May 28th, 2010

How Much Did You Make Today?

The Taxpayers’ Alliance have released this depressing little video highlighting the fact that from 9am to 1.21pm you are working for the taxman and from 1.21pm to 5pm you finally get to earn some money. Seems the plush new TPA office takes a starring role too:

If people realised just how much they are taxed at every opportunity throughout the day, Guido is convinced there would be more outrage about the daily mugging by the Treasury. A break down of cost and taxes on every receipt would be a very good start. Guido isn’t sure what the timing is in Ireland, but given it’s about eleven now, he hopes you all enjoy the next couple of hours feeding the state…


122 Comments

  1. 1
    Pot Kettle Watch says:

    Who did Private Eye say funded the Taxpayers’ Alliance again ?

    • 8
      Trev says:

      “9am to 1.21pm you are working for the taxman and from 1.21pm to 5pm you finally get to earn some money”

      Easily solved. I’m only working afternoons from now on.

      • 63
        Hung Parliament? Hang 'em all says:

        Fine by me; I didn’t get up until 11:30, and I’m still drinking the morning cup of tea. Now if I can spin that out until my lunch break, I won’t do a stroke of work until copmfortably after 1:21.

      • 85
        Tessa Tickles says:

        That’s my cunning plan, too. The only confusion is 13:21, when we would appear to be working for both the tax-man and ourselves, simultaneously .

    • 35
      Backwoodsman says:

      Not that its relevant, largely by public donation. What is important was that they were the first to show how utterly , criminally, iresponsible , labour had been with the public finances.
      It is only the sanity of a body like the Taxpayers Alliance, that demonstrates how unfit most politicians are for public office, and how closely they must be scrutinised.

    • 54
      Sir William Waad says:

      Doesn’t matter. What it says is true.

    • 75
      Luvvly jubbly says:

      I fink that wrking is for rite idyats. Get yerself dahn the dole ofice and get sam kiddz. That tory geezer sed it right. If ya dont werk then you dont pay nuffin.

  2. 2
    Senator says:

    A good start for more clarity on tax is for the coalition to get rid of the absurd National Insurance scheme and consolidate payments made under it with income tax.

    • 113
      herewegoagain says:

      Er..well we could always use it to start saving up – a Sovereign Wealth Fund for everybody’s old age – oh, sorry, they’ve already spent it.

    • 119
      Anonymous says:

      No no, no no, no! Us mouldy oldies do not pay National Insurance tax so we would suddenly end up paying more tax on our pensions and the paltry interest we receive from our savings. Or will you raise our tax free allowances to compensate us?

  3. 3
    NuAttackDog says:

    well someone needs to fund the chavs

    • 86
      Mr Vindictive says:

      Nooo. I think they should be allowed to wither and die, as nature intended.

  4. 4
    Post-Election Frolics says:

    Not for the taxman. For security to protect war criminal and tax exile Blair when he deigns to visit the country he destroyed. And keep McDoom’s Beard silent. What a joke this country has become. Yet again, Labour has left Britain in tatters.

  5. 5

    Fuck that is depressing – how much extra time will I be working because of that arsehole Gordon Brown over the next few years? All that debt interest….

    I’ve been wondering where Gordon Brown is – and think he has joined as a new member of the 4 Horseman of the Apocalypse – War, Pestilence, Famine Death and now “Ruin”.

    Billy Blofeld

  6. 6
    How much tax does (did) BP pay? says:

  7. 7
    Cassius says:

    Just as well Cassius occupies an Alpine retreat where he gets to keep the money from about the second bite of breakfast museli onwards.

    Never having been known to work as late as 1pm, he would obviously starve in the UK.

    • 38
      Tulkinghorn says:

      And referring to himself in the third person, Tulkinghorn joins the illustrious band of megalomaniacs among whom is numbered none other than our genial host.

      Tulkinghorn arose late this morning, surveyed his grounds in the company of the head gardener, and is now contemplating the most agreeable way of spending his afternoon.

      • 60
        concrete pump says:

        Concrete pump takes a day off work, surveys Guido’s thread and is amazed to read that Tulkinghorn has a ‘head’ gardener, not just a normal gardener.

        Concrete pump is mildly impressed.

        • 70
          Finkelsteins Monster says:

          Finkelstein Monster notes that in his household such a person is usually referred to as either hairdresser or liceman, depending on which part of Mrs FM’s anatomy he is working on

        • 71
          Emily Mateless says:

          Engineer considers the above exchange with some puzzlement. He wonders whether Tulkinghorn has exhibited his cranium in the Chelsea Flower Show, or whether his head gardener is his missus ordering him around again.

