC for fatty ?
Weight challenged ?!
The gentleman rubbed his prescotian underbelly, and demanded a bigger bowl for his visit to the ice cream factory.
I’m gonna throw up again unless I come across Tracey.
Prescott arrives at the Lords
The Churchill Room will never be the same again!
You can put lipstick on a pig but!!!!!!!!!!!
Now then laddy things in this matter have to be cosha, gedit
you can’t put a pig on a lipstick.
great philosophical point.
But will it be 40,000 quid in a rears?
I am the Crossbow Mentalist. I live in No10 Downing Street. I plead guilty to saving the world.
We have just the job for you Mr Brown would you like to run BP.
I think he’d be a perfect fit for that leaking oilwell in the Gulf of Mexico.
He needs to resign so he can come back later. Cameron should use this opportunity to get John Redwood in there to replace him and put another Lib Dem somewhere else.
Under this government of the progressives being a “little light on your loafers” means you’re untouchable. Laws will not resign or be sacked.In the poker hand of victims, taking it up the chuff is the equivalent of holding a Full House, Aces over Kings . If his partner was ethnic he might have made four of a kind. He can only be replaced if Cameron is holding a black, lesbian, amputee asylum seeker up his sleeve.
FULL HOUSE
FULL HOUSE
I raise you one Dwarf
piss off
Diane Abbott must be a royal flush then
In possession of all her limbs and born here – I make her no higher than four of a kind, 10s or Jacks.
Diane Abbot is a piece of shit of a blackish colour – she must be eating loads of spinach and taking iron tablets!
Yep, good move, but the LibDems will fight that all the way,
Cameron needs to find another fairy as well
To keep the lesbians happy…
I sucked some big balls last night.
And then I came home to Ed.
mmmmmmm.. big balls
fuck off tat
fuck off TaT!
BRING BACK HANGING!
balls hang!
David Laws is toast !!!!!
By the way,thank you so much for your support in my leadership campaign,Guido.
I can only promise better wisecracks and horse racing tips than that Old Etonian hoon,David Cameron
Well so far it’s been promises promises. What about some action, Ed? (as no doubt Yvette kept saying).
Whachoo talkin’ about, Lundie?
Fuck me – the dead rise again – and it’s not the House of Lords.
The ‘gay’ spin is complete bullshit.
Being gay is not a free pass to steal £40,000 from the Taxpayer.
Start as you mean to go on, Cameron, sack the thieving bastard.
If he sacks him, he might have to sack Spelman too…
Now there’s a thought!
What about the re-elected troughers; how do we get rid of them?
I had intended to list them but didn’t want to risk RSI.
Alistair was top notch on Question Time this week. A man of integrity and decency.
Fuck off TaT you schizo mental case
Surely Martin “fucking boring” Day?
Is there some link between Libs, or LibDems, and sexual “liberalism ?
Even my failing memory recalls:
Simon Hughes
Paddy Pantsdown
Jeremy Thorpe
On the “normal” list I can think of only that stand-up comedian Opik, although others may never have come to the press’s attention
Alan Douglas
Jeremy Thorpe. He didn’t hang about. When his ex lover tried to shop him he took out a (2nd rate) contract on him. What’s the matter with politicians these days?
Vote Liberal or We’ll Shoot Your Dog.
HHHhhhhrrrrnnn! HHHhhhrrrrnnn!!! (thud)
Apparently there is. A recent survey of apparatchiks showed liebores to be as kinky as tories (surprise, surprise) but the limp dems twice as kinky as either of them.
There could be many reasons for this. I recall the survey that showed men had twice the number of lovers as women did. If it was a statistically valid sample and the methodology was correct (big Ifs these days), then either the men or the women (or both) were lying. We know what politicos are like anyway; add in sexual wish-fulfilment and the only thing one can safely deduce is that YMMV. OTOH no smoke without smoke.
As you say, the statistics don’t add up.
It was found that contrary to popular belief that the women were the liars.
Parliament in general seems to attract homosexuals, petty fraudsters, bankrupts, narcissists and incompetents.
Well, they do constitute 98% of the British electorate.
You forgot me. You shit. Yummy!
Oaten
My hubby says I’m sexy.
Oh dear Madge, he should have gone to Specsavers – 35 years ago.
He should have gone to SCATS and bought some rat-poison.
naaaaaaayyy
Sadly Laws has made an error of judgement,which in a fairer society would be understandable, if his partner/lover/whatever declared this income for tax
it should help to draw a line under it.
All this in a week when lord to be John Prescott, (another trougher) who spent his life disparaging the House of Lords chooses to take the ermine just for dear Pauline who no doubt was thinking of her when he was humping good old Tracy,now that is a story of deceit and hypocrisy.
He’s heard of the grand selection of pies we enjoy.
Pauline knows where the bodies are buried and she has the horrible, fat bastard, pie gobbling, staff fucking, ignorant, monosyllabic, grunting, twat by the bollocks. (Figuratively, I’m sure)
Now she’s squeezing them ‘cos she wants to be a “Lady”, the lower class trollop.
Lundie’s not my type.
How about Rockall or Malin, then?
Malin Heeed
Oh, matron!
If the limp-wristed loonie is so good with money how come he appears t have screwed his career for a measly £5000 per annum. If he had conned the parliamentary expenses scrutineers for 50 million,or billion even, he may have had the balls to tackles the mess left by Gormless Gordon and his thieving minions. As it is, he is just another petty thief with an expensive rent boy habit.
perfect to be under Osborne then
Nothing wrong with having a decent sound fag under you!
Benefit thieves steal a measly how much each and are pilloried on programmes like Mike Graeme’s old show last night?
So…how does this work? If Cameron is to stick to principles & go out of his way to avoid being branded a hypocrite, then Laws must be sacrificed. However, if that were to happen, who replaces him? Does it have to be a Lib-Dem or can it be merit-based? Is this actually the first in a series of subtle moves to re-engineer the coalition to be more Tory and less Lib-Dem? Is Vince Cable next?
And speaking of scandals & hypocrisy….didn’t we already have decades worth of situations within Labour whereby Hunts like Mandleson were rehabilitated from “theiving liars” to Lords, and Blunkett, and others….people resign in disgrace and yet somehow come back to unelected & unaccountable government positions again within no time at all..
No doubt the Labour douchebags will be all over BBC etc this weekend trying to make as much hay out of this scenario as possible. Just remember, we wouldn’t be in any of this mess if Labour hadn’t been so incompetent & made such a hash of everything! This is a prime example of Labour’s Broken Society!!
And might I also remind everyone, it was a LIb-Dem who broke the rules…not a Tory !
Ha!
Your para 2 sets out the reason for a complete clearout of the HoL & its replacement with a totally elected 2nd. chamber.
For Dave it is set in cast iron
Laws stays or the dog gets it.
Something rather queer about this case ?
James Lundie? seems like a nice boy
Yeah – I thought he was a really good crack
So did I
What he needs is a good spanking.
A three line whip? Lovely…..HARDER!!!!!!…..
No Oaten, he does not do that, you sick fuck.
I would try to convince Dave to keep Laws in place.
He can make the argument that Laws is too important to the fabric of the coalition to be sacked, and paint it as a matter for the Lib Dem party leadership, who are of course entirely independent within the coalition, and not taking Tory cock every night at all.
Labour will make as much issue from it as they can, but most of the fire will by default roast the Lib Dems. If Dave and Nick play their cards right, and particularly if a pugnacious clot like Ed Balls becomes Labour leader, some of the rhetoric may begin to seem ambiguously homophobic. That would strengthen Laws’ position.
The Telegraph didn’t reveal Laws was gay, David Laws did.
Being gay doesn’t entitle you to steal £40,000 from the Taxpayer.
Of course it doesn’t, darling, but the issue can muddy the waters on what is otherwise a clear-cut issue. If the situation can be manipulated so that Labour seem mean spirited, then that is all to to the good, no?
Nothing entitles you to steal even 4p from the taxpayer…
Thats 5% of the cost of a typical bathplug. (this comment is aimed at the innumerate, to help them understand what 4p is).
Of course they did!
If there hadn’t been a relationship with ‘the landlord’ there’d have been no story.
Re ‘stealing £40,000 from the taxpayer’:
If he’d outed himself he could have claimed 1/2 the mortgage and drawn £80,000…
Horseshit
David Laws, the Chief Secretary to the Treasury, claimed up to £950 a month for eight years to rent rooms in two properties owned by his partner.
That’s him stealing £40,000 from the Taxpayer
The Daily Telegraph was not intending to disclose Mr Laws’s sexuality, but in a statement issued in response to questions from this newspaper, the minister chose to disclose this fact.
And that’s him choosing to bring his sexuality into it like him choosing not to reveal it before. The key words, HIS CHOICE.
and so taking it from rent man to rent boy.
If he were in charge of transport or health I could see him being able to stay on but as he has already been built up as “the face of cuts” responsible for many future job losses and pay freezes, I just can’t see him staying without this being a massive cloud over his head.
But again, isn’t that more of a problem for Clegg? Laws and Cable were both really being used as sacrificial lambs by the Tories, to absorb as much hate and poison from Labour and the electorate, before before the two parties had to fight another general election against each other.
