Danny’s Tax Return
Danny has responded to Guido’s taxing questions. John Rentoul counsels Fink to “leave it son, he’s a worthless political nihilist“. Steady on John. The last person who called Guido a nihilist self-destructed shortly after…
Socratic blogging will continue once Guido has digested Fink’s thoughts.














Nihilism is not always a bad thing: I’m a nihilist when it comes to bottom love with a wire brush for example. Political nihilism is in that category IMHO.
keep the good stuff and throw away the shit.
does that make me a nihilist?
who gives a fuck what john rentoul thinks anyway? the c’unt looks like a fucking smackhead for fucks sake.
note to rentoul: go easy on the crack motherfucker.
danny ratfink’s just a laissez-faire tory. the worst kind.
you do not win elections with do nothing self satisfied wankers like ratfink on board.
Well said that spastic.
We need young people with hoodies taking over politics with gats and long winded speeches about equality and “the man”.
We need a joined up democratic and uncorruptible governance of ordinary citizens by ordinary citizens.
We need to unite not behind party labels but a common purpose. A common purpose of the prolitariat will overcome any common purpose of the elites… if whave the appetite for it.
I’m more starving than a Haitian in an UN death camp.
Let’s do this for the kids. Time to stop licking windows. Let’s break ont hrough to the other side.
This time we’re going to paint it black.
You have now been informed.
Govern yourselves accordingly.
didn’t anyone tell you? only pompous wankers double space.
your name fits you perfectly though.
well done wanker!
You are a sad troll tat.
Your blog doing well is it?
Scurry on now cripplella.
The cavalry has arrived.
Time for you anal probing you spasticated nonce
said john rentoul.
if you can’t take it john fuck off.
innit.
You missed out “We don’t need no education”, Mr. Bag.
Disagree. Cliche would have spoiled a finely wrought irony.
BTW, re your #1 bottom love with a wire brush, I imagine Tuscans’ undercarriages also benefit from a good squirt of waxoil afterwards.
Finkel does waste an awful lot of time waffling when the argument is still the blindingly obvious, “promising election tax cuts after an economic catastrophe in a recession will only make the voters think you are liars”
Shut the fuck up tat, you know fuck all about politics.
Rubbish. Alan Johnston is now PM.
time will tell.
Tat, quite.
“Self satisfied wanker”-I wonder who that remainds me of?
Can’t be me
Wanker.
said the etc…
Guido,
Low taxes are not a good policy in itself. They are the consequence of good government policy.
Ken.
Good government policy is a contradiction in terms. The moment you irrevokably delegate spending authority to someone else you’re cattletrucked.
TT,
that’s only the case when you vote a bunch of dumb-fucks into power. I expect this election will not be about voting dumb fucks into power – apart from those northern and scottish constituencies as they always do so.
When govt has sound policy and gets its’ nose out of those areas in which it has no business, then lower taxes are a consequence.
That’s true but only in theory: the problem with all these let’s gummint is good this time platitudes is that as soon as someone gets a hold over you, however nice they once were, however well-meaning their intent initially was, they soon start to get all medieval with you.
True.
But let’s face it, we don’t have the option of voting conservative at the next election. The choice is old labour vs Blue labour.
The tories really fucked up with presenting us with Dave rather than traditional conservatism. Everyday I read Normal Tebbit’s blog in the telegraph and I sigh because his (and our) party has been hijacked.
Agreed. Norm’s autobiography (25 years ago?) was not well written, but nevertheless a stunningly interesting read (picked it up at a book sale serenditipitiously (?)). Dismissing him with one or two soundbites (viz: Spitting Image) was the left’s greatest achievement for their own pointless and nihilistic ends, and actually I think depressingly damaging to the country.
“We believe in nothing, Lebowski, in nothing!”
I only believe in myself ( rampant individualist: Toryism circa 1979) does this make me a Nihilist?
I tried nihilism but it was too exhausting.
I found that there was nothing in it for me. Nothing at all. Not chasing that phantom again.
Stop chasing. Start making.
Tony
“Bottom love with a wire brush”
You told me that you went to a state school
Eve can send you some ointment
I’m a teenage nihilist dirtbag.
BTW, by the look of him, I think I could take Fink in a fight if needed Mr Fawkes.
The Fink would swipe you with his LSE degree certificate and then drop his OBE on your face.
Super rich immigrants to pay £15K for a visa
Good old Labour
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jan/20/visas-immigration-fees-increase
As it should be of course: open borders, only those who can afford it can come. Can’t afford a place to live? Off you go to France/Turkey/Spain/Angola. Bit like Switz.
Fast track visas ‘for those who could afford it’.
Whatever happened to ‘without fear or favour’?
Fear is a rational response to colonisation, sorry ‘migrants’.
OT:
“British values are under threat because the government’s attempt to combat terrorism has left whole communities “stigmatised”, the National Association of Muslim Police has told MPs”.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jan/21/muslim-police-terrorism-policy-islamophobia
What is the National Association of Muslim Police and why one earth is even allowed Same question applies to the Black Police Association?
Can we all form our own then?
