Blair – “I Survived”
Having claimed that the Iraq Inquiry had been called to satisfy conspiracy theorists, Guido understands that Tony Blair has been sending hand-written letters to some of his closet allies and pals who defended him in the run up to, and after, his Chilcot performance. As well as thanking them for their loyal on-screen defences of him, he called the legitimacy of the inquiry into question with an aside that the whole process has been “most improper – but anyway, I survived.”
Who was it that said Chilcot wasn’t a waste of time?
And so will Gordon Brown survive !!!!!
The Fat Lady hasn’t sung yet Tony
Brown will be very keen to support Blair at the inquiry, he needs all the support he can get at present.
It occurs to me how “Birds of a Feather Flock Together”
Worth repeating methinks…
“Name of the Beast:
The Socialised Psychopath or Sociopath
Also known as the corporate psychopath, workplace psychopath, industrial psychopath and administrative psychopath.
Motivation: power, gratification, personal gain, survival
Mindset: manipulation, deception, evil
Malice: high to very high; when held accountable, off the scale
Jekyll & Hyde personality
always charming and beguilingly plausible, especially to those who are capable of protecting or enhancing the sociopath’s position
excels at deception (this must never be underestimated, but always is)
excels at evasion of accountability
is extremely and successfully manipulative of people’s perceptions and emotions (eg guilt and anger)
silver-tongued, has an extreme verbal facility and can outwit anybody (including a top barrister) in verbal conflict
will often engineer himself or herself into a position of authority as gatekeeper of the organisation and thus the person through whom all information must flow, and the person to whom all requests for services must be referred – which he or she then takes delight in denying
is adept at offering weak and inadequate people the positions of power, control, security, influence or respect that they crave but who lack the necessary competencies to achieve – such people are unaware that their consequent dependence on the sociopath makes them permanent manipulatees, pawns and expendable agents of harassment
identifies those essential to the sociopath’s survival and manipulates their perceptions them by making them feel special and thus obligated to reciprocate with support and protection
manipulates others into making fools of themselves in situations where they cannot back down or from which they cannot withdraw – these people become increasingly susceptible to further manipulation and are then trapped as pawns in the sociopath’s game
is likely to be surrounded by people who, having been subjected to control, manipulation and punishment by the sociopath, look wretched and who start to exhibit behaviour best described as disordered, dysfunctional, sullen, aggressive, defensive, hostile, retaliatory, counterproductive or cult-like and for whom disbelief, disavowal and denial are instinctive responses
creates an environment where levels of denial are so great that those involved are oblivious of the foolishness and self-evident absurdity of their denials when presented with the facts, with the result that non-involved observers are led to question whether such levels of denial merit psychiatric intervention
is contemptuous of disrepute to their organisation and of collateral damage and of the destructive consequences for all direct and indirect parties
is always surrounded by and leaves behind a trail of dysfunctional organisations, destroyed businesses, ruined careers, stress breakdowns and unexplained suicides
despite a trail of devastation to individuals, organisations, families and communities, the actions of a socialised psychopath may go undetected or unrecognised for years
a history of conducting frivolous, vexatious and malicious legal actions, especially (but not exclusively) against anyone who can recognise the sociopath for what he is
only after the sociopath is exposed and relieved of position, or they move on, can the full depth of their destructive behaviour be fathomed and the consequences calculated
is skilled at identifying, undermining, discrediting, neutralising and destroying anyone who can see through the sociopath’s mask of sanity
at all times restricts the actions and rights of others (especially those holding the sociopath accountable) whilst aggressively protecting his or her right to do anything without being hampered by social norms or legal requirements
pursues endless vindictive vendettas against anyone perceived as a threat or who attempts, knowingly or unknowingly, to identify or reveal or expose the sociopath, or who makes efforts to hold the sociopath accountable
is adept at appropriating rules, regulations, procedures and law to manipulate, control and punish accusers regardless of relevance, logic, facts or consequences
persists in and pursues vindictive vendettas using self-evidently false evidence or information, even after this is brought to the attention of the sociopath
will often manipulate minor bullies of the Wannabe type (who on their own might or would not merit the label ’serial bully’) into acting as agents of harassment and as unwitting or unwilling conductors of vendettas
is adept at placing people in situations where the sociopath can tap into each person’s instinctive urge to retaliate in order to use them as his or her instruments or agents of harassment
gains gratification from provoking others into engaging in adversarial conflict
once conflict has been initiated, the sociopath gains increased gratification by exploiting human beings’ instinctive need to retaliate – this is achieved by encouraging and escalating peoples’ adversarial conflicts into mutually assured destruction
revels in the gratification gained from seeing or causing other people’s distress
when faced with accountability or unwelcome attention which might lead to others discerning the sociopath’s true nature, responds with repeated and escalating attempts to control, manipulate and punish
is adept at reflecting all accusations and attempts at accountability back onto their accusers
is adept at creating conflict between those who would otherwise pool negative information about the sociopath
has no limits on his or her vindictiveness
the need to control, manipulate and punish develops into an obsession with many of the hallmarks of an addiction
is skilled at mimicry and can plausibly and spontaneously regurgitate all the latest management jargon
exhibits minimal professional skill level and competency
exploits his or her intelligence to excel at talentless mediocrity
is always identifying the behaviours and strategies to which other people respond with the desired effect
is able to anticipate and credibly say what people want to hear
is easily able to win people over before betraying them or deceiving them or ripping them off
easily manipulates and bewitches an immature or naive or vulnerable or emotionally needy person to be their spokesperson or agent of aggression
exploits anyone who has a vulnerability
is pushy and extremely persuasive
is sexually inadequate and sexually abusive
is likely to protect anyone accused of or suspected of sexual abuse of pedophile activity, and will frustrate or obstruct investigations into that person
maybe associating with, or actively involved in, abuse or pedophile activity
has no emotions, no emotional processing capability and no ability to understand other’s emotions
is incapable of understanding, initiating or sustaining intimacy
the male sociopath has often convinced a string of women to feel they are in love with him and despite being treated abominably they blindly continue to be loyal to him and minister willingly to his every demand
may start projects with apparent enthusiasm and energy but quickly loses interest
frequently takes unnecessary and uncalculated risks but takes no account of consequences
is reckless and untrustworthy with money
is likely to be illegally diverting or siphoning off significant sums of money to his or her own budget, project, account or cause
is unreliable and untrustworthy in every facet of life
is likely to be leaking confidential information or secrets to third parties
is likely to have committed or be committing criminal or near-criminal offences, eg fraud, embezzlement, deception
is likely to have committed or be committing breaches of harassment and discrimination law, employment law, contract law, etc
disregards rules, regulations, Health and Safety requirements, professional standards, codes of conduct and legal requirements, etc
cannot comprehend the deeper semantic meaning of language and is thus unable to understand or appreciate metaphor, hyperbole, irony, satire etc (these elicit either zero response or a hostile response)
likes, seeks, enjoys and relies on procedure, ritual and ritualistic practices
through arrogant overconfidence takes increasingly risky chances and eventually overplays their hand or makes a mistake which leads to the sociopath revealing him or herself
exhibits parasitical behaviour, takes everything and gives nothing
grabs headline credit for minimal, flukey or other peoples’ success whilst surviving off the backs of manipulatees who are exclusively blamed for all failures
rarely blinks, may have stary scary eyes that cut right through you, or may avoid eye contact completely
is callous, cold and calculating
is devious, clever and cunning
is ruthless in the extreme
regards people as objects and playthings to be discarded when surplus to requirements
displays zero empathy
completely without conscience, remorse and guilt
malicious and evil
H/T http://www.bullyonline.org/workbully/serial.htm
It strikes me that in psychobabble that Blair is pure ‘ego’ and Brown is pure ‘id’ in Jungian terms.
Not good.
Monsters from the Id (The Forbidden Planet) that’s New Labour.
sorry i ve been on the booze
what was chilcott?
