Chilcot : the Finale
This is the big day for the chattering classes. Today at the Chilcot Inquiry the unreconciled anti-war left hopes Blair will trip up and effectively confess to war crimes, the commentariat are looking for closure – “the questions Blair must answer”, Hampstead and Islington intellectuals are looking for new material for after-dinner arguments. Cameroons will look on misty-eyed as the maestro shows how it is done. There will be something for everyone today. In the end, after six hours of testimony, Guido reckons Blair will walk away with his reputation unchanged. No one will change their mind as a result of Blair’s testimony today. Nevertheless for the political classes today is the super-bowl of political self-justification.
I see an Oscar awarding performance coming up
Do they pass around the popcorn?
Cherie always got on very well with Brown. They were really best of friends. Gordon always appreciated the attention of fag hags.
you do talk some absolute shit sometimes Guido
You seriously trying to imply it was only the “chattering classes” or “Hampstead and Islington intellectuals” who thought the Iraq War was one of the most stupid ideas in decades or that most of the British public didn’t know Blair was a Liar and Bush was an idiot ?
Funny how my little shadow follows me around.
Not got quite the impact, has it dipstick?
Guido the warmonger is only trying to cover his own backside.
Butt plug. No-one here give a fuck what you say let alone be bothered to ‘follow you around’.
You’re a nobody with delusions of grandeur.
Now that thick as thieves guy, he was the real deal.
He had dozens of trolls following him around.
And he defeated them all and left victorious.
Good to see you’re still whining constantly like a little pussy
Mr Buttplug
Doesn’t sound like you’re ‘bovvered’ does it ?
Twat
OK I have stopped watching now. I was going to smash my PC.
I had quite forgotten how violently I hated listening to that lying, deceitful sack of shit.
How the hell was anybody, taken in by this blatantly lying criminal, ever?
People say, “I voted for Blair, but now I won’t vote labour anymore.” How the hell were any of you Blair voters ever taken in by that lying sack of shit? He is not coming across as even remotely believable, and he never ever has.
How come I could always see through his bullshit, but the media and a sizeable minority of the people of Britain couldn’t? I don’t get it. There is not an honest, or sincere pore on his body anywhere. How the fuck can anyone believe him, at all?
He is a lying sack of shit and that is all he is.
Blair sounds like a cross between Thatcher and Hitler.
Telegraph are running a lie detector as Blair speaks
What has happened to our politicians?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/7072427/Watch-Tony-Blair-live-at-Iraq-war-inquiry.html
While we are on the subject of lying sacks of shit, check out this crossdressing Nazi weirdo! Lol!
http://bastardoldholborn.blogspot.com/
Ah, the old anti-semite chestnut.
Funny how similar the Nazis and Zionists are.
And yet the Zionists accuse anybody who highlights the Zionists war crimes against and genocide of the Palestinians as Nazis who carried out the Holocaust of Jewish people.
Takes one to know one!
Was she high ? On what ?
Yeah and what Old Arseburn? Is this a fucking you tube sharing forum? If I fucking want to look at you tube videos I’ll go to fucking you tube. Gimp.
Anyway, fancy some business?
Is this the sequel to the Blair Witch Project
A butt plug and some anal beads throwing a hissy-fit. Classic. Only on order-order.com!
We all thought Sadam had WMD
There was unfinished business from the invasion of Kuwait
Blair promised Bush that he would stand alongside him, as long as Bush took the UN route.
Both the US and UK populations were bombaqrded with anti saddam propaganda.
OK so far.
Alastair Campbell got carried away and started sexing up dossiers. The good Dr Kelly eventually met his death as a result.
The attorney general a good friend of blair said that the vague UN resolution made an invassion legal.
The official opposition agreed with Blair and voted so.
The invasion was quite straight forward, the Iraqis put up little fight and very few allied troops killed.
There were no WMD, there were no plans of what to do after the invasion, there was civil war in Iraq and the whole thing became a bloodbath.
What is the point of this Inquisition? It will not change the facts.
It’s the facts that demand Justice for between 100,000 and 1 million innocent deaths. Or aren’t you bothered?
what they did to the Iraqis, they are quite capable of doing to us. Unless we stop them. Got it yet?
I sincerely hope you have your tinfoil hat on, Old Cockburn.
I’m bothered. In as far as this, and other so-called “inquiries” have been answered with lies, cover-ups, and blatant spin.
If this “inquiry” had any teeth it would be able to subpoena witnesses, to collect evidence, to have witnesses swear an oath; an oath if broken to be punished by the crime of perjury. This “inquiry” does not have to ability to prosecute, acquit, nor hand down a criminal sentence.
“Official Government Inquiries” always have been and always will be a toothless old dog, rolled out to appease the public.
There will be no justice. Just us.
You best not sneeze and use a handkerchief or tissue whilst in the driving seat of your vehicle. Got it?
Blair says that “The world is a better place with Saddam in prison not in power.”
In that case clearly for him, the killing of between 100,000 and 1 million innocent people was a price worth paying!
Osama the Nazerene, Too true. We now have multiple religious extremist versions of Saddam in power in different regions of Iraq, and many of those are loyal to Iran. At least Saddam ran a secular state that allowed the freedom of religion and respected women’s rights.
The world is NOT safer now. It is even arguable that 7/7 wouldn’t have happened had we not participated in the unlawful invasion of Iraq.
The intelligence services would not have been able to recruit the patsies to run the “drills” on that day as these patsies were “radicalised” by the Iraq invasion.
shuttup fooo. I beat you to an inch o yo life wit my trouser python, mutha&£@%^.
I ain’t gettin on no plane…
Source please, Old Ballbag.
High Holborn
who’s this ‘we’ in the ‘we all thought Saddam had WMD’ ?
after the 9/11 failure so overcautious did the security services of almost every Western County become, after missing the 9/11 plot, they would probably have been reluctant to rule out Jamaica having WMD
but that also isn’t the same as saying Iraq definitely had them
you would almost never get a straight yes/no answer to that question from the security services
what you would get is guesswork and probabilities hedged in ambiguity
and through that ambiguity the liars drove their bullshit
and there were plenty who didn’t think he had WMD and said so at the time including Robin Cook who had seen the security briefings
via Paul Waugh tweet
Protestor at #iraqinquiry complains re police chaos: “If you’re going to have a police state, at least organise it properly.”
… who has also now conveniently passed on
Israel has wmd, and defies the UN continuously. Bring Israel to heel and I’ll forgive Iraq and Afghanistan.
Claire Short hasn’t passed away yet so why isn’t she being called?
There are facts and then there is what happened to Dr. Kelly. There are facts and then there is why not call and question Hans Blix at this inquiry. He is the one person best placed to answer most if not all questions relating to WMD’s. The Public and Parliament took that dossier as being an accurate piece of work which it clearly was not and the 45 minutes was designed to highlight danger and scare the public.
The cabbage patch doll apears tuesday.
There we go with the “we all thought he had them” bullshit!
I did NOT think he had them as I was writing on blogs and forums and in comment replies and letters to the media prior to the invasion.
They never produced even ONE credible report to support the accusation that Saddam still had any WMD capability in 2002/2003.
Whenever they were really pressed on the issue, (very rarely), the only thing that they could raise was the “unaccounted for stocks”.
These never existed as they were a figment of the UN’s imagination coming out of a 1002 exercise to calculate the maximum possible manufacturing capacity of the known (and destroyed) labs/factories.
The inspectors in the 1990s managed to track and have a paper inventory for ALL the stocks they found and destroyed. They had no inventory, orders, receipts, or evidence for the existence of the unaccounted for stocks. (because they never existed).
Where did the story of the unaccounted for stocks come from? Take the theoretical output at maximum capacity of the Iraqi labs and factories. That it the total *possible* amount of WMDs. Subtract from that theoretical maximum the number of found, accounted for and then destroyed stocks of WMD (for which there was a paper-trail) and you are left with the “unaccounted for” WMD stocks. The never existed, at all, AT ALL.
Now even if they had. Even if Saddam had been able to have a load of stocks that for some reason avoided being accounted for in the same way as the other stocks and somehow failed to leave a paper-trail. Even IF they had retained SOME of their WMD, guess what? They had gone LONG beyond their useful shelf-life and therefore would have been rendered inert by the passage of time and laws of physics.
I will bet that NOBODY will ask Blair about the origin of the imaginary “unaccounted for WMD stocks” and he will NOT be asked anything about the shelf-life of the weapons either.
There were NO WMD in Iraq in 2002-2003. Iraq was NOT a threat to us, or even her neighbours according to what the intelligence services had written in the draft of the September dossier.
Blair lead this nation into a war of aggression against a country that had NO WMD (and so was no longer in Breach of 1441) and was NOT a threat to us at all, let alone an imminent threat. Therefore there was NO lawful justification whatsoever for the invasion. Blair lead this nation into the supreme war crime.
Blair will lie with utter impunity and leave that conference centre today just as Free as he was when he went in.
Oooops.
“These never existed as they were a figment of the UN’s imagination coming out of a 1002 exercise to calculate the maximum possible manufacturing capacity of the known (and destroyed) labs/factories.”
should of course read as:
“These never existed as they were a figment of the UN’s imagination coming out of a 1992 exercise to calculate the maximum possible manufacturing capacity of the known (and destroyed) labs/factories.”
I need a coffee!
I caught my wife with another guy one day – 27 yeasr of marriage gone in one minute of my life. I’d loved her, cosseted her, supported her for all of those years in bringing up the children. And now this.
So I killed her. Just her. Not ‘the other man’. The police caught me and decided that I shoudl go on trial for murder.
What is the point of this Inquisition? It will not change the facts.
Punishment.
So you understand what happened, and can see it coming in the future.
PS: do you think that there’s no point locking up blokes who kill their wife? Thats a crap analogy.
Mrs Van Winkle was a right goer though.
Hey Other man I like your style!
The point Mr Van Winkle is, that you are in chokey and cannot kill another Mrs Van Winkle for 10 years or so (maybe less). This Inquisition has no teeth and can’t send bliar to eat porridge for a year let alone 10.
Having said that, I did hear Brillo or Portillo say that Bliar can be nabbed for war crimes in Azerbaijan and a few other god forsaken places in the region. Just like we tried to stick it to Pinochet. Apparently his lackeys have to be careful where he travels. So maybe the inquisition might embolden a few other shining democracies to incarcerate the Blessed bliar.
Osama,
Theres a bit of a difference between a trial and an Inquiry.
You don’t usually get an inquiry for a murder – e.g. for “baby P”, the trial’s job is to lock up the guilty and that’ll do, an inquiry would try to find out what lessons should be learnt.
Osama the Nazarene,
Whatever.Yeah.
She was rather adept at the old pipe polishing though. Insisted on swallowing. Dirty girl.
Sockpuppet#4, if the participants do not have to testify on oath (leaving aside prosecution) then this “Inquiry” leaves them free to “perjure” themselves (as Campbell and Straw clearly have) and so becomes another whitewash like Hutton, Butler and the other one.
Other Man too much information, you’re losing your style.
Well said!
You called m’lord?
How much is all this costing.
Unfortunately, ‘thinking’ is fine for opinions. As a basis for war perhaps we need more real evidence. Given that American companies were busy selling Iraq various components to make the weapons which could be used against us in ’45 minutes’ I suggest they would not have been found even if they existed. Otherwise embarassing. Therefore need to make up a question to fit an answer -cue the experts – Blair and Campbell.
If the case was so clear why so much drafting/redrafting of arguments and why sneak round the UN ?
The unanswered question is who gave Blair the authority to decide he did not need to follow UN resolutions? Ok -Goldsmith and an army of lawyers gave him advice but only the UN could sanction a war. The UN did not.
I look forward to watching the slippery weasel ooze round the questions. as we can believe not one word he says, who cares?
