March 15th, 2010

Moodys : Britain “Substantially Closer” to Losing ‘AAA’ Rating

Update :

March 15 (Bloomberg) — The U.S. and the U.K. have moved “substantially” closer to losing their AAA credit ratings as the cost of servicing their debt rose, according to Moody’s Investors Service.

Update : II : Pierre Cailleteau, managing director of sovereign risk at Moody’s in London, said under the ratings company’s so-called baseline scenario the UK will spend more on debt service as a percentage of revenue this year than any other AAA rated country: “We expect the situation to further deteriorate in terms of the key ratings metrics before they start stabilizing … This story is not going to stop at the end of the year. There is inertia in the deterioration of credit metrics.” Moodys predicts the UK will spend 7% of tax revenue servicing debt this year and between 9% and 12% in 2013. Financing costs above 10% automatically put countries outside of the AAA ratings category.

Update : III : For a completely different take, see the BBC -  UK Credit Rating Viewed As Safe


232 Comments

  1. 1
    Dame Mandelson of Jacksy says:

    Moody bastards

    • 10
      A shot in the Dark says:

      Have I hit it?

    • 21
      Mr Ned says:

      All it will take is for Brown to have any input whatsoever to whatever form of Government is created by the next General Election and we will be downgraded faster than a Muslim, carrying a will and a set of box-cutters on an American Airlines flight to New York.

      • 39
        The Voice of Reason says:

        Mr Ned, fret not.
        Clegg has already said he will not work with Brown therefore Brown is finished.
        Brown has painted himself into a corner, his raison d’etre is to keep the Tory party out of power and the only way he will be able to do that is by falling own his own sword. He has been hoist by his own petard.
        And I think that there is less chance of us losing our AAA rating if we have a hung parliament because instead of all the tribal bickering we will have to all pull together and work as a team for a change.
        If the markets do not like that prospect then there is something wrong with them.
        “We are all in it together” as George Osborne would say!

        • 111
          jgm2 says:

          Clegg said he would hold a referendum on Europe and then voted against one.

          Clegg is a bare-faced liar and most emphatically would work with Brown if he was bought of with a cabinet post for some made-up ministry. The environment or some shit like that which would appeal to his bed-wetting voters while the Maximum Imbecile continued his reign of economic idiocy.

          • Susie says:

            And wasn’t Clegg talking of ‘savage cuts’ a few weeks ago?

          • Ted Bundy says:

            Clegg is merely an opportunistic Europhile shyster in a smart suit completely without principle. The only thing he believes in is finally getting his sweaty little mitts on one of the levers of power. He would make a pack with anybody in order for this to be achieved. Liberal Democrats all things to all people just too finally get a sniff of power and what a bunch of sanctimonious arseholes they are.

        • 189
          Archer Karcher says:

          Cleggover and the Lib Dim`s are a band of outright opportunist`s, they would whore themselves to anyone who would give them a sniff of office again.

    • 34
      Ron Moody AKA Fagin says:

      I’m very surprised anyone takes my thoughts on government debt that seriously.

      • 166
        Geordie Scoot says:

        You’ve got to pick a pocket or two, boys!

      • 227
        Ernst & Young auditors extraordinary says:

        So are we, especially as we can’t hide the parlous state of the UK debt the way we managed to hide Lehman’s debts!!!

    • 56
      Labour corruption watch. says:

      Purcell Quango to be investigated

      http://is.gd/aI5PD

    • 58
    • 64
      Ed Balls says:

      So what?

    • 104
      Todger says:

      shoot the messenger

      • 127

        so let me get this right

        Charlie “the thug” Whelan gives Brown £11M quid on the condition that 67 Unite hairy arsed heavies can have safe seats in Parliament.

        Charlie “the thug” Whelan then fucks up the election campaign by grounding the national airline.

        Brown calls Charlie “the thug” Whelan a Hunt

        Will Brown tell Charlie “the thug” Whelan to stick his £11M where the sun don’t shine and he can fuck right off with the 67 safe seats where a shaved baboon can and will be elected for Labour?

        Answers on a postcard to the:

        Andrew Marr Show
        Labour HQ
        Bernie Grant House
        Steve Biko St
        the Peoples Republic of Islington (no oiks)

  2. 2

    I predict a bad moody in Downing Street this evening.

    Wonder of Sarah will tweet this piece of news?

    • 19
      Hairy Palms of Hamstead says:

      Why have political perverts invaded the internet porn scene?
      Type ‘SamsClam’ or ‘Sarah’s Twat’ into the ‘Bored housewife’ search engine and you get two old bags moaning about their messy husbands.
      I know porn is about illusion but at least I get me rocks off.
      What result will I get from buying into Sam and Sarah’s illusion?

      • 36
        Engineer says:

        A newspaper clipping read out on The News Quiz some years ago concerned a Court report from a town on the south coast. Apparently, one of it’s citizens rang an 0800 premium rate ‘phone number entitled “Hear me Moan”. All he got (at £1 a minute or whatever) was a middle-aged woman complaining that he hadn’t mowed the lawn, done the shopping…

        He took the service provider to Court on the grounds of misrepresentation. The judge threw the case out on the grounds that if he was sad enough to ring one of these premium rate lines, he deserved everything he got.

        The British system of Justice has not lost all it’s wisdom.

        • 45
          No Offence Intended says:

          True enough Engineer, but still, ’tis pretty bad news for a porn addict like you though, innit?

