January 22nd, 2010

Osborne Misled Today Show

On the Today programme this morning Osborne described claims that the Tories would increase road tax to pay for tax breaks for married couples as “bizarre”, saying “it bears no reality to our thinking in this area”.

Hold on, what is this from page 4 of the Tory “Plan for a Strong Economy”?

Looks like a green tax to reduce other taxes on families.  How bizarre…


485 Comments

  1. 1
    GEORGIE PEORGIE says:

    We’re all at it together.

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    • 2
      Only asking says:

      pst who’s your dealer?

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      • 22
        Natalie Rowe says:

        … when you find out I will break his legs

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        • 350
          Gordon's favourite Butt Plug says:

          “Those who vote, count for nothing; those who count the vote, count for everything”

          — Joseph Stalin

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          • Bring our boys home says:

            Osbore is a Bilderberger, he is missleading the whole country as his masters are not the electorate but a group of bankers, mainly the Rockafellas and the Rothschilds(think boats and Mandy – all on the same team!).

            The very same people who have driven the undemocractic totalitarian EU forward against the wishes of the European people.

            The very same people pushing the Big global warming lie in order to tax and control the whole world.

            The same group that collapsed the economy and then got the public into unrepayable debt to these loan sharks for a debt that is not the publics but private banks.

            The bilderberg puppets like Osbore, fat Ken, ballbag won’t be telling you that anytime soon!

            Osbore will be their most willing slave.

            The Conservatives, like Obumma will be rumbled as NWO Bilderberg banker stooges that they are within one year of office.

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          • Ed Balls says:

            Me and Brown and Mandelson are Bilderbergers too!

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    • 112
      Old Nick Heavenly(real dimwit) says:

      BREAKING NEWS AT 105 FROM YOUR BELGIAN CORESPONDENT

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      • 165
        The Great Khazi of Afghanistan says:

        Why would any reputable broadcaster have a Belgian correspondent?

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        • 184
          Old Nick Heavenly(real dimwit) says:

          My resignation is in the post and of immediate effect!

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          • Old Nick Heavenly(real dimwit) says:

            It just clicked!

            they are crazy for topiary in Belgium!

            I might just do a survey of the ladies at Tai Chi viz a vis the ‘topiary’!

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        • 190
          Kings Heath Lad says:

          To be fair despite the fact that all their women have a under arm ‘Topiary Problem’, they are the perfect host for a bloody good war, WW1, Azincourt, Waterloo etc

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          • Old Nick Heavenly(real dimwit) says:

            Battle of Bastogne, WWII a part of the Battle of the Bulge, all over my neck of the very large woods.

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          • Kings Heath Lad says:

            The lists endless, it causes a big problem with building regs with war graves and deep plough farming due to all the un expl*ded amo.
            I had a mate a few years ago who told me his father had been injured fighting at the age of 14 during the battle of the Bulge, it took me a while to realise what side he was on, desperate times for the Germans at that point of the war.

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          • Sting's Beard says:

            Interesting enough if you go back far enough that part of Flanders used be a part of the Spanish Netherlands. This Spanish Belgian Axis is looking like an almighty stitch up. Maybe its retaliation for the film In Brugges

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      • 180
        Old Nick Heavenly(real dimwit) says:

        Well nobody seems surprised at all!

        Obviously my misunderstanding, Thought that the rotating Presidency was to end!

        Wrong again!

        got all excited for nothing!

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        • 186
          The Great Khazi of Afghanistan says:

          Oh right see what you mean. Well if youre going to have one unelected dimwit in charge you might as well have two.

          Mind you I hear that Belgium survived 18 months without a government recently, thats nearly as long as my country.

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          • Old Nick Heavenly(real dimwit) says:

            I recall Israel being without a goverment for a long time and the economy boomed.

            They got a government and the economy went backwards.

            Is there something to be learnt here?

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          • resurgemus says:

            Nick

            is the beer strike over yet ?

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          • Budgie says:

            Well, if the Tories get in we will have two dimwits in charge. And it is impossible for Osborne to mislead anyone – because he does not know what he is doing in the first place.

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          • Old Nick Heavenly(real dimwit) says:

            Belgium is indeed set to take over the EU.

            In 6 months both EU presidents will be Belgian!

            Then you will laugh on the other side of your faces!

            They will be sending luxembougish Bofferding beer to the United Condom and you will be forced to drink it or accept the euro as your currency!

            By God it’s ‘delicious’. One sip and you will surrender sterling without any resistance!

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          • Old Nick Heavenly(real dimwit) says:

            2 comments in mod; it does not like the sound of a particular Luxembourgish beer that I mentioned!

            It’s a real ‘treat’ is B………

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          • Old Nick Heavenly(real dimwit) says:

            Res the other 999 breweries are still working!

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          Old Nick Heavenly(real dimwit) says:

          Resergemus

          The other 999 breweries are still working.

          The same brewery is going to close the Diekirch brewery in Diekirch, GD Lux.

          the Burgers will simply stop drinking Diekirch.

          That will only leave Bofferding, the worst beer anywhere, as a GD lux brewery!

          have you ever drunk Bofferding? it is undescribably bad!

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      • 185
        Anonymous Misogynist says:

        It keeps Spain in the G20..

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    • 130
      Anonymous says:

      The made up policy may match the commitment, but I fail to see AAGH GET RID OF THE ROLLOVER ADS … anyway.. fail to see how just because it matches means he misled people when he said they weren’t doing that.

      I could suggest that they are going to tax farts in order to give mothers £50 – it fits their bill but has no basis in reality.

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    • 133
      Dave's Cast iron is Brittle. says:

      Another Cast Iron guarantee broken.

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    • 169
      Osama the Nazarene says:

      Said Harry Cohen the liebor trougher.

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  2. 3
    Steve Expat says:

    Guido, there’s a big difference between “Taxes on families” and the recognition of marriage in the tax system, the latter being only a small fraction of the former.

    Why is everyone so determined to undermine the Tories’ popular policy even before it’s been announced what they will do?

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    • 24

      There are no good taxes. Taxes are endured, and not welcomed. So politicians should not be so quick to put more taxes on us. Does that help?

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      • 39
        Steve Expat says:

        You’re right that taxes should be kept to a minimum.

        This would be somewhat easier of the government wasn’t £800,000,000,000 in debt by its own figures, and more than double that by the figures of others.

        The next couple of years are going to be shit, spending has to fall and taxes have to rise…

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        • 53
          Sting's Beard says:

          No country in world history has ever got richer by taxing itself more!! Tax may shuffle the deck but it does not increase the number of cards in the pack!!

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          • Steve Expat says:

            You’re right that tax rises are not ideal, but with the debt at £800bn and increasing at £200bn a year, it’s either tax’n’cuts or the IMF come visiting.

            Shit choice I know, but it’s the choice the next government will have to make…

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          • Sting's Beard says:

            Dont ell anyone, KEEP IT TO YOURSELF, but I heard that the IMF is broke. We’ve been stitched up like a kipper

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          • INTERNATIONAL MONETARY FUND says:

            We’ve got no money either.
            We’re as insolvent as the UK.

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          • THE WORLD BANK says:

            Same here dude.
            We are totally potless as well.
            I suppose we will have to beg some dollars from the Chinese.
            They’ve got loads of cash.

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          • 40 Shilling Horse says:

            Stuff it, I’m going down the pub, I may be some time.

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          • Warren Buffett says:

            I think I’ll see you, I’m skint too cant spare a daim

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          • The Rockefeller's says:

            Well dont look at us, were down to our last $100bn

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          • The Great Khazi of Afghanistan says:

            Looks like I’ll have to sort it all out again. When will you westerners cease to be so dependent on my benificence.

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      • 50
        Archer Karcher says:

        Popular???

        Green taxes like VAT are the most regressive form of taxation, they are disproportionately harmful to the weakest and poorest in society.
        That ZaNuLabia would consider such utterly viscious shite is understandable given their track record of punishing the poorest in society.
        Dismal Dave and Gideon are going to punish the poor as well, because the EU has said they have to.

        What mendacious creeps they are.

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        • 74
          Steve Expat says:

          Disagree. Take avay very discretionary spending such as that on alcohol and tobacco, and the poorest in society pay very little VAT due to the exemptions and zero rated goods.

          A raise in VAT to 22.5% will raise around £25bn over the existing £17.5% rate, that would require the basic rate in income tax to go up from 20% to about 30% in order to achieve the same revenue.

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          • Summer_Breeze says:

            So what about VAT on fuel – gas, electricity and petrol Steve, not to mention plenty of other things. Contrary to your assertion, the poorest in our society are absolutely hammered by VAT and I’m not talking about luxuries here. Just everyday items that people need.
            Don’t forget also, that a rise in the basic rate of vat on petrol/diesel will cause the price of food to rise to pay for the extra, further hitting the people that can least afford it.

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          Budgie says:

          “Green” taxes means we have arrived back in the 1970s where the government picked “winners” (ha ha ha ha). Now the government takes money off you and me – depriving us of the right to decide for ourselves – and buys a load of useless windmills because we are too thick to appreciate AGW. Groundnut anyone?

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          Scootaboy says:

          Sorry been on a bender for a few weeks whats all this the UK is skint what you lot on about Gordo and Mandelbum say were in great shape and anyway they will sort it all out for us no probs or do you think they are telling fibbs ?????

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    • 35
      Ken Lorp says:

      The Tories are making a big mistake in playing the ‘increase this tax to reduce that tax’ game. Fact is that most families also pay road/fuel taxes, so the right hand giveth, the left hand taketh away.

      As the National Audit office said today, it would be ridiculous not to consider big cuts to health and education and from speaking to doctors they all recount enormous levels of waste in the system.

      Dave needs to grow some balls and stop talking bullshit. Let’s have the honest debate.

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    • 40
      Jedi says:

      So green taxes are not for green stuff then.

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      • 73
        Gordon's favourite Butt Plug says:

        Never have been and certainly never will be. The cynical bastards refer to them as a ‘feel good’ tax. Like it doesn’t hurt. Doing our bit to have a common purpose in saving the Planet. They get the money and even though they raise the tax take, it is harder for people to complain, or more importantly for the Labour Party to bitch about it, because it isn’t raising Income Tax. A complete con, and it gives them more control, and authority.

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        • 134
          Millioniares's Tax Evaders Club (AKA Tory Party) says:

          Green taxes do feel good. For millionaires.
          We don’t pay ‘em, only the peasants do!
          It’s a good trick, isn’t it?

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          • Gordon's favourite Butt Plug says:

            Explain fully. Or it just looks like you are automatically gainsaying.