If David Laws is remembered as the tax-hiking, service-slashing, expenses fiddling, ginger gay; then it won’t exactly worry George Osborne in 5 years’ time.
It’s a coalition Government.
It’s being described everywhere as the Governments first scandal.
Clegg cannot hire and fire Cabinet members only Dave can.
That power means Dave is the one who gets blamed or praised for firing/not firing people.
Is Chris Bryant, the welsh ginger minger, involved with David Laws as well?
I met a colleague at the airport who told me he was emigrating….
Why I asked, I thought you loved this country.
He replied…200 years ago if you were caught playing with the pink oboe, you were hung drawn and quartered….100 years ago you were hung…..50 years ago you were imprisoned…30 years ago you were fined…..
I’m getting out of here now before they make it compulsory.
There must be a gay bar where all these gay MPs hang out and organise their cottaging ?
Do you know where, Guido ??!
There does seem to be a gay cabal in Westminster insinuating themselves into positions where they can advance their sordid gay agenda. Simon Hughes, Oaten, Laws – a bugger’s muddle if ever there was one.
Now they all have pink socks – YUK!
This is quite sad as David Laws is a highly intelligent and talented man. I still can’t get my head around how so many never stopped to think how this would look. Which probably shows just how safe ALL M.P.s felt they were in claiming these allowances.
If he’s still here after the weekend he’ll survive it but he’ll have to move very fast indeed. If he goes who next? Phillip Hammond is now at Transport and it’s unlikely he’d move back at this stage.
Redwood? It would be a move that would keep the right wing happy.
Not that intelligent was he? Thief more accurately. Steals from the benefit claimants many of whom get as little as £52 a week despite what the DM tells you. That money is spent immediately, taxed and taxed again. Within 6 weeks its back in the hands of Laws and his buddies.
Hmm, Transport, I’ll give him 10/10 for transporting taxpayers money into his bank account.
The ‘Crossbow Cannibal’ has been put under 24hr surveillance.
Police are worried he might make a bolt for it.
He’ll probably get away with it for the time being, but his authority has been lessened and he is a dying man walking. He will have to go sooner or later.
This was to be new politics. He has to go. I’m sad about it but it was o0pen to him last year to quietly regularise this and he just kept the cash.
he should be suspended while being investigated – while I think it dosnt look good I dont think its right to say he is toast yet. It really looks like he is but he has a right for the investigation to come up with its findings – if / when it is decided he has broke the rules then he cannot be back in cabinet until after he has faced the electorate again…… Bloody idoit !!!!!!!!! the man has talent
It’s a scandal and an expenses scandal to boot.
The ONE thing you cannot afford to do if you are the New Government promising change is to start barely 3 weeks out and keep a guy in place who’s fiddled the taxpayer on his expenses for £40,000.
Even if it calms down after a few weeks it tarnishes everything that comes after with the stench of Old Politics.
Every day, every hour, every minute he remains there says to the voter we are no better than the last lot.
The Libs will say he is indispensible but the buck stops at Cameron and it’s his Coalition Government that stinks of old expenses scandals right now.
If they can’t find ayone to replace him then they are in real trouble anyway because sooner or later there is always a reshuffle.
Especially having reappointed the flipping Squeaker…
This is NOT the New Politics that we all hoped for on this blog…
No to speak of all these f’ing lobbying firms massively corrupting the system without anyone attacking them…(except the odd blog)…
Maybe this amount should be a third of a Jacqui
David Laws’ partner has his own political blog
UK General Election 2010 | Author Archives – edelman.co.uk
Maybe he should fall on his sword (in private of course)
OINK!!! OINK!!! (skrittle)
A real shame as he looked like one of the best people in the new coalition. If the story is as it is shown in the Telegraph I don’t see how he can do anything other than resign and do so today. Hanging on just makes the new govt look as corrupt as the old.
Agreed, he did look competant. This will be a test for the new coalition. Will they clean up the HoC or do they wish to be viewed in the same light as Gordon and Tony’s bunch of troughers.
Once again the odour of a mixture of scented faeces and KY jelly pervades the corridors of power. Uggghhh!
Naouuuuwurgh!! You’re bold, incha?
i thought he was just purging himself…..
I can see why leading this bunch drove poor old Charlie to the drink.
http://www.bummedbytheboss.co.uk/
Clegg has to get rid of Laws. If he does not, the coalition Gov’t is strangled at birth. If Cameron has to do it, same scenario. He blatantly, knowingly broke the rules, his sexuality is no excuse.
Both PM and DPM must know that it will take a very long time to rebuild the public’s trust in Parliament, and that if they try to dodge this the electorate will be finished with them now. To allow him to continue his role invites every commentator to remind us of his misdemeanour at every move he makes. It would appear worse hypocrisy than Nu-labour’s.
Of course this is the real reason there was no cabinet appearance on QT; he was scheduled, then pulled. Unfortunate for the new team, Laws had an air of competence but he has blown it completely
Dead meat!
Yeah totally agree Laws has to go.
The fella just cannot carry on in his current job, he has to go now.
For some reason when I think of Lib Dems (which ain’t often) I always associate them with homosexuals and dowdy women, always have and always will.
Cleaning up politics is more important than any person’s career or indeed the survival of the coalition.
Shame. We need competence, but he has to go, as we can’t have any more of the corruption.
The Penguin
He ‘borrowed’ money against his Somerset home to lend to his boyfriend to buy a bigger house. Where was the tax payers money going then – rent or repayments for his mortgage in Somerset? Dig deep into his expenses claims over the last 8 years. Its about time the LibDems were subject to the level and intensity of scrutiny the two main parties have had to endure for decades.
http://www.libdemvoice.org/four-lib-dem-mps-censured-over-second-home-allowances-18440.html
Other Libdem MPS have been doing the same thing…
The whole bloody lot are at it (swindling the taxpayer, that is, not homosexual relations). The new troops look as if they mean to carry on the noble traditions of shafting and pissing on the back of the Great British Public with a true devotion to duty.
It’s a bit weird to think that only 3 weeks ago some of these new MPs were “honest, decent, legal and truthful” i.e. normal citizens. Truly a week is a long time in politics.
“The whole bloody lot are at it (swindling the taxpayer, that is, not homosexual relations).”
You speak for yourself, duckie.
grown up day of meetings in London, followed by 5 hours of start of half term train ride with transformers, daisy books & improvised picnic
http://twitter.com/SarahBrownUK/status/14933368318
I hear Sarah spends much of her time in Canterbury these days. She hasn’t seen Gordon for almost two weeks.
Gordon who ?
has anybody? is he in a sanitorium somewhere gnawing at his restraints?
or just sitting in his basement sticking pins in blair and cameron dolls…….
She shares that situation with the HoC.
Didn’t Gordon make a long phone call to Canterbury one Christmas eve…..
Whats all this about Canterbury? Is there something we should know?
He should have sorted it when the expenses bubble burst. Not doing so, quietly when in the ranks of the (so thought at the time) no hopers, shows an error of judgement. Maybe he’s not as bright as I thought. No wonder he pulled out of QT if he’d had a whiff that this was in the offing – everything he would have said could have come back to haunt him. You keep your head down when you think bullets may start flying.
If he stays or if he goes his reputation is in tatters,no if’s no buts he should now be facing the HMRC/courts/criminal protection services explaining what he did,to do that he needs to resign,if he does it quickly he can be back in that’s if the coalition is still going in 6months otherwise he will get it thrown back at him every day as no one will trust him.
I’ve just had to endure listening to Lord Pantsdown on the BBC squirming around the definition of “partner”. Thought that I might lose my breakfast – just revolting. I couldn’t care less that David Laws prefers a reach around – but I do care that he helped himself to £40,000 of our money in clear breach of the rules. Well, clear as long as you have an understanding of the word “partner”.
A reach around? Just the kind of reason people wish to keep their sexuality private. Frankly, you could have done better!
I’ve never shared a bank account with husband/partner, and have had (thank god) varying degrees of separate social lives (which I guess you would, particularly, if you were trying to keep a relationship under wraps and away from family and friends).
It’s a pity he’s using such an excuse, as a supposed Liberal, at a time when civil partnerships etc are putting gay relationships on more of a par. Yet he’s claiming the situation is different because he’s gay? I’m disappointed in him.
http://cyberboris.wordpress.com/2010/05/29/we-need-david-laws/
He probably didn’t want to rip the public off one little bit, he just wanted to keep his private life private. Considering the deeply unpleasant remarks directed on a regular basis at anyone who is gay, I don’t blame him! This unpleasantness and nastiness is hurled about all the time, but when someone decides to keep their private life private, maybe to protect their families, people are surprised!
Until society progresses to the point that people are allowed just to be themselves, this sort of situation will occur. No, David Laws definitely should not resign. He is uniquely qualified to deal with the mess we are in, he is brilliant, he has apologised, paid back the money and we should accept his apology, while also accepting this is in no way all his fault.
How come this is being revealed right now, and what is the agenda of the Daily Telegraph?
How come this is being revealed right now, and what is the agenda of the Daily Telegraph?
I think that it was about to come out by another way, organised by Alastair Campbell.
I think that’s probably correct and accounts for Campbell having that photo of Laws on QT.