          • Engineer says:

            Afternoon, TaT. How’s the blog?

          • Policy of Ambiguity says:

            I have no idea what you are talking about.
            This is the first time I have ever visited this site, I merely stumbled upon a link for it when I was visiting Auntie Dale’s.

          • Engineer says:

            Q. E. D.

          • Policy of Ambiguity says:

            But to come to that sweeping conclusion you must also come to the conclusion that another organisation that operates a policy of ambiguity, Israel, was responsible for the illegal assassination of the member of Hamas in Dubai, and also your proposition would also suggest that Israel, a country has over 200 hundred weapons of mass destruction that is fails to acknowledge to the relevant authorities yet at the same time says we should attack Iran, a country that possesses no nuclear weapons.
            That is a very big QED you are proposing, Engineer.
            Are you prepared to stand by such a vast propostion as the one you have just made?

          • Engineer says:

            Sod off TaT. If you want to make comment on the Middle East and it’s problems, fine; but don’t drag me into it.

          • Policy of Ambiguity says:

            You see that’s your problem Engineer, you are just another stooge who is not willing to take a stand on anything lest it lose you the election.
            I will let you into a secret, old man, the Tories have already lost and so your spinelessness is all for nought.
            Grow a spine and stand up for some principles Engineer.
            War, occupation, torture and internment: America, Britain and Israel form the axis of arseholes and you don’t want to get dragged into it? You are bang in the middle of it you silly cretin.
            How do you feel about the Israeli Defence force interning Palestinian boys for throwing stones at soldiers, forcing confessions out of them when they have not and getting them to sign documents written in Hebrew, a language they do not understand.
            Those big brave Israeli soldiers, eh?
            Just like Northern Ireland, innit?
            The Israelis treatment of Palestinians is exactly the same as our troops treatment of Irish Catholics where before internment the IRA counted in the hundreds and after internment it was in the thousands.
            But ofcourse you don’t want to get dragged into all that middle eastern stuff, do you, you cretin.

          • Engineer says:

            You’ve forgotten to take your medication again, TaT.

        • 50
          Hairy Palms of Hamstead says:

          I know the guy in question,he was chairman of the lobby group,Campaign for real Ale and porn. C.R.A.P or as we like to be known ‘The old strokers’.

      • 191
        Alexsandr says:

        there is a poll on Punternet message board over which of the 3 is most sh@ggable!

    • 150
      NewLabour: Prostituting Britain to the American NeoFascist vermin says:

      yes shes just tweeted, ‘My Gordon has just given Mrs Timms the lady who makes the tea a full right hook, he’s so manly when he starts bullying’

  3. 3
    concrete pump says:

    Is this something to do with economics, and our standing in the world.

    Could someone advise, only i’m a bit thick.

  4. 4

    Labour have no problem getting hold of cheap finance, The good Lord (Mandelson) knows who to tap-up.

    • 8
      Lord Robinson of Crusoe - The Loan ArRanger says:

      I’d find 1.4 trillion a bit of a bastard to conjur up, even for you Lord Bottom of Arse.

    • 156
      Dame Mandelson of ZaNUnite says:

      Any chance of borrowing 500 quid for my deposit in Middles… berger something, apparently one of the Kumar’s at number 10 has croaked leaving me a nice seat to get my teeth into, yummy girls.

      • 226
        Iano says:

        MP Ashok Kumar has passed on at 53.

        Every where BBC sky

        and yahoo news.
        Sad news. From what I read he was a very dedicated MP and a great friend to many. He will be missed by the many whose lives he helped. RIP.
        __________________

        Found that on another site. The internet never refused content.

  5. 5
    70s revivalist says:

    BBC reports ??? what gives

    “The credit ratings of major AAA governments, including the US and the UK, are well positioned, says Moody’s Investors Services.”

    • 23
      Gordo says:

      Guido just made it up, Kelvin style.

      • 123
        Sir Everard Digby says:

        The U.K. economy, which emerged from its longest-ever recession last quarter, is forecast to expand by 1.2 percent this year after a 5 percent contraction in 2009, according to median economist estimates compiled by Bloomberg. Unemployment will average 8 percent this year and 7.9 percent next year, the estimates show.

        “The question here is less when fiscal retrenchment ought to start, but rather how credible it is that sufficient retrenchment will take place,” Moody’s said.

        Sir E predicts Darling will put forward a smoke and mirrors giveaway (but take back in the small print) budget based on fantasy 3.5% growth in 2010.

        Meanwhile McDoom spins about reducing the deficit (i.e increasing the debt but at a slower rate) His next trick will be the ‘my cheque’s in the post’ line.

        Sir E says send in the tanks and use the socialist heat seeking missiles.

  6. 6

    No wonder, no surprise: the banksters go on as before, so do the politicians.

    • 28
      Dan Brusca says:

      The culprit is the wording in Moody’s report, which states:

      “On balance, we believe that the ratings of all large AAA governments remain well positioned, although their ‘distance-to- downgrade’ has in all cases substantially diminished”

      Take from that whatever suits your political bias.

      • 179
        Pitnicker says:

        Reading between the lines: “They’re not /really/ triple AAA any more, but we don’t want to be the ones to break the bad news and get sucked into a media-political sh*tstorm.”