            College finishes early to-day doesn’t it?

            A full weekend of groping, fumbling, staggering and puking.

            Good news is that Boots have a good offer this weekend on Clearasil for all those troublesome zits.

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          • Gordon The Great! Och Eye. says:

            @19:54 er, so why is Gordon Brown so keen on ‘green’ taxes?

            I’m Gordon Brown,
            a stupid old clown
            everyone frowns
            when I come around

            och the noo, och the noo
            I’m full,
            of poo poo poo.

            I’m Gordon Brown,
            poll ratings fall
            so I shout and I bawl,
            and throw Nokias at walls.

            och the noo, och the noo
            I’m full,
            of poo poo poo.

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          • Millioniares's Tax Evaders Club (AKA Tory Party) says:

            Explain?
            Well, millionaires zoom around the world pumping out emissions from their private jets and avoiding all that pesky customs hassle and they do not pay a bean in tax on their fuel.
            The peasants do when they go to Marbella though.
            Join the Tory Millionaires’ Club for plenty more tax dodges.
            Our Manifesto is full of such wheezes, tricks and tax evasionary techniques.
            We look after our own. The peasants can kiss our backsides and pay our way.
            Fuck them.

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      • 247
        Glaswegian says:

        40,Jedi has stumbled on the key. The tax will be on anything green, eg cabbage, beans,brocoli, green doors, green roofs, moss on paths.
        A political master stroke.

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    • 360
      THE THIRD ROUNDEL says:

      The Tories are rapidly becoming the party of high taxation.

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  3. 4
    Anonymous says:

    Road Tax =/= Green Tax. So, no he didn’t.

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      Gordon's favourite Butt Plug says:

      He is being hung out to dry on Road Tax, when the website says green tax. Just as bad a concept but could be quite different.

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    • 76
      Dry Martini says:

      The problem with “green” taxes is that government revenue becomes dependent on people doing naughty things. So if the tax makes people virtuous you have a fiscal deficit and if they don’t you have a crap environment.

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        Sting's Beard says:

        Which is precisely the reason why tax should never be used to alter peoples behaviour!!

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          Gordon's favourite Butt Plug says:

          Those who vote count for nothing; those who count the vote count for everything
          — Joseph Stalin

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  4. 5
    Friday_Slippers says:

    You mean Ozzy can actually THINK?

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  5. 6

    There are other Green Taxes other than Car Tax. Guido you’re getting tiresome and I don’t even support Osbourne.

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      Archer Karcher says:

      “There are other Green Taxes other than Car Tax.”

      All green taxes are as dishonest and harmful as each other.
      They do nothing except increase poverty, without any benefit whatsoever.
      The wholely fictitious charade that carbon is in some way going to end life on Earth, is the biggest bucket of hogwash ever.
      Christ almighty, even people with a rudimentry education, can understand that the theory is utter cock, yet Call Me Dismal and Co, still do not get it.

      They are either idiots or liars, there are no other options.

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    Irene says:

    Stop being so mischievous.

    Read what the Tories actually say.

    “We are still committed to the Family Fund for any new tax that is designed principally as an environmental tax to change behaviour. But as George Osborne said we have no plans to use higher green taxes to fund our marriage commitment.”

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    • 13
      Talwin says:

      It won’t look like that when the BBC have finished with it.

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      • 77
        Archer Karcher says:

        “any new tax that is designed principally as an environmental tax to change behaviour.”

        Creepy uber fascists mk2 speak.

        Translation: We are going to micro manage your life just like the rotten bunch of arsehole in government now. It`s not that we want to of course, but we have to save the planet from “evil” carbon.

        Liars and frauds the lot of them.

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    • 66
      Anonymous says:

      What is that supposed to mean? Can someone explain what it means?

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      • 189
        Unsworth says:

        Not to you. When does the remedial reading course finish?

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        • 322
          Budgie says:

          David walked up the hill to collect the green tax.
          George walked up the hill to collect the green tax.
          Did you see George collect the green tax?

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    Anonymous says:

    Guido, Osbourne should push through as much green legislation as possible, whether he misleads the public or not. It is essential to save our planet from Global Warming.

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      John McEnroe says:

      What Global Warming? ” You can not be serious”

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      concrete pump says:

      I’m not going to pay a green tax based on ‘science’ concocted by chimp fuckers.

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        Jack Straw's dad who didn't fight in the war. says:

        Green taxes my arse! They are just another con to make us pay more tax and don’t have any reduction on global warming. When I see pix of China, India and the good old USA belching out thousands of tons of glug and then listen to the tree-huggers saying I shouldn’t leave my telly on stand-bye I just have a good laugh.

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        • 62
          Millionaires' Tax Avoidance Club says:

          Shit I think the peasants are figuring out this green tax scam was designed specifically so we millioniares could palm off our tax obligations to the poor and the middle class.
          Looks like the game is up for us. We will have to pay our fair share for a change.
          Bollocks.

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          • Peasant says:

            I don’t drive, don’t catch planes, I live in fuel poverty, I walk to work and am a vegetarian.
            So as I have no carbon footprint that must mean I get a rebate from the government, doesn’t it?
            No?
            Well it’s just a big fucking scam then, isn’t it?

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          • King John says:

            Shit how was I supposed to know everyone would jump on the band wagon for ripping off the serfs, I only did it to piss off my brother Richard, where’s Robin Hood when you need him?

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          • Just saying says:

            It’s hardly game over, it’s a democracy, carry on as usual

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          • Billionaires Tax Avoidance Club says:

            I have just bunged Michael Mann $2.4 million to keep him onside and generate some more phoney hockey sticks. The last ones did not predict ten years cooling which we have just had. I think the plebs have not noticed anything yet though. Ta ta must dash, taking my private jet to the Bahamas, carbon footprint on the mug punters of course, ha ha ha, how we all laugh at the believers, at my parties.

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          • Sheriff of Nottingham says:

            I was a sweetheart compared to Gordon Brown.
            Give a dog a bad name. It’s just not fair.

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          • Hamish Macbeth says:

            Oh did you fly by private jet to Copenhagen too !!!

            Bloody good shindig – I had my stretched limo take me to all the sites.

            The champagne was lovely – and we had tiger prawns flown in from the Indian Ocean too !!

            Now – how are we going to reduce other peoples carbon footprint ?

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          • Kings Heath Lad says:

            Hamis, by attaching a Kinetic energy generator to every politician’s right wrist to generate electricity.

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      • 150
        Tat's Somalian boyfriend #2 says:

        Wasssssssup! :-p

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    • 93
      Number 7 says:

      Tosser

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    • 367
      THE THIRD ROUNDEL says:

      Green taxes will undermine the Tories who now have an unlimited appetite to tax everything.

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    • 409
      Summer_Breeze says:

      What utter bollocks! Go and give your head a damn good shake!

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      • 410
        Summer_Breeze says:

        Just to clarify, my comment at 408 was aimed at Anonymous @ 8, who must be one of the few gullible idiots, that still swallow the AGW con, hook, line and sinker.

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    The Laird says:

    Ah, the Telegraph brought this to my attention today saying that there was a document on Conservative site.

    So, it’s true!

    Have they heard of Hari kari?

    I think I’m giving up on Dave and Boy George.

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  9. 10
    anon,anon,anon.... says:

    What about a Noisy Sex Tax?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wear/8473974.stm

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  10. 11
    George W Osborne says:

    I’m afraid I was always a bit of a dunce with figures, don’t you know.

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      Talwin says:

      Him and Jack Straw both.

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      Budgie says:

      Looks like all MPs are dunces when it comes to numbers, judging by the instruction booklet issued to them by the Commons authorities which shows them how to use the percentage key on a calculator.

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  11. 14
    Anonymous says:

    Green taxes aren’t necessarily car taxes…let’s give GO a chance. Let’s face it he must be an improvement on Darling & McDoom!

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    • 20
      Gormless Clown says:

      So there is going to b a flat-rate road tax regardless of fuel or engine capacity?

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    • 29

      “…must be an improvement…”

      How can he be if he is planning to tax us MORE? he’s just bluLabour.

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      • 56
        Steve Expat says:

        Because we are £800,000,000,000 in debt, that’s why.

        Tax will be going up, spending will be coming down…

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        • 110
          Millionaires' Tax Avoidance Club (AKA The Conservative Party) Treasurer: Gideon Osborne(Millionaire) says:

          Don’t worry Steve Expat, as long as you are a millionaire we will look after you.
          You aren’t a millionaire?
          Oh, well you’re fucked then.
          Sorry. Tough break.

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          • Steve Expat says:

            It will get a lot worse for everyone before it gets better, millionaire or unemployed.

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          • Budgie says:

            And just who got us into this position? It wasn’t Liebore was it? Oh dearie me, no, it couldn’t be old ‘eyebags’ McDoom? And who was the bankers friend who knighted them all and bailed them out with our money? Not McRuin – impossible, surely? And ran up deficits so that the taxpayers are having to bail out the government? It couldn’t be McDebt? Could it?

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  12. 16
    British Militia says:

    The Tories are socialists. Uner them, real total government spending will increase, as will taxes and the general size and scope of government.

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  13. 18
    Lil Olmey says:

    Sounds to me like robbing Peter to pay Pauline.

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  14. 19
    Anonymous says:

    Osborne is shit.

    Get Ken Clarke on the case..

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  15. 21
    Mr Plum says:

    That was before the global warming scam was uncovered.
    Bit odd thinking though to tax families for using their car or going on a plane then to give it back in a tax break.
    I appreciate that something has to be done to help people that strive to do the right thing, at the moment they are being penalised, more due to the law of unintended consequences than anything else.

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    • 347
      Budgie says:

      Come on, if you keep trying to simplify the tax system like that the government would not need to employ so many bureaucrats – and then where would we be? Oh ….

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  16. 23
    stevie says:

    shouldnt green taxes be used for”green stuff”? Or its just another tax (or fine)

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  17. 25
    streamfisher says:

    The only logical conclusion that you can come to unfortunately is that they are all living in Cloud Cuckoo Land.

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  18. 27
    Anonymous says:

    He was just shooting a line.

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  19. 28
    Sharon & Ozzie Osborne says:

    We beg you to leave our “wee” George alone.
    He has suffered enough this week for goodness sake.
    The moths came out of his wallet when he had to repay an expense overcliam

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    Rant_Against_the_Green says:

    While the Indians continue to burn as much coal as they like!

    Not on your Nelly!

    Green Taxes for the whole world – or none at all!!

    The Cons must not even think of duping us any farther!

