April 13th, 2010

Clegg Will Be the Big Winner of the TV Debates

All credit to Nick Clegg for braving Paxman and coming through unscathed. Tim Montgomerie is advising Dave to duck Paxman and the chances of Gordon Brown finding the courage to endure a grilling are even more remote. The bookies currently make Cameron favourite to win the TV debate and the consensus of the commentariat is that he is a superior performer in the manner of Blair. What this interview shows is that if Clegg overcomes his tendency to waffle, he is no slouch either.

Dave has everything to lose, he is ahead in the polls, expectations are high, he is the superior debater, time and time again he has bloodied Brown’s nose at PMQs.  What the chancellor’s debate showed is that the guy in the middle, the LibDem, can do very well.  Clegg will be accorded equal status with the major party leaders, equal billing and equal time.

Clegg’s policy of equi-distant faux-neutrality shouldn’t be allowed to survive the debate night. He needs to say clearly what his rules of engagement will be in the event of a hung parliament. Logically his party should deal with the party with the most votes, not the most seats.  Since he is always telling us how unfair the first-past-the-post is, if he were to support a party with fewer votes in exchange for say, electoral reform, the voters might be entitled to think he was acting cynically out of party interest rather than reflecting the will of most of the people.   The LibDems wouldn’t do that, would they?


232 Comments

  1. 1
    Matt says:

    It probably wasn’t too smart of Gordon to attack one of the hosts of the debates yesterday as well. His sniping at Adam Boulton seems ill-advised.

    • 3
      Critic says:

      I thnk you are wrong guido. Clegg was on the telly this morning with another live 7.30 AM speech(must be the Lib Dems new tactic to get Telly time) and he was just awful.

      • 6
        Mr Ned says:

        Yeah, but in the debate he will be able to lie with impunity, promise anything and everything without ever needing to deliver and will look popular by attacking the other two.

        The Lib Dems have nothing to lose from this debate.

        I just wish UKIP had been allowed to attend, after all, Lord Pearson has just as much chance of being PM after May 6th as Nick Clegg! That way we would have seen an alternative to liblabcon’s agenda for the Europisation of Britain.

        • 17
          sockpuppet #4 says:

          “lie with impunity, promise anything and everything without ever needing to deliver and will look popular by attacking the other two”

          That pretty much covers all the parties. Unless those flying hippies are still standing (errr sitting crosslegged)

          • Mr Ned says:

            I miss the natural law party, they were really funny!

          • sockpuppet #4 says:

            I just looked up natural law party. defunct.

            Their suggestions for economic improvements look more sensible, practical and realistic than what anyone else suggests. Oh, apart from the SNP, who say “a hung parliment mean more backroom politcal deals and more subsidy for us”.

          • yawn, let's copy the American debate spin crap. No, lets fucking not says:

            please!
            not this managing expectations bullshit for fuck’s sake
            only contemptable party drones engage in that dishonest horseshit

            we’ll watch the debate and decide on the night and if the Party spinners don’t like that well they can just go fuck themselves can’t they

        • 195
          God Forbid says:

          The power behind the power would never allow a party they can’t control and that calls the big three corrupt thieves a platform on prime time TV

      • 29
        Up sh1t creek says:

        Andrew Neil had a big open goal and laid into Nick Clegg in yesterday’s (12/4/10) press conference, and Clegg didn’t come out well.

      • 31
        SazzQ says:

        Totally agree, last night I wasn’t expecting much from Clegg and let’s say he well and truly lived up to it. This morning he looked as if he had been up all night; stumbling over his words, stalling mid sentence, an unpolished performance.

        • 52
          can i borrow 1/2 billion a week asks Labour says:

          bit like Darling last night when Bolton and Randell pulled him up over Debt and deficit looked like he was loosing his false teeth when he started mumbling.
          My missus said hes lying well she should know married to me.

      • 203
        Rick Nobinson says:

        I agree, his performance last night with Paxman was dire. Clegg was excruciating and got totally stuck on the “raise VAT” issue as well as failing to answer the question of who he would work with, or not, in a hung parliament.

        Irrelevant really as there isn’t going to be anything hung (shame) – come on you blues!

      • 217
        Roy Simpson says:

        Clegg’s amnesty policy for illegal immigrants, as outlined to Paxman – for those here over ten years and those who have not a criminal conviction – is nonsense.

        1) Any illegal charged would certainly become identified as an illegal immigrant and would presumably already have been deported (or allowed to stay).

        2) Given that there would be no record of illegal entrant into the UK, how would they identify how long an illegal had been in the country.

        I believe that their real policy is a blanket amnesty for all. We are being conned.

    • 4
      Just asking ? says:

      Isn’t there some mutual personal dislike between the two of them anyway and especially between Brown and Boulton’s wife, Anji Hunter over the way Brown caused friction as Chancellor in his constant undermining of Blair when he was PM ?

    • 17
      Waste of Telly Tax says:

      How come the BBC can afford the whole floor of a High Rise building to film a chat between just two people?

    • 19
      Up sh1t creek says:

      We’re now waiting for the Lib Dem’s campaign…. but this will do for now.

    • 192
  2. 2
    boulay says:

    “What this interview shows is that if Clegg overcomes his tendency to waffle, he is no slouch either.”

    but that is going to be his problem in the tv debates. he is going to look like the two-timing girlfriend who is trying to explain to her chaps who she really likes more.

    everything he says will be immediately questioned by brown and cameron and the viewers will see that lib dem “policy” is basically to say everything to everyone and hope that the two different sides ever meet to compare notes!

    he will be spinning and flip-flopping so much that it will look like some dance-act on x-factor.

    • 115
      Susie says:

      Clegg’s situation in a nutshell… but he’s forgotten to tell us he’s been secretly engaged to one of the parties since the Labour Party conference 6 months ago, for fear we’ll disinherit him. It’s almost like the plot of a Jane Austen novel.

      • 148
        Brown's a Tosser says:

        Given the state of the Liberal marginals you would expect them to be guns blazing at the Labour party. But no they attack the Tories which makes no sense. Its clear something is a foot between Lab/LimpDem. It is becoming very clear a vote for Lib Dem is a vote for five more years of Gordon Brown.

    • 125
      Kit says:

      So far all I’ve seen them do is to say, for the popular policies, the other parties will do the right thing for the wrong reasons.

    • 158
      Moley says:

      One needs to remember that that the Lib Dems absorbed the SDP which was a Blair type/ Centre Socialist Party.

      There was a time in the not too distant past when Labour was in the centre and the Lib Dems had positioned themselves to the left of Labour.

      It should be socialism that is on trial along with labour, and their needs to be a recognition that Labour are not the only proponents of socialism, the Lib Dems are signed up supporters too.

      My fear is that a Labour Lib Dem coalition would change the voting system to favour its views and socialism would become entrenched in Britain permanently, in spite of the fact that there is overwhelming evidence that it is not a political system which benefits anybody except the politicians and party members.