O/T
Jury Team is looking for candidates
new Manifesto includes
· Holding a referendum on the status of the UK within the EU
· Setting up an English Parliament on English matters
· Reducing the number of MPs by a third (from 650 to 433)
· Changing Commons elections to proportional representation
· Requiring referendums on petition by 5% of the electorate
· Limiting government borrowing to 10% of expenditure
· Protecting bank customer deposits from casino banking
· Limiting benefits to 80% of the after tax minimum wage
· Sentencing violent criminals to ‘army style’ punishment
· Limiting UK troops in Afghanistan to the NATO average
· Requiring private medical insurance for non-EU citizens
· Establishing a 10 year residence requirement for UK Citizenship
· Allowing state schools to opt out from local authority control
· Requiring stores to let customers leave excess packaging
http://www.juryteam.org/index.php
VOTE FOR CHANGE OR STOP COMPLAINING
Wayne Trombone: ‘Chilcott’ = a rather unwelcoming ‘Holiday Home’ in (insert own least favourite County).
jethro
that does clear it up
thanks
the county I would choose is non-London. a real shit hole.
Captain Birdseye, you only just posted that yesterday.
You are displaying several of the tendencies your post contains.
tit. wasne me…
No, it was f’ing me. Want to make something of it?
Multiple personalities, as I said, you are displaying several of the tendencies included in your post.
Make something of it? Another sociopathic outburst by Captain Birdseye, the man whose comments describe himself.
Sad little man.
I won’t let it worry me FSL…
Yes, you are, aren’t you.
I see everyones happy
While I keep these morons busy they have less time to pump out their propaganda.
My plan is working so yes, I am very happy indeed.
The Admiral and his boyfriend don’t like it up ‘em though.
Oh yes we do!
B£iar you may have survived but thousands of innocent civilians and British soldiers did not.
Good Headline for tomorrow’s SUN
they might miss out “innocent civilians” to make it fit.
That peaceful religion Islam we shouldn’t confront…
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2865019/Suicide-bomb-kills-Brit-convert.html
So that gives you an excuse to murder us, does it?
Ah, another Hasbarat stooge. Time you Israel fanatics fought your own wars instead of trying to dupe and bribe dumb Goy.
Israelis steal organs.
WOOLY BULLY (Domingo Samudio)
Uno, dos, one, two, tres, quatro
Matty told Hatty about a thing she saw.
Had two big horns and a wooly jaw.
Wooly bully, wooly bully.
Wooly bully, wooly bully, wooly bully.
Hatty told Matty, “Let’s don’t take no chance.
Let’s not be L-seven, come and learn to dance.”
Wooly bully, wooly bully
Wooly bully, wooly bully, wooly bully.
Matty told Hatty, “That’s the thing to do.
Get you someone really to pull the wool with you.”
Wooly bully, wooly bully.
Wooly bully, wooly bully, wooly bully.
Guido – “closet allies” – a letter missing, but how appropriate!
But her contract has been issued!
No he will be blamed for everything.
Perhaps Gordon will lose his rag and throw his nokia at Chilcot.
Or dave at PMQ’s!
Ooo yes please!
Afternoon sir…
LMAO
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BREAKING NEWS
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MS PRATT ABUSED BY PHIL WOOLAS MP – MAX CLIFFORD RETAINED
WATCH SUNDAY PAPERS – IT’S STILL GOT LEGS
Phil Woolas couldn’t scare the sparrows off my bird table
He is an absolute cnut though – I’d have thought that Pratt would eat him for breakfast, however indigestible it may be
A Phil Woolas mantrum doesn’t exactly put
the fear of god into anyone let alone the substantial
Ms. Pratt. My money’s on her.
Woolas is jew – so bullying and evil comes natural.
He’ll prolly go home and get out his videos of Palestinian babies being burned alive by jews with white phosphorus, before bumming his dog and working on new ways to thieve yet more money off taxpayers.
Aren’t jews loathsome?
He or his bank account survived? An odious man.
“”“most improper – but anyway, I survived.””"
The Cheeky bas*ard. All he was bothered about is his political career.
He needs parachuting into Helmand with sub standard body armour and an SA80 to see what real survival is like.
I and me, the two most important words in Bliars world.
Why waste the parachute?
and only 5 bullets don’t forget.
Bullets?
Fucking luxury.
Agreed, I would drop in in the middle Helmland province in a union flag T-shirt for armour. No gun, No helmet.
Did anybody bully this spawn-of-satan, wife of slotgob, noxious green phlegm of a turd, into writing these letters?
Just so waiting for him to appear anywhere near here during the election campaign. Tony, we await you.
The proceeds of crime act does not apply to New Labour ministers, present or otherwise. Bank accounts are safe, just ask Jacqui Smith.
In other words – “I can’t believe they fell for it!”
Suckers!!
Never give a sucker an even break.
…for now Blair, for now…
Blaire is the creep we all knew at schoolwho never got into trouble because he was always ready to land someone else in the crap instead. Nothing much changes, however sometimes creeps like him see the lucky streak come to shattering end. If and when it happens he will play the only card he has left by looking for public sympathy. Don’t believe a word of his ever, he is the creep who sold his friends down the swanny all along the way to his becoming PM.
History lasts a very long time, and is ultimately the only judge that really matters.
My suspicion is that history may not judge Bliar quite so positively as he might like.
Ain’t that the truth…
Still creeping around I see.
Afternoon, TaT.
I will neither confirm nor deny that presumptious comment.
Hi Eng.
Creepy. You must be Admiral posting under a different name.
Perhaps they could ask him about that when he returns. Or maybe not…
could someone also ask him why he waited until AFTER he left office to convert to Catholicism? Is it because you can not be a Catholic PM? Lily livered – bullied out of his job by Brown.
Bullied out of his job? what are you smoking?
Teflon tone could see the shit storm coming miles away and decided to ride off into the sunset high and dry and leave the idiots to get what they deserve.
I rather think you’re right. I had assumed that Blair was just a muppet who trusted Brown’s handling of the economy but his cultivation of wealth before and since does rather suggest he knew exactly what was going on all along.
So we have Blair to thank for the Brown Depression.
After all he should have fired the incompetent jackass as soon as it became obvious of the wrecking job he was doing to the economy.
That’s what kills me. It is obvious to everybody with an IQ bigger than a fish that this economy has been wilfully destroyed by Brown for purely political gain. It was obvious to Blair and I’m confident that it is obvious to the 350 self-serving Labour MPs. And yet they did it. They stood by, watched it happen and said and did nothing.
The entire Parliamentary Labour Party is every bit as guilty as the Maximum Imbecile for the economic destruction wrought by Brown.
And what of the remainder of Parliament?
If Brown’s sole motive was political gain, where were the strident, righteous and, more realistically, self-interested objections from the intended losers?
Deaf, dumb, blind, stupid and fellow-travelling Cons and Libs, self-afflicted with the dead sheep in attack mode syndrome.
A cynic might suspect common purpose collusion.
albacore
But the Tories were warning about the out of control borrowing. Machael Howard was warning about it back in 2005. Borrow and squander budget or somesuch.
But I can understand why you might not have heard about it. Auntie up to her old tricks again…
http://news.bbc.co.uk/newswatch/ukfs/hi/newsid_4350000/newsid_4357500/4357565.stm
Its a fact, far too many of them went native. Our local MP got quite sniffy when we ripped into him over the blair ovation bollocks, couldn’t see why we were making a fuss !
Blair should never have been forced into a pact with Brown – if he was the person that the Labour MP’s wanted for the job then that should have been that – he did not have to be made to agree with brown to step aside at some point – that must have added enormous pressure.
I don’t think Blair was forced into a pact with Brown – far from it.
From what I can gather, Blair’s constant line to the rump of the Foot-era Labour party was “keep quiet, let me sell it to the proles and just fall in behind me or you’ll be out of power for another 17 years”.
That was the job he did – keeping the lid on the old style “loony lefties”. If you stop to think about it, it goes a long way to explaining the spin, smear and coercion culture in the middle of Government today – it was the only “language” the old-style class warriors and union barons understood aside from “if the cracks start appearing, we’re out of power”.
All the while, Blair was only, ever looking towards his own gratification and enrichment. Didn’t give a toss what state he left things in, his “legacy”, who he handed over to or what promises he had to make in the meantime.