Seems the white man is the terrorist here and your poor little muslim suicide bomber is just a product of racism and frustration….ahhh diddums. It appears our muslim chums are feeling frustrated… frustrated as they havent islamified our country yet.
Apologists for terrorists this lot it seems. I wonder if any of these muslim police would join the large portion fellows muslims in not denoucing islamic terror, and if they would also join those who claim they would not speak to the authorities if they knew of a terror plot?
Given the amount of infiltration of the security services in places such as Iraq and afghanistan by islamic fundamentalists (i.e. the CIA being blown up by one of their colleagues in the ‘stan) I would hope that rigourous checks are made of these officers on a continuing basis. Or given the fact most forces will bend over backwards to be ‘diverse’ is there a chance one or two, or more, could slip through the net? Is it wrong to ask that question? does it offend ‘diversity’?
Given that the recent terrorist activity in this country has, in the main, been by Islamic extremists is it not right that the security services have a anti-terror policy based on combating it? Or should all ‘terror’ plots be considered equal so as not to upset the diversity crowd? I dont recall some far right moron strapping on a cock bomb and trying to blow up an airliner for Hitler.
These people are at best fools, (and at worst traitors) as they would have the security of this nation compomised to massage their precious egos, to not be ‘offended’. Any such dilution to appease PC hand wringers would be a boon for the very nasty Islamic fundamentalists who DO want to kill us all. Including the wet fucking liberals.
And, yes I am white….so?
Yer links are wrong
I’m a political nihilist because politicians only want to take my money and spy on me all day. Where’s the “let you keep your money and leave you the f**k alone” party?
I’m a political nihilist because politicians only want to take my money and spy on me all day. Where’s the “let you keep your money and leave you the f**k alone” party?
http://lpuk.org – take a look..
Im a Nihilisticly Nihlist…I know nothing.
You know you know nothing, which means you know something – that you know nothing – therefore you know something (that you know nothing – and therefore something)…
Er.
denverthen, you rush to judgement. He says he knows “nothing”, as indeed do we all. The concept of nothingness, abstract though it may be, is well understood by human beings. Indeed it may be that this knowledge separates us from all other sentient life.
To say that one knows nothing, then, is quite different from saying that one knows nothing. I know nothing; you know nothing, just as your neighbour knows nothing. The nothing I and you and he know is not so much nothing and something which does not exist. That is, it is the absence of something which we can define with any certainty. This lack of certainty is not itself ignorance, more an acceptance that we know nothing.
Hope this helps.
You sure about that?
My brain hurts. I can’t be not as clever as you, man.
Talk about brilliant philosophical hedging. Do I know you, Willi?
I don’t even know myself. γνῶθι σεαυτόν, Socrates’ existential exhortation, is as difficult to obey, using mere consciousness, as it is to fathom a Buddhist koan. “Does a dog have Buddha-nature?” “What is the sound of one hand clapping?”
To the rational mind such questions are conundra. No, we must look within, deep inside ourselves, for the answers. Meditation is one route; prayer and the other mystical practices of the Christian church another; while in other cultures, at different times, drugs, alcohol, and ecstatic dancing have all provided a pathway to the infinite.
Myself, I prefer Stella.
Be at one with Cod. Get Battered.
That’s really is a nothing argument.
You don’t get this kind of quality on the telly
Had to look it up, guess that makes me working class
I think that simply being able to spell the word qualifies you to be a professor of English Language these days.
No, you need ‘capitalist running dog’, ‘reactionary’, ‘narrative’ et fucking cetera and to piss all over the hand that feeds you.
I’m a Nileist.
If a centre-forward fails to score in a match, does that make him a nilist?
Only if he fails to score that night.
As Peter Crouch said.” If I hadn’t been a Footballer, I might well still be a virgin!”
I was a virgin once, didn’t like it, though.
In the same way as I boldly go, that is.
As comment 4 says, your links seem to be wrong. The Finkelstein link doesn’t go to Mr F, nor the Rentoul one to Mr R. Instead they both go to Wikipedia – a good source but not worthy of being quoted quite so many times. Please correct.
How dare he! We will shove his insults down his throat…. Guido is the Samuel Pepys of our age. Future generations will applaud him.
That’s as may be, but the not inconsiderable contribution of his loyal menagerie will merit us a footnote in his history.
A footspa, more like, full of Dettol.
S-SKWAAAAAARRKK!!! (flapflapflap) (preen)
Angelnstar.
I say steady on,Pepys was a right old womaniser.
Da Fink is still in his SDP fug.Please help boy george back to sanity.
I’ve got some powder that will help georgie
hmmmmmm the Great leader is still excrement !!!
and so are your posts you boring c’unt.
sheesh. shit policies and shit trolls: the tories really are on a roll.
they make me look good.
Browns answer to Fabricant regarding the leaking dam in his constituency was a disgrace and ought if there is any justice ensure that there is not a single labour seat left in and around Staffordshire.
Fabricant points out in coffee house that he had previously informed Brown about his question – in the expectation of a sane answer. Yet Brown just treated it as a joke and gave a cheap sneering answer.
