No Danny, No.
Guido is enjoying the to-ing and fro-ing* between Fraser Nelson and the Fink. Today something Fink said stood out as uncharacteristically crass:
If the Tories were now to cut taxes immediately upon on entering office, what would happen? It would, erm, destabilise the economy, wouldn’t it.
No, Danny it would not.
Imagine, and this will take some imagination, Nick Clegg in No. 10 and Vince Cable in No. 11 the day after the election. They implement their manifesto pledge to raise the tax threshold to £10,000 reducing the Treasury’s take by circa £100 £20 billion. It would cost about one-tenth as much as quantitative easing and be a far greater stimulus. That would be £100 £20 billion injected into the real economy rather than foreign bond investor’s portfolios, benefiting the lowest paid the most. That would inject a colossal boost into the economy, increasing demand on the high street, to manufacturing and to every consumer facing business. The effect on GDP and overall growth would be tremendous, not destabilising
Danny might retort with tales of bond yields rising as a result, but bond traders understand that a growing economy supports their coupon payments, whereas a flat or contracting economy is a greater sovereign credit risk. A growing economy can afford to finance a budget deficit if necessary. An over-taxed, low to no growth economy can’t. High taxes, and Britain is a high tax economy after 13 years of Gordon, destabilise the foundations of a strong economy, driving enterprise into the ground or overseas. Guido remembers when this was ideologically core to Conservative thinking, it was when they won elections…
*If you haven’t been following the debate it starts with Fraser’s lecture to the CPS which Fink responded to. Fraser came back with this and Fink answered here. Then Fraser gave his response. This piece refers to Fink’s latest response.
Well said about tax Guido, but the real elephant is still the £600,000,000,000 a year of government spending. – that’s nearly half the GDP and rising spent on fuck all productivity.
Got to hand it to you on that one Guido, Spot on on the economy again!
I often stated in crass terms that the QE would have been better spent paying off £20,000 from every one of the public’s mortgages costing 232 Billion pounds.
It would have reduced debt, given a massive boost to the economy and It would almost pay off what is left of my mortgage.
But nah, they give it all to the elite city traders!
Just give the £20,000 to each person to spend or save as they see fit. Those of us who have been prudent enough to pay off our debts and mortgages in the good times, and save when we could are now being hammered hard, and increasing inflation is going to hit us harder. We’ve been kicked in the goolies for being prudent, and it’s about time we had a break.
Lord, how I HATE this government and it’s economic incontinence…
78 days and counting….
Taxes are going UP.
Wakey fucking wakey!
Osborne and Darling have all but admitted it.
There’s going to be some very unhappy spluttering when they do go up if this level of self delusion continues.
Labour probably would increase taxes if they won the election, thus stifling the economy. The Tories may increase some taxes, but much more reluctantly.
The old dividing line between the parties still holds – Labour’s instinct is to tax and spend (witness the last decade), the Tories are by instinct the party of lower taxes and smaller government. The Lib Dems are basically believers in Big Government, and hence high tax levels, which makes their current idea uncharacteristic but nontheless welcome.
UKIP were the first to put forward a flat tax policy, and even though the Lib Dems seem to have stolen parts of it the original is so much better:
http://www.ukip.org/media/pdf/ukipflattaxpolicy.pdf
This will soon be updated
Pensions and welfare ere here:
http://www.ukip.org/media/pdf/UKIPpensions.pdf
http://www.ukip.org/media/pdf/UKIPwelfare.pdf
You are all morons of the lowest kaliber. You should not be allowed alcohol. You are hereby suspended from voting.
You are all oiks of the lowest klass. You should not be allowed housing. You are hereby suspended from voting.
On the subject of elephants in the room:
Quality!
It’s simple really, if you want the tax cut that guido has in his example you need to have Vince Cable in No 11. You might not like it but you Tories who visit this blog and live in Lab controlled constiuencies where you cannot hope to win need to vote LibDem in order to get McRuin out of No 10…… I am right.
I agree with that Mr Ned. Instead of giving the money to the banks, they certainly should have just given it to the consumers of the banks instead, and let them decide where it should go.
agree with the sentiment here, but that would surely have been hyper-inflationary….savers have been undermined by this incompetant bunch of arses in government, but this amount of money flowing through the economy would have completely wiped out the value of savings – at least the QE phantom money has not entered the economy and this is the only thing keeping Britain from being the next Zimbabwe….
The reason that I suggested that the money should have been paid into people’s Mortgage accounts is that then, the banks would still get their money, the money would stay in this country longer and this would help our economy instead of Japan’s, China’s or other countries.
If we just gave all that money to people direct, they would spend a lot of it on foreign goods. At least paying a chunk off people’s mortgages would have helped the banks when they needed it, AND helped 11.6 million people of this country directly too.
What about those of us have paid off our mortgages by our own hard work? Do we get nothing?
totally agree, Guido, concur that during 1987 or 1988 when the top rate of tax went from 60% down to 40% the overall tax take went up. Lefties were of course in denial ..
But, but, but, but, but the rich got off with it lightly. That is so unfair.
The best thing that could happen is that Parliamentarians are subject to all the laws of the land in equal measure. Including Tax Law.
The only exception is that they should retain protection against libel and slander litigation, but to be newly liable for deliberate lying and misleading the House.
And so the Colossus that is the Public Sector rolls on, and increases our liabilities.
Protected Pensions are not only unfair, but totally unaffordable.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/uk-had-to-borrow-for-first-time-in-january-1903383.html
NEWSFLASH and were getting news from our Jocular correspondent that McDoom has just made an enourmous injection into the Sperm Bank. There that should quantiatively ease the situation somewhat.
No you are spot on they should give us all about £20’000 that would have boosted all our finances and shut those bleedin bankers up!
Good point there
Your argument is bullet proof Guido. Those on low incomes spend 95% of their incomes immediately upon receiving them so the 20 billion of tax cuts would be immediately injected into the economy, unlike the banker bonuses and profits which will be hordered and which the bankers will expect interest payments on thereby causing further inflation.
The reason the Conservatives will not raise the personal allowance to 10K is because they place the Conservative government’s interest above the national interest. They are too cowardly to take the tough decisions.
Change, Dave?
The New Labour party have been placing their party’s interests above the national interest for the last twelve years and look where it has got us. It seems as if the Conservatives plan to continue in exactly the same vein as the corrupt, self-serving Labour party.
If the Tories do not raise the personal allowance to 10k then the double dip recession they have warned us of will occur.
This makes clear how clueless the political classes are. Why should they know better? They don’t need to – guaranteed salaries,expenses,subsidised meals,subsidised offices. The rate of tax makes no odds to them. if it’s too high, claim a little extra.
You will be telling us next that there will be gunshots and blood on the streets as a consequence of recent events.
More cover ups than a Belgian or Austrian ring of roses.
I think the authoritarians presume that if the middle classes were left to spend their own earnings they’d simply barrow the cash into their back gardens every Saturday and incinerate it. This is the only explanation for such arrant nonfinksense.
Happens to me all the time.
Perhaps we should just write about butterfly collecting and jam making.
Now where is that telescopic sight?
2 sugars dear
And a piece of that nice sponge cake you made earlier
Labour sells NHS hospitals to private sector, true jobless totals hidden, As someone with the remains of an Equitable Life pension may I say “**** you, Brown”? I feel a little better for that!
And yes, I really DID feel better for saying that! Most economic problems re pensions and just about everything else can be laid at the clay feet of Gordon Brown. Tony Blair did not understand it, so left Brown to do all that tricky financial and economic stuff. Sadly for the country.
Blair is just as responsible imo.
The trouble is, the electorate are easily distracted. There’s more discussion over Brown’s crocodile tears in the MSM than the shocking level of national debt.
If people really understood the mess the country’s economics were in, Labour would be lucky to get 10% of the vote.
I burn my paper cash on a sunday generally.
Let’s hope that’s still in Tory thinking rather than pledging to waste loads more money on stuff like the NHS which needs to be got rid of…
Trouble is McBastard has recruited millions into the public sector, who are all squeeky bumming and already planning strikes. The right are shitting themselves…soft bastards
You’re an idiot! Most of the public sector workers are on crap pay, exploited to the hilt and need a revolution to kick their idiotic management up the hiney to ensure the place is run correctly. There are several tiers of management in my service and none of the idiots have a clue! Wasting more money than they raise/save through utter ignorance of their service and how to fairly deliver it.
Don’t knock the bin collectors either, they work hard for sh!t money… £14000 a year is hardly a decent salary for those that keep us all out of the sh!t!
£14k a year is just the basic though: remember they get to eat loads of free leftovers and scraps.
£14,000 = £965 per month net.
That’s just over 2 months of MP’s food troughing claims.
or £222.77 per week net.
That’s how much Yvette Boy Cooper spends on make-up every week to try and make her look a little like a woman.
Utter rubbish the bin men I know are on great money basic + bonus + any overtime + back handers from local business (pubs etc) to take their rubbish.
One of the best jobs in the town and a closed shop friends and family only.
Never feel sorry for bin men it’s a myth they are all poor.
Oh and nice pension as well and no heavy lifting now.
Don’t bin men get a months full holiday as well?
and free bin liner bags!
every hole’s a goal though
Plus of course the Christmas card, and the follow up card with “second warning” written on it of an envelope with £ 50 in it wasn’t immediately forthcoming.
..ah ha, but nowhere near as much as those who got us in the shit in the first place
Unfortunately there are truck loads of civil servants who, through no fault of their own (by which I mean they are doing what they have been asked, and probably work hard) are wasting everybody’s time and money as McTwatchops has created jobs for the boys that produce jack shit
That’s been the way of it – binmen battling to keep us out of the shit while Brown has been determined to bury us deep in it!
No they aren’t. The scoundrels are keeping very quiet.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/7259289/Councils-afraid-to-say-how-much-they-pay-chiefs.html
That’s why Dave’s first action should not be cut public services, nor should it be cut taxes. It should be to make public sector strikes illegal and sequestrate the unions’ war chests. Then he can cut taxes and cut the bloated state (starting with the NHS and schools).
Agree 100% with that Guido. I find it incredible that the so-called working class of which I am one – keep voting for the bloody reds when it is clear the Blues and even the Yellows will help the taxation status of the poorest whilst the Reds continually tax to give back – what a complete joke this economy is! Good manufacturing businesses will fail because of this maniacal governments obsession with tax!
The left in power needs its perpetual unending clients sucking at the teet of big statism.