          Engineer is however, thoroughly jealous of concrete pump’s day off.

  8. 9
    Mr Rafah Jihad and his 42 relatives says:

    Thanks you for lettings me and my family come here and live for frees! Death to all you infidels! But please givings us more free moneys! Allah akbarrrr!

    • 14
      Angry of Lewisham says:

      Oi! get out of my loft

      • 66
        Council (non-) jobsworth says:

        Racism won’t get you anywhere today; be more welcoming of the enriching that immigration has brought to Britain’s old boring nasty white culture.

  9. 10
    Mylne Karimov says:

    How many hours of the day do you spend getting free education from the state? Getting healed by the state? How many hours a day do you spend under the nuclear umbrella?

    • 17
      Engineer says:

      “The State” does too much, and much of what it does is not done to a high enough standard, and costs too much. Education and health are excellent examples. Too much administration and box-ticking, not enough dedication to doing a high quality job.

      We pay far too much for services that are often poor.

      • 110
        Sir Everard Digby says:

        This is a sham -the state actually does fuck all.What it ‘does’ is bombard us with glossy brochures proclaiming what it has done. Beyond the headllines there is little. The other ‘activity’ is to assault the citizenry with rules and directives. Failure to comply attracts fiscal penalties.

        The third ‘activity’ is to spend money and disseminate it through as many routes as possible,so no-one really figures out how much is being spent.

        Quangos=state money laundering.

    • 25
      I am Sick says:

      State education service is not worthy of the description, National Death Service kills thousands of patients every year and as for the Nuclear deterent, I think you will find that the Americans only have a finger on the trigger, not us. Good game, come back some time when you grow a brain.

    • 45
      Maximus says:

      Your questions, evidently intended rhetorically, ignore the resemblance between taxation and theft.

    • 59
      Sir William Waad says:

      On the same scale, about an hour and a half. Much of the rest goes on transfer payments to people who ought to be working, or is simply pissed up the wall.

    • 90
      Noise says:

      Last I heard the fund was £6k per pupil year, of which £3.3K was absorbed by administration before it reached the school.

      It just appears that procedure and staff renumeration is more important than education. Certainly you never hear kids screaming “WE WANT BETTER RIGHTS FOR HARD WORKING TEACHERS”, you hear them screaming “LEAVE US ALONE YOU EVIL TEACHERS, HATE YOU”

  10. 11
    McCavity hiding in Scotland too gutless to go to State opening says:

    Ha! I just won’t get up until after lunch then. That will fuck em up!

    • 19

      Like your thinking.

    • 26
      Thirsk and Malton. says:

      There’s about five million doing that already that’s why you work the mornings to pay for them.

      • 106
        MonkeyBot 5000 says:

        That’s a complete misrepresentation of the unemployed. Some of them must get up really early judging by the amount of drinking time they’ve put in before they get to the job centre to sign on. It’s that kind of dedication that earns them the right to get their benefits straight away without any questions.

        I used to have to queue for an interrogation because I obviously didn’t need the money as much – you could tell by the way I used to piss my time away getting shaved and putting a shirt on. I was slacking off so much I even had time to shower more than once a quarter!

  11. 12
    The IMF may not be coming says:

    If The Worst Prime Minister in the world ever, was re-elected then by 2012 we would all have to work overtime until 19.30 to pay our taxes

  12. 13
    Michael Read says:

    Bad Al creamed piss-poor Redwood and Hastings last night on QT. Why don’t any of your readers admit it?

    It’s his thing. It’s what he does. And while everyone with half a braincell can disagree with what he says, everyone with half a braincell recognises the talent.

    Redwood is terrific in print. He has absolutely no presentational skill at all. He was a disaster.

    The first rule should be to keep it funny. The second should be not to lose it. Redwood can’t do the first and is cursed with being in a congenital state of apoplexy about something so is never going to make the second.

    Come on, Guido. Shit on all of them. But credit where credit is due.

    • 18
      Pierced Organ says:

      I think you find that in fact I was by far and away the best panellist on the show, in fact probably the best ever in the history of the show.

      I went to a comprehensive school, worked as a journalist, became an editor and now am the most popular person on TV. I support Arsenal and know every celebrity in the world. I am a multi billionaire by the way. Everyone loves me. Not at all sneering.

    • 24
      Engineer says:

      Redwood and Hastings (and Kramer) conducted themselves with dignity, answered the questions and didn’t interrupt other panellists.