I never believed Saddam had WMD, they rehearsed the war the year before in Jordan, Saif Sarea (sp?) it was never really about WMD
Speak for yourself. Anyone that knew anything about the history of US relations with Iraq or about weaponry, missiles and WMDs would never have believed the drivel talked by Blair/Bush and assorted gutless flunkies. It was obvious to me from the start that it was an illegal war and should never have been allowed. Anyone that has supported, encouraged, planned or taken part in Iraq and Afghanistan is guilty.
MASSIVE MASSIVE WANKER!
White Wash!
MASSSIIIIVVVVE MASSSSSIVVE!!!! CUT SHAPES!! BIG FISH LITTLE FISH CARDBOARD BOX!!
I’m tweaking like fuck I am. I’m fucking mental I am. All us ravers are MENTAL!!!!!
Cannot help but think Guido is right. No startling new information will come to light, nothing will be resolved. The chattering classes, and politicos, will have their day and then we will move on. Blair will once more prove that style wins over substance in modern Britain.
We know what happened anyway. The powers-that-be will not wish an ex-PM to ‘go down’ as it would set a precedent which could come back to bite one of them on the arse in future.
Conclusion: classic British fudge.
The real question is this: how was it so simple for a cabal of New Age (see Findhorn Foundation) revisionists to infiltrate the highest offices of power in the land so quickly and to go so far in deconstructing British culture with barely no opposition or oversight? What have all the well-paid journalists/reporters been doing all these years? How could they have been so unaware?
http://www.deadbrain.co.uk/news/article_2004_03_11_3233.php#
This has been a primarily Scottish government, perhaps fairly so after Scotland suffered 18 years of non-representation under the Tories. Was it payback time for the English? Free university education and old-age care north of the border (highly commendable too) but not in England. Several million legal immigrants in southern England, already over-populated and under-resourced -do you hear of any incentives to persuade some people to settle in Scotland? How would it go down there? These are real issues and they have largely gone unnoticed and unreported.
Like I say, it really was so very easy.
Sid
(PS: still hoping someone will drag up and post that photo of Blair in a purple velvet jump suit when he met Berlusconi on his holidays)
Police said it was the UK’s biggest ever demonstration with at least 750,000 taking part, although organisers put the figure closer to two million.
There were also anti-war gatherings in Glasgow and Belfast – all part of a worldwide weekend of protest with hundreds of rallies and marches in up to 60 countries.
They came as UK Prime Minister Tony Blair, in a speech warning of “bloody consequences” if Iraq was not confronted, directly addressed those marching.
Lest we forget
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/2765041.stm
PS. I’m a big crossdressing gaylord. I’m only happy if I’m wearing little girly lacy panties. Not many know that.
Go fuck yourself Nick you twatty Belgian Goober gobbler
Call that an insult, cockholster? I’d say go fuck your mum except my bare arse would probably be in the way.
Old Knobcheese you’re obviously into necrophilia!
Post in your own name Old Holborn, be a man for once.
And yes, I am as it happens. Rather that than beca secret transvestite *snigger*
Hey Old Holborn! You in my favorite stockings and suspenders yet? Get on cam so I can see your lil ass!!
Hello again tat
why say you have fucked off in a hissy fit when you haven’t ?
or do you just like proving what a lying little shitbag you are
Now now, simmer down Old Holby. Y’know I want yo lil white ass.
Morning folks, can we hurry along please. I’ve still got to write the final chapter of my blockbuster autobiography. My publishers say it’ll make me some more millions. I’ve spoken to God and the Pope and they both say I’m doing the right thing.
You shutthafuckup bitch and make me my waffles. Damnit!
WIT MILK.
How was it done?
Pimple!
With the complicity of the vast majority population of the United Condom.
Hypnotised with your rising house prices, infinite credit and pride in your ‘international status.’
I want some money from your government as compensation for being driven out( in my own mercedes) by Major in ’95.’
I also want some money as a bribe to never come back!
If you can do it for the Talitubbies you can do it for me!
Give ME some cash Gordoom.
I was a victim of a conservative government.
I am a worthy cause and by george if I come back I will cause a heap of trouble.
Yours from my snowbound Ardennoise hippy paradise.
Tali tub bies provkes the mod machine
What will he say? “Hey! I’m a straight sort of guy. You know that. I admit, I made mistakes. But then, who doesn’t? Blah, blah, blah… I relied on intelligence advice, blah, blah, blah… and… so you see, it wasn’t my fault at all, really. But I’d do it all again, substantially. Though some of the details might have been different.”
Or Blair : questions he MUST answer (yeah, right!) Plus Livingstone suddenly realises he LOVES Gordon Brown! Ken = Hypocrite.
Blair is as straight as a dog’s tongue. It’s hard to find a more devious, lying, smarmy cuunt than this grinning obscenity.
How many innocent Iraqi adults, kids and babies were killed during the war to get rid of Saddam – hundreds of thousands? Blair has more blood on his hands than a black pudding maker.
Brown. He is also deluded and quite mad.
http://cyberboris.wordpress.com/2010/01/14/i%e2%80%99ll-fight-him-any-place-any-time/
Re. your remark about Ken, Labour fear Boris Johnson so much they have set up an Operation Stop Boris unit and Ken is brought back from the grave to help them. But this is how that little strategy is gonna work out, hahahaha (see link above). Boris is Ken’s nemesis.
I do not think Boris hates Ken. He just knew he had to get rid of him in order to do the best for London.
Unlike some Labour Party MPs who hate Ken with a passion bordering on religious fervour.
Blair getting an easy ride from the pro-zionist, pro-war, hand-picked panel.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/7072427/Watch-Tony-Blair-live-at-Iraq-war-inquiry.html
Gilbert and Freedman (40% of the Chilcot panel) are both zionists who put Israel first, strongly supported the Iraq war and still do. Don’t expect them to give Blair a hard time. They’re on the same side.
Like I said, a disinterested (except in the money) libel lawyer would have made Blair really writhe…
I don’t think Boris hates Ken either. http://cyberboris.wordpress.com/2010/01/14/i%e2%80%99ll-fight-him-any-place-any-time/
Ken is no fool, and I am sure Boris knows that. In many way, Ken is extremely capable, and much more clued up than anyone in the present government. He is also ruddy funny at times. But Ken is tarred with the “dodgy” tag. Something about him is unalterably dodgy, and the general public know that.
What’s a “real issue,” Sir R-D? Is it less serious than a “very real issue?” If you mean a bloody problem then say it’s a bloody problem. Stop all this evasive pc drivel and make your words mean something.
Well I fucking told you, the bastards have got away with it
Two MPs who lodged appeals against demands to pay back expenses have had their appeals upheld.
With some 80 MPs due to hear if they were successful, Lib Dem Jeremy Browne has learned he will not have to return nearly £18,000 he was told to repay.
The Taunton MP contested auditor Sir Thomas Legg’s ruling on claims for mortgage interest on his second home.
Labour’s Ann Cryer also won her appeal against a “substantial demand” but will repay £1,600 for three household items.
Sir Paul Kennedy, who was appointed to hear appeals, said Mr Browne acted “openly and honestly” when making his claim.
Mr Browne said he felt relieved and vindicated, but “not elated”.
He was the first of the 80 MPs who challenged Sir Thomas’s requests to repay money to make the results of his appeal public.
Labour’s Frank Cook, Frank Field and Patrick Hall and Tory Bernard Jenkin are also among those known to have appealed since the orders were made in October.
Memo to all Government Ministers. This is a good day to bury bad news.
Already started MP expenses claims upheld and no payback required.
Warm Front energy scheme complaints prompt MPs’ probe
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8486495.stm
As our masters in Brussels have declared europe’s foreign ministers to be redundant, this would be a good day to announce the conversion of UK embassies abroad into tourist information centres.
At least Blair made a decision. Imagine wavy flip flop call Me Dave in the same position.
The WRONG decision. Give me flip flop anyday with the right decision. Tony lovers make my hairs spring to attention. ffs get a life and smell the coffee.
Anti-war left?
So you are part of the pro-war right.
Fucking hell Guido your propaganda skills are getting weaker and weaker as you get older and older. Soon all the neo-cons like you will be dead and no-one will shed a tear.
And the anti-war movement hasn’t finished our good work yet. We will get our troops out of harm’s way in Afghanistan as we did in Iraq despite the rabid right wing rantings of yourself and other lunatics who still try to justify your bullshit theft based warmongering. Thought you were a Christian. Obviously that was just a cover.
You and your right wing warmongering friends have lost, the anti-war movement has won.
Suck it up loser.
Get with the peace programme loser.
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Agreed. I am not left wing at all. I am firmly opposed to the Iraq war and I was at the time. It was wrong, unlawful, a strategic error, a catalogue of tactical errors and it prevented effective use of troops in Afghanistan and made that legal (but futile) war weaker, longer and more deadly.
Blair is repeating the lie about Saddam preventing inspectors in. Saddam NEVER prevented inspectors. The West removed inspectors, they were never kicked out. The West refused to put inspectors back in, until certain conditions were met, when Saddam said yes, the West still refused for a while.
In the last two months before the invasion, Saddam was agreeing to everything the west wanted, and that was still not enough. The West would not take yes for an answer.
Saddam provided a full and detailed inventory of their entire weapons capability in 2003 as per the requirement of 1441. It id not include WMD, because they never had any WMD left in 2003.
The USA removed most of this declaration before handing what was left to the UN.
the USA even considered painting one of their own aircraft as a UN plane and then shooting it down to provide an excuse to invade. That is how dishonest Western “diplomacy” was.
Measured response, there…you sound just like Sir Martin Gilbert.
You always were fucking clueless concrete pump.
But the NuCons backed the war.
Yes they did and they were wrong to do so. What makes it worse is that Billy Hague and Cameron STILL TO THIS DAY hold that it was the right thing to do and would have been even if it had been known at the time that Saddam had no WMD. In other words, the tories are even MORE in favour of the unlawful regime change policy than Blair claimed to be.
“At least Blair made a decision. Imagine wavy flip flop call Me Dave in the same position.”
That should read as:
At least Blair committed this nation to the most serious crime possible, the gravest breach of international law possible. the SUPREME crime of a war of aggression. Imagine wavy flip flop call Me Dave in the same position.
like supporting Brown in cheerleading the Afghan catastrophe & slaughter ?
yeah, who could imagine far-fetched nonsense like that
And cast-iron voted for it too.
The only party who voted against it was the LibDems, are you saying that we would be better off if there had been a LibDem government?
and which party had the majority in Parliament at the time? Remind me how many Labour MPs voted against going to war?
Do you seriously think Blair would have been bothered if the Cons voted against war. Imagine what the spin machine and the press would have done?
Everything was for image and effect -the decision was made well before 2002.Blair just played to the crowd and ignored public opinion.
Afghanistan is a disaster, it is futile, but it is entirely LAWFUL, unlike the Iraq invasion.
which Dave supported
“Imagine wavy flip flop call Me Dave in the same position.”
He would have made the same decision. He has said so many times.
Shut the fuck up Jew!!
85, so the fact that Blair made not one but many bad decisions means nothing to you? You know, I can’t imagine Cameron messing up as badly as Blair did. Imagine how your Mr Brown would have… ah! We don’t have to imagine, we know. He starved our soldiers of body armour, didn’t he? Labour Party = New Nasty Party?
Socialists of all persuations, have always been nasty, evil, hateful people. There has never been a utopian socialist state in the history of the world and there never will be.
Socialism in all its known forms, always ends with disaster, repression, poverty and utter failure.
The UK is becoming East Germany circa 1976; about fucking time. And you’ll be first to be grassed up dickhead
Up against the wall motherfucker…
Fucking delicious!
arrhhh thats nice becket is on newsnight saying how valiant blair is bless GOD I HATE LIEBOUR TO THE CORE
I DETEST Liabour to the core. Beckett is a pathetic joke who couldn’t run a Brownie pack, but you know what? The polls (Jan 30th) are turning against Cameron. Broon’s bankrupting of the country could win him the election. He’s bought so many hundreds of thousand votes from civil servants and immigrants and so many of the population are apathetic and addicted to shit in all aspects of their lives that the miserable, hypocritical, sad, one-eyed, unelected Scottish bastard just might pull it off. If he does it really will be time to turn out the light.
