April 14th, 2010

Aged Beat Young Tories To Power Station

For Dave and the Cambridge-blue clad Conservative Future kids it was a new dawn yesterday under clear blue skies for their manifesto. However they weren’t up early enough to beat the manifesto launch for Age UK, the new name for the combined Age Concern and Help the Aged. The oldies had earlier this week projected their manifesto demands on Battersea power station, beating the Tories to the political use of the iconic London building. Intergenerational power struggles…


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    I have a problem with Age Concern, Help the Aged and their new incarnation as Age UK. They do bugger-all to help older people. Their local volunteers (often well into their 80s) do some good work. But try to get their HQs to do anything? Not a chance.

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      The Conservative Manifesto in Full says:

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        The choice of Battersea Power Station was truly enlightening and precisely gets Cameron’s message across to us.

        For me and my generation (hope I die before I get old) Battersea will be fondly remembered as a place where pigs can fly. Now we can all imagine pigs flying over Battersea without reference to Roger Waters’ brilliant album cover for Pink Floyd:

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          Would you rather freedom and choice, or shelter from pigs on the wing?

          New Liebour’s vision of the sunny uplands, where tractors are produced by the million according to the five year plan, or the reality, where nothing gets made unless people take control?

          I know which future I’m going to choose – do you?

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          • Mr Ned says:

            Yes, the tories have already failed the “trust” test,
            They do NOT mean it.

            I asked if the people demanded a referendum on MEMBERSHIP of the EU, (Not Lisbon) IF the tories really trust the people and if the people demand a referendum, would you grant one….

            Look at http://www.doyoumeanit.com and see what their response was.

            What is the point of “giving power to the people” when most real power already is in the EU?

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          udderly 'orrible says:

          Here’s the pig who should fly …
          src=”/http://www.spectator.co.uk/article_images/articledir_11820/5910198/1_fullsize.jpg”

          This maximum McNonCompusmentis now agrees he DID cause the bank crisis and global meltdown, so where is the sharp lawyer who will take Gargoyle to court for 2 trillion pounds in damages the rest of us have to pay for this criminal recklessness?

          http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/election/article-1265824/Brown-admits-I-reigned-reckless-banks.html

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          Two taxis for Brown in case one breaks down says:

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        jgm2 says:

        Shame they can’t spell ‘because’.

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        TheDevineOne says:

        Go go Age Concern, we’re all wild cats together, behind you for the party, yeah!

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      Sir Reginald Titbrain says:

      Someone I am loosely connected with works for them and the local honcho spends much of his time and their money wining and dining and achieves little.

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        Soylent Green says:

        You don’t actually think they do things like caring for old people do you ? They stopped that nonsense years ago, now it’s all about “lobbying” and ensuring that the directors are paid enough to make a Premier League footballer blush, Jim Devine et al can teach them nothing about filling expense forms.

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          Hahahha!!! you dirty old bastard by Allah’s socks! Hhehhe!! (Peess be upon him)

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          Some of our major charities are the successors to the monasteries. Corrupt, lazy, stuffed with money and still collecting more because the gullible put their pennies in, honestly believing that this will buy their souls in to heaven.

          We’ve got huge debts and should look at an emergency re-frame of charity laws to allow us to re-direct this money to where the benefactors intended: i.e. to help children, old people, the sick, a number of animals and conservation organizations. Lobbying organizations for distressed ex-MPs can pay their own way.

          Cardinal Wolsey did it when he wanted to set up his college, re-directing money from legacies and declining churches to his purpose. Henry VIII simply followed the instructions Wolsey had laid down, using Wolsey’s own servant Cromwell to do the job on a bigger scale.

          We can have a look at what the National Trust have got stacked up, too.

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          • jgm2 says:

            The National Trust got all their properties the same way Labour will try and pay off their monumental national debt.