  7. 7
    School for Scoundrels says:

    Are you sure? Only I have just bought a load of rechargeable AAAs, and it would be a bit of a bastard if I can’t use them. Environment and all that…

    • 70
      IainM says:

      You have plenty of toilet tissue then for when the shit really hits the fan! Which it will after Broonie and labour rig the election!

      • 84
        South of the M4 says:

        But he has thought of that. 13 years on inaction on any credible energy policy means that soon there will be nothing to power the fan.

    • 113
      Lord G says:

      SFS – this is, in fact, great news for you. When your AAAs are downgrade to AAs you will find they have grown and will fit in many more appliances.

      Another fine reason to vote for Gordon…

    • 224
      The Duracell Bunny says:

      AAs are ok for the bigger devices!

  8. 9
    Gordon Brown says:

    Britain lead the world out of recession!

  9. 12
    trader says:

    The UK economy is more fucked up with debt and unsustainable deficits than Greece, Spain, Italy, Portugal and Ireland combined.

    Get out of sterling if you can. It is heading for parity with the dollar, and around 1.40pence to the euro.

  10. 14

    i thought we were good at the 3 A’s

    Alcoholism
    abortion
    absenteeism

  11. 16
  12. 17
    Maladroit Labour Chump says:

    Gordon, oh Gordon you’ve taken us for fools.
    You lied about Prudence and your ‘Golden Rules’.
    You plundered our pensions and decimated our savings,
    We’re fed up of listening to your ‘global’ ravings.
    Blair claimed you’re a genius; he lied to us too.
    The ‘British’ economy is in deep doggy-doo.
    ‘No BOOMS, NO BUSTS !’ you used to shout out.
    That was all hubris, of that there’s no doubt.

    You bang on and on about your Presbyterian daddy,
    Born a son of the manse and raised in Kircaldy.
    Now how would he regard you, with disgust or with pride ?
    Having watched you for years as you stood there and lied ?
    You’ve ruined this country, we’ve become a basket case.
    Moody’s and the others plan to remove our triple A’s
    Yet you’re still in denial, saying we’re ‘uniquely placed’
    Have a long look in the mirror, your reflection is two-faced !

    I saw you just recently on the Andrew Marr prog,
    The look on your face was unusually hang-dog
    You said you’d prepared a ‘Decade of Shared Prosperity’.
    I think you’re deluded-it would be more Marxist Austerity !
    You bored me to tears with your grandiloquent prolixity,
    A dull raft of statistics in a broadcast of mendacity.
    Then you told us that yours is the Party of aspiration!
    You’re clutching at straws, man; that’s total desperation !

    In the early days of 2010 a few chumps tried to shaft you
    I’ve got the strangest feeling that this wont be the last coup.
    Yet once again the Dark Lord came riding to your rescue.
    The public all think you should be end up like Ceacescu.
    You’re ‘getting on with the job’ of rebuilding the economy,
    Stop trotting out these phrases with predictable monotony.
    You’re sending us to sleep trying to explain your ideology.
    The only thing we’re interested in is the action of psephology!

  13. 22
    dutchy holland says:

    Pound at $1.20, BA in liquidation, no London Transport buses/underground and oh I nearly forgot, the small problem regarding a deficit of £180bn. I do however consider myself the best man for the difficult times ahead !!! What is it about these people who study HISTORY !! Brown clearly wants to be part of it.

  14. 24
    Gordon Brown says:

    My flight from Washington to London ‘Started in America you know’

  15. 29
    Red Dwarf says:

    What position is our economy in the world? I forgot to look.

  16. 35
  17. 37

    *Ashok Kumar, Labour MP, dies*

    http://www.ashokkumar.org.uk/uploads/918e355b-9a43-f164-49a3-e5eb3bb812b4.jpg

    The guy in the middle’s sphincter must be moving in and out around 120 times a minute at the moment.

    • 44
      jgm2 says:

      Fucking great. Another useless Labour MP gets his call-up papers. More like this please God.

      http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8568583.stm

      What can this mean?

      “sudden accidental death”.

      • 53
        Baboon's arse says:

        He choked on his karma.

        • 119
          Argy Bargy says:

          The poor guy was in a korma for a few hours before he died.
          They reckon playing him tapes of Gordons voice finished him off.

      • 54
        frank gardner says:

        Pizzaboys back from Dubai?

      • 55
        The Dirty Rat says:

        I have only two words: Autoerotic Asphyxiation.

        Fu*king wanker.

        • 129
          Susie says:

          “A police spokesman said: “At this stage it is too early to say whether the death is being treated as suspicious and inquiries are ongoing.”

          Have they looked into the possibility it was Co-codamol and a blunt penknife again?

    • 46
      Lucy Berger says:

      Peter Mandelson looking for a safe seat?

      • 117
        Susie says:

        OOOH… naughty naughty. But probable.

      • 154
        The BBC = NUnite Labour says:

        This seat is in a perect monkey hanging area for Peter. Middlesbrough is a top shit-hole where they will vote for a donkey wearing a turban if it had a red rosette pinned to it.

        I can see it now, Lord Mandelson of Foy & Shit-hole

        • 171
          Geordie Scoot says:

          He would have to renounce his title, and I think Lord Fondlebum is too precious to give up being a nob. Furthermore, he is the wrong colour for South Middlesbrough.

          • Hang The Bastards says:

            Actually he is Middlesbrough South, which is a rich-middle class area, was a Conservative seat until the last election.

            The useless Hunt knew he would be getting outsted because he is a useless wanker who stood-by and watched as thousands lost their jobs at Corus.