Today will reveal nothing. The day Tony revealed he was a devout Catholic was the day we discovered he is delusional rather than a liar. Ultimately it was faith – a ‘feeling’ that invading Iraq was the right thing to do – that Saddam was an evil man – that post 9/11 the West needed to send a message, rather than evidence that led us to war. There was no evidence. Iraq was not a threat to UK sovereignty. There were no weapons of mass destruction. There were no links to al-qaeda. It wasn’t a war about oil either, the oil was there for purchase. Regardless, it is Tonys faith that consoles him now – the degree of suffering inflicted on our troops, on the people of Britain and Iraq will never be justified by the worn-out platitudes of ‘Saddam was an evil dictator’ and ‘democracy in the middle east’. At least we know Tony will be praying to himself for the rest of his life. Literally, to himself.
Actually quite a few of us here always had ‘Tony’ marked down as a delusional liar.
W.W.
Blair’s reliance on ‘honest but mistaken belief’ sounds a lot like Martin Luther’s ‘justification by faith alone’ – which is an odd position for a born-again Catholic to take.
Maybe he just likes the costumes, or inhaling the aura of wealth within the Vatican.
Blair’s reliance on ‘honest but mistaken belief’ is the only defence he can rely on in law. Every other justification he put forward has been proven false.
However, his faith is not a lawful defence against the supreme crime.
This should be on TV
But when all is said and done, Bliar’s worst crime was to hand over to McDoom!
Lol, ‘English Liberation Front”. So you and your Jack Russell called Holly are going to liberate the English from the comfort of your bedroom in mum and dads house? Splendid, keep it up!
My Jack Russell is called Rufus and I live with my wife in a house we jointly own. Seems like you are the arsehole.
When I talk about English liberation, I mean liberation from the Scottish Labour Party. Roll on Scottish independence – cannot come soon enough!
Arsehole is my name yes, I had cruel parents.
Ok, I can agree on letting the jocks go, but as a loyal Ulsterman, what would you have done with us? Leave us to the mercy of the fenian hordes and papist rule? (no offence Guido….) what would Cromwell say?
Ulstermen are welcome to remain in the UK for as long as they like. The only disagreement I have with Ulster MPs was their propping up McDoom over the 42 days – what did he give them in return?
I have nothing against Scots in general – I just cannot stand their treacherous Labour MPs who have spent the last 13 years stuffing England.
Cheers, much obliged. Don’t know what they got in return but was probably into the BILLIONS. Sickening thing is you lot subsidise us heavily, yet our ‘assembly’ can’t agree fuck all and just piss the money away. Sickening. And I didn’t even get to ride that milfy Iris.
Re the Scots. Agreed. But let them go if that’s what they want.
What about the welsh though?or are they just Englishmen with funny voices and predatory bestial inclinations?
Qustions I would like answered:
1/ why was the decision to go to war made in private between Bush, Blair and not jointly by the cabinet? and what part did unelected officials like Alistair Campbell play in the decision?
2/ having made the decision to go to war, why was no preparation made for the aftermath – what the hell was Clare Short doing as International Dev Minister? or is that one of the reasons that the planning was so bad?
3/ why, given the cost of the Intelligence Services, did the dossier get written by Alistair Campbell compiled from info he googled on the internet?
Because they were lying to justify their unlawful invasion.
Why in the name of all the saints, gods and other deities, should the questions of a shiteating plebroach like you ever be answered? In fact, that you had the affrontery to even ask the fucking questions means you will not see your next birthday. I own you.
Capice?
Will he get enough votes to get through to the next round in the Haig?
What do they care they are beyond reproach a nice sinecure with the EU awaits they have created a land for themselves where whatever we say or do means fuck all
I think Tony Booth gave his ‘son in law’ a few acting tips!
Hey Guido – That picture of Bliar is out of date me thinks!
The guy has been bottoxed for sure. Cherie purchased a discounted makeover for the two of them so that they could look more alike!
I think she succeeded.
They now both look like the arse end of a wasp farting!
not for long – a short walk to the gallows,hopefully
More like a short walk to his publishers and another megabucks publishing deal
Tony Blair got into the #iraqinquiry via a back entrance, after decoy Land Rover and BMW go in front entrance.
tony uses the back entrance. Mandy taught him well
And both prime candidates for breaking through your back door, eh Old Fannyburn? Eh? Eh?
Fuck off you Begian twat
Begian? Sorry I do not understand your underclass dialect. Now, be gone, before I call for a constable or you taste the sharp end of my riding crop.
Is this another reference to the fact that Bliar, McDoom and Mandelbum are agay love triangle that went wrong and that we are now all paying the price for the fact that three queers fell out with each other????
Haven’t any of your realised why the autobiography has not appeared? Despite a reputed £5 million advance?
It’s simple. Blair the Operator never took notes or had anything minuted. There is no paper trail. Only a slime trail.
“Chilcott and Me” by Lord Blair. Utter waste of time and money. He will simply bat away anything he needs to with “I thought it was the right thing to do”. Had this inquiry had more teeth and the questioning under oath perhaps it would have more importance.
and Tone would still have lied.
Oath, bible, don’t make me larf. He’s a papist!
Tone is too important for official blame.
There is something very odd knowing people are lieing through their teeth,yet everyone is going through the motions of listening.This enquirey is pure theatre.Nothing will be done, it will be the same old bilge..lessons learned,etc etc..pass the whitewash brush.
Blair is more than a bit cavalier with the facts and figures. This morning he referred to the Halabja massacre as ‘tens of thousands being killed’. I believe that the accepted figure is about five thousand. An appalling atrocity,sure, but tiny compared with the hundred thousand (and rising daily) killed a a direct result of his and Bush’s decision to invade.
One point which is never mentioned is how peripheral our decision to invade Iraq actually was.Bush was going to do it anyway, we contributed less than 10% of the needed military force. All this ‘Blair could have stopped it’ stuff is probably wrong, although taking part was a serious error, when we could have let the Yanks do the business and then come in afterwards with ‘clean hands’ to assist with putting the whole mess back together.
It’s a shame Mr Pierrepoint isn’t still around.
Calcutt was much slower
Indeed…. I suspect the BBC autocuties will be hyperventilating shortly…
Nick Robinson has started the ball rolling on the Today programme already, and I hadn’t even had my second cup of coffee….
Nick Robinson is a complete waste of space given up listening or watching him long ago. He no longer eben tries to report in an unbias way small beer indeed.
Fuck, you’re pretty sharp. I doubt anyone else has noticed that!
When does the BBC ever report the reality of life in Iraq today? All this democracy etc we brought, and the people we “liberated”.
All the Christinas – and there were a lot of them in Iraq, all perfectly integrated into society – have been told to either leave, convert to Islam, or face the consequences. Most are now destitute in either Syria or Jordan.
The churches have all been destroyed.
The crime level is almost intolerable.
Shortages of food, water, electricity.
etc etc.
Now things were not wonderful under Saddam, but…..
Christians lived in peace in Iraq
There was little crime
There was plenty of food, water, and electricity – until we bombed the power stations, water treatment plants etc etc
I wonder why the BBC never reports any of this??
But they’ve now got Democracy ?????
Great Scott! We’ve changed Iraq from being run by a despot to one that can now indulge in postal vote fraud.
Hey United Nations! Hey EU! Have a fucking gold star.
Iraq is not the really big problem in the Middle East. It is next door. Iran is the badasss motherfucker in the region, and that lickspittle with a small-man-complex that governs it is a far greater threat than Iraq ever was.
Yeah, less than half the people vote for a person who the Americans decide to allow to run the country.
Some democracy!
Come to think of it, that is still more democracy than we have had in this country for the last few years.
As for the badass mutherfucker next door? That would be the country that has benefited most from the Iraq invasion.
Well done Blair, you lying sack of shit!
“The recent ban of more than 500 candidates from Iraq’s upcoming elections is designed to cement the power of the country’s Shiite Islamists aligned with Iran. Will this latest sectarian rupture sink any hopes for a stable Iraq?” – in this months Foreign Affairs Newsletter.
Some democracy.
Mind you, thinking about that, the tories and labour have both implemented Asian only shortlists, so yeh, our democracy is just as fucked up as Iraq’s.
Not forgetting covering it in depleted Uranium which will produce birth abnormalities for…ever.
Give Brown another 5 years and it will like that here in Blighty.
and the result of erroneous foreign policy involvement in south east Europe in the
late 1990s and flawed ventures in Iraq and Afghanistan has resulted in lies
back at home regarding population
change:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/comment/city-eye-facts-on-a-plate-our-population-is-at-least-77-million-395428.html
http://www.mobileindustryreview.com/2008/08/74_million_mobile_connections_in_the_uk_60_million_people.html
Emily Maitliss already outside the building and has been for over the past hour breathlessly interviewing Laura Kuennsberg as there is nobody else to interview aprt from the “Stop the War” scruffs and the police.
He’s a highly intelligent, articulate man, a natural orator, a lawyer, and the possessor of a blank slot where most people have a moral compass: for all of which reasons he was in the end so harmful to the country.
Agreed, he won’t slip up.
He will say what he has prepared himself to say. I feel that the testimonies given so far have set the scene for his strategy. No matter what he says, no matter how well he says it. We all now know what a liar he is. He should be stood in the Hague, and tried. He might well get away with War Crimes. I actually think he would be found Guilty, and banged up.
He will get his agony soon enough. He is directly responsible for hundreds of thousands of needless deaths. Saddam was NEVER that effective. look what exists now. Not exactly paradise is it?
thank the worlds thickest President Dubya ‘pretzel choker’ for that
imagine being stupid enough to support that moron
Your right Tony he will not slip up. Whereas you could see Gordon making many slip ups and that would make for better TV. Having said that we should not loose sight family and friends lost loved ones and this circus leaves a somewhat bad taste in the mouth.
Even so we’re not entirely looking forward to today.
Cicero was a highly intelligent, articulate man, a natural orator and a lawyer.
The ancient Romans had him executed, cut his head off and pulled out his tongue.
Let’s hope history repeats itself.
I predict a barrage of shoes being thrown at his armoured Humvee, the glass of water he drinks from being auctioned on ebay for the fingerprints/wine changing ability and a long and very lucrative retirement in a little learjet by the sea.
It really is about time the British started rioting again.
Yeah and you’ll watch it all on your massive plasma from the safety of your fucking castle, while polishing your fucking blunderbuss. Gobshite.. Why don’t you fuckin kick off yourself?? Start a riot, go on….
comment more appropriately directed towards Richard Timney
the comment would be more appropriately directed towards Richard Timney
Mr Jacqui Smith wanks over gay porn, occassionally at our expence.
Mr Old Wetfart here however,, likes to incite riots he wouldn’t dream of joining. And, almost forgot, he’s a fucking Nazi bastard as well.
Shut the fuck up tosser; I’d have Old Holborn over a million of you anyday, even if he pisses me off at times.
So do one; fuck off…
Fucking delicious!
They don’t call him “Teflon Tony” for nothing
His probably wearing Teflon today!
Cherie’s arse is still enormous. Nothing can change that fact.
“the unreconciled anti-war left hopes Blair will trip up and effectively confess to war crimes”
Real conservatives appose the war too, Guido. Don’t forget that!
Agreed. But real conservatives presumably have no truck with “international law”.
IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH ‘REAL CONSERVATIVE’ GENIUS-PRESIDENT BUSH WHO I THOUGHT WAS WONDERFUL
NOW MOVE ALONG AND DON’T MENTION HIM AGAIN
They might do now, but I’ve forgotten what they thought at the time.