    Stupid Green Tory Policies = UKIP Votes

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  21. 32
    genghiz the kahn says:

    another reason for removing mps’ allowances for petrol expense claims.

    let ossie and other tory Hunts cope with the same taxes which hit the rest of us.

    ossie needs to find ways of increasing tax revenues, not the tax burden.

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  22. 33
    Moley says:

    The lesson is a simple one.

    Piecemeal announcements on taxes and benfits will always fall apart.

    The only approach that can work is an integrated approach that starts from the beginning and dovetails all taxes and all benefits in a coherent fashion with clear policy aims.

    What will happen to all those green taxes and congestion charges when everybody has an electric car? Will they be scrapped?

    Will they hell. Stop conning us. We’re not that stupid.

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    • 65
      Sting's Beard says:

      I’ve got an integrated cohesive and fully costed way of cutting tax, its called LEAVE THE EU NOW!!

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  23. 36
    angelnstar says:

    http://cyberboris.wordpress.com/2010/01/18/boris-bans-plastic-bags/

    If people listen to Boris and ban usage of all thin plastic bags, we might not need so many green taxes. Boris would like the thin plastic bags to have disappeared by 2010, the Olympics. This would clean up our fair city, reduce landfill and greenhouse emissions and protect our wildlife.

    This is a genius crusade, and one we all can easily contribute to, just reuse and recycle, and Boris will love you for it.

    The payoff is, not so many green taxes necessary, everybody wins.

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    • 42
      Gormless Clown says:

      Problem with thin plastic bags is that you have to use two of them otherwise all your stuff falls out and lands on the footpath.

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    • 60
      Max says:

      Not as sensible as it appears:

      1. Reduction in plastic shopping bags = increase in purchase of bin liners (see Ireland)

      2. Plastic bags and wildlife link spurious; research it properly online (old French Canadian report, mistranslated; plenty of other cr@p in the sea)

      3. As the GC says, the thinner they are the more get used

      No problem with being sensible eg re-using or recycling but “green taxes” are not about being sensible, they are about finding a way to tax people so they don’t moan. Give it a couple of years and the “green” bit will be dropped and replaced with fairy pixie dust tax or something…

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      • 71
        Sting's Beard says:

        Gordon to Alistair ” Why dont we put a 10p tax per email or each search you do on Google we can levy it through the ISPS”

        Alistair “What a great idea PM” I will get my best Power Geek working on it straight he away. By the way he’s Chinese”

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    • 393
      Nick2 says:

      Everyone i know uses them as refuse bags – why should we be compelled to buy dustbin bags to throw away our rubbish?

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  24. 37
    GORDON McBUST(and his amazing magic cheque book) says:

    The Tories really dont want to win the election
    They are fucking Clue Less
    Looks like 4 more years of McBust !

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    • 163
      Brixjac says:

      Problem is that except for a few paranoid people on right-wing/liberatian blogs most people accept MMGW and they accept that nearly all parties that get in will push a green agenda. So saying they will introduce green taxes is def. not a way to lose an election!

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      • 365
        Budgie says:

        It is typical that an AGW believer fails to quote any evidence to back up his assertions.

        “The ICM survey for The Sunday Telegraph will dismay proponents of “man-made” climate change …. 39 per cent said climate change had not yet been proven to be man made, while seven per cent simply denied the phenomenon was happening at all. Furthermore, fewer than one in four voters (23 per cent) believed that climate change was “the most serious problem faced by man””

        “A few … people … ” Duh!

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  25. 43
    Ghost of Syd says:

    Earth to Cameron: dump yer boyfriend Osborne and put Hammond in.

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  26. 46
    The Beast of Clerkenwell says:

    Fawkes
    It was good of you to get banned from driving, your carbon footprint is so much smaller these days

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    • 85
      Steve Expat says:

      …and think how much more alcohol tax he pays now too – assuming Guido doesn’t do all his drinking the tax-free HoC bars these days!

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  27. 47
    Anonymous says:

    Iraq government spends £52million on magic beans to protect soldiers from bomb attacks:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/8471187.stm

    I wonder if the Iraqi government have been taking advice from Gordon Brown?

    “the wizard told me it’d work. it’s magic you see.”

    GET OUR SOLDIERS THE FUCK OUT OF THERE.

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    • 64
      Gormless Clown says:

      “The blast left him with injuries to his face and limbs, and damaged his take-away falafel store.”

      I’ve never heard it called that before

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      • 396
        Nick2 says:

        Shameless snake oil. Apparently Jim McCormick has been arrested. Put him on a security detail in Iraq!

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    • 69
      GORDON McBUST(and his amazing magic cheque book) says:

      This fucker should be handed over to the Iraqis for a bit of Arab justice
      he has been left alone because in the EYE of McBust He’s an Entry Pruner
      who pays tax so labour don’t give a fuck !

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  28. 49
    Don't_Panic_Oligarks_Ahoy says:

    %-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-%

    Who do you think you are kidding Mr Ozzie?

    If you think we’re daft or dumb!

    We are the boys who will botch your little Gains!

    We are the boys who will Sink your Yacht again!

    So who do you think……… etc.

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    • 83
      Sting's Beard says:

      I once saw Oleg and the Oligarchs on the pier at Hastings. They were support band to Taliban techno. Strange gig!

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  29. 51
    GORDON McBUST(and his amazing magic cheque book) says:

    Any MP who has been found to have over claimed is Unfit to sit in parliament They have commited fraud and should be banned from standing
    So there should be at least 600 new MP’s after the election !

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  30. 54
    mungle says:

    So give married couples a tax advantage and because at least one of the couple is likely to be an owner driver hammer them with a “green tax” ? But how can it be a “green tax” if it’s being used to give married couples a tax advantage. And look guys the “green tax” scam has been exposed now, best to reluctantly drop it.
    Or are you hoping that labour will win. Whatever, do drop the “green tax” waffle now!!

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  31. 58
    mungle says:

    Taxes may have to rise as a result of the state of the economy, but please spare us the “green tax” bullshit even if you are just following eu orders.

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  32. 78
    allan akhbar says:

    the uk is well and truly fucked.13 years old ‘labour’ and we are broke……

    and this time industry only makes up 11% of the economy……..

    tax this tax that.the only solution!!!!!!!!

    how about creating wealth?
    stop taxing jobs!!!!!!

    stop offshoring our jobs to the 3rd world!
    stop giving our money away!
    stop selling all our assets to foriegners!

    get the fucking money back from the banks!!!!!!!

    STOP THE GOVERNMENT SPENDING LIKE CRAZY AND MOVING THE GOALPOSTS ALL THE TIME WITH ‘CREATIVE ACCOUNTING’………..

    The shit hasnt really started yet..just wait for the vat rise-higher fuel and interest rates………..

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  33. 79
    TheCourtOfPublicOpinion says:

    Don’t be too hard on poor little diddums, he’s never had a job doncha know.

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  34. 81
    Anonymous says:

    Perhaps you’d like the fucking shirt from my back while you are at it, you tax happy bastards.

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  35. 84
    Vote Blue go Green says:

    Now you know you will all pay like good little law abiding Tories.

    Dave and George know best and you will just have to bite the bullett.

    Social engineering is doesn’t come cheap!

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  36. 87
    Carry On Don't Lose Your Head (1967) says:

    What’s with all these green taxes? ‘Green’ taxes are anything but.

    To pay tax you have to earn money. The tree huggers would have us believe that to make money you have to pollute poor mother earth and poison her with CO2. It’s pretty clear that an individual can spend money more efficiently than their thieving government. So, if you want less pollution and global warming, CUT TAXES!

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    • 96
      caesars wife (on board the dust cart) says:

      I was wondering when someone would point out avatar is only a movie .

      Like

  37. 88
    George W Osborne says:

    Can anyone tell me if I have to pay tax on Aunt Dahlia’s allowance? It would seem jolly unfair if I did, when the old trout is so beastly to me.

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  38. 90
    DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

    Gosh, you mean a politician told porkies? How absolutely shocking!

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  39. 92
    caesars wife (on board the dust cart) says:

    The dodgey excerise book , does need some explantion Guido enjoyed your post on it , I didnt realise he was actualy hiding expenses .

    Good speech , genuine.

    wont comment , still rather amazed , you fathomed it .Not much I can add .

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  40. 93
    ToryHome says:

    I tink yr interpretation is what is bizarre!

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  41. 97
    Blunderbuss Osborne says:

    Right, I just shot my foot off. Better put the safety catch on now.
    It fucking hurts so bad man!
    Better take some cocaine, purely for medicinal purposes of course, just to take the edge off you understand.

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    • 119
      Number 7 says:

      Naff off back to the Downing Street Press Office.

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      • 124
        Blunderbuss Osborne (Millionaire and don't you forget it peasant) says:

        If I blow my other foot off during this campaign I will have to crawl there.

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        • 325
          Number 7 says:

          ………..To the Downing St Press Office.

          Try Comment are Free!!!!!

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          • Number 7 says:

            Comments – I’ve got a lazy keyboard.

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          • Gideon the Gonk says:

            That’s Ok. George has got a lazy brain.

            Like

          • Conservative Press Officer says:

            Come in number 7 your time is up.
            You are making it sound as if it is improbable that George will ever get to occupy Downing Street and we are trying to make such a scenario appear more likely, not less, so shudddup.
            However we are trying to keep George as far away from the press office as possible.
            He is a total liability.

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  42. 103
    Max says:

    But meanwhile when it really is about life and death as opposed to the pretend colour of taxes…has McDoom fooked something else up? See Yacht Hostages Rescue Bungle; especially this bit: “The official said it was a combination of (technical problems) and delays in decision taking in Whitehall.” The latter usually means McDoom wanted to be front of stage in the resultant photocall and press razzamataz so was pondering how best to arrange it when, oops the moment’s gone. Watch this space. Or that one.

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    • 114
      nell says:

      What could be more frightening than to know that your safety rested on gordon making a decision. And that’s no doubt what happened to the SBS team who did not arrive. gordon dithering in no.10.

      gordon must be absolutely worried sick that something is going to happen to the chandler’s this side of the election knowing he’ll get the blame yet being paralysed with indecision at the same time . If he puts an SBS team and they get hurt and if he doesn’t put an SBS team in and they get killed. Rock and a hard place gordon!! This is no place for a man who can’t be a man and take decisions is it?

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      • 126
        nell. Lust for glory says:

        “And that’s no doubt what happened to the SBS team who did not arrive. gordon dithering in no.10.”

        Luckily our resident military expert lets us know the real facts.