            I wouldnt be surprise if the police say he was found with a steel girder stuck in his head.

            Good riddance to utter foreign shite !

        • 225
          Life long Conservative voter says:

          Corus Steelworks farce might impact on the core Labour vote in Middlesbrough?

    • 152
      Geordie Scoot says:

      So farewell Ashok Kumar,
      Your “sudden accidental death must have been a shok,
      For soon, you will be ash, ok?

      (Apols E J Thribb)

      • 221
        Purpleline says:

        Rumour has it he was about to tell the World a few secrest about the Tata scam

    • 169
      ROFLMAO says:

      Allah Akbar

  18. 38
    I keep hitting him and the bastard comes back says:

    I had a nightmare about that scenario…or, like you was it a vision?

  19. 41
    The Dirty Rat says:

    You can hear his jaw dropping and Darth Vader gasps.

  20. 42
    I am terrified says:

    I rasie you:

  21. 47
    Mr Ned says:

    The difference is, the US sets the standard for the dollar and has the world’s reserve currency.

    OK that situation is becoming more tenuous, but for so long as the US Dollar is the world’s reserve currency and mode global trade is carried in dollars, they have a much greater resistance to the impact of debt.

    However, IF the Euro, or a future Eurasian dollar becomes more widely used, and the Chinese and then the rest of the world cease to use the US dollar as a reserve currency, then America’s economy will be utterly fucked. It will be the biggest collapse of an empire the world has seen for thousands of years.

    • 67
      Chinese Democracy says:

      But China holds more dollars than America Mr Ned.
      And China is experiencing hyper inflation in the housing market.
      Funny that a credit bubble in the Chinese housing market is going to finish of the American economy, isn’t it.
      It’ quite ironic really considering it was sub-prime lending that caused so much damage to the American economy and now China is repeating the mistake but on a far, far grander scale.

      • 103
        America..a question of time says:

        China will sink the dollar to save the yuan if necessary

        Once hyperinflation kicks into gear, Chinese authorities will find it impossible to bring it under control without sacrificing the dollar. Since hyperinflation would hurt Chinese exporters as much as losing their US exports, China will face a clear cut decision. By dumping the dollar peg and selling its USD holdings, China will help contain domestic inflation in many ways:

        1) China will no longer be printing massive quantities of yuan to support the dollar.
        2) By selling dollars in exchange for yuan, China will be able to take those yuan out of circulation, shrinking its monetary base.
        3) Since the yuan will strengthen enormously again foreign currencies, Chinese exports will fall and that means there will be a lot more goods available for domestic consumption.
        4) Since the yuan will be stronger against foreign currencies like the dollar, Chinese imports will rise. That means cheaper commodity prices across the board.
        5) Dropping the dollar peg will make the yuan a major reserve currency. That means lower interests rates in China as foreign central banks build up yuan reserves.

        • 161
          Blue Rosette says:

          Hyperinflation is not that far away.

          These muppets in the west will keep printing for sure.

          We have been enjoying the last fix before going cold turkey.

          What do you need to do now?

          Reduce your debt – ideally start paying it off totally
          Any savings pensions put into safe currencies and/or gold/silver bullion – not paper
          Reduce at all costs all the “nice to have” not “need to have” expenditure.

          We will have deflation for a little longer so if you want to sell those illiquid “assets” don’t chase the market down, get rid of them now. Cash will be king a little longer.

          • El Kevo says:

            Actually, wouldn’t you be better holding on to your debt (or increasing it) and fixing your interest rates ?

            That way your debt is diminished by hyperinflation and you are protected by the fixed rate. You end up quids in. Stock up on tangibles now.

          • El Kevo says:

            This was in response to Blue Rossette at 3.59hrs

            Anyone have any ideas where interest rates could go ?

      • 209
        IainM says:

        Awe fuck we cant sell you opium anymore and we are sitting on fileds of the stuff in Afghanistan!

  22. 49
    Baboon's arse says:

    Today I defended the Gorgon.

    Somebody said that Bruin didn’t have the social skills of a pig and I replied that he did.

  23. 51
    Gordoom Brown says:

    Just as soon as I find my mobile phone I shall be ringing those stupid f*%kers at Moody’s. Who the hell do they think they are. They don’t understand anything do they. I have a mandate with the people (and Peter). I am doing the right thing. What do they know. It started in America. There will be no cuts, just investments.The fence budget went up year on year. The commanders got everything they wanted. We are not beholden to Unite.

  24. 52
    jgm2 says:

    Labour have had their turn at the wheel. They’ve borrowed and squandered for 13 years and now there is nothing left to borrow so they’re reduced to printing money. And faced with this self-realisation of their utter incompetence what do they do? Change direction? Admit they made a mistake?

    Fuck no.

    They spend the past two years printing and squandering money and setting the country up for a series of class-based strikes the sooner to get another go at the wheel.

  25. 57
    sockpuppet #4 says:

    I bet its not worth £5k. Certainly not any more.

  26. 59
    Conservative HQ says:

    Just get Fawkes to keep knocking the pound and then when it drops we can blame Labour and he will make a few quid out of gambling on the fall.
    It’s a win-win.
    Better keep it quiet though as it is a very unpatriotic and politically opportunistic thing to do betting against your own currency.

    • 65
      Labour/Unite HQ says:

      Why don’t we ruin British Airways?
      After all we have screwed the economy succesfully enough.