It gives the reds a never ending reason to exist & expand. It denies all betterment of individuals outside of the confines of the “collective”, by their own hard work & inititiative for their own profit.
Dead right – taxing people and then giving some of it back is inherently inefficient, since collecting the tax and administering the benefits both require costly administration. Letting people keep more of their earnings is far more effective – they’ll spend some as they see fit, paying indirect taxes as they do, or save it, thus making capital available to the wider economy. Their greater spending power will stimulate the economy, thus generating more jobs, so more spending – and so on. It also saves the public purse a small fortune in administration costs. Win-win-win, to use the current argot.
That’s amazing – the Lib Dems have come up with a good idea!
It’s not just inefficient, it’s disgusting. Who the fuck is any Labour PM to steal my money, waste most of it and then if he decides I have been sufficiently socially engineered, will give some of it back to me? We need a revolution in this country – the LibDems tax plan might be just what is needed to kick it all off.
as a council fucking div and looser in labours eyes ive always said i work my bollocks off for 40 years i pay my dues and after that i can spend whats left on what i want. Labour have and always will think they can spend your money better than you can.
Guess what never voted Labour never will now im back to my pool.
Fink just does not “get it”.
Higher taxes are the ruin of all vibrant economic scenes in any territory in any age.
These media elites in their ivory towers are as bad as the fiscal lunatics of the political elite.
What planet are they on?
Fink is rich enough to pay the high tax rates and not feel the damage. He doesn’t realise how much middle and low income earners get hammered in a high tax economy.
Finks can only get wetter.
£10k? Lets go the whole hog and have it at Minimum Wage working 40 hours a week, circa £12k.
But, yes, taxing jobs is madness.
Completely, why the fuck is anyone on minimum wage paying income tax on one hand, only for the government to give it back with the other in credits and benefits.
Even setting the system up to be ‘revenue-neutral’ by reducing the handouts would save billions in the bureauracy alone!
Tax credits are a gerrymandering device created by Gordon Brown.
If it were a policy to reduce poverty it would not extend to those on fifty thousand pounds a year.
The policy was implemented so if the Tories abolished it Brown could turn around and say “Look, the Tories don’t care about the poor” which is exactly the line the Labour minister took against the uselessly ineffective Theresa May on Radio 5 this morning. The fact that the Conservatives are only going to take it away from those on fifty thousand a year was quickly skated over by the minister and was not defended vigorously or sufficiently enough by poor, useless Theresa.
The Labour party are baiting the Tories with such tricks. The Tories would be well advised to keep their arguments simple and their explainations straightforward and not be badgered into defensive positions by such Labour techniques.
And they will also need to increase the personal allowance so those currently on tax credits would not lose a penny if the credits were to be removed.
The administration of the tax credits system is like the Indian railways. You have to see three people behind a desk to buy one ticket. It all bolsters the client state and acts as a masiive disincentive to enerprise. Unfortunately resistance is useless. They have F****d us up so big time that we are beyond repair. Dave for one certainly wont do bugger all about it.
Scrap the tax credits and raise allowances instead!
Simple!
Pity that 70% of all consumer spending is on imports.. so the GDP effect on employment will be negligible.
There’s a simple answer to that – leave the EU, join NAFTA and impose a 50% import duty on goods from the Far East.
O’Bummer seems intent on pissing the Chinese off at the moment (first the Taiwan arms deal, now he’s going to meet the Dalai Lama), and he wouldn’t be doing that unless he had a good exit strategy for when the Chinks decide to fuck the dollar over.
Oh, and while we’re at it, we can send a few million Muslims home, so that would save 20-30% of public spending on unwanted human imports as well.
I think you’re ignoring consumer expenditure on services.
”Oh, and while we’re at it, we can send a few million Muslims home, so that would save 20-30% of public spending on unwanted human imports as well.”
The only reason alot of them are here in the first place is the drugs trade.
No more deficit financing. I’m all for raising the thresholds, but would prefer NI is drastically cut. At 100 billion, it could be abolished.
with a tear in my eye, a lump in my throat and a heavy heart
I have to say thank you to new labour and Tony and Gordon and Peter
for making me the man I am today.
thank you for making me unemployed and, at my age, unemployable ever again
thank you for making me poor, with an income now that can only be called state endorsed poverty
thank you for ruining any chanc I have of a reasonable pension
thank you for denying my kids of ever having a reasonable pension because they will have to go abroad to work and make a living
I will never see them again
thank you new labour for fucking up my life and the life of my family
Lets go and kick the crap out of them – they deserve a serious thrashing
They’re all on my list
I could have written that too. The *astards. I’m for street protests, riots or whatever it takes.
Your chance is nigh.
Jonah McSnot is trying for a Thatcher/Falklands rerun and will soon postpone the election and declare a national emergency.
The bastard has so overstretched and under funded the armed forces that this time Argies will just walk in.
That’s like blaming a dog because it barks. Socialists do what socialists do. You SHOULD blame the middle class who deserted their natural allegiance to become all trendy and vote Labour. Now they’ve learnt but it’s probably too late.
Last time I checked raising the PA to 10k would not cost £100 billion, it would cost closer to 10….
Do you really think the Lib Dems are offering a £100 billion tax cut in the middle of the recession with a budget deficit of nearly £200 billion itself?
Sort if out Guido
Roughly some £3,500 increase in the allowance x 28 million working population ~ £98 billion.
Given the increased spending power of the recipients of the tax cut (and consequent payment of indirect taxes such as VAT), and the reduction in the amount of administration to collect In come Tax, the net loss to the treasury would be a lot less than £98 billion.
Following Guido’s ammendment – “the net loss to the treasury would be a lot less than £20 billion.”
Yeah but they only pay 20% tax and some people won’t earn the full £10k and it would reduce tax credits so somewhere between £10 -£20 billion seems about right.
As most people pay tax at 20%, surely you’d have to divide it the £100bn by 5?
That would make it £20bn.
But maths was never my strong point…
Of course, doh! Amended to £20 billion.
Give the unemployed the printers and they can print more money.
They would be working then stupid, so would have their housing benefit cut.
This meaning they would have to pay for their living accomodation out of their own income. Income has to be taxed so they………….
You get the idea. You must think these things through…….
Or maybe you should stand for election somewhere…
Fuck me Guido, with arithmatic like that you could get a job filling out Jack Straws council Tax returns !!!
But it’s the tax on that, isn’t it?
Yep. It’s about 31% of that for basic-rate earners, 41% for higher-rate earners and 20% or 40% respectively for pensioners and non-workers.
In fact a lot of the money would come back through additional VAT revenue and taxing the increased incomes and profits of the businesses and people we spent our money with – and so on, in a virtuous circle.
I stand by my figure of about £10 billion (maybe a bit more). The cost straight up would be 20 billion, but then you have higher VAT takes, higher economic growth and less unemployment as the gap between the lowest paid jobs and sitting on your arse becomes larger.
You incentivise jobs and growth and take the poor out of tax for a mere £10 billion (or maybe a bit more). Sounds good to me
Why should Labour help and protect the lowest wage earners?
It should be faith based with exemptions for all Muslims. The rest should stump up the shortfall.
Praying so many times a day brings the KPI’s down quite a lot.
er.
wont many people spend their extra money on petrol, fags, betting and booze. So even more money for the treasury!
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Spot the Difference
President & Mrs Ceausescu
President & Mrs Marcos
President Amin
Mr Chancer & Baroness Blair
Answers on a postcard to the Fink or the Fiske
How about Yasser Arafat, reputedly left several billion in Swiss Bank accounts. His wife lived in Paris on £100,000 a year allowance.
Well, would you live with him?
Yasser Arafat was Ringo Star’s tax avoidance scheme. It worked brilliantly and till this day no one has suspected the truth.
I died quite happily and old in saudi arabia.
Peter Cook was funny
you’re a twat
Shlomo Fink is the past.
His mindset is set in the days of Tory meltdowns, when having an opinion, a stance, was to invite cries of baby killer Tory!
Just as the current crap of NaziLabour ministers still believe the public are minded to actually believe their utterances as they were for a few years, new unbagged realist Finking is required.
Be radical, cut spending and set the economy free, dont listen to wealthy Neo Socialist scum
I’m in favour of a bit of inflation too. A Monetary splurge of 100 billion will push up inflation like a balloon, which will also impact on interest rates, that will please savers, make mortgages payable over a quicker period and will ultimately scare off foreigners from lining their greasy pockets by speculating on the hitherto one-way bet on UK property.
The pound must sink more to its real value – ideally about 50 cents, which will mean an Exodus of unwanted guest workers.
Sounds good to me. That’s why Dave won’t do it, which is why Dave won’t get my vote.
I know this is nothing to do with your post Guido
but I just couldn’t resist shouting out:
“F**king Great, Mossad!!”
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Exactly – a country that knows how to handle themselves – in hard with max firepower and take out the cancer.
Reminds me of one of their PM’s – he was in the squad that took down one of the Munich ’72 gang – he dressed up as a woman and went in to the flat to double tap the scumbo.
Can’t see Brown doing that (apart from the dressing in women’s clothing,of course).
Just love the tennis outfits and the cheeky UK passports scam – now when ARE the Home Office going to tell us what they know about fake passports??
Well how’s this for a thought: the hit team weren’t competent because their cover was blown. None of them can work undercover again. A price worth paying? Hardly! One dead terrorist for eleven convert agents’ careers doesn’t seem to me to be a good swap.
Now, do you think Mossad are that incompetent? I’m guessing this op was supposed to blown, and the story was supposed to go public. It’s a warning to Iran and the world at large that the war is on. Gulf War III coming to a box office near you this summer!
As they seem to have used false passports/stolen identities, just how, exactly, is their cover blown?
You did see their faces in the papers right?
It was writ large as a stern warning. Iran is a shambles, and they are going to be put back in their box quite soon.
spot on.
http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/politics/international_politics/hit+aposunprofessionalapos+says+ex+mossad+official/3547142
Not just assassination, M&Ssad assassination…
‘Claps’
Nice one Steve
I’m not convinced the Israelis were involved. It strikes me as too incompetent for them. More like another arab state security service job or an incompetent European one.
No – it was Mossad all right – just making the point that they are still around and don’t give a fuck who knows.
Netenyahoo [sic] is a fucking nutter and wants to send the message to the world that Israel will act in isolation if they don’t get what they want.
Expect the bombs to fall on Natanz within the month – sanctions aren’t enough to restrain the Israelis any more.