Oddly,being outed,attacked and ambushed by Campbell on live television might have been better for him.No right-thinking person regards Campbell as anything better than human offal and he might have found sympathy enough to save himself easily.
The money aspect is the wrong part of David Laws situation. He should have acknowledged and dealt with it privately with the fees office or the commission before now.
I believe outing him was a wicked and nasty attempt by the Telegraph because they’re bitter over the coalition. They wanted a Tory government. Tough! I wonder how much more digging the nasty little vermin are undertaking to try and dissolve the coalition.
David Laws must ask himself if a public flaying was worth the privacy issue. If his friends and family knew nothing of his sexuality, then it was a cruel way to bring them into the loop.
It’s about troughing, not sexuality.
The nerve of them!
Just fancy!
The Telegraph yet again pointing a finger at our bollock-naked Lib/Lab/Con emperor while the rest of the media hallucinate those fabulous new clothes.
David Laws private life is his private life, it’s only our business because he starting using our money illegally to pay for it.
It didn’t take long for McBride and his stooges at the Telegraph to begin smearing David Laws.
Laws has been one of the most successful members of the new coalition government so it was only a matter of time before Labour shills in the media tried to destroy him.
The BBC are enjoying themselves like pigs in shit.
I agree whole-heartedly. In the same way the statement at the beginning of Question Time was ‘BBC rule’ and completely unwarranted. Giving A Campbell a bigger head than even he could cope with. Nefarious little twit that he is.
yeah, the McBride the Telegraph and the BBC forced Laws to steal £40,000 from the taxpayer
nutter
laws has stolen taxpayer’s money and should go…….but the point about the telegraph is valid……..do you honestly believe having sat on all this information for over a year they only realised this week what had been claimed?
i for one don’t…….so the real question is how much more is there to come out……and what kind of pressures can people in possession of this information put on ministers of the crown?
the telegraph said they had presented this information in the public interest……so why were the people of yeovil not informed before the election………something about this is very wrong……..
another issue is just how incompetent are MI5…they are meant to give briefings to incoming PM’s about prospective ministers…….cock-up or conspiracy………..
they are Lib Dems
they really didn’t matter that much before and the telegraph only had time for the ‘headline’ bits of the expenses scandal
so back when it broke most of the research went into the Labour Cabinet, then some to the shadow Cabinet and the Libs were only given a cursory glance for any obvious stuff
but that’s changed now they are Government Ministers not forgettable Lib Dems
so every Lib Dem in that Cabinet is now getting the ‘treatment’ with every line of their expenses on the telegraph file being scrutinised
the good news is that it’s probably still just the Libs for now
the bad news is they will also work back on all their old files of the Shadow Cabinet as was then but Government Cabinet as is now
they had limited resources to pore over the monsterous reams of data on the expenses disk so the Labour Cabinet got the brunt of it understandably
that no longer applies
It has to be David Cameron who gets rid of Laws, not Clegg getting rid of Laws. This has to be about DC being a strong leader and showing that no-one is above the law no matter how seemingly indispensable. The only other option is for Laws himself to resign. But if you let Clegg do it, it shows Cameron as weak, and it also sets a precedent whereby only Lib-Dems can fire Lib-Dems. This is a test of Cameron’s backbone. It’s very unfortunate, cos Laws was very good & is more Tory than some of the Tories themselves…..but I really don’t see how you can be in charge of cutting spending & waste whilst at the same time being involved in yet another “old politics” expenses scandals…
A real shame…
Laws should stay. He should do a mea culpa, pay back the money and face down his detractors in the media.
If he is sacked or resigns, then whose head will Labour and their many accomplices in the media go after next?
They should go after anyone else who is crookedly lining his pockets while giving the rest of us an austerity agenda.
Claiming for rent to pay off Cheeky Boy’s mortgage is against the rules. Dead simple.
Yes it’s a shame, and just as I was thinking there was aa decent competent politician about, he’s gone and blotted his copy book. How did he think he would get away with it?! Once you have power you are scrutinised everyone is out to get you. He has to be naive, and that’s no good for a minister with all that power, however good he is at his job.
Come back Gordon Brown ,I miss you
You might Martin but we can still blame him for this,he was in charge and he failed his public duty because he was troughing,don’t think he’s safe he ain’t.
Put him up against the wall, with or without with cigarette & blindfold – I promise you that I won’t miss him.
They’re all troughers – STOP PRESCOTT’S PEERAGE!
http://www.gopetition.co.uk/online/36675.html
IT’S A FUCKING DISGRACE!
Signed it !
signed
Signed it, what only 60 odd!
Get rid of the thieving Hunt !
and he wants us to pay 40% Capital Gains Tax……!!!!
Hang the fucking lot of the lying thieving holy-than-thou liberal bastards
Last week he was the rising star, this week he’s the falling angel.
Laws must go! The cleaning up of our mucky parliament is more important than the survival of the coalition. Troughers must pay!
Cliche… one Law for us and another for them.
but the link still works. this is pure hilarity
http://conservativehome.blogs.com/centreright/2010/05/what-david-laws-did-with-a-pot-plant.html
Did he skin up a spliff with it?
Well, ducky, when I was a minister I didn’t have pot plants either – I preferred a bowl of pansies
Then again…..think about Timothy Geithner in the US. Here’s a guy who used to be president of the Federal Reserve of NY, and before that worked at Goldman…and yet when he was being vetted for the role of Secretary of Treasury it emerged that he had underpaid taxes & made some serious errors in judgement. He went through the wringer, took all kinds of abuse, and yet somehow managed to hold on to his job….How can the guy who runs the institution charged with collecting taxes be stupid enough to screw up his own taxes and yet still keep his job? The rationale at the time was that the world was coming to an end & Geithner was indispensable in the rescue efforts, and that if the role required an un-tainted Saint, then the position would be unfilled for years.
Not sure the Tories can use that same rationalisation here…
Laws kinda seems like he just simply has to be thrown out as a sacrificial lamb to the baying mobs…
Like they say….take it in the pail, go to jail !
This is news? The man is a prat
“Mr Campbell dismisses Mr Balls’s “awful” strategy papers, adding that he spoke “drivel” in meetings.”
I’m sorry to say he has to be sacked. Replaced quickly by the all singing, all dancing, Saint Vincent of Cable.
Vince, oh me gawd Guido will throw a fit, like a red rag to a bull methinks…
Friends said the chief secretary had always guarded his privacy fiercely, saying: “His family don’t know that he’s gay, many of his closest friends don’t know. He has never talked about his private life.”
Horse shit – the only people who didn’t know in his own constituency were the voters. There isn’t a single member of the Party that didn’t know, nor a single member of the press core in Westminster. Who the fuck is he kidding? He took public money to fund the purchase of his boyfriends home – in what way is that acceptable?
His is a talented lad, learn a trick or two from Mandy David – he’ll be back if he resign now, stays on the back benches for a couple of years, demonstrates contrition and has the integrity to be himself rather than hide his sexuality in the shadows
He should have used someone else’s money to buy his own home
Yeah right. Most of his boyfriends don’t even know he’s gay.
there is a lot to say for political reform as we suffer another five years back on the old gravytrain . . . . .
Investigate Edelman and Co
These people are a disgrace to our democracy…
And now the Liberals are flexing their muscles on Europe too
Chris Patten re-opens EPP issue
“In an interview with BBC Parliament programme the Record: Europe, Patten predicted that David Cameron will eventually see the error of his ways and rejoin the mainstream centre right group in the European parliament.”
What else will Dave have to do to satisfy them ?
He’s bending over pretty hard for them to keep Laws for them as it is
A gay piggy is still a piggy.
Dead simple.
If you want “intensely” to keep your fudge packing private, don’t try and trick tax payees into footing the bill.
The rules for the public do not allow for privacy as a reason to defraud e.g. JSA. What is so special about gay politicians?
Dead meat.
Hello real world, David Laws living with his boyfriend paying rent….big deal. He had to have accomodation in London, he would have paid someone rent I suppose, remember Jaquie Smith living in her sister’s back room.
Laws didn’t steal any money….and now he wants to pay it all back, so let him, many other current MPs have had to do the same recently, and then get on with the job, govern this country properly. Britain is becoming a nation of “Nanny” state people.
Maybe, but others are facing prosecution for their bent deals. What’s ‘nanny state’ about wanting to root out corrupt or fraudulent crooked pigs?
I’m off to steal £40,000 but it’s fine because I’ll say sorry a few years later and pay the money back. And it doesn’t matter anyway because I’m gay.
I feel confident the jury will see it my way.
That’s OK Dizzy, we forgive you.
Not guilty ducky
Lizzie: if somebody got caught shoplifting, then offered to pay the £40,000 of stuff they’d just nicked, would you say OK?.
As for saying it was difficult for him being gay – the bloke is 44 born 1966/67. It might be an excuse if he had been born in the 40s or 50s, but being gay has been legal for years now – long before he became an adult.
I read his statement as that Laws originally shared the house (non sexual) and after two years they started shagging. Since then, they’ve continued to shag, but on a “friends with benefits” rather than a “partners” basis.
In which case, he gets to claim, right?
Is all this because he doesn’t want the prurient investigation into the type of non-monogamous gay relationship that he’s probably having?
