Who is Really Ahead in the Polls?
Frustration with politicians is rightly at an all time high. Though about ten points ahead there is still no really coherent ideology from the Conservatives. No one is quite sure in what direction the chaotic and shambolic Downing St operation is going to go next, the whole thing is a mess. Guido normally leaves the psephology to Political Betting but he noted with some interest the figures buried in the latest YouGov data.
25% of people compared to 23% think that Labour chop and change too much and are more incoherent than the Tories. However 34% think they are both rubbish. 36% reckon neither party is led by people of any ability. Hardly a ringing endorsement. Looks like the stay at homes have it.
The BBC are spinning for Labour again today
I think you have got it right guido
“However the much larger 34% think they are both rubbish. 36% reckon neither party is led by people of any ability. Hardly a ringing endorsement. Looks like the stay at homes have it.”
However I will not be staying at home, I will be giving my Lifelong Conservative vote to UKIP.
I used not to pay too much attention to politics until this labour government started to phuq things up, both tories and labour seemed to be as bad as each other and people seemed to only vote for one or the other, it’s no wonder so many people don’t bother voting and think their vote doesn’t count. A poll a while back said that 84 or 86% wanted out of the eu, if all those people got off their arses and voted ukip their vote might at last count, that’s who I will vote for, fuck the rest.
Thus ensuring brown wins.
And who would be to blame? Don’t blame the electorate, blame Cameron, if he can’t come up with policies that people want then he wont get the votes, it’s he that has put so many people off by wanting this country to stay in the eu against the wishes of the majority.
I think we should stay in the EU.
I think we should stay in the EU.
I think we should stay in the EU.
I think we should stay in the EU.
I think we should stay in the EU.
The stay at homes never have it, they just whine.
So you’ll be voting for Labour then.
How about a “fantasy Government” liek fantasy football….
I vote for Daniel Hannan as PM.
Seconded!
Hannan, Carswell and Boris should all be in the Cabinet
and Gordon should be six feet under
But only after he’s had a punishing time in a court of law.
The Greeks are about to bring their shonky politicos to trial. That’s democratic , as the Greeks, who invented it, know.
Boris should lead the Cabinet one day, but Cameron has come up with two policies I deeply agree with lately. I agree from the bottom of my heart that he is fighting the sexualisation of young kids and also I like the thing he is doing about co-ops giving more power to the workers. Both of those are A1 policies, the second one also strategically astute.
But Boris is so hugely talented and brilliant, he has to be PM one day, he will restore our shattered democracy like no-one else could. That matters, that deeply matters, because Labour have just smashed it to smithereens and they are all too stupid to understand the appalling damage they have done.
http://cyberboris.wordpress.com/2010/02/18/how-hampstead-and-kilburn-lucked-out/
Finally, there is a terrific Tory prospect standing for Hampstead and Kilburn, Chris Philp. He is young, dynamic, and untainted by the expenses scandal, he is enterprising, dead keen and he will be a future Cabinet prospect one day, you mark my words. Forgive me for getting all that off my chest, but it has been boiling up like a pressure cooker.
There are still good prospects in politics, there are still things worth fighting for, it is not all rotten to the core, fake, and cynical opportunism.
Forgive me for the rant, take care y’all!
Boris is deeply associated with the bankers and London. He is also thought of as (another) Tory Eton-Oxford toff. In much of the country this would be a toxic put-off. Alas, he can never lead a Conservative Party with hopes of election.
Winning an election with a healthy majority requires reaching out beyond the core vote.
and Redwood and Davis.
Clarke could be sent permanently to Brussels.
‘Clarke could be sent permanently to Brussels.’
Why would you reward him for his treacheries to the UK people – send him permanently to Coventry, more like!
Not a stupid idea. He would love it there and would engage in the difficult business of making friends for the UK with talent and laid-back bonhomie.
They might even be persuaded that he typifies the party of which he is a member.
Clarke should be sent to jail.
Hannan put forward Iceland as a role model of governance. If only he could step into the breach and lead us into an economic future like theirs!
The difference between to UK and Iceland is that Iceland realised it was fucked and went to the IMF for help. A bank that was bust, went bust.
The UK refuses to admit that it is fucked. It has printed £200bn to give the impression of no longer being in recession, it has nationalised banks that failed at a cost of £50bn more.
It is now desparately praying that the election comes before the inevitable Gilt strike (failure to sell its debt now that it’s not selling it to itself with printed money) – in other words thinking about the election before the economy.
Hannan was right – let the failures fail. Guarantee a percentage of personal savings rather than propping up those businesses that made bad decisions.
You’re too late with this advice. This should have been posted in 2008.
If wishing made it so….
I agree Guido most citizens are hacked off with them all. However unless we have a revolution before the election citizens need to remember that if you can’t be arsed to vote you don’t the right yo have a grumble when the govt cock it up!!!
Not voting is the same as voting for whoever wins, considering the non voter has done feck-all to stop them from winning!
No point in me voting, as in my constituency there’s a Tory MP with a majority of tens of thousands.
Not that that stops me voting for her, off course. Grind the bastards faces in it!
Brown – Demented Marxist idiot.
Cameron – Demented Socialist idiot.
Lord Pearson – Claims to be on first-name terms with God. Made rather questionable expenses claims of £150K+.
Clegg – Demented Liberal idiot and convicted arsonist.
Griffin – Demented N*zi idiot who’s sole claim to fame is to have shot himself in the face.
Yes, of course, if I don’t vote for any party that was stupid enough to put one of these halfwits in charge, it’s entirely my fault that a party run by a halfwit will form the next government.
Sorry.
Parliament needs its validation from voters, Voters do not control anything they just consent to let others make choices for them, good or bad, thats a cop out too!
Is that all a vote means today? A right to grumble? What a sorry mess we’re in!
When a dog bites a man it isn’t news…..
No indeed, but the media keep reporting an entirely misleading picture of the political reality.
They report a picture in which the tory support in the country is about 40 %, labour 30% and people get the impression that a clear majority of people will be supporting and voting for either of these parties.
This is very misleading when the truth is that the support for the tories and labour combined is now a minority. And the majority of the electorate support neither of these parties.
What if people who hate both parties actually realised that they are in the majority and actually went out to vote against the main parties?
Well said, you’ve spoken an embarrassing truth. It is something that becomes obvious if you’ve been out canvassing in several different constituencies. It’s occasionally made me wonder just how democratic our political system is …. not very is my conclusion …. it suits us (mostly) I suppose.