      Campbell behaved like a boor, interrupting constantly. His points were shallow and often irrelevant. He spent far too long having a personal argument with Morgan. He sounded like what he is – yesterday’s man, a discredited media whore.

      • 53
        Dont just write it MAKE IT HAPPEN FOR HIM says:

        Which makes Campbell a perfect candidate for Labour leadership!

        • 62
          Engineer says:

          There is a slight logistical snag in that Campbell has never been elected to anything political. However, as Labour ihas not recently been known for allowing the rules to get in the way of what they want to do, bring it on. Campbell as Labour leader would be even funnier than Balls, and make them even more unelectable.

    • 32

      I don’t know what i’m admitting too. What you say is correct.
      Campbell is in the Mandelson class of supershit. Morgan is just behind. Hastings is past it. redwood’s limitations are well known. He is the right’s Gordon. Good on policy, but as likeable as a gang probe.

      Obviously the BBc fancied the Morgan/Campbell Iraq punch up and the coalition made a tactical mistake in not putting up some anti war MP..the Lib dems must have had loads of them.

      Today though, the BBC have run this on all three of their BBC r5 shows. Into its 4th four of coverage. Not sure its THAT big a story. Bigger than the cannibal crossbow bloke and the train bombing

    • 79
      Anonymous says:

      Admiring a low life, malignant b’stard like campbell because he’s good at bullshitting. Hitler on your admire list then? Convoluted, misguided, arrogant thinking

  13. 15
    Genghiz the Kahn says:

    Perhaps it is time to show how much VAT is charged on the price labels.

    Petrol Pumps ought to have labels showing how much is taken in Excise Duty and VAT at the time of purchase.

    Governments like clarity in all transactions except their own.

    • 21
      Senator says:

      Seconded! Okay, none of like paying taxes, but to have to pay them and not realise…

      • 109
        TOO FAR says:

        G the K. What a great idea… same in pubs “eating houses” on every bill. A breakdown on all taxable payments. How much duty/tax you pay to HMG showing what the retailer charges net. MAKE IT SO!!!

        • 114
          herewegoagain says:

          I think we have a campaign here.
          Start with booze and fuel,
          then go on to the tax deducted from savings and investments

  14. 16
    Penfold says:

    All very well and good, but of course if you live in the Labour heartlands the message doesn’t apply to you.

    A damining indictment on taxation.

    So why do those fuckwits running the country want ever more taxes by buggering around with CGT.

    The message is clear, less tax, less social welfare.
    Why we were paying for Shannon Matthews and her 7 kids, by 5 fathers, with the Child Support Agency conspicuous by its abscence.

    Let only the needful be helped, allow charities to do the rest.

  15. 20
    Tax doesn't have to be taxing......... says:

    But it bloody well is!

  16. 22
    Mr Plum says:

    Just filled up my mondeo, £ 65.00 includes £ 10.00 vat.

    What a f—ing Liberty

    Have a good week end

    • 27
      Senator says:

      Fire up the donkey!

      That’s the logic of Labour.

      • 28
        Fair minded says:

        Too bloody true. We’re paying through the nose for what – better roads? Of course potholes are less annoying if you’re Prescott in one of his Jags.

        • 56
          Head Lizard says:

          I was brought back from Bournemouth to Liverpool yesterday in an old Peugeot diesel running on old burger bar oil. It cost about a fiver for filters and the vehicle then returned to Bournemouth using the contents of 3 containers in the boot.Starve the beast chaps.

        • 115
          herewegoagain says:

          If they have their way, my son, they will give away the roads to private companies who will tax you again – sorry charge tolls – and you won’t find that income tax drops as a result…

      • 30
        Green Banana says:

        Replacing cars with donkeys would be more environmentally friendly.

    • 44
      I am Sick says:

      I think you will find with petrol you pay VAT on the fuel tax too. Double bubble!

      • 76
        I got worms. says:

        Well, it is a luxury, after all.

        Feel that luxurious petrol…so comfy.

    • 101
      Fit bloke says:

      I cycled to work today. Costs nowt, thighs like tree trunks. Extra stamina for, errm, the ladies…

    • 117
      Jonathan says:

      Just filled up my Golf – £51.70. Currently averaging 54.46 mpg. Thank you Rudolf Diesel! Oh, and f**k the Labour Party!

  17. 23

    The problem is you get raped one way or another.

    For example the distopia known as Hong Kong, a bloke who earns £26K eqiv in purchasing power, all year ends up paying about £600 in tax + £200 in council taxes.