Pretty useless opposition party really, if they were against the war and did nothing. And swallowing the dodgy dossier whole hardly gets them off the hook on that charge.
let’s not forget the redneck President with the IQ of a walnut who started this lunacy
Let’s not forget that the possessor of this ‘walnut brain’ was nuts deep in petrochemical interests which profited massively from this war.
You live in a dreamworld.
More Conservative MPs voted for war than Labour MPs. Tony Blair is a Conservative so it could be argued that it was the Conservatives who are as guilty if not more guilty of war crimes than the Labour party. Gordon Brown is guilty of underfunding our troops which led to dozens of them dying unnecessarily and so he too is a war criminal.
The illegal Iraq invasion has not only smashed Iraq into a thousand pieces it has also exposed the rotten state of our own democracy.
Our House of Commons is barren of honourable members and that is all down to the party system. And so the party system must be smashed into a thousand pieces for our democracy to be saved.
Agreed.
In fairness to MPs generally and the public in particular,few thought that a British Government would go to war without cause.I had assumed that as we had a total air and satilite coverage of Iraq,they knew that there were WMDs and their location but had to keep quiet for operational reasons.The incompetence and mendacity was mind boggling.
This is qute correct, I too – as much as I’ve always loathed the pack of them – thought that the Tory and Liberal leadership had to be consulted in private (Privy Council terms) and that there must be more to the situation than could be made public. So like many others, I gave them the benefit of the doubt
As it is, their hubris and deception has made this oHuntry a far more dangerous place than it was before. We have a thoroughly disaffected Muslim populace a large % of which which is out to take over the country. The ineptitude and bad faith of our ‘leaders’ has been staggeringly culpabale
Right! so the opposition was lied to as was the country and the armed forces [soz warmongering hyenas] , unless you have proof other wise ?.
Blair/Brown are the ones that signed the orders so deal with the real world !.
“Tony Blair is a Conservative”
Tony Bliar, as is his heir Dismal Dave, is most definitely NOT a Conservative. He is, as is, the NewLabour movement, a “third way” corporatist, statist, social fascist.
There is a vast difference, clue Churchill anti fascist Tory, Dismal and Phoney, statist, “third way” quislings.
Cameron delclares himself to be the heir to Blair.
David Cameron is dangerously out of touch with the electorate and reality.
Dave’s a fucking lunatic.
Tony Bliar is NOT a conservative!!!!! He is a hippy a traitor a neophile and a NEW MAN NONCE and it is high time that he was referred to in such terms by everyone on this site. That way he will always be tarred by these terms and hopefully it will get back to him and he will find out how hated and despised he really is!!!!
notice that I said conservatives and not Conservatives. The Tories are statist authortarian social democrats, not advocates of limited government or fiscal conservatism.
Make sure the public take their shoes off at the entrance please.
nice … Holy man in attendance
Don’t confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up. Send the bastard to the Hague.
I understand Blair cannot visit certain countries for fear of arrest Pinochet style. Anyone have any idea which countries they are?
The CIA protect him, he can go anywhere he wants and none will touch him.
And Cherie is sueing the Mail for daring to complain about the 500K billed to the taxpayer for protecting them from the consequences of Tony’s actions.
This is where it falls apart – this evidence is not being given under oath – it is not a cross-examination simply asking questions “lessons to be learned,” Chilcot also has the ‘out to lunch’ Baroness Prashar, a sderious waste of space who can be relied upon to go off at a tangent and effectively waste time on meaningless verbal babble.. having saisd all that it is probably the best six hours of entertainment on the box and no double Simon Cowell will bring out CHILCOT – THE MUSICAL complete with premium line telephoner voting as to the next country without WMD we invade. Isle of Wight looks good! We’ll keep the Red Funnel flying here!
Bad Karma payback.
Expect selective meteorite strike.
Blair should be tried for crimes against this country, let alone Iraq.
Blair should be hung drawn and quartered for allowing McDoom to remain as Chancellor after the 2001 election victory.
Blair should be neutered for emasculating England in devolution to Scotland and Wales.
Blair should be hung out to dry for wrecking our institutions.
Blair should be kicked into the North Sea for his immigration policies.
Blair is almost as much the author of our misfortunes as is McDoom and it is Blair who allowed McDoom his freedom to shit on the English!
Blair is a traitor, a third rate actor who managed to become PM!
In complete agreement with all of the above.
You’re wrong, he’s an excellent actor.
Blair is Gorgon with a happy face.
Er, that’s hanged, not hung!
45. English Liberation Front and 277. Busted Nokia
Re: Sangatte, version II. Quotation from article in Daily Telegraph:
‘The Calais mayor, Natacha Bouchart, blames Britain’s lax asylum policies for the influx of migrants’
I feel uneasy addressing the issue of population as it is a hot potato and I do not wish to be seen as a bigot. Nonetheless there are real, live issues that are not being addressed and the people of this country have a right to know what is happening don’t they?
Obviously Britain’s asylum policy is far more lax than France’s. We’re in recession (that’s right, don’t believe that +0.1% growth rubbish, as Guido says, it’s -3.2% over the year) and have high unemployment among the indiginous population already. Why are we doing it? Is the Labour government trying to increase the population and by association the birth rate (immigrants always have higher birth rates: just a fact, not a criticism) in order to deal with an ageing population and the increasing costs of their, and one day our own, care?
Or should we just accept the testimony of Evening Standard journalist and former Labour Party speech write Andrew Neather in his article published on 23.10.09 entitled: ‘Don’t listen to the whingers – London needs immigrants’
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23760073-dont-listen-to-the-whingers—london-needs-immigrants.do
I include below a few quotes from that article:
“the deliberate policy of ministers from late 2000 until at least February last year…was to open up the UK to mass migration”.
“I wrote the landmark speech given by then immigration minister Barbara Roche in September 2000, calling for a loosening of controls”.
“That speech was based largely on a report by the Performance and Innovation Unit, Tony Blair’s Cabinet Office think-tank…(it’s) big immigration report was surrounded by an unusual air of both anticipation and secrecy. Drafts were handed out in summer 2000 only with extreme reluctance: there was a paranoia about it reaching the media…Eventually published in January 2001, the innocuously labelled “RDS Occasional Paper no. 67″, “Migration: an economic and social analysis” focused heavily on the labour market case…But the earlier drafts I saw also included a driving political purpose: that mass immigration was the way that the Government was going to make the UK truly multicultural”.
“I remember coming away from some discussions with the clear sense that the policy was intended – even if this wasn’t its main purpose – to rub the Right’s nose in diversity and render their arguments out of date”.
“Ministers were very nervous…above all for Labour’s core white working-class vote”.
“this first-term immigration policy got no mention among the platitudes on the subject in Labour’s 1997 manifesto, headed Faster, Firmer, Fairer.
The results were dramatic. In 1995, 55,000 foreigners were granted the right to settle in the UK. By 2005 that had risen to 179,000; last year, with immigration falling thanks to the recession, it was 148,000…In addition, hundreds of thousands of migrants have come from the new EU member states since 2004, most requiring neither visas nor permission to work or settle. The UK welcomed an estimated net 1.5 million immigrants in the decade to 2008… Part by accident, part by design, the Government had created its longed-for immigration boom”.
That’s it. Good weekend all.
“Guido reckons Blair will walk away with his reputation unchanged”
Incorrect – Blair will come away with an enhanced reputation as heavyweight individual who does not let the detail get in the way.
Blair will stitch up Brown, who will be interested in Blair, he has already been found ‘guilty’ when the serving PM can be served up
Blair is a yesterday man.
The majority don’t even give a toss about 2001, 2002 etc. but they sure want to know how things will look for them at the end of 2011.
We all need to get back to real politics: getting this country better governed; getting back some decency into public life; improving living standards and somehow tackling the overcrowding issues.
There is truth in that. Some depressing news from this morning -
‘Sangatte II’ opens in Calais – http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/7095293/Sangatte-II-opens-in-Calais.html
“The Calais mayor, Natacha Bouchart, blames Britain’s lax asylum policies for the influx of migrants.”
Need we say more? Scrap the discredited asylum system now! Kick Labour to Hell for betraying us!
You believe the french woman?
Lax?
Asylum seekers are supposed to be afraid of death or persecution -so they either get allowed to say in France. Otherwise, they go.
So its french laxness that lets them hang around in limbo, instead of the two clear options.
Still amazed that the teleportation device which lands them in France doesn’t have the range to get them to the UK. Maybe it’s like one of those portal things like they have in Primeval, that only goes point to point.
First aim of an asylum seeker, get into the EU. Then travel across the continent of safe haven countries, until you get the the land of milk and money, the UK.
The softest of soft touches in the entire EU.
RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sure you have all seen this –
http://www.arrestblair.org/
I coughed up in the hope it eventually gives him a sleepless night. Imagine if it swelled to “lotter” levels – His money grabbing “under class” would be the 1st ones to turn on him and have ago.
Then again his Toniness is such a money grabber he would probably arrest himself and try and claim
Another five grand and I’ll do it myself.
There are some very hi-tech rifles around today. You can take someone out from 2 miles away. Body guards are about as useful as a chocolate fireguard.
The record is 1.51 miles for a confirmed kill, held by a currently serving British soldier.
More news about Tone’s dizzying liasons with the super-rich on the former Torygraph site:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/7054986/Tony-Blairs-climate-change-project-paid-for-by-Oleg-Deripaska-oligarch-who-entertained-Lord-Mandelson-and-George-Osborne.html
Blair – the biggest political scoundrel – apart from Sir Oswald Mosley – of the last 100 years.
His justification for the mass murder of Iraqis and the pointless deaths of our valiant troops is that it “was the right thing to do” justifies international anarchy, including Saddam’s own invasion of Kuwait.
The Chilcot panel does not include one lawyer despite the legal ramifications of the Inquiry. The Smirking Chancer will lie repeatedly once again and his plutocratic friends will claim it as a “triumph”.
The Court of Public Opinion knows better. Only a landslide for the Conservatives this May will sweep away the last vestiges of Devil Eye’s legacy forever.
‘…despite the legal ramifications’.
Actually there are non. They are NOT on oath.
A technicality. The questions rest on complex legal issues which require at least one member of the panel to interpret and understand their implications.
May? Are you expecting the hung Parliament that result’s from February’s election to be that unstable?
What’s brown and smelly?
Tony Blair’s underpants.
Do you mind? I’m the best Number Two around here.
he is sponsored by persil
Brown
You should wash us more often.
Gordon Brown, obviously.
Nicely put Guido.
Blunkett on PM today thinks the BLiar is our best PM ever!
lol @Blunkett the cheerleader.
I suppose it takes a blind man to be a cheerleader for Blair.
Heard this one, got his digs in for Thatcher and Major and how much they have made post PM, jealous are we? Then he got in the ’18 years of pain between 1979 and 97′. Finally, he mentioned that you don’t make money aout of politics….what an odious man.
I could see nothing wrong with him.
Tony let me run riot amongst the totty.
Pity Betfair isn’t giving odds on whether he will out Campbell big bad Al in the self promotion stakes.
At least a liittle (pre arranged) incident / intentional slip is guaranteed.
Come on admit it —– we all miss him!
Come on admit it —– we all miss him!
Right : like a dose of syphilis, concomitant with an outbreak of Black Death (or should that be Brown Death?)!
How the fuck did you get into my medical records? Are you a slippery fucking Jew?
I may very well open up with this gag.
Let me know what you think?
Mandelson goes to the doctor for a check up.
The doctor comes back and says. ‘sorry, you have AIDS’.
‘What can i do?’ Asked Mandelson
The doctor said, ‘Well i need the names of the last 25 people who you had sex with’.
Mandelson replies, ‘Fuck off, i haven’t got eyes in the back of my head’
Open what?
We know the truth Blairey boy
Blair also avoids walking near woods. Some day soon, he may find the urge to wander too compelling.
Guido’s called this exactly right, Blair will run rings around these old duffers.
Until someone issues an international arrest warrant for this bloodsoaked
criminal he will continue living the high life on the back of his decision to fabricate the case for war against a sovereign nation which posed no threat to Britain.