I’ve never had to face an election for the job of Prime Minister so vote Labour in again and enjoy another five years of fantastic Marxist dogma, with me at the helm !!
Love,kisses AND tears,
From the man who abolished Boom and Bust forever,
Yes! Yes! Yes! Your rhetoric has finally convinced me of the rightness of a vote for Labour. Thank you Gordon from the bottom of my fart.
Here’s Gordon Brown praising the left’s frightening New World Order agenda.
Brown just talks a load of bullshit. Globalisation is the answer? An International economic constitution is needed to provide social justice?
What a load of shit.
Go tell that to China, Russia and America where they are ripping off their own ‘citizens’ never mind other countries’ citizens.
The only thing progressive about Gordon Brown is his mental illness.
Fucking JONAH.
Agree, 100%. All manner of Guardianistas, but those in the BBC in particular, are spinning for Labour like mad in the MSM. In doing so they are seriously over representing the support is out there for Labour . This is Labour’s ‘eat shit 20,000 flies can’t be wrong’ strategy, in which we are supposed to be thick enough to magic away the ruinous record of this government so that Labour and their media mates can start the electoral campaign vis a vis the other parties with a supposedly clean slate. Never mind the damage that Labour has done to the country, or that Gordon Brown is a deluded twat, or even attempting to reflect the balance or range of opinion within the country. No sir-ree. For these Metropolitan lefty wankers and their conflicted quangocracy the prospect of a Tory victory fills them with dread. Or rather it should do if the Tories don’t wimp out when in government (someone please give that nice Mr Hannan a call). For these lefty tossers Labour’s survival is a pocket book issue. Just follow the money…(and it’s our money too!)
Let’s hope Dave grows some balls and kicks back at these Labourite media tossers as the election campaign progresses, but I ain’t holding my breath. At least Osborne is no longer taking the lying spin from Labour’s cheerleaders without pulling them up short. More power to his elbow for standing up to their bullshit.
@CoV
Yep, I’m angry as well.
What’s coming from the polls here is exactly the same as the US. People there are kicking themselves for being duped by Obama (One Bad-Ass Mistake, America) and they have no faith in the GOP. The difference is that they have the Tea Party Movement and we have nothing.
Guido has suggested that the Taxpayer’s Alliance does the same job here, but he’s wrong. Tax is only one part of the equation and the TPA is not politically active in the way that the TPM is. The TPM will ensure BHO loses the House and the Senate in the mid-terms and he may yet become a one-term President.
As for Cameron growing balls, it’s not going to happen. The TPM has given him the ideas he needs, but he won’t use them. Small Goverment, fiscal responsibility and free markets is all he needs to say, but he won’t.
The country is f***ed. Guido is right suggest we buy assets, as £ash is going to become worthless.
… make that government
Gordon wants total control of the world’s banks.
UK banks have rubbish liquidity as they are being forced to “buy” worthless New Labour government debt. Let’s see what the markets think of that debt had it not been forced on to UK banks to “buy”.
Gordon Brown attacks ALL the Conservative / right wing parties in the world. Because Communism is much better. Now Brown really is starting to sound like Stalin.
This fuckwit talks of Conservatives never learning from their mistakes. Is he fuckin kidding. This tit has learned fuck all. If you ask him what mistakes he made as Chancellor he’d come up with nothing. He certainly wouldn’t mention selling gold at the bottom of the market, keeping interest rates to low to enable an unsustainable housing boom, running a deficit during an economic boom, telling the British public there would be no more boom and bust, telling us he would stick to his “golden rule” for all time. For fuck sake Britain wake up. Not to mention Iraq, immigration you name it. Get rid of this K*NT.
A member of the audience on last nites QT actualy told the pannel that Labour would not get in again in Middlesborough neither would the Tories or the Libs. He said that the B=P would gain the seats as all the others were useless. He may well be right, that dipstick Twatersly still believes that people en mass will only vote for the two main parties. Both Labour and the Tories may well be in for a shock. People are totaly pissed off with all the three main parties And I forsee seats being won by UKIP, B+P and Independants. as the respect for the currant shower of MPs is almost non existant
I hope you are right, but I can’t see it. As a people, we are just too fucking stupid, lazy, addicted and scared to actually do something to get rid of these wankers.
I hear nothing but moaning about Labour, the economy, the Tories and immigration. When I ask these moaners who they will vote for its, “I’m not going to bother voting.”
A good chunk of the population of Britain deserve what they get. The rest of us have to struggle on being hammered, fleeced and bullied because of the actuions of these selfish arseholes.
Gordon Brown attacks the Conservatives over their stance on Europe, whilst Gordon lauds it up over his secretive behind closed doors signing of the Lisbon treaty, selling the UK out, and no British person given a vote on the treaty.
Over the last few weeks I have received telephone calls from all three of the main parties each of which when asked if I support them have received the following reply
1) I worked from the age of 14 until I was 68
2) In that time I have managed to raise a family and buy my small house and provide for a modest old age pension
3) I am not and never have been on any benefits
4) I am an Englishman and am therefore ignored by your party who have sold my country to Europe
5) My reward for my efforts is that in a few years time if my wife or I require care you will steal my house regardless of the fact that I have contributed for half a century to the welfare state.
6) However if I were an asylum seeker or illegal immigrant you would look after me on the grounds of human rights. The fact that I am English means that my human rights don’t count
Therefore in answer to your question, “FUCK OFF YOU TWAT !!!”
A very good answer.
*applause*
I noticed that – good old B.B.C. [Brown Broadcasting Corporation].
sophology ?? Studying a girl called Sophie ? ?
He meant cephology (study of mushrooms) … its still a little early in the day.
Phrenology, I think he meant.
Thanks for sophology, cephology and phrenology and goodbye coffee!
Do these polls take into account the critical marginals?
Nope!
Comment on PB.com is suggesting that there will be a massive move away from Labour in the constituencies that turned red in 1997. The overwhelming consensus in those areas is the need to kick out this wretched and failed government.
Labour’s current strategy at getting out the ‘core vote’ is apealing to those in safe seats, the result of which will certainly be a Tory win, and possibly a landslide
Let’s hope so!
Alternatively, let’s hope not. Landslides are bad for everyone – as Thatcher and Blair both showed. We’ve got to keep the scum under control, not give them a long leash.
No. A Labour landslide defeat would be the right result. Apart from finishing off an already near bankrupt Labour Party, a landslide defeat for Brown and Co would seal the electorate’s condemnation of Labour’s record in government give Dave and Co the clear message that there can be no more backsliding into that middle ground shit without trouble.
