January 24th, 2010

Sunday Sleaze

Sunday Sleaze

David Chaytor, the soon to be former MP for Bury North, drew up a tenancy agreement with his daughter but disguised their relationship by giving her middle name as her surname.  That is deception.  That cannot be spun as an over-sight in the way he is trying to make out that continuing to claim for a phantom mortgage was an over-sight.  Chaytor claims his mother  was sick, he was so busy he didn’t notice the mortgage was paid off, the dog ate his conscience etc.

The Sunday Times reveals that Chaytor

“claimed that he was renting his flat from a woman he called Sarah Rastrick. These are the first names of his daughter Sarah Rastrick Chaytor, who had recently graduated from university when the arrangement started.”

We already knew that Chaytor had also used the name Sarah Rastrick when paying his daughter £5,000 from his Commons office allowances for research while she was a student.  Using his daughter’s name to commit fraud is particularly low.  Guido thinks there is a good chance that Chaytor will go to jail.  Rightly so…

pork-spotlight

The semi-official LibDem policy of exploiting the expenses system for political rather than personal gain is looking likely to become a campaign issue.  This is in some ways a more insidious form of sleaze.  There is circumstantial evidence that Hampshire’s LibDem MPs; Sandra Gidley, Mike Hancock, Christopher Huhne and the retiring Mark Oaten have manipulated the Communications Allowance to save their party spending some £17,000 on envelope stuffing machines, which they claim are not used for political communications.

LibDem MPs like Sarah Teather have subsidised their constituency offices out of public funds for partisan purposes.  She like many LibDems candidates uses an unincorporated association (controlled by LibDem activists) which publishes no accounts to produce her party literature.  The not unfounded suspicion is that this is effectively a slush fund used to gouge the taxpayer at inflated costs for ‘official’ literature which subsidises the printing of unofficial party leaflets. These are not isolated cases, Cowley Street advises MPs to be “imaginative” in exploiting “grey areas”.  They are still ripping off the taxpayer just as much as David Chaytor.


793 Comments

  1. 1
    Big Brother's sister says:

    Day off today

    • 18
      Porkbusters says:

      deception is deception
      whether it’s fraudulently claiming for more money than you should have or fraudulently claiming a second mortgage that isn’t your primary residence

      every single expenses thieving piggy should be jailed

      the taxpayer doesn’t get allowed ‘oversights’ in fraud

      • 31
        Maladroit Labour Chump says:

        Make him pay every penny back.

        • 60
          Todger says:

          Hardly the point, is it? The old Baily does not tell convicted criminals to pay it back, it slams them up for a long time.

          Too many of these troughers have got of lightly because they are MP’s.

          • Snotsicle says:

            Quite. Pay back every penny, a considerable financial penalty and serve time in jail with a criminal record when he comes out.

          • Sarah Tweet says:

            ‘Yesterday I travelled to Sussex, Surrey, Essex and Bucks’.

            But I did not not travel to Kent for a ‘British Roast’.

            Tweet Tweet

          • Dave gives not a shit for what happend to Dr Kelly or his widowed wife. says:

            Dr Kellys death covered up for 70 years and Guido comes out with this crap!

            So, NWO/EU Dave, will you release the papers?

            Or are you another Bilderberg puppet like Fat Ken, Osbore, mould, standing ovation Phoney, Mandy, balls up and doom?

            Mmmmm, I think we know the answer, heh!

            Dave gives not a shit for what happend to Dr Kelly or his widowed wife.

          • Why don’t you start a blog?

          • Me says:

            Too busy.

        • 65

          at least we have a hot Muslim babe replacing him in Bury North. Pictures here

          http://londonmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/01/mariam-khan-campaigning-in-bury-north.html

          • Steve Expat says:

            Totty watch!

            On topic, why is Chaytor not in prison? By any measure this guy is simply a fraudster. He should be spending the next few years looking at the inside of a cell, and should pay every penny back to the State from which he stole it.

          • John Smith says:

            I refer the right honorable posters to the fact thta in the early sixties an MP was suspended for giving a staff member a first class train ticket to Pontyprid to which they were not entitled.

          • concrete pump says:

            Each to their own.

          • click says:

            LM,
            She looks remarkably unbruised or is that the makeup?

          • GORDON McBUST(and his amazing magic cheque book) says:

            Yes she will be squeeky clean just like Malik and Vaz

          • just wondrin says:

            Will she be marrying a white bloke?

            Or will she stay within her own cultural ghetto?

          • Shakers fan, Bury says:

            The fact this lady is Muslim should not come into the equation….she was appointed from an all female shortlst – hardly Democratic is it? I want my local MP to be the best person for the job not some sop to appeal to the Asian vote or the Feminist vote. I also want someone from the local area, not just someone outsider who had probably never heard of Bury before being selected for the shortlist….would she be considered a “good Muslim”? She hasn’t appeared in any photo’s in a Burka or Hijab or even a Niqab (apologies of the spelling of these words is incorrect)…would she have to walk three paces behind the male MP’s?

            BTW – Chaytor should be banged up. He’s defrauded the public purse and abused his position in public office.

          • Shakers fan, Bury says:

            Apologies. This lady is from Manchester and a City Councillor for Longsight….she’s still not local though. Surely to God (or Allah, Buddha, Jehovah, etc) we could have found someone from Bury to stand?

            When they come knocking on my door begging for my vote my first question will be…”Where are you from?” If they are not local they are not gettng my vote….

          • Stalins Organ says:

            Fabulous looking lady, bit is that a sari? Hardly Islami dress.

        • 84
          SUNLIGHT CENTRE TO THE RESCUE says:

          DEAR GUIDO

          Please submit Sunlight Centre complaints about Sarah Teather et al to the parliamentary standards people!

          We need to shame them, as much for their utter hypocrisy, as for their troughing.

        • 727
          Nick2 says:

          Do you really think that embezzling MPs will spend hard time in prison? Remember that ‘Lord’ Ahmed spent 16 days in OPEN prison for killing someone!

          I’d be delighted to see 300+ MPs in Pentonville/Holloway for their crimes – but IMO it ain’t gonna happen. For one thing all major parties are implicated – for that reason no successor administration is likely to punish the guilty.

        • 757
          Lion of England says:

          No take all his property,and money, then put him in inside,at best in solitary.He is just annuther
          theiff.

      • 33
        Mr Ned says:

        Agreed. Which party they were in is irrelevant, what position they held in the hierarchy is irrelevant. Fraud is fraud, whoever commits it.

        Send the bastards to jail, do not pass go, do not collect 200 pounds. Lock them up and throw away the key.

        • 421
          Anonymous says:

          Mr. Ned. The problem is there aren’t enough prison places available to put them in even if the unlikely event of prosecutions occuring & trial verdicts of guilty ensued.

          • Gormless Clown says:

            Tories talking about bringing back prison ships. You must be able to find 600 spaces on one of those.

          • Anonymous says:

            Why don’t we get them to tidy up our motorway verges? Or scrape chewing gum off our pavements? I could think of hundreds of mind-numbingly tedious jobs that these shysters are over-qualified for.

            …and I’d make them wear pink jumpsuits too. With a big label on the back which reads “Scumbag at Work. Not Wasting Your Taxes. Priceless.”

          • Nick2 says:

            Well, having watched ‘Survivors’ (1977) today, might I suggest staking them out on the ground & leaving them for wild dogs?

      • 335
        fortuneteller says:

        Fraud, pure and simple. Charges should be brought now. Sadly, the old tea leaves (PG not MP) point to more prevarication, lies and obfustication

    • 44
      La' says:

      Hope theyre not too kind on you in Strangeways, Chaytor

    • 47
      Viewer says:

      I just can’t believe that Sarah Teather is corrupt. I saw her on Question Time and she came across as sound as a pound.

    • 58
      Bungling Bob says:

      So Bungling Bob lets slip that the election is 6th May.

      No doubt Gordon is throwing Nokias and printers around his bunker at this very Moment. Target practice for when he meets up with Bungling Bob.

      • 72
        • 273
          February 25th it is then ?? says:

          As it’s Sunday afternoon and bucketting down outside here’s Election Date Theory No 206 for consideration

          1. Brown did NOT want to give evidence to Chilcot BEFORE an election.He’s been out maneuovered by Clegg to do so.As it’s been floated that he’ll give evidence in March he needs to avoid doing so somehow in a run up to an election
          2. He also needs to knock Blair off the headlines on Friday which will remind people of his , Brown’s close involvement (?) in Iraq War pre-planning
          3. Security alert status raised. Many theories why and government vague on reason citing security reasons Is this a pre-cursor to imminent election ?
          4.Tories undergoing attack in friendly media and falling back in polls over proposed family law and green taxes etc
          5. Economy statistically picking up so Brown can say we’ve weathered the worst – all thanks to ME – Brown
          6. Brown is doing better at PMQs and Cameron is not landing many blows

          So given all that what does Brown do ? Easy. He’ll seek a Dissolution this week after PMQs for Parliament to be dissolved on Friday 29th Jan(which gives time for any bills in pipeline to receive the Royal Assent) and a short 4 week campaign

          As it is then an election campaign period Brown will also of course not now be able to give evidence to Chilcott until AFTER the election(regrettable but there it is)

          You can believe it or “diss” it but it’s no more fantastical than some of the other theories doing the rounds at the moment

        • 607
          GORDON McBUST(and his amazing magic cheque book) says:

          What a fucking Idiot !
          good job the Taliban didn’t ask him where the troops are
          He wouldn’t last long under interrogation
          But will probably end up as head of MI5

      • 79
        Bouncing Bobby Ainsworth says:

        Bob’s a red herring. Or is a bloater?

      • 85
        Steve Expat says:

        Or does Ainsworthless’ “slip of the tongue” mean that we should all put March 25th in the diaries?

        • 96
          Set up Bob? says:

          Bob is not intelligent or subtle enough to produce an election red Herring date. The only way the date could be a plant to fool the Tories is if No 10 told Bob in confidence that the election will be May 6th, knowing full well that Bob would let it slip.

          • Inside Track says:

            Gordon Brown will call a snap election to wrongfoot the Tories.
            It is the only advantage left to him.
            The General Election will be held in March.

          • Gordon's favourite Butt Plug says:

            March it will be, because it makes Brown look less inert than normal. The Labour party can’t afford an extended campaign. They don’t want the Budget or budget review to be an issue. The sooner the better. It will be a pleasure to see so many MP’s be tossed onto the scrapheap of oblivion.

            Whilst I am at it. These gold plated pensions of the paper shufflers need to have their index link altered to mirror % awards for the standard pension. As we contemplate double digit inflation it will save the Tax Payers a fortune. And shares the burden with the productive sector. I hasten to add that arrangements for police where 15% of salary has been contributed should remain. In law, if there has been a non-contributory pension there cannot actually be a contract in place. It should be voided and repudiated. That would account for the clever shits at the top of the tree.

          • GORDON McBUST(and his amazing magic cheque book) says:

            I also think march !

          • Hugh Janus says:

            A Secretary of State for Defence who can’t keep his trap shut? Simply laughable.

        • 683
          Watch the Skies! says:

          You will have noticed the careful spinning of Brown’s Hagiography (look it up, peasants). The coverage so far is oF Brown as ‘victim’: of his cruel and unbending father, of the tragic sickness of his mother, of near-blinding as a result of his staunch refusal to seek treatment for an injury.

          It is an appeal to his status as underdog. Sly, evil and downright wrong.

      • 290
        Brown's a Tosser says:

        How the hell does someone like Bob Aint Worth Nothing get to be Secretary of Defence. NuLabour have run out of people it would seem. Ha, answered my own question.

      • 348
        Up sh1t creek says:

        Place your bets on there NOT being a budget before April 2010.

        I bet that a budget will be announced for the second half of March. Then Gordon Brown announces a few days later the general election date.

        This is a great thing for New Labour. Announcing the general election automatically suspends all parliamentary work, and so New Labour can avoid telling the country the exact details of a budget, what they would cut, and the tax rises they would need to make.

        The moron classes don’t care about a budget, so long as they get their benefits they don’t care.

    • 98
      the fettes/eton axis says:

      I can see nothing wrong with his actions this is just Tory propaganda churned out by eton wankers!

      • 150
        Loretto Darling says:

        Remember Harridan Harpoison went to St. Paul’s Girls’ School. That’s also a nice Public School too.

        • 324
          Harriet's my phantazy (er, night mare) says:

          An all girls school. huh?

          Harriet, where’s the equality in that luv?

          • Oh there’s plenty of equality at St Paul’s.

            If Cousin Remittance’s circle of Upper Sixth freinds was anything to go by, back in the late 80′s the place was more multi-cultural than the UN.

      • 186
        Half eyed Scottish idiot says:

        Keep taking the pills.

      • 214
        Grumpy Old Man says:

        Of course not. At least the Lib Dems and Tory leaderships acknowledge that defrauding the Public is poor form – like fishing for trout out of season. for Blair/Brown’s “Whiter-than White” Labour Party, defrauding the Public is a Core Value and merely the fruits of political power. Even Salvatore Mundi is at it. Waiting for more on the smoking exercise book in breathless anticipation.

      • 402
        Voter from Hull (the hell hole says:

        Ainsworth attended Eton ?

    • 153

      Bob Aynswortth the labour defence numptie seemingly lert it slip that May 6th is the date for the General Election. Looking at the video again, he takes so long to get the words out that it cannot be a slip of the tongue, or in his case beer gut. It would appear to be a set piece, he has tried to learn word for word, but it fails to come over as that, so really MARCH 25 TH IS STILL IN PLAY. Also remember PLP is virtually bust and cannot fund a lengthy campaign and to kid on the Tories its May 6th will help to mop up Tory funds, waste campaigning resources….

      Chaytor should be locked up in St Stephens Tower right next to Big Ben. IMHO
      The poor sods on benefits would be hung, drawn and jailed for much less.

    • 282
      Up sh1t creek says:

      If you want to talk about fraud, let’s ask why many local councils want to have general election result counts the next day, hours after the polls would close, instead of straight away as soon as polls close.

      New Labour lining up for an “upset” just like the EU pulled off on the fraudulent Lisbon treaty vote?

    • 326
      fortuneteller says:

      Fraud pure and simple. Charges need to be brought promptly. Sadly the old tea leaves (PG not MP) point to more prevarication, lies and obfustication

    • 328
      Georgie Porgy says:

      What about the 78 TORY MP’s who diverted tax payers’ money to pay for their own parliamentary resources?

    • 656
      Edward Devoy says:

      Enjoy your day off, but when you return have a think on this, the only way to keep our MP’s on the straight and narrow, is first to get rid of the thieving parasites that now occupy Parliament, all of them.
      Secondly, subscribe to a radical new political system that would take the power from the politicians and put it where it belongs, with we the people, a system where we the people would have the ultimate sanction.
      If you think you could handle the power then check out http://www.gopetition.com “True Democracy in the UK”
      No matter which party is elected the people have the power.

    • 784

      Dickie Attenborough, “The thing is Hilts we’re planning a big show. We are going to get some people out by tunnels”

      Hilts – “What tunnels?”

      Attenborough “Channel Tunnel mainly, but we have some dummy tunnels to fool the New Labour Huns. Crossrail for one. That’s really not going anywhere. Will you help us. Its a big show we have planned.”

      Hilts – “well I’d like to help but … How many are you thinking of getting to emigrate?”

      Attenborough-”50 million.”

      Hilts-”Fifty million! You’re crazy!”

      Attenborough, “No, its all worked out.Donald Pleasance has made loads of I.D. cards up. The Labourites have made such a hash of energy policy if we just get everyone to turn on a one bar fire all the lights and CCTV cameras will go off in the brownout.”

      “But..How will you get 50 people million away?”

      Attenborough “JGM2 is going to take a boat to France with Mr Ned.
      Engineer and Caesars wife are cycling to Spain.AC1, Nell,Groucho and Sir William Waad by bus.
      The Beast and the Tuscan are catching a train to Italy.
      Barefootcontessa,Hugh Janus ,Oaten,Demetrius Nick Drew and concrete pump
      are hitch hiking to Latvia. Many more have disguised themselves in robes, veils etc. Old Holborn is going to leap the Irish sea on a motorbike. There are millions more , but you get the idea..”

      Hilts- “What about the 20 million left?”

      Attenborough – “They are all Labour supporters. Let them have the place. Will you help us? ”

      Hilts “you’re going to take 50 million overseas and Gordon will wake up and come downstairs and find everyone’s gone?”

      Attenborough- “well…yes. Many of his cabinet want to come with us, but we haven’t decided on that yet.”

      Hilts. “Ok . I’m in. Lets go”

  2. 2
    The Dirty Rat says:

    Millipede is giving Marr a ‘roughing up’ and putting him in his place – pair of useless twats.

    • 310
      Susie says:

      In a separate television interview today, David Miliband, the Foreign Secretary, reignited the row over class-war politics by accusing the Conservatives of planning “the biggest redistribution of wealth to the wealthy in two generations”.

      He said: “What do they actually stand for? Abolishing inheritance tax [CHEER], bringing back fox-hunting [CHEER] and isolating ourselves in Europe [CHEER]. That’s not what the country needs. That’s not change. That’s driving with one eye on the rear-view mirror.”

      Brackets are mine.

      • 494
        AC1 says:

        Wealth is created by those who earn it. The state only destroys wealth by extorting money from those who earned it.

      • 653
        arf says:

        “driving with one eye on the rear-view mirror”

        he’s probably fantasising about gordon

    • 330
      Up sh1t creek says:

      Miliband says let’s have change….. vote New Labour back in again for change! We’ve had enough of 13 years of New Labour’s “change” destroying everything that was right with this country, and turning it into a New Labour Commie sh1t-hole.

      Miliband says it’s worth it that 250+ of the brave British soldiers are dead for New Labour’s follies of Iraq and Afghanistan.

      • 379
        Susie says:

        The 250 dead British soldiers are for Afghanistan alone… added to 176 killed in Iraq, the Nu Labour death toll currently stands at 426 servicemen and women.

      • 514
        Andrew Marr is such a shit interviewer it's untrue: why does the cunt have his own programme? says:

        Crime is down?
        No, reported crime is down. Probably because people no longer trust the police.
        Which I suspect is due at least in part to the number of civilians the police have murdered and the lack of interest the police show in solving crime.
        Oh, and special privilege will always exist in a capitalist society.
        David Miliband is himself an example of somebody who has received special privilege. To suggest it can be eradicated is a false suggestion.
        A lie. The only way to eradicate special privilege is by eradicating capitalism.
        Is that what David and Harriet Harman is suggesting?
        And finally Miliband said there was insufficient post war planning: that is a blatant lie, we had an excellent British post-war plan.
        Why is Mr Miliband lying about that fact? What has he to hide?