All a smokescreen.
So now the genie’s well and truly out of the bottle the problem is that the whole of the political establishment is truly discredited. People have got what can best be described as spin fatigue. We’ve been brutalised by political scandals, mass immigration, violent crime, low-level social disorder and the mis-application of law enforcement.
No-one believes that anything said by the politicos is anything other than expedient bullshit, few believe that any of them are in the game from a genuine desire to serve the public and none of them and we’re reaping the benefit in the form of what would have been regarded as extremist political elements gaining an acceptance in the mainstream.
Not for any CCHQ types out there : People just want to be left alone. Less Government, less interference in everyday life, the ability to say “fuck off” to over-empowered gauleiters, less legislation, more use of discretion and less taxation so we can decide how the money that we’ve earned is used.
.243 Win
Beautifully said sir…
If you want to rim .243 win, don’t do it in the corridor.
It’s not polite.
If you want to desperately try to make friends by creeping up to posters fuck off and do it somewhere else.
Thirded.
And welcome back tat.
jgm2, I am copying mossad and following a policy of ambiguity.
“Puhlease allow me to introduce myself, I’m a man of wealth and taste…”
tat, there is nothing ambiguous about burning children to death. Mossad are not to be admired. only slaughtered wherever they can be uncovered. They are evil personified.
Likewise for those HAMAS fuckers too!
We don’t ‘do’ God.
But we do do the Devil.
Interesting premise that he converted after he left office.
Don’t think that it would have made the NI situation any easier if a confirmed Catholic had been telling everyone on the Unionist side what the “right thing to do” was.
Good comment.
An interesting perspective on Blair and the peace deal is opened up.
And what about the Irish passports for his family?
Why did he want them, and what was the deal with the Irish Republic?
He wants a bolt hole in Ireland when the screaming crowd come after him in one of his palaces in the UK….
Tax advantages ?
You can be a Catholic PM, you cannot be a Catholic Monarch (of these islands.)
After hubris comes nemesis.
Feckin’ typical of the grinning ghoul.
Thinks he got away with it (and maybe did) but just had, absolutely had to put two fingers up as well.
Perhaps this should get out in a large way to remind the general populace what’s in store if they don’t flush ZaNu at the next opportunity.
He’s turned us into a bloody Banana Republic.
Phil Woolas has demonstrated that bullying will not be tolerated by Zanuliebour by calling Mrs Prat …… a prat!!!!! Watch it Phil or we will get you hand bagged by Joanna Lumley.
I can confirm that his nibs is the most wonderful husband in the whole world and bully is not a word he recognizes.
p.s. my weekly thrashing will be postponed until next week.
He even supplies my tampons
Woolas’ crass and dismissive description of Mrs Pratt (and his defence of Gordon Brown) on LBC was played without comment at the end of R4:WatO.
I think this could keep the fire burning for a while longer. At the moment I’m thirsting to break that hoon’s face and a few other listeners are probably similarly incensed.
Woolas has really scored a childish own goal.
Calling Mrs Pratt a prat… schoolboy humour and bullying.
The grown up line would be to say how surprised he was at Mrs Pratt publically stating what should be confidential information and leave it at that.
If these idiots were working for a company and came out with such “Ratnerisms” they would be out on their ear.
All the smearing of Mrs. Pratt does actually bring up verifyable, real facts, that make her “rather foolish”.
When faced with that, one is no longer surprised at what she did, and you don’t have to look for strings or strange motives, and doesn’t really detract from her actual message.
Which I reackon was, she doesn’t lick liars…
Woolas was the little creep who put ladies underwear and nappies on his MP’s expenses as well if I remember correctly…
But there has been such a deluge of filth from NuLabour in the last year or so that it is difficult to keep track of all their fraud, smearing, theft, abuse of power, incompetence, treason and other assorted offences…
I thought it was beneath even Woolas to make a joke out of someone’s name. Mrs Pratt seems to have come out fighting, and despite having some misgivings about what she did after she “saw red”, I hope that she has instructed Max Clifford. Then we’ll see what the holier-than-thou recently-resigned patrons were really frightened of.
Woolas, Johnson, Benn, Balls, Burnham, Woodward, Murphy, Cooper, Byrne, Hain, Ainsworth, Bradshaw
Can there ever have been a more incompetent bunch of third raters in the Cabinet?
Crassly incompetent
and humiliatingly sordid, nasty, dishonest and cheap for Britain and its image as well
Blair….. the International Criminal Court will get him eventually !
I doubt it, I bet he has a US passport tucked away just in case things get a bit hot for him in Europe.
His kids already have Irish passports.
so have Mos sad.
You are correct, there are a number of legal firms in Europe working on nailing Blair. I know of instructions to two international companies based in Belgium now after him. Like the post war Nazi hunters, they will ensure they are meticulous and bide their time. It took years to get Eichmann and the likes of Demanjuk, but they were nailed.
Or one of his bodyguards will… (Robert Harris has always written faction).
A note for the coalition’s emergency budget -
Must stop wasting money on bullshit inquiries.
‘anyway I survived’ ?! Does bliar the warmonger think he walked out of chilcott with his reputation intact? Did he think those howls of anger from the bereaved service families sitting in the audience were cheers? Is that why his hands were shaking as he gave evidence and he looked rather ashen under his tan when he left?
bullybrown will get the same treatment from the service families when he appears before chilcott on the 5th March, probably worse, because he was the man who cut the defence budgets and sent men to war ill-equipped and to their deaths.
I didn’t think thay had reached a conclusion yet.
But as everyone knows already, it is a whitewash.
Not looking forward to hours of tractor stats,’I was doing my best…courage of the troops…no budgetary contraints…etc etc.’ from Brown
Chilcott may yet surprise us – he’s not quite the spineless tow-rag that hutton was.
And actually bliar’s winge that ‘the Inquiry is not legitimate and the whole process most improper’ – gives me hope for the final outcome. Clearly bliar is setting the stage for his defense because he believes Chilcott might issue a damnng indictment on his decision to go to war.
Perhaps that’s why he was so desperate for a European post. I bet that they give automatic immunity to absolutely everything. Nothings too good for the Eurocrats.
Our EU masters and their senior civil service, do indeed enjoy immunity from prosecution. In the EU, only little people are subject to laws.
Well that is just fucking spiffing.
The only EU post I’d like Blair to have is the one they tie him to shortly before he’s shot.
Improper as in asking him questions?
Meanwhile the commie/Maoist takeover of EU top jobs continues apace under Ashton…
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8530206.stm
Baroness Ashton of Upthenetherlands demonstrating superbly the alarming supine toadyism that floated her to the top of the cesspit. Never mind, Susie, the EU is about to fall apart and flat on its face – if not Greece, then the next deserving basket case – and this has more historical inevitability than anything the marxists believe in. These so-called socialists cannot even follow their own mantras and learn from history: it’s the economy stupid, as China demonstrates. They were all too busy troughing to notice the train coming down the track, and the whole herd is about to made to fly like a bunch of puffed-up plastic pigs.
Expect to the see more of the same Ashton qualities from the crony toady Dame Suzi Leather as the Charity Commission is prodded into involving itself in the McBullyruinandblubber business – no expense will be spared to sacrifice Ms Pratt now, as offence to the cult of the dear revolutionary leader demands.
It’s an ill wind. While she’s being ordered to shut down Ms Pratt’s charity on some spurious pretext she won’t be creating hoops and hurdles for the finest schools in the land to jump through just to save a few fucking quid.
Before she gets “wound up”, Mrs Pratt should take all the evidence she has (and it is likely there were phone calls from no 10 staff given the endemic bullying – see the Times article this morning) and give it to a Privy Councillor whose can deal with it properly….while maintaining the “confidentiality”‘
This story may provide some real surprises yet…
I heard Ashton on the radio this morning. She sounded like a Spinster Librarian from Yorkshire
What’s wrong with spinster librarians from Yorkshire ? I’m shagging one tomorrow.
I bet that post has set the cat among the pigeons up at Harrogate Public Library!
Shit, Bruce ! How did you know it was Harrogate ?