      There needs to be more publicity about how the Labour politicians have feathered their nest while the parameters which measure the success of socialism, such as child poverty and inequality, have all moved in the wrong direction.

      The system to which labour and the Lib Dems are signed up does not work. That is the important message of this campaign.

      • 229
        The ghost of Adam Smith says:

        The sad state of affairs is illustrated when tax cuts are always presented and understood to be the government giving money to people….what about giving people back their money to do as they wish? Cameron is onto something when he talks about individual liberty, he just needs to extend that to economic liberty. Things need to change quickly because Britain is dangerously close to the tipping point where the majority can and will vote for punitive taxes on the majority to fund to redistribution of wealth to the beneficiaries of state benevolence – and I am not talking about the underclass that has never worked and has no intention of working for a living, I am talking about the middle class state workers……come to think about this, I am struggling to see the difference…

  3. 5
    Ghost riders in the night says:

    i saw a bit of paxo and clegg and clegg was waffling a bit
    but he did get an easy ride

    • 8
      Mr Ned says:

      Well of course, Paxo will not give a hard time to the liberals, after all, the liberals are no threat to Paxo’s beloved labour party.

    • 82
      TH Robin Cock says:

      Poor old Paxo was nearly dying towards the end so giving Ninc Clegg ample scope to waffle on & on & on etc

      • 100
        Anonymouse says:

        I thought Clegg waffled and waffled. His policies were shown to be shallow and ill thought out.

  4. 7
    The LibDems caught out bullshitting(what's new ?) says:

    Clegg is a lightweight and up till now he and the LibDems have had an easy ride from the media.He’ll start to feel the heat as the campaign progresses

  5. 9
    David Cameron says:

    In conclusion let me say just this

    I was deeply saddened by the death of the Polish President.

    Who’s going to finish my conservatory now?

  6. 10

    I watched the Top Gear team driving through a Bolivian jungle. Much better TV than watching Paxo cosying up to Clegg.

    • 200
      Yaawwwwwnnnnnn says:

      can’t remember how many times I’ve paid tax to see the repeats of that one, being charged over and over again for the same product. is that legal?

  7. 11
    sockpuppet #4 says:

    so we choose who’s best to run the country by who can bullshit convincingly and stand up at the same time.

    PS: yeah guido. I used to be SDP too.

    • 16
      Grumpy Old Man says:

      The sad thing, SP4, is that that is the way they next leader will be chosen. 13 years of Labour has left the electorate with the political nous of a senile hamster.

      • 38
        Lord G says:

        GOM – You’ve over-rated the electorate!

        • 161
          A senile hamster says:

          Simon Cowell … Big Brother … your Soaraway Sun … Cheryl Cole … Strictly Cum Dancing … Coronation Straße … my wheel … my bedding … zzzz

    • 202
      Nothing else will suffice says:

      I want a contract enforceable in court

  8. 12
    Martin Day says:

    “Dave has everything to lose, he is ahead in the polls, expectations are high, he is the superior debater, time and time again he has bloodied Brown’s nose at PMQs”

    What medication are you on Guido?

    • 20
      Grumpy Old Man says:

      Not the same as yours, obviously

    • 26
      You arse says:

      No medication Day, unlike you and your mendacious, blubbery, pill crunching pal Brown, who can’t go anywhere without Labour activists cheering him North Korea style to prop up his pathetic excuse for confidence.

      That do you?

    • 78
      Martin Day says:

      Did i mention that i’m a drug dealer innit?

    • 99
      Anonymous says:

      Got nothing to cut and paste out of the Daily Mirror today then, Martin?

      Look at the way Cameron engages easily with the public (if you can, as the BBC don’t show it often) and invites questions.

      Brown runs a mile from ordinary members of the public, and is happier in his Zil mobile bunker, surrounded by his adoring party activists.

    • 168
      Sir Everard Digby says:

      Ah more cut and paste..excellent. Have you been given a target or do you work for the cut and paste standards agency?

  9. 13
    jgm2 says:

    Come the man cometh the hour.

    The live debates are Clegg’s big chance to go for second. Steal the wavering Labour votes.

    Come out with all guns blazing on Brown. Give the left the excuse they need to jump ship to the LibDems.

    Present himself as the natural successor to the failed Labour party. He can claim they were right on the Iraq war (they were) and then ‘big up’ Vince Cable (even though we all know Vince is full of shit – but then no more so than Gordon Brown).

    So yes, this is Clegg’s moment to shine. This is the best opportunity for a 100 years to move from third into second place.

    Will he have the IQ to figure that out and attack Brown’s record?

    I doubt it.

    • 30
      Grumpy Old Man says:

      Good point. DimLibs best prospects are to go for the North where voters have lost faith in Labour but will not yet vote Tory until the Thatcher myths are finally excised from the Lefty Book of Horrible Tory Deeds. Mind you, some still believe the Tonypandy massacre actually happened. At Least the Tories never sold steelworkers pension funds to the highest non-dom bidder for a peerage.

      • 36
        jgm2 says:

        At Least the Tories never sold steelworkers pension funds to the highest non-dom bidder for a peerage.

        Just give it another few years and the Labour myth machine will have the Tories blamed for that too.

        • 41
          Stop Funding The Labour Party Spin Machine With My Licence Fee says:

          It was Ashcroft

        • 43
          Lord G says:

          Perhaps we could just devolve the north – they can have a labour government till kingdom come if that’s what they want!

          • Snotsicle says:

            Not a bad idea. Tory/SNP coalition – Scotland can have full independence in five years as long as SNP MPs follow the Tory party whip.
            Kills two birds with one stone.

          • Yorkshire Dave says:

            Err… No thanks! Labour can be part of their own carbon capture scheme and be buried under the North Sea as far as I’m concerned

    • 145
      English Liberation Front says:

      He won’t though. The natural inclination of the LibDems is to attack the Tories and Blubbering Brown will exploit that. The debate will be like the last one. Brown and Clegg will gang up on Cameron, put him under scrutiny and the carefully orchestrated audience will only break the rules and clap when either Brown or Clegg makes some snide comment about the Tory past.

      That is the problem when you have two main parties that are bolshevik, both pretending they are not.

    • 154
      Animal says:

      jgm2, while tactically this might seem the best option for Clegg, in reality the two issues a whole tranch of disaffected Liebore voters are angry about are immigration and employment. Clegg is just not making big hits on these and he won’t get the underswell of support he really needs. This block of the red vote is still sttracted by that awful Griffin and his pathetic ‘boot ‘em all out/nationalise everything’ message.

      I can see the LibDems getting up to an extra 5 seats next month but not really any more than that. The media are playing this as a choice between Brown and Cameron with everyone else getting cameo parts, and unless Clegg unveils something that really resonates with the public – and I can’t see that happening – he’s only going to get fleeting moments under the spotlight. It’s a shame as Liebore is utterly bereft of any morals, and ideas and any credibility, but for some ridiculous reason they will hang on as the bigger party to the LibDems. Hopefully they in turn will be massively reduced by a Tory landslide; a victory for Brown will spell the end of this nation.