        • 575
          Down with Brown! says:

          Andrew Marr is the son in law of Labour Peer Lord Ashley. He’s married to Guardian journalist Jackie Ashley, but he also has a child be his mistress, Times journalist Alice Miles. He’s part of the Labour family. The Labour government is also protecting the general public from knowing the truth of Andrew Marr’s love child.

          • MILF fancier says:

            Talking of things being hidden from the public ; there is a rumour that Anthony Charles Linton Blair (alias the treacherous wanker) was arrested for soliciting in a public toilet in 1983 and pleaded guilty . This was done under a fake name of Anthony Linton. Guido could you please find out if this is true? And publish the results anyway!!!!

      • 596
        udderly 'orrible says:

        Doesn’t Milibanana sprout such ineffable adolescent twaddle?

        He’s a teenager in one of the great offices of state, yet listen carefully to his answers, bereft of detail, no depth, no insight.

        The chump is a pathetic disgrace, an ignorant underachieving student union debater out of his depth, typical of so much of the slime that is the Liebour Parteh.

      • 605
        Technomist says:

        Sorry but there is no such thing as spare change. Get a proper job.

  3. 3
    Brown's a Tosser says:

    Marr 150 deaths in Afghanistan – wrong 250. I am not being anal about this but this it not about the price of a pint of beer, where OK if you get that wrong move on. When it is about british lives being lost you have more than an obligation to get it RIGHT. One very wrotten journalist without a clue.

    • 13
      Loreton says:

      Marr is a denier.

      • 24
        Peter Grimes says:

        Just proves what many of us have known for years – these overpaid Al JaBeeBa hacks are fucking useless!

        • 36
          Andrew Marrtian says:

          Sack the auto-cue pleb !

        • 95
          Mr Ned says:

          Facts are not the BBC’s strong points.

          They never reported on the shelf life of Iraq’s “unaccounted for” WMD, or on any of the caveats that the intelligence services were coming out with to any journalist that would listen to them. (kudos to the Independent and the Mirror circa 2002-2003 for reporting these caveats at the time)

          They keep reporting lies about climate change, they played down the CRU email/data leak, have not reported on the conflicts of interest of the head of the UN’s IPCC, or on how the IPCC fucked up about the alarmist and ridiculous claim that the Himalayan glaciers would melt away by 2035. Even the IPCC has finally admitted that there was ZERO scientific basis for that claim, and on the face of it, it was utterly ridiculous as the rate of melt was nowhere near enough to melt all the glaciers in only 25 years. It was off by an entire order of magnitude.

          They reported on WTC7 collapsing before it collapsed. That is not the worst part, but they reported on its collapse whilst it was still clearly visible in the background of the shot, AND they reported on how and why it collapsed. NIST still have not managed to explain how that building collapsed without having to suspend the laws of physics.

          Their reporting on the “swine flu” H5N1 virus was more alarmist bullshit too. It was all about getting the nation hyped up to fuck in fear of the pandemic just to raise the demand for the vaccine to mental proportions. I remember the reports that they might need troops on the streets to keep order because they thought that the demand for vaccine would be so great. However, they did not reckon on people deciding that washing their hands would be preferable to injecting thimirosol or squalene toxins. Hence the millions of vaccines being off-loaded at the moment.

          The BBC’s political and science reportage is piss poor.

          • Loreton says:

            1984 was inspired by Orwell’s experience of working for the BBC.The Corporation has always been a propaganda vehicle.

          • Anonymous says:

            To be fair you have to take into account the amount of Ccaine swilling about the Beeb.

          • Dick Tator says:

            Hmmm….state sponsored monopoly media outlet? Straight to jail for any citizen who doesn’t pay the license fee? Sounds like a great idea.

          • Anonymous says:

            The BBC’s political and science reportage is piss poor.

            Agreed, their political reporting is highly partisan and their science almost non existant. Their reporting on climate change would be better suited to the God slot. However it was not always so. I recall a rather hectoring interview with a New Labour toady on the Today program prior to the apprearance of the first dodgy dossier. It became apparent from the line of questioning, that the government was, even then, busy, and having difficulty, in fabricating evidence of WMD in Iraq, and the BBC knew it.

            How things changed when Greg Dyke and Gilligan got the sack for telling the truth. How the disgusting sychophantic lickspittle Ryder, made a grovelling apology for broadcasting what has now turned out to be the truth. Sadly, the damage is done, and will not be undone.

          • Andrew Marr should hold his head in shame and apologise to our troops for betraying their sacrifice says:

            100 soldiers’ deaths written off by Andrew Marr as if they did not matter.
            Why does Andrew Marr despise our troops so much that he is willing to lie for the government to hide the consequences of the foreign policy mistake being perpertrated by the New Labour Party?
            Why does Andrew Marr disrespect and betray our soldiers by lying about the number who have lost their lives serving our country.
            Is Andrew Marr an MI5 or MI6 spy?
            Surely that is the only explanation for him disregarding the ultimate sacrifice 100 men have made for this country.
            How many more spies like Andrew Marr are operating in the BBC?

          • Up sh1t creek says:

            Cocaine being snorted at the BBC…. it’s not called “White City” for nothing you know!

          • GORDON McBUST(and his amazing magic cheque book) says:

            They earn so much fucking money
            they can snort it by the bucket load !

        • 662
          D-503 says:

          “these overpaid Al JaBeeBa hacks are fucking useless!”

          No, it’s far worse than that.

          The lefty nonces at the BBc are deliberately changing the facts and figures to get nulabour re-elected.

          If the bbc were merely incompetent we could consider ourselves lucky.

          The bbc are the greatest threat to our freedom and democracy, that’s why the security level has been raised to “shite yerselves”.

      • 380
        Susie says:

        Write to the BBC and demand Marr apologizes in person on the 10 o’clock news… what a disgrace the BBC is.

        • 447
          BBC Spokesperson says:

          100 dead is a tragedy, 250 dead is merely a statistic.

        • 472
          Kings Heath Lad says:

          Funny never a mention 100′s of the mutilated brave chaps in Selly Oak Hospital Birmingham every month. Trust me it looks like a army camp down there, the local British Legion and support groups, are doing their best for them with reading books, sweets, toiletries etc but it could do with a injection of publicity.

          • Kings Heath Lad says:

            I should have also said what excellent work the staff of Sellyoak and the Queen Elizabeth Hospital, across the road, are doing. When the troops are injured in Afghanistan they are stabilized and put straight on a hospital plane and flown back to Britain. Their kit is left behind so these guys have nothing, so the Legion/support groups put together a welcome pack, usually some toiletries, a bar of chocolate, a reading book etc simple stuff but a great way of way of saying that some of us care. Speak to your local British Legion and I’m sure they will know what to do, a small thing to do but a great cause.

        • 772
          tat's somali boyfriend #2 says:

          I do you susie. you take my cock. tat says you have a nice tight pussy. i want to love you up.

      • 738
        Groucho says:

        Marr is a Trotskyite

    • 576
      Down with Brown! says:

      Andrew Marr = Labour’s Lord Haw-Haw.

      • 736
        Groucho says:

        Take a look at Marr’s entry on Wikipedia, paying particular attention to his political activities as a young man.
        I bet the job interview at the BBC was a walk in the park.

  4. 4
    Anonymous says:

    Anything from Welsh Assembly this morning?

  5. 5
    See no evil, hear no evil.... says:

    Cheayter can put HMP Brixton as landlord on his next claim form. The truth about this shower will only emerge after a 70 year embargo, the way things are heading.

    • 9
      Brown's a Tosser says:

      Chayter should be arrested and charged but doubt he will be and just shows how weak the authorities really are. Had this been any of us we would have been up on a charge and fearing the worst. Scumbag troughers.

      • 15
        genghiz the kahn says:

        there should have been forced be-elections once fraud was proved.

        but the big fish are treasury/cabinet ministers.

        blair makes walpole and the pelhams look like novices when it comes to the use of patronage and placemen.

    • 247
      Gordon's favourite Butt Plug says:

      The 70 year embargo can be overturned. Do I think that will ever happen? DIF.

  6. 7
    Just Askin says:

    Biography.
    ” Gordon’s mother found girl’s underwear at his digs”
    Wonder what size they were?

  7. 8
    Hugh Janus says:

    I am beginning to despair of seeing any of these cheating scum behind bars. The Political Class will, as always, look after its own, make no mistake.

    • 10
      Jeffrey Archer says:

      What about me then?

      • 22
        You can fool some of the people some of the time etc says:

        AND him

        “If it falls to me to start a fight to cut out the cancer of bent and twisted journalism in our country with the simple sword of truth and the trusty shield of British fair play, so be it. I am ready for the fight. The fight against falsehood and those who peddle it. My fight begins today. Thank you and good afternoon” – Jonathan Aitken 10 April 1995

        Jonathan Aitken was charged with perjury and perverting the course of justice, and in 1999 was jailed for 18 months

        • 78
          Anonymous says:

          And what does this show, it shows that bad though these characters were, our system of justice in those days was not so corrupted that action was avoided. Today is a different matter, there are many MP’s who SHOULD be going to jail but are unlikely to. That is the sad state of affairs we now find ourselves in.

          • Nick2 says:

            Aitken was probably the most extreme example of Tory sleaze – and went to prison for it. Fayed’s cash for question MPs (Neil Hamilton & Tim Smith) were probably the other most famous offenders. (Fayed grassed up Aitken incidentally.) The remainder of sleazy MPs in Major’s administration were implicated in extra-marital affairs.

            Compare the worst of previous Tory misbehaviour with the AVERAGE New Labour law breaking and breach of trust. MPs as a whole now appear to have (been?) corrupted (by?) the system, but the heights of ill-behaviour seem to be commanded by Blair, Brown & their appointees.

          • Miriam the perjurer says:

            Personally, I don’t believe Fayed and cash for questions. The only witnesses were Fayed and his own employees, one of whom was Princess Diana’s stepmother, Acid Reign.

            I believe Hamilton never done it. It was a huge stitch up because the Tories wouldn’t give Fayed a passport.

            Moreover, the judge who convicted Hamilton decided he’d trousered £22k. Compare that to, say, the expenses of Balls and Cooper or Kirkbride and closet Husband.

            Perhaps Labour don’t think this round of real sleaze will affect them…

        • 88
          Steve Expat says:

          So it’s only corrupt Tory MPs who seem to end up in jail?

          • BBC says:

            When Labour MPs get in a fix we always make sure the story is that the system is broken and needs reforming. Watch carefully and we’ll not even use the word Labour. Tories, on the other hand, want to privatise the NHS and leave the EU so it our human right to expose them.

    • 11
      Brown's a Tosser says:

      Agreed.

  8. 12
    ex Yard 'tec says:

    Charge him with False Accounting under the 1968 Theft Act. Easiest offence to prove; hardest to spin.

    The man is a thief.

    • 16
      Brown's a Tosser says:

      This was all known about last Summer and still no action. Seems an open and shut case based on the evidence out there and yet no action taken.

    • 17
      City of Vice says:

      Exactly. All this ‘within the rules’ and ‘it’s an oversight’ sophistry is pure bullshit. Theft is theft. Plod needs to grow some balls and start arresting MPs.

      • 75
        Todger says:

        No, no anybody can forget his daughters surname and forget that it is not she that owns the property but oneself. How can you be so unforgiving about two little slips like that. He has a nice honest face and talks like a posh person. What more could you want to demonstrate innocence.

        Just two honest mistakes in his entire life and you seek to sanction him.

        • 92
          Steve Expat says:

          You forgot about forgetting to remember that he had paid off his mortgage – everyone I know who has paid off their mortgage has had a party, it’s not something that one “forgets” has happened, is it?

          • christy says:

            To Steve Ex Pat,yeah it happened to me that,mortgage paid off and its party time.
            OT,anyone know what the rules are re timescale if the election was say May 6th,when would McBust have to ask for a dissolution,is there a legal requirement or is it a bit fluid?.

          • Anonymous says:

            I forgot my car loan was due to be paid off , but received a telephone call from a nice man at the loan company offering me a new one in its place ! How thoughtful of them.

          • Steve Expat says:

            Christy,

            By law, the campaign is 17 working days, from the Proclaimation of Disoloution

            For 6th May, this means that the election must be announced on or before Monday 12th April (Easter Monday, so most likely before, teh Queen tends to be busy at Easter!)

            http://www.parliament.uk/commons/lib/research/rp2009/RP09-044.pdf – page 13 has the details

            Steve, waiting patiently for the day his mortgage is paid off!

          • Grumpy Old Man says:

            One of HM’s duties is to hand out the Maunday Money to the worthy poor. Where the f**k is HM going to find 60,000,000+ purses of cash from?

        • 210
          Brown's a Tosser says:

          Hey Todger is that tongue firmly inbedded in your cheek!

    • 187
      Hamish Macbeth says:

      Ex yard ‘tec is right…

      But we also need a Proceeds of Crime Hearing to take apart Chaytors finances and ensure that stolen is returned to the State

    • 792
      Stalins Organ says:

      Why are ex -mates not moving on it, I know they will find it difficult to get around the illegal immigrant who is Attorney General, but still… bit of effort guys.

  9. 14
  10. 20
    Jeffrey Archer says:

    NOTW

    STIFF SENTENCE
    Prisons giving Viagra to hardened criminals

    I’ve still not used mine!!

  11. 23
  12. 25
    Madness says:

    Sky news are reporting that the details of the Dr Kelly case are to remain secret for 70 years. Shocking.

    • 29
      Brown's a Tosser says:

      It is not a secret we know the Government (NuLabour) had him silenced. Just imagine this very genuine man giving evidence to the Chilcott inquiry enough said.

      • 167
        City of Vice says:

        Why haven’t the Chilcot people probed the Kelly thing? Have they been got at? After all, they’ve mentioned Hans Blix and the dodgy dossier too. And didn’t Kelly work for us, so the government should know…

        • 235
          Batty Hattie Harmanescu says:

          They may have mentioned Blix, but have not asked him to appear. Very strange.

          • Hugh Janus says:

            Listening to Blix on R4 I was struck by his measured and objective comments. He his a highly credible expert who really knows his subject inside out. More importantly still, he is non-political. His evidence would effectively finish off Bliar and co without a shadow of a doubt (not that it would take much – we all know lies when we see them). Who better to give the definitive info on WMD than someone who spent a great deal of time and effort going through so many possible WMD sites but who never found anything at all, despite Saddam’s increasing co-operation? With no Dr Kelly to call on Blix should be the natural choice for the Chilcot enquiry. Strange, then, that they don’t appear to have the slightest interest in him.

            If this enquiry is to shake off the deep suspicion that this is just an elaborate political whitewash then they should invite him to give evidence as soon as possible – in the interview he indicated that he is willing to do so. (In fact, I thought he sounded slightly surprised that Chilcot had omitted to contact him.) Without such expert evidence the whole exercise is quite frankly meaningless. If they want the truth (and that may be a big ‘if’) then this is the man to provide it.

    • 34
      Lord Hutton. Weddings,Bar Mitzvahs and pre judged Independent Inquiries says:

      My overiding concern at all times was to protect the privacy of Dr Kelly’s family.

      • 94
        Steve Expat says:

        My overiding concern at all times was to protect the privacy of the corrupt Labour government

        Fixed that for you!

    • 48
      Loreton says:

      Something to hide.Something to fear.

      • 83
        Busted Nokia says:

        surely the government cannot get away with the 70 year gag.. could this be overturned after the next election?

        • 417
          Call me Infidel says:

          They got away with a 100 year gag on the Dunblane enquiry so I wouldn’t get your hopes up.

    • 141
      Mr Ned says:

      We need to start a campaign to get this information published.

    • 320
      Moley says:

      It joins another case that Blair has concealed from the public eye for a hundred years.

      Nothing to hide?

    • 580
      Down with Brown! says:

      The first action of the Tory government should be to re-open the case into the strange death of Dr Kelly.

      The next should be to give him a posthumous knighthood.

  13. 26
    Gordon Brown says:

    Once more Guido this is all a storm in a teacup.

    Let’s get on with blogging about policy please,something the Conservative Party have none of.

    Good Morning

    • 39
      Labour's Cabal of Inept Lost Plotters says:

      Morning, Gordon. Of course YOUR policies have been such an awesome success story…

      *****************THE GORD’S PRAYER*****************

      Our Pariah, which art in Downing Street,

      Hated be thy name.

      Thy government come,

      Our Nation’s wealth go, in 2010 as in the 1970’s.

      Give us this day our daily soundbites

      And forgive us our tirading against those who tyrannise against us

      And lead us not into another term of office,

      But deliver us from evil

      For thine is the catastrophe, the penury and the gloom

      For ever and ever. Amen.

      • 49
        Koba says:

        Nice!

        Someone should tell Gordon that ‘Ashes to Ashes’ was supposed to be a TV program about waking up in the past and was not meant to be reality.

  14. 28
    rick says:

    OT – but political sleaze none the less – I see the David Kelly post-mortem findings are to be kept secret for 70 years FFS. “Doctors accuse Lord Hutton of concealing vital information” (Daily Mail).

    Add Murder to not-so-petty theft by this scum in office.

    • 43
      T. B£iar says:

      Steady on.

    • 45
      Anonymous says:

      on that note, Isn’t it now admitted the dossier was “sexed up” with the 45min claim – so where’s the apology to Greg Dyke?

      • 295
        Brown's a Tosser says:

        In this whole affair Dyke is one who can still hold his head up.

        • 524
          Hugh Janus says:

          And don’t forget Gilligan. His story was spot-on. Pity the BBC lacked the backbone to stand up to the bully boy Campbell and his cohorts. A shameful day in their somewhat inglorious recent history…

    • 52
      Cheese Lover says:

      One extremely important case where ‘guilty until proven innocent’ must be applied by anyone with any sense.

    • 318
      City of Vice says:

      The Kelly post mortem findings to be kept secret for 70 years? Must be real dynamite there then. You’d have thought that the ‘investigative journalists’ of the dead tree press would be tripping over themselves to expose the details. I guess they don’t fancy being taken for a ‘walk in the woods’ either.