It’s time to fix bayonets and settle our scores with the corrupt and incompetent lefty New Labour establishment. These twats have installed themselves in positions of power and influence at all levels of government and need rooting out.
Steve, you seem to suggest that these numbers bear no relation to the marginals.
Dodgy hypothesis. Completely unfounded.
“Looks like the stay at homes have it” says Guido and if the trend in the marginals follows suit, as it probably will, then it looks like David Cameron and his party were most unwise allowing the tax evading Lord A to run and finance the marginal campaign.
That bad call could well prove to be a killer blow to Dave’s hopes of a workable majority.
Big ‘IF’ there when discussing the marginals.
Articles like
http://politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2010/02/14/could-this-official-projection-make-you-a-packet/
would tend to disagree with you, and the serious punters are looking to make a fortune from the fact that the media have it so wrong in their analysis
How many of the average voters have seriously ever heard of Ashcroft?
Even Labour seem to have shut up about him once the Tories found the abour-suporting Lord P.a.u.l in similar circumstances.
The story in the marginals (which mostly turned red from blue 13 years ago) is undoubtedly one of getting Brown out at whatever cost. This is from activists actually there and talking to people, as well as a number of polls.
Dave may not be the world’s greatest ever politician, but he at least deserves a chance. No-one, NO-ONE could be worse than the current rotten Labour government.
Time for a change – as soon as possible please!!
Yes change is needed but wishing something to be does not make it happen.
What do you think will most affect the outcome of the marginals?
a) Ashcroft’s millions spent on advertising and glossy brochures
b) Brown’s incremental increase of the client state over the last twelve years?
It’s a no brainer Steve.
Brown knows he is a loser, that is why he has been rigging the vote by making people dependent on the state for cash and he is now playing upon people’s fears that the Conservatives will withdraw that state support.
The only thing Dave can do if he wants to win the GE is to raise the personal allowance.
It would increase employment and would garner support from the Lib Dems should The Tories not have a working majority.
George Osborne is running out of time to make that announcement. If Osborne doesn’t announce they will scrap working tax credits, increase the minimum wage, increase the personal allowance to twelve grand and make that allowance transerable then the Conservative will simply not have the support to form a government.
It really is that straightforward.
The beauty of that he above policies will be good for this country, sod everybody esle. The added bonus is they cannot, apart from the increase in the minimum wage, be copied by Brown because he has wedded himself to tax credits. Brown has boxed himself in. It is time for the Tories to kill Brown with his own sword.
I may not be the world’s greatest politician, but I at least deserve a chance.
Yes, I could do better than Brown/Blair and the rest of the treasonous Establishment parties.
Landslides are bad because you get extreme nutters on the fringes of the party rocking the boat all the time. If the govt has a small majority they have to toe the party line or the govt gets defeated.
But it’s precisely the media derided so called ‘extreme nutters’ of the Tory party – the Hannans, the Redwoods, the Davis’ – who are needed now. Enough of this wishy washy middle ground more of the same nonsense.
Here here. Bury Labour forever, they’ve proven – again – that they just don’t know what they’re doing. Trying to pander to everyone never works.
Give us conservative policy not middle-ground bullshit. The country needs it BADLY.
Anything, ANYTHING would be better than the one-eyed wanker’s mob. Let’s get rid of him and his cardboard cutout cronies and THEN start arguing about how to rebuild the country. Even my leftie friends have had enough, as one by one they lose their jobs to cheaper, often illegal foreign workers.
Right, right, right.
The country can’t afford another five years of fuckwit McDoom and his merry bunch of political eunuchs.
Tesco import all their fruit, even when British fruit is available.
Bastards.
Tesco really is shite!
So say all of us, however I fear that the millions who are in receipt of all the benefits the tax paying public are subsidising will ensure that Labour will hold sufficient seats in parliament to cling on by their fingernails. Depressing thought but in the absence of any radical alternative to New Liebour people may be inclined to vote for the “Devil you know”.
If you want a true indicator , try this . Yesterday the utterly worthless defra minister ,hilarity benn, wrote an article in the Guardian, sayng how wonderful their Hunting With Dogs Act was and how Tories ate babies etc. Every single comment, and there were a bunch, derided the article and the nulab govt.
When Guardian readers react like that to nulab, they must truly be finished.
Veggie Benn is like Bovril is to Marmite or would that be vice versa.
Vegemite. Like mud with a bit of Marmite in it. Yecch!
The Guardian is now serially censoring anti Labour comments and commentators on it’s blog, yet even so the weight of sentiment against Brown and government ministers is vitriolic. The more fanciful of the Guardaniistas believe that Tory Trolls in the pay of CCHQ are deliberately targeting their site. They fatally underestimate the degree of contempt that is out there concerning this Labour government.
For my own part I got banned by the Guardian for suggesting that Seamus Milne was a deluded rich boy commie twat. Fair comment, I’d say…
“deluded rich boy commie twat” – core Guardian employment policy
The Guardian are really bad employers. Just ask anyone who works for them.
The managers are sexist pigs and because they are experiencing financial difficulties because of low sales they don’t pay employees their wages on time.
A huge chunk of the non-jobs Blair et al have created were advertised in the Guardian. Tells you all you need to know.
Just watching GB giving his latest ‘tractor stats.’ speech on Sky News – some people are simply not born to use an Autocue…
Watching McBust? You’re a braver man than I.
He winds himself up as his frustration grows with his blindness and his overall low self esteem.
To see him standing there,lying and lying and lying.
11 weeks today and he is going to be driven out in a white van with windows along the side.
Cameron needs to stop pratting around and go for Browns jugular.
I agree with Boris, I do not think the polls reflect what people are really feeling. I think that hard line Labour supporters are so ticked off and sick of Brown and Blair they will stay at home, and the optimists, who have faith in change will win it for the Tories.
Brown is a monumental liability for nuLabour. If David Cameron prayed for the perfect means of becoming PM – God would give him Gordon – yet, is he taking advantage?
He should be tearing the tosser to shreds!
Agreed – as I travel around the UK I make a point of asking people about Brown and the hatred is astonishing – this man is detested like no other person.
I say again – Labour know they are going down as their private polling tells them so – that is why they are becoming more and more lunatic and outspoken in what they say.
The last words of the hole in the bunker gang.