            Twisted up death duty to 90% and then forced the beneficiaries to hand ‘em over. Of course the great tragedy is that rather than hand ‘em over most families simply burned them to the ground hence we lost 80% of the fine homes of Britain.

            That’s what Labour fuckwittistas don’t realise. Folk will burn their houses to the ground before they hand ‘em over. Likewise people will quit or flee the country before they’ll pay 50% tax. That notional money just isn’t there.

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          • Unsworth says:

            As jgm2 says, Insure and Burn. Has to be the more profitable option – even after the Revenue Men have had their cut. Just make sure you’ve got about a year’s premiums paid before getting the Kerosene out.

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          • Mdme Defarge says:

            You only have to look at the Climate Change fraud. The IPCC report didn’t produce science it was based on unscientific reports from most of the enivronmental charities. These charities are now run by the left and they are political not environmental in outlook.
            The RSPCA is the same I used to donate to them but have stopped and give to smaller aniomal based charities.
            Although some of these are agressive too. Last year we sent a donation to a hospice following the death of a close relative. It was a sizeable amount and we sent a letter explaining it was a one off donation with no strings as to its use.
            Within 24 hours they were hitting us with calls can you do more…will you give more…etc etc. MOH in particular was pretty hacked off with it. We know they need money to carry on but hassling people doesn’t enamour you of them.

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          Unsworth says:

          Mr Green,

          Yes, precisely. Lobbying is the game – full stop.

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      Anonymous says:

      Having recently lost both parents in the hands of the NHS. I am now fully aware that the prevailing attitude of staff is that they are old, so what?

      Even worse is the level of nursing care and attention to comfort, hygiene and pain. A visit to hospital for an old person is an awful experience and in the case of my parents it resulted in hospital derived infections and ultimately death. If you are old and ill then the last place you should be is in an NHS hospital and their geriatric wards in particular.

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        Anonymous says:

        Went through the same experience with a parent this time last year.

        Almost last words were “Don’t let me go back into the hospital”

        Care? They don’t know the meaning of the word, maybe because there’s no target for it.

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          jgm2 says:

          I bet the place was packed with folk carrying clipboards though. All rushing about, busy, busy, busy.

          Nobody with the time to fetch or empty a bed-pan though.

          Fuck no.

          Seen it with the mother-in-law last year. She was mobile (just) but she’d tell you the staff would leave folk for well over half an hour before showing up to answer a bed-pan call. And then leave you sitting in the fucking thing stinking the ward out for another hour or more.

          Plus (it turns out from X-rays) they didn’t set her leg straight so she now has a limp (I have my doubts on that to be fair – she’s almost 80 and bust her hip – of course she has a fucking limp) – although you never know if that’s the dodgy builder syndrome transferred across to radiographers. ‘Gaaaaaah, whoever did this was a right cowboy…’

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          • Unsworth says:

            Yep, Third World NHS is where we are at.

            Daughter had to go to the Medway Hopital. Truly dreadful Reception area – congealing blood on some of the seats, dirt everywhere, paint peeling, TV blaring away on the wall like the local Chinese take-away, and ‘reading’ materials scattered on the floor. On balance the standards of hygiene are rather better at the Chinese – as are the reading materials.

            Then (eventually) to X-ray, finally she gets to have her ankle (ligaments damaged only, mercifully) plastered by a Filipino girl who may or may not have been qualified as a nurse – who could tell?

            Worst piece of plastering I’ve seen – could’ve done better with a hawk and trowel myself. Plaster on far too tight. Within a few hours daughter’s toes are turning blue.

            Knowing (as, fortunately, I do) the posssibility of gangrene, loss of foot etc arising from such cack-handed work I took said daughter to the local (formerly cottage) hospital. Plaster was removed, ankle supported with strapping, job done. Quote ‘truly awful plastering, you should complain’ etc etc. What’s the point of that? Do these ‘hospitals’ (I use the term in its broadest sense) work on the basis of waiting for complaints to rise to ‘unacceptable levels’ and then ‘holding an Inquiry’? I guess they do.