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        • 145
          Ted Bundy says:

          If the Royal Navy hadn’t been such timid cowards aboard the RFA Wave Knight the SBS would not be required. They even tried to cover up their incompetent cowardice by denying they had been on scene until a member of the crew with a conscience leaked it to the press.

          Maybe they thought the Pirates would take away their ipods. If we must have defence cuts please Gordon swing the axe at our cowardly Royal Navy disgraceful Muppets that they are. The Army is showing incredible bravery and resilience in comparison to the wimps in the so called Senior Service. Get those two aircraft carriers cancelled ASAP we don’t have any brave sailors to operate them and thus they are a waste of money.

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          • Ray Snotty says:

            Frank Gardener has just stated on BBC News that in fact the Chandler’s asked the Navy not to fire as they thought the pirates would kill them immediately. So someone’s telling porkies.

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          • Blame Brown not the Navy says:

            I think in this instance that you are doing a dis-service to the Royal Navy and Royal Marines Assault/Boarding Team who were aboard the RFA Wave Knight at the time of the actual piracy.According to reports I read in the press at the time an armed team had actually been assembled and put on alert;all,kitted out and armed and were within minutes of getting the “go” but this was witheld by MoD in London to the dismay of the guys in the team.So whoever was to blame I don’t think it was either the Royal Navy or the Royal Marines.It’s the fact that the RoE were/are not robust enough and authorisation for action wasn’t forthcoming from London

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          • Pissed old hack says:

            “According to reports I read in the press at the time”

            That probably invalidates any further comments. Sorry.

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          • Number 7 says:

            RoE???

            Undr Zanuliebore the entire crew would have been done for assault. They were lucky to get away with the “carrying” charge. We can’t have our troops shooting marxists can we??????????

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        • 147
          nell says:

          Let’s be brutally honest – the British men that were taken hostage in Baghdad and then killed were , according to their families, failed by mcdoom and his inability to take decisions or to take take control. Now we have the Chandler’s suffering from the same whitehall paralysis.

          The problem is, there is no decisive head of government driving solutions and resolutions to these heart-breaking international problems.!! And that lack of authority at the top is understood even by terrorists and abductors – that’s what makes the situation of people like the Chandler’s so precarious.

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          • Ted Bundy says:

            That and the fact that Commanders on scene who are too frightened and timid to take rapid decisive action. Make no mistake the RFA Wave Knight could have rescued those two unfortunate people but completely bottled it. Hence they tried to pretend they were never there.

            In contrast the Army is now acquitting itself very well in Afghanistan following its humiliating defeat and withdrawal in Basra which is another appalling shame inflicted by Labour.

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          • nell says:

            It’s true Ted Bundy, but don’t blame the Navy. When you’ve got this seriously inept indecisive ‘man’ at the helm of government and you don’t know wich way he will go – if you are a Navy Commander what the hell should you do ?

            gordon clearly is going to bottle it if something goes wrong and your neck is going to be for the chop because he will go and hide.

            That is the problem for our Armed Forces now – This weak leadership is deadly for our country and we desperately need to get rid of this liability called gordon!!!!

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          • Ted Bundy says:

            Nell the top ranks in the Navy now have the same pernicious culture of political correctness as ACPO hence we now have what is jokingly referred to as a Senior Service that’s not worth a bean. Remember the wonderful iPod crybaby Arthur Batchelor Iran Hostage farce. Nelson must be spinning in his grave and we have a once proud
            Navy that is the laughing stock of the world.

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      • 241
        anon,anon,anon.... says:

        Thatcher, remember her and rejoice

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    • 141
      The Great Khazi of Afghanistan says:

      This is a very strange story because its 90% similar to the story as to why the Marines on the RFA vessel were not sent in. Is this a rehash of the original cock up story published a month ago or has our glorious leader fouled up yet again?

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      • 157
        Max says:

        Different bungle, same bungler mind-set AKA 13 years of spinning Liebore namby pamby health & safety led Political Correctness gone mad and under-funding.

        And ineptitude. Couldn’t make my mind up whether to add that one.

        And indecision.

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        • 176
          The Great Khazi of Afghanistan says:

          But why would we be allowed to know at this critical time in proceedings aboy such a monumental cock up. The SBS wouldn’t leak and Gordon is not going to broadcast that he’s a moron. Something very odd is going on.

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        • 179
          Ted Bundy says:

          I think if we want to rescue the Chandler’s we’d be better off landing a party of Estate Agents or Haringay Social workers to do the job.

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          • Thizzy Concrete says:

            Hey dont dis da pirates. Some of my homeboys are piratey and I dont want no Estate Agent interferring with their portfolios!

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          • nell says:

            You have to bear in mind Ted that our Navy lads are controlled by aintbustingut and gordoom.

            The Navy, SBS etc can’t get on with its job unless it is given the authorisation to go ahead.

            ainbustinagut and gordoom are locked in perpetual mental paralysis – they are completely incapable of taking a decision. They’d struggle to sign a stationery requisite for paperclips!!!!

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          • Number 7 says:

            God help us if a real war comes along.

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          • Taleban Spokesperson (We wiil kick those Alqaeda nutters as soon as the Brits and Yanks fuck off) says:

            Cor blimey Guv’nor these British politicians don’t even realise they are at war.
            Which gives us a tactical advantage.
            And would explain why they haven’t supplied their boys with enough kit.
            I feel bloody sorry for their poor soldiers.
            They are brave men but their politicians of are lying cowards.

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  43. 105
    Osbeen says:

    Osbo is in hiding at the mo as every time the prat pops up he helps lose the Tories a couple ofpoints in the polls

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  44. 106
    Duncan says:

    Dave can go a fuck Gideon with Mandelson as stunt advisor

    I am not voting for Blue Labour

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    • 142
      Holly says:

      You can always tell the quality of a man by the quality of his writing.
      Nice job Duncan..Good boy.

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    • 143
      Chameleon Dave says:

      We’ll be any colour you like, except brown.

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    • 466
      Flat Earther says:

      What really pisses me off is cnuts like you comparing the Tories to Labour clones.
      We have had 13 years of socialist shit poured all over us and are being left with a mammoth 1 trillion pound debt courtesy of the insane prick in Downing street.
      Now that the experiment has failed its all the tories fault and they will do the same – what a fucking pathetic argument.

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  45. 107
    Vote Blue go Green says:

    A bit of social engineering is good for us despite what Ken Clarke says.

    Just think of all those Tories living in sin who will rush off and get married just to get the tax benefits.

    You’ve got to admit it it’s a political masterstroke.

    Self financing too by soaking the dirty motorist.

    We can all sit back now with a satisfied smug feeling.

    Thankyou Dave and George for your plan to make the country a better place in which to live.

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  46. 108
    nell says:

    Well Osborne might not be entirely clear yet on his tax and spend plans but we can be absolutely certain that he won’t be following edballs and gordon’s spend spend spend frenzy.

    edballs has just launched BeGrand.net at an initial cost of £2.2million.

    The purpose? To tell grandparents how to change a nappy, how to get teenagers to eat greens etc. It even pontificates with advice on how to choose a grandparenty name for your grandchildren to address you , as in babushka or abuela and on and on.

    The Taxpayers Alliance calls the site patronishing and absurd – Guido’s word Bizarre seems to fit rather well.

    I call it a criminal waste of our money!!!

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    • 116
      Vote Blue go Green says:

      Marriage is important though Nell.

      It’s an absolute priority.

      Jonny Motorist can afford to cough up a bit more.

      Green tax = Blue Tory.

      Makes you proud doesn’t it?

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      • 121
        Number 7 says:

        What time do the trolls get paid to??

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      • 122
        • 135
          nell says:

          For once I agree with the grumpy old man that he has become. Churchill said , Tebbitt says ‘ We should wish the EU well so long as it does not seek to cross the Channell’

          Wonder if he has read Dr Lee Rotherham’s little book entitled ‘Ten Years On. Britain without the European Union’ ? More importantly I hope dave and osborne are reading it!!

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      • 123
        nell says:

        Well someone needs to get to grips with more and more single mums having more and more babies for ever greater benefits payments – it’s true !

        We need to turn the tide from this foul government’s emphasis on the production of unwanted children for parent’s financial gain to the emphasis on family and it’s nurturing qualities.

        And frankly if the best edballs can do is chuck £millions at a website to tell grandma how to suck eggs then it’s time for change!!!!

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  47. 109
    Old Nick Heavenly(real dimwit) says:

    **************************SCOOP******************************

    *************Breaking News, well it’s news to me******************

    Slappy Zappy has just become the President of Europe!

    The Spanish have taken the rotating the 6 month rotating Presidency of Europe.

    The president of the Council of Europe, Super Belge congratulated him today!

    Barroso is president of what?

    I thought that Rompuy was there to stop the farce of the rotating presidency!

    We now have 2, two, twice as many as one, Presidents of Europe?????????

    Can one of you EU constitutional experts explain.

    And no, I have found nothing in the DTP;

    Just saw it on Euronews!

    So who the fluk does Omaha call when he wants to talk to Europe!

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    • 160
      Ted Bundy says:

      I would say call Angela Merkel the other 3 Presidents are just tailors dummies.

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      • 183
        Old Nick Heavenly(real dimwit) says:

        Well clearly I was alone in thinking that the rotating presidency was too end.

        We now have at least 2 Euro Presidents!

        I hand in my resignation as Belgian corespondent with immediate effect!

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  48. 113
    Rick Nobbinson Esq......... says:

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, and you’d be right not to believe it. Shall we move on?

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  49. 132
    Holly says:

    Osborne is right.
    CLAIMS that the Tories would increase ROAD TAX….?
    Tories,”wide range of OPTIONS from increased PETROL DUTY to levies on flights and firms that polute is understood to be under CONSIDERATION.
    Shadow cabinet minister said,”damaging activities and consumption will fund our family policies IN THE LONG TERM.
    So the Tories DO NOT plan to hike road tax or fuel tax or flights levies the day after the election.
    They will reward the people who make the less polluting choices and TAX the polluting businesses,encouraging them to invest properly in their companies,
    and TAX flights that are not full.
    I don’t know claims,claims,claims.
    The blogs, like the MSM have become like claims direct since Wednesday.
    Most against the Tories.
    Must be the public response to Browns disgusting crass answers and behaviour at PMQ’s. The MSM thinking Brown ‘won’.If mentioned at all.
    The public on the other hand, wishing Brown would just piss off!
    Cameron could always take the Labour option on taxes.
    Tax everything and everyone and give it to the filthy rich. Let the filthy rich lose all that money.Borrow and print some money to give to the filthy rich and MAKE the public pay the money back to the filthy rich from ??????TAXES!
    Brilliant idea.