It wasn’t my cover I was expecting to get blown tomorrow.
she is ;0)
Now we are beginning to see where a lack of accountability and democracy is going.
The next stage is an internal EU power struggle, followed by the emergence of a Gauleiter who crushes all dissent and is responsible for all appointments.
Cue Fourth Reich, although it might not necessarily be German.
Why were our politicians so stupid?
They were not stupid, they are, will be and have always been, handsomely rewarded for their collusion and treachery.
History will be his judge.
I agree but looks like they are going to be voted back in.
no opposition.
The polls are volatile and gordon hasn’t called an election yet. Who knows which way the polls will swing next week.
And lets not forget four of the last five poll results issued in the last five days have been low results for the tories published by YouGov.
YouGov is run by a man that is slavishly supportive of bunkerbrown. brown awarded his wife, catherine ashton the covetted job of EU foreign minister as a thankyou for YouGov support.
And why, when YouGov normally publish 3 or 4 polls a month , have they suddenly over the last five/six days published four all in a row?
So don’t despair all is not yet lost.
In ’97 it was not clear that Labour would win, even with their poll leads. Blair himself thought it possible he could lose, or at least only get a small majority.
When it comes to the crunch next time, who seriously will put a cross next to Labour? OK – the core vote, but it isn’t enough.
I predict a Cons majority of 50-75; Labour destroys itself; reform of the electoral system; and, of course, more crap government ad-infiinitum.
Mitch, one would hope so, but the postal vote issue ramains and you have to take account of so many votes having been ‘bought’ in the past 13 years. Remember, we had the opprtunity to rid ourselves of this bunch in 2001 and 2005.
In 2005 the majority of the English voted Conservative, our friends in the north, Scotland and Wales are incapable of freeing themselves from the withered teat of socialism.
Well, we can hope…
I also think the accuracy of polling this time around will not be so good.
Polls predict on the basis of an overall swing – ie the same percentage in all seats. This time around there is the added puzzle of how the expenses scandal will play in individual seats and the national polls cannot predict this.
The bercow and farage confrontation to come in Buckingham is a good example of that. Given the state of the polls (tories in the lead) and bercow being a tory (well just) then his lead , in his constituency should increase slightly. But farage has a powerful backer and looks likely to push bercow out. Don’t I wish!
Then there’s Moran’s constituency in Luton and the Esther Rantzen factor .
This election could actually be quite entertaining and produce some unexpected results.
exactly – the recent polls may suggest that Jacqui Smith will hold onto hear seat afterall but everyone knows that it will be an absolute bloodbath there.
Bloodbath?
Lucky she’s got a new plug.
Listening to Redwood on the Daily Politics it was so evident that he is frustrated by Cameron’s lack of Policies.
What YouGov do for McDoom, MORI (now IPSOS MORI) did for Bliar. Good ‘ole Bob Worcester got himself a KBE for “services to polling”.
Anyone remember Anthony King being an apologist for Blair ? He started the line that the economy was safe in ZaNu’s hands. Yeah, right, but he’s got a good cushy number with the “university” of Essex and he’s still keeping the old contacts up….
Bercow returns to Essex
So why why has one of the founders of Yougov been parachuted into a safe Tory seat in Stratford. Are they covering their bases with a Manchurian candidate?
A muslim as well isn’t he ? No doubt this is very er something or other of me, but if it were a choice between a Conservative candidate who is a muslim, and an extreme left winger with absurd ideas, i’m afraid I would always vote for the left winger. Its stupid I know ( thats the word I was looking for) but I just cannot assist in the process of forming a world wide caliphate.
I always tell YouGov that I’m undecided(which I’m not) I will vote Labour anyway(which I won’t) and that Brown is fantastic (which he ain’t)so take these results with a pinch of salt. I love f***ing up the Kellner Corporation and any other pollster that cares to ask
I suspect that several others polled/asked by pollsters are playing a double game too.
The only poll that really mattters is the one on the ectual polling day
well said my man
I too enjoy fucking up their polls – but am finding they are increasingly bad – plus don’t like the Kellner?Ashton connection and unelected – I said UNELECTED – positions they hold
When they ask me my intentions I reply’ putting an x against the candidate of my choice on polling day -fuck off and mind your own business’
Lets see if he can survive the tangerine bazooka brown will launch at him after he loses the election.
‘Incoming!’
Did somebody mention Brown’s tangerine bazooka?
I hear Peter Hain has a Tangerine Bazooka as well
I have one and so does my “wife”!!!
To show that there are no hard feelings, I sent Brown a boomerang.
Richard Littlejohn names Gordon Bullyboy Brown as a sociopath. I think he’s got it spot on:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1253000/Gordon-Brown-bullying-claims-Why-surprised.html
is Littlejohn trying to upset Brown, or something? doesn’t he realise the man has a job to get on with?
i saw littlejohn at a bruce springsteen concert once
What an inapproporiate comment to make…he ‘survived’, when thousands of others in his ludicrous war, the war he started then hadnt the courage to see through to the end, didnt.
Scum.
He survived, shame many hundreds of thousands of Iraqis did not. Is his life more important than theirs?
yes his life is more important he is Tony Blair dont ya know
Fuck off, the guy’s a raving
queerqueen. Twat fancies he’s a fucking Diva. ‘I will survive indeed’. By the way, why is he called Miranda?If that is surviving I hate to think what showing to be misguided, misleading parliament and needing to be called back to clear up some evidence would look like?
I didn’t survive.
Now that me made shed a tear… (true)
You must have been peeling onions when you heard the news.
but not forgotten.
God bless you.
God Bless you? You are the same moron who was threatening other posters with violence and now you are blessing Dr Kelly.
Fuck off you fake. Take your meds.
Just fuck off tat how many times does it have to be pointed out to you?
You shot your load, your yesterdays man like Brown. No one wants to hear you bang on again and again ad nauseum with your infantile rantings like a senile old fart plagued with haemorrhoids.
Repeating posts as you have done is the sign of a bore.
And you certainly are a bore. Look, you are clearly out of your league here, why don’t you fuck off to Conservativefoam or CIF and bore them with your repetitive unfunny garbage.
Good luck and goodbye.
RIP Dr Kelly. Justice will come to bliar one day
What I’d like to see is a royal presence at the premier of Polanski’s ‘The Ghost Writer”… that would get right up Slotgob’s (I won’t curtsey) nose.
I find the most irritating part the supercilious “most improper”, dropped insouciantly down to us impudent mortals from the haughtily pure lips of one who occupies moral ground of such elevation that the rest of us get neck ache just thinking about it. He is so caught up in his own lies and fantasies that he actually believes them.
“Most improper” is pompous and effeminate but better than the NuLabour “inappropriate” or “unacceptable”.
what an arrogant bastard Bliar is – he’s responsible for setting the bullying tone of this new labour travesty of a poxy government , you know!
My mama and papa did not survive the carpet bombing. My aunt died of dysentry because we had no clean water. Uncle was shot in the leg and died of gangrene because the hospitals had no medical supplies. My cousins all died when a suicide bomber blew himself up at the market square. My nana and grandpops took the bullet when the US came round for a visit. But hey, I survived the landmine attack.
But? You’ve got democracy now? And the dead girls could have gone to school?
They went to school before the war. Are you confusing this country with Afghanistan?
Chav makes a good point. Pre-invasion, Iraq was a properly functioning secular State, where Islamic headbangers did not get a look in, there were decent hospitals and schools, Saddam’s expansionist tendencies were well under control, girls were educated, Iran was countered…. just look at it now.
Yeah but they have DEMOCRACY now! the chance to get an inky thumb every now and then to choose who is going to fuck you over is surely worth all the death, torment, extremism and destruction.
Surely the oppurtunity to have a western style democracy like ours is all…..ahh….I see your point now….Ill get my coat….
I’m not a rich man but I’d pay five shillings for one of those letters.
I have a confession to make I once voted liberal democrat
I imagine you have a limp and clammy handshake as well.
You utterly contemptible worthless piece of ordure.
Do the planet a favour and hang yourself.