      • 166
        Tulkinghorn says:

        Sniffin is a fucking freak, odious as they come, but crafty with it. His Unmentionables have adopted the Hamas policy — door to door helpfulness to win grassroots support — and I shouldn’t be at all surprised if he took Barking from that loathsome hypocrite Hodge, and of course now that pillock Gary Elsby has split the ZNL vote we might see Stoke-on-Sewer going the same way. There was righteous indignation enough when the Unmentionables got their first council seat; imagine the fun if they return two MPs to parliament.

        Another triumph for Jonah.

        • 191
          Animal says:

          Stoke central is a real concern. But it also concisely demonstrates the ignorance and high-handed attitude of NuLiebore to the little people; we tell you who to vote for, and you do as you are told. If the nasty party grab that seat (it remains a big ‘if’ thankfully) it will say a lot about the real state of politics in this country.

        • 212
          Moley says:

          Sniffin knows that the working class is innately racist and homphobic and no amount of Guardian or BBC propaganda is going to change that.

          Politics has to try and take account of man’s basic nature instead of pretending it doesn’t exist.

          Look at what has happened to the Catholic Church over its pretence that THE most compelling of human survival instincts can be suppressed.

          The Conservatives are right over their plans to recognise marriage.
          The money doesn’t matter; it’s the moral climate that matters, and it’s establishing a society which has an adequate birth rate to ensure economic stability in a way that encourages social stability that matters.

    • 175
      Moley says:

      I completely agree and it is something I would welcome.

      A high proportion of Labour’s core vote would never ever vote Conservative, but they might be persuaded to vote Liberal Democrat.

      There was a time when I was a paid up member of the SDP and stood as a councillor because Thatcher was showing signs of becoming too extreme, her Government was becoming unsavoury and Labour under Foot was manifestly incapable of leading and forming either Government or opposition.

      Government awaits the Lib Dems if they take the right choice, and at the moment they appear to have failed to recognise the opportunity in front of them.

  10. 14
    banana republic watcher says:

    Never mind the liblabcon in the polls, its the “others” who are the ones to watch,
    not a lot of people realise that.

    • 37
      l says:

      What I have noticed is that both the labour and libdem numbers are solid, its the Camerons and others which move about.
      I predict
      camerons= 34%
      Liars= 30
      Dumbs= 20
      others =16

      Not hung, but quartered

      • 45
        Lord G says:

        Hopefully Camerons manifesto message, which is (I guess) something along the lines of ‘stick with the nanny state or vote for us to take responsibility for your own actions’ might be the differentiator required to put them firmly in the lead. Let’s see

        • 49
          Longbow says:

          If he gives a cast iron garantee I might fall for that

        • 59
          Sir Reginald Titbrain says:

          Lots of children love nanny. She gives them sweets and extra helpings of pudding.

        • 121
          Mr Ned says:

          It’s all smoke and mirrors. Even IF the tories win and grant individuals the right to set up their own schools or whatever, they will still be governed by rules that they get NO say on as these rules are set by unelected dictators in Brussels.

          YOU will NOT be able to vote against their rules or the people who make them.

          UKIP would grant local and national referendums on important issues and give real power back to the people.

          ONLY by voting UKIP will you take enough votes away from the tories to get a hung parliament, which will collapse. When the main parties realise that they cannot get a working majority without granting the people of this country a referendum on membership. then MAYBE we might just get the chance to take our country back from political occupation by a foreign dictatorship.

          Voting for liblabcon is ONLY voting to give our country away to foreign dictators.

          • Longbow says:

            Who pledged the following on 26th may 09?:

            But the tragic truth today is that no matter how much we strengthen Parliament or hold government to account, there will still be forces at work in our country that are completely unaccountable to the people of Britain. People and organisations that have huge power and control over our daily lives and yet which no citizen can actually get at.

            Almost half of all the regulations affecting our businesses come from the EU. And since the advent of the Human Rights Act, judges are increasingly making our laws.

            The EU and the judges – neither of them accountable to British citizens – have taken too much power over issues that are contested aspects of public policy and which should therefore be settled in the realm of democratic politics.

            It’s no wonder people feel so disillusioned with politics and Parliament when they see so many big decisions that affect their lives being made somewhere else.

            So a progressive reform agenda demands that we redistribute power from the EU to Britain and from judges to the people.

            We will therefore hold a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty, pass a law requiring a referendum to approve any further transfers of power to the EU, negotiate the return of powers, and require far more detailed scrutiny in Parliament of EU legislation, regulation and spending.

            And we will introduce a British Bill of Rights to strengthen our liberties, spell out the extent and limit of rights more clearly, and ensure proper democratic accountability over the creation of any new rights.

          • Archer Karcher says:

            Call me Dave.
            A lot of water has flowed under the bridge since that time and Dave has watched his lead slip to single figures as a result.
            From a nailed on certainty, to a possible hung Parliament, all because of his decision in november 2009.
            He insulted his own supporters and more or less told them to fuck off if they did not like it, I wonder if he regrets it now?

  11. 15
    Upper class young Tory twerp says:

    The Tory leader has emphasised that “it’s not where you’re from that matters. It’s where you’re going.” And we heard Brown’s retort just last week on the pavement outside Number 10. “I come from an ordinary middle-class family in an ordinary town”, he said.

    If it’s Guido Fawkes style anger that is called for, Cameron will also likely come out on top. As polling showed at the time, when the MPs’ expenses scandal broke in May 2009 the public thought the leader of the Conservatives responded well – he mirrored the public’s anger and acted decisively, and the voters liked it.

    Come Thursday’s ITV election debate, I suspect the party leaders will be given something of a clean slate by their viewers (at least for 90 minutes). But until then my advice would be: watch Guido Fawkes, and watch him again.

    • 33
      jgm2 says:

      I won’t be watching it. Brown is scheduled to be there and the man just makes me gag to look at him these days. Such a vile, twisted, habitual liar. A man so vile with so much power just makes me retch.

      The power to fuck up everything. And he seized the opportunity and did exactly that. Fucked it all up and then sits there leering at us, daring us to blame him while his hordes of nasty little shitamites dig up dirt or, where none exists, simply manufacturing dirt to smear and sideline anybody who does try and call him to heel.

      I’ve shat better economists, MPs and PMs than Gordon Brown. He’s not fit to shovel shit and if the electors of Kirkcaldy weren’t such hopeless knee-jerk Labour voting muppets we wouldn’t have to look at his leering, ignorant, economy destroying fucking face again.

      He makes me puke. And the reverence in which is ‘intellect’ is held by the bedwetters just reinforces the revulsion. Are these imbeciles blind to the evidence of their own eyes? The man has fucked the UK economy. He sat there while it self-combusted and then shambles around declaring that he has personally saved the fucking world and they give it ‘Yeah – he did too’?

      What the Fuck?

      The only time I want to see Brown on TV is being dragged out of number 10 and then being tried for gross negligence, Enron accounting and pyramid borrowing like Bernie Madoff.