      • 77
        NUnite-Labour says:

        Dromey and Whelan say….‘Loadsamoneyyy’

      • 78
        jgm2 says:

        Aye. Y’all did such a fucking terrific job with British Coal, British Steel and British Leyland it must really kill you that BA evaded your idiocy for a full two decades longer.

        Still, never too late to destroy British jobs in Labour/Union/KGB’s proxy war against the British eh?

    • 68
      Just a bloke says:

      If you can’t blame Thatcher blame a blogger, what desperate twats you soviet cock-suckers are!

      • 99
        The Tories Hate Britain and All It Stands For says:

        Knocking the pound is not on my old china.
        Be a man and stand up for your country.

      • 128
        Archer Karcher says:

        The Lab zombies are utterly desperate, they have absolutely nothing to offer. Like their head criminal and sociopath Brown, the zombies distort reality to fit their own pathetic and discredited experiment. ZaNuLabour are finished, they successfully killed themselves, though they are too stupid to realise it just yet.

        • 140
          jgm2 says:

          Hmmm. I’m not so sure. I reckon they’ll get their P45 in June alright but the economy is so poisoned that the electorate will not like the medicine that needs to be taken. Plus Unite and the rest of the unions will be spoiling for a fight from day one. The outrageous public sector wage demands will be hitting Dave’s desk even before he gets there.

          There’ll be strikes, shrieking nurses, mass marches all summer long. Meanwhile the economy will be barrelling down the shitter while Dave is distracted by all this Union/Labour/KGB shite.

          Labour have deliberately destroyed the economy just so that the Tories will get the blame for the desperate measures that will have to be taken and then they (Labour) can get in again in 2015 after the Tories have (hopefully) taken the measures that Brown was to calculating and cynical to take himself.

          the evil fucking bastards.

          • Susie says:

            I think that faced with the inevitable public sector strikes by teachers etc (yes even the nurses) we should be preparing a citizens’ workforce…

            I know lots of skilled and educated people who’ve been sitting on their hands out of work (let’s face it if you lose your job when you’re over 40 you’re buggered) and they could be enrolled to set up schools, study groups, clinics etc. — they can hardly be any worse than what we’ve got now.

        • 146
          The Tories Hate Britain and All It Stands For - Just Like New Labour, Just Like Them says:

          I am not a Labour supporter, I am just a guy who is saying don’t knock the pound when it is on its knees.
          You Tories are just as bad as Zanulabour, you are happy to knock the pound if it scores you political points.
          Tribalists like you are just as treacherous as the New Labour flesheating zombies.

          • jgm2 says:

            How can you highlight the economic idiocy of Labour without drawing attention to the fact that they have destroyed the economy and the currency?

            It benefits nobody but Labour if we keep our gobs shut about the idiocy at large in the land.

            And whether we highlight the fact or not the markets aren’t being driven by Mavis Riley changing her life savings into Euros or gold coins. The markets are fully aware of the idiocy and are acting accordingly.

            It is not bloggers highlighting market movements who are dissing the pound. It is the Maximum Imbecile’s policies that have trashed the economy and the pound.

          • IainM says:

            You are talking pish!

  27. 62
    I hate New Labour says:

    Want to bet that any decision is taken *after* May 6th?

  28. 63
    ONLY A HUNG PARLIAMENT WILL PREVENT OUR AAA RATING FROM BEING LOST says:

    A hung parliament will stabilise the economy as it will mean no sudden moves in either direction.
    The markets like stability, don’t they?

  29. 71
    Stepney says:

    problem is they are such a fucking shower in downing street they think a AAA rating is something to do with batteries.

  30. 80
    BillyBob - Stop immigration, reduce crime !! says:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/7428933/Muslim-gangs-imposing-sharia-law-in-British-prisons.html

    Don’t we just love Labour and all they support and stand for !!

  31. 82
    Guido talks shit again says:

    Get a fucking clue before you post this shite Guido. The UK government remains solid AAA material however much you’d like to whip up a storm that it is faltering.

    See:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8567682.stm

    • 114
      Scott says:

      never believe the Brown Broadcasting Corporation. They want NuLiebour re-elected

    • 115
      The BBC = NUnite Labour says:

      Yeah, we are impartial and dependable innit

    • 116
      Martin Day says:

      did you write it fore the bbc?

      I know who I’d believe.

      “Brown is a compulsive liar, he has no truth in his soul. He’s a Liar”

      IT’S NOT ONLY BROWN WHO HAS NO TRUTH IN HIS SOUL, IT’S THE WHOLE OF LIEBOUR.

    • 132
      Sir Everard Digby says:

      Not so fuckwit -go read the Bloomberg article in full,not the selective BBC edit. The storm has already been whipped up by McRuin and co.

    • 136
      Moody's Investors Services. says:

      These two governments (US & UK) face the biggest interest repayments relative to the size of their incomes, compared with other economic giants.

      In light of the muted (subdued) recovery, discretionary fiscal adjustment (printing money & higher taxes) is now the principal means of repairing the damage that the global crisis has inflicted on government balance sheets,” says Pierre Cailleteau, managing director, Moody’s Sovereign Risk Group.

      Cutting government spending could jeopardise economic recovery and damage governments’ power to tax. However, postponing spending cuts for too long is also a risk, effectively “testing the patience of the market”. This could lead to rising interest rates, reducing the ability of governments to raise debt in the future.