And is the whiff of Alistair Campbell over this timing?
He’s a “cottager” as well ?
OMG…
But the BBC rentboys should ove Laws then…
Probably why he has survived so far……but when he got into bed with the Bullingdons, that was the last straw for the hysterical shirtlifters at the beeb.
Would prefer pensioners myself if I knew about football
That has the whiff of desperate bullshit and spinning about it dear.
Please, you’re fucking embarrassing yourself.
He stole £40,000 from the taxpayer.
End of story.
He goes.
Now.
Evilali is at back of all wickedness. Laws is a better man despite all his faults.
Same old troughing from the bent pigs. Heard one prat on the news saying that the media should focus more on his capabilities than his personal failings. Using that logic Harold Shipman should have been put in charge of medicinal euthanasia for terminal patients. And with Prescott becoming a lord this just highlights the foulness and corruptness of our political system.
I thought something nasty was going to come out in the Telegraph after I saw Andy Porter and Damien McBride knocking back a few in a Westminster boozer last week.
Well ask yourself a question; what is more important serving the peoples of the UK honestly and diligently or, propping up a crook? (Mr Laws) is not important to the peoples of the UK only to an unelected Coalition that at this rate will struggle to see the year out!
Its very dissapointing but I have already seen enough to know that the “Coalition” is nothing more than the “last chance hotel” for a bunch of the usual suspects that huff and puff about jam tomorrow and how we “all” must tighten our belts while they carry on looting the public purse because they think the UK owes them a living and/or the taxpayer is too stupid to notice.
Name any “they are all the same”
Proven, not worthy of trust or respect kick him out!
“he will probably survive because he is too important to the coalition…”
Still a liar though.
Mister James Lundie,
Born on Monday,
Christened on Tuesday,
Partnered on Wednesday,
Outed on Thursday,
Public on Friday,
Shredded on Saturday,
Forgotten on Sunday,
That was the end
Of Mr James Lundie.
http://ummahpulse.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=273&Itemid=71
Another Hampstead lobbyist caught influence peddling
By the Observer…!!
“Guido thinks he will probably survive because he is too important to………gay rights?…
One Law for the bum boys, another law for us.
I don’t know which disgusts me more,the gay bum fun or the line my own pockets attitude.
A pig is a pig, whether it be a muddy pig or a pink pig. Of course Laws didn’t know he was doing wrong so he becomes a pig who flies past windows.
Laws is guilty of hypocrisy as he claimed during the election campaign that he had not profitted from taxpayer funding of second homes as he “only rented”.
It is apparent that he was transferring taxpayer’s money to Lundie to fund his mortgage and that he increased his claims on the taxpayer to help Lundie buy a bigger house. So Lundie clearly has profitted from taxpayer funding of his home!
If Laws supports the coalition policies on recall, he should offer to resign his seat if 5% of his electorate sign a recall petition.
seconded
Wish the taxpayer would pick up the cost of my young bint’s apartment.
I think I qualify tho as I don’t want my wife to know about my turbo sexuality!!!!
So, if I flog (some hope) the second home I bought through hard work and sacrifice, this coalition, at the behest of the LibDems, is going to hit me with 40% CGT …and this slimy little creep is the man overseeing the hike.
Well fuck him, his £40k of troughing…and I belive he is a multi-millionaire anyhow so he didnt need the cash to begin with.
Off with his head.
Greedy troughing pig….and massive hypocrite to boot.
[...] with the Telegraph over his expenses. He stands accused of claiming for rent from his long-term partner which may be against rules against paying rent to a spouse or equivalent. He has accepted a degree [...]
[...] Guido thinks Laws will probably survive because he is too important to the coalition. If that proves to be [...]
He’s a goner for sure.
Do we all remeber Nick Clegg claiming that expenses fiddling was the preserve of Labour and the Conservatives, and that the Liberals were whiter than white?
Laws has shredded his leader’s reputation and judgement as well.
Honesty is like pregnancy; there is no halfway house. One is honest or dishonest, pregnant or not pregnant.
Laws has to go, and if Clegg, Cameron and Laws himself cannot see that, they are unfit for Government.
Was Laws pregnant as well ?
Nah! He just happens to carry an extra belly like JJ Smith
Ho ho ho ho ho. I love it when these benefit cheats are caught. It gives me so much ammunition to throw back against those taxpaying mugs who accuse me of living off the backs of others.
I raise my can of Stella to you Mr Laws.
As a former welfare minister dear I’d like to assure you that I was so badly paid I had to claim for all those groceries- caviar and champagne doesn’t come cheap. And how do you know I did’nt have the cleaning done?
Gudio
You say this scandal has sex and money
There must be some drugs in there as well….!
Who supplies the Houses of Parliament ?
I have had suspicion for some time that somebody must have spiked the HOC water coolers with hallucinogenics.
That would explain Blinky Balls’ mad eyes
And Gordon’s madness
Must be catching the Coalition now
Shame Mandy is nowhere to be seen in this affair, otherwise I could say that this had Mandy’s fingerprints all over it. BTW has it all been cleared up how he could afford a £2 million home on his salary?
Undeclared loans from foreigners …
Mandy knows how to keep “things” under the rug…
So now we can add gays as well as ethnics for the type of people that can be excused almost anything in this politically correct and corrupt country?
They may think that but the public think otherwise,him keeping his homosexuality quiet is not a problem,but he is now in the goverment which opens him up to blackmail by keeping it quiet,so the paper has done him and us a favour,he can do us a favour and resign on the improper use of public expenses unless like the old guard he thinks he’s above the law.
This bloody “right to privacy” thing they always trot out!
If you set yourself above the rest of us, make rules about how the rest of us have to behave (even in private) they you have no right to privacy.
If we want to know what breakfast cereal Balls’ kids eat….. What colour Sam’s knickers are ….. we have a right to know.
BTW on the underwear thing I would only want to know because I could never support a man who lets his wife wear greying frayed things – even if they are comfortable.
I’m rather hoping that they are pink and frilly.
fap,fap,fap
Homosexuality is an abomination !!
Ooh – isn’t he bold. Come here and say that and I’ll hit you with Frank Field’s handbag
Laws takes away the child trust fund on the grounds that (to quote him): “…government payments into the scheme are essentially being funded by public borrowing”.
By the same token “public borrowing” has been funding his and his partner’s lifestyle. He should go!
Right with you on that, Martin.
Government should be banned from borrowing and spending money that isn’t theirs to spend. (That way a Labour Government would never be able to run up eye-water debts.)
Yes the bas…rd has stolen £500 from my 5 year old grandaughter.
Who do I shack up with?
Give Laws job to Saint Vince, and all will be forgiven.
Guido
I’m gay
Just found out and I’m just 18
Can you tell me which politician to shack up with so that I can get all my expenses paid please ?
PS I would like some names please
I am new to Westminster
Take you prick… erm.. I mean pick.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LGBT_politicians_from_the_United_Kingdom
I feel like chicken tonight
But don’t you see that you pratts are playing their game? You come here whining about how unjust the system is, and then go back to your drone existences, pay them more taxes and once every five years vote for the charade to play on.
So what do you do?
March
I’m with you, let’s get stabbing.
So are you living in this country or in another,if you live in another country,we’ve read your comment,if you live in this country how the hell are you getting away from paying taxes,especially VAT or are you so rich you go on your 90 day holidays each and have a good accountant.
Talking of hypocritical Condems it is worth having a look at Michael Fallon who wants to be chair of the Treasury select committee. For many years FAllon has claimed 20% of the rates and utilities bill at his private home on his office expenses allowance. The rules for that allowance have always said that such expenses have to be incurred “wholly exclusively and necessarily” in connection with an MPs parlimentary duties. Those with a minimal knowledge of the tax system (which we should presume includes Fallon and others on the Treasury Select Committee) will know that “wholly exclusively and necessarily” is the same test that HMRC applies to all those ordinary tax payers who are employed when it comes to claiming tax relief on expenses. Has anyone on PAYE ever been able to claim for their home expenses for when they work at home???? But then “wholly exclusively and necessarily” can be interpreted differently if you want to chair the Treasury Select Committee cann’t it?
It doesn’t matter either way, but it never occurred to me Laws was gay. I had, though, reflected on his partner, presumably a wife – I thought. Could imagine she was a staid, broad, solid sort of woman, not pretty at all – perhaps rather academic Perhaps they had a solitary daughter. How wrong can one be?!
They’re all fucking gay.
So are most air traffic controllers, hospital doctors and officers in the armed forces. Get used to it.
Flipping hell, here we go again.
A few weeks of quietness,people moaning about Guido’s blog falling apart because he has nothing to report because a:he is in the pay of the Conservatives b:he is in the pay of MI5 c:he is in the pay of both:d he was just fed up etc,Parliament is like buses,if you miss one mp getting his/her arse reamed for misconduct of one type or another,just hang on another one will be along soon.
So Guido just hangs around the Parliamentary bus stop then ??!
A bit risks nowadays I would say…
Exactly my thoughts
Who would want to hang around with this awful bunch of fiddlers, weirdos and crooks…??
Up to a few months ago I think Guido would have had to hang around bus stops waiting for a bus to get around town,so a bus stop by Parliament could be called a Parliamentry one,risks he takes every day.