      • 40
        Stop Funding The Labour Party Spin Machine With My Licence Fee says:

        Totally agree he is the nastiest most vile MP let alone PM that I have seen. His manufactured leering smile will cost me a new television before long. The labour machine will self destruct very soon, I just hope it does not manage to last long enough and fluke the election. Brown knows he is doomed whatever happens and is just taking the p*ss now.

        • 51
          Ratsniffer says:

          I swear to god the gurning goon puts my blood pressure up whenever I see him goldfishing some more rubbish. What I detest the most about this campaign though, is that none of the MSM are attacking Brown on his record: Can you imagine if the chairman of a company sold off a third of its shares when they were at rock bottom, against the advice of bankers and experts, only to see the price rise ten fold later on.

          Brown did that with our gold, OUR fucking gold and yet no one is taking dear prudence to task on it! It’s as if history has been erased in this campaign, and the order has gone out from the bunker: no questions about the past please. And they meekly obey.

          • jgm2 says:

            Exactly.

            Brown is putting shit on the bankers and has hounded them out of their jobs as scapegoats for his own incompetence.

            Yet giving Brown another go at the economy is the equivalent of giving Fred Goodwin another go at RBS.

            It’s fucking surreal.

            Brown’s sole motivation (apart from power for its own sake) is to cover up his eye-boggling financial incompetence for as long as possible. That’s what all this pyramid national debt and money printing is all about.

            Tough choices? What a load of shit. It’s all about burying 13 years of economic incompetence under another five years of borrowed and printed money.

          • he who controls the present controls the past. he who controsl the past controls the present. He who controls the present controls the future. He who controls the future controls the past….

            The Glorious Leader sold gold to fund the war with Eurasia. The current good fortune we experience after that Glorious People’s Army (child-care division) victory in Oceania has led to double chocolate rations. The Glorious Leader’s acclaimed victory in Thursday’s debate was down to his towering intellect and the pygmy status of the enemies of the people Clegg and GotUndDammerungCammerung.

            That is all.

          • The IMF is coming says:

            I hate him, I hate him, I hate him.
            Every person I know hates him, even my 8 year old knows he is a ‘bad man’ (not indocrinated by me, but from school).

            My last hope is that the debates will show him up for what he is, but I doubt it. It will happen and hopefully before he clings to power in a hung Parliament

          • My Other Cars Not A Prius Either says:

            Another year Zero?

          • Mr Ned says:

            These “presidential” style leadership debates are an utter irrelevance to the actual leadership of our country. They are a completely false distraction aimed at giving people the illusion of choice. It is a smoke and mirrors illusion. It is a Farce.

            After the election Van Rompuy, Barrosso and Baroness Ashton will have more power over this country than whichever puppet we put in number10!

            And we don’t get a vote on ANY of them!

            VOTE UKIP to force a hung Parliament. This MIGHT give the tories enough of a shake up to get them to promise a referendum on membership of the EU in the next election that will follow within 12 months.

            It is our only and last chance to save this country from destruction as a politically independent entity.

            IF any of liblabcon form a majority government, then you will NOT see a British embassy anywhere in the world in another 12 years. There will be no seat on the UN security council as we will have to make way for the EU. Then Argentina could petition to get the UN to order the UK to give control of the Falklands to Argentina and we would be powerless to act.

            The deaths of our troops who valiantly defended British territory would have been in vain.

          • Mrs B says:

            This thread has brightened my day up. I often think it’s just me that wants to put my foot through the telly whenever the lying, gurning arsehole appears. And he’d be hopeless with Paxman because he NEVER answers a question. Bercowitz was supposed to be cleaning the Commons up and making it accountable, but he just sits there and laughs as Broon ignores whatever question is put to him and bangs on about Ashcroft. What a hoon amongst a bunch of vile hoons!

            (And Ratsniffer’s invocation of Godwin’s Law is well justified!)

        • 146
          Mr Ned says:

          jgm2, I share your sickening revulsion and sheer naked hatred of that fucking incompetent hate filled imbecilic enemy of this country, Gordon Brown, but We should not let our hatred blind us to the truth, and that is that ALL the the liblabcon election machine is a smokescreen designed to give us the illusion of choice.

          We don’t have a choice, we don’t, we have NO choice, so long as liblabcon are returned to power with a majority. liblabcon’s manifesto could be honestly, truthfully and completely scribbled on a scrap of paper, and it is this:

          “We will do whatever the EU tells us to do and YOU will get NO say whatsoever!”

          That is the unpalatable and deeply regrettable truth in this election.

          Vote liblabcon to give away our seat on the UN security council.
          Vote liblabcon to scrap the British Embassies.
          Vote liblabcon to give our foreign policy to that unelected bint Baroness Ashcroft.
          Vote liblabcon to give economic control to Van Rompuy.
          Vote liblabcon to give more political power to the child abusing Barrosso of Portugal.

          Make no mistake, we are talking about the END of this country as anything that could be identified as a country, forever.

          Vote UKIP for the only and last glimmer of hope to restore OUR nation, for OUR children and OUR future.

      • 66
        Anonymous says:

        Well jgm2 I certainly don’t think I could have expressed that better myself.

      • 69
        Canary Wharf Rat says:

        Jgm2. Now listen… We don’t need to hold back on this blog, if you have something to say please don’t hold back and be so shy!!!!
        If it’s any consolation I agree with you 100%

      • 118
        Time To Go Gordon says:

        When is somebody going to remind the great people of England that most of the policies Brown is foisting upon us are completely different from the ones the Labour Party in Scotland are proposing for his constituents. Oh yeah, and he hates England so much he refused to let his children be born here.

      • 153
        English Liberation Front says:

        That cheered me up too. It’s good to know you are not the only one who loathes Brown and has a physical, near homicidal reaction when the cheating sneak thief liar appears and peddles his crap.

      • 194
        Roger Daley says:

        I totally agree – Brown comes on telly – reach for the off button..

    • 92
      Unsworth says:

      And Brown is completely ordinary. An ordinary lying cheating bastard. There are a few about, but he’s nothing special.

  12. 21
    Ghost riders in the night says:

    I kid you not is this the start of the “Brown youth Party” ?
    http://www.askbury.co.uk/news-features/17/news-headlines/38210/jamie-walker-burys-new-youth-mp

    • 87

      I see the women in Bury are still up to their usual standards – look at that ‘returning officer’ ffs!

      The youth wing needs a name – may I suggest ‘Brownshits’?

  13. 22
    Gordon's song says:

  14. 24
    Mr Plum says:

    In a three way debate the Libs usually behave like the nagging wife, as soon a Cameron gets the upper hand on Brown Clegg will come out with something the Tories did twenty years ago.

    • 84
      The IMF is coming says:

      Ashcroft, IHT, Thatcher

    • 227
      Old Alice says:

      Any bets on who will be first to break the rules in the debate?
      And who will simply lie?

      Clue: he’s a lying, bullying, Stalinist c*nt who removed the 10% tax rate and believes in taxing the poor so he can give them some of it back in credits after wasting much of it on administration and billions in overpayments.