      Looks like he said “fucked if we do & fucked if we don’t”. How is that AAA?

      • 205
        Peasant says:

        The U.S. would be the “most affected” under the adverse scenario, as the only country that would face a downgrade, Cailleteau said. The company’s baseline scenario assumes that all current AAA sovereigns will keep their ratings over the next three years, he said.

        As Sir E says, “go read the Bloomberg article in full”

    • 232
      john mackie says:

      March 15 (Bloomberg) — The U.S. and the U.K. have moved “substantially” closer to losing their AAA credit ratings as the cost of servicing their debt rose, according to Moody’s Investors Service.

      The governments of the two economies must balance bringing down their debt burdens without damaging growth by removing fiscal stimulus too quickly, Pierre Cailleteau, managing director of sovereign risk at Moody’s in London, said in a telephone interview.

  32. 85
    BillyBob - Stop immigration, reduce crime !! says:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1258060/Gordon-Brown-Ill-remain-Labour-leader-lose-election.html

    Should read “When you lose ! “

  33. 86
    Catflap says:

    I see the Common people vid not as anti Conservative but as a metaphor for the way ALL politicians have fucked us,the people.
    Choose from the Set menu and kid yourself you have been given a choice but don’t be suprised when another plate of shit is brought to your table.

  34. 88
    McBroon Has Done For Us - We're all Doomed says:

    Simple, just include a small suffix and…

    AAARGH!

  35. 89
    BillyBob - Stop immigration, reduce crime !! says:

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article7062249.ece

    He who pays the piper calls the tune………… so late in making a comment on the BA strike situation, must have had to wait until UNITE gave the green light !

  36. 90
    sockpuppet #4 says:

    Pierre Cailleteau?

    I wonder if he remembers agincourt. or for that matter not the nine o’clock news.

  37. 91
    Using a death to get sympathy votes is low but all part of ZaNew Labour says:

    I think we should all vote for Labour because Brown’s beard had a child who died. It’s the right thing to do.

  38. 93
    The IMF is coming says:

    Read the update.
    Article written on behalf of the Labour Party by the BBC

  39. 96
  40. 97
    Raving Mad says:

    **** BREAKING NEWS****

    David Beckham has died. The pundits still reckon this will not affect his chances of appearing at the World Cup

    In the meantime

    Questions about the BA strike – in the House of Lords…..????surely some mistake????

    • 122
      Scott says:

      The BBC wants Brown re-elected, so there is a concerted news agenda operation going on. They will remove any anti-Labour news story and replace a) with any David Beckham, b) any other Tory bashing story, and c) any other story except the real Labour sleaze story. You get the drift?

  41. 106
    Martin Day says:

    Evidence emerging of a party within a party again in Liebour.

    Why would you give over £11m in 3 years to some one for nothing in return?

    A BBC report quoted there being at least 160 Liebour MPs associated with the Unite union.

    And lets not forget

    Charles Alexander James “Charlie” Whelan (born 3 February 1954, north-east Surrey) is political director of the British trade union Unite. He rose to prominence as spokesperson for Labour politician Gordon Brown from 1992 to 1999.

    Now back spinning too for Gordon

    Then there is Jack Dromey, parachuted into a safe seat.

    Why on earth would you want to be an ordianry liebour member when only unite can call the shots?

    And you thought you got rid of a party within a party in liebour when Kinnock defeated Militant?

  42. 108
    Moley says:

    The logic is that if a country is set on a course to breach the 12% GDP debt servicing costs, then the AAA rating should be automatically lost once the trajectory becomes clear.

    It is better to force the driver of the school bus to put the brakes on before he goes over the edge of the cliff, not wait until it is too late.

    We are now at the point of “When?”, the “If” has already been answered.
    Given that Government forecasts are always excessively optimistic, on our present course we will be in the sh*t sooner than anybody expects.

    The rating should be restored once the necessary policies are in place to avert disaster.

    • 118
      jgm2 says:

      You’re right Moley. The ratings agencies have already given clear warning that they don’t like the direction the Maximum Imbecile is headed in but since he’s due for a P45 soon then they’ll not trash the UK debt-rating until they see that Cameron is going to get a grip.

      If Labour or a hung parliament influenced by the Maximum Imbecile results then it’ll be down-grade time by return of post.

      Not that I give a shit. Higher interest rates = more money for me plus cheaper houses.

      • 135
        Engineer says:

        Gilts with a 10% coupon, anybody?

        Good for savers, not so good for taxpayers.

        • 160
          jgm2 says:

          The outcome will be neutral for taxpayers – in fact it might be overall better for taxpayers. I’ll explain.

          There is only so much money the government can screw out of taxpayers. That figure/percentage has been long-since passed. So the borrowing has to stop. We will have to balance our budget. Higher taxes won’t work because it will just put more and more people out of work. So the government will just have to balance the budget. It doesn’t matter to the taxpayer if a balanced budget is spent on loan repayment or box-tickers. The money has gone. There is no more money to be taken.

          In all likelihood more money will be spent on loan repayments and less on box-tickers which will have a virtuous effect on the economy since an unemployed box-ticker costs only a fraction of the cost of an ‘employed’ box-ticker.

          Higher interest rates mean cheaper house prices so young families will once again be able to afford their homes instead of putting themselves in hock for 25 years.

          10% interest rates coupled with P45s for all of Browns made up ‘jobs’ are just what is needed.