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  50. 137
    George and Dave hang their heads in shame. says:

    Osborne is a Liar

    Cameron is a Liar.

    Usually this comes out after the election.

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  51. 139
    Trev says:

    I seem to recall the conservatives saying ages ago that their policy was to levy green taxes but cut other taxes, unlike labour who levy higher green taxes and higher other taxes as well. Nothing new.
    This snippet says they want to help ‘families’. Nothing like the original allegation.

    The only person misleading anyone is Mr Guido Fawkes with his previous headline and this is just desperately trying to get out of it.

    The charge was increasing taxes on cars to pay for married couples allowances. Not proven.
    All this exposes is that the Conservatives are anxious to support ‘families’. Good.

    Nothing about married couples allowance.

    So Mr Fawkes when push comes to shove is no different to the dead tree press he so decries.
    He is just twisting truth to save face.

    Poor … very poor.

    Still at least unlike the Telegraph he is not giving free air-time to Martin Salter and his bigoted partisan propaganda.

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  52. 144
    Tony Cameron says:

    two fuckups today then
    since Dave Blair also trailed he was going to use the horrific child torture trial to hammer Brown but then chickened out as he realised it looked bad enough already to be jumping on top of such an appalling but clearly exceptional case for crass electioneering

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    • 166
      nell says:

      Two mistakes today?!!!

      gordon wanted to follow obama’s lead on banks and said something stupid about supporting omaha’s banking approach only to realise that he has already committed himself to the opposite view and then:-

      he finds himself mired in this anti-terrorism row where his government is cutting millions from the anti-terrorism budget just as he is telling parliament that he is going to introduce even more anti-terrorism measures.

      Poor gordon!! He can’t even think in a straight line!!

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    • 227
      Just saying says:

      What complete bollox

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  54. 149
    A Doctor says:

    Thirteen years of rebuilding public services just for the Tories to run them down again. That’s progress for you. Don’t get ill unless you have private health insurance because the cash starved NHS days of the nineties will return with waiting times of years for treatment. Remember them?

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    • 155
      Mr Plum says:

      They may have been rebuilt but on billions of pounds worth of debt.

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    • 158
      nell says:

      Really??!! I have a child who has been disabled in the last eight years by the incompetent uncaring NHS . Since then we have been using our pension fund to buy private medical help to try and get her back as much of her life as we can.

      What was that NHS/Education paper that Labour brought forward spouting loads of rubbish?? Oh Yes!!! “Every Child Matters”. Truth is, under this labour government , the only children that matter to the state are the one’s that belong to MP’s and ministers.

      The rest of us have to scrabble for help, where we can and only if we can afford it and sometimes if we can’t!!!

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      • 164
        tat says:

        No. 145 you must have a Doctorate in stupidity if you really believe that bilge you have just written. Then again you could simply be a minimum wage Labour Rebuttal unit troll.

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      • 233
        anon,anon,anon.... says:

        Nell, you’re not alone. NHS critical care excellent but downhill from there

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        • 273
          nell says:

          Yes Exactly! Hubby had a heart atack – care excellent.

          Grand-daughter had long term health care needs – care really bad!!

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        • 290
          Anonymous says:

          Its a shame they didn’t use some of those billions teaching their staff how to wash their hands so that when people went to hospital for a minor op they didn’t get infected by c diff and end up in a wooden box, oh I forgot “WE WILL LEARN FROM OUR MISTAKES…………ETC ETC ETC ” same old excuses, Doncaster council are more concerned that someone exposed them to the BBC rather than those poor lads subjected to that horrific ordeal by Nu Lab legacy- clueless incompetent amateurs!

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    • 161
      Max says:

      Bit like now? I am yet again on a waiting list to get onto a waiting list. Maybe you doctors just don’t know about it…

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    • 203
      Engineer says:

      I understand that GP’s salaries have approximately doubled in the last decade.

      A decade ago, I could ring my GP’s surgery and book an appointment within a couple of days. They provided cover durng evenings and weekends. Now, I am lucky to get an appointment the following week, and out-of-hours cover is not available from my GP practice, but only through locums.

      The NHS may be be better for those working in it; for those of us using it’s ‘services’ it is no better, and in many respects much worse.

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      • 297
        Anonymous says:

        If they own a practise in a new PTC health centre the earning potential is 100k! plus bonuses, don’t let them tell you otherwise, its why the hospital have a shortage of home grown doc’s the pay difference is on average £60k shortfall. The same thing is happening with dentists but not witch doctors their just crap unless you’re possessed

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    • 212
      British Militia says:

      Borrowing billions to fund our healthcare and lumping our grandchildren with the debt is nothing to be proud of. Neither is pointing a gun to your neighbour’s head and forcing him to pay for another person’s healthcare, under pain of incarceration. Socialism is not charity, it is force and coercion.

      Granting the government a near monopoly on healthcare is one of the worst aspects of statism in this country, not an achievement that should be lauded.

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    • 230
      anon,anon,anon.... says:

      A Doctor my eye. More likely a spin doctor.
      What page of MIMS is Crestor on in the latest edition?

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  55. 167
    GORDON McBUST(and his amazing magic cheque book) says:

    BREAKING NEWS Government has just raised the terror threat level to severe !

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    • 181
      Anonymous says:

      Blair, Brown, Campbell must be so proud of what they have achieved. They have cursed a generation.

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    • 182
      nell says:

      http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/UK-Terror-Threat-Level-Raised-To-Severe-From-Substantial/Article/201001415533869?lpos=UK_News_Carousel_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15533869_UK_Terror_Threat_Level_Raised_To_Severe_From_Substantial

      It’s very worrying to think we are facing a severe terror threat level and we have people like mcdoom, postman pat, militwit and the straw man in charge!!!!

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      • 214
        Liberal Uprising says:

        As the late Arthur Harris said you can’t go bombing your way around the world in the naive expectation that someone someday wont bomb you back. What you reap you sow. If you don’t poke your nose in other peoples countries they probably wont poke their noses in yours. We bomb them they bomb us back nothing terribly complicated about that.

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    • 193
      Engineer says:

      BBC News, Radio 4, 9 pm, “There is no specific intelligence of an immediate attack”.

      So why has the threat level been raised?

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      • 199
        GORDON McBUST(and his amazing magic cheque book) says:

        So when the attack on which they have no intelligence happens
        Lie-bore can claim it was “the right thing to do ” to warn people
        and claim it was just a lucky guess !

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      • 201

        Because it stopped snowing?

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      • 204
        Mr Ned says:

        We are heading into an election in which civil liberties may be a theme. It may have some bearing on that.

        I am looking at other international news seeing what this could be a pre-cursor to distract us from.

        Report: Hezbollah on high alert for fear of Israeli attack

        London-based al-Sharq al-Awsat newspaper says Shiite organization has instructed its men to take ‘general precautions’, Syria recruiting reserve soldiers residing in Lebanon

        http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3838086,00.html

        Could our intelligence services be readying us for possible repercussions from another Israeli attack on Lebanon?

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      • 206
        Mr Ned says:

        Or could it have anything to do with Blair and Brown having to give evidence to the Iraq inquiry over the coming weeks?

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      • 207
        Old Nick Heavenly(real dimwit) says:

        Ready for the non erection!

        It’s all those pills he takes!

        Anyway, at least we have 2 presidents of Europe!

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      • 220
        Sting's Beard says:

        Brown is about to have an original thought. Raise the threat level, Man the mizen raise the drawbridge, steady the Buffs they shall not pass!

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        • 242
          GORDON McBUST(and his amazing magic cheque book) says:

          you can see whats comming ! the level rises to imminent
          then a government anouncement
          due to the worsening security situation
          we advise all citizens to remain in doors and only go out if really nessasary
          as the situation is so dangerous
          we unfortunately will have to pospone the general election
          that we the government were so looking forward to !

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          • Sting's Beard says:

            You could be on to something here. But give him enough rope.

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          • Number 7 says:

            Declare CRITICAL. Declare a State of Emergency. Suspend the Parliament Act.

            BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!! No General Election

            I have it on good report that V for Vendetta Masks have hit a market high.

            ( I hope that McBruin is not relying on the Armed Services )

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    • 224
      oldfella says:

      it makes me heartily sick of this fucking government and all of the political elites, because they all go along with this. the terror is in the notion that they can manipulate situations and the media into trying very deliberately to control the people by fear. are we all supposed to stay in now or what? these fucking bastards can hold us all to ransom and they know it. we are all terrorists. i want my country back

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      • 265
        Filling in some of the gaps says:

        well worth watching if you missed it (before 9/11), very timely

        http://www.archive.org/details/ThePowerOfNightmaresDVD

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        • 278
          Mr Ned says:

          The power of nightmares is a superb three-part documentary funded by the BBC. One of the very few decent and accurate documentaries that they have shown in recent years.

          Basically blows all of the media/elite lies about Al Qaeda out of the water. Especially the bit that showed Bin-Laden walking up that hill surrounded by his fighters, and then lets it be known that they were paid to show up for that day only. They were NOT his fighters.

          Al Qaeda is the best terrorist organisation American CIA dollars could buy.

          There was no threat so it had to be invented.

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          • Filling in some of the gaps says:

            Interestingly BBC cancelled release of film as DVD after 9/11, bit too close for comfort?

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    • 232
      Tathos says:

      What’s the difference between ‘highly likely’ and ‘severe’? I still haven’t seen a bobby on the beat.

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      • 244
        nell says:

        You should live in the countryside – I don’t think I’ve seen a policeman here where I live for years!!!

        And in places like Thetford Forest where you have criminals who illegally hunt deer with guns the police are very scarce indeed!!!

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        • 380
          Number 7 says:

          Definitely an endangered species in this neck of the woods – unless you are perfectly legally “walking up” with a springer (spaniel) and a 12 bore (on land that you MUST have permission to shoot).

          In that case you can expect a visit from various “bizzies” in helicopters and 4 wheel drives and then be threatened with live firearms.

          They do not seem to understand the law in this country!!!!!!!!

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          • Anonymous says:

            Bit late but we have wild deer all over the place here in the midlands in very big numbers and many are getting bolder. Last year my sister had one eating her plants in her front garden and she lives Solihull, next door to Birmingham.

