March 31st, 2010

Tweetminster Predicts Labour Biggest Party

Tweetminster is the website for people too stupid to work Tweetdeck or any of the many other Twitter apps. They have had problems with their headline-friendly research before – they overestimated Labour activity on Twitter by 45%. After a bit of prompting they retracted those figures in an embarrassing climbdown. Now they are claiming they can predict the election based on tweet patterns – essentially the thesis is that the more tweeted about the candidate, the more likely they are to get elected.   On that basis they are predicting that Labour will get 35%, Tories 34% and LibDems 22% with others scraping 9%.

There are so many methodological errors it is hard to know where to start. The most obvious one is that the Twittersphere is not representative of the voting population. Guido wants to know, do they fancy a bet?


78 Comments

  1. 1
    WIND TURBINE, MY ARSE says:

    First !

  2. 2
    WIND TURBINE, MY ARSE says:

    Lets hope they are wrong !

    • 16
      Maximus M. Bacillus says:

      Why hope when you can be 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999% certain they are wrong?

  3. 3
    Anonymous says:

    So if I talk about what a c*nt Gordon Brown is it means I’m going to vote for him?

    • 12
      restandbthankfull says:

      That’s just what I was thinking. With all the bad press about MPs expenses and all those negative tweets about twats perhaps they all think they are popular because everyone is talking about them. Sad delusional lot.

      • 22
        Maximus M. Bacillus says:

        ‘There’s no such thing as bad publicity’? Clearly they have sieve-like memories to have forgotten about Wacko Jacko, Salman Rushdie, and countless others.

    • 24
      Brown's a Tosser says:

      It is pure rubbish and a waste of ones time. The polls are a snapshot at a particular time, the poll that counts will be on May 6th if Gorgon has the Balls to call in the first place. Lets see what happens on twitter come May 7th!!!

      • 32
        jgm2 says:

        June 3rd. Or later.

      • 36
        The IMF is coming says:

        June more like

        According to’mirror james’ twatter, the poll tax riots 20 years ago today.

        Unfortunately the hard working population of the UK are too busy to riot against 13 years of incompetence, £1.3tr debt, sleaze and stealth taxes

  4. 4
    TWEETMINCER says:

    Reinaldo ! Reinaldo !

    • 13
      Dr Andy Burnham says:

      Not as many tweets from Mid Staffs as we’d hoped.1200 or so less.Shame.Andy.X

  5. 7

    At less than evens it’s worth a punt. Lib Dems @ Burlington Burty 100/30!

  6. 9
    Postal Vote says:

    Labour draws most of its people from and is supported by people in non-jobs in the public sector and the unions who all have too much time on their hands and can tweet themselves senseless, like me, completing all those postal vote forms and posting this nonsense on Guido.

  7. 11
    The IMF is coming says:

    Fools.
    Feckless lefties with time on their hands tweet away while the rest of us are working hard earning a living. (apart from when we are posting on here obviously).
    Good for journos though

    • 14
      Thats News says:

      I know a group of community activists who regularly check the tweets of the local Labour MP because he is such a loon and likely to tweet something really, really dumb. David Wright, MP for Telford, is the MP concerned.

  8. 17
    The Sleeper says:

    Does this mean that by their ‘methodology’ , Tango Tony is going to be our new PM?

  9. 18
    buggerlugs says:

    desperation – desperation – desperation.

  10. 19

    It is clearly time to fire up some sort of automated tweet mentioning Nick Griffin.

    …. that might focus their minds on their methodology.

  11. 21
    WTF is Twitter says:

    Have never used twitter in my life.
    Wouldn’t know how and don’t really know
    what it is and still can’t be fucked to know.
    Is there something I’m missing?

  12. 25
    Technomist says:

    There will be masses more nonsense and lies in the coming weeks.

  13. 26
    Silly Old Fart says:

    WTF is a tweet ?

  14. 43
    Alarmed Cameronian loyalist denounces Telegraph bloggers as 'undisciplined commentariat' says:

    Over on ToadyHole they are not liking it up ’em. Tim Montgomerie, the self-important prat who runs the ConservativeHome website, has excommunicated The Daily Telegraph and its bloggers for disloyalty to the Cameronian cause. Lord Tebbit, whom some people might have thought had made a marginally more important contribution to Toryism than Montgomerie, is denounced as “Someone who should know better”.

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/geraldwarner/100032234/alarmed-cameronian-loyalist-denounces-telegraph-bloggers-as-undisciplined-commentariat/

    • 45
      The IMF is coming says:

      Go back to your twitters

    • 48
      Why the Conservatives deserve to lose says:

      “Cameron and his colleagues have spent the last five years assiduously antagonising everyone who should be well disposed towards them and attempting to woo those who would never like them. They have been chasing unimportant and ungettable endorsements from the Guardian while alienating their sympathisers. I recently spent an unhappy evening with a senior Tory who dismissed one potentially friendly institution after another. The City’s criticisms of Osborne? “Who cares about the City?” he asked. The Telegraph’s criticisms of Cameron? “I don’t bother with the Telegraph any more.” And so on.

      http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/douglasmurray/100032187/why-the-conservatives-deserve-to-lose/

      • 58
        jgm2 says:

        To be fair most people don’t bother with The Telegraph any more. It was never the same after Auberon Waugh died. That Craig Brown was so indescribably shit he must have been related to the owner. Or his wife’s lover or something.

      • 59
        Norman Tebbit says:

        Why the Conservatives deserve to lose

        Having been led up the garden path on to the messy bog of the middle ground by Michael Ashcroft’s strategy for the critical seats, David Cameron now has to put some greater distance between himself and the Prime Minister. If he does not, the voters will reluctantly return the more experienced, battle-hardened man to implement consensus policies.

        http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/douglasmurray/100032187/why-the-conservatives-deserve-to-lose/

  15. 47
    a very British coup says:

    This is getting more sinister by the hour.