Can’t believe the Reds and Yellows are screaming at Israel. Mossad have taken out a very dangerous man. Israel are the front line in the war against terror and deserve our support. Great work from the brave little nation!
Absolutely spot on and Israel will probably be left to sort out Iran’s nuclear weapons because Obumma and the rest of the west have got no balls.
Reagan would have destroyed Iran’s nuke factories years ago.
very good.gets rid of what they’ve got we don’t want. But while we’re there what have they got we do.eh eh?
Brown wants, guess what, another enquiry into it, at huge public cost no doubt, to discover what exactly?
How its different from the SAS execution of a Provo active service unit in Gibraltar for one?
Everyone knows the answer;
The UK is the whore of the world, anything at any price.
Anyone fresh of the banana boat could of got those passports, come on in, take what you want.
Those passports where easier to get legally than on the black market.
I think I agree with this. How do we know it was anything to do with Israel? Far too obvious for Mossad, quite possibly another faction such as Fatah — they hate each others’ guts.
All six passports were of people with ‘dual citizenship’ – i.e. formerly British people who have taken |Israeli nationality. At least two of them now live in Israel.
Kind of narrows down the list of suspects, doesn’t it?
Fatah ‘lives in Israel’ (or very nearby).
Can’t see Mossad being that stupid.
Ring ring. Mossad here any chance of a dozen passports.
You want to live in a foreign country, you have to show the authorities your passport.
It will probably be copied and the details will certainly be stored.
What other countries have the British passport holders visited besides Israel?
Any one of them could have used the information.
Moley you make an interesting point. Just where did the Dubai authorities get the passport photos from? If these were “tourists” then they would have obtained a visit visa at the airport. Not having visited Dubai myself I am unaware of their immigration regime but does this mean they keep jpegs of every passport submitted? If these passports were forgeries rather than fradulently obtained documents then why didn’t the authorities spot this? So many questions so few answers.
a dozen is fine,13 would have looked like a scottish pedophile crew were disapperaing
I quite agree.
The SAS used to assassinate IRA suspects in Northern Ireland but now the Catholics and Protestants are sharing power.
Northern Ireland was a more intractable problem that the Israel Palestine conflict.
Mossad have successfuly assassinated this terrorist but in the end they are terrorists too and they are just pissing in the wind.
You have to look at the bigger picture.
Oh, yeah. The best secret service on the planet used easily traceable passports and chose a hotel crawling with CCTV for an assasination for which they would be seen as favourites.
Fatah? SAVAK? FIFA?
Double Bluff
The real question is :
Did Mossad clear the operation with the Jewish Foreign Secretary Millibana and the Jewish Lord High Archbishop Peter Mandelscum ?
And get their promise to “cover up” after ???!!!
Too amateur an operation for Mossad – no way they would have left any evidence.
Heard on the radio yesterday (BBC) asking an expert on ‘organised crime’ if this could have been Mossad. Might ask the same expert about New Labour.
Da Fink in another Pink funk!
….erm does dis guy live on a Fink estate den, or what?
Nick Clegg and Vince Cable are really characters in a BBC soap called “The Today Programme”.
23 – Cleggover, St Vinc and the rest of the Limp Dimwits are nothing more than braindead numpties who I wouldn’t trust to run a bath.Hungry for power at any cost including fucking the British people over on voting reform ie AV which would benefit them and Lab very nicely.Not to mention voting against a Tory amendment to allow the British people a referendum on future international treaties ( fucking cnuts don’t let these bastards get away with this one Dave-the electorate will fume for sure over this)
Absolute bastards and you can bet your last penny if these cnuts were handed the reins of power they’de fuck us much, much ,more than Lab (if thats possible)over the EU.No shit I’d vote Labour before I voted these bastards.And thats never gonna happen.But what really annoys me is they seem to be getting away with attacking on the Tories whilst they are never scrutinised.Its about time that changed.Maybe Dave is saving his ammo for the debates-I do fucking hope so.Absolute cnuts.
Looks like the gloves are off on both sides with the poster campaigning.
http://mylabourposter.typepad.com/.a/6a0120a8abc3e4970b0120a8ac7e35970b-pi
Very harsh but very true
OUCH!
How about this for a Conservative Election Slogan….
” THE LABOUR GOVERNMENT HAVE FUCKED OUR ECONOMY RIGHT UP THE SHITTER, SO DONT EVEN THINK ABOUT VOTING FOR ANOTHER 5 YEARS OF THESE C UNTS ! ”
very harsh but very true !
Saw Vince Cable on sky news today…
seemed to be an apologist for Nulab.
LibDums seem to have it in their minds that the Tories (and only the Tories) are the enemy – just reinforces the “Vote yellow get Brown” argument to most people
Cable’s massively over-rated by the media. He is basically a big government man who wants to nationalise everything but who came up with a superb line about Gordon Brown turning from Stalin to Mr Bean. Don’t be fooled, the Lib Dems are basically a sub-division of Nu Labour.
I think the mr bean line originally came from a hack.
Yellow the colour of cowardice
What a good slogan,the Tories should use it .
And when this ‘stimulus’ needs to be turned off? What then? Put taxes back up?
Certainly we need to cut expenditure to make room for tax cuts.
But we have to cut £90 billion just to remove the structural deficit.
Cuts beyond that can be used to reduce taxation. And certainly we could rejig taxation so that tax thresholds can be raised. They do need to be raised significantly and may be this can be done in tandem with reorganising and cutting benefits to ‘carrot and stick’ people back into jobs.
Yvette Boy Cooper;
“We are not out of the woods yet”
Amazing – 2.5 million PLUS at least another 500,000 and “we are not out of the woods yet”.
In woods you can find oak trees with some strong branches – rope/branch/stool/kick
Dr. David Kelly didn’t make it out of the woods.
Yeah and whats happening about the campaign to remove the 70 year ban on the evidence!!
What evidence? Papers? Inquiry? Who is this Kelly of whom you speak?
More questions than a D-Notice to protect…………………..
Quite right Guido. And if we cut Government expenditure while reducing taxes, the deflationary effect of the former would help to offset any inflationary effect of the latter.
Just as the real reason terrorists blow people up is because they enjoy it, so the real reason Governments levy high taxes is because they want to.
Very funny website:
http://mylabourposter.typepad.com/blog/
Guido, please put this up. Happened to see it when I was in Borders yesterday. It’s a book by a guy called Gordon Brown called ‘Falling’.
http://www.thedrum.co.uk/pub/files/photos/news/10440/main.WEB_GordonBrownBook021.jpg
PM Gordon Brown’s memoirs will called “Failing”
Just a reflection
Just a glimpse
Just a little reminder
Of all the what abouts
And all the might have
Could have beens
Another day
Some other way
But not another reason to continue
And now you’re one of us
The wretched
The hopes and prays
The better days
The far aways
Forget it
It didn’t turn out the way you wanted it to
It didn’t turn out the way you wanted it to, did it?
It didn’t turn out the way you wanted it to
It didn’t turn out the way you wanted it to, did it?
Now you know
This is what it feels like
Now you know
This is what it feels like
The clouds will part and the sky cracks open
And god himself will reach his fucking arm
Through
Just to push you down
Just to hold you down
Stuck in this hole with the shit and the piss
And it’s hard to believe it could come down to thisback at the beginning
Sinking
Spinning
And in the end
We still pretend
The time we spend
Not knowing when
You’re finally free
And you could be
But it didn’t turn out the way you wanted it to
It didn’t turn out quite the way that you wanted it
Now you know
This is what it feels like
Now you know
This is what it feels like
You can try to stop it but it keeps on coming
You can try to stop it but
were you always an embarrassing cock or did you hve to work at it for years ?
Hmmm.. Didn’t think Trent Reznor had any NuLabour affiliations?
O/T but an interesting video of a speech from Cameron to the TED conference.
Maybe he is more radical in his approach than a lot of people give him credit for, he almost sounds like Hannan in this, talking about the post-bureaucratic age:
http://www.ted.com/talks/david_cameron.html
A very impressive presentation from DC. He’s much more radical than when he is speaking to the mainstream media in the UK. He’s so much broader and up to date in his thinking than Mr Brown.
My only complaint is that it is a shame that he did not include this speech in his list of favourite American speeches. Our government has got vastly too big and for the health of its citizens must be made dramatically smaller. Self-rule of our nation’s people is only way out of our current mess.
I think you’re right. He did come across as quite radical. TED talks are often interesting because the presenters assume a limited audience of like-minded poeple, so they are usually pretty honest about things without resorting to self censorship.
Low taxes = high growth.
Lesson of economics no. 1. Cutting taxes destabilising the economy?! Don’t think so. It’s called easing fiscal policy. Best thing to do in a recession. The reason we haven’t done it (excluding the worthless temporary VAT reduction) is twofold:
1. Labour are too thick to understand that, as Churchill said, trying to tax your way out of a recession is like standing in a bucket and trying to lift it up by the handle;
2. We had a sizeable budget deficit BEFORE the recession hit. Combine this with falling tax revenues and… surprise, surprise, we can’t afford it.
Unfortunately, the Tories haven’t yet come up with any seriously credible plans on tax. They’ve got some tax breaks planned (IHT & Marriage Tax), but they don’t go far enough.
I’m all for cutting tax. As much as possible, and for any reason. But I do think that some taxes should be cut FIRST.
Cutting Tax, if they did every tom dick and harry left wing journalist would be frothing at the mouth to bring him down,sad but true.
OT. BBC trying to get treason laws repealed.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8511120.stm
Maybe Gordon is not quite so sure of his retirement?
Members of a Government which deliberately allowed and encouraged unlimited immigration in order to permanently change the nature of the country might well be accused of treason.
Particularly if there was evidence that the policy was deliberately concealed.
If I was on the jury I would vote “Guilty”.
No wonder Pravda has been briefed to get the legislation repealed.
A Prime Minister who is too scared to be photographed signing the Lisbon Treaty might consider he is committing a treasonable act?
Those drugged up bastards at the BBC should all be done for treason.
the tories are as stupid as labour!
but i think that you are missing the point here g/f………
the tories don’t want us little people to have money or any say in what happens either!
they have all read books and so they are now experts………
the govt. causes inflation and unemployment with its ridiculous tax take.
countries cannot exist without wealth creation…….
keep spending as an individual and eventually you go broke and lose your credit worthiness.it is the same for countries too.
sadly we have labour who just piss money away on non-jobs and tories that do not understand that simply copying them is a recipe for disaster……
isn’t there one person on the tory bench that understands?
No
This is what happens when Marxists take root in your country and within your education and public service systems.