      Ah well we might as well speculate then. Here are my starters for ten.

      a) Were Kelly’s findings incompatible for the dodgy dossier?

      b) Was Kelly being compromised or blackmailed by the government and topped himself? After all know he that was being undermined.

      c) Was Kelly bumped off by the UK security services?

      d) Was Kelly bumped off by the security services of another country? Now this would be real dynamite.

      Alternative, if they don’t want us to speculate, the government can publish the findings.

      • 319
        City of Vice says:

        whoops typos – that’ll teach me to watch footy and type comments at the same time

  15. 30
    Old Nick Heavenly(real dimwit) says:

    I have a bad case of OUTRAGE FATIGUE today.

    From the Devil boys to Gordooms mercy for the innocent who bash the guilty and every thing else in between.

    Clearly Cameroon must save his policy announcements until the election is announced!

    If you let Liebore win or a hung parliament then at least you will force yourselves to emigrate to anywhere. Anywhere is better than there!

    Belgium is marvelous so please go somewhere else. One Brit moving into a small village can cause a lot of initial panic!

    • 37
      resurgemus says:

      Not as much panic as a German I would have thought.

      As the old saying goes – I quite like the Germans it’s just I’d rather they didn’t all arrive at the same time.

      • 142
        beata says:

        ….with tanks.

      • 208
        Old Nick Heavenly(real dimwit) says:

        As you say Res.

        I gave the hippy van to a german loony, it has german no plates.

        Whenever he would turn up here the tension in the street was palpable!

        I’ve banned him now, for being a twat.

        It was the same when we lived in France, when I had the van, everybody assumed that I was Kraut!

        In fact driving around Europe with german no plates reveals just how much they are adored. Friendly finger signs from overtaking motorists are common!

        The most polite phrase that I ever heard was that ‘they are special, the germans’

        • 212
          Old Nick Heavenly(real dimwit) says:

          In fact there is a puplic sign in Arlon, B, on an ancient church commemerating 2 Belge brothers who were murdered by ‘les sale Bosch’

          The dirty Bosch!

          • resurgemus says:

            Nick

            of course althouh the Belgies nod at germanophobia they can’t collaborate fast enough. I can never figure out that if they are so keen on a united Europe why they don’t just get rid of their border and take orders direct from Berlin. Or at the very least hand back the german speaking area round Eupen as a goodwill gesture.

          • Old Nick Heavenly(real dimwit) says:

            There are in fact 2 Belges, the german spe

          • Old Nick Heavenly(real dimwit) says:

            Res

            there are 3 belgian nations. the germanspeaking part near the border, the Flems in the north and down here, the frog Wallies.

            Nationality is a very complex thing around here.

            The whole of the german part that touches Lux all speak a dialect that is Franckish, as do the Burgers and the French side of the Lux border. They can all understand each other. Franckish was the European language of 500 years ago.

            The thing that you can only realise by living around here is that people have a very strong local and national identity, but at the same time the largest proportion actually have a stong sense of European-ness.

            Lorraine and the Trier, Eifel and Saarland have been french then german then french then german, etc so many times that they cannot be really sure who they are.

            That is why their local identity is so stong and no amount of federalism will change that. they have had 1000 years of it all ready.

            Here they are Ardennoise, go 5kms to the south and they are Gaumeoise!

      • 400
        Anonymous says:

        They arrived by air.
        The first known example of mass tourism that we enjoy today.Don’t know what they used to reserve the sun loungers, bet it was not their towels!

    • 73
      Batty Hattie Harmanescu says:

      Anywhere is better than there!

      Haiti? Perhaps not.

  16. 35
    George"Last of the Tory Trolls" Osborne says:

    This morning on the way to work I drove into the back of a car, at some lights, whilst not really paying attention.

    The driver got out… he was a dwarf.

    He said, “I’m not happy…”

    I replied, “Well, which one are you then?”

  17. 41
    stock excuse says:

    It was within the rules and approved by the Fees Office.

  18. 42
    mitch says:

    This just proves the Kelly suicide story is rubbish. This needs to leak and justice needs to be done

  19. 46
    miranda blair says:

    My fellow socialists. We must stick together on the matter of Dr Kelly.Some of the right wing gutter press may offer inducements to spill the the beans on Alistair,Gordon and i but please stay strong.

  20. 50
    Everyone Loves A Club says:

    Ainsworth just gave away the election date on Sky News – May 6th.

  21. 51
    Cole says:

    The Tories are notorious for using unincorporated associations for skirting round the law & hiding their fatso donors (eg Midlands Industrial Council). They’ve raised millions this way.

    • 56
      miranda blair says:

      Isnt that knwn as Chaytorism?

    • 67
      resurgemus says:

      Is MIC part of the TUC – they do a lot of research, often with a taxpayer subsidy.

    • 197
      Hamish Macbeth says:

      And Labour have been funded by the Unions – do the Unions ask their members if they mind their funds being used for political purposes???

      No thought not?

      That would after all be democracy and fair play

      • 223
        Cheese Lover says:

        Don’t forget your local ‘ethical’ Co-op, also Labour contributors.

        • 443
          Anonymous says:

          Don’t forget Sainsbury’s in the shape of Lord Sainsbury of Turdville, a big contributor to Labour.

        • 456
          Jan says:

          Talking of the Co-Op.Since the Co-op took over the local Somerfield somwhere in Hampshire the price of goods has doubled. My poor mum who is on a pension used to toddle round there but it’s now cheaper to go into town. Except she can’t as she feels overwhelmed by crowds.B………d f………..g Co-op. I suppose all their profit is given to Nu-Liebore who certainly need the money.

      • 239
        Batty Hattie Harmanescu says:

        Hamish
        do the Unions ask their members if they mind their funds being used for political purposes

        Actually, yes they do. When I was a member of a trade union it was possible to opt out of the political levy. Sadly, naive fool that I was, I did not do so, but at least I had the choice.

        • 500
          Sailor says:

          Batty.
          I also stopped paying the “Political Levy” to the labour Party through the National Union of Seamen in the 60′s, they threatened me with all sorts but I stood my ground and got it adjusted. I had to pay the Union Dues though as it was a closed shop until that went the way of the Dodo as well.

    • 206
      Bernie Ecclestone says:

      When would you like your next million?

  22. 57
    Smash Labour says:

    Rod Liddle on Radio 5 this morning ” I could never vote Tory, it would make my flesh crawl”.

    I suspect that view is held by 100% of those now working at the BBC.

    Time to kill off the BBC. If you’re a beeboid and want to be a mincing liberal, do it with your money, not mine. BBC scum (yes I know Liddle isn’t a beeboid now but he was)

    • 61
      Anonymous says:

      You’d prefer things to be like ITV?
      No thanks.

      BBC is broken like society, but broken as in needs new pistons rather than requiring scrapperagering

      • 77
        anon,anon,anon.... says:

        Keep bits of it, but give the News and Current Affairs to Channel 4

      • 111
        albacore says:

        Nice one, “scrapperagering” – sounds like an especially gruesome demise perfectly tailored for the British Broadcasting Colostomy Bag’s company of turds.

      • 191
        Smash Labour says:

        Who cares about ITV, fuck the BBC it’s full of deviants lefties and drug addicts. Fuck the lot of them, I hate them all.

        • 529
          BBC for ever says:

          It is true. Drug use at the BBCis rife.

          we had many stories of drug deaths and arrests but it probably helps the creative process.

    • 103
      Steve Expat says:

      I know that BBC bashing is popular here, but given the alternatives they are not actually that bad – look at Fox News if you want to see what would happen under a free market system.

      That doesn’t mean that the licence fee shouldn’t be cut dramatically and the remit changed to be more like PBS in the US though – genuinely impartial public service broadcasting.

      • 138
        reg says:

        I would love to see a British version of Fox News established, “just to rub the lefts noses in it.”

      • 190
        Anonymous says:

        Steve ex pat. It doesnt matter whether a UK version of Fox News arose under a free market system for the simple Fact is you wouldnt have to watch it and you certainly wouldn’t have to pay for it if you didnt like it.

        • 432
          The Admiral says:

          What’s the point in loads of free sruff if it’s all cr()p. It’s like Own Brand stuff. Cheap, but would you REALLY want to EAT it?

          I just cannot live watching ads. Ever>>>

      • 193
        Smash Labour says:

        Bollocks. Fox News simply give s platform to the non standard rent boy shagging Cocaine addled leftist view of the world. You’re not forced to pay for Fox News but you are the Bum Bandit Corporation.

        Fuck the BBC

      • 467
        Jan says:

        Every now and again Al-Jabeeba do something amazing.This for me was a two-parter which concluded last night about TE Lawrence (of Arabia).Rory Stewart who is a professor at Harvard presented a really fantastic programme. He is a brilliant historian. I long for programmes like this,instead of the utter crap and dross we get from Al-Jabeeba. From pseuds corner(Newsnight Review),to reality shows,to Holby City,Eastenders, blah blah blah. Rory Stewart is slightly eccentric himself having walked some 6,000 miles across Asia.He has been a soldier,a diplomat and a teacher. He is the best of British. Thank God we have people like him,but there are far too few of them.

    • 104
      Murdoch's Dynasty says:

      But Sky is worse.

      Full of politically correct multicultural presenters and the truly appalling Adam Boulton. How ever has he kept that job? What does he know?

      • 195
        Smash Labour says:

        Again no one forces you to pay for Sky. But you are forced to pay for the Cocaine users at TV centre.

      • 222
        Flat Earther says:

        Just watched Matthew Boulton in his Nu labor attack dog role and getting nowhere attacking Michael Gove on schools policy and then suddenly changed the subject and used an absolutely disgusting argument that the scum loosely termed parents of the appalling perpetrators of the Doncaster attack will get a boost from marriage allowances.
        Its nice to know that Boulton as well as new labour believe that every married couple living together in this country are not deserving of a level playing field in the tax regime because of this scum? what a Hunt.

        • 394
          Susie says:

          Boulton got that little piece of spin filth from Ed Balls… Balls commenting on the Edlington torturers’ parents tacked “… they were married” onto his remarks on Friday’s PM programme.

      • 390
        Balls to the Beeb says:

        You don’t have to pay for Sky. The Beeb you do. Whether you want to watch their sodding stuff or not.

        Is this concept really so difficult to grasp?

        • 436
          The Admiral says:

          Silly. Of course you pay for it. Its built into EVERY singe thing you buy.

          Advertiseing is one of the biggest on costs bar none. It’s a HUGE industry, and we just don’t need it.

          Wake up and smell the coffee. Best free ad out…

          • The Admiral says:

            typo (one of many) single

          • Smash Labour says:

            Fuck off. Only a tiny number of products are advertised on TV. How on earth do you expect products to be known to you (or don’t you ever buy anything? perhaps you’re just another fucking drug addled dole collecting chav who votes Labour?) if companies don’t advertise?

            Oh and if you object to advertising fine, lets take away the fucking huge lump sum the bummers at the Guardian get for advertising BBC and public sector jobs.

        • 477
          Jan says:

          Actually here in Hibernia we have to pay for Sky but not the BBC. We can get BBC Ulster (who have those gurning,strangulated accents) and BBC London. What I’d like to know is why they need to have different continuity people for London and all the regions. What a waste of (your)money.

          • BBC for ever says:

            is THIS the irish tolerance we’ve heard about?

            it reminds me of my days at catholic school.

          • resurgemus says:

            yes, but we need people to explain the slow demise of the Irish economy and why there will be another wave of emigration to Britain.

    • 122
      Anonymous says:

      Can you imagine the medias reaction if someone famous said “I could never vote Labour it would make my flesh crawl ” ?

      • 131
        Steve Expat says:

        I would never vote Labour, it would make my flesh crawl.

        • 159
          Mr Ned says:

          I would rather have my flesh slowly ripped from my body with a rusty cheese grater, lubricated with vinegar, than vote labour.

    • 135
      john piewalker says:

      ” I could never vote Tory, it would make my flesh crawl”.

      The irony is that Rod Liddle also makes everybody’s flesh crawl, the unwashed сunt.

    • 303
      Brown's a Tosser says:

      Liddle stands for self opinionated c*nt full of my own self imporatance. Do us a favour keep your opinins to yourself.

  23. 63
    miranda blair says:

    Fellow socialists. I have askes Mr Chilcot to ensure that any members of the Kelly family who attend the inquiry have their shoes confiscated.

  24. 66
    Dave Cameron says:

    I was at Asda yesterday, this thick fuckin chav bitch was on the check-out, face like a slapped arse and all the charisma of a jellied eel. I came to pay, I had only bought milk and bread but had no change.

    “£1.03 please”
    “Sorry this is all I’ve got,” as I handed her a £20 note.
    “Haven’t you got anything smaller, ‘cos it will take all my change, and I don’t wanna count out £18.97?” she replied and pulled a stroppy face.
    “I’ve got nothing, if that helps,” I replied…she didn’t get it so I thought fuck it, I’ll pay by card.
    “Shall I pay by card?” I asked.
    “Don’t do me no favours,” she snapped.
    I kept my cool and just put my PIN in.
    “Cash back?” she asked sarcastically.
    I couldn’t resist it… “Oh yes, £18.97 please.”

    Stupid bitch.

    • 70
      miranda blair says:

      Every little helps!

    • 105
      Anonymous says:

      Cow should be allowed to work with people.

    • 106
      Anonymous says:

      Typo “should” read “should’t”

    • 124
      A Statement From Asda says:

      Now that we, along with tesco, have globalised the food retail market, we’d just like to say tough poo! poo! thank you for your custom and we will feedback your thoughts to our customer focus steering blue sky thinking action group, C.F.S.B.S.T.A.G. for short

      • 337
        TesscoNo says:

        We’ve decided not to shop at Tesco, and so far the resolution holds despite the offers and promotions that are being sent to tempt us.

    • 130
      john piewalker says:

      You really can’t go on like this mr troll.

    • 162
      Sion Simons says:

      Hey – are you related to the real Dave Cameron?

      That would be, like, so cool if you were and you posted here. Mate. Ace. Back to the Red Box now. Hey. I just posted on Guido’s. Gordon will be chuffed. Ace.

    • 166
      Mr Ned says:

      Love it!!! well funny!

    • 291
      WTF? says:

      What the fuck were you doing shopping in Wal-Mart for?
      If you shop in a gypsy store you should not complain when you receive poor service.
      Next you will be telling us you buy your sundries in PoundSaver.
      You fucking pikey.

      • 365
        Waitrose says:

        Thank you continued support ‘WFT?’ ,your fresh quail eggs are now available for collection or shall we send our delivery boy around on his bike, lovely chap, Milliband.

    • 397
      Saving you money every day... says:

      Stroppy female check-out staff are my number one pet hate.

      Write to head office and complain like fuck.

      They hate the thought of losing customers.

  25. 68
    Batty Hattie Harmanescu says:

    The chances of this troughing scumbag being arrested, let alone convicted are minimal. Which also brings to mind the case of Harry Cohen having his £64k resetlement grant stopped because he fiddled the second home allowance.

    If there is sufficient evidence to stop this grant, why is there not sufficient evidence to charge him with pecuniary advantage by deception? Indeed, might he not argue that since he has not been charged with any criminal offence, they are not entiltled to stop the resetlement grant.

    Question is, what to do about these toughing scumbags? Spoil the ballot? I wonder, come the election will they have to courage to canvas door to door?

    • 108
      Steve Expat says:

      Any that have the guts to face the electorate again, vote for whoever has the best chance of unseating the troughing incumbent.

      The Lib Dem standing against Alan Duncan has a pretty good chance of getting the biggest swing of the whole election – unless a local anti-sleaze independent puts his name on the ballot of course.

    • 140
      rocknrolla says:

      Is Jacqboots still in line for a golden goodbye payment?

    • 179
      Pete says:

      What gets me is that Cohen will lose around 64k but they reckon he took 70K – What about paying the rest back?

  26. 71
    • 101
      Hide the Decline says:

      Pachauri was of course the spokesman at the copenhagen summit who dealt with questions on the climategate scandal simply by harping on about the “theft” of data. A bit like a thief basing his defence in court on the fact that he was “grassed up”. The BBC considered this a rebuttal. It clearly was not as he didnt deal with the issues raised at all . He did however repeat the lie that what climate gate revealed didnt amount to much and didnt change things in any way.

      So lets get this straight,according to this man ( and his acolytes) major issues concerning the fundemental data used to construct significant climate predictions are found to be manipulated or massaged and this doesnt have a bearing on said predictions !!!!

      WTF !!!

    • 127
      toby says:

      Good article. I defy anybody reading this not to conclude that a scam of epic proportions is going on.

    • 160
      Nick2 says:

      What repeatedly strikes me (as a one time science graduate) is not just the misrepresentation of scientific data and scientific objectivity, but the contempt openly shown by the man made global warming brigade for anyone who contradicts or even questions their assertions.

      • 172
        Climate panel admits glacier gaffe says:

        • 238
          Robin Mckie(Observer Science Editor) Glaciergate was a blunder but it's the sceptics who dissemble says:

          So when Green Tax Stooges lie it is a blunder but when sceptics are sceptical they are dissembling?
          What an illogical, anti-scientific, anti-moral and anti-intellectual statement to make.
          What a wanker you are Robin McKie!
          Science Editor?
          Don’t make me laugh.

      • 199
        Hide the Decline says:

        Thats because for many, Man Made Global Warming has become a religion and therefore any deviation from the received dogma is considered Heresy.
        There are many extremists out there who in other times would have been burning witches. Same old, same old.

        • 207
          Hide the Decline says:

          Its also worth remembering that Pachauri is NOT a scientist, I understand he is an economist who has stakes in many businesses heaviliy involved in climate change. He has a cheek talking about vested interests. Also at the end of this video check out the way he gazes admiringly at Gore like a love sick puppy.

    • 176
      Mr Ned says:

      The IPCC is NOT a scientific body. It is a political body that hides behind unscientific, fixed, flawed pseudo scientific alarmism. It buys whatever “scientific” alarmism it can through the political way that research grants are allocated.

      • 216
        Rajendra Pachauri - world's leading climate scientist says:

        I am a railway engineer, so I know what I am talking about.

        • 272
          Pacha, The World's foremost authority in Antropoghenic Cash says:

          Here at IPCC we accept cash, credit cards, gold bullion, diamonds, rare stamps…

          • Global Scammer says:

            Give me lots of your money or poor widdle poley bears are gonna die.