I’m hoping he’s got something on Brown that will be released as soon as the election is called, Brown has to go immediately, no time for a Labour selection process so Harman’s the prospective PM, Labour are dead in the water.
http://cyberboris.wordpress.com/2010/02/08/hurray-for-boris/
Boris Johnson is convinced there will be no hung Parliament. He is betting on a Tory victory of 40+ seats. Hurray for Boris, I agree one hundred percent. That is the rousing stuff to give the troops.
The impending double dip recession should put pay to Labour Spin on their handling of the economy…..
No it won’t. They, the BBC, much of Sky News along with many of the Newspapers will just lie about it.
We’re not out of the recession, so how can there be a double dip?
Look at all the other stats that the ONS has published, add it all up together, and no way is the UK out of recession. the figures were rigged to give Gordon something to hang on to for the general election, and when New Labour lose, they can attack the Conservatives by claiming THEY made the UK go into recession. It’s all a game to New Labour.
amazing models, extraordinary designs, and Andrew Flintoff, Ronnie Corbett (yes, indeed), Geri Halliwell, Nicola and Kimberly from GA
http://twitter.com/SarahBrown10/status/9307080821
The economies has been fucked by hubby dearie, or haven’t you noticed. Never mind everything’s well in twitterworld and some Z listers are raising their profile.
Is this what she has just found up her box.
Sir,
I think you’ll find you mean “psephology”.
Respectfully,
C.
If Guido wants to invent new words it’s fine by me. How do you think that English became the language with the most words? Yup Guido’s ancestors.
Guido we need the exact definition to send to the OED
Sophistry is probably the best word for Gordon Brown.
What’s the Greek for ‘stupidity’? ‘Sophistry’ implies wisdom of some sort.
hungover.
Why not people who live closest to polling stations, provide a PROTEST BALLOT BOX where voter can post their ballot papers and see if there are more protest votes than the count . . . . . could be interesting, total protest votes would interest press and media.
listening to that fucking idiot last last night on Question time last night blaming Maggie for the Corus problems FFS ,what world is he living in.
Silly me labours world where in some areas 59% are in Government Jobs.
Vote Labour.you bet.Twats
But for what must be Labour’s ‘heartland’ area, there was an unnusually hostile atmosphere towards the government about the Corus plant. What chance the Unmentionables to win a seat there?
By the way, was I the only one to notice that on the day the Cabinet met in Durham, they could not find a single member willing to go on what would have been a very hostile QT??
Has anyone kept a record of these ‘cabinet awaydays’ and, if so, I’ll be happy to place money on the fact that they are all in or very close to NuLiebour marginals.
Of course they are.
And they seem to be meeting lots of local party activists whilst on their taxpayer-funded days out.
Would you expect anything else from this bunch of gennymanderers?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article7032878.ece
“‘Cash for access’ accusations over Cabinet’s awayday to Durham“
Well Labour need to get their act together because I live in a Labour Marginal in the West Midlands. The sitting Labour MP is retiring.The female Labour PPC has been parachuted in having fought and lost a nearby constituency in 2005.The Conservative PPC is a local man and councillor(the tories took control of the council recently after 30 years of Labour hegemony)
Now to my point. You would think that in those circumstances the Labour PPC would be on the doorstep;pushing leaflets out etc certainly from January onwards. Not a peep. I’ve never seen the Labour candidate;never spoke to her;never been approached by her or any Labour canvasser when around the town or even down my street. In contrast the Conservative candidate has been round every street in my neighbourhood.I have spoken to him personally on my doortep and we continually get flyers from the Consevatives both in the post and through the letterbox. Now I accept that Lord A’s cash may be a help to the Conservative candidate but if Labour can’t be more pro-active than this(and it may be happening elsewhere) they are well and truly f**ked here and we may well see our first Conservative MP(since 1987 when the boundaries were different)
Nuneaton!!!
Rory the Tory was dropped in at the deep end.
…and he did bloody well I thought.
Hopefully a few more MPs like him around the place after the election, replacing the Nick Wankerton’s of this world!
Yep. Reckon there will be some damn good Mp’s in it for the politics not the dosh. Will have to be good to keep yourslf in the cabinet, not like the current crop of z listers.
Even the other panelists listened when he was speaking.
We just need 645 more like him
on QT?? these people are far too busy and, more importantly, far too important and full of themselves, even in our current shambles.
no, QT isn’t for them anymore. they’re all waiting for ‘have I got news for you’
yes steve very hostile but wont stop um voting Labour me dad did blah.blah,zzzzzzzzzzz like fucking sheep.
Stupid, aye. Somebody should just mention “enterprise act” which the Labour gov brought in and he’d shut up fast.
For those unsure:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterprise_Act_2002
Or more specifically:
The Minister of Trade and Industry in the past played a large role in competition policy, having final say over whether a particular merger was in the public interest. Under the new Act his role was significantly diminished in order to de-politicize competition regulation which had been accused of being inconsistent in the past. He now only has powers to intervene if the proposed merger will affect the media to the detriment of the public, national security or if one of the firms is a government contractor.
Anyone, ANYONE will be better than the current government, who could not even balance the books during ten years of growth.
We desparately need a change and we need it yesterday.
On topic, Thatcher and Blair said very little prior to election about their plans. The current Tories have said more than any opposition in living memory about their policies, going to far as to pubilsh a draft manifesto – only for Labour (supported by the media) to quietly adopt the good ideas and make up lies around the policies they don’t like.
Inheritance tax to the benefit of millionaires anyone? The policy is actually that ONLY millioniares will have to pay the tax.
CMD needs to consider policies to kick start the economy, and avoid locking himself to the deranged spending programmes of Cyclops. Bacon and Eltis look as if they wrote their book 30 years ahead of their time, except we now have to few wealth creators. The Government’s rising debt is crowding out revisited on a bigger scale.
selling off the public sector broadcaster would be a start, it would force it to focus on profitabilty, and innovation rather than waste.
if he hads any guts he would have removed that Hunt Brown ages ago, but instead he allowed him to stay on longer to fuck things up.
clegg and co ought to demonstrate that they can produce policies for recovery rather than the middle class public sector payrollers.
Cameron has to move beyond platitudes and generate growth.
“However the much larger 34% think they are both rubbish.”
I’m surprised it’s only 34%. With so many star-class self-regarding incompetent troughers it should be much higher than that.
Pravda have definitely received order now to crank up the anti-Tory message.
This morning was the worst yet – burnham spouting the “above politics” bullshit, 60 economists backing brown/darling, “right wing parties” hating govt and wanting to destru the economy….. No mention of the deficit though.