  15. 27
    Cream Puff says:

    I thought Clegg did flounder in parts, allthough Paxman’s interview was a bit hard, then it has to be, doesnt it?
    Couple of observations :
    Did Paxo have to stop the interview because he was choking instead of running out of time (in the last couple of questions, he was having problems speaking)
    Also
    Cleggs eyes were well blood shot, is the dawn til dusk TV interviews taking there toll?

  16. 32
    Chris Hoon says:

    CALAMITY CLEGG IN FINE FORM !

  17. 34
    jgm2 says:

    How dare you take us for fools Mr Cameron. How dare you?

    • 72
      boulay says:

      didn’t you make the same comment on the times comment boards under some woman’s name about the Tory manifesto launch???

      • 89
        sockpuppet #4 says:

        You appear to be suggesting that theres only one person (*) who might think that Cameron might be trying to bullshit us a bit?

        (* or at least, not a considerable number of people)

  18. 35
    Ed makes a Ballsup says:

    Ed Balls caught making a gaffe on Channel 4 news last night! He was asked what he thought of Mandelson calling the manifesto ‘Blair Plus.” He said it was fine and when he thought the camera was off, he said ‘He didn’t really say that, did he?!’

  19. 39
    Gordon ( SoldGoldAtThe ) BottomBrown says:

    Nick is brilliant !

    Vote Clegg, get me !!

  20. 42
    adge says:

    when Clegg comes clean to which party he will back (which we know is Labour) and stops this waffle “oh I dont know until people have voted” then he is no different to Brown – is he saying that its not been discussed with his own party, (would be bad management if that was the case) I thought Paxo would have pressed him on this matter last night, but no, he just let him of with it lightly, in fact no interviewer has ever given Clegg or Cable for that matter a heavy interview.

    • 124
      Time To Go Gordon says:

      Andrew Neil had a hard hitting interview with Cable a couple of months ago, to say he left him floundering would be a gross understatement.

  21. 46
    Lib Dums are done for says:

    Once the message gets through that a vote for Clegg = a vote for Brown, his party will be wiped out. No one, not even many loyal labour supporters want to risk another 5 years of Brown. Lib dems need to wise up. Will Clegg have the guts, once and for all, to admit he will form an alliance with Brown in the event of a hung parliament? Has his party dropped its knickers and is whoring itself just for the sake of a vague promise of voting reform which will help labour more than it will help them? Don’t expect any answers to that.

    • 64
      Thats News says:

      Could they make the same mistake twice? Sadly, they probably could.

      • 77
        jgm2 says:

        Exactly. After being lied to so comprehensively by Labour in 1997. With their cosy ‘non-aggression’ pact and promise of a PR referendum why, the fuck, would they still cosy up to Brown (who, by all accounts, was one of the chief reasons Blair reneged on the deal?)

        The Liberals don’t owe Labour fuck all. Not a thing. Labour cannot touch ‘em. If Brown tries to pick holes in their sums then Clegg can give it the full ‘I refuse to take economic lessons from a man who doubled UK debt right through a boom and quadrupled it through a recession’.

        Brown cannot teach anybody anything about economics. He’s a one-trick pony. Borrow as much as you can, piss it all away and proclaim it’s ‘investment’.

        That’s it.

        The Liberals should be all over Labour’s voters.

        They are on the ‘right’ side of the Iraq war and they’ve managed to get Vince Cable accepted as apolitical guru. Brown is a turn-off just to look at as well as being a complete jackass at every single level.

        Go for second. Play the long game.

        Jeeezus.

        • 177
          Brown's a Tosser says:

          Clegg is just a puppet. He believes rightly or wrongly that this election will bring about a hung parliament. That in itself gives the Lib/Dems more power than they have seen in ninety plus years. So understandably he is posturing. The problem with this strategy is it keeps Gordon in No.10 and that could bring about a much larger vote for the Tories as overwhelmingly most people want rid of Gordon. The Lib/Dems have much closer marginals seats where Labour is the largest party than they do the Tories so if he wants to win seats he is going about it the wrong way. This is perhaps why the polls are a bit screwy and that the 20 or 21% showing in the polls is really more like 16 or 17% and the lion share of this will go to the Tories. If this is the case after the election Clegg will no longer be leader.

          • You guys should be delivering leaflets or something rather than bleating says:

            You can hardly blame him though. The Liberals find themselves where they can concentrate on getting into government first, then worry about who it’s in partnership with second, then they can start to worry about all the side effects.

            If the Tories are close to a majority, I’d expect the Lib Dems to back Cameron, as the worst thing would be to have a Labour-Lib Dem pact that still struggled to win votes in parliament. A handful of Liberal rebels and the whole thing would come crashing down. No, they’d be better off propping up the Tories in a strong deal than a weak Labour deal.

    • 106
      TH Robin Cock says:

      Ninc Clegg did have bloodshot eyes and I noticed that Whince Cable has the look of a rabbit in the headlights. I hope they can’t stand the heat for much longer and start to spout even more deluded nonsense.

  22. 47
    Sir William Waad says:

    One has to admit that LibDem MPs tend to be better sorts than some of the spivs who infest the Labour and Tory benches. You don’t get much troughing from the LibDems. They might be a bit strange with their garden furniture made of recycled egg-boxes but they are generally have a better attitude than the career pols, union hacks and greasy-pole climbers in the big parties.

    • 62
      Thats News says:

      Yes, but then when they get to an election they throw all of their principles out of the window and act without morals. It’s becase they really, really think they deserve to win and will do anything to achiever their goal.

      • 71
        sockpuppet #4 says:

        yet again. ….

        Surely all politicians think they really deserve to win. And do anything to win.

    • 85
      Colonel Nut says:

      But many people don’t like a goody two shoes and Clegg’s assertions that the Lib Dems will bring purity and honesty to the political scene sound too good to be true.The Mr Angry approach seems staged and his evasiveness about the prospect of a hung parliament must make many people conclude that the Lib Dems wouldn’t have any planned strategy given the balance of power.

  23. 50
    Fartin Gay says:

    The ladies, as per usual, will decide this election.
    So, the question is who will they prefer?
    A grumpy lump of bad tempered old gristle with Slack Alice friends, or a choice between a couple of nice looking well educated fit chaps with a quid or two to spare and an awareness of personal hygiene.
    Hmm… difficult choice!

    • 173
      Tulkinghorn says:

      All the ladies of my acquaintance, including and most emphatically Mrs Tulkinghorn, loathe and despise that grumpy lump of gristle. The progressive ones despise him because he is too frightened to come out of the closet, and the conservative ones despise him because he is in there.

      Win-win, really.

  24. 53
    George Osborne says:

    I’m pretty good at most sports but I totally sucked at rugby.

    At least I was popular in the changing rooms though.

  25. 54

    Nah. Clegg’s got no bottom. Sure he’s an adept opportunist, and the debate formats and slant give him a built-in elevation, but I can’t see him doing much if the going gets tough. Dave is the more natural live performer.