    Jack Straw has just been on Radio 5 to “explain” why Gordon Brown would be entitled to remain as prime minister even if Labour lost the next election and the Tories became the biggest party.

    We are being prepared for suspension of democracy in this country to allow Brown to retain power.

    • 53
      CHARLIE DIMMOCK'S EXPERTLY TRIMMED BUSH says:

      Jack Straw will be first on the gallows and i will pay good money to pull the fucking handle !

    • 54
      Gordon Brown says:

      It’s true. If there is No clear Majority and I refuse to resign then I and my government stay in power. It’s all within the rules and it is the right thing to do.

      Link to the rules below.
      http://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/media/343763/election-rules-chapter6-draft.pdf

      • 56
        jgm2 says:

        Yeah. Right up until your first vote of ‘no confidence’.

        Should take no more than a day.

      • 57
        CHARLIE DIMMOCK'S EXPERTLY TRIMMED BUSH says:

        Sharpen your pitchforks !
        i can feel major civil unrest comming on
        if we do start lets not stop till our work here is done !
        bring on the revolution !

        • 60
          jgm2 says:

          General strike called by the opposition. Let’s see how they pay the army to maintain order with no fucking tax revenue.

          Same way as his economic idol, Comrade Robert Gabriel Mugabe. Just print some more. Well, when you’ve printed 200bn what’s another 200bn.

          Gordon Brown. Father of the fucking nation.

          • No longer a virgin says:

            Father of the fucked nation, perhaps?

          • Moley says:

            We can at least begin to see the strategic thinking behind the rigging of the polls to benefit Labour.

            Can the polls be safely relied on to unfailing predict the outcome of an election?

            Would the Government be right to suspend democracy on the basis of the opinion polls?

        • 70
          LOONWATCH says:

          nutter

  16. 49
    Sir William Waad says:

    This is the new media running down the newer media.

    What a horrible animation.

  17. 50
    Martin Day says:

    Ah, Mr Tory Fawkes,
    I’ll certainly have a bet with you that David Cameron’s Conservatives will NOT form the next government.

  18. 51
    Maximus M. Bacillus says:

    OT, but wonderful news about alt comics about to flee from a baby-eating tory Britain – it’s made my day.

    Their delusions about being the comedic voice of the common man are amply exposed by the delightful conceit that is Viz’s Roger’s Profanosaurus – cannot be recommended highly enough for a psychic detox. (I laughed so much I was thrown out of the bookshop).

    • 61
      CHARLIE DIMMOCK'S EXPERTLY TRIMMED BUSH says:

      Which of these great talents is threatening to leave
      that fuckin harry hill i hope
      i’ve seen funnier car crashes than that twat
      its about time he went back to the planet zod

      and MMB i’m sat here with my bumper Roger’s profanisaurus infront of me
      it’s the magna farta with over 10,000 rude words and phrases !

  19. 52
    Moley says:

    The very first step is to establish an accurate profile of twitter users.

    Twitter is the medium.
    Tweet is the verb and noun.
    Twat is the person doing the tweeting.

    Insecure people in public used to smoke to give them something to do with their hands and reduce their self consciousness.

    Now that smoking is politically incorrect, people fiddle with their mobile phones when in public and feeling self conscious. This is probably when the twat most often does the tweeting.

    Tweeting is a brainless displacement activity and is meaningless.

  20. 63
    Lord Voldemandy says:

    Labour are going to introduce a hoon tax for men that use them. Count me out for starters.

  21. 65
    John Prescott Esq., says:

    I hear our campaign slogan is ‘A future free-for-all’. Bring it on! I’ll punch anyone who says I’m fat.

  22. 67
    He's Spartacus says:

    Heh heh..

    Caught napping on the Twitter phenomenon Paul?

    Envy will be your downfall..

    Get in touch, I have a plan for a pay-per-tweet service with a steroidal viral twist. It will slaughter Messagespace.

    Regards,

    Tom

  23. 71

    Funny, was having a discussion at work about this today – some of our clients are mulling tweetish applications. I ventured that the kind of people who are twitter enthusiasts are twats. There were no demurring voices…

    Let Labour rule the twatosphere – their support there really does indicate the narrow constituency those vicious little identity politics-mongers appeal to. Fuck em.

  24. 72
    Mark says:

    “Please note that the scope of this exercise isn’t to compete with polling methodologies – it is an experimental study that aims to use predictive modelling around a dynamic data set to determine if there are correlations between word-of-mouth on social media and election results. All predictions are made on an experimental basis and the reliability of the method for predicting election results will be assessed once the study is completed.”

    Given that they’re clearly not saying this is a reliable prediction, but rather one that they’re making precisely so that they can test its accuracy after the election, I’d say they probably don’t “want a bet” because that wouldn’t make any sense. Are you wilfully misrepresenting them or do you just have the reading comprehension skills of the Microsoft Word grammar checker?

  25. 73
    Jimmy says:

    “Tweetminster is the website for people too stupid to work Tweetdeck or any of the many other Twitter apps.”

    So what’s this website then?

  26. 74
    There Really are Reds Under our Beds says:

    So if you twitter: “Gordon Brown is a complete arse” then this is a vote in Gordon Brown’s favour is it????

  27. 77
    Politwecal says:

    Twitter is great for following certain people or laundry lists at once, but to enable deeper insights and analysis we created a side-by-side comparison site, Politwecal, at http://www.politwecal.com . Take a look – especially the search function should be handy for comparing the latest opinions from party reps.

  28. 78
    Paul Fald says:

    Far too intelligent and mature to lower myself to use a method of limited communication by the name of Twitter !

    maturedatingonline.org


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