            Who is checking these people’s work? Where’s the heirarchy? Who is bollocking the Filipino? Who is ensuring that these people are really capable – not just ‘qualified’?

            Yet Brown has poured vast amounts of cash into the NHS. Where’s it all gone? We have loads of consultants, new buildings, new ‘managers’, new fucking everything – except competence, care and professionalism.

            How much does competence, care and professionalism actually cost – can you buy it? If so, why hasn’t Brown been buying that instead of all the new real estate?

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          • jgm2 says:

            The M-I-L is not somebody who basks in the new multicultural vibrancy of the UK but she did say that the only guy who seemed to show any effort was in fact some black bloke from Somalia or Kenya or some fucking place.

            It’s not (purely) the dodgily certified imports that are the problem. It’s the newly qualified native’ nurses’ who, in their three year, class-based, nursing degree courses never learn the basic skills of nursing at all. Although they can probably bang out a cut’n’pasted essay on cultural diversity in the work-place.

            I know girls of my age who did the whole fucking thing at St Thomas’s and they were working 12 hour shifts, changing bed-pans and such-like at aged 18 to get their qualifications.

            Nursing qualifications have gone the same way as every other qualification. Nice, modular tick-box exercises and a shiny certificate at the end, that’ll be 20K please.

            Plus now they’ve got a degree they’re not going to be mopping up shit. Get some agency nurse from Sri Lanka in at 400 quid a shift to do that.

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          Anonymous says:

          I strongly suspect there is an unspoken policy of euthanasia operating in NHS hospitals. In Labour’s new Britain, there’s no place for old, pre-Windrush white people.

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          • The Beast of Clerkenwell says:

            Its called DNR
            Do not resuscitate,look at the notes on the end of an elderley relative/friends bed and look for it , then if you see it go fucking bonkers as I did .
            The fat arsed fuckers known as nurses soon change their minds when confronted by a large articulate male.
            A friend is a Dr in Malaysia, they also do it there

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        Mdme Defarge says:

        That is what happened to both my parents. Mum went in with broken leg and never came out. It wasn’t the doctors it was definitely the quality of nursing care. I used to read her notes and they were ticking all the boxes to say they had seen her etc but I know that’s all it was…box ticking.
        She was left unchanged and I had several run ins with the staff over such as an empty plasma bottle that ran out at lunch when I visited and was still unchanged at evening visiting – weekends are the worst in hospitals just no staff.
        This was one of those PFI hospitals run by SERCO. as for the food – it was utterly disgusting. I was told it was made at an industrial unit in South Wales. Must be the cheapest they could do. If they can’t afford to put on decent food they should perhaps make a modest charge as most people can afford to do so and would do quite willingly for something good. Those on benefits could still get them free.
        My brother and I went to take her out and nurse her at home with her GP and the nursing team but her condition had deteriorated so much we were too late. There isn’t a day goes by that I don’t bitterly regret taking her out while she still had a fighting chance.

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          - says:

          Manchester is the other named source of food which is said to be only warmed up when it gets to hospital because it is cheaper than being cooked on premises.
          It also has less spent per meal than prisoners get in prison.
          Another case of penny wise pound foolish.

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      The Beast of Clerkenwell says:

      They pay to advertise here, thats enough

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    Em says:

    Guido. Have you seen more Labour City Council Leaders seem to be getting in trouble for dodgy behaviour.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/8619019.stm

    Drugs, domestic violence…whatever next??

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    Neil says:

    Age UK are bizarre, never understood what they did – did some fundraising for Help the Aged years ago, but got really pissed that the cash never seemed to get back to the front line.

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    Brown's a Tosser says:

    OT – Michael Gove was very good in his newsnight interview with Paxo. He answered every question and was on point unlike NuLabour who if you notice never answer a question.