When I said that I had survived, what I meant was that the families of all those dead soldiers did not manage to get their hands around my scrawny neck.
Yet!
I’ve got a sore back
Whoever the fuckwitted, dribbling 33% of people are that are still prepared to vote for these war-mongering, economy destroying, lying scheming scumbags ought to be sectioned. I mean no matter how much you dislike the Tories – find someone, anyone, else to vote for. I just cannot believe there are so many people who would still support this phsyco Hunt Brown and, by implication, the Hunt Blair. What the fuck do they need to do – rape your mum up the ass and kill your kids? Jesus, what teh fuck is with these people.
Benefits, immigration (for their families) housing, cars, and anything else they can get.
‘Nuff said.
Lifted from the Migrationwatch website
‘Evidence that the system of social security benefits is one factor in attracting large numbers of foreign workers to the UK has come from a new study out today.
An in depth analysis of the operation of the current benefit system, by think tank Migrationwatch, has shown that the effect of benefit levels combined with means testing of benefits for those who are working means that there is little financial incentive for people with families living on benefits to find employment. This may partly explain why, despite there being 3.5 million people on Jobseekers Allowance or Incapacity Benefit, some 1.3 million immigrants have come to work in the UK in the past ten years.
There would be considerable benefits in getting our own population into work rather than encouraging immigration says the report. These include:
– huge savings on the social security budget
– an increase in GDP per head (i.e. higher production without higher population)
– less pressure on our infrastructure
– less downward pressure on low wages
– a reduction in the non working underclass
Said Sir Andrew Green, Chairman Migrationwatch: ‘We keep hearing that we need immigrants to do the jobs that the British won’t do.
‘It has been suspected for some time that benefit levels are a real disincentive to take work that is on offer and our research spells out why this may be so,’ he said.
Sir Andrew said that there were a number of other factors. For example, British workers who have accommodation and, perhaps, children at school, cannot be as mobile in search of work as immigrants.
‘However, an important factor is that wages are now so close to benefits that there is very little financial incentive for unskilled British workers to find a job. By contrast, Poles have very strong financial motivation. On the minimum wage in Britain they are earning 4-5 times what they would earn at home and, by living in multi-occupancy, they can afford to send considerable sums of money back to their families – according to the National Bank of Poland, Polish migrants in the UK are sending home about £9 million a day,’ said Sir Andrew.
The paper gives a number of examples:
A family with two children is just £30 a week better off working on the minimum wage than not working. If they are in rented accommodation and receiving housing benefit the worker keeps only between 4p and 10p in the pound of extra wages above the minimum wage until his gross pay reaches £507 a week.
A single person under 25 has more incentive to work but, on the minimum wage of £193 per week, is still only £50 a week or £10 a day better off than a non working person. If he is over 25 the difference is only £43 per week.
A family with two children and one working member receives £79.50 of Working Tax Credit, intended to cushion the impact of means testing of benefits and be an incentive to work. However Working Tax Credit itself is means tested and is also treated as income for means testing Housing Benefit and Council Tax Benefit. Overall this worker keeps only £6.77 of the £79.50.
All working families with children and one working member on the minimum wage are slightly worse off (by £14 -£24) than the same family receiving the maximum Incapacity Benefit. They remain worse off until the worker in the family earns £430 a week or £12.25 an hour. A single person on the minimum wage would be £3 a week better off than a single person on the highest level of Incapacity Benefit.
Said Sir Andrew: ‘The maximum level of Incapacity Benefit has effectively been brought very close to the minimum wage. There are good reasons of social equity for this but it does mean that there is very little financial incentive for such persons to return to paid employment, especially as they are allowed some earnings. This means it is particularly important to ensure that claimants are genuine cases’.
‘This problem of incentives is a perverse effect of attempts to lift families out of poverty. It is not the result of immigration but it is made more difficult by large scale immigration which, according to the Bank of England, tends to hold down the wages of the lower paid. The risk is that we will develop an underclass of discouraged British workers’, he added.’
For Labour, benefits are a win win situation. By keeping our own unemployed on benefits they will vote Labour. By using the benefits trap to keep our own people unemployed whilst importing immigrants to do the work that should have been done by our own ill educated they bring into the country people who will vote Labour.
Try factoring in the cost of transport to work as well and you soon find that the balance stacks up even more in favour of being on benefit. We are re-visiting the concerns of the poor law architects in the 19th century
The country is now divided into a group of people who struggle at work for years before they feel they can afford kids – Beeb highlighting cost of 200K to bring up a kid from 0 – 18 even without any school fees and another group which regards having children as their principal means of income generation. When Mark Oaten went shopping on Tower Block of Commons with a single mum who spent £40 on cigarettes he was horrified. She was quite bullish – “it’s my only luxury”. He should have pointed out to her that the only way she can find £40 a week for her luxury is by depriving her kids of the benefit money that was specifically meant to “lift them out of poverty”. Unfortunately, there is no way that a government can provide for poor kids through paying money direct to their parents without incentivising people who have no other prospects to keep producing kids.
Problem is, there are a lot of fucktards out there who simply dont care enough to actually look at the interweb/tv/papers etc. and form a valid opinion. A lot of them will be the:
‘Ive always voted labour, its what people do around here’
‘the labour party are the party for the working class’ (and a lot of these people are too stupid enough to realise that New Labour are their enemy)
‘The tories are all fox hunting toffs’
etc etc. Even ‘smart’ people dont give a fuck. I have an ‘intelligent’ friend who says she will vote labour simply because she thinks that if the tories get in they will reintroduce fox hunting! I challenged her on this utter lunacy, but to no avail, fox hunting is bad=tories are bad, fuck the economy etc, so long as foxes stay furry.
So there are people out there plenty stupid enough or ill-informed or frankly mad with motives you cannot comprehend who will vote for this shower of shit.
I did read somehwere (sorry havent time to find a link!) an article about how Bush got in. The article basically came down to the fact that some people are too stupid to reason with: i.e. explaining why Bush would be a bad idea with facts and figures wont work. What worked (for Bush) was simply stating ‘facts’, smearing and fearmongering. I think this short film will give you the basic idea
SO long as there are people too lazy/stupid or mad that vote, then labour will get votes.
remember :nine……………eleven.
Oih – leave orf Labour. Aahs a bloke like me gonna afford his beer and fags if he’s forced to work for a livvin?
Jesus, what teh fuck is with these people
C’mon, it’s not hard. They are being paid to vote labour. That’s essentially all it is. And with scum like that, money’s their main focus in life.
Always amuses me that – the Left bang on about the Right being driven for material gain, yet the people I know on the Right are largely totally onconcerned by dosh. It’s the lefties who are obsessed with the notion that someone they work next to might be earning 11p an hour more…
I dunno, they always seem to find someone on news reports (usually with a northern accent) saying:
“I’m goona vote Leabour cuz me dad voted Leabour and ‘is dad voted Leabour”
or
“It’s t’ party of t’ workin man”
Do you think it would be fun to arrange for a large delivery of whitewash to be delivered to the Chilcot Inquiry? We could all order a pot each for delivery on the same day. Perhaps the day Gordon gives evidence would be a good one to go for.
I dont think that will work. Your not even allowed to take paint on the fucking bus, let alone have some ina public building!
I was thinking of getting it delivered. It doesn’t really matter if none of it makes it into the enquiry room. I think it would make the point if the security guard on the door had to turn away a couple of hundred deliveries of whitewash in one day.
Tell you what, I will if you will! However there is one little problem… Its just that im a bit skint at the moment, so if you post your credit card details etc. here I will *promise* to use them to order just a minimal amount of animal po…..i mean paint of the internet and have it sent to ‘Chilcot thingy, London, W12 8QT
Joking aside, its a good idea, a nice stunt, but unless you can be sure it will be delivered publically (i.e. at the main entrance in front of journos) it might not work. If its just b&Q delivering or UPS im sure theres a trademans entrance out back where it will be sent.
I’m sure that a couple of blokes out in front, wearing overalls and carrying large tins clearly marked ‘whitewash’ would get picked up by the cameras, especially as the old bill would move in on them fearing bombs/paint attack…
Id love to pop down from the north but they wouldnt let me bring paint on the train! Aarrghg…why is this so complicated!