          • Cheese Sandwich says:

            Here, you can have several million pounds of gold bullion for 5p, love, Gordon.

            p.s. remember to take the tungsten out before you resell it.

        • 374
          Ungrateful Sod says:

          I heard a great radio 4 program today about global warming. Apparently its causing rain in the Sahara desert and making the edges of it more fertile but the nomads, all 20 of them, are unhappy because it threatening their traditional life style, then ‘Traditional’ nomad called up his mate on a mobile phone! can’t have your cake……etc

          • Anonymous says:

            Here it is

            The Greening of the Deserts
            Ayisha Yahya explores predictions from some scientists and meteorologists that some deserts, including the Sahara, could get greener in the future and experience more rainfall.

            This runs contrary to more usual predictions about the future of global warming in Africa that envisage more drought, floods, land degradation, epidemics and resource wars. Ayisha travels to Mali and Egypt to explore the arguments.

            http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00l5j3j

  27. 74
    Johan says:

    There are things out there worse than sleaze:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1245599/David-Kelly-post-mortem-kept-secret-70-years-doctors-accuse-Lord-Hutton-concealing-vital-information.html

    Basically a group of doctors asked for a copy of the post mortem report as they believe that the method publicly given as Dr Kelly’s method of suicide would not have led to his death. They were told no, sorry, it has been locked for 70 years.

    Political scum.

    Johan

    • 90
      Batty Hattie Harmanescu says:

      Locked for 70 years; I wonder who has, or will have the power to unlock the post mortem results in the next 70 years. Indeed, if David Kelly died in the manner claimed, what can be the argument for keeping them secret?

      First he is denied an inquest, the has his post mortem hushed up. The traitor Falconer has much to answer for.

    • 114
      Steve Expat says:

      Dave is always keen on “open government”, surely there is no reason to keep this secret – unless of course there was some sort of governmental involvement in his death.

      Every other family of suicide victims has an open inquest, why should this particular victim be treated differently – if it was a genuine suicide, of course

    • 162
      rocknrolla says:

      Pretty shocking story really, especially given the professional standing of the doctors/QCs asking for it to be released. How on earth can they justify this?

      • 225
        Batty Hattie Harmanescu says:

        How on earth can they justify this?

        I think they are trying to justify it on the gounds it would upset the family. Strange, they have never worried about the famlies of suicides up to now. Stange also, that he was, I believe, the first suicide in legal history not to have an inquest. Stanger still, that emboldened by their succes at covering up murder in the case of David Kelly, the law has, or soon will be, changed to enable inquests to held in secret.

        We have some very, very sinster people staliking the corridors of power these days. More sinister still, is the complete silence of the opposition on the subject of David Kelly. Apart from Ed Vasey’s recent attempt to re- assure everyone that there was no foul play. Her Majesty’s opposition have literally let the government get away with murder. I wonder why?

        • 302
          Anonymous says:

          Well if Cleggy wants to draw blood at the next PMQ’s he can ask a simple question – ” Why are the records of Dr David Kelly’s post mortem being kept secret for 70 years?”

        • 311
          Anonymous says:

          You make the fatal mistake in believing the Tories (and Lib Dims) are actually proper opposition parties and not just different cheeks of the same corrupt British Establishment arse.

    • 589
      Down with Brown! says:

      If the truth about Dr Kelly’s death became public no one would ever vote Labour ever again. I hope someone like Guido has a copy of the post-mortem report and is just waiting for the right time to release it.

  28. 76

    Let him pick his feet in Poughkeepsie

  29. 87
    Mitch says:

    This fees office should be running the country! they are above the law cos when an Mp steals thousands clearly illegally and they say it was ok nothing is done.

  30. 99
    TheCourtOfPublicOpinion says:

    Jail? I thought all they did when caught was issue a pretend apology and keep the loot?

  31. 100
    final salary civil servant pensioner says:

    I think you are all being so mean to ol’ Chaytorz – how could any MP be expected to know the names of all his/her children!

  32. 102
    Chapps says:

    The dirty LIB DIMS will do anything for a vote.
    CHEAT= LIE-SMEAR.

    • 152
      TheCourtOfPublicOpinion says:

      Their “turd in a trifle” policies are amazing – they’d walk it were it not for their bizarre need to give everything away to Europe.

  33. 109
    Anonymous says:

    How politics works. Start an illegal war based on faulty intelligence to divert attention from terrorist attacks resulting from intelligence failures.

    Start an inquiry to whitewash the illegal war. When inquiry threatens to reveal the truth about the illegal war, use threat of terrorism to divert attention from the inquiry…

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jan/24/iraq-chilcot-inquiry-michael-wood

    “Blair will take his place amid intense security, with mass protests expected in Westminster. Sources close to Scotland Yard said Blair’s appearance had been a major factor behind the government’s decision to raise the terror threat level from “substantial” to “severe”.”

    They really hold all the cards, don’t they ??? Faulty intelligence leads to terrorism leads to illegal war leads to terrorism leads to faulty intelligence…

    • 119
      How Politics Work Part 2 says:

      Dont forget when said war starts to go tits up create a smoke screen to divert the publics attention, maybe something like “Make poverty History”, call a couple of egotistical useful idiots from the entertainment business and hey presto Government ratings are back up again. Meanwhile over in Iraq……….

    • 169
      barefootcontessa says:

      Yes, you’re right. Scare alert? Blair alert.

    • 313
      Brown's a Tosser says:

      NuLabour – you have to complete the circle.

    • 322
      anon,anon,anon.... says:

      Next Friday would be a good day to bury bad news.

  34. 120
    Mao si Ding Dong Dung says:

    現在聆聽你白回合關注英國人 …. 如果 … 你說的開始你在中國在 uk 中做的種類的事情我們將要推擠 Google 提高你的被炸的米拳擊 .. 你理解我們我們沒有喜歡的實際的滿意這說,什麼喜歡的自由 .. 它很對我們的聲譽不利由於思想偏執的板條關注控制怪東西 ..(第 34 紅書)(以米 35 號)被警告 Goolies 去很南方如果不聆聽恰當的滿意。

    • 165
      Morse says:

      .– .- -.- . .-.

    • 170
      China Crisis says:

      The above post displays why China will never have as much influence as the British Empire.
      They don’t speak English.
      English is the most powerful language in the world and so without English being China’s first language the Chinese will fail in their attempts at world domination.
      They better ditch the dollar as well. That’s a real turkey currency and they are holding far too much of it.
      Mugs.

      • 221
        tottenham taliban says:

        Yeah, fuck off, Britain is ours.

      • 405
        Old Nick Heavenly(real dimwit) says:

        The Chinese have no desire for world domination!

        They have had civilization for long enough to understand that there are limits to empire size.

        They just want the resources and are giving the Africans their dollars as fast as they can to buy those resouces.

        China already won the ‘war’ without firing a shot!

        Maybe the conspiracy theorists could change the word bildebuggers for chinese.

        American and Brit politicians gave them their victory on a derivative plate!
        Under the counter, of course!

        Wonderful people, the Chinese!

        • 407
          Old Nick Heavenly(real dimwit) says:

          China Crisis, how many different languages do you speak?

          Around this neck of the woods it is not uncommon to speak 5 languages or more.

          Mrs H for example!

          • Old Nick Heavenly(real dimwit) says:

            Perhaps they should trade in their dollars for sterling!

            ‘chokes larfin’

            get y’self some nice euros and some of the yellow stuff!

            I told my best buddy that I would buy any chinky money that he cared to bring over with him next year.

          • Google Translator says:

            Now listen to your concern about the British White Round …. If you say … the beginning of China in the uk you have to do the kinds of things that we are going to push Google to improve your boxing rice blast .. we do not like you to understand our real satisfaction that said, What like the free .. it is very detrimental to our reputation of lath because of concern about control of paranoid thinking strange things .. (No. 34 Red Book) (35 meters) has been warned that if you do not Goolies to the very south to listen to the appropriate satisfaction.

            Thank you, Larry and Sergey.

    • 192
      Hamish Macbeth says:

      No wantons thank you….
      Any can I have an extra fried rice

    • 347
      Unsworth says:

      Yep, two portions of 27 and a 38 to take away.

  35. 121
    Norman Tebbit says:

    Britain and the EU: time for a divorce

    Churchill was right. We should wish European union well – so long as it does not seek to cross the Channel.

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/normantebbit/100023423/britain-and-the-eu-time-for-a-divorce/

  36. 125
    King Karlos says:

    I think we should send him to Porton Down:
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6999916.ece

  37. 128
    • 155
      Steve Expat says:

      Why is it that neglectful middle class parents are afforded public sympathy, whereas neglectful working class parents end up in prison?

      • 198
        Nick2 says:

        Because they were both doctors when their daughter disappeared, and there’s still a (vestigial?) deference shown by many people to ‘authority’ figures like them. Also, it’s not like they gave her cannabis laden tea or hard core porn videos, is it?

  38. 132
    barefootcontessa says:

    ot, Ainsworth lets slip election will be in May.

    • 440
      Moley says:

      That is now approximately six “slip ups” saying May, from a variety of different sources.

      I presume that this information is as truthful and genuine as their manifesto promises will be.

  39. 133
    Hu Flung That says:

    traditional translation Mao si Ding Dang Dung posting…

    Now listen you white round eyed English people….if… you start saying the sorts of things you do in the uk in china we going to shove google up your fried rice boxes..you understand us real good we no like this freedom to say what like ..it very bad for our reputation as narrow minded slat eyed control freaks..(No 34 Red Book) (with rice No 35) Be warned Goolies going very south if not listen proper good.

    • 227
      Half eyed Scottish idiot says:

      That’s the old Mandarin translation.

      The upto date Cantonese version is :-

      ” Dear Half Eyed Twat – Your debt to us is now £800 billion and you said you would start repaying it 34 weeks ago. Unless we receive the first instalment within a month we will come and chop off your goolies.

      • 519
        Riff Raff says:

        I can’t understand the mandarin.
        Have you got a tangerine version that might appeal?

  40. 136
    A Convenient Security threat. says:

    So Gordon is hosting an international Security meeting this week

    http://www.isaf.nato.int/en/article/news/security-tops-kabul-meeting-ahead-of-london-conference.html

    And Postman Johnson increases the “security” profile by raising the Terror threat level just hours before Gordon’s big day but he can’t tell us why. How convenient.

  41. 157
    The Beast of Clerkenwell says:

    Make a compalint to bury police
    The Hoons were quick enough to get me into the back of a van
    (I was innocent)
    The police are obliged to investigate all crimes

  42. 173
    we need a new cromwell says:

    saw the filmm yesterday………3 and 1/2 centuries later we still have arrogant thieving shitbags in the hoc……….the law is the law…..mps and lords who have STOLEN should have their assets seized (didnt they invent the proceeds of crime laws)? and sent to prison………..

    meanwhile the vile bastards are closing ranks as usual………
    OUR WHOLE SYSTEM IS CORRUPT!!!!!!!!!!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1245599/David-Kelly-post-mortem-kept-secret-70-years-doctors-accuse-Lord-Hutton-concealing-vital-information.html

    ‘if you’ve done nothing wrong then you have nothing to fear’……..

    so what do they fear?
    THE TRUTH NEEDS TO COME OUT……WHY IS THE ESTABLISHMENT PROTECTING HOONS LIKE BLAIR,CAMPBELL+BROWN?

    these people are SUPPOSED to prptect us-not prey on us!
    why do they seem to have a ‘divine right’ to shit on the law?

    • 205
      barefootcontessa says:

      Because they’re part of the establishment. The establishment ALWAYS has and ALWAYS will protect it’s own.

    • 241
      nell says:

      I hope that when the tories take over later in the year, cameron as PM has the power to revoke Hutton’s ruling so that a proper inquest can be convened.

      And all that ruling has done is to state unequivocably that there is something about Dr Kelly’s death that this labour government are desperate to hide.

      • 264
        the fettes/eton axis says:

        Of course he has the power; if necessary he can use his majority to change the law. Will he do it? About as likely as Brown declaring that he is English.

        • 340
          nell says:

          If Dr Kelly’s death was somehow atributable to bliar and campbell, as some of us suspect the evidence will suggest, why wouldn’t cameron do it?

          • the fettes/eton axis says:

            General political principle; don’t sick on your predeccesor in case the next PM does the same to you – and thats even more likely if they come from the same party.

          • barefootcontessa says:

            Because they’re part of the establishment. Wheels within wheels.

          • The Admiral says:

            Statue of limitations anyone?

    • 475
      Rip Van Winkle says:

      While they’re at it, the Establishment could also release the WHOLE Cullen enquiry report. Now I bet that would put the cat among the pigeons. Parts of that report have been withheld for 100 years.

  43. 174
    The Truth Of The Matter says:

    Brown keeps on telling us he lost an eye in a rugby match. What a load of bollocks.
    He lost his eye when his father beat him up for stealing womens’ knickers.
    Brown’s a knicker sniffer.

    • 178
      skid marks r'us says:

      I would have believed it if you had said mens underpants.

      • 182
        transvestites r'us says:

        The women’s knickers were stolen from a man who used to wear them.

        • 261
          the fettes/eton axis says:

          Does this have anything to do with Natalies picture of that nice boy George in stockings and suspenders?

          • Ozzy says:

            Yeah, I confess, it was me who said there would be no more boom and bust and we would be best placed to survive the recession.

    • 219
      Loreton says:

      Brown’s retinal damage was caused by heading a football when at Edinburgh University.The story is changing under scrutiny.

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1245555/Gordon-Brown-biography-delayed-election.html

      • 237
        Colonel Nut says:

        Did he head a football whilst playing rugby,showing a commitment to “diversity” even in the sporting arena, from an early age?

        • 268
          Colonel Mad says:

          Brown is a clear example of excessive masturbation provoking teenage visual impairment.The Church of Scotland was sound on this matter in the 60′s.

          • the fettes/eton axis says:

            At last a plausible explanation – since it so obviously applies as well to those poor boys who experienced the Eton fagging system.

      • 244
        nell says:

        Regardless of how he sustained that injury, truth is there are many people across the country with similar injuries and worse. Most of them, unlike gordon, don’t turn themselves into some sort of pathetic victim seeking sympathy.

        I didn’t much like blunkett but at least he never chose to turn his blindness into a disability nor did he keep drawing attention to it like gordon does!

        • 259
          the fettes/eton axis says:

          Depends what you mean by drawing attention. The occasion when he mistook Crazy Horse Beckett for a woman and groped her was fairly memorable.

        • 288
          albacore says:

          “he was forced to lie immobile for six months in a darkened hospital ward”.
          To know all is to forgive all – but in Brown’s case NOT!

      • 344
        anon,anon,anon.... says:

        Now we know why Blair liked being photographed playing ‘keepie uppie’……salt, wounds…….. tut tut.

    • 311
      Moley says:

      The Brown biography will be correctly filed by public libraries under “Fiction”.

      Along with all of Labour’s promises and manifestos.

  44. 181
    oooooer says:

    Dodgey dossiers.. 70 year post mortem releases..increased security levels…the Great Leader’s security conference…Blair at Chilcott…Brown to follow…
    Edbut..Mandy..Chayter..Cohen….if you wrote it the rejection notes would say
    ‘implausible’.

  45. 202
    the fettes/eton axis says:

    Really Guido, you should focus on the biggest troughers. If we are talking the use of the expenses system for political ends the main offenders are clearly the 78 Tory MPs who used the system to pay for the party’s “parliamentary resources unit” and the Labour MPs who diverted contracts to companies owned by Labour hacks in order to launder funds. No problem with the story but its small beer next to the 2 cases I have given.

    • 230
      Five Bellies says:

      Yeah and stop picking on me and all.

      • 253
        the fettes/eton axis says:

        Is “me ‘and all’” some sort of Geordie slang known only to the blubber boys?

        • 315
          Loreton says:

          He’s talking about Jacqui Smith,the disgraced Labour MP,rather than Gazza’s fat friend.Your stupidity and humourlessness reveal you as a Labourite.Go away from here.

          • the fettes/eton axis says:

            Oh dear – has the little boy taken offence; never mind, nanny will look after you.

          • Aide Memoire says:

            **********TWENTY HIGHEST EXPENSES CLAIMANTS**********
            ————Total claims 2005-08 (excluding travel)———–

            Liam Byrne £ 478,536 LABOUR

            Joan Ryan £ 469,893 LABOUR

            Dan Norris £ 450,985 LABOUR

            Shahid Malik £ 446,314 LABOUR

            Charlotte Atkins £ 443,244 LABOUR

            David Wilshire £ 438,377 TORY

            Tom Levitt £ 436,686 LABOUR

            Diana Johnson £ 436,632 LABOUR

            Fabian Hamilton £ 435,999 LABOUR

            Jacqui Smith £ 434,909 LABOUR

            Margaret Moran £ 434,456 LABOUR

            Ian Austin £ 434,409 LABOUR

            A. Rosindell £ 434,149 TORY

            Andrew George £ 434,062 LIBDEM

            Dawn Butler £ 433,865 LABOUR

            Roger Godsiff £ 433,298 LABOUR

            Tim Farron £ 433,260 LABOUR

            Peter Hain £ 431,905 LABOUR

            Norman Lamb £ 431,683 LIBDEM

            S. Hesford £ 431,527 LABOUR

            Source: The Sunday Times 17-05-09

          • the fettes/eton axis says:

            the thread is about the use of expense for political purposes which is not addressed by your reply.

          • Bored of the above poster- Yawn! says:

            Your arse must be really sore sitting on that picket fence all the time.
            Everybody knows you are a BN*P moron who is too ashamed to admit it because everyone would tell you to fuck off.

    • 399
      George W Osborne says:

      Help please! I’m twying to do my expenses and I’m having some teensy difficulties with my calculator. She says she wants to go home at 5 or she’ll miss the bus. Why do people have to be so ungwateful?

  46. 213
    Morgan Everett says:

    I just saw the lawyer who defended Tony Martin and Munir Hussain talking on the Politics Show. Bloody hell, no wonder they both got banged up.

  47. 218
    christy says:

    To Steve.
    Many thanks for that,hope your big mortgage day is soonest.
    Cheers.

  48. 224
    REEVO says:

    As always its his supporters, those that voted him into a job that are the biggest joke.

    Every four years or so they put up and toddle off to vote for some knob/crook or other in the pathetically facile hope that he or she will be “The One” and all the countries ills will be on the mend.