We are on a course to hell on a hand cart.
Marxism is the devils ideology as ‘The path to hell is paved with good intentions’
The language used by the Marxists is designed to fool you so they can carry out their real intentions while you think and believe you and they are being ‘fair and equal’.
if you think Tony Blair or Mandleson or Brown or Cameron are ‘Marxists’ then you deserve to be the kind of submental fuckwit who parrots slogans fed to him by retards on Fox News
one day you might be able to take a shit without adult supervision
Mandleson was a communist when he was Young. Brown is Scottish which is pretty much the same thing, that goes for Blair too and Dave is a poor misunderstood minor Royal from the wrong side of the blanket. A right parcel of rogues. Yeah Marxists the lot of them. Next question please!
John Redwood does…
ivenevervotedlabourbut………..labourlist.brilliant get it out on the web
This is now getting very funny..
http://mylabourposter.typepad.com/blog/
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Guido,
I do hope you will take the time to read the excellent Martin Wolf’s column in today’s FT.
best
This is why I say there is no difference between Labour and the Tories. Since when did cutting taxes (ie giving people their money back, not a cost as some would put it) constitute an unreasonable policy suggesting. Screw marriage tax relief, how about the government not being such a bastard with my PAYE slip and let me keep my own sheckles?
Great stuff from Dale:
http://iaindale.blogspot.com/2010/02/number-ten-official-brown-called.html
“Sitting naked in his hotel room he (Brown) allegedly screamed at Wood: “You’re a c***”, and proceeded to abuse another member of staff, calling him an “even bigger c***”.
is it “char” ?
Errr…no.
Clot?
Carp?
Such delightful innocence….
Chump?
Sitting naked in his hotel room screaming?!!
OMG! the mind boggles. Obviously he needs some of that Dove for Men advertised by all those men in the bath video at the foot of this blog – ‘Be comfortable in your own skin’ – because gordon clearly isn’t!!
C unt and even bigger c unt.On the metric scale of c unts were does this put brown
Oh dear,Fawkes. You overlook the socialist double-whammy. They don’t just tax you till your eyes pop out; they bugger up the admin good and proper, too.
HM Revenue & Customs is proud owner of, you guessed it, a new computer system. This one has a randomized output for tax codes.
Labour economics.
You have two cows.
I take one of the cows and ‘invest’ it. I make you queue for several weeks and then give you a few burnt entrails from the cow. I burst into tears because I cannot give you more. I then take the other cow so that I can provide you with a proper beef dinner. I give it to a nice man in exchange for some magic beans. I then borrow five cows from the farmer down the road and promise to pay him back eleven cows in 20 years time. I tell you that I cannot give you the beef dinner I promised becuase other peasants have not given me all their cows. Instead, I and my mates eat the five cows. When you ask me about the beef dinner I blame Farmer Thatcher.
Since you are now destitute, I compassionately give you a very small cow. It is mad.
a mooot point
Gordonomics
You arrive from overseas and claim asylum. I give you two cows, a barn, free feed and promise to buy your milk at inflated prices if you promise to stuff envelopes at home once every four years.
You are part of a hard working family. I take three of your five cows and give them to recently arrived asylum seekers.
You are a successful business man. Your herd of 300 cows has been gradually reduced over the years to a mere 50 cows.
You are a city banker. Your imaginary herd of 128,784,999,000 cows has disappeared so I take 588 cows from every tax payer to cover your losses and let you keep all the milked profits. I paint 200,000,000 pieces of cardboard black and white and give them away to foreign farmers.
The foreign farmers realise the scam and complain to the International Milk Fund who come and tell me to halve my cow deficit in four years. I raise milk taxes and legislate that all unborn babies pay 2330 cows each until 2050.
Then I invite more asylum seekers and give them two cows each.
O/T i know but this has been on my mind all day
This morning on 5 live they were discussing unemployment
the debate seemed to suggest that most jobs on offer at the job center’s are for 10 or 12 hours a week
and mostly at minimum wage
so if this is correct and as callers were saying “if you work any more it reduces your benefits that means that there are 4 people doing each job of 40 hours
which keeps them off the unemployment figures and keeps them on benefits
which means that there are millions more people actually unemployed and labour just use this system to make the figures look better than what they really are
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1251666/Unemployment-reaches-highest-level-Labour-came-power.html
gordon today trying to tell us things are getting better!!
8.08million people are living on benefits (official figure) – bet there’s more!
21% of the population of working age are not earning a living
Official unemployment is even greater than it was in 1997.
Poor delusional gordon!!
You think ?
First Irish (wrong side of sheets) dave’s ancestral line now DANNY the FINK. is this some sort of Irish groundhog day?
I had some sypathy with the finks idea on you might get burnt fighting fire with fire , in part beacuse ruin was having a bunker week again , harriets interview , felt more like desperate for the loo , finding an empty cubicle , sitting down only to find the rolls run out !!.
Labour are spinning 500,000 less on dole than predicted so saving £2bn thanks to there wonderfull polices , no doubt not including other non working I doubt benfit payments have gone down overall .
I think your both wrong :
the fink : because he is underestimating the debts ability to become a black hole around which a slow cut leaves taxation as the only lever left and even then may not impact the debt quickly enough , if the fink thinks 2.5% growth will cure it hes dreaming .
Guido:because the cuts in public sector , will affect growth and purchase and reduce vat revenues from state purchase activity , leaving personal ecnomic activity to try and pay the debt .
the ruin/darling should have cut spending 2 yrs ago , marxist ecnomic theories that believe state sector activity can replace private sector activity is fundamentally flawed when you have a massive public debts and further banking toxic debts and weak exports .
Let us not forget that the bank bailout will not be a profitable return , so weakening tax abilities to clear it , on top of trying to fund wastefull state spending as well as our foriegn aid and war budgets .
The ruin has not given any credable plan to reduce the debt ,marxist ecnomics has no solution , labour have flushed loads of people down the pan until the banks get re capitalised to safe liquidity levels and currency stabilises .
to some extent even thatcher ecnomics struggles not so much with the principal but with the huge numbers and the financial nature of the crisis , rather than the productivity problem they faced in 1978. the abyss is effective the ability of the economy to cope with the debt , wether in bonds , pfi or toxic liabilities .
as for cleggy and vince being as he got barclays call wrong and manison tax is no use , they must be so pleased they backed lisbon .
Alas the ruins waste/fairy tale is now taking us into some very difficult decisions /corrections , never forget hes conducted a political treausry policy that will hurt a lot of people for many years to come , that is why he deserves his title of the ruin .
‘Ere missus,they’re having a go at us waste transfer operatives higher up on this thread. Insinuating we’re all earning a mint. Can we rely on your support if we file a claim for defamation and social discrimination?
It’s only your generous christmas tip that keeps the wolf from the door. Incidently,Heavy Breathing sends his undying love.
Egg and Cheese , glad heavy breathin sends his love , some dont want to go there at the moment which is understandable as international situation has changed a bit , pink boiler suites being handed out as compulsory and med diet back in fashion . padded cell on unlimited tariff being put out for anything deemed neanderthal and unshopiscated . Apparently its a lack of education !!
dancing round poles , speaking with a dialect and not having a blackberry soon be decalred institutionally somthing or other .
bill gates new pope for new era , heretics and nay sayers getting pink boiler suites as some are having visons on new promised land .
intellectual sandle wearers dont see problem , see it as oppertunity to re educate like blair .
unconcerned , besides there are other things that people want to discuss as ruin/labour have left such a mess and failing instsitutions , at some point arguments will be made and village rule will be looking at its own end .
Its a bit appologetic in some ways , all part of acknowledgement of village rule failiures in playing dumbers top trumps at lobby dinner parties .
Just waiting for ruin to call vote day and see if its more lies , save friends portfolios and so long suckers with added brain wash and fingers in ears going la la la la . only 60 odd days to go ruin must weep evertime sept 2007 is mentioned !
i think ive cracked spending problem
Where’s TED gone?
So near so far ted
Just found this though might be the same ted
http://www.ted.com/talks/david_cameron.html
I thought i was seeing things,but luckily it’s a mass illusion.
What’s happened to TED? Was just enjoying watching the fluent cameron and comparing him to the wooden gordon TED video from 2009 – and when I come back here , the TED blogs gone!
WOW if only gordon’s deficit could be banished as easily!!
TED’s Dead!
Try http://www.ted.com/talks/david_cameron.html
Politically dead y’mean like gordon??!!
78 days and counting – assuming Broon can’t find a reason to cancel the election under the Civil Contingenies Act of course, maybe Argentina might give him the excuse he needs…?
Nothing would surprise me about this wretched government any more
‘fluent cameron’
jellyfish are extremely fluid
Fluid’s better than wooden.
gordon’s embarrassingly unbending.
He looks increasingly like alastair’s hand puppet!!!
Budget after Budget for 13 years,
“No more Boom and Bust!”
Bye Bye Brown, yur fucked.
Simples!
Please don’t say simples
it makes you sound like a Hunt
Channel 4 are reporting that Hunt lady gaga is the musicians musician.Pay attention dickheads this is a musician http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG7y_CD9rMg
notice the instrument.
Bookmarked, don’t know chap, but impressed. Cheers !
Is that the Spanish guy with the drink problem?
Is that the Spanish guy with the dr*nk problem?
oy dick head your self, ive played guitar for the past 17 years, and even i know that the VOICE is an instrument
hark back to elton john, bowie, even freddie murcury, style and substance
you might not like gaga, but she does what she does fucking well
then fuck off and play the voice F#
Get over yourself with your fucking musical snobbery !
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1251798/Gordon-Brown-suffers-new-blow-business-leaders-including-Richard-Branson-admit-defect-Cameron.html
Oh Dear gordon’s lost the support of his own Business Council for Britain. And Richard Branson, Stuart Rose and other prominent business leaders are now changing sides.
…and they won’t be the last sensible people to do so.
Almost every major business leader and economist now admits we’re completely fucked as a country, and without serious reductions in spending (rather than reductions in the increase of spending!) we will have the IMF knocking on the door in short order.
I’m sure Gordon would be happy to see a Gilt strike in the runup to the election..?
Wonder if he’s going to grasp the nettle and call an election in March?
+sigh+ I bet he’ll hang on until the bitter end on June 3rd always believing the economy and the polls are finally going to turn in his favour !!!
I’d really quite like to be standing in drowning street on the day he finally exits no10 so that I could slow clap him and his scheming PR wife out of the road.