One man knew for certain Blair’s case for war was a pack of lies, and he was driven to take his own life, or was skilfully liquidated.
In Iraq the heroic resistance to the trailer trash terrorists has been wrecked by craven fools and cowards accepting dirty American blood money.
However a new struggle is beginning as witnessed by the destruction of numerous major buildings of the puppet Government in Baghdad since December, including the forensics crime lab this week.
The Zio Fascists continue to rub Arab noses in the dirt by appointing Blair as the region’s peace envoy, but of course the region is run by corrupt kings and
puppet rulers, so they deserve all the humiliation they get.
Naturally the trot scum at the BBC will be biased towards Blair because they have no pride or respect, they are just the mouthpiece of a NaziLabour party which committed war crimes, and has brought the country to near bankruptcy.
You don’t have to listen to a single word he utters – the fukkers actions and decisions should be on trial NOT his Present day spin, smoke and mirrors.
IE. Where are his expenses claims? – you know the ORIGINAL documents – oops shredded – oh! how so very………..
Fortuitous?
“Chilcot : the Finale”
Don’t forget Gordon is coming on for the encore (unless an election is called)
He might have invaded Iraq illegally but he also walked away and left us with Brown – which is the biggest crime?
Just think if Brown was still the chancellor when the Bust hit, he would have been sacked and confined to History along with Mr and Mrs Balls.
Tony would now be handing over to the next Labour leader, one David Miliband.
It’s unfair that the only time in his political life when Mr Blair acted on principle, (rightly or wrongly) rather than out of expediency is the reason so many people hate him.
If he had said he was acting on principle, maybe he would commdand some respect. Instead, he lied to us all – 45 mins, beyond doubt etc etc and it is because of that he is hated. And he continues to lie about it, and no doubt will do so again today.
Yes – that is the other side of it. The problem for Bliar is that he made up his mind for war and regime change very early. But he knew his lilly livered party would never stand for that, hence the dodgy dossier, the lies, the obfuscation, the 45 minute claim, the relentless droning on about WMDs, the misleading of Parliament.
As you say, if he could have stood up and said at the outset that this was about removing Sadaam – at least he have earned some respect.
It was also about (1) sucking up to the americans, and (2 – as they’ve mentioned in this circus) Blair liked strutting about in america feeling important.
The first is probably an unpleasant reality of britain’s military role in the world. The second is the kind of personality defect that is pretty likely for any arse thats ever wanted to be prime minister.
Sir WW – Bliar is a man without principles of any kind (except making money of course – here he is pre-eminent). Remember, he dumped every principle he ever believed in just to get elected. Those who couldn’t see this voted for him and lumbered us with the most poisonous, destructive and divisive government of modern times. Generations will go on paying for the totally discredited NuLiebour experiment for many years to come. Our standing and reputation in the world may never recover. This is also the man who professes to be a Christian, but who completely ignored the principles of his so-called faith, and regularly denied that he had a faith at all. I think on that point he actually got something right.
It is quite right that his legacy (something apparently so important to him) will always be that he knowingly lied to his country and to Parliament to take us into an illegal war. This may have satisfied his vanity and his enormous ego, but for those who died, and their families, it was unspeakably awful and something for which he should be reminded for the rest of his miserable life. To think that he has actually got away with Iraq just makes it even worse. At least he has lost much of his freedom – I am sure there are those who will try to get to him sooner or later. For that he has only himself to blame.
Splitting hairs Mr HughJ the fact that the war was illegal is neither here nor there. Guido’s Hampstead and Islington liberal chaterati were very happy to bomb the hell out of Kosovo, I mean Serbia, (bad influence that millipede) in an equally “illegal” action started by the banker’s friend Clinton. Then it was justified and nobody mentioned anything about the legality of the action.
In fact it was lollipop Billy who created the precedent of “illegal” action which could then be followed with impunity by his successor Dubya.
Bliar was simply following the lessons learnt by the British political establishment in 1956 with Suez. In matters of war and peace do not cross the Yanks. In fact follow them slavishly. The froggies learnt the opposite lesson from Suez, never trust the Yanks. This is why Dunky-Smith and Billy Hague and even Wavey Davey thought it was right to follow the Yanks. THAT IS THE ONLY POLICY FOLLOWED everything else is spin and justification.
There is something in what you say Sir William. I despise and loathe Phoney Bliar with a vengeance – for one thing, it is his fault we are now lumbered with McDoom.
But as you say, the one issue on which he took a stand, the one issue where he was prepared to show leadership, the one issue where he did not appease the luvvies and do the populist thing – that one thing is Iraq.
Odd isn’t it?
Blair has about as much principle as you Waad.
You fucking wanker. Fuck off you warmongering c’unt.
Wouldn’t it be wonderful if Blair were greeted by men in black facemasks and led down into the basement to a chamber with a plank of wood, straps and a bucket of water.
This twat was a liar as PM what makes anyone think he is going to change now ? he’s also had a long time to prepare his answers
there is no legality to this enquiry anyway !
The biggest threat to Blair comes from the audience, many of whom lost their children in this war. Most of them seem to forget that their children were all volunteers and not forced to go, those who joined under the age of 18 could only have done so with their parents written consent.
If one of them ‘loses it’ and starts abusing Blair live on the TV then it could go very bad for him.
Service families know their sons and daughters are “volunteers” – but once they have volunteered, they don’t have a choice about which battles to fight. It is up to our politicians who do make the decisions to be honourable and to only put soldiers in harms way if it is in the national interest so to do. The charge against Bliar is that he was cavaliar with our soldiers’ lives!
Absolutely spot on…
Fucking delicious!
2-1 We Learn nothing new
5-1 He blames it all on gordon
50-1 Someone throws a shoe
100-1 I don’t care if Monday’s blue
Tuesday’s gray and Wednesday too
Thursday I don’t care about you
It’s Friday, I’m in love
I just hope they’ve got their security sorted today – sounds like an ideal set up from a film that everyone else blames tony then tony has an “accident”.
An accident with a Steamroller would cheer me up.
But hey,let’s not get too serious please
I was laying on an operating table in the hospital when the anesthetist put me under.
I thought it would have been easier for the surgeon if I remained on the table
You were laying on the operating table because you were having a frontal lobotomy you c’unt.
Told you so.
Cheese eating got-a-realistic-grasp-of-the-situation-persons.
Chirac was bought by Saddam…So he has nothing to say…
Chirac had far wider experience of actual war than almost any western politician of the last 30 years.
I like how the americans chose their spin machine not to attack Ireland, Germany or Russia on this one.
PS: Its a crap conspiracy theory anyway. Pro-arab actions of a french government are far more to do with keeping a wide range of ex-colonies sweet and “influence”.
The worst indictment of Blair is that he has destroyed Britain’s credibility…
Either he fiddled the “intelligence” and thus disgraced the PM’s Office…
Or the “intelligence” was wrong and simply cannot be believed in the future on any major issue…
Or a combination of the two…
Either way, he has debased the country in the eyes of the world for which he should never be forgiven…
PS WHo will believe Britain when was say ‘Iran has nucelar weapons” for example… NO ONE….
grow up – everbody already thinks the British are duplicticous liars, remember we had an empire once?
You are so right.
the Krauts have an expression – Kaufen Den Englischen Weg, buying the english way – to pilfer.
You are duplicitcous mutha@%£@£%#*!!! I take what’s left of yo empiiire and ram it right up yo hole!! English mutha&$%*^%#. I kill all those bitches!
I ain’t gettin on no plane fooo!!
I am more interested in why he stays with minger Cherie when he has got that much cash.
I bet it is like shagging a tub of cottage cheese
They need each other. Just think what stories they could tell about each other if they split up.
Lol!
They’re doggers. She has a three-cock-gob. Quite legendary I hear. A sight to behold! He just watches, doesn’t partake. Fucking pansy cuckhold.
And I bet Cherie has lots of evidence filed away.
She holds the negatives in one hand and Tony’s shrivelled up balls in the other
Yeah. You are just a gobshite. Gobshite.
Hey lay off my Dad.
A day for hoons from the MSM to the star performer. A colossus striding the stage of high hooniness.
Have any citizens attempted to arrest Mr Slotgob yet ?
Who the hell is Baroness Tonge?
Jeez, how do these people get where they are today?
Dunno.
I expect him to take full advantage of the decision not to question witnesses under oath.
“…You seriously trying to imply it was only the “chattering classes” or “Hampstead and Islington intellectuals” who thought the Iraq War was one of the most stupid ideas in decades or that most of the British public didn’t know Blair was a Liar and Bush was an idiot ?…”
I’m not Guido but YES. If SO many people opposed Bliar and hate him just how the fuck did Labour get re-elected in 2005 with a huge majority? Because the white middle class media types that opposed the war (the BBC in particular) still campaigned for Labour, I heard people like Polly Toynbee and Yasmin Alibi Brown say they “held their noses and voted Labour”
The way to punish Blair and the Labour party was to throw them out in 2005. As someone who never voted for these fucking Socialists I can hold my head high, but those of you who voted Labour from 97 onwards are as guilty as Blair.
Did Tony Blair promise the UK a Time Machine in the manifesto to go back and not invade in the 2005 Election ?
So shut the fuck up
Elections aren’t referendums they are Elections
The clue is in the name
I never voted for Blair or New Labour either but if you are deluded enough to think being a NeoCon Bush Poodle makes Blair or New Labour Socialists you simply don’t know what you are talking about
They are Champagne Socialists. They talk Socialism but don’t walk it. The worst kind. They betray the idiots who vote for them, leaving them reliant on the state, living on crime ridden states full of bone idle criminals and suck up to the middle classes who fund the country only to stab them in the back. Scum.
Sir, you are 100% correct. Hypocrits. Deceivers. Traitors.
Quite right, OAP…
I delivered on all my promises; education,education,education – tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime – no more wars in my premiership – no more boom and bust – 24 hours to save the NHS…..
because
he
is
a
Liar
and some of us knew that even before he was Shadowing Michael Howard
Bollocks, Blair should have been thrown out of power in 2005, the lefty shits whinnig now like you didn’t have the balls to do it. What’s up frightened the Tories might make you get a job rather than using your daughter as a whore to earn money you fucking twat?
Then so should the Conservatives for being dumb enough to support the lying scumbag. Yes they were THAT braindead.
All the Far-Right Neo-Con shiteating dribbling poodles who cheered on submental halfwit Bush should clearly piss off and shut the fuck up because Iraq proved they are too fucking stupid to take even a shit without adult supervision.
Mission Accomplished!
Morons.
They wouldn’t send their daughters out whoring.
They find a way to make other peoples daughters whores and then steal the money. Immoral pimps.
“The way to punish Blair and the Labour party was to throw them out in 2005. As someone who never voted for these fucking Socialists I can hold my head high, but those of you who voted Labour from 97 onwards are as guilty as Blair.”
Bang on the money – 2005 was the election Labour should have lost. As it happens, more English constituents did vote Tory than voted Labour in that election, but because of a quirk in the electoral system, Labour still got more seats. Then of course, this Scottish Government could rely on its Scottish supporters to send Labour idiots back to Westminster in their droves.
But for sure, 2005 is when Labour should have been found out!
I suggest you look at the actual % of the voting population that Bliar recieved in 2005 to actually get his ‘huge’ majority.
W.W.
Doesn’t matter Bliar got HUGE votes even in Muslim areas. Was Jack Straw voted out of Blackburn? Nope, why? because most Muzzies didn’t give a shit and like Labour for letting them do their terrorism here and get free handouts for voting for them.
I wouldn’t describe the number of votes he got as huge.
Though there are clearly a HUGE number of utter fuckwitts in this country for him to get elected in the first place never mind three times..
W.W.
It is to be accepted that those who have been allowed to settle in a country legally are likely to vote for the party that let them do so. I do not blame immigrants. My argument is with the Labour Party … it is really a massive form of gerrymandering.