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      awww bless says:

      it’s Oiky Goves mum

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      I was actually impressed with Gove, for the first time ever – he’s always struck me as slightly dim before, but he managed to quiet Paxo and get his points across pretty well.

      He’s still a fucking gargoyle, though…

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        Silver Jackass says:

        Your final sentence ridicules you not Gove.

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          I am perfectly happy to be ridiculed, but that does not make Gove any more photogenic, does it?

          My major beef with him is over the mosque opposite Sandhurst, but then again you wouldn’t know that he was the last of all the candidates to speak out, for fear of upsetting the massive Bengali community in Camberley (sarcasm intended).

          If it makes you happy, I am a portly bald beardy 40-something, and not much more appealing than Gove, but then again I don’t do television, so can only be mocked by my peers.

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          • Unsworth says:

            Two points:

            1) Being portly etc etc is possibly rectifiable – depending on what one might regard as ‘attractive’.

            2) Doing TV doesn’t necessitate being photogenic, surely? If so, we’d better close down 99% of the Channels. I mean, some of the people on there – e.g. the entire Labour front bench – and most of the back benchers, too – are fucking ugly by anyone’s standards.

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        Anonymous says:

        Paragnostic @ 31- I was even more impressed with Andrew Neil & his demolition of Tessa Jowell on yesterday’s Daily Politics.

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    Soylent Green says:

    Age UK please give me a call.

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    AC1 says:

    Age UK = Extort and enslave their own children.

    Sickening.

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    Snap says:

    Could have been worse. They could have played “I’ve got the Power” ….

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      get with the program says:

      He was a Labour member though. Thinking ahead.
      He took out a loan against his future generations kids teeth, all the pound coins from over 10,000 teeth, taking into account future Labour inflation.

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    I hate Jonah McDoom says:

    I wonder how many different medications they’ll stuff Gordon with to help him through his nerves before the debate. If Cameron prepares properly, he’ll slaughter Brown and leave him exposed to the whole country as a shambles. Push all the right buttons and he might he even get Jonah to blow his top on TV.

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      Anonymous says:

      I think your crediting Cameron with someone who has conviction and a burning fire in his belly , to right the wrongs which have been foistered upon us by The Za Nu Piss Flap Party…not the mild mannered dopey cnut he really is.Camerons gonna get buggered on national tv.Clegg n Ruin will not play by the rules they’ll just spout propaganda and the dopey cnut Dave will let them stitch him up without a word in his own defence.Get used to it folks Daves too much of a gentleman to roll his sleeves up and wipe the floor with these muppets.

      Although I will add the caveat that maybe Daves private polling tells him he going to be PM anyway and he doesn’t feel the need to fight.Either that or I’m right he’s a dopey cnut.Time will tell.

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        I hate Jonah McDoom says:

        You’ve obviously not watched Cameron at PMQs. He’s often stuck the knife in. Just a couple of weeks ago at the Budget, he made a joke which made McDoom lose his temper. He’s made plenty of caustic jokes about the bullying stories, the flying printers and phones, the secretary being shoved etc, all of which made Brown look furious. Cameron knows it’s too late in the day to play nice. Labour have been doing dirty tricks already and he needs to use the debate as an opportunity to expose Brown’s personality flaws.

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    Pissed off pensioner says:

    1 thats new

    I agree Help the Aged is just another lobbying outfit which takes the government shilling to expound government policies

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    Abu bin-Abu says:

    I votes for the Labours! They gives me and my 14 children free moneys!

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    Help The Aged, you must be joking, ungrateful lot of Biddies says:

    Shall we have a nice cup of tea…………….??

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    I hate Jonah McDoom says:

    Old people do fuck all except moan, buy shortbread biscuits and watch Countdown.

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    Lord Carrington's Binoculars says:

    Age UK? Fuck me, another fucking hard-left, lobby-driven bunch of ‘campaigning’ crap.