No wonder there is still any support for labour with this kind of propaganda filling their empty heads!
I think that the”stay at home” option is a cop out. The situation for the country is too grave for people to sit on their hands at the election.
Hard facts HAVE to be faced. As a country we have lived on unsustainable credit.We have had the “good tmes” now it’s pay back time. It’s pointless blaming the Banks or Brown/Labour or whatever. We are – where we are.
Whoever wins the 2010 election will have to make some pretty hard and realistic decisions. Whatever the politicians of both parties say – front line public services CANNOT be secured or ring-fenced.That includes the NHS and Education plus Defence. The country has a gigantic deficit to cope with.
Unemployment WILL rise(including the Public Sector);taxes WILL rise;whoever secures a mandate will be faced with the same choices and we all face a hard 5 years slog.As a country and an electorate we cannnot keep burying our heads in the sand hoping the other man pays the dues but NOT us.
So the choice is stark:-
1. Do you believe that Brown and Labour know what they’re doing after 13 years in power and have Brown & Co the way forward out of the fiscal mess we’re in ? How will the markets react to a re-elected Labour Administration.If they react unfavourably that will cramp the ability of the government to act and interest rates WILL have to rise further hampering the recovery
2. Has Cameron & Co got the answers ? Is it time for change and giving some other party the opportunity to deal with the mess ?
Whoever you decide has the answer.People SHOULD vote. It is their civic duty to do so. Apathy in the present circumstances is simply NOT an option
You are right – I do want to vote. But I sure ain’t giving it to cast iron or boom n bust, so I’ll just choose some random minority no-hoper on the day I think, say the greens, ukip or the libdems etc. At least the 2 biggies get a feel for the strength of how much they are hated.
And that achieves what exactly?…
A tinsy wincy bit more than my overwhelming urge to not bother at all.
very ,very good questions but to be honest the 30% dont care a fuck sorry to say.as long as their meal ticket arrives each week.
I think I’ll split my votes, too. My grandmama always voted Labour so I’ll cast her postal vote for the Party of the People. My own vote will go to the Cameroons while my double ‘Willy Waad’ is a bit ginger and likes to Vote LibDem. Grandfather always voted Tory, so his postal vote will go for them while Jess, my favourite gun-dog, votes UKIP. My friend John Deere (who is in fact a baler) will also vote for the Conservatives as the pro-business party, so overall they will do all right out of us.
I’d always thought of John Deere as a republican.
I’d always thought of John Deere as a tractor…
you’ve perhaps not been watching enough cbeebies. “big blue” is quite clearly a Tory.
John Deere’s are green.
I once stood in a local election and voted for myself three times in one visit. All legal and the officers knew it but it pissed off the opposition tellers who were thick as pigshit.
What did you expect!
Dave and co. are not up to it and the public know it.
Sure they’ve discounted Gordon – but I believe a huge number are undecided or in the mood to do something unusual.
If Clegg pulls it out of the bag on the TV debates (which this time round will be important) then anything could happen.
Clegg? The biggest loser of all, because they should be walking this one after all the others fuckups, but with their insane “givedem” to Europe policies meaning they want to hand over more than the others combined they are a non-starter.
Everything else is ok – they have less baggage, the inexperience isn’t a handicap given what the other 2 just did and their other policies are less evil. But, there you go, its the Europe t*rd in the trifle which renders them irrelevant.
Spot on.
Clegg, Vince and Co could be right up there, but for that poo, bang in the middle of the custard, and no amount of sherry will get rid of the smell.
The Deficit is now the Elephant Monster in AngleLand.
No one dare mention it, ’cause it’s so scary, not even GF.
And 60 cowardly Economistes have decided it must be fed more debt in case it does a doubel dip.
This is no time for a novice
This the time for me, a NobHead.
I think the tories are just a bit less rubbish than n labour.
If this poll is correct and the combined effect of the totally biassed BBC, Times and Sky, and to a slightly lesser extent the Telegraph,Independent and Guardian, is to get Macavity and his corrupt gang back in power,I am going to write to my ex military pals and see if we can get a military coup to get rid of Brown (and the BBC).
Sounds good to me.
The Rural Army awaits your call
Sky news, James Purnell standing down. More rats leaving ship.
Let’s face it – Cameron has blown it! He’s as out of touch as Brown and surrounds himself with his Eton advisers and Notting Hill Nancies and doesn’t listen to the grass roots of the party, and I’m not talking about the Wintertons, or the huntin’, shootin’ and Fishin’ set.
The cunning stunts he gets up to and his rather poor attempts to appear ‘ordinary’ make Blair look like Richard fucking Burton. The man is becoming more creepy than Milliband’s banana! And to think I used to be proud of being Conservative!
My sentiments entirely, but why doesn’t our dissatisfaction (and we’re not alone as you can see from similar comments to yours on many blogs) show up in the polls as a propensity to vote UKIP etc.
I loved CmD posing with his darts and a pint. He just needs a flat cap and some racing whippets.
Greyhounds. Whippets don’t do a lot of racing.
This shows I’m not suitable to be one of Cameron’s conservatives.
Clarence Dock
You are a raving lunatic .
When C4 made the programme “When Boris met Dave” didn’t Cameron’s flatmate basically say Dave sat about drinking beer and watching TV while Boris was out running for President of the Oxford Union. Unlike Brown, Cameron didn’t waste his whole childhood/youth thinking about politics.
Saw Roy Hattersley on QT last night saying the people of Teeside ‘Must vote for one of the 2 main parties to have any influence on Government’
2 ridiculous statements in one, firstly the idea that the 2 main parties have a god given right to govern, and secondly that voting for either of them gives anyone in the street an ‘influence on Govt’ at all.
I am pleased that I missed the dribbling old queen. Odds on that he will appear on TV one day and go tits up live in the style of Tommy Cooper – I look forward to that.
O/T, but a propos First Class rail travel, did anyone else notice how the Tory PPC shut Dimbleby up ??
Dimbleby took a typically BBC snipe at the Tories in relation to Sir Nicholas Nincompoop’s comments about rail travel. The Tory PPC answered something to the effect that, ‘I’d happily travel standard class if you would’.
Cue Dimbleby shuffling papers and moving on quickly…..
I DO hope Dimbleby et al travel First Class at the Taxpayers’ expense to QT around the country. I’d be disappointed if he had to travel with the great unwashed.
Indeed – couldn’t you just imagine Dimledore getting the train to Middlesborough in standard class??
Of course he travels First, which is why he shut the fuck up and changed the subject when it was mentioned!