    Frankly these voting cretins need to be ripped off the more the better and perhaps after a hundred years or so they may get it through their thick skulls its their fault its happening.

  49. 226
    Lord Chilcot says:

    Please don’t get too excited, stay calm please

  50. 228
    TERROR ALERT? TELL THAT TO THE POOR AFGHANS WHOSE WEDDING ARE BOMBED BY THE US WAR CRIMINALS says:

    The terror level has been raised?
    MI5 are hearing more terrorist chatter?
    What a load of bullshit.
    The innocent Afghan civilians whose weddings are being bombed by American terrorists and whose family members are being tortured and brutalised on a daily basis are experiencing terror, not us.
    Gordon Brown and Alan Johnson are enemies of the British people. They seek to create unnecessary fear among citizens for their own political ends.
    What a pair of traitors.
    They should be hanged for terrorising British civilians.
    No wonder the New Labour party repealed the crime of treachery.
    They are the biggest traitors going.
    They make our soldiers targets for no reason.
    Troops out.

  51. 234
    grdnon brwon-lying bastard says:

    from the mail.’Another trauma came in Mr Brown’s last year at school when he suffered impaired vision after an injury in a rugby scrum.

    Instinctively private, he did not complain or visit a doctor until, in a football match in his first weeks at Edinburgh University, he headed the ball and his sight worsened.

    The doctor told him he had detached retinas in both eyes, but that the delay in treatment had increased the damage and there was a danger of permanent blindness.

    In the first of four operations over the next two years, he was forced to lie immobile for six months in a darkened hospital ward. It was, he would later say, ‘a living torture’.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1245555/Gordon-Brown-biography-delayed-election.html#ixzz0dXJ73sOq

    any more of the ‘ling torture’ i am going through each and every day under these lunatics and criminals and i think i might need to lie down in a dark room for 6 years!

    • 256
      the fettes/eton axis says:

      Just imagine – if DC had spent more time on the Eton Wall game instead of the Eton ball game we could have had consecutive one eyed PMs.

      • 287
        ZZZZZZZZ says:

        Yawn…

      • 297
        Troll Buster says:

        Your obsession for ETON appears to be one of envy, you mention it every other post but you have very little to contribute, whats up did you fail the 11+? the humour in your posts are at your expense and just make you look stupid.

        • 325
          Steve Expat says:

          The class war will never work.

          Who honestly would not send their child to Eton given the opportunity to do so?

          Same with marriage and inheritance tax – most of us aspire to marry and leave our kids a good inheritance, we support these things even if they don’t neccesarily affect us today.

          A core vote strategy by Liebour will reduce their support to the core vote only – maybe 20%? Certainly not enough to be re-elected, that is for sure.

          • Ungrateful Sod says:

            To be honest ‘Expat’ whether people agree with your post or not at least you make an effort to put some content worth reading into your post. Neither ’257 fettes’ content is worth reading it also lacks direction or humour.Its pretty obvious fette is Nu lab troll sion simon.

          • the fettes/eton axis says:

            I take offence very rarely but having fought New Labour harder than DC for the last 10 years I find that accusation very offensive.

          • the fettes/eton axis says:

            ps; delighted if Labour fall to 20%.

          • Troll Buster says:

            Touchy have you been rumbled or are you just in denial, smell like a Nu Lab troll to me

          • the fettes/eton axis says:

            Just someone who sees no difference between the parties – it may make me the only honest poster on this site.

          • Bored of the above poster- Yawn! says:

            You are the Nick Griffin and I claim my £5.00.
            Nobody really cares that you are gay Nick, it’s no big deal you know.

    • 305
      Anonymous says:

      Well if you saw Brown at the bottom of ruck could you resist the temptation to boot his head off!

    • 393
      Sir William Waad says:

      It’s true that Brown was kicked in the head by a hooker – the bit about the rugby match is supposition.

  52. 245
    too ashamed to post my name says:

    I admit that i did vote Labour back in ’74. Remember the old LibLab pact? I was young,impressionable and filled with the pride of being a new voter. I was a fool i freely admit, but it seemed the thing to do at the time.
    Will there be any statute of limitations under this retrograde law or should i just plead temporary insanity?

    • 252
      Anonymous says:

      “There will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous person who do not need to repent.”

  53. 246
    Colonel Nut says:

    Anybody who doubts this should be forced to walk through the centre of Kings Lynn.

  54. 248
    cost cutter says:

    Does this count as sleaze or snouts in the trough?
    “Lord Hutton made a request for the records provided to the inquiry, not produced in evidence, to be closed for 30 years, and that medical (including post-mortem) reports and photographs be closed for 70 years.” Mail on Sunday
    It could be a cover up for a political murder or/and or a Judge who waited until after his retirement to deliver a verdict paid for by Blair and who does not want anybody to know how much he was paid.

    • 367
      nell says:

      I wonder what it is about Dr Kelly’s death that labour are so desperate to hide??

      Hopefully the tories will rescind the labour hutton’s attempt to bury labour’s evil sins.

    • 368
      Batty Hattie Harmanescu says:

      He made a request, to whom ?
      Who has the authority to grant such a request?
      Who has the authority to ungrant (ok, I know that’s not English) such a request.
      Why might such a request be made?

    • 433
      barefootcontessa says:

      Why don’t the Kelly family speak up? Are they too frightened?

      • 492
        nell says:

        Well if I was one of his daughter’s I would be adding my voice to those 11 eminent Doctors and Coroners and demanding that the information be released.

        This was an honorable man who spoke the truth – there were no wmd’s – why and how was he silenced and by whom??

      • 497
        cost cutter says:

        How much was Hutton paid? Worth a leak, somebody knows. Was it £5M or more?

  55. 250
    Harry the Camel says:

    @ 231

    Does not quite chime with the official McVersion on Wiki….

    He suffered a retinal detachment after being kicked in the head during an end-of-term rugby union match at his old school. He was left blind in his left eye, despite treatment including several operations and lying in a darkened room for weeks at a time. Later at Edinburgh, while playing tennis, he noticed the same symptoms in his right eye. Brown underwent experimental surgery at Edinburgh Royal Infirmary and his eye was saved.

    Spin, spin, spin.

    • 266
      50 Calibre says:

      So he was kicked in the head…

      Would that account for his dysfunctional conduct, his delusional witterings, his ability to create instant statistics that nobody takes any notice of, his inability to tell the truth, his deranged behaviour every Wednesday noon when asked straightforward questions, etc., etc… ?

      Where can you find a sniper when you really need one?

      • 274
        the fettes/eton axis says:

        On the basis of your linking the kick in the head to his behaviour are you suggesting all MPs were cranially impacted when younger?

        • 285
          doc says:

          Fuck off wanker, Brown holds a unique position as fuckwit of the century.

          • Roger Daley says:

            Two centuries actually. 20th & 21st.

          • the fettes/eton axis says:

            But you are giving him a serious challenge.

          • doc says:

            You’re mentally challenged mate. It’s about time the authorities stopped people in care like you getting access to the internet IMHO.

          • the fettes/eton axis says:

            Ah, now we know who you are. Given your totalitarian tendencies I identify you as Dick Sniffin and sentence you to 3 years with Martin Websters corpse.

          • Bored of the above poster- Yawn! says:

            For God’s sake man, you are a BN*P member.
            Have you got amnesia for fucks sake?

    • 293
      Curious of Padstow says:

      So, why was he kicked in the head?

    • 518
      The Admiral says:

      Any one for tennis?

  56. 254
    the fettes/eton axis says:

    I think there is one – its called Dick Sniffin and the Buggers, Nutters and Perverts. The bad news is that they also have a policy of executing anyone who has voted Tory as well and then, just to make sure, abolishing voting.

  57. 255
    Dump Master says:

    Does Mark Oaten claim for wet wipes?

  58. 260
    Batty Hattie Harmanescu says:

    executing everybody who ever voted for the Labour party.

    Yes please, you would be doing me a favour. I voted for New Labour in 1997. I cannot believe how stupid I was, and every day have to flagellate myself to a bloody pulp, to try to atone for not only my foolishness, but what has turned out to be a betrayal of my country.

    Try as I might, mortification of the flesh is not getting me anywhere, I still feel guilty as hell. So yes, execution; bring it on. It’s the right thing to do!

  59. 263
    Dave Cameron says:

    A woman decides to have a facelift for her birthday. She spends £5,000 and feels pretty good about the results. On her way home she stops at a newsstand to buy a paper. Before leaving, she asks the sales clerk, “I hope you don’t mind my asking, but how old do you think I am?”
    “About 32″, the clerk replies.
    “I’m actually 47,” the woman says happily.
    A little while later, she goes into McDonald’s, and upon getting her order, asks the counter girl the same question. She replies, “I’d quess about 29.”
    The woman replies, “Nope, I am 47.” Now she is feeling really good about herself.

    While waiting for the bus home, she asks an old man the same question. He replies, “I’m 78 and my eyesight is starting to go. Although, when I was young, there was a sure way to tell how old a woman was, but it requires you to let me put my hands up your shirt and feel your boobs. Then I can tell exactly how old you are.”
    They waited in silence on the empty street until curiosity got the best of the woman, and she finally said, “What the hell, go ahead.”
    The old man slips both hands up her shirt, under her bra, and begins to feel around. After a couple of minutes, she says, “Okay, okay, how old am I?”
    He removes his hands and says, “You are 47.”
    Stunned, the woman says, “That is amazing! How did you know?”
    The old man replies, “I was behind you in line at McDonald’s.”

  60. 275
    • 280
      Frankie "stop that tittering" says:

      Oh for god’s sake stop throwing hissy fits you silly old tart.

    • 346
      nell says:

      If I understand rightly, mandy’s mum left £400K in her will to be divided equally between two sons.

      Immediately after her death mandy purchased, outright, without a mortgage, his present home for £2.4million.

      Obviously my working class maths are not of the same calibre as mandy’s.!!!!

      • 356
        Mr Alister Darling says:

        Did that include inheritance tax?

      • 357
        anon,anon,anon.... says:

        Hope the revenue are checking the IH Tax they paid.

      • 377
        Old Nick Heavenly(real dimwit) says:

        He must have a sugar mummy somewhere.

        • 391
          nell says:

          Aha!! You have it – what was he doing during those years in Brussels??

          Isn’t that when he made his good friends with russians, libyans and the g+++ldsmith’s???

          • Old Nick Heavenly(real dimwit) says:

            Doesn’t bare thinking about Nell.

            He must have crawled up an awful lot of bums in his day!

          • barefootcontessa says:

            Bet he loves that photograph of himself on the cover of LIVE Mail on Sunday magazine. What a tart! What a pantomime dame! Looks like the head of a dangerous venomous snake just before it strikes, though I know he’s trying to look cuddly.

          • Morse says:

            We have it up on the dart board already, on the door in hut 33.

          • barefootcontessa says:

            AND, He’s been putting Grecian 2000 on his eyebrows. Jealous of Alistair?

            In his photograoh he seems to be saying, ‘Here I am’, come on boys, come and get me’.

  61. 278
    Ratsniffer says:

    Labour marxists were using the bland, utilitarian social housing projects and concrete bunker communist party offices in soviet russia as their blueprint. The were, and are, ashamed that the great victorian buildings were built as a result of commerce.

    • 442
      concrete pump says:

      The communist party did construction on the cheap. Quite often the concrete had poorly graded aggregate, and the slump (plasticity), was something the Soviets never got the hang of.

      Concrete buildings can look beautiful, if they are designed and built with care.

      • 515
        The Admiral says:

        You want to see what is happening now. It’s called “Concrete cancer” and demolition is the only answer. These buildings are only 40 years old. Look like sh1te. But the replacements are often clad in rusting iron plate. And resemble an old trap steamer, inside and out.

        Luuuverly, not···

  62. 292
    Gordon Brown says:

    When the going gets tough, release another Bin laden tape and increase the UKs terror alert. If that fails then send tanks to Heathrow.

    • 323
      Brown's a Tosser says:

      Then call an election and tell people for their own safety to send in postal votes! We all know what happens to them.

    • 353
      nell says:

      ‘When the going gets tough’ gordon ‘reluctantly’ talks about his Mother and how he felt ‘abandoned and scarred’ when she was taken seriously ill with peritonitis whilst he was a teenager.

      There seems to be some suggestion in what’s being printed about his reaction to his Mother’s fight for life, that close friends and family believe his Mother’s illness is the cause of his current dysfunctional behaviour, almost as though he blames her for getting ill!!

      It is certainly dysfunctional that nowhere does he state how pleased , how relieved ! he was that she won her fought for life against all the odds.

      How strange is that??!!!!

      • 373
        Beastly social worker from east london says:

        Nell
        Its all about McMental and how he feels
        He is an inverted Galileo, the sun revolves around him and shines out of his arse
        In his own mind

        • 383
          easyleys says:

          Does that explain the tan on his underpants?

          • barefootcontessa says:

            We’ve got Brown with his single eye, Balls with his stammer, Mandelslime with his mother, Alan Johnson with his under privileged childhood, …..what next? Are they all to be pitied? Yes!

          • nell says:

            Do we really want a government of ministers who believe they have had a childhood that has blighted their adulthood and left them scarred and unable to function as normal human beings?

            Surely we need ministers who may, or may not have had difficult childhoods, but who have gone on to overcome life’s little difficulties to excel and move towards leadership.

            Not much evidence of that in this present sorry crew is there??!!

          • barefootcontessa says:

            Cameron is, at least, better balanced in that respect. I think.

          • Anonymous says:

            Possibly, if there was damage to the central nervous system from a kick in the head. Psychosis is often shown to be accompanied by brain lesions. A brain scan should be performed for confirmation.

          • Morse says:

            Prescott’s eating disorder!

        • 579
          Moley says:

          What all these inadequate human beings are doing is making excuses for themselves and refusing to accept responsibility for their own actions.

          The world is full of adults who had “difficult” childhoods, but most of them grow up and overcome any difficulties; only a few of them become lying thieves and end up either in the Labour Party or HM Prison.

  63. 338
    He's not the Messiah (he's a very naughty boy) says:

    What a malicous group of totally boring ‘wankers.

    Get a fecking life and grow up.

    And don’t gang up with a typical bullying response. I have left the building.

  64. 339
  65. 349
    Beast from the east says:

    Does anybody really think that McMental would have a womans pants in his room?

  66. 350
    dr. sipp says:

    is it posible to marry someone not for sex but there position in life?

  67. 362
    Beastly social worker from east london says:

    Does anybody really think that McMental would have a womans pants in his room?
    Ive only had women who dont co- habit leave underwear in my house when hidden so as to be found by another woman (not my mother)
    No , this is McMentals lingerie beard.
    The greasy fat wanker either made up the story or stole the pants from a washing line to convince his mother that he wasnt a knob jockey.
    She knew the truth and died in suspicious circumstances.
    Old Ma Brown also nearly died from peritonitus, a complaint normally contracted from violent anal sex.
    That family needs investigating.

    • 406
      Anonymous says:

      So that’s where McSnot’s grisly smile came from. It first appeared when he sat on his father’s lap as a child and felt something hard and sharp pressing in his bottom.

  68. 363
    T Dan Smith says:

    You gotta admit I did a great job in Newcastle and made a few quid on the side.

  69. 369
    A message from the people. says:

    Gordon Brown – you lump of dog excrement.

    You are the most hated man in Britain

    You are a fraudster

    You are a c*unt

    You are a nothing.

    You will be torn apart at the General Election that you so fear.

    We,The People will take you apart and spit you out.

    Pack your bags and take that grotty wife with you.

    • 381
      That's Democracy says:

      The British electorate are incapable of tearing a paper bag apart. They have stood by, passive, bovine, hopeless, while charlatans, cheats and liars have moved in. There is no democracy in Britain.

  70. 370
  71. 372
    nell says:

    Isn’t it odd that mandy publicly uses the death of his Mother (and her £400K will divided equally between two sons) to try and justify his purchase of his £2.4million Regent’s Park mansion and

    gordon uses the serious illness his Mother contracted during his teen years to try and justify his dysfunctional behaviour.

    No doubt this cavaliar, uncaring attitude to Mother’s that is so evident at the top echelon of this labour government is what has driven their policy of abandoning family values.

    • 375
      nell says:

      Isn’t it odd that mandy publicly uses his Mother (and her £400K will divided equally between two sons) to try and justify his purchase of his £2.4million mansion and

      gordon uses the serious illness his Mother contracted during his teen years to try and justify his dysfunctional behaviour.

      No doubt this cavaliar, uncaring attitude to Mother’s, that is so evident at the top echelon of this labour government, is what has driven their policy of abandoning family values.

  72. 378
    That's Democracy says:

    “If you’ve done no wrong you’ve got nothing to fear . . .” Seems that those who peddle that lie have no grasp of logic whatsoever. Over four million cameras in Britain, unmanned drones soon will be watching still more. So much of it is illegitimate and illegal and if you think that ANY of the awful dross that masquerade as politicians in Britain can correct that they you are a fool. But, hey, that’s democracy, right?

  73. 385
    Sir William Waad says:

    Oh please please please Mr/s Ploddy Policeperson, put the pie down, get out from behind your desk and give these thieves some strife!

    • 419
      TheCourtOfPublicOpinion says:

      And please Mr/s ploddy, don”t think too much about who really pays your wages.

  74. 389
    Sir William Waad says:

    To be fair it was the Tories who started building tower blocks, in the 50s, but that was because Labour had basically done bugger all about re-housing the people during the postwar period and there was a desperate shortage of places to live.

    • 508
      Cheese Lover says:

      i lived in a Tower Block in Stockholm for some time, no problems over there.

      • 516
        AC1 says:

        There is now…

        http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/24/AR2010012401399.html

        STOCKHOLM — Ten subway stops from downtown Stockholm is “little Mogadishu,” a drab suburb of the Swedish capital where radical Islamists are said to be recruiting the sons of Somali immigrants for jihad in the Horn of Africa.

        Police and residents say about 20 have joined al-Shabab, an al-Qaida-linked group waging a bloody insurgency against Somalia’s government, and many of them came from the suburb of Rinkeby – the heart of Sweden’s Somali community. According to SAPO, the Swedish state security police, five of them have been killed and 10 are still at large in Somalia.

        • 536
          Uncle Albert says:

          The Swedes live under the rather quaint illusion that being reasonable solves all problems. They welcomed in these bandits and now are in trauma at the smorgasbord of Islamic fundamentalism let loose in their homeland. Serve ‘em fucking right for supplying Adolf with all his iron ore during the war.