Will it end up being on Friday June 3rd by default, as the Parliament expires due to the lack of inclination from Broon to go to the Palace..?
I suspect Her Maj is not exactly welcoming to gordon – well would you be???
So perhaps like everything else he does – he tries not to go to the Palace if he can help it!!!!
She’s quite happy to sign away her sovereignty on his say so. And Her fortune has been saved thanks to the bail out.
I doubt she’d sign her sovereignty away. If gordon suggested it I think he’d be shown the door.
I suspect he is more tolerated than welcomed at Buck House !!
Well you wouldn’t want him would you??!
“I doubt she’d sign her sovereignty away.”
It may have escaped your notice nell but have you heard of the Lisbon Treaty?
Indeed Granny but don’t despair . I suggest you read Dr Lee Rotherham’s – ‘ Ten Years On – Britain without the European Union’
There’s always hope and evolution!!!
revolution nell my dear
that’s why nell loves her cast iron dave you see
because he tells her things she’s stupid enough to believe
like on Lisbon
and she in turn is so grateful she eagerly dives into the gutter and tries to score party political points off of a disabled child
because she’s scum
So what do you think? nell is a Central Office stooge? Who else? Engineer? Steve Expat?
To ‘The Watcher’
No, and I would be surprised if the Tories have people posting for them on blogs in the same was as Labour do – notice that most of the comments from people friendly to the Tories are positive, whereas most of those friendly to Labour are negative
FWIW I’m not a member of the Conservatives nor any other party. I will probably vote for them both becuase I think DAve has some good ideas and deserves a chance, and in order to kick out this current bunch of incompetent idiots for at least a generation!
To “The Watcher”
Like Steve, I’m not a member of any political party, and never have been. I just care about the country I live in, all my family live in, and have our roots in going back to time out of mind. I hate what’s been done to it over the last decade, and want to see things changed and improved. Of the available options at the GE, either the Tories or UKIP seem the best. Given my utter disgust at the way the EU manages it’s affairs and imposes it’s unwanted will on ours, my heart says UKIP, but the pragmatist in me says that the Tories are the better all round option taking into account such things as the economy, education, business environment and attitude to governance generally.
If they have been advising Brown all this time I’d sack em
The marxists love heavy taxation, it allows them to take with one hand, process via several layers of departments, and then give back with the other hand to their favorite client groups. Some of whom they have just take it from in the first place. NuLabour has stiffled growth, is scaring aways those who will provide employment, and is, in short, turning us into some 5th rate soviet style state. Oh how the handwringers wept when the berlin wall came down……
I need something to do.any suggestions
Mock up a poster for this website?
http://mylabourposter.typepad.com/blog/
Carvery lunch? Roast? All you can eat for £10? Hornless goat curry?
Doh. I was hinting at cleaning the BBC out, or similar.
The Beeb’s absolutely stuffed to the gills with the human veal – a great choice of place to eat in or take away.
I will eat their boiled heads
Lots of multi national companies waking up to the fact they have been taking for a ride by the chinky chongs now they are being bullied for more and more money by China especially American companies.
Looks like the USA V China could be a potential conflict in the future.
…adn China hold most of the aces in this situation, a combination of their holding of $1.5tn in US bonds and currency controls keeping Chinese exports cheap.
The Chinese could seriously weaken the dollar or cause inflation worldwide with very little unwinding of these policies, such is the dominance of their export markets and holding of US dollars.
Amero anyone
Apologies as its a bit off subject but its worth viewing everyone.
Good post
no apologies necessary
Nip over to Old Holborn
havent heard from OH today has he been arrested for breaking the injunction?
all 5 copied and embeded
will start to email urls to friends tomorrow.
viva the internet
Ohhhhhhhhhh yeah the ladies like me.
40 things that have come to pass since….well read the link
http://www.rense.com/general32/americ.htm
maybe about amerika but it covers the UK too, especially number 25 area.
BEAUTIFUL GUIDO, SHAME THEY ARE ALL TOO FREAKIN DUMB TO LISTEN
YOU HAVE MY EAR COUNTRYMAN
Guido’s right there; always stick to the fundamentals otherwise it’s just a question of time before you get found out for being the emperor with no clothes and your system crashes.
Brown’s economic theory seems to simply be:
“Owe more money than you can afford to pay back? Simple; borrow more money. Just keep borrowing more and more until you go bust or until the loan sharks sledgehammer your kneecaps, then kill yourself when it all gets too much and you have no way out.”
What part of that Brown advice/mentality is worth following, finky? Personally I think the libdem idea of “just let people keep more of their own hard-earned cash in the first place” makes more sense than “burn the money….burn it all…mwah-ha-ha-ha-ha”
two bald men fighting over a comb
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Politics/Labour-MP-David-Wright-Apologises-After-Twitter-Message-Brands-Conservatives-Scum-Sucking-Pigs/Article/201002315550105?lpos=Politics_First_Poilitics_Article_Teaser_Regi_3&lid=ARTICLE_15550105_Labour_MP_David_Wright_Apologises_After_Twitter_Message_Brands_Conservatives_Scum-Sucking_Pigs
David Wright the Labour MP for Telford tried to say that people who voted tory were ‘scum sucking pigs’
When he got attacked on Twitter in rather large numbers he tried to LIE his way out and say ‘ he didn’t say that’ Ho Hum!!!
Interesting point – he wants to keep defence spending up in his constituency . He has defence industries there providing employment – so he is a Very Enthusiastic Supporter of War At Any Cost!!!
His spokesman said……………………….
He has learned to tweet but not speak
even my budgie can do that
Fink & Nelson get paid to spout this bollocks? The sooner the dead tree press folds and dies the better.
AlastairC said he defeated John Major at the Election with the LIE that Major tucked his shirt into his underpants.
Andrew Rawnsley is just about to launch a book that is largely regarded as authentic that says gordon sat on in his bed in America , naked, screaming abuse at his aides because they could not get him a one to one with Obama!
I wonder which is the more damaging claim? Alastairs or Rawnleys??!!!
Tsk! Rawnsley!
I often sit naked on the bed and scream abuse. It’s perfectly normal behaviour for a Judge.
Well we’d expect it of you.
But the most important, pertinent question is – ‘Is this acceptable behaviour for the PM of Britain??’
he should have fucked Edwin Currie
Brown naked ? Fucking hell, was he banging the baster over Omaha ?
Would have been better than secretly toying with mandy!!!
DO YOU THINK I’M SEXAY BARACK
Reality surpasses art.
The Emperor has no clothes!!!!
It’s official.
Churchill used to dictate letters sat in bed in his dressing gown sucking on a cigar .
However,Brown isn’t Churchill.
How fucking interesting
Give me five minutes with him.
would have been better than Dave secretly using large rubber toys on Gideon!!!
Stop looking in the mirror
Is that Fink chap a local ? Maybe his family are new to our islands and do not understand our ways.
My own family only arrived from the ice age retreat, ( Galisian Spain ), about 2310 years ago (300 BC for you Christians). About the time your people arrived Guido ??
We settled on the western of the two Islands, where we found that the locals, like the rest of the Britons, very friendly, but very independently minded. They had a whole culture built around their love of individual freedom.
One of my family broke a taboo about personal space and we never saw him again.
It took a very long time before we learned that ‘Freedom’, as they call it, the right to live ones life to ones own plan, is the very basic driving force of all the Britonic peoples. We now conform to that norm.
Maybe this Fink’s family need more time to learn that ‘Financial independance’ is the same as ‘Phyical independance’. It gives you power over your own life. And that’s what we like.
Why do you only notice the miss-spellings after you post.
There has to be a grant, somewhere, that can be claimed to answer this question.
Goodluck to who ever gets it.
Ive done some research and asked schoolchildren some loaded questions in the subject of typos. Now when can expect my grant to come through ?
I like to play hard-to-get, but I must admit to a soft spot for freeloaders and parasites.
OT.
Anyone seen the latest release by MigrationWatch on liebours deliberate mass immigration policy,shocking how these NuLab vipers behave.
Cameron needs to up his game on this immigration issue,he would have a bloody landslide.
Ssssh! Dave knows that. Everybody else knows that. But the Bogey Man’ll get him if he ever does anything about it.
PR maestro (reputedly) Cameron, with the Tories’ bottomless election chest behind him, could blow Brown and his whole gang to Kingdom Come in 24 hours.
Assuming the wet lettuce position seems more his style though.
One of the great mysteries, that.
Look how the Scottish scum are raising their kids;
A study of schoolchildren has found that most of those questioned thought violence towards women was acceptable if there was a reason behind it.
- – -
In another scenario, about 80% of the children said a man had cause to slap his partner because she did not have the dinner ready on time.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/8516387.stm
ye gods neanderthal knuckle draggers are much more evolved
It was not devolution they voted for, it was evolution.
and yet they got rid of Labour before you twats did
says it all
Wait.
Read this bit.
“The findings of the study will be presented at a conference in Glasgow on Wednesday which has been jointly organised between Scottish Women’s Aid and Napier University.
Edinburgh Women’s Aid spokeswoman Suzanne Moran called for more education on violence towards women: “These findings, in effect, reflect that these attitudes are still widely held in Scotland.
“Studies like these reveal that there is still much to be done to eradicate ingrained beliefs that women are to blame for violence perpetrated against them.”
They selected a number of primary schools in Glasgow, (which ones and where; Glasgow is a very diverse city which embraces both extremes of social class), and they asked the primary school children a number of questions.
What were the questions and were they properly neutral?
I think this “survey” started from the result they wanted and worked out the necessary procedures to get it.
It stinks.
And by the way; there is a long standing hatred between Glasgow and Edinburgh.
Why didn’t Edinburgh Women’s Aid do their survey in Edinburgh? Didn’t want to miss a chance at trashing Glasgow, did they?
It stinks even more.
The reason the “Conviction” figures for rape are so so low is because they include the large number of spurious rape claims which nobody dares mention but which are like the elephant in the room whenever this subject is discussed. This does nothing to help the genuine victims.
I have no doubt these would have been loaded questions asked to children in a way that got the answers they wanted. This is what happens when people with an agenda pose as so called “researchers”. More grants all around !!!
There are only 61 million people in the UK.
Look out your window. Look at all that green space. That wasn’t the “Do-Nothing” Conservatives that made that Green Space. They can plant all the trees they like. Only Labour can be trusted with Britiain’s borders.
That’s Labour. Trustworthy and Pro-Active. Not “Do Nothing”.