    The big question is Gordon. Will McCowardlyShit bottle it? I still think he might. Maybe he’ll use Sarah’s feet as an excuse? Or perhaps take a cue from today’s Army and say he has to look after the kids?

    Just make sure you have the live blog ready Guido. I think Thursday night may actually be the most hate-filled, sweariest night the internet has ever known. Maybe we should get someone from Guinness on hand to verify it?

    I’ll be drinking cuba libres I think. Perhaps martinis? Special brew gets me angrier but I need to be able to type clearly, and a good martini really hones down that fury in a legible form. Any other suggestions?

  26. 57
    DO YOUR BIT FOR THE COUNTRY says:

    I am pleased to announce that
    i have just returned my fifth Labour party flyer
    to the senders
    without a stamp!

    thank you !

    • 136

      There’s a particular pleasure in tearing them up and sending them back to their relevant office.

      And it’s not like the ‘Fuck off, labour’ sign on my door wasn’t a warning…

  27. 67
    Anonymous says:

    Guido however good Clegg is it makes no odds. Cameron will use the debates in the way Regan would have. I am not saying Cam is the great communicator but Wednesday will not be a debate as such it will be a ‘conversation” with the public and as someone who has been to a Cameron direct meeting there is only going to be one winner.

    • 83
      Sad Imbecile Spotter says:

      “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” Regan.

      G Brown please note, then sod off and let us smoke in our own cars, give our children Snickers bars in a packed lunch if they like them and take our neighbours children to scouts if they ask us to.

  28. 69
    Layman says:

    Watching Labour and Conservatrive kiss Clegg’s arse (see above) is going to be hilarious

  29. 73
    Michael Deacon says:

    I always find that it’s best to keep in with our political masters and not to rock the boat.
    Me and my family have done very well during these 13 years of Labour gvernments: highly paid media jobs, big houses in nice parts of London, cheap foreign cleaners etc, so I’m sticking with Gordon Brown and will vote for five more years of Labour.
    Those miserable ‘Little Englanders’ and whining bigots who don’t like it should clear off to the Outer Hebrides and leave Britain to those of us who appreciate the changing times.

    • 81
      CB says:

      Telegraph Labour-luvvie advocates ethnic cleansing for the indigenous population of Britain. How much lower can that paper go?

      • 88
        CB says:

        Sounds like the Telegraph’s very own Polly Toynbee.

        • 91
          a once great paper says:

          I thought the execrable Mary Riddell had that job. Why does the Telegraph need two of these sneering leftie turds?

      • 111
        Great British Public says:

        We’ve already been ghettoised, ethnically-cleansed and Ball-kanized.

        It all started one day in May 1997….

    • 93
      Martin Day says:

      pissflaps

  30. 74
    Canary Wharf Rat says:

    The demographic of Tories are generally older voters. The natural place for younger voters has traditionally been left of centre until they have to live in the real World. I detect a shift towards the Libs in the younger population who have realised that NewLiars are not what they are looking for. This is where Cameron has to score a few goals.

    • 193
      Archer Karcher says:

      Highest youth unemployment ever? Five million economically inactive people in Browns “socialist utopia”? British jobs for foreign workers? Twelve hundred people killed by a useless government Quango? Endless underfunded wars at the behest of corporate, globalist cabals?
      Nahh, he will waffle on about the green revolution and all the high tech wonders solar panels and useless wind farms will bring, just like Brown and Clegg will. They will dance around on the head of a pin over 1% NI rise, while ignoring our debt rising by half a billion a day.
      It is an act, a contrivance, a mendacious fraud, not an election, based on real ideological differences. Real politics, real choice, like real democracy, is not what the LabLibCon is about, at all.

  31. 75
    Ian says:

    Brown’s manifesto pladges are falling apart already: “Labour’s “English Test” for public sector workers is a load of bollox. Existing staff don’t count, and neither do agency or subcontractor…Basically only new staff directly employed must undertake whatever test they put in place (remember the English test for citizenship has been exposed as a complete joke).”

    • 129
      Time To Go Gordon says:

      So let me see. Are we saying at the moment I could turn up at A & E and be treated by a doctor who can’t speak English? Welcome to Labour’s Britain.

      • 138
        AC1 says:

        No, you’d die waiting.

      • 155
        Remember, Remember says:

        Remember the German locum doctor who killed an innocent Brit ? The real killer was the EUSSR, whose rules mean it is not legal to discriminate against those who can’t do the job safely just because they don’t speak the language.

        If you ever need a good reason to get out of the EUSSR, this is it – they kill innocent people. Vote UKIP or B&P – the only parties committed to getting out.

      • 157
        Sir William Waad says:

        If you are an Australian doctor wanting to work in the UK you have to pass an English test. This is expensive (you have to pay for it yourself), there is a waiting list of several months and you have to do it at one of a small number of centres in the UK. So you’ll have to plan it all long in advance and make a special round trip of more than 20,000 miles. You might think that a competent senior NHS doctor could interview you and discover in half an hour whether you could speak medical English, but that wouldn’t give the bureaucrats much to do.

        If you are a Latvian doctor, you do not have to pass an English test, because you come from an EU country. Good luck to all your patients!

  32. 75
    WOULD YOU LIKE A BLINDFOLD ? says:

    Legal Aid For The Few ! Not The Many !

  33. 95
    lmao says:

    Get out before it’s too late. Brown’s house price bubble is about to burst. That’s all that’s left of the UK economy:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265537/Homeowners-hurry-sell-election-fallout.html

    • 103
      blowing bubbles says:

      Panic sets in as the herd stampedes:

      “Peter Fearn, from Keats Fearn, in Farnham, Surrey, said: ‘Last-minute cancellations by buyers suggest worries about the election and impact on the market of a hung parliament.’
      Property website Rightmove said 105,000 new properties were advertised for sale on its website in March, the biggest influx for 18 months.
      David Pank, a director of Manning Stainton, based in Horsforth, near Leeds, said many homeowners simply cannot wait any longer.
      He said: ‘Properties are being listed at a rate not seen since 1997.

      Some of our new sellers are two- earner families who have turned into one-earner families because one of them has lost their job.
      ‘They are nervous about interest rates going up.’

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265537/Homeowners-hurry-sell-election-fallout.html#ixzz0ky7Wvw1M

    • 110
      house prices to crash 40% says:

      Panic sets in as the herd stampedes towards the cliff edge.

      • 133
        AC1 says:

        That little? Wait for the 500 million per day of borrowing to stop propping up the potemkin economy.

        Still, will it be worth having a house in potemkinistan?

        • 170
          pol pot-gordon stole all my ideas says:

          er.there is only one way for interest rates to go……….UP!!!!!!!!!!

          the housing market is still way overpriced……

          ie avge salary £24000……..

          avge price of semi in essex £250,000 (paper thin walls and nowhere to park free)

          take home on £24,000 is £1540 per month.
          mortgage at 5% is £1478!!!!!!
          interest only………….. £1041

          whichever way we look at it TWO incomes are needed just to keep a roof over ones head(add council tax,phone,electric,gas,etc)

          madness.