Instead i will stay at home, sit in my pants and rant on the interwebs!
I wish Blair, Brown and the whole new labour scum a slow and painful death for the lives they have ruined.
Just call the damn election.
Trouble brewing in Iraq, the Shia Ministers and officials are barring Sunni candidates from entering the elections saying they are former baathists from the old Saddam regime. Sunnis are angry and want to boycott the election. Tension spills over into violence. My best friend got caught up in that tension and died. But hey, I survived.
I have to go now because some nice people called Al Kyeda want to adopt me. Bye
erm sorry you got that wrong, it’s Alky Ada – off you go retard
…and exactly how has it been improper, Tony?
Or do you just think it improper that you were put under scrutiny in the first place?
Yes but first he was afraid
he was petrified
Kept thinking I could never live
without you by my side
But I spent so many nights
thinking how you did me wrong
I grew strong
I learned how to carry on
and so you’re back
from outer space
……and now you’re back, from outer space….?
That’s quite enough of that crap ladies.
I just walked in to find you here
with that sad look upon your face
Old fogeys night at order-order.
We all know the words to a seventies song.
Sad fucks.
Yes you lying, vainglorious, blood soaked, war criminal you survived, such a pity that tens of thousands of Iraqis didn’t.
The people of a sovereign nation which posed no threat to us slaughtered on the orders of a drink driving deserter, Israeli agitators in Washington, and little old ‘pretty straight sort of guy’ Tony.
The British squaddies?
Well we know you sent a goodwill card to the drunken shit Ozzy Osbourne when he had his quad bike accident, but what of the 800 British personnel
seriously wounded in Iraq?
Not so much as a kiss me arse! Im rich the yank trash love me!!!!!
I didn’t want to shake your fucking hand anyway.
There is plenty of circumstantial evidence that Blair stole cash from the loans for peerages fund . Loan repayments are being made by the Labour party from funds given by the trade unions. So,if Blair is a thief ,ordinary workers are now paying back whatever he stole . Most of these potential victims will still vote for New Labour . Amazing !
Not really. They know no different and they don’t want to know ay different. They deserve everything they get.
Me? I’m leaving asap.
‘Just put this helmet on please sir’
STERLING COLLAPSING AGAIN…
after Governor of Bank of England asks the Government AGAIN to do something about the incredible £ 200 deficit and accumulated other debts…
Bully Brown and his cronies are criminally negligent with the future of Britain…
You aint’ seen nothing yet ! Wait until after polling day if there’s a hung parliament or even worse a Labour Government
Yes…The Gilts market is sure to collapse along with Sterling…
Then no money to pay the bloated public sector….
Great…
and the Bank of England already owns 25% of the stock of Gilts…incredible…
The queue of Brits with their cars packed to the roof with belongings heading overseas via Dover will stretch around the M25 several times.
There will be Brits building rafts out of oil drums and dead Labour MP’s on the beaches of southern England in a desperate attempt to escape the blitzkreig and final descent into hell of a ELECTED Gordon Brown.
Shudder at the thought.
Well I’m going to stay. Farmland is bound to valuable in the coming meltdown. We can do without handbag designers and Synthetic Collateralised Debt Obligations but we’ll still need foo. I am armed if Government collapses under its own flabby weight and anarchy breaks out.
Don’t slam the door as you leave!
That’s the spirit Sir Bill.
One comfort with living out in the sticks is the townies won’t be able to afford the petrol to come out and loot us and it’ll all b gone within a couple of days of panic buying anyway. We’ve got the shotguns, we’ve got the dogs to hear them from miles off and we’ll be ready…
But they’re still drawing their ludicrous expenses.
£200 deficit? Is that calculation from Gordon Brown or have we devalued?
‘They went that way’
700,000 dead Iraqis
4 million displaced Iraqis
1400 dead Palestinians
But Tony survived.
And he will continue to survive as long as he doesn’t ever visit the middle east because if he did he would get a bullet in the head.
There was an incident perhaps 6 months ago where a man approached him in the Middle East but only to shout at him – he is a walking target,lucky all the time etc etc.
What a man – to sell his soul to the devil – a pariah wherever he goes and Labour want him to go on the election trail – bit like asking Adolf to stand outside the camps with a Red Cross collection tin.
Please send Tony Bliar and David MilliMossad to Argentina straight away…
They will sort all our problems out…
Or, better yet, Argentina will sort out Bliar and MilliMossad – a decade or so late, perhaps, but that’s life…
Blair would hand over the Falklands to Argentina.
Where is Argentina exactly?
Your Marxist father should have taught you that it was the original home of that first class prune Che Guevara…
I’m dead – get over it.
Right country for a couple of war criminals anyway…
Am I being cynical at being unsurprised that a “bomb” went off in Newry?
Not at all…
Bully Brown visitesd a few weeks ago…!
I actually mean that it conveniently did NOT kill anyone etc – on dangerous ground here,but it shows the suspicion that Brown creates with his double dealing methods that some people are suggesting it was staged,for goodness sake.
On this occasion, you are talking complete shite.
Catholics: you may have to spend a long time in Purgatory with this man Blair, if you’re not careful. You have been warned!
Just fuck off tat how many times does it have to be pointed out to you?
You shot your load, your yesterdays man like Brown. No one wants to hear you bang on again and again ad nauseum with your infantile rantings like a senile old fart plagued with haemorrhoids.
Look, if you don’t like it fuck off.
Simple, problem solved.
And i’m a tit too
Yes, you are, well realised you tit.
phew.
I’m glad its you.
Without me your life has no meaning sockpuppet.
You sad bastard.
Get a life FFS.
Nope. different reasons.
Not interested in climbing into the depths of your dark mind thanks very much.
Where is your own blog big boy? Not bright enough to know how to make one?
TaT has a blog.
I would tell you the address but you would forget it because your brain is retarded.
Goodbye retard.
No – he has a bog.
And in it he s*its – reading his Daily Mirror and tonguing the Toilets McGuire column before he cleans himself.
Oh how the mighty fall!
That’s quite enough about how you spend your evenings you dirty bastard.
TaT has a blog, that is a fact, and it is clear that you are jealous and envious because you don’t know where it is and even if you found out you would immediately be banned as he operates a no degenerate policy.
Tough shit you degenerate loser.
TAT is like a bitch he just keeps coming back for more and more.
Note to self: photocopy more fan club membership forms, applications are going through the fucking roof.
Good point, I am a bore and it’s a bit fucking much me trying to project all my faults on to you because I’m just a stupid old fart and you are top boy.
Right, I’m going to fuck off now to Conservativefoam to join my crippled friends.
WOOF WOOF SAUSAGES
Yawn. You must even bore yourself.
My money’s on the blessed assassin.
Sarah Twitter of the moron Brown;
“What you see is what you get with him”
But that’s the whole problem – he doth protest too much that he is the son of the manse,he has a moral compass,his father was always nice to people (and so was Adolf’s father) and on and on.
This just to cover up the bullying,manic,hugely damaged mind of the man.
In the cover up,they reveal more than if he had just said from the start that he was tempestuous.
Oh and I hate him more than JGM2,Frank and all you others.
Hmmm, well I an incompetent, socially inept, embarrassing, bullying, lying disgrace to the office of Prime Minister.
Is *that* what you mean Sarah?
I hope they’re paying you well for this charade…
Oh and I hate him more than JGM2,Frank and all you others.
Did you mean
Oh and I hate him more than JGM2,Frank and all you others hate him.
Sorry – had a 2.5 hour job interview today and my head is still spinning after 4 people interviewing me and then those damn numerical tests.
You see,unlike an MP or PM,I have to sit tests to get a job – says a lot doesn’t it?
ie;
“Jack – accountancy is not my strong suit (but cowardice is) – Straw”.
You actually got “an interview” ????? Lucky so and so
What I would like to see is guts spill out when he is hung, drawn a quartered. Is that a bit extreme?
Possibly.
But understandable, nonetheless.
Has there ever been a man who has driven so many people to pathological extremes of hatred that this moron Brown?