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  56. 175
    I see a solution says:

    McDOnald are looking to employ 5000 people. Can someone urgently send an application form to every labour mp – it is the right thing to do mcmental in mcdonald even the most staunch veggie would pp in x

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    • 194
      GORDON McBUST(and his amazing magic cheque book) says:

      ICY ASHOLE LOTION
      As from monday all asian/arab’s Must not go out in public unless only wearing “Y”fronts
      any one not conforming will be seen as a terorist
      and can be legally killed
      I Thank You !

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  57. 187
    George and Dave hang their heads in shame. says:

    There is a problem here. However bad Osborne is Dave can NOT sack him.

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    • 196
      GORDON McBUST(and his amazing magic cheque book) says:

      A bit like McBust and Darling ?

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    • 213
      nell says:

      Bit like harpy harriet isn’t it? gordon can’t sack her either, despite the fact that she isn’t doing very much for labour’s image as the ‘servant’ of the underdogs.

      Here she is, niece of the 7th Earl of Longford, daughter of a Harley Street specialist, privately educated at the elitist St Paul’s Girl’s School talking about equality!! Ho Hum!!

      And as MP for the Peckham Constituency she wears a Kevlar vest when canvassing her constituents and never ventures out without a police guard!!!

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  58. 210

    I cannot believe people are actually here defending any more taxes. Keeerist people, we are taxed to buggery – have you not grasped this? When Lloyd George was plotting his super tax on the rich he balked at taxes a feckin *fifth* that the average man is paying today!

    Quibbling between a car tax and a green tax is like deciding between having your right or left bollock hacked off – I am not havingit!

    Cameron, sort your fucking self out, you twat or you will LOSE.

    LOSE

    Geddit? It is not a done deal. We WILL vote UKIP to shove your face in the shit if you do not DO AS YOU ARE BEING TOLD

    Cut taxes, cut spending, do it, ponce!

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    • 219
      Sting's Beard says:

      I like the cut of your gib

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      • 299
        Mr Ned says:

        Me too.

        However I have already decided to vote UKIP. The tories have had the last 4.7 years to convince me, and they have completely failed to provide an alternative to labour.

        I hate, loath, despise, detest, labour with an intensity and passion that takes my breath away.

        Why the FUCK should I vote for a party that is copying them???

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        • 403
          Voter from Hull (the hell hole says:

          For an otherwise informed ,intelligent contributor Mr Ned your determination to vot for UKIP is a mystery wrapped in an enigma ,as somerone once said concerning an equally important matter .

          I never expected to see you dealing in fairy tales .But ,in life it is essential to respect peioples illusions .

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    • 243
      Dry Martini says:

      We could start with a “little list” of QILFs (Quangos I’d Like to Fuck). How about…

      Arts Council
      British Potato Council
      Carbon Trust
      Dairy Produce Quota Tribunal
      Equalities and Human Rights Commission

      etc. etc.

      Full details at:

      UK Quangos

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      • 411
        Summer_Breeze says:

        Put ‘One-North East’ right to the very top please. Another bunch of overpaid, useless articles!

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    • 245
      He's not the Messiah (he's a very naughty boy) says:

      You’re speaking to the average brainwashesd Tory here dude.

      They think Cameron is the new Messiah.

      In six months time they’ll be whining like pussies!

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      • 272
        Liberal Uprising says:

        The Tories must sit down and plan the orderly handover of the leadership to David Davies, Cameron isn’t up to the job and has little public appeal outside the advertising industry, geeky nerds and fags.

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        • 308
          Mr Ned says:

          Davis??? You CANNOT be serious?

          Did you look at who was funding his election campaign? You remember the civil liberties campaign?

          He had American backers who happen to be investors in some of the largest surveillance technology companies in the world!!!

          So people who are financially benefiting from the increases in the surveillance state were funding the “champion of civil liberties”.

          I asked him about this on his website. The same website that he claimed (on election day) would be the START of his campaign. The day he won that phoney election battle and regained his seat, he said that the campaign was just starting. That was also the LAST day he updated his campaign website.

          He never answered the questions I had for him, or the questions that several other people followed me in asking.

          He won the seat, got his publicity and then quit the campaign.

          David Davis is a total fraud!

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    • 283
      dodgy dave says:

      Dave has no balls to hack off. Limp dick, no policy, politically correct sort of guy.
      I think Dave has a conscience and doesn’t want to be PM (who can blame him, with the evil agenda entailed).
      So, off to UKIP we go!…

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  59. 216
    Fees Office Clerk says:

    I personally don’t give a toss who Osborne misleads. I just want Brown, Balls, Mandelson and the rest of those Socialist c’unts off my fucking back.

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    • 225
      nell says:

      gordon today apparently spent his time phoning simoncowell to suggest that he made a record for Haiti.

      As a consequence gordon didn’t have time to address the issue of slashed funding for anti-terrorism budgets just as postman pat was raising the threat level or to address omaha’s proposed reforms for banking which slashed millions off the footsie today.

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    • 229
      Engineer says:

      Me too, F.O.C.

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      • 253
        The Good Old Days says:

        Can’t wait to get back to negative equity, 15% interest rates, ERM financial disasters and cash for questions.
        Same government. Different rosette.

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        • 257
          Engineer says:

          So better to carry on borrowing £178 billion a year and hang the consequences of the accumulated debt, then?

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          • Go,go,go with Gordon says:

            Just a temporary blip. Boom is the next junction after bust.

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          • Engineer says:

            We’ll bloody need a boom to pay the interest on the accumulated debt. Never mind pay off the debt itself.

            Let’s see – current National Debt about £890 billion. Projected deficits over the next few years about £176 billion, £100 billion, £76 billion, £40 billion. So that’s about £1.3 trillion. plus off-balance-sheet PFI and Network Rail debts. Say £1.7 trillion. At 3.85% (and that will probably rise as the markets downrate our Sovereign Debt) that’s about £65 billion a year just to pay the interest. Current tax take is about £440 billion a year.

            Oh, shit. What a mess. Thanks, Gordon.

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          • Engineer says:

            By the way, National Debt in 1997 was £340 billion. Oh to be back there, now.

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          • Go,go,go with Gordon says:

            Don’t be a gloomy guts! It’s negative thinking that slows the nations march into a successful European future. You wouldn’t want the Conservatives to jeopardise our position in the new world order would you?
            I’m backing Britain. Why aren’t you?

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  60. 226
    matt b says:

    Is green taxation exclusively taxation taken from motorists?

    No, thought not.

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    • 236
      nell says:

      I think for me the conservatives strengths are more in the way they will save money than in the way they will tax.

      Quangos abolished. Regional Government abolished. Local Government – cut down to size ( You don’t need 4000 employees to operate a local planning authority and collect dustbins) . The vast non-managers culture in the NHS reduced and Dr’s and Nurses given a greater voice. The BBC hanging by a thread!!!

      But of course they don’t want to say too much about that at the moment! I can wait!!!!

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      • 246
        Hamish Macbeth says:

        “But of course they don’t want to say too much about that at the moment! I can wait!!!!””

        They also dont want to say too much until they see the accounts and work out how much in the shit we are.
        I can’t wait for some cutbacks too….all public services are over bureaucratised and ripe for some pruning.
        I might be able to go out and do my job then – rather than gathering fuckin statistics for this corrupt Government !!

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      • 251
        Thatcher's 'snatch says:

        Not to mention massive unemployment.

        Still the Tories have always believed in a disposable workforce.

        Still needs paying for though.

        Thought all you “Tories” were going to get people back into work?

        I bet all the figures have been fixed haven’t they?

        Course they have.

        Just going to open another tinny, paid for by the state of course!

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        • 254
          Engineer says:

          So taxing a struggling productive part of the economy into the ground to pay for a bloated public sector is a good policy is it? Our recent experiences would suggest that there may be some teensy-weensy flaws in that approach…..

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        • 255
          Hamish Macbeth says:

          “Not to mention massive unemployment.”Very very very unfortunate.

          But when you are overdrawn by £1.7 Trillion one or two things have to give.

          Labour have been the ones to create the unemployment – they just leave the shit job of sacking people to someone else.

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        • 385
          Number 7 says:

          Three Liebore governments in 60 years. Three MEGA BUSTS. Three times the tories have had to sort out the mess.

          Nuff Said

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          • You vote 'em in,we'll knock 'em down says:

            Three Tory governments in 60 years. Three MEGA FAILURES. Suez, The Common Market and Thatchers bust and boom and bust.

            Sound familiar?

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          • Number 7 says:

            And a heallthy economy for McBruin to bust (turn us from the World’s fourth largest economy to the – what is it? – Oh Yes 11th!!!!!!!!)

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          • Stuck in the middle with clowns to the left of me,jokers to the right. says:

            What are you? An Isreali or a Palestinian?

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  61. 240
    Muppet v Muppet says:

    The theory that Cameron has been easy on Brown in order to keep him in office on the basis that he’s the Conservatives best electoral asset works both ways.
    Cameron and Osborne are proving to be Labours best hope for a fourth term.

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    • 249
      Engineer says:

      Brown and Darling or Cameron and Osborne?

      After the experiences of the last 13 years, the choice is obvious, and opinion polls suggest that enough of the electorate think so as well.

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      • 252
        Twatatory says:

        Obvious???

        You blinkered cretin.

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        • 259
          Engineer says:

          A pretty consistent 40% of the electorate seem to think so, judging by opinion polls over the last few months.

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          • He's not the Messiah (he's a very naughty boy) says:

            Which means 60% don’t!

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          • Engineer says:

            40% is reckoned good enough for a working majority. If there’s any justice, the Labour vote will be low enough to see their numbers substantially reduced – and they know it. That’s why Labour MPs are begging for peerages in droves.

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          • The Love Doctor says:

            Labours vote is holding firm in the upper twenties. A few more Conservative gaffes and it’s twitchy bum time at CCO. If Labour can avoid dropping a bollock for the next couple of months, we could well finish up with everybody round to Cleggy’s for romantic candlelit dinner and breakfast.

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          • Anonymous says:

            If Labour can avoid dropping a bollock for the next couple of months,

            MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!!! MWWWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH !!!!!!!

            Not a fucking hope pal.

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          • Mr Ned says:

            Nope, the tories are NOT getting 40% support of the entire electorate.

            They only get 40% of those who admit to being certain to vote. SO in reality the Conservatives have 40% out of 50% of the total electorate. In other words, 20% of the electorate.

            The REAL level of support for the political parties is as follows:

            Conservatives 20%
            Labour 15%
            Liberals 9%

            None of the above 50%

            More than the three parties above COMBINED!!!

            Now, what IF this 50% realise suddenly, that they are the biggest power block in UK politics and they decide to vote?

            They could wipe out ALL the main parties EASILY.