    RSPCA – uniforms, demanding entry to people’s homes. private prosecutions

    RSBP – campaigning for wind turbines and ‘re-introducing’ eagles to East Anglia after 600 odd years.

    ‘In 2007, Help the Aged launched intune group, a new financial services brand. The service exists as a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Charity…’

    ‘Corse it did. How else to fund the massive salary bill?

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    Apagusta says:

    Apagusta says:
    April 14, 2010 at 3:34 am

    Whilst the potential of telling the EU to shove it has some appeal the reality of the Tories ever doing it at this election has never been a realistic starter.

    In the current climate Labour would have loved to have that undertaking to twist to their own ends to a point where it would have been game over despite their terrible record.

    Voting for UkIP will help re-elect Labour for sure as will voting Libdem.

    In 2010 pragmatism is the only reality of today’s politics in Britain. The Tories can only take the EU agenda on step by step…it is totally unrealistic to expect otherwise.

    The choice is vote Tory and get some new rules of public engagement and the sure knowledge that Cameron and Hague have the EU in their sights and under very serious watch OR wake up to Gordon for 5 years on May the 7th.

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      Down Periscope says:

      Agree. The conservatives thinking of voting UKIP are plying a selfish game. They know it is a wasted vote. The way the political system is we have only one choice getting rid of Brown. Does the country deserve another 5 years of this cretin? No. Give the Cameron man a chance.

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      • 53
        The people says:

        Vote Conservative in the general election, vote Monster Raving Loony in the local elections – it’s the only way to get our message across.

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      A vote for UKIP is a vote for Conservatives. says:

      Crap. Dave losing the election will force the Tories to elect a Conservative as their leader. A vote for UKIP is instrumental in returning the Tory party back into the hands of the Conservatives.

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        Don’t worry – either the next bunch of fools will have to tell the EU to fuck right off, or their successors will.

        It’s inevitable – but would you rather waste more or less of your taxws in the interim?

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          From double digit, to losing it says:

          Hmm, Dave tells Tories who are Conservative to piss off, adopts all the leftist “progressive” mantras, calls people who find his eco loonery, hug a hoodie, cast iron promise breaking, muslim appeasing, socialist adopting pc, distastful, Dinasours and that the Conservatives are the new force for the “progressive” shite we have had rammed down our throats for the last decade.
          Then you call Conservatives, who do not much like what the Tory party has become and are looking elsewhere “selfish”.
          You and your type are as bad as Brown scum, fearmongering cowards and bullies, trying desperately to cajole, threaten and browbeat anyone who has had enough, back into the rotted fold.
          Well you may thrash around looking to scapegoat those driven away from the Tories by Cameron`s obsession with courting the left, but at the end of the day, the only person who is responsible for the situation now, is Cameron himself and his pathetic advisors.

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        UKIP if you want to mate says:

        “A vote for UKIP is instrumental in returning the Tory party back into the hands of the Conservatives…….”

        Get real… and come into the 21st century…..a Tory Party lurching to the right is UNELECTABLE. Dave and Co lose the election and the Conservative Party is finished electorally and will go the way of the Liberals in the early 20th century and the SDP in the 80’s. Vote UKIP means you will deliver the left power for quite a long time if not forever

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          Nowt wrong with being RIGHT says:

          “a Tory Party lurching to the right is UNELECTABLE.”

          Tell that to Margret Thatcher or Tony Blair, two of the most Right Wing leaders this country has seen.

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          All-female selection lists R Us says:

          a Tory Party lurching to the right is UNELECTABLE

          It strikes me that there isn’t a Tory Party, there’s a Dave Cameron Appreciation Society and judging by the polls, it’s unelectable.

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    Here’s one for jgm2 when he wakes up – Brassens was one of Thackray’s main influences, and this is a song about c’unts. It is in French, however – but then again, we who were educated before 1997 can probably cope.