“Get off my land”
orf and moi
Let’s do a deal. I won’t picnic on your front lawn, leave your side gate open and throw litter in your flower beds, and you won’t trample on my wheat or set your dog on my sheep.
But I am a city dwelling rambler. I have a god given right to wreck your crops and trundle all over your land. Labour said so.
I’ve got a variation on the deal that says “if you don’t let you dog ‘have a bit of fun’ with my sheep, I won’t introduce it to high-speed lead”.
Works every time…
The Green Belt is a Labour achievement, and we intend to build on it.
I can look out of my window and see 500 acres of the best farmland in the country that Prescott has ear marked for rabbit hutches, necessary to house all the immigrants that Labour let in.
We need the land to grow food so that we are not dependent on imports, (particularly as our currency becomes worthless), and we have neither the water nor the infrastructure to support the increased numbers in our city.
That’s Labour. Incompetent Liars, destroying everything they touch.
Dont worry the “rabbit hutches will never be built
because when “call me Dave ” gets in
the tory toff’s will need the land for fox hunting
Quite right too.
And as Moley points out, for the 99.9% of the time that it isn’t being hunted over, it’s growing food.
What’s the point in concreting over large areas of land that are nowhere near centres of available work?
The gov’t have no idea how many people there are in the UK because they have not recorded who leaves the country properly for years
The trouble with Labours “Back Door” Policy Is no one knows how many terrorists have come in with the masses
On the other hand Peter Mandelson is in favour of all back door policies !
There is a better selection of prostitutes thanks to Labours open door policy so for that alone.
I will vote for them.
All those Pole dancers. Cheers Harperson.
A 10,000 tax bottom for people on minimum wage (not sure how many this entails) would make ‘Average Alf ‘around 13 pounds a week better off.
That would buy him a discount 18-pack of Heineken perhaps, or an extra takeaway to accompany the free-to-air football.
I can not see particularly from where such exaggerated amounts of money will suddenly wash into the economy by Alf’s 13 quid extra.
He may, after all spend it on foreign holiday money.
how interesting local councils are refusng to publish the wages of some of their staff as we may get a little upset how nice of them hey
O/T
Councils afraid to publish salaries of those who work for them, in case they are subject to reprisals from the public.
Boo fucking hoo – If you can take a six-figure salary from the State, you have to put up with the shit I’m afraid. My taxes pay your wages.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/7259289/Councils-afraid-to-say-how-much-they-pay-chiefs.html
Publish the job titles, salaries, and numbers of employees at each level.
No names and addresses, no problem.
Councils should be threatened with a council tax strike by ratepayers if they do not comply.
They have, however, bravely conceded to identify all posts paid more than £50,000 p a.
I don’t reckon it’ll take the nutters that they are so scared of too long to put two and two together.
Unless those naughty hackers start rummaging through council websites, redacting office-holders’ names, of course.
Newham is one of the poorest boroughs in the land,yet has the highest paid chief executive in Britain.
The council justify this on the fact that as they are so deprived ,they need the best talent money can buy.
no result there then
They need to publish take home pay for the last financial year, so that all those little allowances are included.
Birmingham City Council managed to pay an electrician £120,000. p.a.
Basic salaries won’t cover it.
Tax Payer’s Alliance please take note.
Local government is relatively frugal, provides actual services and funds its pension schemes in a generally responsible way. Of course there are too many Deputy Heads of Empowerment, Outreach and Interdisciplinary Facilitation, but for serious, multi-billion troughing you have to look at central government, the quangocracy, the NHS and the Beeb.
Hello scum suckers.
Now fuck off all you Tory trolls.
I would have thought that the “Scum Sucking Pigs” in this country are the low life shit that lie in bed all day breeding new labour voters while the rest of us work our fucking arses off to support them in their breeding programme
seems to me that the labour party are so pleased with their success in this
that they too have decided to reward themselves with large amounts of taxpayers cash for doing such a sterling job !
Look at the ED Balls on that !
I wasn’t claiming twenty grand for my belltower, honest ….
I didn’t used to be a Conservative, honest ….
Quack! Quack!
Glub Blub blub!
Is that a pig or a lamb ??
“Fuck off all you Tory trolls.”
..And I thought an “Internet Troll” was somebody who pushed against the consensus, deliberately taking the opposite view?
I’m stumped.
How, in the current climate, can a Tory be described as in the minority? (EVERYBODY hates Gordon Brown!)
I am curious to see just how fucked up our economy can get after another 5 years of this lunacy from a bunch of incompetent extremist idiots. So they get my vote
Belt up.
mmm your missing out nuliebor political opression , that will come with it .
McMong getting pushed around by the Argies and now Israel. Anyone else want a go? Pathetic Nu Liebour scum.
Gordon Brown and ZaNew Labour are scum sucking c/unting pigs.
No one has tinkered with my post.
IMF announces gold sales. No doubt needing cash to bail out PIIGS.
http://the-tap.blogspot.com/2010/02/imf-gold-sales-will-jolt-confidence.html
Soros has doubled his gold and baked bean investments
I can today announce that i have set up a task force that will sail to the South Atlantic in order to safeguard jobs and vital services in the Falklands region.
Skuppered by Rear Admiral Bob “I see no shortages” Ainsworth,the fleet will be led by HMS The Boddinnic Ferry and sails forthwith.
God speed and region No 9 expects every man,or woman,or other to do his,hers,it’s duty.
CON 39%(+1), LAB 30%(-1), LDEM 18% (-1). A poll for the Sun by Baroness Ashton’s hubby.
Calling All Mossad Agents With British Passports (Real or Fake)
We need help in disposing of 647 of the worlds most dangerous and useless bastards on the planet
please come and rid us of these scum sucking pigs !
We will even supply the pillows
Thank You !
Just use oranges instead of pillows…
Ask Nadine.
Too easy. We would just invite them to a free (fatal) lunch. We like a challenge.
The Israeli ambassador was summoned to the foreign office tonight:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article7031297.ece
I hope he was given a round of applause and complimentary bottles of champagne to pass on to Mossad for taking out a highly dangerous man so efficiently.
Anyone else want to negotiate ?
LOL!
This man would make a better leader than Gordo Brown.
Its a shame Marvel comics never created “fiscal incontenence” , sending a gush of money , that he collects from ther peoples wallets , still evil laugh is about right for the real ruin .
You do realise you are a living breathing self-parody don’t you ?
ditto
Indeed he did. California may be perennially short of money at government level but the state has survived the recession far better than the UK.
I never trust economists. They are all in it for themselves.
How about the virtual abolishment of central government?
Could some one remind me what central government actually gives us for all of the wealth it steals from our back pockets, that we could not far more efficiently pay for ourselves?
All of the important things in life are paid for through local taxation, and far too much of that is a wast of time and money.
We now have a system where we are directly charged the going rate for many of the things that once were free. Yet at the same time taxation is forever rising.
The main reason in the past for central government taxation was the financing of WARS, and other excesses of the establishment like for example financing Empire Building. and servicing the debts that all this international corporatism inevitably resulted in. The truth is IT STILL IS TODAY, absolutely NOTHING has in essence changed.
National, and now also European taxation is simply a method by which the establishment get us to finance our own enslavement, and that of other nations.
Deliberately created inflation being the most clever, large and covert tax of them all.
This countries establishment and its Papist co-conspirators International banking system ( The IMF for example ) have used our wealth to deliberately cause hopeless poverty and resultant starvation around the globe for hundreds of years. These chaps are not free-market capitalists, they are just plane old fashioned EVIL beyond rational belief.
Free market capitalism is all fine and dandy in theory. the problem is that the people who have long since controlled the system are murderous psychopaths, on a mission from hell.
For the same reason they will not notably reduce the starting rate of taxation, is the exact same reason that they are not at all interested in bringing any form of useful free market capitalism to any part of the world that they can not utterly dictate to. Or indeed be bothered to formulate or pay for a system to tax virtually all of it back into their own pockets, or multi-national conglomerates.
Poverty in the Third World could have been radically reduced many years ago, simply by lending a few $’s to a 3rd world farmer to buy a new plough, or even a second hand one. They don’t do this, they simply set up murderously corporatist so called charities such as Oxfam, and carry on bribing the poor countries ( with our cash) natural resources out any murderous dictator that comes to hand.
To understand this world of THEIRS all one has to really understand is that COMMUNISM, SOCIALISM and CORPORATIST CAPITALISM were invented and are run by EXACTLY the same very small group of people using ultimately EXACTLY the same system.
Please note the word PEOPLE, not lizards or any other form of reptile.
Got it yet?
does that make your posts irrelevent then ?
you would fucking know with your interminable dull babblings
such breath taking crtique ime impressed
1) Defence
2) Foreign relations
3) Law and order
The slight problem in your theory is that we used to do exactly that to the Africans we used to ship them the finest equipment money could buy and sit around for a year training them how to use it.
We would leave and come back six months later and wonder why they where starving and ask where the equipment is and how come no crops had been planted, followed with the answer that it is all broken and they want a brand new ones.
When we found the tractors they where lying in a back yard with the tyres taken off and covered in some ones washing. The mechanic had got married to a girl in another tribe and just walked out to live in another village. We had nearly a million pounds worth of equipment just sat growing rust.
Seed and spare parts where just sitting in a garage barely touched and that is one example of how we learned pretty quickly not to send Africa brand new equipment.
Will vince please explain how come taking people out of tax , doesnt mean it has to be applied somewhere else ?
If the silly fuckers gave me 20k i`d emigrate
[...] Time for change. A change even Norman Tebbit supports. Where are you Mr Cameron? [...]
Guido,
I would have thought that defending the 60Bn odd barrels of oil down in the South Atlantic would be a good investment toward the UKs recovery?
In the first instance the exploration, processing, transport, refining and distribution could create 1,000s of jobs for UK businesses. A slice of the revenue would pay for the Royal Navy and Falklands defences.
However, in noting the new fashion for New Labour politicians to regard domestic politics as merely a rung on the ladder toward and international, instellar political career, I would not be surprised if Brown and his cronies facing a exit from government (and thus power) in early May, do a deal to hand the Falklands over to Argentina to curry favour with ‘the international community’ and secure themselves cushy jobs.
Of course it would be sold to us in the way that the NI ‘peace’ process was sold or the masterstroke of Blair giving up the EU rebate, ie that the UK will give all in return for some vague assurances which will never materialise and then the world can have yet another laugh at the UK.
Watch Jonah McRuined-us-all use it as an excuse to delay the elections and declare a national emergency….