          • Susie says:

            Which leads to two tired stressed people who basically hate each other locked into a mortgage partnership as otherwise they’d be homeless. No wonder the divorce rate is soaring, which leads to more people requiring houses and a housing shortage which drives the price up even more… and on and on…

    • 163
      Sir William Waad says:

      Ah, the dear old Mail, for folk who can’t quite manage the Beano.

  34. 96
    The Dirty Rat says:

    Anyone else noticed something that has become quite apparent during the course of Labour’s/Brown’s campaign. His wife is not only by his side at every moment, she is literally chaperoning him like an elderly relative who needs a little prompt, turn left here, lets move on from this, we should stop here etc.
    There is a very strong suggestion that apart from being used to make him more attractive to the public (if that is indeed possible) she is ‘minding’ him and keeping him from making a tw*t of himself like he did when he walked into the broom cupboard.

    • 101
      The IMF is coming says:

      Not good at hand shaking/saluting malarky either. Not comfortable in his own body

    • 107
      Jim says:

      That’s her job. That’s what she’s paid to do. She will be back with her friend in Canterbury once Brown gets turfed out in May.

      • 112
        Sarah Twatter says:

        My husband, my weirdo.

      • 117
        jgm2 says:

        Dunno about this Canterbury stuff but I do know she is now as culpable as the Maximum Imbecile. She’s like Imelda Blair and Pauline Prescott. She’s got a taste for the free trips and status that goes with being the PM’s wife. Endless celebrity photo opportunities, coronation chicken and pavlova dinners and has decided to put in a few weeks trying to keep her fingernails on the window of opportunity.

        She must know the countries fucked. She sees the nasty little shiteminers and arseholes and toady bastards that form the bubble of fantasy around the Maximum Imbecile day-in, day-out. She knows the entire thing is a fucking charade and yet she’s doing her best to inflict another five years of the Brownian idiocy upon us.

        Apparently her nickname is Magda. I think it would be more appropriate if it was Elena – after Nicolai Ceausescu’s wife.

    • 126
      Airey Belvoir says:

      I noticed that during his triumphal progress to the stage through the bussed-in crowd of sycophantic Labour enthusiasts, while doing the grip ‘n grin stuff he kissed a woman, got confused and then lunged lips first at the next bloke in the line, pulling back just in time. Mind you, had he connected he would probably have got some tongue action, so nauseatingly partisan were the audience. Yuck.

    • 222
  35. 102
    Cheese Lover says:

    The TV audience will not be large since we can choose other channels. The only thing which will be of any significance, barring a collapse by on the the leaders, is the soundbites shown on news programmes afterwards. And we know who will choose those.

  36. 109
    lolol says:

    Suppose Cleggy feels brave in getting his arse welded by Paxo but as has been said elsewhere it’s personality that will win thru and Cleggy has no personality or anything else from watching his other tv interviews,seen him on tv last night and just switched off the thing off,will do the same thing with our Dave or Snotty it’s the only way to keep the C02 levels a bit lower.

  37. 114
    298,257 says:

    Guido

    Labour party manifesto now available in Russian

    http://yfrog.com/08labourmanifestorussianj

    Its native language

  38. 119
    Who (severe personality defects aside) has, for 13 years surrounded 'him'self with despicable people says:

    Gorgon the Sicko Moron

  39. 128
    QWERTY says:

    Clegg was full of crap, he can say what he likes knowing that he will probably never have to actually be accountable for this crap.

    Paxman gave him such an easy time at one point I was expecting him to kneel down in front of Clegg undo his flies and give him a blow job.

  40. 133
    QWERTY says:

    Why are the media not pointing out that ‘if’ the polls stay as they are, even if Liebour and the Limp Dems get together it’s doubtful if they could form a majority Governmernt?

    Liebour would probably need the SNP and the sheep shaggers to assist, so let’s be clear we in England would end up being dominated by a Government with probably a 150 foreign MPs deciding upon our education, health & welfare systems whilst NOT being accountable to any voter in England.

    • 140
      Jack says:

      We should start a party like the Tea Party in the US

      But here it would be called Stop the Sheep Shaggers Party….

      SSSP for short…

  41. 135
    captain cumshot says:

    O/T

    The three little piggies are going too have to pay back all of the legal aid they will receive. Source: Guardian.

    No link yet.

    • 151

      Then, one has to ask, what’s the point of giving it to them in the first place?

    • 160
      Sir William Waad says:

      No decent lawyer is going to defend them at legal aid rates. My advice to the piggies is that, if they want to stay out of prison, they should break the habit of a lifetime and pay for a round themselves. Short arms, deep pockets!

    • 206
      Rip Van Winkle says:

      You believe Brown? Seriously, you believe someone who lies as a matter of course? You really think that in 12 months time when these guys are found ‘not guilty’ – and they will be – that anyone other than a few political anoraks will remember what Brown said three weeks before the 2010 election?

      The man’s a liar. He can’t stop lying. He’ll say anything for today’s and tomorrow’s front page. Period.

  42. 141
    BBC NEWS CHANNEL NOT AVAILABLE says:

    Is it me? – my computer? – or the BBC?

    BBC News Channel currently not available!

    Is that because of the Tory Manifesto launch?

    • 152
      Where's the BBC News Channel says:

      No – the BBC graphic states that it is ‘unavailable at this time’ – it was available yesterday – ‘at this time’ – indeed it was full of Brown shit!

    • 162
      Suzy the Quattro Tory says:

      It’s just fired up on my PC !!

  43. 144
    Sarah Twit Pic says:

    head gear

    http://twitpic.com/1f5hl0

  44. 147
    squeaker leaker says:

    There are rumours around that Bercow is about to defect to the Labour Party.

  45. 159
    restandbthankfull says:

    Aljabeeba at it again this morning. Plaid Cymru press conference is on live and the Beeboids in their infinite wisdom decide it is right to have the Primentalist in an image alongside Plaid. They just have to have McDoom in there somewhere despite the story.

    Postman Pat made a right tit of himself this morning trying to defend the three little Labout piggies getting Legal Aid – at the same time McDoom was saying on the radio that they would have to pay it back – it being? The money they are accused of stealing from the tax payers or the legal aid? Both perhaps?

  46. 171
    restandbthankfull says:

    Ben Bradhsaw reporting from Battersea Power Station. He said they have been told they have to wear hard hats when they are outside as it’s a building site and there are rats around. You wouldn’t want a rat on your head would you.

    Golly Laura Hoonsberg is there too. Despite Ben saying there is nothing new in Conservative manifesto how many reporters do they need to cover the manifesto launch then. Pair of twats.

  47. 172
    jeffwy says:

    Nice to see the ‘middle classes’ getting on the benefits bandwagon.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265508/Peter-Davey-gets-42-000-benefits-year-drives-Mercedes.html

  48. 176
    David says:

    Cleggy a winner…. c’mon where the punch line? Compo or Auntie Wainright would have a better chance.