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      All-female selection lists R Us says:

      And yet Dave can find only £12bn of annual savings.

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        Mdme Defarge says:

        He’ll find more just you wait and see. As other posters have said he has to get elected first…and look at the books and the real state of, well, everything.

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    Oh and by the way says:

    Mr Brown said: “In the 1990s, the banks, they all came to us and said, ‘Look, we don’t want to be regulated, we want to be free of regulation’.”
    “All the complaints I was getting from people was, ‘Look you’re regulating them too much’. And actually the truth is that globally and nationally we should have been regulating them more,” he added.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8618974.stm

    Oh so that’s Ok then. Didn’t he say that it all started in America??????? The prat now admits he was too weak to stand up for the public good and put in place laws that would have stopped American Banks coming to London and laundering their sub prime loans through a deregulated system that he was responsible for.

    Twat Twat Twat Twat Twat Twat Twat

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    • 39
      Our unelected, rattled, pants-shitting Prime Mingister says:

      Look, I’m trying to head-off a line of attack in advance of the TV ‘debate’.

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      Lil Olmey says:

      Brown said that ? Jonah ? I need to sit down.
      This has been bleedin’ obvious since he gerrymandered his way to power. He’s meddled and f**ked up every damned thing he’s touched, but the finance ‘industry’, the one area he should have controlled, has been left to run amok.

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    Francis Futurama says:

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article7096692.ece

    “Lord Gould of Brookwood, Tony Blair’s pollster who has returned to the fray for this election, used an interview with Progress magazine to suggest that the real division was no longer between Labour and the Conservatives. “It’s between politics and anti-politics. The dominant mood is anti-political. That is what runs over everything.” ”

    Suggested tag: The Guidoisation of Politics?

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    RavingMad says:

    so the Times is saying that because the polls are closing that the people want a hung parliament.

    The only hung parliament I want is one with ropes and gallows for the lot of them, including senior civil servants and quangoes

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      LibLabConpact says:

      Judging by Dave’s Manifesto it looks like Dave wants a hung parliament too.

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      Lanchester Daily News says:

      However the polls in Midlands give Con 40% and Labour 28% and the predicted swing to the Tories is considerably higher than elsewhere in the UK so there are lot of Labour marginals on small majorities that will go Conservative as a resut. The region has been one of the worse affected by the recession and it still is and is a major decider in the forthcoming election

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    Dave's cunning plan unravels says:

    Radio 4 sent a reporter around Brum asking the public if they thought Dave’s idea that locals could take charge of their school was a good one. They all said Yes. She then asked if they were prepared to run the school. They all said no (too busy, not qualified, not interested, etc), let the professionals do it.

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      Oh and by the way says:

      None of the brain dead dummies that were interviewed would have the intellect to do what was necessary. This volunteering vision of the future is a smoke screen for cutting public spending.

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        Bollocks.

        All of those interviewed were at least as well qualified as the overpaid nonentity that currently runs education in their area – they think of themselves as lesser people because that is what the Liebour state has told them for years.

        What does it take to run a school, for fuck’s sake?

        So long as you are reasonably bright, care about your children and the future of yours and others, and aren’t a religious nutter – you and your friends can and should set up a school if the state is failing in your area.

        The role of government in all this is to remove the administrative blockades that have been put in place by the Labour statists – to allow local schools for local people (you can have the shiny things of the shop if you like, but the special sausages are only to be made from Labour piggies…).

        Cameroon really surprised me yesterday – he gave me something I could believe in and vote for. Whether he delivers is another question – personally, I’m inclined to trust him, but then again I am a gullible, idealist Methodist, so don’t take my word for it.

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          Oh and by the way says:

          Not bollocks. The idea that some illiterate could do this is crap. That is not to say that some will want to interfere and attempt to do it. What would happen is that the Head Teacher’s position and power would be unassailable and that is not a good thing as power in the wrong hands is abused.