Remember which party defended the Falklands against the odds in their hour of need:
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/00661/news-graphics-2008-_661518a.jpg
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article7031402.ece
what a surprise
Could we set up a campaign to force the Labour party to repay all the state money that they have used for electioneering?
Guido I rely on you to give piggies at the trough the publicity they deserve so ,might I draw your attention to Glasgow and the Strathclyde passenger transports activities.
You will find that not one but two high heidyins have resigned, to have the words “labour councillor” attached to them seems to be beyond the ability of the media in Scotland – in fact ANYTHING which puts Labour in a BAD spotlight appears to be beyond the media of Scotland this includes that bastion of impartiality the BBBC.
Could the final nail in Gordon Brown’s coffin, before the General Election, be that the Argies whip our arse down in the Falklands?
Some points:
1. For all those who bang on about GDP, if you take out of GDP the amount of “income” that has been financed solely by debt, UK GDP is actually much lower and government expenditure is nearly 100% of real national income. A large part of GDP is represented by public sector payrolls and who is funding those?
2. A rise in the tax threshold to £10K will merely take up some of the slack in the retail sector and most of the value would disappear abroad on imported goods and commodities.
3. The bulk of tax cuts should be aimed at business.
4. I could not believe my eyes seeing David Willetts this morning on TV banging on about the next thing they will “ban” – is he a Tory? We want less law, less banning, less government. Cameron, wake up!
I agree.
The problem is, after 13 wasted years of Labour, the Tories are terrified that demonstrating themselves to be Conservatives will upset everyone and the scum will win again.
Thing is, Michael Howard managed to get more English votes than Blair in 2005 and he was old school Tory. So people were coming round to the idea that perhaps Labour are useless.
Cameron needs to show some backbone and be less of a Blair clone. As it is, I will not vote for him – I have no wish for Blair Mk 2.
Maybe he will surprise us, maybe he’s going to show that he’s a true Conservative once he’s in office. Maybe.
Willetts is a hoon and sounds like he’s from NuLabour. We need much less government.
Indeed…
The sub-blairite drivel from CMD, Willetts, etc is the reason I will not be voting Tory for the first time since the idiot Heath was in charge.
What actually needs to be done fitst off all is to identify all the WASTE.
Cut out all this kowtowing to ethnic minority needs like leaflets in 400 languages in council offices and all the expensive non job diversity fuckwit bollocks that goes with it.
Get out of the European Uman rights thingy
Let the planet burn up in its own sweet time. (about a billion years i think… am I bovvered?)
Stop fighting wars we can win and that no one cares about. Just nuke the fuckers . It takes five minutes.
Get my inidian accountant to audit the government departments and local councils . Guaranteed savings of at least 30 billion.
Billions spent on Raspberry access and shit when they never go anywhere alone anyway. They have “carers” and council lackeys.
Nationalise Gas, Electricity and water. We may as well reap all these huge profits that tnhe private companies are taking. After all it is OUR fucking water. Enough of it drops from the sky.
Get anyone that can function and is unemployed into work within 6 months and get all the “I’ve got a bad backers” working in heavy manual labour.
vote me!!!
‘Nationalise Gas, Electricity and water….’
How old are you? Twelve? Nationalising ANYTHING is a complete and fucking utter disaster – every fucking time!! The pricks running the country can’t run a whelk stall, a piss up in a brewery – just look at the finances of UK plc.
Tell me, please, what qualifications has anyone in this Government got that says they could make a profit at anything other than fiddling bloody expenses.
What they should have done is REGULATE them – properly, not this Ofgas bollocks who seem to stand for big corporatism and not the general public. Actually put on onus on power and water companies to provide a decent service, at a reasonable cost with the threat of enormous fines and possible forced sale of their UK businesses should they fail.
But then, who siad Governments could regulate a whelk stall or a piss up in a brewery? The banking system stands as testimony to politician’s skills.
when i say nationalise i mena run it like a privat eenterprise and as a proper utility to use the profit for reducing cost to the end user. Get the good people to run it and incentivise them. of course keep the politico retards out of it.
now go back to sleep rip
Keen on discussion then, Mr/MrsTube_Thumper? Still don’t get it, do you. They are incapable of running a bath, let alone a private enterprise for profit.
Just my opinion, though. Feel free to disagree.
Someone has loaded the whole of the election night coverage of April 1992 onto youtube. It is very funny to see Labour’s disappointment at losing their 4th election in a row when they thought it was in the bag. Hopefully there will be similar tears from Labour in May.
There was a truly horrific and graceless concession speech from Neil Pillock. Actually, he never congratulated the Conservatives on winning or for running a fair campaign. He just wallowed in self-pity and looked forward to a time when Labour could railroad through their agenda. We all know where that ended up. It is a bit rich someone who would go and work in Brussells accusing the Tories of centralising power.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2VIiTwmrww&feature=related
Nicholas Winterton on R5 at the mo – unbelievable – find it on iplayer – classic
http://www.bristol.gov.uk/ccm/cms-service/download/asset/?asset_id=6517011
This is the kind of WASTE fuckwit shit we need to get rid of. Where are fascist firing squads when you need them? They do it for fun and free of charge.
You couldn’t make it up, could you ?
Right down to the needless detail of “high ceilings distort sound”.
Guess the fuckwits who designed places like St. Pauls and the Albert Hall just didn’t have a clue compared to the place that gave us luminaries like Wedgie Benn and “Red Dawn” Primarolo.
The Albert Hall had to have work done to fix the echo. So they didn’t always get it right.
What was on page 19??
Good analysis Guido – and history proves that when tax rates are reduced (within reason) the tax take goes up.
The problem for the Tories is that 75+% of the electorate won’t buy into this argument being a tad too complex for the majority to grasp.
I can just see Brown on TV now (giveaways to the rich – schools and hospitals closing) and little George trying to explain this to Humphreys and Paxman.
banking crisis made easy……Gordon buys a donkey from a farmer for £100. He agrees delivery the next day. Overnight the donkey dies. Farmer tells gord he now owns a dead donkey.”Thats ok, ill have my money back!” says gordon. Farmer explains he,s already spent the money. “Bring it anyway, i will raffle it.”Says gord. “You cant do that!! its fraud!” Says the farmer. Gordon replies,he just wont tell them the donkey is dead. A month later farmer meets gordon and asks how he got on. Gordon explains he sold 500 tickets at £2 a piece, making a profit of £898. Famer asks “didnt anyone complain?” “No,” says gord. “Only the bloke who won ,so i gave him his £2 back .”
i have written to bristol council with some feedback to their “fair comment” section. even that sounds crap doesnt it?
http://www.bristol.gov.uk/ccm/cms-service/download/asset/?asset_id=6517011
Can you tell me why you are wasting so much money not only on pointless drivel like this but on most of the suggestions within.
All this kowtowing mollycoddling crap is making the sections of the community fully dependant on “services of diversity”. Cant you see that it encourages users to take advantage of this over correctness. You numb nuts get on with the job of local government not all this twattiash rubbish. How many raspberries come to your poxy meetings. Why should we pay for “herbal tea” let em bring their own. why are we paying expenses for disableds. This is discrimination.
You idiots follow your own adgenda ignore the majority and it is noted you fuckwits. Just look at the sections below.
its seem to be only you so called equalitists that needs to know all that shit. so what if i was a disabled , black/chinese lesbian poof. who fucking cares!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’m delighted that you are a late convert to fiscal stimulus.
Yet another eye-wateringly large crock of shit to add to the already mountainous pile.
“The state of the UK’s public finances deteriorated further in January, according to official figures.
The Office of National Statistics said the government borrowed a further £4.3bn last month – much more than expected.
Analysts had expected the government to repay about £2.8bn of its debts, but tax income for the month was lower than forecast.”
Government spending also rose sharply, the ONS said.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8521587.stm
I think I’ll take the dog out for a walk.
Have you imposed a news blackout this morning Guido? That’s funny, so have most other blogs. I expect that’s because you’re all cowards.
vote labour
What sort of a freak are you?!346/347?
I’ve visited Gofourth and find that on the home page John Prescott refers to “rebuttlals”. Whatever can he mean?
He’s still obsessed with pies.
It’s easy to forget what Britain was like under Thatcher and the last Tory government.
Unemployment reaching 3.5 million, interest rates of 14%, schools and hospitals falling apart after years of neglect, “no such thing as society”, the homophobic Section 28, pensioners freezing in their homes, the manufacturing industries destroyed, the disastrous “Back to Basics” campaign, Cash for Questions, Jeffrey Archer, Jonathan Aitken, David Mellor, and the infamous Poll Tax.
But thanks to New Labour, we now have the winter fuel allowance, the shortest waiting times in history, crime down by a third, the creation of SureStart, the cancer guarantee, record results in schools, more students than ever, the Disability Discrimination Act, devolution, civil partnerships, peace in Northern Ireland, the social chapter, half a million children out of poverty, maternity pay, paternity leave, child benefit at record levels, the minimum wage, the ban on cluster bombs, the cancelling of debt, the trebling of aid, the first-ever Climate Change Act.
Labour hasn’t got everything right. But without doubt Britain is more prosperous, richer, safer, freer and more vibrant than it was in 1997.
Don’t let the Tories back in to wreck it.
You can probably get treatment for
a serious brain injury.
i insist the ruin goes canvassing personally with this line , so that we can all gaugue the public reaction to wheres all the money gone .
you are right lets vote gordon then shall we? hahaha fuckwith. nick griffin is the best option should keep everyone (well the majority just about still) amused
No doubting the good intent in every one of the initiatives you mention in your second paragraph. And every one crassly implemented. Let me take them in turn:
Yep, even to those that do not need it living abroad; no we don’t; crime is actually up if you count real statistics and not those manipulated to fit a political agenda; Surestart has not been cost-effective or well managed; an untested promise; record downward trend in academic ability is noted by industry and commerce; too many students and reducing financial support will continue this downward trend; now so much legislation regarding employment that employers are now over-burdoned with cost and, in small companies, frightened to grow and employ; devolution in Wales has been a costly, non productive exercise thus far; civil partnerships? now there is a success, but who cares; almost peace in NI, but never a guarantee without continued effort from all parties; social chapter, yep, that will more cost on business then; no there are not; wonderful, for those in the civil service, for private enterprise this has had the effect of preventing employment of those the legislation was designed to help; over-complicated, costly benefit systems, why not just tax less? Many in need just do not receive the help they could provide for themselves; the problem with the minimum wage is that everybody pays it. This has driven down wages, ironically;yep, good one, except that not every nation plays by the rules; yep, wonder who will cancel ours? most of it funneling its way back to the labour party via fake charities; oh, and yes, climate change. Long since been a method to raise taxation revenue and now, finally discredited as same.