    My bet Brown will stutter and gaff conducting the Symphony Orchestra at the same time, and Cleggy well he’ll just harp on making believe the world is round…

    and Cameron well, he’ll either score or he won’t but he’ll come out the better and the out come will be…..

    no substance apart from hot air and rhetoric no one being the wiser – WHY?

    Because the questions will be ‘planted’ you get them three on Question time and Any Questions with a live audience and you can be sure we’ll be able to make a decision, as the outcome will be 100% different.

    Noticed how Browny hates meeting ‘proper people’ we’ve only seen him with selected people asking selected questions – now that IS cheap electioneering!

    Another few years of that lot – no thanks!

  49. 178
    A clapped out, rotting hulk says:

    Ah’m the feather in Noo_Lie_Bore’s cap I am.

    It’s me – JohnJohn PressClot – an the Noo_Lie_Bore wimmin still appreciate a quick fumble from my famous fingers.

    Anyone got a pie . . ? . . patsy . . . ? . . . . sandwich . . ? . . anything . . ?

  50. 182
    The IMF is coming says:

    BBC just pulled live coverage from Battersea………………….

  51. 183
    Strange Woman says:

    Why is Theresa May’s Collar 100 sizes too big

    • 185
      Strange Man says:

      Looks like Michael Gove will be the downside of having a Conservative government.

    • 205
      Fanzine says:

      Why is Theresa May anywhere near shadow government, let alone real government? She is a complete airhead, oh I get it now, copy Labour all the way to having simpletons in office. So much easier shafting the country with thicko`s in important office.

  52. 184
    MAD FRANKIE HADDOCK says:

    David Cameron, when introduced by Guido Fawkes, shook his hand and said “Thank you for doing this”. Er, its okay, boss. You told me to.

  53. 186
    Seth the pig farmer says:

    in either event, he should say which way it will be before the election, or else risk being accused of going with whatever option gives him a deal with Labour. As if.

  54. 187
    (skidmark off the old turd)Will Straw says:

    Cleggy comes across as a gimp and whines too much.
    I really don’t rate his chances.

  55. 189
    iain says:

    Government of Britain?
    …its the United Kingdom
    Climate Change, the greatest threat of our times..give me strength.

    This manifesto launch so far has been dreadful uninspiring drivel. Hague is washed up.

    Cameron better come up with something good here as its lead balloon time….

    • 204
      iain says:

      Two minutes and thats enough. Cameron is crap.
      5 years planning for this moment and his speech gripped me for 2 minutes max.
      I hate Labour with every fibre of my being, absolutely despise them…but try as I might, much as I want to, this Conservative party leave me cold.
      Fuck knows how they think they’ll get the votes of those who start off hostile to them. Is hating Gordon brown and Labour going to be enough to secure them a win int he election?…I really dont think know.

      • 207
        Any trick in the book... says:

        ……said the labour troll coming up for air and and a little troughing in the public purse

  56. 190
    Ratsniffer says:

    I hope Cameron really does his homework for these debates. people want to hear some passion. I hope he says to Brown: “I will not be lectured on the economy from a man who sold a third of Britain’s gold reserves at rock bottom prices, losing taxpayers 7 billion pounds in the process. I will not be lectured by a man who wrecked one of the best pension industries in the world. I will not be lectured by a man who presided over the biggest boom and bust since the war, who put nothing to one side during the good times, and who now wants us to trust him to get us out of the mess he helped create in the first place. And as for you, Clegg, get that fence post out of your arse or shut the fuck up. (ok, that last bit was fantasy)

    • 208
      Fanzine says:

      I want cold hard facts, a dismantling of the New Labour project and highlight every one of it`s massive failures. I want specific solutions from Cameron and promises he intends to keep, oh shit…..

  57. 197
    REEVO says:

    Highly amusing the LIB DEMs don’t need to do anything much at all as, Brown and Cameron are so awful Clegg can’t help but shine.

    Its a lot like X-Factor we have Bolshevik Brown the “I know i’m good so up yours” candidate, the Tearful Tory Cameron “please vote me, i wannit soo baaaad plea candidate and the outsider Clegg with nothing to lose “having a great time” candidate.

    Laugh and the world laughs with you……

  58. 198
    Roy says:

    Pisstakery aside, the decision on whom to work with needn’t be the party with the most vote or the most seats, but it should be the party that will agree to something closest to what the Lib Dems what to achieve. If they don’t stand for what they believe, and stand true to those ends, what is the point in forming a coalition – other than for fame and fortune?

  59. 209
    Anonymous says:

    At last – Cameron is talking about cuts, and quite a list he gave.

  60. 211
    Gary Glitters says:

    At last someone who is understanding. The Pope Rocks.

  61. 214
    QWERTY says:

    I’m voting Labour after that hoon like performance from David Cameron

    David Cameron still won’t take a question from the Mirror.

  62. 215
    Desperate Dan says:

    Why does Nick Clegg always travel round with his Dad?

  63. 219
    Cardinal del Monte says:

    Clegg “coming through unscathed”?

    Not while I was listening. His account of the Liberal Democrats’ policy on immigration was remarkably silly. The two main points of it are, apparently:

    (1) An amnesty for illegals who’ve managed to escape deportation for 10 years. When almost the only discouragement we still have is to leave open the possibility that they might someday be detected and deported. Now traffickers would have a new selling-point: “Keep out of sight for long enough, and you’ll be allowed to stay.”

    (2) Directing immigrants to Inverness and Lincolnshire. Clegg said that some locals in Inverness had told him that the locality was underpopulated, and that they’d welcome more population. It didn’t seem to occur to him that they might have meant more people from other parts of Scotland or even from England, not Somalis, Pakistanis, or Roma Gypsies.

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    Desperate Dan says:

    Clegg talks a lot of patronising drivel.

  65. 226
    Anonymous says:

    I wonder if I watched the same LibDem press briefing this morning. I thought Clegg floored Andrew Neil, and I have been really impressed with his grasp of detail. I wasn’t a fan at all before, but I am now. He actually speaks English as well, rather than robotic. Brightened up a dark day as I think about the country being run by assorted nutters and self-selected obsessives accountable to nobody.

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    Anonymous says:

    All this crap about how the LDs can’t win. Yet there is a press article showing when people choose between policies without knowing the parties, it is the Greens then the LDs which come top.

    So much support for the two main parties is inertia, ignorance, and tactical voting to keep the other lot out, bolstered by tired reporting like this.

    If Clegg should declare his preference, the other parties should equally state what they are prepared to do in return. Why expose your hand in advance? Similarly, the main parties should say what they will do with VAT. Working for a small business often competing against smaller, non-VAT registered businesses, I need a price penalty of 20%+ like a hole in the head.

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    Anonymous says:

    Michael Gove on NN last night completely neutered Paxo. The key seems to be (a) not to even look annoyed (b) short answers, that knocks Paxo off his pompous inquisitor stride (c) short bursts back, as in “Yes. What’s wrong with that?”

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