February 10th, 2010

Speaker Suspends Payments to Theft Charged MPs

Some sense seems to be prevailing over the theft charged Labour MPs.   Labour say they have (belatedly) withdrawn the whip from them. About time…

Speaker Bercow has ordered that resettlement grants of up to £64,000 to the three MPs, who are standing down at the election, would be suspended until the Court has reached a verdict. Writing to Malcolm Jack, the Commons accounting officer, Bercow said:

“I instruct you to suspend any payments which would otherwise be due … in any case where criminal proceedings are brought in relation to any claim for expenses until the criminal proceedings have been finally disposed of.”

Guido would go further and take away not only their resettlement grant but their pensions as well.


90 Comments

  1. 1
    Fed up Voter says:

    More lies From Mandelson claiming he was against the Kraft takeover of Cadbury’s. The BBC lapping it up of course.

    • 4
      GH says:

      Mandelson knew that Kraft would close the Cadbury’s factory at Keynsham within weeks of taking over the company. Does he think we are all stupid enough to fall for his crocodile tears?

    • 13
      Eddie says:

      Mandelson backed Kraft and knew they would close Keynsham. He’s now trying to rewrite history.

    • 14
      Cadbury technical dept. says:

      BBC are fudge packers.

      • 54
        Max the Impaler says:

        Unfortunately no one in their right mind would choose the Uk as a manufacturing base.High energy costs (80% fuel tax),Health and Safety Stasi,Compliance legislation,high labour cost and on it goes…what ever the government say, or the EU take your pick, this is not a business friendly country.It was obvious that as soon as an American conglomerate got hold of Cadbury things were going to change and change dramaticaly.The continual devaluation of sterling is only a very short term solution, and in the case of Cadbury with sugar, cocao and distribution major cost factors, the sums are not going to add up.

        • 57
          Kraft says:

          You can have the buildings. make a museum out of them, your good at that

          • Max the Impaler says:

            You must have seen the projections in the report.It worked for Burton on Trent,Coors..a good old fashioned Burton name, have a lovely museum; used to be called Bass.Now you have to tour the whole f****ing Midlands to find a decent pint.

          • Gordon Brown says:

            I bought shares in Kraft,by proxy of course.

          • Pig Sick says:

            Star exibits—-A set of overalls and a wage packet

        • 71
          Mark Mywords says:

          Spot on Max – the UK will / has become a PC screen based economy and will / should / must (?) compete with the Indian-like call centre-like economies
          .
          Get used to being a third-world like country
          .
          OR – back the Banks – NOW! – It’s our only chance !!!

  2. 2
    Gordon Brown says:

    Your comments have been noted Guido.

    Yours in the struggle

    Gordon

  3. 3
    David Cameron says:

    FOR SALE:

    Re-advertisd due to time waster.

    Toyota Prius on “59″ plate.

    3000 miles, full service history, one careful owner, nippy little motor that can stop on a sixpence.

    £00.50p ONO.

    • 9
      Professor Jones says:

      Will throw in the global warming bumper stickers?

    • 63
      Anonymous says:

      The car in front is a Toyota – that’s because the accelerator’s stuck and the brakes have failed. The car in front is a Toyota – when the car behind is a Toyota is when you need to worry. Boom Boom!

  4. 5
    Peter Grimes says:

    If you can’t take the punishment, don’t commit the crime!

    If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear!

    Tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime!

  5. 6
    Fees Office Clerk says:

    Ben Bradshaw overdoes “outrage” on Daily Politics at new Tory Poster

  6. 7
    • 21
      PJ says:

      There’s no thread on it because Guido is part of the globalist, open-borders movement to change this country beyond all recognition and turn it into a third-world shithole.

      The Frankfurt School is alive and well and running the show.

    • 74
      Mark Mywords says:

      To discuss this subject sensibly with a considered blog – Guido would have to work harder – and get his facts right – this is the problem with a ‘smash and run’ blog and shows the benefits of having the support of an infra-structure like that of a big named newspaper –

      Guido knows he can’t compete – not on this subject –
      .
      Gradually but gradually Guido is becoming part of the media elite and we should expect a number of compromises or as in this case – a declaration of non-interest
      .
      But don’t worry – there will another Guido coming along soon who will take on such issues! – Life’s easier that way!
      .
      What do think Guido?

      Best wishes

  7. 10
    Joey Joe Joe says:

    Overheard at No10:
    “But Prime Minister, as I keep telling you, we can’t cancel this election like we did in 2007. That would be illegal. We have to hold an election by June at the latest. It’s mandatory. Prime Minister, please don’t punch the secretary and throw her out of her chair. She could sue us. And please don’t throw the fax machine at me. That’s not going to help matters. You still have to fight the election.”

    • 75
      Prime Minister Gordon Brown says:

      No problem – I’ve still got the option of initiating a nationwide Foot & Mouth (FMD) disease outbreak – I will decide to use it at the right time!