        • 587
          AC1 says:

          Albert there are 2 culture types.

          1. Reciprocal Cultures.
          2. Tribal Cultures.

          They don’t mix. That’s why certain multiculturalisms work, and others do not.

          We really have to filter out tribal cultures from immigration, and encourage those that will not change to leave.

        • 615
          Bored of the above poster- Yawn! says:

          That is up to democracy to decide AC1.
          You don’t really like democracy by the sound of it.

        • 663
          AC1 says:

          Individual Rights are just as important as being the peoples ability to remove a failed Government.

          Just not a fan of simplistic Majoritarianism.

        • 664
          AC1 says:

          Oh and help yourself to a full refund.

        • 715
          Bored of the above poster- Yawn! says:

          As I said, you clearly do not like democracy.
          Fuck off to China then.
          No refund.

        • 722
          AC1 says:

          You can fuck off you ignorant hoon. Here’s your refund.

  75. 403
    nell says:

    Questions I want to hear Chilcott ask bliar :
    ‘Did you really believe , right up to the moment you ordered our troops into war, that Iraq had wmd’s?’
    ‘Did you write letters to Bush in 2002 before any public discussion had begun on a possible war in Iraq, saying you would support him in a 2nd Iraq War, whatever?’
    ‘Did you believe that gordon, your Chancellor was making enough funds available to troops for equipment in the build-up to war?’
    ‘How did Dr Kelly really die?’

    • 415
      The Dirty Rat says:

      In your dreams Nell. The only way he will answer these questions is when his joints are parting on the rack. He is now a good catholic, repented, and absolved of all sin the cnut.

      • 426
        nell says:

        When I was young I used to believe that British mp’s, lords and government officials were the servants of the people and amongst the most honest, incorruptible public servants in the world.

        How this labour government has so completely destroyed public life in this country to make government here look sleazy, dishonest and downright evil, even by Zimbabwean standards!!!

        • 448
          barefootcontessa says:

          Nell, we were brain washed, hood winked, and lied to. We used to ‘see through a glass darkly’. The trouble is nothing changes.

          • nell says:

            Well something has changed Contessa because we all see their deceit, lies and dishonesty much more clearly now!

            And aren’t they finding our knowledge, scrutiny and distrust of them uncomfortable?! Yes!!

            Long may it continue and Thank You Guido for giving us this very public opportunity to criticise and expose them!

          • Morse says:

            It is with out a doubt the Internet & camera phones that has changed the way we think.

          • Endeavour says:

            and the 24hour continual newscycle

          • Morse says:

            lol – So you watched ITV3 yesterday afternoon as well, Endeavour!

      • 430
        Loreton says:

        Blair’s immortal soul is at stake this week.He can make an honest confession and be blessed by God’s forgiveness.If,however,he chooses to mock the truth he must face eternal suffering.This is the week in which the sinner Blair must make his soul,I pray for him.

        • 437
          nell says:

          Sorry I must say I don’t pray for him – I only hope he gets sent to the pits of hell in the company of gordon forever more Amen! And long mey they ‘enjoy’ one another’s company!!!!

          • barefootcontessa says:

            He’ll rush off to his little box when he’s finished lying to the Inquiry, lie to a priest and obtain absolution. So that’s alright then. God’s a wonderful thing!

          • Susie says:

            An delicious vision of the hell which awaits them both: they’re both sitting in the Granita waiting for their meal (which never comes) having to make small talk to each other — for eternity.

        • 455
          Ch4rl3s H4rdwidg3 says:

          I pray every day that someone will shoot the bastard.

      • 459
        Canon Law says:

        That’s not the way it works.

        Repentance is followed by an act of penance in the form of honesty ..failing that outcome, the absolution is deemed never to have been granted.

        There is no remission of guilt.

        A murderer can be ‘forgiven’ but must still do the time or else the ‘absolution’ is null and void.

        • 489
          nell says:

          Acts of penance and honesty?? Not in bliar’s lifetime!! Nor in gordon’s . bliar tries to drape his catholic faith around him to make him look decent and honest (in truth you can’t conceal a rotting corpse- the smell will always give you away)

          And gordon tries to claim his father’s ‘moral compass’ but has been proved a liar so many times that his father’s moral compass looks of less value than a dodgy stolen second hand car.

          • Snotsicle says:

            His moral compass appears to have been degaussed.

          • barefootcontessa says:

            I’m sure you’re right, but I don’t understand that word degaussed. De-gassed? Discussed? De-grassed?

            Oh, just found it, – my ignorance – means to neutralise by producing an opposing magnetic field. Quite so.

    • 428
      Cynic says:

      Unfortunately Nell there is far too much weasel room in your justified questions and Blair will not be changing his tack to answer any of them…expect responses typically as follows;

      Yes from the information available at that time the balance of probablity suggested that he had or was at least well advanced in having WMDs

      No (Blair would never risk having such directly termed letters in potential circulation..what they discussed in person is still unknown and it would have been within those conversations that the understanding of support would have been developed,any letters that did pass would have been prefaced with the preferred 2nd UN resolution scenario)

      Yes (Whilst estimates would been made eventual costs would be an unknown at that point)

      I have no medical expertise to determine any other reason for Dr kelly’s death other than that established at the time.

      In between these type of responses there will be plenty of placatory statements suggesting that hindsight is easy…regretable death of Dr kelly etc etc etc but don’t expect this to bring much to light. This is a master of expediency at work and still on top of his game however unproductive that has been to date since his leaving office.

      • 678
        Just saying says:

        agree cynic, except, ‘ unproductive that has been to date since his leaving office’

        Millions, at least £1M from Israel, what for exactly?

        • 761
          Cynic says:

          sorry Just Saying I was referring to the lack of a ‘peace agreement’ as being unproductive given his role as a ‘middle east peace envoy’. Funding sources were not part of my thinking but am sure it would be interesting to know.

    • 434
      Twat Spotter says:

      These fools are capable of anything. As I recall, too, the Conservatives were positively gung-ho for trouble too. Chief monkey in this respect was Hague, a man who was positively foaming at the mouth for conflice. Get over your pitiful parochialism: the party you support, like the incumbents, like the Libs, are lying charlatans.

      • 446
        nell says:

        You miss the point – as do many labour supporters (in their case probably deliberately).

        bliar said Iraq had wmd’s and that was the reason for going to war. (Did they find any ? No!)

        bliar said Lord Goldsmith advised the war was legal – is Chilcott finding that is the case ? No!

        Did bliar make sure that gordon made enough money available to kit out our troops with proper equipment ? No! I doubt he even bothered to enquire – he was so clearly disinterested in the loss of life that his decision to go to war would inevitably bring about.

        Did bliar ever discuss Dr Kelly’s harrassment with Alastair and how they might go about it to discredit a decent, honorable man? Of course he did!

        Were bliar and alastair implicated in Dr Kelly’s death ? If labour has it’s way, we shall never know because hutton has been paid to shut down the information relating to Dr Kelly’s death for 70 years. Someone badly wants to hide something don’t they ? Who paid hutton to try and bury the evidence??!!

        • 454
          barefootcontessa says:

          Blair was a successful politician because he was so ‘fast ‘ on his feet. That attribute is the only one that counts when you’re a successful politician these days. He’ll be getting sharpened up specially for the Inquiry.

        • 464
          Alyingstare Campbell says:

          You’re making me out to be an obnoxious, foul-mouthed, lying and all-round nasty bully boy.

        • 465
          Cynic says:

          I don’t miss your point at all..I agree with many of the things you are saying but am sure Blair will not throw any useful light on the real answers to the questions you pose.

          He is not about to risk losing his ‘supposed’ place in Britain’s political history going down at the hands of Chilcott.

          This appearance will be all about damage limitation and mitigation not revelation… would that it were !

        • 517
          • nell says:

            Approximately ’300′ people have signed this petition – I only read through the first few . They were:

            Jako Basha, John Waine (sic), Jn Joshua Duldulao and Salvo of Monaco!!!

            I suspect bliar is sitting in his lonely study dreaming up suitable names for people to support his insupportable position on Iraq and then posting it on the web.

          • barefootcontessa says:

            Blair Foundation – my arse.

          • Moley says:

            “Anonymous” signatures with no address details!!

            Many signatories refusing even to state which town or country they live in.

            How the hell can anyone legitimately sign a petition anonymously?

          • Doc Trough says:

            I suspect Ingrid may be of the genus Equus.

          • Take a look at this if you have the time says:

            http://internetlibel.blogspot.com/

      • 453
        Cynic says:

        pitiful parochialism… yeah right twat spotter..mirror gazing again.

  76. 438
    SME says:

    Listening to Any Questions yesterday on R4 there appeared to be a general agreement that the country should try and re-balance the economy with an increase in manufacturing activity

    Manufacturing is not suited to public ownership whether in the form of State ownership, being heavily reliant on State grants or public sector contracts. Grants are toxic in that they give the grant receiver an unfair advantage over their competition and often fail after re-location as they often lose the embedded local skills that are required to support a manufacturing facility.

    A government needs to provide a framework where investors in manufacturing feel safe in making long term investment decision and will not be subject to constantly moving goalposts of tax and industrial legislation.

    Private ownership is preferable to PLC
    2) Private manufacturing companies generally

    • 526
      AC1 says:

      Is there a shortage of things in Boxes?

      Britain needs to do things that there exists a market demand for. Mass Manufacturing seems to favour lower wage countries.

      So should we lower British wages further? They’ve already been lowered by the pound falling in value.

      • 547
        SME says:

        It will be lower wages or no wages

        The British do not have some divine right to a good standard of living

        We buy and eat enough product for some of it to be made here

        HR managers and Diversity coordinators aren’t going to fund the NHS

        Our balance sheet is out of balance in favour of the checkers, counters and inspectors

        • 583
          AC1 says:

          Well I agree with you on wages. However Manufacturing is just an Assembly Service. It’s more important to meet real world demand with “rare” skills whether that’s fulfilled by an assembly service or a conventional service is not relevant.

          • Moley says:

            Rare skills require an education system that produces graduates competitive with the best the world can produce.

            Our education system is at the bottom of the global class, not the top.

          • AC1 says:

            That’s ‘cos the state funds and manages it.

            Get the state out of funding, running and provisioning schools and we’ll see an improvement. The state should just be tasked with making sure parents are provisioning an education for their children and loaning them the money if they cannot.

          • Bored of the above poster- Yawn! says:

            What, like PFI’s?
            Rather torepedoes your argument, doesn’t it.

          • grobdj says:

            ‘Manufacturing is just an assembly service’

            AC1:

            I need a day off. Pop down and run my Cobden Chadwick printing machine for a day sometime, or my C02 laser

            Manufacturing employees develop skills, over time which hone the competitive advantage. The consumer only sees what passes quality control

            Manufacturers only need one good year in ten, to keep going, whereas bankers have one bad year in 50 and the system is on its knees

          • SME says:

            assembly service?

            do you have any comprehension of the skill and risk that is required to design, test and profitably assemble a JCB?

          • AC1 says:

            I assemble far more complicated things than a JCB as I run a small software business.

          • AC1 says:

            No not like PFI.

            PFI is a way for the government to pretend it doesn’t owe money.

          • grobdj says:

            AC1

            Although clearly educated to a lower standard, us wot uneducated manufacturing nobs use software too:

            http://ctpp.co.uk/chaos/z/os/startup.htm

          • grobdj says:

            I meant to say us manufacturing nobs write software too

          • AC1 says:

            Intel Assembly is horrid isn’t it? 68000 assembly was so easy in comparison.

          • Engineer says:

            AC1 – Sorry to disagree with you, but SME and Grobdj have a good point. You would be amazed at the true complexity of the design, development, manufacture, and assembly of a JCB – or any similar piece of machinery. As one very small example, a reference book in one of my former places of work listed the grades of steel commercially available; there were 4,000 of them. Just selecting the appropriate grade for a particular part is task requiring knowledge and experience.

            Don’t knosk the clanky engineers – the world depends on them. Without them, there would be no electricity, for a start. It’s a very broad, very complex and very technological discipline.

          • AC1 says:

            I’m not knocking them, they were knocking me.

        • 700
          grobdj says:

          Thanks Eng, and AC1, you must admit, with manufacturing employment at an all-time low, maybe the few tin-bashers that are left know a thing or two about downturns – we have had to be resourceful to survive

          In my case, year-on-year growth of 10% in China translates to year-on-year contraction of 10% for me. It’s that simple

          Cheap imports have not made goods in British shops cheaper – the market price (what you are willing to pay) stayed the same and has meant much higher retail margins. A football shirt, once made by Umbro in Stockport is still 60 quid even though it’s now made abroad. Consumers are gullible – they will drive to a swanky shopping centre yet do not twig that they are actually paying for the free car park

  77. 461
    Fees Office Clerk says:

    Bob Ainsworth: “I think the British public will wake up and rue the day if they wind up with a Conservative government in charge of this country after May 6″

    Thanks Bob, I’m sure that everyone on this blog will be eternally grateful for that advice. Now fuck off you useless piece of shit.

    • 468
      Great British Public says:

      We’re certainly ruing the day we elected New Liebour.

    • 482
      nell says:

      And bobaintbustinagut is absolutely the ‘best’!!! Minister of Defence that this government can offer us and our troops in Afghanistan.

      Yes we really want to re-elect this government of no talents, don’t we??!!

  78. 462
    Flute says:

    Brown & Blair are as full of shit as shit filled condoms

  79. 473
    George"Last of the Tory Trolls" Osborne says:

    I went to town today to catch the last of the January sales

    and I managed to get a 42″ phillips for £299.

    But once I got it home I thought to myself,

    “Why the fuck do I need a screwdriver that big”

  80. 478
    Lord Knob Jockey of Boys says:

    I pawned my watch and my mothers gold teeth to purchase my Barbie palace
    That nice Mr Rothschild also gave me a good deal on some Aushwitz tooth fillings that I was able to re sell and trade on the open market
    All above board and within the rules.

  81. 481
    the fettes/eton axis says:

    Dear Guido, I absolutely adore musicals, especially with Judy Garland and Barbara Streisand and being bummed by grubby little crackheasd boys that I’ve paid for out of my rent money.

    Does this make me gay?

  82. 483
    Gordon McMental says:

    Peter
    I could have given you a much better price
    25 pence in the pound
    Im a fucking genius

  83. 493
    THE CHILCOT INQUIRY'S ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM says:

    It has been widely reported that there was no British post-war plan.
    That is the big lie.
    The British post-war plan was to take out Saddam Hussein and his top 150 officials but to leave the Iraqi institutions in place.
    That plan was delivered unofficially to Donald Rumsfeld.
    So the question that the Chilcot Inquiry must ask is this: Can Tony Blair please provide a full audit trail of that document from first draught to its unofficial delivery to Donald Rumsfeld.
    The answer to that question will expose the war criminals within the Blair Administration.
    Several witnesses will have to be recalled including Tony Blair if he is not asked that question.
    Until that question is asked the Inquiry’s work will be incomplete and if the Chilcot Inquiry fails to ask that question then another Inquiry will have to be held to find out the answer.
    War crime proceedings can then follow.

    • 538
      barefootcontessa says:

      That audit trail will be protected for 70 years.

    • 586
      Happyness Stan says:

      Written plan or not, the plan for post war Iraq is as clear as the nose on your face. ( Of course there was a written and detailed plan, because there always is a written and detailed plan.) The only usefully relevant questions are, did Tony Blair, or indeed George Bush ever get to look at it? Also. Would it have made any different to Jack Shit if they had. I suspect NO, is the answer to both questions.

      What we currently have going on in Iraq is precisely what the powers that forced this war on the world, planned it to be. If it were not they would be spending anything it took of our cash, to make it different.

      If you fail to plan, you plan to fail. Is a military truism, and precisely not what the best brains in the Pentagon and the CIA have a habit of so doing.

      They spend BILLIONS planning everything from a spilt cup of office coffee, to a full on nuclear war. That is indeed what they get paid, and are highly trained to do.

      It is UTTERLY inconceivable that a combination of allies that 65 years ago planned almost to bloody perfection the D-Day landings, and the ousting of Hitler, and his modern armies from Western Europe, did not have a very detailed plan of what they were going to do in post Saddam Iraq. The allied powers actually had a plan for post WW2 Europe before Hitler had even come to power in Germany.

      The problem with lies and the liars that so dishonestly tell em, is that one lie begs another, and another, and therefore ever more lies. So many lies in the end that ultimately absolutely nothing they say can possibly make any sense at all

      • 601
        AC1 says:

        The plan was this…

        To turn Iraq into a free fire zone for every Jihadi in the Middle East, rather than fight an counter-terrorist war in the west.

        Al Q hates the idea of democracy and freedom for others (in common with other authoritarian beliefs such as Marxism), and the plan was for the population to reject Al Q whilst letting the allies shoot up every wannabe jihadi.

        The USMC just pulled out of Ramadi, we’ve basically won as Al Q did their job and pissed everyone off.

        Not exactly moral, but in the Wests best interests? Yes.

        • 623
          Correction says:

          In the West’s interests? No.
          In America’s interests? Yes.
          At this point Britain’s and America’s interests diverge.

          • AC1 says:

            So Aldulucia should be a Sharia State?

          • Bored of the above poster- Yawn! says:

            You are as anti-democratic as Alqaeda and you do not engage in debate which is a New Labour tactic.
            You simply repeat your dogma and believe that if you keep repeating it it will become the truth, like the Nazis.
            What is ironic is that you cannot see that you are guilty of the behaviour you accuse others of.
            In short you are a bit of a dick.

          • AC1 says:

            Hello Tat. It’s you that is ignorant. The way things happen around the world must be a random blur for someone as moronic as yourself.

            My point is that Democracy and Mob rule are not so far apart and democracies advantage comes only in getting rid of rulers without shooting them (and the other messy bits).

            Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.

            You sound like you want to stay in the herd. I’ll keep in the pack thanks.

  84. 496
    Sir Robert Ainsworth VIP says:

    I am a close friend of Geoff ‘oon. ‘e would’ve made a bostin’ seat stuffer ‘ad ‘e not been buildin’ up ‘is property portfolio an’ inventin’ Just-in Time supply.

    • 504
      nell says:

      I do hope that bobaintbustinagut isn’t heading towards the Lords along with his useless troughing pals , uddin, martin and sugar!!!!