Dimblebore is absolutely fucking useless as a chairman. He should shut the fuck up. Nobody is interested in his opinions – he’s the fucking chairman FFS! Might as well ask Bercow to speak in a debate in the HoC.
Brown’s worked out the path to victory. The more money he loses, the more popular he gets.
£1 trillion and counting. Sterling falling like a stone. Recession locked in for three years. Lisbon means we will be asked to bail out the PIIGS.
It’s all exactly what voters desire. Vote Brown. I mean Red.
Don’t let Labour Lock-in their Recession
Cameron must have had a traumatic experience with a nettle in childhood.
Ha ha ha brilliant!
Again I’m worried about Labour sneaking in with a hung parliament.
Again we should all be getting ready for a coup if that happens. Here’e a plan:
1) Get in touch with the MI5 officers who drew up plans for similar against Wilson in the 70′s. They’ll be retired but will have the know-how on dirty tricks and supversion.
2) Get the funding. Ashcroft is obvious choice, also Goldsmith Jnr. Middle sized business men and Rotarians can generate vast amounts of petty cash very quickly too and will have access to laudering/ delivery facilities. Try Midlands Industrial Council too.
3) Military contacts. There are a plethora of retired generals smashing the hell out of Labour. Is is unheard of in our history. These guys command huge respect from the forces, both active and retired, and have contacts with munitions providers. Gen. Mike Jackson to lead.
4) Institutional support. I’m not talking a corrupted Whitehall, I’m talking about Prince Philip and Princess Margaret, both of whom command huge public support.
5) Communications. Need to sieze radio/TV almost instantly with well-known broadcasters ??Any with Rightish leanings.
Any other suggestions please?
You need a Trojan Horse. Mandleson: the Lady’s ripe for turning.
I’ve just thrown up. Thanks…
Well with respect you ought not lead any coup.
Princess Margaret is dead and Prince Philip sadly is a little too old.
The concept may be sound but may I suggest you back to the drawing board?
You need a ouija board if you want to send a message to Princess Margaret.
Personally I want Labour to achieve a working majority in May.
Let the Scotch parasites, the professional benefit scroungers, the disability fraudsters, the public sector paper shufflers, and the infantile lefties see what
their progressive, caring overlords in NaziLabour do with the coming fiscal disaster.
As soon as councils are forced to face the inevitable and begin culling the vast numbers of non jobs, unemployment is going to rise very rapidly.
Britain is now so full of parasites and idiots the nation no longer cares that it has a PM who is clearly being controlled by Little Lord Sodomite, and lying, bully Al Campbell, like a retard with with a carer.
Hopefully there will be unrest amongst the hard working, tax paying, law abiding English citizens at their slavery to the Scotch parasites.
A break up of the union would suit me just dandily thank you.
English taxes for the English, and fuck the lazy, obese, drunken, scrounging, Celt Ku_uuunts
Whenever I go on holiday the aeroplane is chockfull of Mr and Mrs Essex and their rotund repulsive kids. They’re all fat and tattooed and occasionally I see Mrs Essex on the beach and have to seek a sickbucket pronto.
The Tories are too busy pandering to people that will never vote for them. So, will they have a referendum on EU member ship? NO. Will they curb / stop immigration? NO.
Will they repair and fund the UKs Armed Forces? NO (they plans cuts even when we are at war, disgraceful). Will they curb waste and managerialism in the NHS and remove unnecessary quangos? NO. Will they dismantled Labours State Army embedded in the Teaching profession, elements of the Civil Service and in Local Government? NO.
They are exactly the same as Labour. We should vote Labour to ensure that those responsible for this huge godforsaken mess the UK is in wake up the morning after the election in May and realise to their horror that they have to bear the pain.
The beauty is that a vote for Labour and putting them back in office may well destroy Labour forever.
Seconded
Thirded
Fourthted.
You are assuming that the Labour party care about being routed, I believe they do not.
Democracy is just a fig leaf now, Parliament has been hollowed out from within, the EU and the unelected Quangocracy, control most of the institutions now.
They all have in built left leaning sympathies. Those Labour rejects at any election, are busy feathering their futures with comrades in the EU, the Charity industry and the Quangocracy, so they even when not in power, can run things safe from voter scrutiny.
Expect them to pop up in EU sinecures, Charities and Quangos near you after the next election, shamelessly promoting their failed dogmas, social experiments and attacks on individual freedoms.
Expect CMD, to do nothing to stop them either.
The next government has to cut and the cuts can more acceptably be made in all the Liebour-stuffed quangoes, civil service departments, local authority services, teacher training units, etc that the marxists have overwhelmed since 1997.
Vote UKIP
In terms of voting numbers, the stay at homes have had it for the last 2 general elections. Not a fact that has had much mainstream publicity for some reason.
This time non-voters should outnumber Tories and Labour voters put together.
Made up shite – 9 out of 9 people think all MPs are loathsome fucking filth who should be striped, rubbed down with cheese, and thrown into a pit of starving rats.
The next GE will see a voter turn-out of 9%.
OY-VEY.
Make up your own torture scenarios rather than pinching mine
From: bucfmembers @googlegroups.com
To: bucfmembers @googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed Feb 17 14:18:05 2010
Subject: [BUCF Members] URGENT
Dear All, I hope this message finds you well
Firstly I need to stress the importance of this message.
I have been informed by Conservative Head Quarters (CCHQ) of a last minute rally that is to happen THIS SATURDAY, 20th FEBRUARY
We have been tipped off that Gordon Brown will be in Warwick on a public relations trip. CCHQ have requested that Conservative Future members from across the country gather in Warwick to form our own publicity stunt. This will be a sign to the Prime Minister and the Labour Party as a whole, that as Conservatives we are ready for the General Election. It will no doubt act as a demoralising element to Gordon Brown’s trip. There is to be lots of publicity surrounding the event, so I urge as many of you to come along and show your support.
As you can imagine, not many details are circulating as of yet, as it is such a high profile event, it is possible that details will change at very short notice. The meeting point on Saturday will most likely be Coventry railway station – reasonable travel expenses will be covered.
This will not appear as a facebook event, as we are trying to keep our preparations as low key as possible.
If anyone is interested in coming along, or being kept up to date with details for Saturday, please email me at sophie.shrubsole@gmail.com or get in touch via my mobile on:
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Your support is always appreciated
Best wishes
Sophie Shrubsole
Conservative Future Area Chair for Birmingham, Solihull and Coventry
http://waugh.standard.co.uk/2010/02/cams-first-dirty-tricks-op-of-the-election-campaign.html
Excuse me for being slightly thick, but just how is organising a crowd to oppose McStalin counted as ‘dirty tricks’?