      My plan includes the spread of FMD to all rural Conservative constituencies

      EZ PC

  8. 11
    I B Seldom-Lucid says:

    No, you are wrong Guido and so is the Speaker.

    The rule of law must prevail. Let them be tried and, if guilty, punished, in accordance with the law. To withhold pension would be a second punishment and outside the law.

    Indeed they could easily argue that suspension of due payments is an illegal fine and that might jeopardise a legal action. But the speaker would not possibly want to bugger the legal process in order to get the hoons off their charges, would he?

    • 20
      I didnae ken it was wrong / I was told to do it / It was me nae bother says:

      what would happen though if hyperthetically speaking you worked in a large faceles organisation, stole money / falsified accounts / were stupid and following a needlessly expensive trial were convicted. would you be able to keep your company pension?

    • 27
      Stepney says:

      Fuck ‘em

      We employ them. We make the rules.

      Remember?

    • 28
      Anonymous says:

      Erm, howabout reading the fucking story? Removing the pensions would be against the law – but there is nothing stoping squeaker from blocking resettlement grants wh ich are entirely different from pensions

    • 49
      D L George says:

      It’s what happens to Police if they break the law. This lot of disingenuous b*stards changed the rules fast enough when it came out the Attourney General had been claiming London expenses when She stayed in Her multi million pound London mansion. It took them less than a day to State London Allowance could be claimed by ALL Lords and backdated it by several years.

      Truth is they can do what the hell they want. If the law keepers lose their wages and their pensions for committing a crime, so should the law makers.

      • 79
        Talwin says:

        Cops don’t normally lose their pensions. Main reason being they pay in eleven & a half percent of their salary.

  9. 12
    NuAttack Dog says:

    Hang the lot of them

  10. 15
    Beware of Politicians says:

    Re-settlement grants, what the feck are they for!

    Why should any MP get them, an ordinary employee would expect to leave employ and find another job if they resign which is what the MPs are doing after a 5 year contract.

    Haven’t the hoons taken enough money from the long-suffering taxpayer as it is with their expenses as well as a well paid salary!!

    A plague on them all!

    • 24
      ShoutsAtTVwhenGordo'sOn says:

      Heheh.. Seems like we were penning the same thoughts at the same time.

    • 25
      I didnae ken it was wrong / I was told to do it / It was me nae bother says:

      do they get a re-settlement grant and keep the second home?

      • 35
        ShoutsAtTVwhenGordo'sOn says:

        ..I think they do, don’t they? (Just don’t get their interest paid for them any more.)

        The weak lie they always fielded in the face of such questioning was, “Well, you know, for the QUALITY of people we have in the Houses of Parliament, this is a small price for the Tax Payer to pay..”

        Really?.. These are the BEST people?.. These useless, sorry lot?.. If these are the best, I think we could have a massive cut in expenditure without noticing any loss of quality.

  11. 18
    ShoutsAtTVwhenGordo'sOn says:

    Guido’s suggestion seems entirely reasonable – so it’ll be precisely the last thing that happens.

    Anyhow, the Resettlement Grant is a total nonsense – in the private sector, if one works as a Contractor (on 3-month contracts) and eventually one’s contract isn’t renewed, one doesn’t get a ‘eiderdown’ cushion of cash, simply for having turned up..

  12. 26
    chocolotis says:

    Mandeslon is a cock

    I bet he buys presents from the mototrway service station

    • 40
      Sir William Waad says:

      I know. He keeps bringing me road atlases, Haribo sweets and canvas chairs. It’s embarrassing. The under-gardener’s bothy is full of them. I daren’t throw them away for fear of upsetting him – he can be so sensitive. “Willy” he says, “you don’t think I’m manipulative, do you? I think I would kill myself if you said you did.”

      • 55
        Just passing says:

        Just tell him he is a manipulative, lying, disgusting cun’t and you’ll kill him yourself with a garden rake.

        • 61
          Cato Street Conspirator says:

          Mandelson will one day be seen as a ‘national treasure’. In much the same way as Norman St John Stevarse and Jeremy Thrope were in their time.

  13. 29
    Fees Office Clerk says:

    Bercow: “I instruct you to suspend any payments which would otherwise be due … in any case where criminal proceedings are brought in relation to any claim for expenses until the criminal proceedings have been finally disposed of.”

    And the outcome is what?

    The MPs are found not guilty and the payments are made to them immediately?

    or

    The MPs are found guilty and the payments are made to them when they come out of prison?

  14. 30
    Sir William Waad says:

    Can we get this straight, please? In the opinion of this blog and its posters Speaker Bercow is:

    (a) A jumped-up little Labour lapdog with a flair for publicity and a nympho wife; or

    (b) A fearless defender of Parilamentary standards who has ensured that Legg has been able to work un-nobbled?