How depressing! What people choose to pop in their mouths, or bottoms for that matter, is entirely their business. What I can never accept is that if I bend over, somebody has their hand in my back pocket and extracting my cash for their personal benefit. Once again it comes back to probity. To use the gay aspect simply doesn’t wash. He has had since June last year to ‘regularise’ the situation. He failed to do so.
Painful though it may well be, Cameron must sack him and send a clear message that this type of behaviour is simply unacceptable. Call it ‘tough love’ if you wish but just get on with it!
He might lose half his cabinet that way though.
Are hallf the Cabinet gay then ?
Higher proportion than Zanu ??
Yes, Cameron should give him a jolly good Rogering over this one.
Ar say bring him into the House of Lords with me and Mandy. We’ll teach him how to trough properly and I’ll take him round to see Tracey as well. That’ll sort him out.
fuck me I’ve just puked me dinner up wathching that mastubation of abominations
Actually we rather enjoyed it.
I say, who leaked this to the Press ? Was it you Alyingstare ?????
it stinks
rent out property/hohum-happens to be lover(straight or gay)
for foookin years not months
if he isnt sacked this coalition will be toast
If he’s paying a lover £900 a month to sleep in his bed, isn’t that prostitution?
I demand that this poor woman not be oppressed any more and that the bad man go to gaol!
Just goes to show that after all this time the expenses system is still a complete mess and a rouges charter, despite numerous attempts to make any claims submitted transparent the 646 still cling on to their little (and not so little) scams, like limpets that have been genetically altered to bond to banknotes.
‘Cept there’s 650 of the fuckers now. They’re breeding like flies on a richard.
More quantitative easing, what happened to reform?, get Rentokill down and send in the Jack Russell’s (very good ratters).
LibDem politician is a poof shock-horror.
Cameron should sack him for troughing. Simple
Roaringly sensible stuff Archbishop!
About time someone blew off long and loudly about these “chutney blowfish”.
(as I believe they are called in the Liberal Elite circles.)
Why is it that these uncouth “trouser partridges” infest her Majesties Government ? I’ll tell you why! They all need a damn good thrashing!!
Cameron and his Conservatives could not be more different from this chummy network of “hubcap squeezers”. They had any residual disgusting “sellotape farming” tendancies beaten out of them at Eton and elsewhere.
And they did not forget it!!
The Conservative Cabinet members are the masculine butch model of rampant hetrosexuality we envy BECAUSE of the many late night sessions with their trousers at their ankles getting their arses polished to a rosy sheen by an obliging older and wiser fellow who knew the meaning of tough love.
Those moans and cries that rung through the night are not something an impressionable youth soon forgets and soon puts him on the straight and narrow driving out unmentionable repugnant thoughts of “Parsnip Fishing” forever more.
These “Cigar warblers” are indeed everywhere now and it would not surprise me in the slightest that the rumours of Clegg staging mini vignettes from the Musical “Hello Dolly” before any Cabinet meeting were true.
When will the Freedom of Information Act reveal these Liberal “trombone paragliders” for what they are ?!??!?
That’s what I want to know.
Yours,
still very much in the pink gin
Sir Bufton Tufton III FRS OBE MFI LSD
I take it a personal invitation to the ‘Pink Oboe Concert’ is out of the question then?
I love your language Sir Tufton III
Pleae let us have more…
And so the tory tut-tuting and finger pointing begins. This is the second step in the process for the coalitions collapse (Vince was the first), leaving the party which was the largest to begin with in power. Ooh, and what a surprise, it happens to be the tories.
With it evaporates the best chance the givedems will ever have of their cherished PR reform. On which point, as hilarious as Bruins knickers down legs-in-the air deathbed conversion to PR goes on the steps of Downing St, I wonder if that new found enthusiasm will be carried forwards by the next liebour leader? If not, my gosh, it must have been the most desperate attempt to stay in power the country has ever seen, and lifelong policies were being abandoned for self-preservation and not the good of the people. Surely new liebour never did that – did they?
The next Labour leader is going to be my friend David Miliband and he’s as straight as the next man. The next man is Julian Clary
How long did the new cleaned up Parliament last? A week was it?
Did we have a new cleaned up Parliament,must have happened when I wasn’t looking.
Clegg has been lucky in that none of his MPs have so far been accused of flipping properties. The difference between the reactions of the party leaders is clear. When Cameron became aware that Andrew MacKay was on the fiddle, he immediately dispensed with his senior adviser before the sun rose. Cameron went further yesterday and told Conservatives to sack their local Tory MP if they had their snoughts in the trough. Guido will stick his neck out and say that by contrast Gordon will do whatever he can to hold onto Nick Brown, his troughing chief whip, come what may.
what a difference an election makes
Mr Laws’s position is now untenable. His remaining in the cabinet demeans us all in the eyes of the public. I think he should do the honourable thing and stand down.
Did Gordon manage to repair Liebour’s moral compass ??
looks like he’s given it to Dave
The only reason gay people make a big show about it is because THEY are the ones who feel inadequate deep down in the eyes of nature.
Project onto others all you want, accuse everyone else of homophobia all you want, but you know deep down that it is you removing yourself from the genepool and it is you who cannot procreate. It is you who feels incomplete.
Fuck off, bigoted twat. Hope one of your kids turns out gay – 5-10% chance.
so you can suck his cock or her vagina?
perhaps, as you obviously believe homosexuality to be genetically determined, you may care to explain how a process of survival of the fittest through natural selection can be possible in a subset of the population whose behaviour 100% removes them from the pool of reproducing genes
or are you suggesting that the friend of dorothy gene is the only spontaneously mutating adaptive selection known to medical science that has reintroduced itself in every generation……?
“perhaps, as you obviously believe homosexuality to be genetically determined…”
I am gay and I know I did not choose to be gay. In all my experiences I have never met any gay person who has. People have committed suicide rather than face up to being gay – it is not a choice, and many people have tried to fight it or change. Mainstream science recognises this.
“you may care to explain how a process of survival of the fittest through natural selection can be possible in a subset of the population whose behaviour 100% removes them from the pool of reproducing genes”
Homosexuality is not hereditary, that’s why. My parents are not gay, nor my grandparents. For whatever reason, it exists – within the human population around 5% – 10% will be gay.
As for “sick of miltant gays” (lol) – he obviously has some sort of axe to grind. Perhaps another Ted Haggard or any one of the other dozens who have campaigned loudly and preached against homosexuals but turned out to be secretly gay themselves. Normal people don’t care what others do in bed. Perhaps he was buggered up the arse as a child
And BTW, I personally believe what David Laws has done is outrageous.
sorry darwin’s ghost, just realised I misread your post which I now recognise was actually aimed at the “sick of militant” twat!
If David Laws is “intensly private”, what the fuck is he doing in politics ffs.
Twat him, the Fuckwit.
http://cyberboris.wordpress.com/2010/05/29/we-need-david-laws/
What I’m thinking now is maybe they were just friends with benefits, even if it did go on a long time. If so he is in the clear, because they weren’tpartners. David Laws is single, adult and can sleep with whoever he damn well pleases. If it was friends with benefits, they were not partners and he is in the clear. They both could have been seeing other people as well., and why the hell not?
Thieving bastard apologist lickspittle! Why don’t you bend even further forward? I’m sure there’s another inch these fuckers can force up your willing rectum. Don’t you have any self respect, or do you let scumbags piss all over you for kicks?
they lived together for years
semantic weaseling about ‘partner’ doesn’t even begin to justify £40,000 of taxpayers money paying his rent
he’s not paying the money back because he thinks he’s in the clear
and there’s probably more of this to come
this will either be very slow and painful or he goes before monday
All three big parties will be fucked in the next election.
That’s what they said last time.
I’m slowly turning into an iguana. Not that you care.
Give him a seat in Lords with Mandelson and the arch trougher Kinock then employ him again…simple solution.
Liberal Democrats have a high standard of living to maintain. Just look at ‘Ming’ Campbell’s past claims. Campbell certainly holds true to his Liberal/Socialist ‘fairness’ principles (ie) the poor/or less well off pay the tax to keep his 2nd home decorated and to pay for his food bills). Anyway, i fancy David Laws so he should not be sacked. He’s just about the only totty on the governments front bench.
He’s corrupt. Get over it.
‘being intensely private’ is no excuse for mega troughing off the taxpayer.
It’s difficult to find a reason for him not resigning when he is now also Chief Secretary to the Treasury and just about to hit us with some major cuts and taxes.
This may be the last of the old ‘ not quite dead and buried’ expenses scandal spinning out, but I think he should go!!
Doubt if this is the last nell. There’s probably lots more skeletons hidden away in the closets of the last Parliamentary expenses accounts waiting to be brought into the light. Law’s deliberately tried to “launder” his arrangements last September when he moved to a different address. He must have thought he’d got away with it. How many more MP’s are sweating like rapists,as dear old tat would put it, waiting for some ferreting investigator to find another smoking gun?
Ere, wot are the pies like in the Upper Chamber ?
What a chin rest of a man!
Old Codgery says
In my day homosexuality was illegal. It’s now compulsory.
Old Codgery sounds like a riot.