          What could happen and I am in agreement as far as this is concerned that where parents can and will take over these schools then there may be a better adjustment as the entry catchment area and good schools will take in local children and not those that play the system.

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          • Most of those who currently run the education system are illiterate or hadn’t you noticed the decline in the standards of English language at university level?

            ‘power in the wrong hands is abused’

            It sounds like you do not trust your fellow citizens to decide on their childrens’ future – who are you to say that? Are you one of the ‘vanguard of the revolution’?

            Of course power in the wrong hands can be abused, but decentralisation will mean that there are more hands, and thus less danger of abuse. Local involvement will also make it easier to remove those who abuse their position, rather than the bureaucratic cover-ups that are the current vogue.

            You seem to be the worst kind of socialist – an elitist, ignorant twat.

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          • The Governor says:

            Under new Labour, some of the main skills required to run a school have been an encyclopedic knowledge of whatever non-recurring grants are currently being “rolled out” to those who get their applications in in time and a creative ability to characterise the school’s population in a way that ticks the boxes on the application forms. This has become a full-time job.

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          Anonymous says:

          “Paragnostic Methodist”- surely an oxymoron?

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    Moley says:

    A voters guide.

    The BBC and the Labour Party has successfully pushed politics one step left in this country. The Parties need renaming.

    Labour has succeeded in destroying the Conservative Party as it was; and it is now something else, (even Cameron admits to that).

    The Conservatives have become the Liberal Democrat Party.

    The Liberal Democrats have been pushed leftwards as well and now find themselves where Labour once was.

    The Liberal Democrats have become the Labour Party.

    The Labour Party, driven by the Communists within it and the failure of statism to work has gone for more and more centralisation, media control and suppression of dissent.

    What was the Labour Party is now the Communist Party.

    If in the past you thought of yourself as Conservative or Liberal Democrat; Vote Conservative.

    If in the past you thought of yourself as Labour; Vote Liberal Democrat.

    If in the past you thought of yourself as Communist, Trotskyite, Marxist, or Socialist Worker; Vote Labour.

    The centrists in the Labour Party will go elsewhere, it is the money that talks and the money is Communist, Union money.

    The unions are like a Terminator built by the former Soviet Power; they are totally focused on destruction of jobs and businesses. They do not have anything within them capable of building a better society. The Conservatives would do well to consider starting their own unions.

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      Moley says:

      Aside to Guido;

      Sorry it’s off topic, but is something that has only become clear to me recently.
      You are welcome to use it yourself as one of today’s posts to see if the commentariat agree.

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      Oh and by the way says:

      Moley you have missed out the UKIP. With their positioning yesterday as supporting genuine Eurosceptic PPC’s / MP’s you could argue that they are the new Conservative, or at least the new Right.

      It also strikes me that if they continue to support Eurosceptics as opposed to fighting them for the same vote then there is a possibility that they could split Conservatives in two and possibly overtake them as there are Eurosceptics across the political spectrum.

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        Grumpy Old Man says:

        Could the UKIP be attempting to position themselves as a respectable, responsible party of the Right? They are still a single issue party with off-the -shelf policies to cover other areas. In fact. what they are advocating is a form of swing-voting with no discernible short-term advantage, as Dave will not, in the foreseeable future, agree to a rapprochement with a party mainly made up of those he has alienated from the Tories.

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  24. 66
    jgm2 says:

    OT

    Tory Bear sighting at Westminster tube station yesterday around one in the afternoon.

    He had a horribly hunted look about him.

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  25. 76
    nearly says:

    O/T
    Whistle Blower Comes Forward With Solid Proof The Price Of Gold And Silver Is Being Manipulated By Major Financial Institutions

    http://www.inteldaily.com/2010/04/gold-manipulation/

    hmmmm…

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  26. 101

    Thanks for the information. There seems to be a never ending supply of great information on the net. I love learning new stuff, and will be back to read your posts regularly !! Thanks again

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