            Now it is up to UKIP to persuade people that cannot stand the tories and labour and liberals, to take a tiny bit of action, because it would well be worth it to see them ALL kicked out of power!

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          • Back to the past. Part IV says:

            Careful Mr Ned. The poor old Tories here have waited so long and suffered so many disappointments and false dawns. We’ve had Hague, Howard, IDS and now Dave “Man of cast iron” Cameron. Another broken heart may be terminal for the blazer and blue rinse brigade.
            Oh, by the way, must add the obligatory cry of,

            LABOUR TROLL!

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          • Anonymous says:

            Ned should stop flavouring his cornflakes with crack cocaine FFS.

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      • 258
        nell says:

        Indeed they do Eng.!

        Imagine another five years of gordon’s economic disasters and indecisive, incompetent, inept management of government?? What a laughing stock he has made of us around the world.

        Roll on May/June – can’t wait to be rid of him!!!

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        • 264
          He's not the Messiah (he's a very naughty boy) says:

          The laugh is on you I’m afraid. Thinking that the Tories have any answers!

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          • Engineer says:

            Out of interest, what are the Labour answers? I haven’t heard any, yet.

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          • Egalitarian Society for all says:

            Squeeze the rich until the pips squeak.
            Which brings us nicely on to Dave……

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          • He's not the Messiah (he's a very naughty boy) says:

            I get it now!!!

            Labour bad = Tories good!

            I won’t argue with the first bit, indeed I might share your view. However why do you think Camoron et al will be any better?

            He is after all a Blair clone.

            He is a “kneejerk” politician with no true ideology.

            He will be run ragged by big business and the media.

            Camoron is a people pleaser, and we all know you can’t please all of them.

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          • nell says:

            I’d like to say the laugh is on gordon – but unfortunately there is NOTHING about inept, incompetent gordon that one could laugh about!!!!

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          • Engineer says:

            Got any better options?

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          • Engineer says:

            That question for He’s the Messiah, not you, nell.

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          • Mr Ned says:

            Yeah, My suggestion is vote for a party that wants to solve this countries problems instead of add to them.

            Pursuade everyone you know, who (like the majority of the country), hates both parties, to go and vote against the duopoly dictatorship.

            There are more of us than there are tory and labour supporters combined.

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          • The Admiral says:

            Given that at the last hung pariament Lab won the most seats but Cons had most votes, 40% at the moment seems OK to me…

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          • Number 7 says:

            I wondered what happened to Fabian Solutions after he decided that life was too difficult on the DT bloggs. Hello The Naughty Boy.

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        • 275
          Ratsniffer says:

          You mean the man who sold our gold at rock bottom prices? Ruined the best pension industry in the world? Nooo gordon can always be relied on to do the right thing for he country….

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          • Never trust a hippy says:

            That “gold” was all tungsten. Brown’s offloaded it to Charlie Chan but has to keep up the pretence of incompetance in order to stop them smelling a rat.

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          • albacore says:

            With Gordon’s record, what are the odds that he gave the Chinese the real McCoy and left the chocolate-covered tungsten in the vaults of the Old Lady of Threadneedle Street?

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          • Labour's Cabal of Inept Lost Plotters says:

            Brown’has to keep up the pretence of incompetance’ (sic) ROTFLMAO !!

            That’s not an act, Gordon Brown is completely out of his depth and is utterly incompetent.

            Ask him what he plans to do about the Nation’s Gold Bullion reserves he practically gave away. He’s a total pillock.

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          • Never trust a hippy says:

            If the old trouper can convince you, those inscrutable orientals will never cotton on to fact that they have been well mugged.

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    • 389
      Voter from Hull (the hell hole says:

      There is mor chance of suitcliffe being granted early release than there is of the bastards in new labour being civen a further opportunity to wreck what is left of this once great country . L abour has been an unmitigated disaster ever since the left wing lunatics were allowed to live instead of being gunned down in the street like the gangsters that they are and always wiill be .

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      • 402
        A voter who once spent a night in Hull in the early 90's says:

        It’s a good spot for a nuclear waste depository. Just tell Prescott it’s all you can eat for a fiver.

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  62. 266
    anon,anon,anon.... says:

    As my name says

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6999051.ece

    The Met Office is excellent at predicting what the weather was yesterday

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    • 284
      nell says:

      Indeed I love their five day forecasts !!!! – They put them up on the website and then keep changing them 12 hours before the weather arrives.

      Of course this says something, doesn’t it , about this corrupt establishment’s attempt to pretend it can forecast long term man-made global warming

      They are every bit like gordon and his man-made global warming model – Not Reliable!!!

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      • 388
        Number 7 says:

        I can give you a good example Nell.

        I “play” with boats, as in offshore work. Needless to say I stopped relying on the Met some years ago.

        The recent weather was forecast some 10 days before it arrived – but not by the Met.

        PS. There’s some more on its way>

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  63. 281
    Anonymous says:

    You can’t even read what you write shit for brains – he said it’s got nothing to do with the marriage tax and that amazing scoop fo yours doesn’t contradict that.

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    • 302
      nell says:

      ++++ for brains ???

      The only people THAT can apply to is gordon and his failed, incompetent cabinet .

      We must not forget militwit, postman pat, the straw man , harpy harriett, and mandy.

      We should give extra attention to mrs (claim every £K benefit possible) kinnock and the multi-switching house claimant darling.

      edball and yvette claiming £thousands in every office benefit possible on top of other mp’s generous expenses allowances should have their salaries and expenses looked at very carefully !!!!

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      • 307
        Steve Expat says:

        talking of shit for brains, Mr Balls now making a right idiot of himself on Newsnight trying desparately to justify the lack of publication of the latest child abuse report – after a high court judge has given the BBC permission to publish a leaked copy of it!

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        • 376
          Jan says:

          Pathetic Gavin Esler gave Balls an easy time…Gavin Esler is a frightened little ninny and is a lightweight. I see Newsnight Review now moved to Glasgow so that Kirsty Sqawk can sleep in her own bed. I mean it’s supposed to be a cultural show.What the f….k does Glasgow know about culture? OOOOH there’s always Susan Boyle for highbrow music and then you’ve got the Big Issue for literature. As for cuisine,there’s always the deep fried Mars bar. How much did it cost to move Newsnight Review to Glasgow and who amongst the chatteratai would want to schlep up there for an hour and then have to spend the night there?

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      • 309
        Fees office cash cow says:

        We look at them very carefully, as we do Mr and Mrs Winterton’s.

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      • 321
        albacore says:

        Nell, you remember when we had food rationing; when most people had no central heating in their homes, no car, no telephone and, if they had a TV it was a 12″, single-channel, black and white monster with enough thermionic valves inside to heat up the living room.
        The country had been bankrupted by war. In those days, even my little village manufactured everything from beer and bricks to shoes, hosiery and components for Roll-Royce aero engines. Now its factories have all closed.
        Do you really believe that the farcical tinkerings proposed by the Labour, Tory and Liberal criminals who have wrecked the country so comprehensively are going to restore it?

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      • 348
        Dick Scratcher says:

        Ok Nell, get Lord Snooty to give us a viable right wing option & we’ll vote for it. His pathetic Blue Labour puffery stands for nothing. We are in the worst recession for nearly a century & we are heading for a hung parliament. It beggars belief.

        The Tories have always relied on a sizeable working class vote for power (Alf Garnett, Loadsamoney). Dismal Dave has never understood this. Metropolitan / southern liberalism does not attract them.

        His policies are full of contradictions – civil partnerships / tax breaks for marriage ??? He is not an ideologue, he is a vacuous PR man. Stand by for years of tepid consensus and fudgery.

        Anyway, fuck the UK – it’s had it. Get out quick. I will one day. That’s why I go to work.

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  64. 311
    Anonymous says:

    I see the fuckwit in No 10 has raised the terror level to Severe.

    WTF are they trying to cover up this time?

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    • 317
      John Major's soapbox says:

      Gordon’s plan to meet and greet?

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    • 377
      grobdj says:

      Probably Irish Republicans kicking off, due to the proposed cuts in their arms beyond use allowances

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    • 468
      Flat Earther says:

      Slush fund,Somali rescue failure,800 billion debt,Labour trougher smacked on wrist,covering up doncaster tragedy by government refusal to publish un doctored report.
      The list is endless.

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  65. 315
    anon,anon,anon.... says:

    Ed parrot Balls on newsnight. God help at risk children.

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  66. 320
    Agent 99 says:

    and Darling misled pensioners

    Pensioners to miss out on half a billion in allowances

    Pensioners will miss out on half a billion pounds in state support, the Government has admitted. In his pre-Budget report last month, Alistair Darling, the Chancellor, announced that the basic state pension would be protected from cuts, and would rise by 2.5 per cent in April. It emerged later that pensions not categorised as “basic,” such state earnings-related pensions (Serps), would, however, be frozen.

    Its always in the detail with Labour

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  67. 372
    Spare joystick at the wedding says:

    Kent police to employ predator drones in the skies over the garden of England.
    That’s buggered my invite to cousin Mike’s nuptials in Maidstone.

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  68. 391

    Not bizarre, just their stratage…

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  69. 398
    Voter from Hull (the hell hole says:

    Is there any greater waste of space in the entire world compared with the libdem benches in the HOC ?

    The utter total prats that occupy that area are a disgrace to mankind and every one of them should be destroyed (humanely ,of course .) It is essential to retain some humanity even when dealing with toxic waste products euphemistically referred to as liberals

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  70. 400

    Actually, he might have been honest. He called it a road tax, didn’t refer to it as a green tax. so I could see where he might be coming from on this one.

    But as this tax would be a tax on families (most families drive, yes?) it would merely be taking money from them with one hand to give it back to them with the other. It adds cost, but it doesn’t add value.

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    • 440
      The Admiral says:

      Hole in one. That was my first thought too…

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    • 446
      streamfisher says:

      Both parties are trying to con people into thinking that there are free lunches to be had if you elect US but then end up rapidly backtracking when pinned down as to where the money will come from. The only free lunches in town are at the HOC Canteen (5 star).

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      • 475

        Streamfisher, that’s not how I see it.

        I think the Tories are hedging their bets. Waiting to see the books for real before committing themselves fully. And that’s wise of them. As Brown has God knows how many slush funds logged in old school exercise books (probably the kind with tables telling us about Rods, Chains, etc) then they are VERY wise.

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        • 482
          Zoot Al Laws says:

          Absolutely right. Gordon lies so much he has probably completely lost touch with reality. No-one knows what the true state of financial affairs are.

          It’s the same with the banks – the true picture still has not emerged and that is why credit is still not flowing.