Did his bumchum declare this second income on his tax returns ?
Also apart a reach around what “favours” did Laws do for this knobbyist?
Never heard of Grace and Favour apartments?
Money for sex, Dearie. It’s the usual arrangement.
The press have known about this for a while. Laws like most of the lib dems is a troughing sneak. Laws will be forced to resign. The public are fed up with these bottom feeders.
Ouch!, sting in the tail.
James Lundie had better watch his back
The Libs have form on this kind of thing
Let’s hope they manage to shoot the man this time instead of the poor bloody dog.
Arf!, fetch stick, Bang!, whimper!
Oh for f-cks sake aren’t you banned yet ? you horrid piece of spittle!.
What did I ever do to hurt you, pray?
didn’t see Guido put too many bets on Labour Cabinet members staying
I wonder why ?
I see the postings on here is fecked up again ! that was to the little tosser dead baby !
why bother ? the scum always gets deleted sooner or later
Obviously this grubby thief Laws is trying all the usual excuses and get out of jail free cards, keeping his sexuality secret because he had to etc, didnt tell anyone about his partner because…ooops ooh thats right he didnt have a partner did he? they were simply casual friends who hardly knew each other….except for the long term relationship they were in of course. So he gives his non partner and sometime casual friend tens of thousands of pounds AND helps him with a MORTGAGE for his own gaff and they have been together for years.
This just highlights how dishonest and grubby our political classes have become, he is only sorry because he got fucking caught, he is only saying he will give the stolen cash back because he got caught, he is trying on every excuse he can because he got fucking caught AND whats worse is he is going to get away with it all because the laws only apply to the little people who dont have the right political friends and connections.
People like Laws now rule over us, they shit in our faces and laugh at our struggles, they hate us and despise us and believe they are destined to rule us as our betters.
In a few months Laws will pay a few quid back, maybe a fraction of the cash he has stolen and the Westmincer commissars wonder why they are hated?
What’s with the limpdiks making it out to be a gay outing that’s the crime when it’s the gay stealing which is the crime
Smoke and mirrors. It’s how we always enjoy fucking each other and the taxpayers.
Should have been a tampax user like JJ Smith then
Ah the status quo is maintained One Law for them another for the rest of us.
Lundy?
Snarl snarl
YOU BASTARD !!!
Mr Campbell dismisses Mr Balls’s “awful” strategy papers, adding that he spoke “drivel” in meetings.
http://tinyurl.com/3adw4ga
I only the rules had been the same in my day
It would have kept Norman off my back
I hope he resigns. If you value a private life then don’t scam the public then become a cabinet minister. Laws is hoping he will get away it. I say good riddance. He knew what he did was wrong and knew that if discovered he would bring the government into disrepute. This guy Laws is clearly a self interested trougher and deserve a long spell on the back benches. The public will lose trust in the coalition if the troughing hoon is kept on as a minister.
This allowing thieves to stay on is an agreement to allow them to thieve again and again.You can’t blame the thief for continuing if he is rewarded. Must be the public are so corrupt they re-elect them.
Amazing! Cameron, during his election campaign, was going to immediately clamp down on any of these sort of incidents of dodgy expenses. So what does he do – NOTHING. What is his response to this scandal – NOTHING! The whole lot of them are just hypocrites and sleaze balls, there’s not one honest credible MP in the system – fuck ‘em all. Carry on as before is the new motto.
It’s the same Cameron who said we could have a referendum – so why should we be surprised ?
Calamity says Laws stays. After all Dave is only the PM.
At least he’s not slipping his cock up other mens arses, you dirty thieving little Hunt
He isn’t ????
What a bummer it must be to have got caught when you thought you had got away with it. No shame these people,
I have read that there is a lovely badger sett in Mr Lundies bedroom
As you know brown badgers are intensely private creatures
Leave poor Mr Laws alone, whats wrong with his paying £950 a month to keep his own brown badger?
Can I just say that after many years of being fairly ambivelent about reform of the second Chamber, John Prescot has finally convinced me to abolish the House of Lords.
“Who is James Lundie?”
More to the point, what is James Lundie?
The man in the iron mask.
A Lobbyist it seems. There’s a lot more mileage in this story yet.
Look for the last time, stop getting your knickers in a collective twist The Law is for the Little People like you and NOT for the Great and the Good so move along nothing to see here. !!! Any more of your backchat and Ill be asking to see your TV licence.
That’s right Dave.. bend right over….. knees apart..HuUUUPP!!.. Yeeeesss!!!
now then… GHHHHhhhnn! YOU.. HHrrrRRRmMMm.. WILL…. Eeeeuurrmmm.. ..NOT FfffooomMmfff…. SACK HHhhrrrrrggghhnn!!!… DAVID GRRrrraaaughnnn!!!.. LAWS…
…AAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh….. good!
Now stop wimpering Dave, dry your eyes, get dressed and go and get your Uncle Nick a nice cup of tea. Chop! Chop!
He was paying £920 per month rent (boy!) and on average about £100 a month in utilities (extras).
So, say he was bummed once a day, it works out at just about £35 a bumming.
How much bumming do these arse-bandits actually do? And maybe David Laws pimping out Lundie to Mandelson and all the other Sodomites in parliament – making more money.
Job seekers allowance is less than £70 per week (not even equivalent to 2 bummings)
The tax taken by the government on 50 litres of fuel = 1 bumming
Average income tax is £3,040pa = 36 bummings
NI contributions (emplyee + employer) is £5,050pa = 144 bummings
It sickening to know that tax extorted off the poor is used by the sick evil depraved filth in parliament to pay rent boys for buggery.
it’s a bum deal
I can see some of the inherent benefits of sharia law these days.
shouldn’t even be joked about.
Bad as the current situation is, I’d rather a parliament full of buggerers, thiefs, liars, troughers, etc than a bunch of hypocritical clerical fascists who stone rape victims, adulters and gays to death while forcing us to respect a warlord who we aren’t allowed to draw. Move to Iran if you like the idea of that.
“Declaration of interest – Guido just put £500 on him surviving.”
He’s fucked.
Remember what happened to us
That Irish construction firm that went bust?
That was Sodem and Beggorah
Much obliged yor beastliness!
Brilliant!
What’s all the fuss about?
David Laws was only doing what Liberals do. It’s in our blood.
I’ll whack him for a fee
Great! Here’s what he looks like!
(produces photo of Robert Kilroy-Silk)
Where’s Dave?
GuidoFawkes wrote: “Laws should have known better than to rip the taxpayer off for rent paid to his boyfriend, it doesn’t just look bad, it is bad.”
So if they would have been out of the closet, and Laws would have claimed his share of the mortgage instalments as an expense, which is perfectly legal, it would have been better, even though we are speaking at least the same sum? Or better yet, he could have declared his house in Yeovil as his second home and instead of the claims for housing expenses in London had claimed expenses for its mortgages, which would have been even larger sum, because he was paying them alone. In that case nobody would have been interested in whether his paying rent or mortgage instalments for his London apartment.
Quite so. Nothing to see here. Move along now please.
and if he had joined the circus as a child then none of this would have happened
fuckwit
hypocrite.
there’s one law for you and the laws for me are for me and my kind only
has he been claiming for his political AIDs?
I came here to say Laws should go – if you want to keep your private life private fine, but don’t charge us £40k for the privilege simply not have passed the rent portion of the charges on to us nobody would have necessarily assumed he was gay.
Having said that I’m utterly appalled at a number of the other comments on this site. So many bigots so proud of their bigotry. I think the revolting nature of some of the comments shows why politicians can be reluctant to share their sexuality.
I’m gay and I don’t defend him because he claimed money falsely. Many other would it seems have him hung drawn and quartered just for being gay – truly sickening. In fact I find it amazing that the right who tend to claim (with some justification) that ideologically they aren’t interested in someones personal life where they don’t need to be, take such relish in gobbling up the detail when it’s about sexuality.
no, it’s about the £40,000
For some yes, but if you read many of the comments on here it’s nothing to do with the cash
there are more fag hating bigots out there than you think,get used to it.
Agreed, shocked at the bigotry.
I’m also gay and am equally outraged at what Laws has done – but the anti-gay abuse is disappointing and unnecessary.
Yes how naive of me to think the right had grown up – I will expect less of you/them in the future.
Of course you’ll have to get used to the fact that slowly but surely your point of view is dying out
We are fuckers arn’t we! You never know just what we have on who. One day there you are sitting on QT pontificating about it all and the next your heads on the block. Twats we are and twats we are happy to be.So think on before you go all high and mighty we may have something on you and are waiting and dishing out the rope.Happy politicing suckers
And now that the times is charging, our website is going to have readers as well!
the old hacks still in the know are saying on the quiet that you have a lot of shit to bring out.
The sainted Bill Deedes said that the Telegraph was run by a stinking mob since the Barclays took over.He seems to have had a point.
You’re either in front of david laws or behind him.
(a date in the not far distant future) Arise Lord Laws of rentsboys
We get 40% CGT.
He gets £40k.
You know it makes sense.
I’m gay, and think Laws should go. The bottom line is that he used taxpayer money to bankroll his LibDem lobbyist boyfriend. That’s my money going to someone who shouldn’t have it. End of.