But people love Tony
Don’t they ?
That’s how I became Conservative Leader and slapped David Davis into obscurity after all
OT but I got this from Zac Goldsmith re Lib Dem activist Dan Falchikov:
As you probably know, local Lib Dem MPs launched a campaign to ‘Save Kingston Hospital’ on Monday, claiming that Kingston’s A&E and maternity units are threatened by “secret Labour plans”.
First, I want to reassure you that if there is a threat to Kingston Hospital, local Conservatives will campaign with every ounce of our energy to protect it. And we will be backed up by the Conservative Party nationally.
It is accepted that nothing can happen to the hospital before the General Election, and if Conservatives form the next Government, David Cameron has repeatedly promised; “We will stop Labour’s forced closure of A&E and maternity units”.
I have also received assurances from Andrew Lansley, our Shadow Health Secretary, that if we win the election, he will impose an immediate moratorium on proposed closures of A&E and maternity units across the country, including those that may be in the pipeline at Kingston.
However, that said, I have been investigating the Lib Dem claims about ‘secret plans’, and have written to Susan Kramer asking her to share the information that has triggered her campaign.
My fear is that the Lib Dems have exaggerated a problem in order to create an election opportunity. If so, they will have needlessly frightened vulnerable members of the community into believing they will lose a valuable local service.
That is certainly the view of a very senior spokesman for Kingston hospital who has told Mike Penning, the Shadow Minister for Health that the Lib Dem campaign will demoralise staff and may compromise patient care.
Here are the facts: the hospital has been under an NHS London review for many months, along with a number of other hospitals, and since the launch of that review, nothing has changed.
At a Hospital Board meeting this morning, the Chief Executive and Chairman stated categorically that there are no secret plans to cut services at Kingston, and no site closures are under consideration. The chairman described the Lib Dem campaign as “irresponsible”, citing the damaging affects on staff morale and patients.
Sian Bates, Chair of NHS Richmond and sector chair of NHS South West London has also angrily dismissed the Lib Dem claims, saying: “Healthcare for South West London strongly refutes any claims that there are secret plans to close A&E or maternity units at Kingston Hospital or any hospital. This work is at an early stage and has not considered any specific sites for closure nor have we agreed any numbers of hospitals that will be required to deliver A&E, maternity, complex surgery, critical care or specialist children’s care.”
It has now emerged that the Lib Dem campaign site – http://www.savekingstonhospital.com – was registered by Susan Kramer on December 11th – more than a month ago. If the threat to the hospital was so urgent, why did the Susan Kramer wait so long?
And today the Daily Mirror Associate Editor Kevin Maguire has reported that he overheard someone boasting on a train about getting the Evening Standard to report that Labour has a secret plan to shut Kingston Hospital. In his twitter posting, Maguire adds “Train bloke now boasting the hospital scare story was cooked up at his kitchen table”. Maguire managed to take a photograph of the man, and surprise surprise, he has been identified as local Lib Dem activist Dan Falchikov.
We are all fed up of Labour. But when we criticise them, it must be based on facts. We’ve all had enough of fabricated threats from politicians. These sorts of campaigns have to be honest, or real peoples’ lives are affected. I will keep abreast of this issue and if anything changes, I will let you know.
Best wishes,
Zac Goldsmith
Conservative PPC Richmond Park and North Kingston
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How can it be the finale when we haven’t yet heard from the man who wouldn’t buy the helicopters?
Brown is surely the denouement?
So Mr Smarmy War-Monger faces the inquisition today? If I thought it would make a scrap of difference then I might have watched it. However, in the absence of an enquiry where evidence is given on oath and the questions are from an eminent QC, then I fear that the whole thing will be a waste of time and nothing will change.
At least Toady, Toenails and Blunkett are rooting for him.
The audience on last night’s Question Time were clearly hostile to Gordon Brown’s proposal to pay the Talaban not to fire at our troops. Nice one Gordon. You’re onto an election winner with that dopey idea.
Unusually for a Scot, Gordon is a dab-hand at giving away cash – but then it’s OUR cash!
More debt for the English. We must remember to give the jocks a big bill when they finally fuck off when the Tories get voted in.
Let’s sell the whole of Scotland to Donald Trump.
I thought we had done?
The trouble with Scotland is it’s full of Scots.
The really brilliant thing about this inquiry is the way Brown has shot himself in the foot – with a bit of luck he’ll get a really humiliating grilling JUST before the election.
Coooeee, Prezza !!
Remember its not just the lies, but the fact that Blair played politics over our soldiers and iraqi civilians lives.
Directly causing deaths by delaying ordering military kit and not planning for the vacuum of power once the fighting was over, purely to hide his lies.
Weaving the words Tory and cuts into his answer should cover that
Cue Blair’s tears in 3..2..
Has Blair been using Botox and Sunbeds?
I don’t know, but his hairline is receding as fast as the UK economy. Perhaps he could borrow bob aintworthatoss’s syrup to cover it.
I wouldnt say no.
My first question to Blair would have been…”How long have you been a slimy lying c’unt”
Since I qualified as a lawyer.
And since Mandy started sticking his cock up my arse.
Hey you What nonsense you post. Our sevice personel don’t join up expecting to be asked to fight an illegal war & having joined up they have no choice but to go where they are told
Yo Blair
Don’t grass me up and the cheque will be in the post
Anon 31 – ‘We all thought Sadam had WMD’
Speak for yourself mate.
After Iraq’s forces were trashed in the first Gulf War, the country was continuously monitored via satellite, agents on the ground, and overflown by US and British aircraft every day.
How exactly did Saddam manage to develop a WMD programme under such surveillance, let alone the missiles capable of hitting ‘Britsh interests’ (i.e. a Scud could on a good day just about reach RAF Akrotiri in Cyprus)?
The WMD threat was a load of bollocks. Everyone with two braincells to rub together knew this, and knew that Blair was lying in order to make the case for an llegal invasion which led to the death of lots and lots of people.
Blair should be behind bars.
…and that was the one thing that really wasn’t questioned : Even if there were weaponised bio or nuclear elements out there, what did Saddam have as his delivery system ? Scuds.
Scuds FFS. Remember their pinpoint accuracy in Gulf 1 ?
Laughable. Blair should go to the Hague.
Exactly. A Scud launched from Iraq would struggle to hit the island of Cyprus, never mind an airbase ON the island.
I was going to mention scuds, but of course the excuse is that the WMD’s get given to terrorists. ( But of course Saddam didn’t really want to give his goodies away, and if he had any WMD’s they’d be for his own survival – aimed at Iran or Isreal).
Scuds also couldn’t carry weapons. Its not very easy to just bolt the WMDs to the front, but worse- the scuds were breaking up in mid-air, basically just scattering debris.
I can never understand why people vote themselves into an unknown, is it some form of imbecilic gambling addiction that drives them to it? Surely they cannot believe tinkering telly or newspapers, are they that naive?
How can voters trust their future to a person/party they don’t know let alone a process they don’t fully understand, when the evidence of many decades clearly shows that all politicians are at best down right dishonest?
Who are these voters where have they been? like some small child in a toy shop pound coin clutched tightly in hand fearing the world might end if they don’t spend it, yet the realisation their pound hasn’t bought them what they really wanted so are in turn hopelessly dissatisfied with their purchase.
I am also reminded of the owner of a newly purchased property who after a few weeks complains about the noise from the airport next door.
Its not Tony Blair it never was, its the idiot voter!
I can’t watch the slimy ‘orrible little sh*t bastard any longer cos if I do I’m gonna throw up then wreck my telly
I can’t sit and watch anymore either. The passengers are getting stroppy.
Watching B£iar delivering his well rehearsed litany of lies, it strikes me just how accurate the Tories’ 1990′s campaign against him actually was:-
‘New Labour, new danger’.
If Adolf Hitler had been captured alive and had been put on trial in Nuremberg, he would have sounded equally as artificially sincere.
Hitler would have been more likeable than Bliar.
How many people do you have to kill to become a despot???
Blair and Bush must surely be up to African dictator status, and almost equal to a Balkan warlord?
Hitler would have been more likeable than Bush.
Watch Blair live at Chilcot and subject him to the ‘lie detector test’ courtesy of The Telegraph:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/7072427/Watch-Tony-Blair-live-at-Iraq-war-inquiry.html
No lie detector on the BBC feed.
I am shocked!
It’s 09h56 and he still hasn’t answered any of the questions thus far. He’s just making his points in his way to support his absolute innocence.
Typical lawyer…
He is trying to take over the proceedings like Campbell did last week and the panel are allowing him to. What a farce.
How come out of five people on the Chilcot panel two of them are hard-line, pro-Iraq war, pro-Blair, pro-Israel, Jewish historians? (Gilbert and Freedman)
Wouldn’t any reasonable person assume that they are likely to be extremely biased from the outset or is that why they were appointed to the panel along with establishment stooge Chilcot himself?
Surely it’s no surprise when:
Mandelson (effectively the PM) = Jewish
Straw (Justice Minister) = Jewish
Miliband D. (Foreign Secretary) = Jewish
Miliband E. (Energy Secretary ) = Jewish
Bercow (Speaker) = Jewish
G.Brown (effectively unemployed) = very strong Jewish sympathiser following indoctrination by his father
Blackburn has a big Muslim vote.
Straw is a Jew that helped to invade two Muslim nations.
They still elected him in 2005.
How the fuck does that work?
Lucky for Straw he’s not bl*ck or a woman. Otherwise George Galloway would have stood against him.
And won.
Many will be on benefits. Why bite the hand that feeds you?
They’ll boot him out when it suits them.
If you see blame in a simple statement it suggests you feel guilty or are up to no good.
Fuck off Nick you Belgian cocksucker
Obviously the truth hurts
Not forgetting Bliar’s Jewish upbringing too.
There’s no need to “round them up” as you suggest. They usually congregate naturally so you can just throw a net over them.
bang on the button kl
I’m amazed your post wasn’t pulled.
They are trying to fulfill the prophecy in the bible.
Someone better tell them it is just a fairytale. Analogies of the human condition, not prophecies.
God is not an estate agent.
The big problem is those on the Chilcot bench are much too soft to have any effect on an established and well practised liar like Blair. He has the charm of a con man and I cannot see any of the Chilcot members being tough enough to expose him for what he really is – a deceitful, mendacious grinning cuunt.
It’s not that the panel aren’t ‘tough’ enough, it’s that they’re already biased in favour of Blair and of the Iraq war. It’s a whitewash.
Well, from what I’ve seen of them, especially when interviewing Campbell, I maintain they are not tough enough.
“Anti-war left”????? What on earth makes you think the anti-war has got anything to do with the left? You either believe the lies or you don’t. It’s got nothing to do with being left or right.
10.02 – the Tories put out a paper saying we had to act on Saddam
-it was Thatcher!
They weren ‘t stupid enough to do anything about it though.
At least seeing an articulate Tony Blair on the TV shows the Labour crowd what a foolish mistake it was replacing him with Brown
There’s no point being articulate if you’ve got nothing to say except lying self-justification. The most ridiculous part of his performance is the false pauses/hesitations that he insets in a hammy attempt to sound sincere.
Looks like its is time for one of Blair’s other arrangements to be looked at: Warm Front and eaga. Using Government money to lead ones way into a contract and then do additional work not covered under the grant. Nice way to create a single supplier.
For fucks sake,where is that suicide bomber I sent to the Chilcot inquiry.
Just can’t get them these days
10:14 Iraq Inquiry, Bliar backtracks on Fern Britain interview.
He just tried to re-write the interview. I think by the end of the day there may be chinks in the smooth talker’s armour.
A prepared lie on the Fern Britton interview there. Bad Al Campbell earned his silver coin there….
I’m watching ,looking and learning from my idol,Tony Blair.
I have a long way to go and lessond need to be learned by me
I would hope the real Dc would be focussing on the challenges to come and not this washed up ex PM and looking beyond the soon to be washed up PM II.