          I think we are in for a big shock when call-me-Dave shines a light into the dark recesses of Gordon’s books.

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        • 484
          COVLAD says:

          “Hedging” their bets !

          Thats what got us into this mess in the first place.

          Next you’ll be telling us to send “Bankers” on gardening leave…

          No.

          No more “Hedging”!

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  71. 405
    George Osborne's old E boating song says:

    Turn on your mind,relax and float downstream.

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  72. 406
    caesars wife (on board the dust cart) says:

    LOL fabian solutions gets trashed again on lord tebbits blog !

    CW has upgraded his alan johson threat from vaugue to boarderline , ambiguous.

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    • 407
      Dave "Binman" Cameron says:

      My old man’s a dustman
      He wears a dustman’s hat
      He shot ten thousand Germans
      What to you think of that?
      One lay here,one lay there
      one lay round the corner
      crying out for water
      Water,water,water
      water came at last
      i don’t want your water
      you can stck it up your

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  73. 413
    The Admiral says:

    Here’s a thing. Friend of mine who is just leaving the Tax office reacons they are on the point of collapse.
    How do you sue IR for bankrupsy? I want my rebate, and I want it now…

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  74. 414
    Blue Rosette says:

    Good morning all you luvlies.

    For months now, and I mean months I have been telling you that our Conservative party was being run by hopeless, useless, shallow, impressionable, weak people.

    Now do you finally believe me?

    These vaccuous men most of whom have never had a job are not leaders of men. In fact they can lead nothing even though for years we, the taxpayer, has funded them to Oppose the current Government. They cannot even do that.

    This is a nightmare for us all. Hague and Davis need to seize control fast before it is too late.

    We are going down the shitter, everyone of us, unless the Conservatives are elected with proper Conservative Policies, not this rubbish they occassionaly spew out.

    And now it appears Osborne has been fibbing.

    UKIP is going to do very well indeed.

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    • 418
      Al says:

      Labour trolls are slightly wearing out the ‘lets pretend to be right wingers, slag off Cameron and say we’ll vote UKIP line’.

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      • 474
        Dick Scratcher says:

        Not so, a very large proportion of Tory voters / members (especially in the north) are totally pissed off by Dismal Dave’s pathetic performance & TRG leanings.

        I cannot understand why he thinks that being more left wing & liberal will bring him more votes. He has spent way too much time within the M25 with media luvvies. When his sycophants meet him, they don’t have the guts to tell him the truth.

        Never forget that just before Broon dithered on the election, CMD was in serious danger of losing his job due to his ineffectiveness.

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    • 427
      UKIP if you want to mate says:

      The last gasps of a desperate Labour troll.

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    • 434
      The Admiral says:

      Dripping tap syndrome. If enough read it, who knows?

      Having said that, in my book Our Dave is either very brave or mad. I wouldn’t want the job, EVER…

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      • 449
        Doris says:

        I can allow Osborne one lie; compared to the hundreds of lies we have been fed by Blair, Brown and their henchmen – this is nothing.

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  75. 416
    COVLAD says:

    The terror alert !

    Nothing to do with the protest over civil liberties due to take place today at 1200. Starting in Trafalgar square.

    Bring your camera, as it is a protest by photographers.

    They keep getting arrested for doing their job.

    Look on the web for : “I am a potographer not a terrorist..”

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    • 417
      COVLAD says:

      Someone… Please put up a link to their site if you can.

      I’m to stupid be be trusted with the magic words needed to do that.

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    • 437
      caesars wife (aboard the dustcart) says:

      OH must worry alan johnson smooth stasi state then !

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  76. 419
    Jumbo says:

    The fucking Toady: “Take two – you laugh HERE not HERE.” Fucking Scottish self-obsessed shit

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  77. 420
    Jumbo says:

    Misleading the Toady programme must be on a par with misleading Peppa Pig.

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  78. 421
    Jumbo says:

    Brain Redhead had his own gravitas. This lot of Hunts are at best aspiring DJs

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  79. 422
  80. 428
    Anonymous says:

    Simon Cowell hits the charts with his latest find, some mental Scottish loon with a faint grasp of reality.

    Er……….hang on. He’s done this already hasn’t he?

    Sorry, my mistake……..the other one was popular and had a modicum of talent.

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  81. 429
    Gordon Brown says:

    Geoff has rather stolen my reputation
    I am the biggest “Brown” in the world

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  82. 432
    The Beast of Clerkenwell says:

    Simon Cowell has agit some new shows

    “Scotland has got no talent” (McMental wins)

    the

    “FFS factor” (McMental wins)

    And scottish idle* (the whole “nation” gets a prize like the retard who fucks up the school egg and spoon race )
    McMental wins

    *Yes I can spell idol

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  83. 433
    The Beast of Clerkenwell says:

    seems that I cant spell got

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  84. 435
    Wacko Jocko says:

    Whose bad?

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  85. 436
    England says:

    You are Wacko gordon
    Now be a good chap and fuck off

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  86. 442
    REEVO says:

    Many I talk with don’t care about Osbourn, Cameron indeed any at Westminster.

    They as I feel they gave away all their credibility over the expenses scandal.

    MP’s have no place to tell/advise me what or how it should be, they are quite simply unreliable and therefore damaged goods..

    I notice Nannygate Spelman still in place whereas she should have been kicked out of politics long ago together with every single one who has looted the public purse no matter how minor.

    Theft is theft no excuses!

    That single issue alone is all the information I need about Tory principals.

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  87. 444
    caesars wife (aboard the dustcart) says:

    thanks for new word jan “chatterarti” sounds like foreign supercar brand but with a standard engine , mmmm the chatterati GLX , extras included , starbucks cup holder , twitter for life , traffic jam nav , handle for winding windows up and down , 1 years guy news sub , cubby box i phone holder , vinly roof , transmission oil leak , membership of chatterati club UK , up grade to large fries and super slurper .

    just had funny read of rick gervaise bafta show , (show bz crowd were aghast) when refering to paul macartney said he shared a flight with paul but didnt see him in first class as he had spent alot of money this year and was making savings by flying second ! Dont think they are going book him again .

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    • 472
      The Admiral says:

      errrrr the word is “gearbox” over here.

      You are Barry Ohmahar and I claim my $5.50…

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    • 479
      Turdogram says:

      gervais has turned being a talentless twat into an artform..would be much more useful back on a barra down the old kent with the other ignorant kents…unless per chance u have a spot on the bins ..

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  88. 447
    The Admiral says:

    Guido, Numbering’s gone sh1t again.
    New thread?…

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  89. 453
    GORDON McBUST(and his amazing magic cheque book) says:

    Talking of government conspiracies !
    9/11, Oklahoma bombing etc
    what about our own “Set up”crimes
    like when Cameron went into a shop and someone nicked his bike !
    On the other side of the road
    there just happened to be a film crew on hand to film Cameron wandering about like a lost soul shouting “wheres my bike ?
    surely if they were set up to film Cameron comming out of the shop ,
    they saw who nicked his bike or was it planned so he could claim a better bike on expenses ?
    WE MAY NEVER KNOW !

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  90. 454
    Hugh Janus says:

    We are told this morning that the terrorism threat level has been raised.

    Bearing in mind that Bliar took us to war on a false premise after re-writing the intelligence, am I alone in treating this with considerable suspicion? Seeing how the SIS (like everything else) was politicized by this lot in the run-up to Iraq, nothing is beyond them now.

    We have been had before.

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    • 471
      Jolyon Wagg says:

      I quite agree.

      I question..

      1. The timing of the announcement.
      2. Whether it’s true or not.

      I wouldn’t put anything past this shower; including blowing up their own citizens so Jonah can ‘save the world’, delay an election or somehow use the terror threat level to justify their actions at the Iraq inquiry.

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  91. 457
    Gordon Brown says:

    You see,David Cameron is at it again

    Tory leader David Cameron will warn today that Britain is in a “social recession” even deeper than its economic one as he steps up pre-election campaigning.

    And the Tory leader will point to the M.P.’s expenses claims as an extreme symptom of what he dubs Labour’s “moral failure” as he launches a raft of troughing policies.

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  92. 461
    Remember Remember says:

    Ladies and gentlemen welcome to OSBORNIA, a small country on the northern edge of Europe. where married couples with cars subsidise their own tax breaks through their road tax. The ‘Toll Tax’ as it is called is hugely popular, as Mr and Mrs Muggins told our reporter: “Its all a matter of give and take. That’s what we like about life in Osbornia.” (to be continued) …

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  93. 467
    TALEBAN ANNOUNCEMENT: TERROR ALERT TERROR ALERT TERROR ALERT TERROR ALERT says:

    THEY’RE FUCKING EVERYWHERE THEY ARE BOMBING OUR WEDDINGS AND TORTURING US PLEASE HELP SOMEBODY WE ARE UNDER CONSTANT ATTACK FROM THE AMERICAN TERRORISTS 9/11 WAS FUCK ALL TO DO WITH US PLEASE STOP KILLING OUR CHILDREN AND TORTURING US AND DEMONISING US YOU ARE THE FUCKING TERRORISTS NOT US IF YOU LEAVE US ALONE WE WILL DEAL WITH THOSE FUCKING NUTTERS IN ALQAEDA WE WILL KICK THEM OUT OF AFGHANISTAN BY NEXT WEDNESDAY IF THE AMERICANS STOP THEIR TERRORIST ACTIVITIES IN OUR COUNTRY AND WE HAVE NEVER ATTACKED BRITAIN OR BRITISH CITIZENS NEVER WHY ARE YOU HELPING TO AMERICANS TO CARRY OUT TERRORIST ACTS AGAINST US? WHY? WHY? WHY?
    DEAL?
    TERROR ALERT! TERROR ALERT! TERROR ALERT!
    PLEASE SAVE US FROM THE AMERICAN ADMINISTRATION TERRORISTS!

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  94. 470
    Disco Biscuit says:

    A “green tax” is not necessarily “road tax”, Guido.

    It could even be higher flight taxes I guess…

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  95. 473

    Green taxes not being revenue neutral or entirely ring-fenced is a disaster. Prepare for continued and increased butt raping.

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  96. 476
    Keith Chegwin says:

    Hello, Keith here. I’m voting for UKIP.

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    • 477
      Keith Chegwin says:

      I see Ed Balls deserves our pity because he has a stammer which causes him to freeze in live interviews, what a c-c-c-c-c-c-c-

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  97. 481
    arfurchance says:

    This is too confusing.

    I drive a car and I am married – I can’t work out which party hates me most.

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