Laws is supposed to be one of those people who is telling us to tighten our belts and get hammered with taxes. The coalition cannot afford to keep him after the election scandal. He is tainted and so is Cameron by keeping him.
Do you think that the bottom line should always result in a good hammering sweetie ?
Sounds like you’ll be rubbing your hands and other bits in glee at the thought! Smacks of total self indulgence,perhaps?
If he had wanted to keep his ‘private life’ private, what the f*ck was he doing standing for election, and even accepting a high-profile government office ?
I have considered standing for public office but, having considered the various skeletons in my own closet (none as colourful as Mr Laws’), I concluded that the risk of their revelation, and the consequences of their revelation, were far too great. Hence I feel unable to offer myself for election.
That is the judgement Mr Laws should have made – whether he followed that process or not, he got it badly wrong. You can’t be in public life if the ‘private you’ cannot be ‘public’ too.
And if he got that simple call wrong, I don’t want him managing my money, however good/smart/clever/bright he may appear on the surface.
Time to go.
Cast-Iron Dave should have fired him immediately if Laws didn’t have the decency to resign. But what do we expect from the Lib-Dems ? We expect more from Dave.
Good bet, Mr Fawkes – ‘cos I expect Cameron and Clegg have also had a flutter.
http://fxbites.blogspot.com/2010/05/one-laws-for-us.html
A ginger haired queer midget
Laws must have done a pretty bad thing in a previous life to get saddled with those three disabilities
Is that the sound of David Cameron I hear? No no.Why not? Is there something about you Dave we should know? You should have made haste to get rid of Laws but you have not.
I’m fuming
I’m yodelling
The door to the closet has clearly been loosened. I wonder who else will fall out? (Simon Hughes is long overdue a tumble, or is he playing the Ted Heath card?)
He was on the phone to me the other night. A mad moment??
Laws and his probing special friend are also members of one of the “chosen” tribes
What a shock
They cant even bugger the goyim unless its financialy
Go fuck yourself you whiny little pretend-nazi pussy
the Rabbi forgot to mention his trade in human organs
“6000 years ! how long must my people suffer?”
David Laws and James Lundie:
Can’t see him staying on now Mr Fawkes. Strange how he can ‘immediately’ pay back the money once found out, but was not prepared to when the rules changed back in 2006 or even at the very height of the ‘scandal’.
Just another fiddler trying to hide his sins.
Clear off Laws, you were found out.
Who broke this story and why?
Is it a taste of things to come and Labour’s idea of constructive opposition, or is it from an enemy of the coalition within the Lib Dems?
Either way, it seems we can expect more of the same.
Does Guido know who broke the story and why?
Can he find out?
Will he tell us?
any chance of some helicopters
Plenty in Yeovil, oh sorry, forgot they sacked half the staff and gave the firm to the Italians. Oh yes, and who is MP for Yeovil?????? DAVID LAWS
Maybe I am missing something here ….
David Laws shares a flat with someone who is owner of said flat in London
David Laws pays rent and share of bills of flat to owner in London
David Laws claims rent and bills back as per his entitlement as an MP
What is the issue? He has to live somewhere … what is the big deal?
Hurrah for a bit of sense! To describe the paying of rent as stealing is nonsense. If he was allowed to claim for the expense of living in London I couldn’t care less if he liked his landlord or not. It was a stupid rule. What if had been in reverse – his house for which he claimed legitimately – and his partner lived with him. Presumably that isn’t against the rules, or are MPs expected to be celibate?
Don’t sack him unless you are prepared to sack everyone who has ever got off a bus without paying their fare.
Right. That’s Cable out, Laws out and Hughes was never in … can anyone spot a pattern here, and for an extra bonus predict who’s next?
It looks like Lib Dem infighting of a particualrly nasty and unpleasant nature.
I think Clegg should “out” whoever is behind it and let the public be their judge.
I have my suspicions, but Guido’s lawyers probably wouldn’t like me to voice them.
“Guido just put £500 on him surviving.”
That’s him fucked then.
The only thing that can save him now is a pompous whiney green ink letter from the gobshite centre. Yopu should get on that if you want to save your money.
“Guido just put £500 on him surviving.”
That’s him fucked then.
With a Monkey? (£500 pounds ) or a Pony? (£25 pounds).
This idea that they werent partners whilst shagging each other ..is a bit hard to swallow : )
That cheeky boy Lembit Opik keeps going on about what if Laws was only doing tantric sex. Could conspirators tell me WTF he’s on about ?
It’s when you substitute talking for action, – and ejaculate ‘internally’ if necessary.
Normally v. long and d r a w n o u t, it’s a bit like HoC.
However, by contrast, it’s suppoed to be very good for you.
Ok thanks. Think I might have tried that myself before fumbling my nocturnal emissions. Sounds very liberal right enough.
Dave – sack him now you spineless twat- he is bringing your new super duper clean govt into complete disrepute. the bloke’s sex life is his choice…but to use it as an excuse to fleece 40 grand of our hard earned is a disgrace. Ps suspect all you MPs have no idea of the meaning hard earned.
Are these bets serious? This guy is toast. We are about to hear about the real cuts – less coppers, teachers and doctors because there’s no money and yet again a trougher is part of the administration telling us this?
Best for the coalition if they wants to keep him?
Smear the leak as coming from dark anti gay homophobic forces in the Labour party. ( hold not -the new politics I think)
Now on the other hand…. what always amazes is that when they get caught they always say ” oh going to pay it back”
Now in my book £40k is a LOT OF MONEY but they always talk it about as if “it’s no problem -let me just run to the cashpoint”
If you can treat £40,000 as the sort of money you can casually lose down the side of the settee and not care about – why bother claiming it in the first place?
Guido…you continue to disappoint me. Laws could have bought a house and furnished it – all at our expense and he would have been completely in the clear. His interest wasn’t in ripping off the taxpayer it was in hiding his private circumstances. Its easy to sneer at him for not coming out but no one knows the reasons why he’s been desperate to hide his sexuality.
He’s good at his job and IMO he should certainly stay.
If privacy is that important to him he should stay out of public life.
Laws is a millionaire. Which makes it even more unforgivable that he’s cheating the tax payer all these years.
But don’t worry. He’ll go back to the City when he’s sacked.
A Mr GB of Fife wrote to me for advice asking
” I understand many people in politics are independently wealthy both before during and after. How can I join them? My income has dropped a lot recently. Help please! My marriage may be at risk”
(Please keep it simple -I have never been good with adding up and taking away and as for long division!)”.
Poor man….
I am wondering if any of the MPs who stood down or lost their seat will hand back the items they purchased to “enable them to do their job”.
Surely the new MPs could make use of the cameras, televisions, laptops that the public purse paid for so that they can “do their job”.
If they don’t return those items then surely they should pay tax on them as a ‘benefit in kind’?
Laws must call a press conference bring along the boyfriend and propose to him live on TV that’s a way out of this
Usually the government include a representative of an “ethnic minority” in any advert or publication. I notice they don’t do it in the benefit fraud ads or anything that portrays a person as “bad”. What a fucking surprise.
I suspect we are going to get a lot of this as when a minister proves he’s upto the job in that they can successfully confront Labour as Laws did in HoC (he even got the better of Skinner who’s only response was “piss off”)
His expenses outing has all of the hallmarks of Noo Labour. Nevertheless he should go if this government are to have any creditability
Laws did not ‘rip the taxpayer off’ – the arrangement saved the taxpayers money.
As to if being legit to pay the money to someone you know, well i do not know. But the payments were for a legitimate service, ie accommodation.
Most certainly this is hugely embarrassing for the LDs – they were making a big thing about being purer than pure. Not a good situation for the country, but not a bad one for the Conservatives.
Personally naked self interest tells me to let the matter rest.
Looks like you’ve just lost £500, Guido.
http://conservativehome.blogs.com/thetorydiary/2010/05/david-laws-has-resigned.html
Guido – Conservativehome are reporting that Laws has resigned. Seems like you lost your money – Ha Ha! .
One is reminded of the time Harold Macmillan was asked what was the most difficult thing about being prime minister his answer was
“Events dear boy… Events”
He’s gone.
The Malton result showed how this coalition is dissipating the LibDem vote, and weakening the Tory vote. The UKIP vote was up due to the disenchantment of Tory voters with the coalition and its protagaonist the Tory candidate, the useless Ann McIntosh. Malton and Thirsk should be the safest Tory seat in the country, and it was a very poor result for the Tories. They should read the figures properly.
I suppose if Laws is going to resign he will want it out of the way before the eurovision song contest comes on
Or before Julie Kirkbride pledges her unswerving support.
Law’s resigned – what a waste!
Typical left-wing hypocritical twisters. No doubt Cameron will support him just like he did the corrupt Julie Kirkbride, who ultimately had to stand down in disgrace. The issue is clear, and it is one of integrity – absolutely nothing to do with homophobia as the gay lobby is trying to suggest. This will also be a test of Cameron`s integrity.
He`s resigned, so Cameron probably did the right thing for once.
Hes resigned ..Guido ..you lose : )
Ha ha f*g ha
whats all the fuss about?
Mmm… how fascinating you seem to find the specifics.