    • 229
      Glenn Beck says:

      I wonder if any of the agencies will have the guts to downgrade the rating just before May 6th – if you wanted to ensure that the UK Bus was steered in the right direction by the British people, then this would be the optimum time to strike.

  43. 110
    Martin Day says:

    So many analagies with prior to 1979 with the unions again destroying the country. Who says history never repeats itself? And liebour again involved heavily with union influence.

  44. 120
    Martin Day says:

    Who Are The New Breed of “Sponsored” Labour MPs?

    A party within a party?

    Why dont liebour just change their name to “UNITE”

    But perhaps of even more significance is the fact that in the same scenario, more than 50% of Labour MPs will also be first timers. Who are these people? Anecdotally, nearly half of them will be wholly owned subsidiaries ofsponsored by the UNITE union. Perhaps Labour should consider changing its name.

    http://iaindale.blogspot.com/

    • 182
      Archer Karcher says:

      “Why dont liebour just change their name to “UNITE””

      Give them time, the comrades will have to rebrand after this poxed government are consigned to the dustbin of history once again.

      I don`t think New New Labour will work somehow.

      The first decade will have to be spent distancing themselves, from the “old” tax and spend, class warrior, wealth destruction, social engineering, freedom hating, warmongering, New Labour. Then come up with a catchy ditty and of course the essential ingredient, a charming con man.

      By then the economy will be restored to some form of well being and the gullible public will be drawn in to yet another socialist big bang, boom and bust and the entire circus repeated ad infinitum.

  45. 124
    mandelpeed says:

    Ha ha – an evil Nu Liebore scum-sucking animal dies.

    The lying thieving black pig, Ashok Kumar, fell down fucking dead this morning (hooray!). He was scum trash who went into politics to thieve from taxpayers.

    As you might expect (being a token black in the Nu Liebore multicultural destruction of Britain) he claimed the most he possibly could at all times, and was a fat slimy pig-faced bastard from gluttony.

    Rot in Hell you black Nazi Nu Liebore pig bastard.

    • 131
      Berry & Burns, Undertakers to the Nobility and Gentry (and thieving hoons) says:

      You’ll not be attending the funeral tea, then?

    • 138
      BillyBob - Stop immigration, reduce crime !! says:

      Pity that other local MP Stuart Bell did not go the same way !

      • 142
        BillyBob - Stop immigration, reduce crime !! says:

        I bet the family forget to STOP claiming expenses, benefits and anything else not screwed down!

    • 147
      The Dirty Rat says:

      Thieving, it’s in their genes.

      • 162
        Sandy says:

        Indeed – The grabbing token Nu Liebore black pig, Trevor Phillips, has a nice ploy of making useless blacks at the “Equality and human rights” bollox quango, redundant, with massive pay-outs, then rehiring them.

        Also, he seems to have something going on with the dirty old slag, Harriet Harman, as she appointed him to 3 more years on the “Equality and human rights” gravy train (£112,000pa for pasrt-time work), without reference to any public scrutiny whatever, even though the loathsome black has a history of corruption, cronyism, and hatred and intimidation of whites.

        • 173
          Peter Carter-Fuck says:

          Once they try black, they never go back. You don’t think Jack Dromey’s tiny little wiener puts a smile on Hatty’s face do you?

    • 158
      Geordie Scoot says:

      The fact that he is dead will not stop him getting re-elected in South Middlesbrough – the votes have already been posted.

      • 175
        BillyBob - Stop immigration, reduce crime !! says:

        British West Hartlepool and the monkey come to mind!

      • 177
        jan says:

        Ha ha ha – funny by true.

        Of course the electoral commission see nothing suspect about 9500 men called Gupta living in the same one bedroom flat, and all posting their votes in for a Nu Liebore token black, with the face of pig.

  46. 139
    The PM shoudn't be disturbed but this cunt is says:

    Oh dear, I fear the typists, and general little people in No10 are going to be receiving a fearful battering when this news reaches the Fuhrer and Boorman Balls.

    I am hoping very much the Loony or one of his henchmen will be asked by Cameron about why it is moral to pay more in debt interest than we pay on our edyukashuns innit

  47. 141
    Pole Star says:

    Forgive me but am I missing something?
    Has it been said elsewhere – above etc?

    BUT

    This BA / UNITE fracas is the same as Tory vs NuLab !!
    BA wants to CUT NOW – UNITE doesn’t really want to cut at all!

    LIKEWISE the UK budgets

    NuLab = DO NOTHING
    Tories = CUT NOW

    BA won’t go bust if it cuts now
    UK is bust but stands a chance if it addresses the problem now

    My point is –

    The Tories should be using this as an example of -
    The right thing to do

    Not just politely asking NuLab not to take any UNITE cash !!

    • 151
      Toryboy100 says:

      Agreed

      The Tories must make more of this – Brown fears this situation like no other

      The Tories must use this as a practical situation to illustrate their policies

      Come on Osborne – get it done – NOW!

      Is any Tory CCHQ member listening?

      Do it now – Brown is FRIT !!!

    • 165
      Geordie Scoot says:

      My experience of BA cabin crew is either of the highly-strung devotee of Judy Garland who is “in between” theatrical jobs, or the sour-faced moody cow who was once a model in the 1970′s. Both with a huge sense of entitlement and a work ethic that would shame a scouser with a 25-year sick note. Perhaps they are a micro-cosm of what our country has become.