    Problem is he gets raped with high LVT so rents are bloody expensive and this is reflected in the price of goods and services everywhere. It is highly depressing in HK to see a shop close and the only thing that replaces it is a 7-11 as it is the only thing which can cover the LVT.

    You might have clone towns in the UK, but every single street in HK has a 7-11 or a circle K market.

  18. 29
    Post-Election Frolics says:

    Can someone find the burka clad bitch who stabbed poor old Timms and give her CampHunt’s address? Tell her he’s made of pork.

  19. 33
    Britain has been raped by lefty socialist motherfuckers says:

    To cut the deficit, can we start by deporting all these fucking muzee scroungers who refuse to integrate and refuse to work, and some of whom are planning to kill us? Where does it say this country has an obligation to provide for people who turn up at the airport and claim asylum? The vast majority of them are NOT fleeing war zones and torture, as the likes of Shami Chakrabarti and George Gall-Qaedaway would have you believe. They’re here to enjoy the freedom and benefits of living in the West and get free benefits. The state is terrified of cutting their benefits to force them to work because an army of groups run by lefty fuckers will scream racism on their behalf. Fucking deport the lot of them, the stinking, murderous ragheads.

    • 36
      Wavy Eco-Davy says:

      have you met me and my left wing bestest friends the liberals ?
      they’re lovely and not like those nasty backbench right wing rotters I hate

      • 47
        Theresa May says:

        I agree Dave, those nasty right wing dinosaurs, who want the government to represent their concerns and legitimate expectations, are nothing but nasty bigots.
        Stand firm against the nasty bigots, I say.

  20. 39
    MI5 says:

    Guido

    O/T

    Where are Gordon’s resignation honours ?

    Any news ?

    They will make this blog explode !!

    • 46
      Just stating the obvious says:

      He’s either still dithering or nobody can find him to sign them off before they go to the Honours Committee or there are some names that the Honours Committee don’t like and are refusing to put forward and Gordon is refusing to budge hence stalemate……take your pick of the above scenarios.They should have been published some time ago surely ? unless they’re tryingt o hide them amongst the Queens Birthdaty Honours List due next week ?

    • 51
      Conservacrat says:

      hidden like the foi on the gold sale

    • 99
      Balls should be scrubbed says:

      I suspect honours such as ‘Viscount’ for Prescott won’t receive a warm welcome.

  21. 40
    Gordon Brown says:

    I’m living off my annual pension as former prime minister, and I get the round the clock security too. But I deserve it. I saved the world.

  22. 42
    I hate New Labour says:

    The trouble is, as soon as a sensible tax cutting proposal is mentioned, the screaming lefties start whining about ‘cutting jobs’.

    As if only the state is responsible for job creation…

    You only had to look at the beeb’s response to Tory cuts for the workshy: they dragged out all these poor ne-er do wells and described how they were all going to commit suicide because of the evil coalition. No balance at all in their reporting.

    I hope Cameron shows some backbone and starts taking the blade to the BBC asap.

  23. 49
    Shami Cuntrafarty says:

    You’re all bigots!

  24. 50
    Conservacrat says:

    taxed by mish mash government now,the road to one world is under way

  25. 52
    Anonymous says:

    Another O/T.

    According to Labour web site “Labour membership up by 18,000″

    None of them live in Thirsk then, projected Labour change in vote -11.6%.

    I expect they all live in Morley and Outwood…

    • 78
      Plato Nick says:

      They don’t live in Morley & Outwood, but they’re only a postage stamp away.

    • 82
      streamfisher says:

      I think the Labour backroom boys have been doing some more quantitative easing, just like they did with the postal election votes.

  26. 55
    Sir William Waad says:

    Governments everywhere have an insane and insatiable greed for tax. The answer to every problem is a new tax. They just gotta gotta GOTTA have it. Never mind what it’s spent on. Never mind that they already have far more tax than they know how to spend intelligently. It dazzles! It excites!! WE NEED MORE AND WE NEED IT NOW!!!

    • 94
      streamfisher says:

      But please don’t mention Expenses, this is something entirely different, we get £4,000 up front, no questions asked.

  27. 57
    anonymouse in the Treasury skirting board says:

    this is so much better than tax-freedom day which most people cannot understand.

    “Morning Gordon”, takes on a whole new meaning.

  28. 61
    WILL THE REAL CONSERVATIVES PLEASE STAND UP! says:

    And the “Cammy Knickers” extortion coalition are about to make it much worse.

    WILL THE REAL CONSERVATIVES PLEASE STAND UP!