  15. 32
    Expect a poor PMQ's for Cameron says:

    Be afraid – very afraid.

    With blubber Campbell in the saddle,I expect Brown to come out with even more crap at PMQ’s and for his Labour nonentities to ask the most unbelievable non-questions.

    Two Labour people on Daily Politics now – where’s the Tory?

    This is not looking good.

  16. 36
    the gurning one eyed son of the manse says:

    All injured soldiers to have two votes in the election for them to show how much they love him.

  17. 37
    Out with the birdies says:

    Priceless – Shirley Williams calls Andrew Neil ; “Neil”

    And she was Education Secretary in Callaghan’s glorious 1979 govt.

    As for Bradshaw – blunt.saw.neck.cut

    • 72
      Jan says:

      Shirley Williams was a f………g hypocrite when she withdrew her daughter from Godolphin Latymer school when it became independent,instead of sending her to the local grotty secondary mod in her neighborhood sent her to a school miles away in trendy Hampstead. She made a big song and dance about withdrawing her from Godolphin Latymer. She disgusts me.

      • 88
        Anonymous says:

        Shirley Williams is a national treaure. She is honest and straightforward, and a brilliant public servant. From an elite background? Yes. But she has always told the truth to the people. She was willing to be sacked by the PM over Europe, for example. Perfect? No. Nearly perfect compared to the lot in the Commons today? Hell yes.

  18. 39
    Fed up Voter says:

    Shirley Williams what a fecking mess. She’s the female Vince Cable, she’s got Alzheimers, she forgets what she said 5 minutes ago.

    • 59
      Cato Street Conspirator says:

      Shirley Williams and the SDP were funded by the CIA. Obviously the waterboarding practice got to her in the end.

    • 89
      Anonymous says:

      Not true. At nearly 80 years old, Shirley Williams is still sharp as a tack. Extremely current, tackling with vigor and depth complex matters such as nuclear nonproliferation negotiations and failed banking practices with dexterity and intelligence. Has she made mistakes? Mis-speaks? Of course — but she’s always in the media. And she’s humble and readily admits shortcomings. How refreshing! Considering most ill-mannered people aren’t qualified to fetch her a cup a tea!

  19. 50

    I can’t understand how Shahid Malik has got away with this. He should be in the dock as well:

    http://www.panscourer.com/2010/02/09/shahid-mailk-more-front-than-blackpool/

  20. 53
    Edward Devoy says:

    I totally agree with Guido on the pensions issue, but would just like to know whats happening with the rest of them, there is something totally wrong here in that 3 or 4 are being charged when it should be 3 or4 maybe not being charged.
    We could get rid of them all and charge them all if we demand “True Democracy in the UK” and vote only for those who promise it. check it out at http://www.gopetition.com

  21. 56
    Sir Everard Digby says:

    But what about the bigger theft? Forget the small fry:

    We are liable under Article 122 of the Lisbon Treaty for bailing out eurozone countries in difficulties. We are also bound by the terms of the Stabilisation agreement.

    Article 121 of Lisbon was activated this week, and the EU is taking control of Greece’e economic government.

    On Thursday there is a meeting at which Article 122 will be activated requiring Britain to come up with maybe £10 billion, and that’s just for Greece.

    So-Europe can now help itself to our money. Has Broon added this little lot into his spending plans? Did his mighty intellect miss this small point in the treaty? and the Lib Dems too?

    Thieving bastards

  22. 58
    Cato Street Conspirator says:

    Certainly take away their pensions if they are convicted – I assumed that would be done anyway. At least, I bloody hope so.

  23. 60
    Ruth Kelly's plaything says:

    Withhold their terminal bonuses? Not a chance.

    Pure grandstanding designed to ‘look tough’, with zero basis in employment law.

    What about Baroness Uddin, she of the unoccupied Maidstone main residence (allegedly), comprising an empty flat over a newsagent’s shop? Or does the right ethnicity get immunity (see Lord Ahmed, imprisoned for 12 weeks and let out after 12 days ‘because of the importance of his work in the community’)?

  24. 68
    nick says:

    The key word here is ‘suspend’ .
    That’s a long way from ‘You can go fuck yourselves if you think you’re going to get resettlement money’.

  25. 83
    penwen says:

    instead of paying them resettlement fees and pensions. When/OR IF, found guilty, they should be ordered by the court to pay every thieving penny back.

  26. 84
    Sorted says:

    Do you know why Liebor pay the benefit scroungers? They won’t work for them. They know what lieing bastards they are. They are also the ones who would be out rioting if they don’t get their weed and cans,and Liebor know it.So be like them.Liebor won’t get tax.no tax= no slush = no Liebor.

  27. 87
    final salary civil service pensioner says:

    I was sorry to see that Speaker Bercow has instructed the accounting officer to stop payments as it likely means that no other sitting MP’s will be charged with criminal offences.

    So only 0.5% of MP’s are likely to be criminal??




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