Waugh is up his own arse, as per usual.
Judging by Question Time last night, not many Labour voters left on Teeside.
http://fxbites.blogspot.com/2010/02/corus-of-disapproval.html
Amazing as that area is a Labour stronghold.
Wouldn’t it be great to see Gordon lose his seat, how can so many Jocks see something in Gordon that no one else can?
The Conservatives and the Liberals should not put up candidates at kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath and campaign fpor the SNP who came second at the last election.
It’s time to fight dirty.
Now that is a good plan! The Tories wouldn’t have a hope there, so they’d be better off helping the SNP. Strange bedfellows, but then again – these are strange times.
From: bucfmembers @googlegroups.com
To: bucfmembers @googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed Feb 17 14:18:05 2010
Subject: [BUCF Members] URGENT
Dear All, I hope this message finds you well
Firstly I need to stress the importance of this message.
I have been informed by Conservative Head Quarters (CCHQ) of a last minute rally that is to happen THIS SATURDAY, 20th FEBRUARY
We have been tipped off that Gordon Brown will be in Warwick on a public relations trip. CCHQ have requested that Conservative Future members from across the country gather in Warwick to form our own publicity stunt. This will be a sign to the Prime Minister and the Labour Party as a whole, that as Conservatives we are ready for the General Election. It will no doubt act as a demoralising element to Gordon Brown’s trip. There is to be lots of publicity surrounding the event, so I urge as many of you to come along and show your support.
As you can imagine, not many details are circulating as of yet, as it is such a high profile event, it is possible that details will change at very short notice. The meeting point on Saturday will most likely be Coventry railway station – reasonable travel expenses will be covered.
This will not appear as a facebook event, as we are trying to keep our preparations as low key as possible.
If anyone is interested in coming along, or being kept up to date with details for Saturday, please email me at sophie.shrubsole @gmail.com or get in touch via my mobile on:
07973 956373
Your support is always appreciated
Best wishes
Sophie Shrubsole
Conservative Future Area Chair for Birmingham, Solihull and Coventry
http://waugh.standard.co.uk/2010/02/cams-first-dirty-tricks-op-of-the-election-campaign.html
I mean, it reads like a joke so it must be something from Cameron’s Conservatives’.
Are they gonna take their whippets and darts with ‘em.
Sounds like a good day out
Well, I think both parties are useless, but I shall still vote.
I hate Cameron and the Tories marginally less than I hate Brown and NuLab, so the blues have my vote. The country simply cannot afford another Labour term of government with Brown anywhere near the helm.
One thing I have promised myself it that, if Labour do win the general election, I shall close my business and quietly withdraw from the tax system.
Did that during the last 13 years. Thankfully I have little cash left but a little income needs to go a long way. If I’m typical of a Tory, I need to have faith in Dave.
Its sorely stretched at the moment as I fear the choice of candidate seems particularly iffy, given Master Goves input…
Yet again the Tories come out with another pointless head line grabbing gimmick
The “Non sexualistion of children”
Just what am I supposed to do on my Corfu holidays apart from taking Patek Phillipe watches as gifts if chldren are not fair game?
No wonder you’ll never have kids then, thankfully…
We don’t need no stinkin’ leaders
Don’t vote, it merely encourages them
For god’s sake, VOTE. If you want to stick it to the estabishment parties, vote for the small ones, it doesn’t matter who.
Even if they don’t get in, you might save them their deposit, which is money the government doesn’t deserve.
So you want Brown in for another 5 years then, do you?… Pillock…
Let me guess, you’re a tory worried about losing votes to UKIP, right?
I will walk down to the polling satation head held high,i will vote Tory and then i can join in the conversation on why Labour were kicked out
Because every 5 years i have a chance to make my life better it hasnt worked for the last 3 times, whether it works this time we will see but its wont because i have not voted so fucking use your vote.FFS
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The evidence of many decades plus recent events clearly shows that more than half of our MP’s are woefully incompetent and at worst down right dishonest.
However is not all the politicians fault its many voters that shoulders the blame too, why on earth consent to some clueless idiot MP you don’t know ruining your future and telling you how its going to be when its very clear they don’t have anything to offer, and even if they do won’t make it known because they have no answers whatsoever other than more of whats gone before!
The first test should be whether they can write English or not.
Bliar used to write “toomorrow”.
Education, education, education. Pillock.
Me blood was up my apologies, ;o)
That must have been painful, but still 0/10 for spelling and grammar.
I meet alot of people from all walks of life through my job.
This election will I believe is like no other.
On one side you have good hard working honest people who want a better run economy and less waste.
On the other side you have mostly hard working people who want a better run economy and less waste, but have their wages subsidised in the form of Working Tax Credits and Child Tax Credits.
If you earn less than £20000 you can not afford for the Tories to get in as history shows you will be thrown to the wolves.
No longer can you say get on your bike to find work, as when you get there you wll find 200 economic migrants who are willing to do the job for less pay aswell as being higher qualified.
It doesn’t matter how we have got here, but we are where we are and I believe that this election will be too tight to call.
It doesn’t matter how we have got here,
BULLSHIT!.
It’s absolutely fucking critical to understand how we got here so we can get out of here.
At the moment this incompetent government is blaming the banks for getting is all here. Now this would be hysterically funny if the BBC weren’t reporting it as fact 24/7.
So, the Labour/BBC BIG LIE. Is that the banks were reckless, lending bazillions to muppets to buy insanely over-priced houses which they would never be able to pay back. The solution to this is to…
…print more money to enable the banks to lend more money to muppets to maintain the insane over-priced houses while cutting interest rates to practically zero so that nobody is forced to sell their over-priced house, crystallize the losses and establish a more affordable price for housing.
The solution to too much borrowing is…. more borrowing.
It’s fucking nuts. How we got here is critical to fixing the problem. we got here because our government is incompetent, reckless, profligate, fucking nuts.
The first part of the solution is to get rid of the people who destroyed the economy. All the time they’re lying about the cause (It wasnae me) then they’re not fixing the problem. They’re just looking to cover up their idiocy and in doing so are making the problem 10 times worse.
If you work hard but earn less than £20000, you are skint.
People are looking for help in paying their gas, electricity, council tax, road tax, mortgage, school dinners, childcare, petrol, clothing, etc.