Oh, and your third paragraph. it is not, is not, is not and is not.
It’s easy to forget what it was like before Mrs Thatcher.
Rubbish piled high in the streets, enormous government debt, strikes everywhere, government held ransom to the unions and industry going abroad because of continual industrial action and high taxes.
It took years to get it right and now we have the same thing all over again. Except there are now more million pound Quangos, councils with overpaid managers, incompetent economic management to the extent they can’t even control MP’s fiddling their expenses and the country is further in debt than after two world wars. Millions of people on the sick or on the dole that haven’t worked for years, more single mothers than ever, our cities over run with uncontrolled immigrants and crime. All the gold sold at rock bottom price and more civil servants staring at computer screens rather than contributing to the economy.
Yes, Labour have been excellent at spending my money, my children’s money and my grandchildren’s money for decades to come. As for global warming, you lot really are off your trolley. What part of global warming is contributing to the snow outside my window?
Vote Labour for five more years of Apocalypse Brown? NOT very likely Go and bury your head, or bang it on the wall if you want but thank heavens most people have seen the light and will vote for common sense & Cameron.
Methinks number 347 is copying and pasting. His post before this one was made only a minute before.
Yep. Snowing heavily in the Vale of Glamorgan too. We really must pay more green taxes. That will stop it.
Its not at all easy to forget that the lefties are full of self-serving, ahistorical cliches
and pretentious, meaningless words like “vibrant”. I am however impressed
that you didn’t use the even more bland “progressive”. Well done.
The Eighties were great my family were released from the tyranny of the state for a while, worked hard and made a lot of money.
The last 13 years have been appalling:
is 347 using our money, taxpayers money, to spout this shit?
rather like Harman on her little trips….
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article7031402.ece
they really don’t get it do they
Oh dear, spotty young Labour blogdrone. You know, that little list you were told to put out sounds wonderful. If only it wasn’t so full of lies.
Under this Government pensions and savings have been trashed, the minimum wage is rendered impotent from mass immigration strengthening the black economy and keeping workers poor, health and education are purely focused on targets and not on the citizens they are supposed to serve – don’t try the waiting lists are short bollocks, you know it’s statistical manoeuvring and nothing more – schools targets are continually manipulated to save face for the Minister concerned, University funding is being slashed, students are more in debt after graduating than ever before, peace in Northern Ireland was brokered by John Major, NOT Tony Blair, international aid is a wholesale mess, and promises to end child poverty in this country have been repeatedly broken.
I’ll reserve special mention for your two most pathetic comments. First, let’s discuss manufacturing in the UK, because that is one of the biggest lies the Labour Party continues to peddle. Manufacturing under The Thatcher Government fell 3%. That’s not good, in fact I’m the first to say it’s not acceptable to see any decline in this sector at all. So what happened after 1997? Under Blair and Brown it has DROPPED THROUGH THE FLOOR from 20% to just 12%. This Government has destroyed manufacturing in the UK. Kindly stop repeating a load of bollocks you read in a text book stupid boy.
Secondly, the utterly laughable insinuation that somehow this Government is honest. You really shouldn’t talk about the likes of Archer unless you are prepared to discuss the long-long queue of Labour Ministers and advisors all caught with their hands in the till, or their trousers round their ankles, or their fingerprints on the poison. Step forward Draper, McBride, Devine, Morley, Chaytor, Blears, Butler, Scotland, McNulty, Cohen, Najib, Cartwright, Griffiths, Bryant, plus various no-dom peers who funded this truly spiteful Labour Government for their own ends. How about Ecclestone’s little gift to the Labour Party, Blunkett and his fast tracking of passports, the manipulation of Government ministers by lobbyists, and of course the continually unanswered questions surrounding Mandleson and his excursions to chat with Russian oligarchs and Middle-east despots?
You’re just another denier. Go back under your stone.
I’ve lost TED, heart broken, whatever happened to TED?
http://www.ted.com/talks/david_cameron.html
Thanks, what a relief, thought he’d done a bunk!
………and now for some good news
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/7262866/Britain-posts-first-deficit-for-January-since-records-began.html
well done gordon and all who sail in you
And in the Guardian –
Sharp rise in government spending and drop in tax receipts means Britain borrowed another £4.3bn last month rather than repaying £2.8bn as economists expected
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/feb/18/uk-government-borrowing-january-record?CMP=AFCYAH
How much of a mess are we really in? God alone knows what will be found when an audit is done by the next govt.
Might be interesting Barack Obama made speech that USA has stronger than expected growth figures and that there is now no chance of double dip in USA . CW was amused at confident nature of it , and doesnt see why USA cannot improve . However someone then went onto point out that they have a massive debt , so perhaps second dip has been filled by borrowings , which opposition have pointed out has had no effect and may have done damage .
looks familiar doesnt it !
Looks like he has been listening to Jonah.
Obama is about as clueless as Brown. But he’s ‘nice’!
The US is in as big a mess as the UK – x5. The only adviser he has who is on the side of the people in his whole administration is Paul Volcker – and Obama won’t take any notice of what he says ‘cos it’ll cause pain. But when you’re ill, you’ve simply got to take the medicine. If you don’t, you’ll die.
And the US is on the way to an early grave. Not long after the UK.
Politics aside, it’s a far better stimulus to cut top tax rates.
Politics aside, it’s a far better stimulus to cut ALL tax rates.
Darling,start earning your salary.Should you fail in your paid duty,God help you and your property portfolio.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8521587.stm
guess how many medals awarded at the olympics so far.
1250 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
what the fuck for?
apart from the downhill and jump and mainstream what else are they chcuking medals about for.
best fall over
sliding down a slope on a tea tray
making a slide on the pavement
making piss icicles
eskimo baiting – innit you innuit?
BBC expense troughing.
The Georgian took gold for Yogic flying.
The BBC has sent 74 fully expensed and well paid staff to Vancouver to cover the Winter Olympics.
Team GB has sent 52 competitors. Most, if not all of these will have struggled with funding for training, equipment, travel, accommodation etc.
The BBC. Taking the piss out of the taxpayer. Its what we do.
Nicholas Winterton made a right twat of himself on Radio 5(you have to take a listen Guido) but the BBC have now turned it into a typical anti Tory attack.
Not a single mention of Labour sleaze over expenses, just the “typical Tories” nonsense.
BBC = Labour’s propaganda unit.
Britain publishes first January budget deficit since records began as government spending rose and tax receipts fell sharply. ONS said that government spending had exceeded its income by 4.3 billion pounds. What an example of total financial mismanagement. ” No more return to boom and bust”. Brown is to economics what Hitler was to world peace and Shipman was to medicine. He is a total retard in every aspect of his professional and personal life.
Brown and Darling should be paupered as an example to future ministers.
Do you think they are muddying the waters ready for dave?, or is that crediting them with too much intelligence.
You could be forgiven for thinking that such spectacular mismanagement was intentional, but no, I think they really are just clueless.
Can you remember a time when millions used to be a big deal not billions.
The KKKonservatives have always been the most dangerous enemies of social and economic progress.
What right does Cameron have to lecture us on the economy? Wan’t he Norman Lamont’s advisor on Black Wednesday?
What right does Brown have on lecturing anyone about finances? He’s wrecked the economic outlook of this country to a depth unmatched by any other Chancellor or Prime Minster in history.
And how much are you being paid by your ZanuLiebore bosses to write such bilge on here?
If I remember correctly, the cost of defending the pound to stay in the ERM was about £3bn at the end of the day.
That equates to 6, yes 6, days of the cost of running the financial disaster called the Labour Party running the UK economy. And I’m not including the cost of the prick in charge selling half the UK’s gold reserves at $250 an ounce in 2001. What’s the price now – $1,105?
I’m so glad the UK has Gordon as it’s financial adviser.
Do we know if he has any plans to holiday in dubai this year? Fake passports anyone?
Have pillow, will travel.
Will he have to go through the body scanner? Ugh, poor scanner operator!!
Nazilabour has bankrupted the country everytime it has taken power, polls show CON lead, The public have seen through you, give up, last roll of the dice, do not pass go, do not collect 200.
SOCIALISM IS SHIT
NAZI LABOUR STARTING ILLEGAL WARS, LIKE HITLER IN GERMANY, THEY WHERE BOTH SOCIALISTS DON’T YOU KNOW.
GAY GORDON HAS SHAFTED ME, HE HAS TAKEN MY PANTS DOWN AND LICKED MY ARSEHOLE WHILE SAYING” I’VE TAKEN YOUR PENSION AWAY”, THEN HE HAS STUCK HIS FINGERS UP THERE AND POKED ABOUT WHILE SAYING ”I HAVE MADE YOUR SAVINGS WORTHLESS” THEN HE HAS TOOK HIS COCK OUT AND PUT IT UP MY ARSE WHILE SAYING ” I HAVE FLOODED YOUR COUNTRY WITH IMMIGRANTS”
I AM A BRITISH TAX PAYER AND I HAVE BEEN RAPED.
[...] office, what would happen? It would, erm, destabilise the economy, wouldn’t it.” Guido responded: “bond traders understand that a growing economy supports their coupon payments, [...]
You’re falling into the ‘unfunded tax cut’ trap nonsense Guido.
“That would be £100 £20 billion injected into the real economy …”.
No, it is not money injected into the economy. It is money not sucked out of it by New Labour.
We have to make sure, on every occasion, that people are exposed to one of the the key central lies of New Labour, that tax cuts cost money.
No they don’t. Tax cuts save money.
By phrasing the argument as you have you implicity accept that all wealth is for the State to spend as it wishes. The State merely allows us to keep some of it back.
This is central to New Labour. Our money is their money to do with as they wish.
No. It. Bloody. Well. Is. Not.
Finklestein is ALWAYS been wrong about almost EVERYHING.
Ask him to dig out his notes on the lack of impact in the UK of political blogging (after Rathergate) in 2004. He said UK newspapers would never miss out on a story so there would never be room for American style bloggers. It looked like BS then.
In 1997, he was one of the twats talking up the Tories chances. Didn’t he join the Tories just as they dived?
He is useful: everything he says is either wrong, so back whatever side he dismisses as hopeless. A sort of Gordon Brown curse in fact.
Let’s not forget the real elephant in the room. Long term interest rates are rising; this will hit any recovery hard. The Greek problem started in the same way and then really took off. we are next.
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