I think it is because the British people hate someone who pretends to be someone he clearly never was and never will be.
For me, it’s the way they go about governing.
You can accept the odd cock-up or unintended consequence if a government’s basic principles are clear, and they are seen to be acting in the country’s best interests. But this lot don’t – they stagger from crisis to crisis, dreaming up an eye-catching policy announcements (which they promptly forget as soon as the news agenda moves on).
Worst of all is their bullying and control of the news agenda, with a huge team of spin-doctors employing all the dark arts – including outright lies – to bend the news agenda to their favour. The utter destroying of a tiny charity yesterday by bringing the full weight of the government spin machine to bear on it because one inoffensive woman trying to do a bit of good for the wider community had the temerity to call their bluff on another lie says it all. They are scum – nasty, dangerous self-serving scum, and that comes from attitudes and influence of the man at the top.
Engineer.
Seconded.
I could forgive Brown a bit of ‘hairdrying’ if he was, like the Australian and Canadian PM able to point to his economy and go … Recession? What recession?
And it would have been easy to do. He was elected to be prudent. He had a mandate to be fucking prudent. Not reckless. Prudent.
He could have said ‘I could squander 35bn quid a year and another 25bn quid a year on PFI contracts every year of a boom. But I won’t. I shall make do with the money I can raise in taxes. I shall balance the budget.
I shall be prudent.
And the same Labour numpties who will vote Labour if Brown was rounding ‘em and herding ‘em into cattle trucks would continue to vote Labour and the swing voters and Tory converts of 1997 would continue to vote Labour. And he’d be still be looking at a massive majority.
Instead of which he pissed the whole fucking lot away. Because he’s an incompetent, reckless jackass.
So he emphatically does not have the right to be hairdryer-ing anybody because it is he who is the fucking problem.
Perhaps we need another 12 months of Brown before we can really say things will improve – http://whogoeshome.co.uk/?p=430
Bully gate just moved up a notch
http://www.prweek.com/uk/news/985842/National-Bullying-Helpline-chief-Christine-Pratt-approaches-Max-Clifford-help/
Perhaps for once Clifford will do somthing useful…!
I read some place he hates the Tories. So Max Clifford will do nothing other than spike the story rather than hand one to the Tories.
Unfortunately.
If you follow the link you will be reminded that Baroness Scotland’s cleaner approached Clifford too.
That went away as well.
And so will she, down in History as the only illegal immigrant ever to be deported asap by New Labour.
Hmm….a tussle between Max Clifford’s principles and his wallet.
“Max Clifford’s principles”
Best of luck trying to find those.
Try looking in his wallet.
What a lovely little aside that was.
Hey ho, I survived, which is more than could be said for hundreds of our soldiers and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians.
All in a day’s work.
No need to thank me.
what a fucking wanker.
Blair – the scum of the scum.
or was he referring to Dr Kelly when he was boasting about who managed to survive “pressure” ?
Kelly? That ‘Walter Mitty’ man?
Bovvered?
Do I look bovvered?
It’s a relief to know that David Cameron also voted very enthusiastically for the war.
Conned – as were the rest of us.
The problem with lies is that they often get found out.
So would you I suggest in the following circumstances
If the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom stands in front of the Despatch Box in the HoC and effectively says …..there is information that I cannot share with the House but I believe that the security of the nation is imperilled and that we must go to war ……….. irrespective of whether it was a Labour or Conservative Prime Minister you would expect him to be telling the truth and vote accordingly.
What Bliar has done is effectively hamstring a future PM and made the public sceptical of the fact that a Prime Minister would act in the interest of the country rather than for purely political reasons.That is the lasting legacy of Bliar AND Labour
The Tories supported the war. Funny how they dont like to talk about that too much.
Yes they did to their shame but perhaps they were “conned” too into believing Bliar’s words…IDS being an ex-miltary man was perhaps too honourable to appreciate he was up against a “snake oil salesman” who would actually take the country to war on a lie And it doesn’t detract from my original post/point.
Quote;
The Prime Minister of the United Kingdom stands in front of the Despatch Box in the HoC and effectively says …..there is information that I cannot share with the House but I believe that the security of the nation is imperilled and that we must go to war ………..
The opposition didn’t have a choice. They hadn’t lost their integrity themselves and did not realise that Blair was lying to them.
I read a John Major interview in which he said, as an ex prime minister, it was simply inconceivable to any of those Tories recently in high office that Blair would actually lie about something so important as taking the country to war.
They concluded he must have had solid incontrovertible evidence about Saddam that only he and his defence chiefs would be privy to, to propose it and voted accordingly.
Honest John eh? What suckers Blair made of them.
That is the ULTIMATE corruption….wriggle and lie about unemployment etc, etc but to lie on a matter of peace and war is the corrosion of the credibility of the State and is more than shameful….it is unforgiveable.
That is indeed the most frightening part of it all.
Prior to Blair you could expect governments/PMs to be negligent or stupid, but you would never have expected them to have told blatent lies about something as important as the need to go to war.
Before Blair’s lies became apparent, I would have trusted that the PM would have put the country’s basic survival before any/all other considerations. If a PM said “We have a threat to us all, this is it (can’t say any more for security reasons), and this is what I’m going to do…” I would have trusted/assumed their security reasons as being checked-out and valid.
A functioning democracy needs to have a certain degree of trust between the people and its leaders. The people don’t have to trust everything, but they do need to assume/expect that their leaders will act in their interests when it comes to critical/big things.
All the lies subsequent to Blair’s original lie (by brown/mandy, and virtually all labour MPs) have compounded that problem.
It’s got to the point where, if there ever is a genuine need for war but the government needs to hide the reasons from the voters for genuine security reasons, they won’t be able to do it.
Also, the military don’t trust the government either anymore, and that’s even more dangerous, because if the government tells our military leaders to send missiles to Iran because we’re 30 minutes away from being annihilated by a nuke, then the military could well say “yeah, right, pull the other one.”
It’s incredibly dangerous to have a situation where nothing that the government ever says is believed by anyone.
Hopefully a change of government will help to restore the trust, but only if the new government starts to tell the truth generally, and doesn’t use the labour “just lie about absolutely everything; better to avoid blame and have the country be destroyed by a nuke than get a bit of flak in the press” technique.
“Prior to Blair you could expect governments/PMs to be negligent or stupid, but you would never have expected them to have told blatent lies about something as important as the need to go to war.”
No we wouldn’t would we? With Thatcher and the Tories on 22%, the lowest approval rating ever on record, they didn’t go to war in order to win an election did they? No, course not. For politicians, this kind of social myopia must encourage them no end. You are blind to reality, blinkered by a partisanship that disallows proper examination of the situation.
Anonymous – check your history.
The Argentines invaded the Falklands to distract their population from an abysmal economic situation at home. They were able to because the FCO in London took it’s eye off the ball and disregarded warnings to that effect. Thatcher initially was not in favour of military action, but when it was pointed out to her that Britain would never again be able to hold it’s head up with the rest of the world if it was seen to cave in to such a weak opposition as Argentina, and to abandon the Falkland islanders, she changed her mind.
The mounting of the invasion so swiftly, and it’s effectiveness, did Britain’s standing in the world enormous good. The electoral benefit for the Tories was the unintended, but welcome, consequence. It was not the raison d’etre.
Indeed Engineer… Blair wanted to copy Thatcher’s ‘Falkland effect’ and thought with the US doing most of the heavy lifting he couldn’t lose.
Personally I wish we could have Honest John Major back… he used to prefer to stay alone working in his hotel room with a plate of sandwiches on grand summits etc. How very refreshing that would be after this dissolute, venal lot.
Anonymous: That’s where this Soviet/EUSSR conspiracy bit comes into focus.
Divide and rule… a people that doesn’t/can’t trust its own elected government anymore is ripe for the picking by those who don’t care whether they are trusted or not they don’t care whether we’ve elected them or not either. Blair and Brown have delivered us up on a plate.
Dismal Dave has sent Ken Clarke over to Brussels, to have some confidential meetings with Barroso and Rumpoy.