      Time for reform dave – we need an elected HoL sometime soon!!!!

      • 533
        Anonymous says:

        Just watch! When Labour lose the next election, (and we all know they will) let’s see how many of ex-MP’s will slide into the Lords as if nothing has happened.

        • 541
          nell says:

          Then dave and the tories really must do something about the Lords to make them subject to the electorate !!!! Labour’s trashing of our ancient institutions has made the re-organisation of the Lords an urgent matter once the tories come into power.

          We really must get rid of the dross that labour has put into the Lords including uddin, sugar, martin and the four labour lords who tried to sell their favours like whores on a street corner.!!!!

          • Colonel Nut says:

            Wouldn’t that be wonderful but how?Even when their troughing and corruption are exposed they remain fireproof.The Tory concepts of deserving meritocratic privilege are now in effect little different to those of Labour.Effective legislation to get rid of the dross is about as likely as a successful Gunpowder Plot.

          • Anonymous says:

            I agree. But they’ll fight tooth and nail to keep them in there.

  85. 498
    Dave Cameron says:

    A man once offered me a thousand pounds to orally pleasure him.

    A thousand pounds. Well, I had my chance and I blew it.

    • 501
      Gordon 'stonewall' Brown says:

      Well, it’s only public money.

      • 505
        Ha Ha Ha Laugh While you can Labour Trolls, laugh while you can says:

        People are dying from fuel poverty and the Labour troll posting under the name Dave Cameron is cracking jokes.
        Sums them up, doesn’t it?
        Scum.
        The sooner they are booted out of office the better.

        • 638
          Gordon Brown says:

          Do you really think David Cameron gives a toss about the poor in the UK ??

          Get real buddy.

          All Cameron will be doing on a Sunday afternoon will be riding out with the Heythrop Hunt watching hounds tearing foxes to shreds

          Tally Ho old chap

    • 509
      The Beast says:

      A grand?????
      You obviously went to the wrong school

    • 561
      Martin O'Neill (or Sweet Marie as he's known there) says:

      I just draw up a rota for the team, like Dave.

  86. 513
    The Prime Mincer says:

    “knnnnnnnob Ainsworth has my full confidence “

  87. 532
    nell says:

    http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/British-Soldier-From-3rd-Battalion-The-Rifles-Dies-From-Wounds-Sustained-In-Explosion-In-Helmand/Article/201001415534764?lpos=UK_News_Carousel_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15534764_British_Soldier_From_3rd_Battalion_The_Rifles_Dies_From_Wounds_Sustained_In_Explosion_In_Helmand

    The 251st soldier ( a teenager) has died from an IED explosion in Helmand today.

    How many more of our lads are we going to lose to this failed, unwinnable , unjustified , all about political egos, and nothing to do with moral compasses, useless war before we bring our troops home??!!

    And where are gordon and ainbustinagut on the issue of getting our lads proper protection and helicopters??? Nowhere near to protecting our own troops!!. Are they??!!!!

    • 540
      Anonymous says:

      Nope – and neither are their offspring, nor are they ever likely to be. Speaks volumes, that does.

    • 543
      Anonymous says:

      Nope, and neither are their offspring. Nor are they ever likely to be.

      Speaks volumes, that does.

    • 549
      barefootcontessa says:

      How many Afghanis are going to be killed? These people need our sympathy too, though expecting our government ,whatever colour, to call a halt to the war would be like ‘pissing in the wind’.

    • 557
      British Militia says:

      It will last as long as the bankers, defence contractors and globalist interest can keep the money spinner going. If a nation doesn’t “play ball”, typically anglo saxon protestant nations will be commanded to pacify them.

  88. 534
    Down with Brown! says:

    Labour are already trying to sink the TV debates to save Gordon. They don’t want the audience to ask question or clap. They want over 50% of the audience to be Labour on the basis Labour have a parliamentary majority. They don’t want the debates to on the same nights as Champions Laegue Games.

    Solution: Debates on Friday or Sunday nights. No clash with football. One debate in a seat of Lab’s choice, one in a seat of Tories’ choice, one in seat of Lib Dem’s choice. Audience to refelct voting in that seat at last election. Audience allowed to ask questions, clap, boo and throw eggs. Problem solved.

    • 546
      jgm2 says:

      That’s more like it. They get 35% (or whatever) of the popular vote but they want 50% card-carrying Labour members in the ‘audience’.

      That’s the Labour we know. 50% of the audience who will have been on several awaydays to drill them in co-ordinated heckling, singing and general disruption. Cheering every gobshite utterance from the Maximum Imbecile and drowning out Cameron with spontaneous cries of ‘toff’, ‘the many not the few’ and other fuckwitted soundbites.

      Cameron should not waste a moment preparing for these debates. It will be a fit-up on a scale pioneered by the Question Time show with N*ck Gri**in.

      Let Gordon prepare all he wants for these debates and then cry off sick. Or make some outrageous demands of his own that cannot be met and so cancel the whole panto. Cameron can only lose from here.

      Brown is just clinging to the ropes, waiting for the bell and hoping that Cameron slips on some blood and knocks himself out.

      • 552
        nell says:

        ‘The PM wants the audience packed with twice as many labour supporters as tories to reflect his commons majority’ Sky says!

        Wow! What a great moral compass this guy has!!!! You just have to admire labour’s decomposing sense of decency and honesty!!!

        • 555
          jgm2 says:

          How about we pack it with equal numbers of both to reflect the proportional representation he’s suddenly so fond of?

          Eh?

          Wanker?

          Eh?

        • 559
          Down with Brown! says:

          The Labour hierarchy want a mass debate. They expect us to all turn in to watch Brown wanking while chosen socialist scum cheer their champion. The problem for them is that we have watched Brown being a total wanker since June 2007 and we want change. Roll on May 6th.

        • 564
          Francis Futurama says:

          Labour are on the compost-heap of credibility, they should be dug-in around the runner-beans.

          As for Cameron, he will be on the funeral pyre of the fucked after the election, just like President Ob-La-Di-Ob-La-Da. Oh well, life goes on….

          • nell says:

            Sorry but I wouldn’t dig toxic labour in around my runner beans!!

            I want something much more nurturing, caring and beneficial than that at their roots.!

          • Francis Futurama says:

            When we are all reduced to living off what food we can grow in our back gardens, we will be glad for any shit we can get, however toxic.

            However, I did anticipate that someone would object to feeding their beans with Nu Labah foetidae! You could always sell them at a car boot sale!

        • 570
          Anonymous says:

          Decency and honesty has nothing to do with winning an election. It’s the right thing for the the self-serving bastards to do.

      • 560
        Natalie says:

        Can I join the audience? Dave refuses to return those films where I called him the 2 minute wonder. I need to question him.

    • 554
      Francis Futurama says:

      Audience should be permitted to use the occasion for practising with a cattapult.

      Can you believe the lengths this ego-trippimg nancy will go to to avoid the reality check that’s due to him?

      And Brown is just as bad.

      • 567
        nell says:

        Rotten eggs and rotting vegetables come to mind !!!!

        We should be allowed to throw them at him as he explains why he chose to allow our young men to go to war in Irag and Afghanistan without body armour, with guns that wouldn’t work in sandy deserts, without helicopters and in snatch landrovers that were as much protection from IED’s as matchboxes!!!!

        aintbustingagut – you are just as much to blame because you did not fight to get our lads the equipment they needed.

        You gave in to gordon’s bullying. You were afraid of him but more importantly you wanted to keep your profitable Minister’s position (£500K a year – wages and expenses )

        And you are still hanging in there – milking your position for every penny it’s worth . ‘Decent, honest, worthy man’ that you are!!!!

      • 568
        Down with Brown! says:

        Meanwhile we can only judge bonkers Gordon on his appearance in interviews:

        • 569
          Down with Brown! says:

          Or his earlier appearance on Question Time:

          • Francis Futurama says:

            How come this sag-jowelled prolapse is ruling over us, lecturing us through his quim-lips, siphoning the very cash out of our pockets to spray it over Yemen, trashing the mobile phones WE buy him?

            Everything he does is for a purely cynical and political purpose, everything is stitched up as tight as a nun’s fanny, nothing is done for the benefit of the good people of this country (and there are still many who have yet to emigrate).

            I despair, I utterly despair. Here he is, trying to weasel out of a TV debate – the PR equivalent of diving into a broom cupboard and praying. Any self respecting public figure with something good to say or a record to defend would be pleading for such media exposure, an opportunity to express personal appeal, but Brown is backing out, arguing for unreasonable demands that would not conceivably be met as a way of getting out of facing us ONCE AGAIN.

            The arseholes have taken over the toilet.

    • 603
      Moley says:

      No audience.

      Just the politicians and a camera or two.

      Otherwise it will be a farce, as is doubtless the intention.

      Why on earth is it necessary to have an audience?

      • 668
        Francis Futurama says:

        Nu Labah will also be demanding proportional audience representation on Question Time, no doubt. Then they will be demanding that queues at bus stops reflect the ‘ethnic diversity’ of the locality, and that people without a sufficient ratio of Nu Labah brain cells undergo enforced recombino-nuclear therapy to update their consciousness.

  89. 553
    No 10 Spin Machine says:

    If only Gordon had some redeeming features like good looks,style,self deprecating humour or even a driving licence.

    • 574
      nell says:

      Good looks, style or a driving license??!!

      How about a Real Moral Compass, Decency, Honesty, Substantial overall policy that showed us the way forward into the future rather than knee jerk reactions that are uncosted and off the cuff in an attempt to impress.

      How about some humility, less arrogance, more caring policies, less edballs, a sacking of aintbustinagut replaced with a more caring thoughtful Minister of Defence. And whilst we’re at it please get rid of postman pat and the straw man.

      Then brown you might, though I doubt it, have a government worth electing!!!!

      • 593
        Anonymous says:

        Good idea, Nell. But who would Gordon put in their places?

        Mandleson has already come back twice like the proverbial boomerang. He’ll be staying in the Lords because he knows which side his bread’s buttered.

        There’s always Fattie Prescott, James Purnell and Hazel Blears, not forgetting Patricia Hewitt and Geoff Hoon.

  90. 558
    Happyness Stan says:

    Yes Yes send them all to jail, and on and on.

    I have said this before, but it seems I need to say it again.

    IMO you have all missed the important point.

    Who is responsible for this corrupted and therefore highly corruptible system of financing our political representatives.

    Yes they should have all known better, but there again so should we all, and we voted for them. We all knew, or should have known, that they were ripping-off this or feather bedding that, people like myself have been stating such as fact for decades.

    WHO created the system, and helped perpetuate it for just so long?

    The simple answer, is the establishment, and the mass media which the establishment either owns or more indirectly controls.

    When the mass media finally comes out and tells us something that they and many of us have known for many years, we should all take serious note, and ask WHY are they telling us, and just as importantly WHY are they doing so NOW?

    Could it be that the establishment deliberately corrupted our politicians because they soon intended to make them effectively REDUNDANT?

    Because they are now effectively redundant, and many more then otherwise, could not now care less. However corruption on a systematically and relatively massive scale within the EU parliament, is hardly if ever mentioned. If it is ever mentioned, it is all but completely ignored .

    • 566
      Anonymous says:

      Apathy.

    • 578
      nell says:

      Time to read Dr Lee Rotherhams’s ‘ Ten Years On – Britain Without the European Union’

      Let’s free ourselves from all the dishonesty and corruption – the chaytor’s and his ilk in westminster and the kinnocks and their like in brussels.

      • 588
        Just asking says:

        But how does voting Conservative free us from the EU nell?

        • 599
          nell says:

          Sadly it doesn’t darling not yet!!

          One step at a time . Let’s get rid of this toxic, lying, dishonest labour government first.

          Then we’ll work out how to get rid of the toxic, lying, mega-troughing EU.

          • Just asking says:

            Do you have a cunning plan then? Or are we going to play it by ear.
            You are aware i take it, that the EU’s constitution exacts punitive measures against any country desiring to secede?

        • 661
          Happyness Stan says:

          I beg Nells forgiveness for answering that particular question for him.

          It most clearly will not.

          But what is most clear is that we would not be where we are now if we had not elected a Labour government under lying establishment owned puppets such as Tony and Gordon.

          This is because it had become clear to the powers that be that neither Thatcher would, nor Major could ever deliver a federal Europe. Which explains much. Like for example Soros conspiring with his chums to cause economic chaos, and the untimely, ( Or should I say extremely timely for some? ) demise of John Smith. Who at the time was having as almost as impossible time convincing his own existing group of MP’s of the merits of selling their own nation into the history books.

          But we did vote for these lying scum-bags, and what is worse we did so 3 consecutive times. Thanks, in no small way, to the combined efforts of The Guardian, The Daily Mirror, Sky News, The Daily Mail, The Conservative Party’s top brass, The Daily Telegraph, and all of the rest without exception, and last but not at all least, and as we can all I hope now fully appreciate, the establishments very own BB blood on their hands C.

          A maddest of mad conspiracy theories, or just the WAY IT IS, and has long since been. You decide, however don’t take too long doing so.

          • Never trust a hippy says:

            Do you really believe that the UK would be allowed to leave the EU? It’s too late now. Any attempt to back out of the project would feel the wrath of the fat controllers.

        • 716
          Salt n' Vinegar says:

          One battle at a time.

          Any vote other than for Conservatives, is a vote for Labour and Labour Treason.

          Step 1, kick out Labour and make sure they are tried and never able to damage our country again.

          Step 2, Once Labour (and any offshoot) is no longer a threat, vote for the party you want.

          • Deja Vu says:

            That’s what they said in ’51,’70 and ’79. As Labour said in ’45, ’64, ’74 and ’97.
            Got any better ideas?

      • 619
        Happyness Stan says:

        Nell you are a decent sort and I respect and agree with many of your comments.

        However please try to understand the true depths of the problem, because unless you fully understand who are, and what is the powers you are up against, you don’t have the slightest chance of even slightly denting their ambitions, never mind defeating them.

        The likes of Kinnock, Blair, Cameron, Obama, Bush, Mandalscum and all, are not the organ grinders. They are not even the organ grinders monkeys. They may be the organ grinders monkey’s toy puppet dogs bodies, but I suspect that that kind of highly elevated status in the great scam of things, deeply flatters them all.

        We did not get to where we are, and we will not get to where the powers that be plan to take us, because of the likes of a few selected corrupted windbags, crooks and trained deceivers. We will get to this place because the powers that be operate their magic from very much behind the curtains, and a fair way above, even the grandest rooms of multi-national corporate might.

        These people don’t even visit the White House, or garden shed as some of them are know to call it, in case they accidentally dirty or contaminate themselves with a trace of common humanity.

        • 632
          The Fen tigger says:

          Have you ever been to Norfolk? Think Albert Square with dykes and throw in the Walton’s binging on moonshine and you’re halfway up the A11 heading to Helmand in the forest.

          • nell says:

            Fen Tiger’s are not just common to Norfolk . The Fen’s stretch much further than that. Though I doubt labour knows anything about that – they are not into Rural after all!! This is the government that has absolutely destroyed farming and rural communities!!!!

            And I’m sorry to tell you but the A11 does not reach into Helmand although I suspect many labour folk, in their ignorance, think it does.

            No-one in labour knows anything much about the people of Great Britain outside of the urban communities of Birmingham, Liverpool or more importantly Scotland!!!!

          • nell says:

            In my working years I spent some time in Thetford Forest . It is traditionally the Gurkhas training ground. It is vast, dark, lonely and sometimes rather eerie and frightening.

            It would be good to take labour mp’s and turn them loose in there without a compass. Some might, as a consequence learning something useful about rural living, the rest hopefully just wouldn’t make it out.

          • Norfolk. The Brown Star State says:

            I’d be happy if they ran into the local “Deliverance” party activists.

  91. 562
    Ed Davey loves defrauding the taxpayer for his own campaigning ends says:

    http://paythemoneyback.blogspot.com/

  92. 581
    AC1 says:

    Is the Stern Review Junk Science?
    http://rogerpielkejr.blogspot.com/2010/01/what-tangled-web-we-weave.html

    There is another important story in involving the Muir-Wood et al. 2006 paper that was misrepresented by the IPCC as showing a linkage between increasing temperatures and rising damages from extreme weather events. The Stern Review Report of the UK government also relied on that paper as the sole basis for its projections of increasing damage from extreme events. In fact as much as 40% of the Stern Reivew projections for the global costs of unmitigated climate change derive from its misuse of the Muir-Wood et al. paper.

  93. 602
    The voters revenge says:

    Why do I despair about Britain and Labour?

    In no particular order -

    1. Illegal war in Iraq.

    2. Unelected Broon.

    3. Raid on pensions.

    4. Dr. Kelly cover up.

    5. 10 pence tax fiasco.

    6. Raid on peoples pensions.

    7. Uncrontrolled immigration as an attempt to minuplilate the social make up of the country. (WHY)

    8. Harriet Harman (WHY)

    9. Blaming the recession on the US which is to some extent correct but who regulated the British financial institutions.

    10. Anything else I have missed?

    • 620
      AC1 says:

      Massive TAX rises!

      Massive Client State of Benefit Addicts and non-jobs.

      Removal of Magna Carta rights.

      Torrent of silly Laws and economically harmful regulation.

    • 636
      Loreton says:

      11.Glasgow
      Without Glasgow Labour would be a fringe party.

    • 649
      Anonymous says:

      The Voters Revenge – Answers to point 7

      7. If migrants come into a country and they are offered everything on a plate, they will vote for whoever will keep them there. Simples.

      8. ‘Fraid I have no answer to this one. I can see no reason for her existence either.

    • 671
      Francis Futurama says:

      Repeating the words ‘hard-working families’ until my neuroimprinting mechanisms have retreated into the fifth dimension.

  94. 612
    Gordon ( SoldGoldAtThe ) BottomBrown says:

    My master-stroke of selling 400 tons of Gold Bullion reserves at $ 275 per oz, current price $ 1,100 per oz ??

    • 621
      Foxy Knox says:

      But the price of tungsten has remained steady.

    • 633
      Anonymous says:

      The selling off of the country’s gold reserves at an all-time low really was his finest hour. This is what people associate with Gordon Brown, while he struts around and purports himself as a World Statesman. No wonder the rest of the world is laughing at us.

      • 645
        BROWN WILL BE GONE BY APRIL HURRAH! says:

        Brown sold the gold cheap to destabilise the country’s finances to ensure parity with the Euro to give his party an excuse to ditch the pound.
        End of lesson.
        Gordon Brown is the enemy within.
        Gordon Brown is a traitor.