Cameroons will look on misty-eyed as the maestro shows how it is done.
Says it all, really.
*barf*
Still hate Brown more than Blair
O/T – these statistics (at the end of the article) say it all:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/7094087/BBC-does-not-know-how-much-it-spends-on-events-NAO-report-finds.html
The BBC – wasting your money, it’s what we do.
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Cost of Champagne after 1997 Labour election victory – Priceless
He’s working the old magic right now. Listening to him you begin to think, ‘You know what, he’s right. Saddam was a bad man. And there was a lot of terrorists. I bet they could have had WMD if they really wanted to…’
Brown must be crying tears of despair, knowing his leaden,shifty,uncomortable,unconvincing performance will have to follow this sharp,personable,professional cammanding one from the Maestro.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the enquiry didn’t give him a standing ovation at the end, clapping and cheering as he leaves the building,smiling that cool hand Luke smile.
Thanks for that. I cannot even stomach watching the grinning cuunt for more than a few seconds. He brings such anger into me that I will finsih up putting my foot through the telly.
“I cannot even stomach watching the grinning cuunt for more than a few seconds.”
I admire your fortitude and your cast-iron stomach PP – for me it’s all about keeping the TV and radio off today in the hope that I can somehow escape his gut-wrenching lies.
He might be working the ‘old magic’ on you but then you’re easily impressed. He comes across as utterly repellant to me.
Quite. You start to think “yeah Saddam was a bad man” (most people knew that in the first place and it’s still no reason to invade another state)…
Then the ‘old magic’ fades when you remember Dr. Kelly was a good man and this grinning slippery monster had him murdered.
Yeah, right…
Gordon Brown: I’ve decided to announce the date of the next General Election….Friday, 29th January 2010.
He’s working the old magic right now. Listening to him you begin to think, ‘You know what, he’s right. Saddam was a bad man. And there was a lot of terrorists. I bet they could have had WMD if they really wanted to…’
Brown must be crying tears of despair, knowing his leaden,shifty,uncomfortable,unconvincing performance will have to follow this sharp,personable,professional commanding one from the Maestro.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the enquiry didn’t give him a standing ovation at the end, clapping and cheering as he leaves the building,smiling that cool hand Luke smile.
Saddam didn’t think: “I don’t like that Tony Blair and neither do most of the UK population. I think I’ll bomb the UK and force regime change”.
I’m no fan ..etc.
But he is the Bruce Forsyth of politics. Cheerily tap dancing his way through the minefield. This enquiry is trying its best, but they have no chance of laying so much as a fingernail on him.
Saddam was an enemy of the West and therefore deserved to die. Good riddance.
Blair’s crime was to fart around with the bunch of theives at the anti-West so-called United Nations instead of just getting on with it.
If people were really concerned about war crimes they would mention the clear 100%, no doubt about it at all, war crime of the invasion and destruction of Yugoslavia.
Can’t think why Yogoslavia is ignored. Oh wait, Yugoslavia was not an enemy of the West and Serbia was and is an ally of the West. That must be it.
I think that was a war crimes trial. Yes , I’m pretty sure the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia or ICTY, is a body of the United Nations (UN) established to prosecute serious crimes committed during the wars in the former Yugoslavia, and to try their alleged perpetrators. The tribunal is an ad hoc court which is located in The Hague, the Netherlands.
What’s your point?
You really ought to be an MP. No clue at all. Much of this (often pretend) outrage about Iraq revolves around the so-called illegality of it. If it was illegal to invade Iraq it was certainly illegal to invade Yugoslavia for which there was no legal justification at all.
Those UN so-called trials were an obvious example of victors justice – using bogus courts to kill people from the defeated side whilst entirely ignoring the blatant illegality of the aggressive war against Yugoslavia.
Only in falling-to-pieces Britain do we have the group think of commie lawyers venting bollocks about political acts they don’t like while ignoring the same, or worse, for actions they do like. Hypocrisy of the highest order. Fortunately there are only a further few years of having to put up with our rotten ruling class before they are arrested and killed.
The West was quite happy as long as Saddam was keping the Iranians at bay in the war with Iran. It was only when he turned his attentions to Kuwait that he became a problem. Iraq needed a strong leader/dictator to hold it together and act as a bulwark to Iran. Now look at the mess we have created in the region
Blair’s fans are always going on about his ‘charm’. There’s no charm on display that I can see – just a third-rate ham actor who was never up to the job. He is deluded enough to believe that he can persuade us that he’s a man of worth and integrity. He insults our intelligence every time he opens his mouth.
There is a ‘charm’ about him to people who are stupid enough to trust and believe him. But the ‘charm’ is that of a conman. All good conmen have charm that’s why they are able to fool some people. Blair is a grinning, lying obscenity of a man.
How right you are. ‘Conman’ is the very word that suits him to perfection
Blair’s a lying twat and I despise him with a passion for Iraq and what he’s done to the UK over his 10 years in office. But, I have to say, I’d rather Blair be representing us overseas than the one eyed, snit gobbling, Nokia throwing Mong we have now…..
McDOOM IS A FUCKING LAUGHING STOCK.
Typo- Make that snot gobbling..
What this inquiry never really separate out is the horror of the Iraq Saddam regime and the duplicity, lies and corruption Bliar would do to get his way. They are totally separate.
Watching McBliar
Saying that Iraq was a hotbed of Millitant Islam
Fucking bollocks
Bollocks indeed. Many are now dead who woudl otherwise bve alive, Christians have been persecuted almost out of existence, and women have been intimidated back to the medieval sharia-inspired status from the relatively liberated lives they led under Saddam. It beats me why whenever people talk of burkas and Muslim fundamentalist practices, they omit to mention how far these impact on 50% of the population!
In addition the cultural heritage of Iraq – common to all mankind and of the utmost importance to our collective history- has been decimated.
Dissidents were badly off under Saddam (as under any dictatorship) but almost everyone else was better off, and Iraqi society was relatively liberal by Middle East standards. A lot of people have beome very rich from the war (Blair included – would he worth much on the US lecture circuit or to big international companies without the war?)
nice tan tony
What strikes me is the essential vanity of the man – the tan is just the ouward manifestation of his huge intellectual vanity and the corrupting effect that has on intelligent decision-making. You only have to look at that old photo of Bush and Blair walking about with hands in pockets and elbows stuck out like John Wayne to recognise how vain he is.
Nice to see that another person noted that.
Two tall but small men trying to live up to their roles
Swagger and nothing else other than evil and insecurity.
Odd that both bush and Blair look like chimps, another species of shit flinging, shit eating nasty pieces of work.
In the immortal words of Charlton Heston “Gets your hands off me you damn dirty apes”
It’s commonly known that he suffers a lot from bad breath though. I think that’s why Cherie has such a big mouth, she’s forever trying to take in fresh air.
I thought it was just the sideways direction of “sausages”.
Yes- hilarious photo of Bush – looked like he had a couple of rods sticking his arms out.
And above all else – the image Bliar gave of being totally in awe and obedience of Bush.
Typical Labour crony – pretends to be unimpressed,but actually the most snobbish of them all.
Someone should launch a board game along the lines of ‘Cut off Blair’s Balls’ or ‘Lynch Blair the lying Hunt’. The rules would change half way through.
Do you think Mattel would be interested? Should I get a patent?
I would rather play Hangman with Bliar – for real.
The slipping out of bad news has started, Iain Dale posts a NHS notice of a HUGE increase in patient wating times. GOV MAXIM A good day to bury bad news.
I bet this lying shyster will have to change his shirt at lunchtime – it’s running with both sweat and the blood of our soldiers.
Doesn’t Blair’s performance just remind you how bad Brown’s is. Irrespective of the ‘truth’ in the Iraq matter, Blair is streets ahead of any of the present incumbents of Westminster in terms of appearance etc. Pure, high quality, sophistry.
Its true the Brown and the current cabinet are laughably inadequate. Timmy Mallet would be better as Prime Minister than Gordon Brown. But Blair is a billion times worse than any of them because he’s so dishonest and untrustworthy and self-delusional.
and that, my friend, is what suckered in so many people who would not otherwise have voted Labour
nothing but smarm, spin and vacuous grins… covering up the rank incompetence and evil
The “One Minute Delay” is active in order that the Beeb can bleep out any comments from Bliar like “I am a war criminal” or “My kids wrote the Dodgy Dossier”.
We will be invading ourselves soon for regime change of an odious, dangerous Dictator
One day Anthony Charles Lynton Blair will have to answer to God. This would be a good day to practice telling the truth Mr. Blar. There are no second chances. All those dead and for what?
If Saddam had WMD why did you not then equip Her Majesty’s Armed Forces with CBW and anti radiation suits? I think we should be told. WHERE IS HANS BLIX when we need him?
The Roman Catholic Church should hang their heads in shame for giving sanction to this man’s conscience – no doubt forgiving his sins.
But Arthur, what if Blair THINKS he is telling the truth? Some of the most dangerous people I have met over the years are those filled with self-delusion.
looks like Blair has plenty of notes , pound notes that is .
oh dear who thought nudge theory should become the new new again ! I thought it had succesfully been debunked as leading to vapid and lite personalites that only disscus x factor .
who guards the guards eh !
At some point is someone going to challenge him on the bollocks which seems to underpin his every comment:
9/11 = got to deal with Islamic fundamentalist terror = invade Iraq
The most basic of analysis would have concluded that invading Iraq would lead to greater terrorism, and the intelligence services warned it would be so. And it was so.
He committed to be there militarily if the UN route failed. The UN route was working at the point we invaded, as Mr Blix said at the time and will testify to the inquiry. It will be interesting to see, later today, how Blair deals with this point.
When I was at school there were some very hard lads. Someone I knew mated about with them from time to time. He had to go along with their rather dull witted and violent fun, no questions asked, to stay mates with them.
Re: Rexel 56: ‘as Mr Blix said at the time and will testify to the inquiry’
I was under the impression that there are no plans to call Hans Blix to the enquiry, in the same way the enquiry does not require participants to take the oath.
Well he is the Messiah.
And whilst he’s been a naughty boy, he was doing God’s work.
What a shiite.
Nothing will come of Chilcott.
Teflon Tony will swat away any presumptious questions and will stall.
By comparison Ali Campbell will be a model of co-operation and modesty.
Because as we all know Saddam was behind 9/11
Lying fuckwit
Brown lies and cheats and everybody hates him.
Blair lies and cheats yet somehow seems to (just about) get away with it.
It’s all in the presentation.
Your right. Hiltler was brilliant at it.
As the questioning gets hotter Blair’s body language gets more animated – just like the description of Squealer in Animal Farm.
I wish that the committee included a shit hot libel lawyer – they’re dangerous animals!
Wrong.
Blair’s reputation will improve. The bloke is an arsehole, but like many bum-ventilants he is a class act. He is steering a clear and consistent legal line and is well-briefed: no fly-zones on our Tony.
Also don’t forget that even before today, Blair was only blamed for the consequences of the War by 30% of voters.
The problem with Chilcot is that it’s asking all the wrong questions – as a result of its narrow remit – and has a panel ranging from pompous ex-diplomats to dead sheep….thanks to the One-Eyed Trouser Snake.
If Sir Martin Gilbert is getting paid for this, I want my money back.
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http://cyberboris.wordpress.com/2010/01/28/judgment-day-2/
Judgment Day. Tony Blair smarms his way through the obsequious questioning of the Chilcot Inquiry. He looks so different! Who is his plastic surgeon?
“Who is his plastic surgeon?”
Reply Cling film.
It is the wavy hands thingy going on.
Lying like a cheap rug.
When watching this awful conman, please spare a thought for those of us in Durham who had to put up with him and his bullshit for years before he floated turd-like to the top of Labour.