My point isn’t that the country has been royally screwed by successive governments, my point is which party is most likely to keep you afloat?
I’ll help them with their fucking mortgage.
I’ll make houses half the price they are today by the simple expedient of whacking up interest rates to (say) 5% thus forcing those who have over-borrowed at insanely low interest rates to sell their houses to younger couples at a fucking sensible price. Hey presto. One bank*rupt person who owes no money and another couple in a house they can afford. Whereas at present we have two sets of people who can afford fuck all we will now have two sets of people who have got some pocket money.
High house prices are the single biggest barrier to getting out of this recession. we have just squandered 300bn quid to keep house prices insanely high when we should have left the market to decimate them (house prices) and the money that was thus freed up would have produced a genuine recovery by now.
Would you vote for bankruptsy?
Good stuff!
No need to rely on interest rates even JGM2; you could for example:
a) Remove all of the props to pricing eg housing associations and all of the shared purchase gimmicks
b) Throw out onto the open market all one million empty houses languishing (mainly) in local government control
c) Get the FSA to tell lenders they either stick to a borrowing cap of three times earnings or produce a genuine affordability formula with audit trail
Job done. This afternoon I will deal with the economy via the simple concept of a 10% flat tax.
Lunch beckons. Any Liebore idiots out there, please argue amongst yourselves for now.
Yea that’s a great idea dumbass. People like me, borrowing at 3.5x will have to pay more as well. Believe it or not, we’re the majority. It’s a bit of a myth that everyone in this country has a 110% interest only mortgage.
History doesn’t show you will be thrown to the wolves, it shows consistently that the ‘workers’ (those that work) do better under conservative governments.
What history does show is that the Soshalists doubled your tax from 10% to 20%, which should have annoyed people earning around £20,000 but apparently they can’t work out how much they’ve been shafted these days.
The BBC said that mong was meeting with the left of centre Governments today, UK, Greece, Portugal and Spain.
Wow what else might they all have in common I wonder?
He’ll probably give them a patronizing lecture on how to run a successful economy.
Like he would have a fucking clue.
The way to run an economy – in fact the way to do anything is wait for Brown to (belatedly) make a decision and then do the polar opposite. Because the man has a gift for picking the most fuck-witted option out of a basket of options ranging from ‘correct’ to ‘utterly-fuckwitted’.
Socialist International
Tthe right to vote was a hard earned process.
It started with the Bill of Rights in 1689 and the process ended in an Act in 1867 when labourers were finally given the franchise.
Woman only received the right to vote with an Act in 1918 (followed by an Act in 1928).
My point? It is a crying shame to stay away from exercising your right to vote. This is the quickest way of ensuring that you may lose that right forever. It is better to vote for the Monster Raving Loony Party than just not voting and, if one of their team ever got in, imagine the consternation of every MP in the House!
Failing that, make your mind up on the day and when you go to vote, vote for an independent or one of the smaller parties. OK, so they won’t get in but it will also upset the major parties. They deplore the lack of turnout but you can bet they are secretly pleased. If you vote for an independent or smaller party and there is a large turnout, the cosy two will start to wonder what will happen if a “leader” started to emerge from a smaller party. And no, Nick and Nigel aren’t the leaders I am hoping for!
As a last resort, go and write across your voting paper with a large black marker pen, None of these blerry shower. Blerry is not a swearword but they will know what you mean.
BUT GO TO THE POLLING STATION AND DO SOMETHING. Even if you don’t believe it will do any good. If you strapped up your left arm for a few years and tried to use it, you wouldn’t be able to. If you don’t vote for election after election, believe me, the politicians are already wondering how they can remove your franchise.
Ampers
Well said, Ampers. Couldn’t agree more.
I haven’t decided who I’m going to vote for yet, except that it won’t be Labour and it won’t be Tory. But I am 100% that I’m going to vote.
Am I still allowed to do my usual, Ampers?
I always add my own box at the bottom, called ‘None of the Above’, and put my X there.
Nihilistic, I know, but I’ve been doing it since 1983 and see nothing in any of the parties to attract my support – now if Hague, Hannan and Boris were in charge of the Tories that might change, but I’m afraid Dave is just too bland and stupid for my tastes – another identikit Blair copy is not what we need.
Surely it would be best to get Dave in the job first to prevent McDoom clinging on. It maybe easier to change a Tory leader than a NuLab one.
That’s fine, as long as you realise that Labour and the Tories are laughing at people like you all the way to their expenses claims, knowing that as long as there are enough people like you, they’ll continue taking it in turns to run the country. And royally bollocksing it up.
Looks like the stay at homes have it
Er, Guido, you do know that there are more than 2 parties, right?
Hopefully Guido does know , the BBBC on the other hand ,don’t have a clue! They think there are two and a half and that half is just there as the butt of bad jokes.
Madness is repeating the same process and expecting a different outcome.
Don’t vote for any factions the Westminster party.
Looking at the figures behind the headline numbers in the YouGov Survey it’s evident that the civilised part of the world (i.e England and Wales) put the conservatives 18% ahead of labour while the Northern Wastelands (i.e. Scotland and its close neighbours the Southern Scottish) reverse that.
The question then should be that in order to protect the best interests of the civilised world and ensure that Labour is soundly destroyed what should be done with those pesky inhabitants of the northern wastelands who are either A) Too thick to vote or B) Too drunk to realise that a bunch of incompetent, corrupt and thieving shysters have been playing at running the country these last few years?
The Conservative Party at present resembles a £3.99 Iceland Party finger food pack. They both offer a bit of everything but have little nutritional value.
if thats the best that the torys can put up on question time god help us…..are there any normal torys out there?????????
That is so hard to read and understand. Are you an Indian call centre operator?
Would you like to borrow my ear trumpet?
Did you say crumpet or trumpet?
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If he thinks large numbers of members are going to be exerting themselves after what they now know namely that dave is just as devious as his political god BLAIR he is deceiving himself. Could I suggest that when he goes for one of those rare pints of beer with best mate (lately of the lower fourth) Gove he considers inviting a couple of real experienced politicians.
UKIP will have at least 500 candidates running in the GE. Lets get ourselves out of the EU and build a future for this party. Those Tory MPs who are feigning left to appease Cameron, deserve to stay with him and sink in the mire.
I want to vote UKIP, but I don’t want to lose my local MP (James Paice) and get a Liebour or Wankberal MP instead. It’s a real dilemma.
Leave the EU and seal our borders, then we can sort out all the illegals being given succour by the state.