        • 655
          grobdj says:

          Any coincidence that the death penalty for treason was abolished a year into New Labour’s reign?

          • Happyness Stan says:

            No, it really was not a coincidence, very few things actually are. You never can be too careful when playing with FIRE, and never going to be tried for any crime, but very well tested, crooks, arsonists and mass murderers.

            If we are lucky we get to plan next years holidays.

            Our politicians plan for terms in office.

            Our establishment plan many decades in advance.

            However the people who control the establishment plan 100 or possibly 200 years in advance.

            Which is why they are STILL where they are, and very much intend to stay, and we are very much where they have always planned on keeping us. Which if you are still in any doubt, is as stupid, sick, ignorant, confused, divided, impoverished or permanently debt enslaved as they dare.

          • Francis Futurama says:

            yeah, well said Happyness

          • Salt n' Vinegar says:

            No. All part of the plan.

            Lisbon was Treason.

            The Immigration Invasion is Treason.

            Helping our enemies during wartime is Treason.

        • 726
          Groucho says:

          No he didn’t. He sold the gold cheap and made all the other blunders that he has because he is utterly incompetent.

          There isn’t a master plan. There isn’t a plan at all. We are just witnessing the Inspector Clouseau of politics stumbling from one calamity to another, all the while convinced of his own abilities

  95. 639
    not now Cato says:

    LibDems – neither Liberal nor Democratic

    They are just nulabour lite.

  96. 641
    The voters revenge says:

    Nell I want to marry you and have your babies.

    • 646
      Lebensborn says:

      As long as they’re all Tory Youth.

    • 651
      nell says:

      Who wants to produce babies in this disastrous labour car crash – let’s start to get the world right first – and by the way don’t think it will happen with cameron.

      He’ll be a step in the right direction maybe – but there’s a long long way to go.

      • 667
        A Coulson says:

        Crikey! Even nell is having doubts about Dave. I want another thousand billboards with the “We can’t go on meeting like this” message, rolled out across East Anglia.
        If we lose nell, we lose the nation.

        • 703
          Engineer says:

          The only reason the Cameron’s poll ratings are as good as they are is because he isn’t Brown. It’s the only credible (just) alternative to five more years of Nulab lunacy.

          We don’t need the heir to Blair, we need the heir to Thatcher. So far, we don’t have it. Dave will have to do, not because he looks like a leader in waiting, but because there’s no alternative.

      • 705
        Anonymous says:

        Nell, you do occasionally talk shite. Babies are not nor ever have been the problem. If you think that go and live in some socialist utopia like china where they kill them because their regime is incapable of feeding them. Its political ideology which inhabits production , not babies who are the means of production and talent.

      • 709
        Salt n' Vinegar says:

        Yeah Nell, help the country, remove yourself from evolution.

    • 665
      A Shrink says:

      Nell is a female.

      • 666
        nell says:

        Don’t worry about it. labour folk aren’t too bright about that side of things!!

        • 680
          Happyness Stan says:

          Dearest Nell, can I buy some oranges?

          If so where, when, how much, how long, and are they worth buying?

          • nell says:

            Oranges hmmm?! Probably better to look at banking shares – over the long term of course. But probably not RBS!!

            I wonder where gordon’s putting his money at the moment?

            biar I suspect is investing everything he has in America, He has, after all, endeared himself to the yanks by committing us and our troops to the Iraq War. In return they are now rewarding him, as he knew they would, in hundreds of thousands of dollars on their speaking circuit.

          • Happyness Stan says:

            No I think anything to do with FOOD is the only game in town worth playing. Pretty soon an allotment will seem like a life saver. Farmers will seem like Royalty with or with out the four wheel drive, or indeed the fuel to run it on.

            We are so incredibly fucked it truly defies description. Americans have a useful advantage over us lesser beings. They have a huge country which could at a pinch at least half feed itself. We on the other hand could in theory at least, virtually all starve within 3 months.

            Our money only has a purely illusionary value. A potato could be worth more then a 1 ct diamond by this time next year. I know a Polish Jew that once was glad to swap a 1ct diamond for just half of a potato back in 43.

            Ok let us not get carried away.

            After all we could just start eating each other, by this method the food supply/consumer ration will eventually even itself out. I hear the palace of Westminster has at around 650 over fed sheep like meat products that are completely surplus to requirement needlessly cluttering and smelling up the place. This would be a good place to start.

            Other then that America is going to be buggered almost as much as we are. There currency is about to reach parity with the Mexican Paso. Which is about as worthless as one of New Labours manifesto commitments. Not quite as worthless as the ones regarding the EU constitution, but I am sure you are getting the picture.

            OK DON’T PANIC it is not going to get quite that bad, or at least not for some while. I have full confidence that the British people will finally wake up so as to not allow things to get that bad, before will hang the lot of them. As you can plainly see I have always been obsessively over optimistic, and do not real the need to change now.

  97. 682
    The voters revenge says:

    Nell in spite of everything my troth is pure I still want to have your babies.

    • 687
      Happyness Stan says:

      VR

      With the greatest will in the world and even with the benefits of the best of modern science, I do believe that what you are indeed wishing for will still be very expensive, not to say painfully humiliating. Still it is 2010, we might not be taking holidays on Mars any time soon, but I am sure at least one National Socialism inspired medical professional would simply love to help you try it.

    • 693
      nell says:

      This, of course, is the absolute tragedy of this labour government. Produce babies -and the more the better because you can just claim more and more welfare benefits, the more children you have . No need to work or do anything useful with your life, just sponge off the state.

      Well if dave does one useful thing with his time in power , it will be to end this evil insidious payment of benefits to single mums and make people understand they have to do something useful and socially beneficial with their lives.

      • 695
        2+2 says:

        This situation hasn’t just sprung up in the last 13 years nell. It’s being going on since you and i were teenagers. Every successive government has conspired to bring about this scene of human desolation.

      • 702
        Colonel Nut says:

        But about a week ago,Dave,in a photo opportunity shown on Sky News,was holding a baby, looked up and said “Doesn’t it make you want another one.”Apart from being an ignorant but vote catching remark when one considers a national problem it also displayed ignorance or unconcern regarding a major problem of over population in the wider world.How much less the anguish of Haiti would be,for example,if it was not such a densely populated failed state.Is Dave likely to be any better in this area of short sighted human foolishness than those he will replace or or is political expediency what always counts for politicians.

  98. 694
    • 698
      nell says:

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1245713/Unease-Labour-insiders-fear-decision-hold-Iraq-inquiry-cost-voters-election.html

      labour is quite rightly afraid of the effect that Chilcott is going to have on their electoral chances .

      bliar is nervous and rightly so – I hope there are vast numbers of demonstrators as he appears at the Chilcott Enquiry on Friday .

      I also hope there are an equal number of angry demonstators when gordon appears in late February early March . Let’s not forget gordon was the one responsible for sending young men to Iraq without body armour, with sub standard rifles and in snatch landrovers that were of less use than a cardboard box!!

      And on top of that he pulled funding on helicopters that have left our lads in Afghanistan to die from IED’s ( 250 of them and counting!!) as they foot patrol around Afghanistan !!!

    • 699
      GORDON McBUST(and his amazing magic cheque book) says:

      More like national traitor !
      Never believed a word the C*nt said
      and dont forget he got away with Shredding his receipts

    • 714
      The Curse of Doctor Kelly says:

      You will wake up next to a hideous hag each morning for the rest of your life

  99. 701
    grdnon brwon-biggest turd in the universe says:

    so gordie want to rig the tv debates?

    what a surprise!

    the man that writes books on courage cannot stand up in front of the people he works for(allegedly) and act like a man….

    this creep is the most vile politician i think we have ever had……..

    EVERY single word or deed is a lie or deceitful act…….

    what a pleasure for us to have him swanning around the globe looking like a transexual with a lobotomy!!!!!

    forget the te**or alert about m*sl*ms and alky ada…………

    we need protection from the lunatics and creeps and hoons in westminster.

  100. 712
    Slightly pissed off says:

    How many zeros in a billion?

    This is too true to be funny.

    The next time you hear a politician use the
    Word ‘billion’ in a casual manner, think about
    Whether you want the ‘politicians’ spending
    YOUR tax money.

    A billion is a difficult number to comprehend,
    But one advertising agency did a good job of
    Putting that figure into some perspective in
    One of it’s releases.

    A.
    A billion seconds ago it was 1959.

    B.
    A billion minutes ago Jesus was alive.

    C.
    A billion hours ago our ancestors were
    Living in the Stone Age.

    D.
    A billion days ago no-one walked on the earth on two feet.

    E.
    A billion Pounds ago was only
    13 hours and 12 minutes,
    At the rate our government
    Is spending it.

    Building Permit Tax
    Cigarette Tax
    Corporate Income Tax
    Income Tax

    Vat Tax
    Unemployment Tax
    Fishing License Tax
    Food License Tax
    Fuel Permit Tax
    Petrol/Diesel Tax
    Hunting License Tax Inheritance Tax
    Inventory Tax
    (tax on top of tax)
    Liquor Tax
    Luxury Tax
    Marriage License Tax
    Property Tax
    Real Estate Tax
    Service charge taxes
    Social Security Tax
    Road Usage Tax
    Local Tax
    Vehicle License Registration Tax
    Vehicle Sales Tax
    Workers Compensation Tax
    Court fees

    STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY?

    Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago…
    And our nation was one of the most prosperous in the world.

    We had absolutely no national debt…
    We had the largest middle class in the world…
    And Mum stayed home to raise the kids.

    What happened?
    Can you spell ‘politicians!’

    I hope this goes around the
    UK
    At least 100 times
    What the hell happened?????

    Gordon Brown AND BANKERS, that’s What

    • 721
      albacore says:

      Even the word itself has been devalued.
      The original English definition of one billion was 1 million x 1 million.
      Now we use the American 1 thousand x 1 million.

      • 734
        TIME TO STOP FUCKING ABOUT AND START HANGING THE GUILTY says:

        A £ used to be worth one pound of sterling.
        Thanks to politicians and bankers a pound is now worth a pound of sugar.
        Politicians and bankers have destroyed our economy.
        They will have to be held accountable for their crimes against society and the economy before they fuck up our country beyond repair.
        If they are not held to account they will turn this once great country into a failed third world state.
        Hold on…. they already have.
        Somebody get the rope.
        Let’s start hanging these traitors, we can alternate between hanging a politician and then a banker.

    • 753
      AC1 says:

      Hmm, does it occur to anyone in politics that there’s an inverse relationship between economic growth and taxation?

      • 756
        AC1 Vermilion sky thinking says:

        There’s certainly an inverse relationship between you and reality.

        • 760
          AC1 says:

          So you think taxation is good for the economy?

          Wow, we found a live Marxist!

          • Pass the parcel says:

            So what’s the alternative? No tax? An Englishman’s home is his castle? Anything beyond that is no man’s land?
            Your fixation on the market is king is a Thatcherite legacy that turned the nation from a society of communities into a society of consumers. Who started the rollerball of deregulated markets and free movement of capital? Who perfected the movement of cabinet ministers to company boardrooms in double quick time? Who decreed that money was power?
            The fact that Blair took advantage of this money for nothing culture was in Thatchers own words her greatest achievement. Remember them? And in all scams there’s always a mug who gets left holding the booby prize. Who better than Gordon to get the hospital pass,after all he’s used to it having already taken a blow to the head in “The Man’s game”. Last time he only lost an eye,this time he carries the can for being the turkey under Bernard Matthew’s beaming gaze.
            Brown is the great patsy of our times. Think of him as the Timothy Evans of political justice. Meanwhile the Thatcher family, rich from sucking on the Arab tit, and the Blair family, along with the Kinnocks, rich from sucking on the EU tit, are convulsed with laughter, all the way to the bank.

          • pass the sick bucket says:

            The alternative is a lower flat rate tax

            you clueless commie fuckwit

          • Pass the parcel says:

            You missed the point, fuckwit.

          • pass the sick bucket says:

            You didn’t have fucking point fuckwit

    • 787
      an the rest says:

      You forgot insurance tax

      tax on your car insurance
      tax on your home insurance
      tax on your medical insurance
      tax on your loss of income insurance
      tax on your permanent health insurance

  101. 731
    • 735
      American and British Interests are not the same says:

      To this day our Generals have still not been told the American Army and Air Force’s rules of engagement.
      How can we be allies and act safely in tandem with them when we do not know that information?
      The fact we do not know puts our troops at risk from attack by the Americans and is criminally negligent on the part of our military leaders.
      Special relationship?
      Bullshit.

    • 752
      AC1 says:

      If you ask me it just shows what a load of crap the top rungs of the army/MoD are.

      It’s a War, you don’t have a cosy chat about it, you fight it.

      • 755
        Gunner Sugden says:

        Except if you’re a general in which case cosy chats are the front line, unlike the PBI.

  102. 742
    christy says:

    Just watched Betty Boothroyd being interviewd by Andrew Neil on hardtalk,what a load of common sense she talked,she doesn’t go with the idea of uni educated career politicians,as opposed to ordinary people going into politics to try to improve the lot of ordinary people.
    When you look at this disreputable lot we are currently lumbered with it is quite easy to see what she is getting at.Most of this current lot are fixated with how can I achieve my objectives of power and privilege and not be concerned with the lot of ordinary people other than to ask them to vote for us in the hope of creating a better future.
    Wake up sheeple you are being conned big style by the three major parties,although to be honest by the two parties seeing that the tree hugging sandal wearing windmill party of the LibDums are non starters in this race.
    So what are we to do regarding the future government of this once great country,well we have two choices vote labour or conservative,in the case of labour we can look forward to ever increasing state control of our everyday activities already well documented,or we can go conservative who to say the least are not convincing in their aspirations for this country.
    Cameron is an alternative to what we currently have but doe’s he have the balls to follow through I suspect not.
    Labour is a busted flush and will not win the next election,they have so much form that it is a forgone conclusion that they will lose and badly.
    Conclusion,cons victory but will we be better off absolutely not,different party but same end result you will be screwed.

    • 747
      Stumpy says:

      DAGNABIT. Hold up there young feller! In these here parts, them’s the words of a Brownskin. Folks round this neck of the woods don’t take kindly to bad mouthing Sheriff Dave and his deputy Snake Eyed Gideon. ‘Course some of us old timers think he’s called Snake Eyes on account of his mesmerised rabbit in the lamplights stare facing the Clanton socialists down at the OK Commons corral. But word has it he’s mighty quick on the drawing of expenses.
      The good people of this here town just want to see justice served by stringing up that no good thieving savage Gordonimo, and his tribe of renegade a patchy cabinet, and see ‘em dancing at the end of a rope. A Hee,hee,hee,hee.
      Now quit bellyaching and load that scattergun. Sun up’s due anytime soon and your gonna need all the firepower of the Alamo. A Hee,hee,hee,hee.

    • 751
      caesars wife (in thought) says:

      “the balls to follow through ” good headline for the sun , wheres the full report !

  103. 744
  104. 745
    A Jolly Good Chap says:

    The terror threat has been raised to severe. Elections coming in May, no I mean martial law coming in May.

    mark my words. 1+1=2.

  105. 750
    caesars wife (in thought) says:

    CW couldnt help but think David Milliband , had dusted down the Blair dinner jacket , popped it on and squeezed into one of the few remaining escape pods , “message to crane i am inside hatch secure , lift !. Clear of the ruins disaster , now left (crane swings him into yemem) ow ow ow good lord man what are doing , now go right (crane swings him straight into coup letter) ow ow ow , dam and blast what are you doing up there !” .

    Chillcott ready for the traffic stopping ex PM , bobs election date gaff , and lord myners bankster regrets , might as well say sorry i didnt realise we were ruining the country and sending millions into dumbed down delerium and debt , on behalf of the marxists “it was nae me” .

    But then milliband got my back up “we have done a lot on climate change” .CW is very mindfull that the greens have been living off poor govt funded science and made up stories , right up to the big players at the UN climate panel , who curiously admitted the glacier melting was ripped from an article that merely suggested they could melt , and it was a mistake .
    Being as literally millions of people brought into the man made climate change idea (I did) , “its a mistake” seems all too lite . I mean how do you tell if it wasnt just a lie , and then it brings about the other consequential thoughts on what else has been lies ?.

    At first thought lieing to millions of educated people seems too fantasic , but then you think back on the ruins endless non answers in PMQs and you kind of get the idea that rather like a slime mycobacterium , how a lie may creep into new areas of food , before setting about the task of dissolving it , gradually eating away and weaking the structures . Socialism is perhaps not so much a revolution , but a process of self promoting rot .

    I just wonder what else they have lied about .Milliband says Britain is not broken , yet we are very nearly financially broke , and then ices the cake by saying that after 13 years hes going to offer real change , do i conclude from this line that over the last 13 yrs we have somehow not had the real thing .
    I rather feel Mr Milliband real change offering , will somehow want to airbrush over the past numerous lies in the waste of money or in what Labour were using it for . Of course utopia cost money to build , but you would have hardly expected so many millionaires ruling liberals to be occupying the penthouse flats , whilst simoultainiously consigning so many to live on the toxic scraps left over and whatever doggy bags were left over from all the spin/focus groups lavish expensive lunches.

    Darling is going to cut big state pay packets and bounues , but no figures , just want to stem the influx of debt with whatever he put his hand to in his pocket , 2 and half years after he should have acted , just as he realises its sinking , he thinks he should do somthing ! so as not to panic the voters .

    best laugh for me today was on lord Tebbits blogg one responder to fabian solutions just posted fabricated solutions , Cw though how very apt .

    • 785
      rules rule says:

      Put the kettle on luv

      p.s.
      rule 3 of the internet – the longer the post the more likely it is to be shite

  106. 767
    Hazel Blearyeyed says:

    Come on Guido! I’ve sat up especially for Rich and Mark’s Monday morning gem.

  107. 769
    MingeMunchersRus says:

    Three cups of assam later and it still hasn’t come hazel .. is your snatch really as bright as your thatch ?

  108. 777
    Minekiller says:

    …and I thought I hated Labour…..

  109. 783
    DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

    It’s not just the LibDems who claim for party political stuff on expenses. When I looked at my MP’s expenses (Siobhain McDonagh, Labour), there were some things there that looked deeply party political.

    I suspect it’s pretty widespread.



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