A friend of mine once took a publicity hungry young Blair for a ride in his microlight as a photo opp for the local media. To this day he regrets not pushing the fucker out at 1500 ft.
http://www.thinq.co.uk/news/2010/1/29/snoops-cctv-streaming-website-investigated/
in other news
Baroness Parashar was given her first job under Labour a few months after they came to power in 1997. Tony Blair gave her her peerage. Why does he constantly address her as “Baroness” as though he doesn’t know her very well?
My granny could do a better job than this wishy-washy lot – Bliar isn’t feeling uncomfortable at all, but he should!
Sir Martin Gilbert is on record as saying Tony Blair can be favourably compared with Churchill. I wouldn’t be surprised if Tony Blair was personally responsible for choosing this panel.
Randolph Churchill? Churchill the insurance dog?
The insurance dog is more trusted than this shyster.
Presumably he meant the nodding dog.
This would be the same Sir Martin quoted in the press as being an admirer of the Weasel ?
Tony Blair gave Sir Lawrence Freedman the job of writing the official history of the Falklands War – the most boring, turgid, unreadable official history in the history of official histories. He has been given numerous jobs by Tony Blair and he has provided the content for Blair speeches. Blair also gave him his knighthood.
And Blair is the man that thousands of left-wing trade unionists voted overwheling for in those early days of New Labour. How they must be squirming in their seats as they watch this tanned lying millionaire smarm his way through easy questions from a bunch of sycophants.
And there’s no oath so he doesn’t even have to say his hail marys afterwards.
Let’s not forget that NeoConservative peabrain Dubya was behind all this and Bliar was just his eager little legshagging poodle
Sir Lawrence:
“Let’s cut to chase please Mr Blair, please stop waffling and conducting a self-promoting sales presentation.
Please answer this question directly, yes or no !
Can I have your autograph please ? “
Sir Martin:
Have I ever told you I think you are a marvellous human being Mr Blair, your graciousness? Oh, yes. I see I have. Many times.
Already have – see NHS waiting time stats.
Hi! – Trust me!! I’m a straight kinda guy!
I’m the Star of the Show – as always!
It’s costing a quarter of million to protect me – but Hey, – I’m worf it!
And hey – here’s a riddle: we’re paying for the only UK growf industry there is now – either paying them off or paying to head them off. What can that industry be?
Now remember – you probably voted for me!
So don’t forget to vote for the rump of Noo_Lie_Bore in Spring!
Probably voted for me?
Probably not.
35.2% of 61.4% is 21.6%
unintelligible rubbish
Can anyone else hear what sounds like audience participation in the background?
Just the quiet tinkle of scales falling from their eyes
Blair to Putin, on the existence of WMD: “that’s for the UN inspectors to find out”.
Ouch!
Meanwehile *we* are not permitted to ‘find out’ what really happened to Dr David Kelly, since Hutton himself directed that the papers from hsi enquiry into the inspector’s death were to be sealed for 70 years – on what legal gorunds he did this remain obscure
wmd was a threat, so why were there reports of NBC equipment shortages?
cock up/ foul up?
no wmd?
brown sold them off to specialist “cough” shops?
brown wouldn’ t sanction orders?
mod couldn’t supply piss up in a brewery?
press stories made up?
Yes I remember very clearly the day after the invasion BBC film of a troop breaking into a warehouse supposedly stuffed full of biological WMD — in their shirtsleeves — and wondering why they weren’t in NBC suits.
They were either very brave men or they knew that it was all bollocks from Day 1.
He’s paid all that cash to an acting coach and all they’ve succeeded in doing is to make him into an insincere hammy actor.
We should get the guys in from “Lie To Me” – Tim Roth can have a special position right bang in front of Bliar;
“He’s lying he’s lying….it would be easier for me to tell you when he is NOT lying”
If Dr David Kelly were still alive I’m sure he would be called to tell us that Tony Blair is talking utter crap about Iraq/nuclear weapons.
He really is a lying Hunt, isn’t he? Just watch his body language when he’s asked a tough question: it screams “liar” very clearly.
11.56 “the risk of him reconstituting his programmes of WMD”
WTF – what happened to 45 minutes?
Classic line during one of Bliar’s tortuous answers inserted without notice or comment by panel or in Laura Kuennsberg’s “tweets” “……… I think it’s important for political leaders to listen to people !” Bloody hell is he ‘avin’ a laff or what ?
One of the Chilcot panel, Martin Gilbert, praises Gordon Brown just a few weeks before Brown is supposed to appear before them…..
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article7006269.ece
If Israel wants war then who am I to refuse them?
Look at the state of TB’s hand.
That’ll be the last time he presses the flesh with jonah.
Trust a liar like Blair to join a religious organisation that has its roots in mendacity and deceit. He must feel quite at home.
There’s always a lighter side to this man’s performances.
http://cazzyjones.blogspot.com/2010/01/weekend-is-here-tony-blair-and.html
Blair seems under the impression that someone has voted him President of the World and that he has the right to tell any country he chooses how they should behave and who they can have as head of state. Its time to call the men in white coats.
Blair has just outrageously argued that the invasion was justified because Saddam might have been a threat in the future. On that basis we better bomb most of the rest of the world now. Quick. I think there’s a word for it. Paranoia.
I’m going to reply to myself: it’s outrageous. I’m going to have to switch off.
“Sometimes it is important not to ask the “March 2003 question” but the “2010 question”, Mr Blair says. It is at least arguable that Saddam was a threat and if he had been left in place for several more years, with oil at $100 a barrel, he would have had the intent and the means to act, and the UK and its allies would have “lost our nerve”
Ah… so it was about oil all along.
Not to mention oil only costs $100 a barrel as a direct result of the war you prosecuted — remind me, what business was the Bush family in? And would it be better for the family business for oil to be cheap or much more expensive?
What’s happened to Blair’s voice? It sounds weird. I just heard a clip of him speaking at Chilcot and at first I thought it was a woman speaking.
He’s caught the unctuous tones of Prince Charles – it’s part of the Royal act
Chilcot Inquiry = Blair which lies Project
Summary of Chilcot so far:
CHILCOT. Yes or no?
BLIAR. In a sense, as it were, if you like, it could perhaps possibly be to some extent inferred by those ostensibly tending to lean towards that apparent suggested inference, on the general balance and on the basis of the perceived evidence thought by some to be generally available around that time and, all things considered in the round, the generality of the preliminary tentative superficial and partial aspects of the………….
CHILCOT. Shut the fuck up.
If fat Faulkner says ‘Its absolutely right!’ one more time I will punch him, and that is absolutely wrong.
Tony Blair says he prefers the conclusions of the Iraq Survey Group (set up by the Pentagon/CIA) to the UN/Hans Blix survey. But the head of the ISG, David Kay, resigned because he had concluded that the WMDs didn’t exist.
Quick, bring in Fern Britton. The inquiry desperately needs someone who knows how to ask tough questions.
Can someone please stop Blair rambling on about 9/11?
His strategy is:
1. Spend 70% of the time rambling on about 9/11
2. 45 minutes, pretend to be blonde on the difference of tactical verses strategic weapon
3. Blame the Intelligence for being ropey (its always fcuking ropey!)
4. Wave hands around and hypnotise the audience (this normally works)
One almighty charade. it’ll only highlight we can’t trust Labour politicians, just how can Chilcot run an inquiry without all documents and notes?
I do wish Brown would stop using the word transparent its making him look a even bigger dumb ass.
You all won’t know the truth and the lies, we can only assume them no doubt blaming other people needlessly along the way.
One thing puzzles me, if there were any war crimes why has UN not spoken out or any other country for that matter, why didn’yt they lodge a complaint?
With this deceiving bunch that’s called Labour we’ll never know the truth, thats why Chilcot and his team are a waste of space…. and money!
Blair’s excuse – I did what I thought was right in my judgment and never mind what anyone else thought – could equally well be used by the 9/11 bombers, Robert Mugabe, Adolph Hitler and Saddam Hussein.
They never laid a glove on me once. All plain sailing now I think until 5pm
A bit of a dicey moment when they asked meabout Goldsmith’s advice and legaility issue and again when I made a slip up and said “Remove Saddam’s Regime” instead od “Remove Saddam’s WMD” but nobody noticed I think ?
Blair is giving the panel a fucking lecture now. Behaving like he’s still fucking PM.
And they’ve bought his tactic by engaging him in a debate now…morons!
I didn’t fully realise till today what an absolute farce the Chilcot enquiry is. This shameful travesty of an enquiry is being broadcast worldwide. You’re right that he’s delivering lectures now – but in a patronising Blue Peter delivery as if he’s speaking to the intellectually challenged.
Yes, what a farce.
Oh well, we will just have to have anothe Inquiry but this time with testimony given under oath.
If the panel are going to be as pathetic in their questioning Brown as they have been with Blair I can’t think why they want to bother.
BLAIR’S SOUL BELONGS TO ME.
I PLAY THE LONG GAME, LET HIM SPEND HIS MILLIONS AND EVADE JUSTICE ON EARTH.
MOTHERFUCKER’S GONNA BURN IN HELL FOR ETERNITY.
HE IS MY BITCH NOW.
My God thousands have died many of them not combatants & he has no regrets. I hope the bastard dies of a heart attack ……… soon
Yes, that was a particularly choice and callous comment by the remorseless psychopath blair. Nice for the families of dead soldiers and Iraqis to hear that their lives were so meaningless that Blair didn’t have any regrets whatsoever. Truly evil and dangerous man who couldn’t resist beating the drum for war yet again.
I think we should have left Saddam and his two (football loving) sons alone after their invasion of Kuwait. Then after he had conquered the middle east we could just have bought all the oil off him, and he could be keeping Iran in check at the same time.
What world saviours we lost by letting Blair and Bush go in and murder the best three people to come out of Iraq
Ther are alot of anti-war people on this site.
If only the government had put on the telly the captured videos of interigations that were carried out by the Iraqi secuity police, what a difference they would have made.
I would have put them on public view. Yes, you monkeys would be upset, seeing the real world in all it’s horror. But fuck you. I say. Grow up.
Agreed the Iraqi regime were psychopathic torturers and utterly despicable.
That doesn’t give us the right to invade their country and kill civilians on a whim. If there, why not depose Mugube, a dictator for whom we do have some responsibility as we put him in power? And who is bankrupting and killing our own kith and kin as well as his own?
This is the way to do it
Blair is not my creed at all. However you cannot hang one person for this. We were and still are governed by a parliament. Hindsight is a wonderful thing to use x years later. If the Cabinet, the Tories, Campbell and the Liberals felt so against it at the time, we would not have gone to war. Were our politicians so unable to think for themselves they could not question the evidence? Looking at the pickle of today’s parliament, no wonder they did not have the backbone to send us to war on the right foot. Can it really be only Robin Cook that thought this might not be quite right.
It is dangerous ground to hang a PM out to dry in a parliamentary democracy. It sets an extremely dangerous precedent going forward. If Blair believed the course of action correct, then Parliament should debate the outcome. They did and we went to war.
Bliar’s Chilcot performance proved beyond doubt he is a messianic narcissist trying to change the World. He failed to resuscitate his reputation for good judgement and history’s prognosis will be fatal to his reputation.
Are Chilcott and Geoffrey Howe related?
I think the comments on this prove what Guido says in the original article: ‘a superbowl of self-justification’ as well as yet another opportunity for people to vent splenetic and mindless self-indulgent moral outrage.
This was not a moral crime it was a failure of governance:
http://www.charliebeckett.org/?p=2434
cheers
Charlie Beckett
One talent Tony Blair used to have was to be able to gauge the mood of the country and respond to it. This is a talent he has clearly lost forever.
http://cyberboris.wordpress.com/2010/01/28/judgment-day-2/
Entirely predicted bravura performance in usual deft parlance with no revelations whatsoever..purely damage mitigation and repetition. An
expression of sincere sorrow for the loss of life was conspicuously
absent which is unlike the soundbite Blair we know
Blair – Je ne regrette rien
“The art of leadership is saying no, not yes. It is very easy to say yes.” – Tony Blair