  29. 65
    David Cameron says:

    Just one each way selection today for my horse racing followers

    2.10 Newcastle

    Move In Time (each way)

  30. 73
    VAT ATTACK says:

    Wait till you see what happens to VAT.
    The rumbling over CGT by the Conservative backbenches will be a light breeze compared to the tornado they will unleash after that get’s announced.

    • 93
      Groucho says:

      VAT up to at least 20% and 250,000 Civil Service jobs to go, according to Michael Portillo at a business dinner a few weeks ago.

  31. 81
    Anonymous says:

    Sorry but that’s shite.

    After lunch everything that Adam earns goes directly into his pocket. To be spent getting pissed up on a Friday evening.

    All the business taxes would, if not charged, NOT go to Adam. They’d go into the fucking pockets of the bosses; Who employ enough specialists to ensure that the business starts earning from 10.00 and the bosses start earning at 8 o’clock.

  32. 83
    George Galloway says:

    This should be the United Arab Kingdom, with full Sharia Law, an Islamic flag flying over Downing Street, and a Muslim cleric as Prime Minister!

    • 97
      albacore says:

      Not long to go.
      The Lib/Lab/Con caretaker Parliaments have been beavering their way through the motions for donkeys’ years.

  33. 87
    Carry On Don't Lose Your Head (1967) says:

    Or to put it another way. If you are a small business employing 10 people, six of the fuckers are working full time to feed the fucking State. So much for New Labour being the party of fairness and aspiration. They are “for the many not the few”? Yeah, they are for the many to slave away for the pleasure of a greedy, wasteful, socialist scam.

  34. 89
    Big Society says:

    I am not exactly sure how much I have made for the troughers today. ; )

  35. 91
    Cannibal says:

    pass me another lefty this one is overdone

  36. 95
    Milksnatcher says:

    Note the ‘Keep Calm and Carry On’ Poster in the meeting room at TPA HQ.

    Designed and produced by the Ministry of Information, paid for by, oh no! the taxpayer.

    Preposterous use of our divine earnings. Disgusting

    • 98

      Actually, it’s a good example of public sector waste. “Keep Calm and Carry On was a propaganda poster produced by the British government in 1939 during the beginning of World War II, but never used.” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keep_Calm_and_Carry_On)

      It took the private sector to rediscover it and bring it to prominence, 60 years after the public sector spent taxpayers’ money designing it!

  37. 100
    albacore says:

    Come, come!
    All this whingeing about our democratically-elected representatives redistributing superfluous wealth which we would only fritter away.
    HMRC is, of course, the jewel in the crown of public service; its staff and computer systems the very models of modern efficiency and effectiveness (that can have been acquired only by bucketsful of blood, sweat and tears spilt in assimilating Cleesian training sessions).
    Try getting a refund out of them.

  38. 102
    Vote Balls says:

    Mark Steyn at his brilliant best on this very subject:

    http://www2.macleans.ca/2010/05/27/were-too-broke-to-be-this-stupid/

  39. 104
    Call me old fashioned says:

    And if you extrapolate from the TPA’s 8 hour working day to a calendar year, we work for our masters until …gulp… 18th July.

  40. 107
    Cato Street Conspirator says:

    The Alliance forgot to mention that while you may be working for the taxman from 9-1.21 you are also working for Mr Boss on this basis from 1.21-4. Where do you think his bloody profit comes from if not from our work? So, on balance, we’d be doing ourselves a big favour if we got rid of the State and the Boss – welcome to the world of Anarchism.

  41. 116
    Sally says:

    I am not sure that statistic is going to make anyone feel great, I heard it based another way…. I can’t remember the date but they worked out the number of the days into the month before you actually made anything after the tax man and the average amount on bills

  42. 120
    Roger Pearse says:

    Surely the key problem is that taxes are not raised for specific purposes? If they were, there would be many fewer opportunities to squander money. As it stands, it all just goes into a huge pot to be used as our masters please.

    I know that the civil servants bleat about hypothecation. But really… wouldn’t it restore a direct connection between taxation and spending? It would remove abominations like the road fund being diverted while the roads collapse.

  43. 121
    El Gordo says:

    I have long believed that petrol station receipts should show fuel, tax and VAT as separate items: this would demonstrate just how cheap petrol really is, once the poncing parasites have taken their share! It must be easy to do – if I buy a paper or chocolate bar, it is already shown as a separate item.

    If VAT is raised, I will be spearheading a campaign of consumer boycott until it is reduced again; BrownStain has done enough damage by loading taxes onto indirect purchases (and Council Tax), which hit the poorest hardest, without CamClegg driving the nail in further!

  44. 122

    And to think I do my best work in the morning as well.



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