It seems that Ken can reassure the comrades that Dismal will play ball if elected and not rock the boat.
Nice to know that when you change government democratically, everything stays the same in reality.
It`s called consensus, corporatist politics and it is designed so that the proles do not have any say whatsoever, except at the unimportant margins.
We’re all surviving enquiries together.
I’ll get Ed to crush him when he comes out of school.
Guido says ..
Who was it that said Chilcot wasn’t a waste of time?
erm…it was everyone wasn’t it?
There is nothing that you could say to me now that I could ever believe.
Wot not even a future fair for all?
“Afuture fair for all” sounds a bit like an Aryan supremacy, doesn’t it – and look where that ended up.
Maybe they nicked it like everything else only this time from Nick Griffin.
Gulags for Slags was a B&P initiative.
How are the Gulags coming on by the way?
Oh. Just another policy announcement with no intention of follow-up?
Figures.
I could crush a grape
That really does sum it up….
Blair is an arrogant little tosser.
One wonders when he will create a political dynasty following in the footsteps of the equally vile and horrid Kinnocks.
Now that’s taking redaction just too far, somebody might notice.
Is it the Labour Apres-Ski Party at Whistler caught out in a Blizzard ???
Its what you get with a John Bull printing outfit.
Is it the Labour Party Manifesto for the coming election?
Sarah Brown
Is a clown
err
and a host of golden daffodils
Fe-fe, fi-fi, fo-fo, fum
I smell smoke in the auditorium
Gordon Brown, Gordon Brown
He’s a clown, that Gordon Brown
He’s gonna get caught
Just you wait and see
(Why’s everybody always pickin’ on me)
That’s him on his knees
I know that’s him
Yeah, from 7 come 11
Down in the boys’ gym with his mate Mandeee
Gordon Brown, Gordon Brown
He’s a clown, that Gordon Brown
He’s gonna get caught
Just you wait and see
(Why’s everybody always pickin’ on me)
Who’s always writing on the wall
Who’s always goofing in the hall
Who’s always eatin’ snot balls
Guess who (who, me) yeah, you!!!
Who walks in the classroom, stupid and slow
Who calls the English teacher, Daddy-O
Gordon Brown, Gordon Brown
He’s a clown, that Gordon Brown
He’s gonna get caught
Just you wait and see
(Why’s everybody always pickin’ on me)
FLEAS WOOF WOOF
ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Bore of the week goes to 3.36pm.
Get a job doleboy and stop scrounging off everyone else.
Gordon Browns staff aren’t scared of him, even after some near misses when he throws printers at them
They know he’s got fuck all chance of hitting with no depth perception
The economy won’t survive for much longer and the government is gasping its last breath. I will be glad to see the back of this corpse collecting government. They should come with a health and safety warning.
Look Mervyn don’t keep telling us on here we know.
Please do something.Stop printing money just cos’ McLoon asks you to and raise interest rates
Be fair – Mervyn did take the Maximum Imbecile’s cheque-book off him, and has tried to tell him publicly to sort his act out. It’s just that the MI hasn’t taken any notice.
But Brown rang up the Bank and asked for Mervyn .When he was told Mervyn was out for the morning.He told the junior he’d mislaid the original and could you put a “stop” on it and issue me with another.No don’t bother to post it.I’ll collect it
I don’t bully subordinates. I have never assaulted a typist. I never throw Nokias or printers. The Cabinet Secretary has never told me off for doing these things I don’t do, and if he did there was no record of it, formal of informal. I never cried because President Omaha Beach wouldn’t have his picture taken with me and I never shouted at aides in my hotel room, and if I did it’s because I am passionate about saving the world and the banks. There was no Granita deal, and if there was, it wasn’t like in that tv drama. There were no plans for an election in 2007 and even if there were, I certainly didn’t not call it because I was worried I might lose. I don’t use my family as props, as my wife will attest on her upcoming interview with Red. I didn’t get that dead squaddy’s name wrong, and even if I did it’s because I was injured playing rugby. I have never thrown a secretary at a Nokia or called the Cabinet Kitchen a c*** because Mrs Pratt wouldn’t meet me at a UN summit in my underpants. I mean – I I… I am a normal person. I I I … Nurse…
Watch your backs, he’s coming in.
Some daft cow called Sarah Brown has been phoning us for some time now. She wants us to know the bruises on the arm are down to knocking into furniture and not banging into her husbands fist.
I’m in the US now, on some sort of charitable immigration scheme. I arrived her three weeks ago, haven’t got a social security number yet, no car, and don’t know what I am going to do to earn a living but already people are telling me that, when I do get a job, if I say one word that offends them they will report me to my employer and get me fired. I can never return to Iraq because the reason I qualified for the immigration help was that I worked as a translator for the invaders. In Iraq I was a professional, with an extended family to turn to for support when necessary; here in the US, as an immigrant I am at the bottom of the heap, and my family is dispersed across three continents.
At least you are alive and intact with a chance to live out your life in a free nation.
If you truly were a real refugee you would be jumping for joy at the golden chance to build a good life in the US.
Life in a free nation is hard, you have to prove yourself and earn the respect of those who were kind enough to take you in and hand you the chance of a decent life.
Too many refugees spit in the faces of those who offer a helping hand, too many see the worst when they should see the best. If I were you I would be on my knees thanking god for my great fortune and thanking the nation that took me in, sadly however all too many so called refugees simply turn to hating those who try to help.
You have been watching too much Fox News, Cassandra. Go and take a pill.
King is right, as fellow bloggers with an ounce of commen sense have noted consistently.
The pound has now been severely weakened for over two years (slide started in November 2007 and collapsed to near parity with the Euro in November 2008….15 months ago) and will import inflation in energy and food costs as contracts are renewed in international markets and we STILL have a trade deficit.
Look to Ireland and get on with trimming the state spend…..wage freezes in the public service to get the ball rolling.
Tell the electorate the truth (both Parties) and let them decide. Just stop conning us.
The country needs urgent surgery and can’t stay on financial life support for much longer.
Banned?
Seemingly not.
Or am I and only I can see it.
If there is a god in heaven, Tony will survive, for a very long time – in a place that is rather toasty! If there is not, then I hope terrorists kidnap him and Cherie and give them both a taste of extraordinary rendition. (Both processes would be fine by me too.)
You have one round, in the chamber. In front of you, lined up, are Bliar, Broon, Harridanperson, Straw and Balls. Who gets it?
You don’t mean that good old catholic instrument the auto de fe, the smell must have been terrible!
Hang on tho’
Mrs Pratt has never said that McRuin is a bully even tho’ the Liebor spin machine makes out she did.
Liebor has taken our eyes right off the ball, which is the accusations in Rawnsley’s book that Brown does bully and that he is disfunctional at least in terms of his behaviour.
But the he key point is, surely, who is Rawnsley’s 24 carat source?? Who in the inner circle has told all ???
Why are we all talking about the unfortunate but irrelevant Mrs Pratt when we (or at least the meeja) should be probing the identity of the source. It can only have come from a very limited number of Mandelsons, sorry, Ministers.
My money’s on Postman Pat. He’ll be the next Labour leader.
Looks like Darling might be the man who was briefing against Brown in this instance.
When Tony passes from this world, he’s going to meet up with some very pissed off people.
Everything he does in life from now on is meaningless.
It would take, a thousand life times, to try and undo all the bad “karma” tony has collected.
I’m not particularly religious but this is the “best” way I can put myself at ease when he comes to my attention.
You think you survived the chilcot enquiry ?
You stupid, stupid, stupid, fool.
All of your power, all of your contacts, all of your expensive houses, all of your education, all of your security team, all of…………you get the picture.
None of this will help you when you’re on the slab you IDIOT !
You are FUCKED my friend.
Oh yes – Hell exists. Tony has the penthouse reserved for him. He is the most evil mother-fucker ‘alive’ today.
I resent that remark.
Wouldn’t you like to slap that smirk off B’Liar’s face, all that thanks, mean that those who testified what an honest, upstanding individual he is/was are as guilty as B’Liar almighty.
But his eyes aren’t smiling. You can see the fear.