      • 186
        This Tat says:

        and geordies are jocks with their brains kicked in

      • 198
        Susie says:

        And those are only on duty for the outward flight… the return flight is staffed by bitch-faced concentration camp guards who get angry if you make the slightest request instead of going to sleep, so they can finish off the chardonnay undisturbed.

  48. 143
    Midside says:

    meanwhile Gordon gets the hoped for distraction.
    http://www.thetreeofliberty.com/vb/showthread.php?t=95995

  49. 145
    Mrs Khan says:

    I think this country has lapsed into a hypnagogic state and the government has been living in some dreamworld in regards to dealing with the economy. Boom without Bust is just one of New Labour’s hallucinations and those illusory WMD’s. We have been living the British dream and are now awakening from the nightmare that is New Labour.

  50. 148
    Cato Street Conspirator says:

    ‘The U.S. and the U.K. have moved “substantially” closer to losing their AAA credit ratings as the cost of servicing their debt rose, according to Moody’s Investors Service.’

    So let me get this straight – it’s Labour’s fault that Bush and the Republicans fucked up the American economy?

  51. 153
    Anonymous says:

    Seven per cent?

    Of all tax?

    Jesus Fuck.

  52. 170
    Peasant says:

    Umm, how about reading the whole article?

    The U.S. would be the “most affected” under the adverse scenario, as the only country that would face a downgrade, Cailleteau said. The company’s baseline scenario assumes that all current AAA sovereigns will keep their ratings over the next three years, he said.

    So Cailleteau says that he assumes that all AAA countries will keep their ratings, but if one of them will lose it, it is most likely to be the US. In fact Cailleteau specifically says the US would be .. the only country that would face a downgrade

    Sheesh, you lot are such big girls’ blouses. I bet you are scared of spiders too.

  53. 174
    Geordie Scoot says:

    I feel more comfortable with women – less chafing than “Mr Fist” or a Brazilian Boy’s derriere.

  54. 181
    BillyBob - Stop immigration, reduce crime !! says:

    Just a touch of arrogance is still within Labour…..

    • 184
      BillyBob - Stop immigration, reduce crime !! says:

      Kinnocks…..well there is another gravy train chugging along very nicely!!

  55. 185
    I'm no leavin an you canna mek me says:

    McLoon stating that he won’t leave Downing Street if he loses the election can’t help either.The markets view that Gordon is a nutter have just been confirmed by the man himself

  56. 187
    Moley says:

    Well I followed Guido’s link;

    UK Credit Rating Viewed As Safe

    And it’s one of those famous BBC articles where the headline says one thing and the body of the text says the exact opposite.

    Nobody in their right mind would consider that the text justified the headline, which is pure Pravda.

    Is there anybody in the BBC who hasn’t been castrated?

  57. 194
    This Tat says:

    Clarkson on yesterday with guns. luvly

  58. 197
  59. 203
    This Tat says:

    maggie she say no to BA strike.

  60. 208
    Obo says:

    somebody please wipe my botty.

  61. 210
    Ernst & Young auditors extraordinary says:

    Moody’s rating of Lehman Brothers before the crash – AAA+.

    We did well didn’t we!

    Are their ratings any more accurate now?

  62. 212
    previuos name UK PLC,proposed names says:

    Standard and Poors still says AAA

  63. 214
    Anonymous says:

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>BREAKING NEWS REUTERS<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    The EU admonish Gordon Brown and the UK government over the budget deficit and calls on the UK to make bigger cuts.

    This is + for Osborne and a big minus for that Hunt Cable and the big Hunt darlingBrown

  64. 215
    Cassandrina says:

    LibDems will definately vote with Brown since they believe they can then manipulate control over Brown and his regime.
    Problem with this “strategy” is their ambition is well ahead of their basic capabilities and they will fail badly, and again the country will suffer.
    Personally I do not believe it will be a hung parliament and that LibDems will lose out as most people believe they are opportunists and Clegg has no stature.

  65. 216
    Cassandrina says:

    Back to the original statement.
    Warren Buffet’s Hathaway lost its AAA rating to AAa some weeks ago.
    I would rather invest with him than the UK in the medium term.

  66. 217
    Purpleline says:

    EU tell Britain and Brown you stupid Hunts get your debt down. Or words to that effect in diplomatic speak.

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE62E3XH20100315

  67. 219
    Purpleline says:

    Finish Doctor ready to amputate Beckhams leg as Hospital fields and fends off calls from number 10 downing street who want Brown to go to the Hospital for a photo op.

    Posh and Milan team as well as the FA have banned Brown from any annoucements or visits to Beckham.

    Gordon has said he will give David a Knighthood when he leaves office in 6 weeks

    • 220
      Purpleline says:

      Sry Gordon feels his pain, as when he was a wee nipper pklaying Rugby, when his eye popped out, he lost both Achilles heels a knee cap and he suffered a heart defect.

      Doctors in Jockland stated they do not believe the PM as he shows no sign of having a heart. But he does have a mangina, well used by lots of semen (sick) from the Scottish Navy. He is a Rum old chap

  68. 223
    Lizzie says:

    Britain needs to wake up, Brown and his Brownies want to stay in power and have their cushy numbers and free Jags. Labour are not for the people they are for themselves. As for Clegg he is a “Nowhere Man” along with his party. To save Britain the Conservatives need to get back into power, and get Ken Clarke to sort it all out….watch this space!



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