Daisy Dale on bbc now ..kissing his butt …well ..not literally : )
Simple put, whoever you are, whoever you think you are, or what you are, if you cheat the public system, and then find later fame and cheated fortune, expect to be found out.
Politics is a filthy business, no longer suited to the current climate of mud sucking media expose’s.
Expect heavy political losses, on all sides very soon.
Gay or straight, the man cheated. As an openly gay man myself, his closetted political life has now served me no purpose, other than to collectively shame other gay men as a result.
Having been blatantly public opportunist, over private homosexual, please dont espouse the cause at this late stage, or seek to put the blame or pride on us fair paying taxpayers, sunny boy.
[...] Who is James Lundie? Now revealed publicly as David Laws boyfriend, James Lundie is a director at spin-merchants Edelman, he is a former [...] [...]
I do resent paying for Politicians to have sex – whether relatively normal as with those who pay their wives from public funds such as Nigel Farage who pays Kirsten or for this pervert Laws who seems to have wanted to fund a new house for his chum whilst not declaring he was sexually involved with a spin Doctor – what could be more perverse!
I have a feeling this could be David Laws’ best day ever he is completely buggered publicly in political terms – one would hope!
This is what David Laws was doing in our behalf whlist on the fiddle – excuse the pun – from his blog of 21/5/10
I wonder if his driver is unemployed…read on to find out and I love the irony of the last two lined paragraph and the sign off.
This is my first article for the Western Gazette since the last Parliament was dissolved in early April, and a lot of water has flowed under the bridge since then.
So much has happened that my memory is a bit of a blur, and I am left with a series of impressions rather than a detailed sense of time and order. This is not helped by having an average of about 3 hours sleep each night for the last 2 weeks!
What impressions am I left with of the last 6 weeks? Well, firstly, endless knocking on doors in our area, of course, to ask for your support. The kind words of many, and the robust challenges of others. Rain and cold in the early part of the campaign, and sun later. Those Leaders debates, including being with Nick Clegg in Bristol and Birmingham for the second and third occasions. His courage in the face of the huge pressure of these occasions.
What else? Well certainly the count on election night at the Westland’s Centre in Yeovil. The shock at the size of our majority, and my sense of gratitude and responsibility to those who supported me. David Heath winning in Somerton and Frome, and the very gracious speeches by his Conservative and Labour challengers.
Then a car journey back to London, listening to the disappointing Liberal Democrat results from parts of the country. Arriving in London at 6am on Friday morning, and waiting for Nick Clegg to return from his own count in Sheffield. Nick’s speech to rally Party workers on the staircase in Cowley Street – fighting back the disappointment that he expressed to us moments later in the privacy of a side room (“That was the toughest speech of my life”.)
A Hung Parliament. The start of negotiations with the Conservatives in the Cabinet Office – with William Hague, George Osborne, and Oliver Letwin. The media scrum. More TV cameras and “snappers” than I have ever seen before.
Endless negotiations and Party meetings. Meeting the Labour negotiating team – Peter Mandelson, Lord Adonis, Ed Balls, Ed Miliband and Harriet Harman – a divided team with very different agendas.
Watching Gordon Brown resign from a television in the Cabinet office while a helicopter hovered over head, waiting for our negotiations to end.
Lib Dem MPs agreeing to the Coalition document, and my pride in the policies we have agreed, on which we can now deliver in Government.
The call from the Downing Street switchboard: “Would you be able to see the Prime Minister in 30 minutes time?” The journey up 10 Downing Street – meeting Vince Cable in the waiting room. Seeing the PM. Being asked to take on the role of Chief Secretary to the Treasury. Around to the Treasury to meet the Chancellor.
My first decision in the Treasury – axing my chauffeur driven black Jaguar car, to save over £110,000 per year. How could I justify this spending while there is so much to cut?
First Cabinet Meeting. To Buckingham Palace to see the Queen with the entire Cabinet. Kissing hands with the Queen and joining the Privy Council. Second decisions in the Treasury. Blocking plans to cut budgets I think should be safeguarded.
Attending the National Security Council, with the heads of MI5 and MI6 to discuss the most sensitive and secret aspects of national security. My second Cabinet. Meeting with Secretaries of State to agree their budget cuts.
And now, back to write this article for you, my constituents, to whom I am ultimately accountable.
I now have a very big responsibility in Government, and I am conscious of that responsibility every hour of the day. There is a very tough job to do, and I will have to take some unpopular decisions. But I have more chance of getting the right decisions from inside the Government than from the outside. And at least our country now has the stable Government which it needs in these uncertain times.
I am proud of our policy agreement – fairer taxes, restoring the pensions earnings link, a greener Britain, restoring civil liberties, helping the most disadvantaged pupils, cleaning up politics – and I want to help deliver it.
But I also repeat the pledge I made on election night two weeks ago – I will go on trying to serve every member of my constituency in the same way as I have sort to over the last 10 years.
Thank you for the trust which you have placed in me. I will try to deserve that trust over the difficult years to come,
Ever,
David.
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All-in-all, a bad day for the bumders.
Has anyone else noticed that if you dyed Laws’ hauir black and gave him a toothbrush tache. he’s the spit of Hitler.
In a similar vein, it’s about time someone did a Laws’ Downfall on Youtube?
And did the significant other pay tax on the rental income all these years………
and indeed what were the reasons for extending the mortgage on the constituency home, as per the mortgage application form, which was presumably signed under a legal declaration etc etc for the reason given as…..? I’ll bet my (clear conscience) mortgage that the mortgage company doesn’t pursue a complaint, and that any member of the public will be branded phobic under some some hate crime law……
You only have to read about 25% of these comments to realise that homophobia in all its forms (snide innuendo through to outright hatred) is alive and well in this country. And you wonder why David Laws wanted to keep his sexuality private!
We do not like thieves of any sort
There are some sad neanderthal homophobic Hunts posting here.
BTW, I think Laws was a chiselling Hunt who had to go – but that’s no excuse for some of the ignorant shit that’s been posted here, e.g. the following fucktards:
17* Stevie says:
May 29, 2010 at 9:36 am
Not necessarily. The gay lobby is so strong nowadays that he has a good chance of getting away with it.
*Is that your IQ Stevie? Wanker.
You get what you deserve says:
May 29, 2010 at 3:03 pm
I suspect the connections between gays in politics and media are also deep in the church and probably in pedo world too.God we are in a fucking evil time
Not as fucking evil as ignorant turds like you, knucklebrain.
He broke the rules and had to go.
It is a pity because I am sure many would have wanted to see what kind of job he could have done.
I suspect he will be back in about two years.
Hi,
Tom Wise MEP was sentenced to 2 years in November for the theft of a lesser sum of tax payers’ money despite the extensive efforts of people like Nigel Farage MEP, Trevor Colman MEP, Roger Knapman MEP, Mike Natrass MEP in colluding in his crime.
Lindsay Jenkins who assisted him eventually had the charges dropped against her.
Tom Wise served less thana 1/4 of his sentence and was seen out of prison in May.
Was this because he was a politician and they have different rules for politicians so that he can spend the £1/4 Million he amassed in his pension fund in under 5 years!
Why does it seem as if David Laws is remaining as an MP and will not be sent to jail for his criminal theft of tax payers’ money and deliberate dishonesty and corruption in office?
Why are Politicians not expected to obey the law like the rest of us? Is it because so many of them are criminals and corrupt? Lests face it few of them EARN their salary and fiddles and heaven knows they are incredibly easy to replace – just look at all those muppets on the stage with the Returning Officers at elections.
I am sickened by their behaviour whilst they send our young soldiers to die in their illegal wars!
The Party Political structure of the 18th.Century, the solutions of the 19th. Century, the morality of the late 20th. century and the problems cause by parties for the 21st. Century are NO WAY to Govern.
Party Politics has betrayed us and it is time for an INDEPENDENT Leave-the-EU Alliance.
David Laws’ position is utterly indefensible and there is absolutely no justification for keeping liars, theives and charlatans in office yet sending burglars to prison for stealing a couple of thousand at most. If Government has no morals why should they expect morality from the public who employ them?
Regards,
Greg_L-W.
How deep is the LibDem rabbit hole, and on what issues did Lundie ‘advise’ Ashdown and Kennedy. What did Lundie ‘lobby’, and who did he lobby. I assume Lundie also gave Laws a rent book and paid taxes on the income did he? Or did Laws just hand him £950 quid a month without question. What was the purpose of the ‘two’ rooms. Taxpayers have a right to know the answers to these and many other questions including David Cameron’s part in it all as he obviously supports Law too.
Does anyone pay tax on “rent” received by politicians?
JJ Smith’s sister never had toanswer that question.
The Dishonourable Delboy Mister Integrity has gone. He can shag tom-cats for fun if he wants to, but not shagging the taxpayers for 40 grand, do me a favour. He must have known that his little tricks would soon be made public. So why did he take the job in the first place? Arrogance and feeling to be above the law.
I don’t understand why people say both “David Laws is amazingly public-spirited” and “David Laws misused the expense system to enable him to pay his partner £40,000 not out of his, DL’s pocket”. Supposing it had been known that JL was DL’s partner, how would DL have gone about paying him? Has anyone seen anything sensible written about this?