I watched PMQs today and listened to the Labour MPs. Last time I saw that many plants I was in a garden centre.
A rather neglected garden centre. Most of those plants are weeds.
Weeds that are in need of some industrial strength Roundup. Destroy them from the roots up, its the only way to be sure.
Brown is notified of nearly ALL Opposition questions ( except Cameron’s ) BEFORE they are asked. That’s why he carries that great sheaf of crib notes to the Dispatch Box.
The fat woman in the row behind him hands them back and forth – wouldn’t it be great if we could plant some new statements for Brown to make – it would take him a good few minutes (and a hushed Chamber) before the utter piece of crap realises what he is saying;
“I am a total arsehole and I will call the election for next Thursday – my wife hates me as much as everyone else does” etc etc etc.
Just how does Brown stand up in the House and read out condolences for the dead servicemen. And keep a straight face.
He cut £1.5 Billion out of the Defence Review in 1998. money for all sorts but mainly Heavy Lift Choppers. Then to allow £2,3 Billion for the refurbishment of MoD Whitehall in 2002/3.
To continuously have claimed that our troops have had all they ever needed in Theatre(s). To brag about procurement of Chopper in 2013, yet promising withdrawl before then.
He really is unable to make the connection with his Guilt Complex. Or he simply doesn’t have one. Of course the troops have to patrol on foot, but given our experience in NI. The route in and out of a FOB is really difficult to vary. Chppers also massively extend the Security Safe Zone, and an unpredictable patrol sequence is hard for the enemy to counter. It really isn’t complicated is it?
170 Spin Doctors in the MoD. WTF.
Brown to resign citing ill health (physical and mental) – by end Feb.
Johnson steps in for election.
New “leader” elected after GE.
Obama will be pleased. He’ll be able to get his health reforms through.
Who will vote for a party with no leader?
around about 28% of the population at the moment
A furious Barack Obama called an emergency meeting of the congress after Kraft’s recent acquisition of the British firm Cadbury’s.
With obesity levels in the USA continuing to rise, a legislation was quickly voted through banning any American firms from mounting a take over bid for the British company Holland’s Pies
A source close to the president stated that Obama couldn’t stomach the thought of the British public singing “Who ate all the pies?”
There may be a loophole. We might still be able to get the Yanks to buy Ginsters – tell them it’s heritage or something.
I ate most of them – at the Taxpayers’ expense of course.
Did you hear about the heroin addict nun?
She had a right dirty habit.
There is no way you are a political nihilst Guido and his description of this civilized debate as ‘civil war’ is not accurate even as a metaphor. That man from the Independent shouldn’t stoop to name calling, he has a lean and hungry look about him.
stop being nice and beating around the bush: he looks like a crackhead whore FFS.
I have now posted four comments.
Guido will start deleting me in 3…2…1..
Three comments a thread tat, then back to the tumbleweed and “hello….hello…” echoes of your blog. A search for Thick as Thieves earlier today led me to a riveting blog on beach huts – is that you?
Well if it is, Tat is a very wealthy man. Beach huts sell for serious amounts of money . One up for sale in Southwold this last week was expected to fetch £100K.
Odd that – can’t give ‘em away on the banks of the Mersey. Location, location, location….
It looks like the little bum for hire has scurried away in fear of the mod button.
Scabby useless articles more like.
I just want tat to let us know where his blog site is, only so that I can studiously avoid it. There are quite a lot of posters that will no doubt be giving him the same treatment that he has meted out to them. KARMA.
That is why he was born in the form he was.
there is no point in me telling you where my blog is: you are banned.
http://www.torybear.com/2010/01/caption-contest-dont-mess-with-david.html
Unfortunately Tory Bear didn’t quite have enough of a sense of humour to post my caption that “He’s almost as fat as Tory Bear..” or words to that effect.
But why waste time on TV debates ? Surely a paintballing contest is what the viewers want to see ? Complete with cranes, helmet-cams, splatters and more.
And real guns loaded with live rounds. Not paint ball guns. I would definitely watch that.
Bit strong Guido, even a troll like me wouldn’t be making such open threats lol.
Did anyone else notice that Danny says he doesn’t think it’s helpful to compare the size of the state vs. GDP – but then he didn’t go to answer what this question is getting at: should the state be smaller, if so how small?
Here’s a hint to all the politicos out there: get the fuck out of our lives and stop stealing our money.
Agreed, It all amounted to, “sure we should have a smaller state, but I prefer being a ball-less craven coward about it. Let’s not dare actually have a strong position on it, because the (completely debunked) liberal consensus on ever increasing taxes is not compatible with a smaller state.”
Grow some bollocks for fuck’s sake!
Fink’s entire response was a whiney, ball-less, chicken-shit excuse to tinker at the edges of a very fucked up status quo.
This sort of weak and dithering apprehension about policy is why Cameron is such a big fat bag of FAIL! Today’s PMQ is a case in point. When is a Real Conservative going to turn up to take on that tosser Brown? Cameron is consistently failing to land a finger on Brown.
I’m a denialist.
Undeniably.
an arseholist, an arseholiholic
more like.
Me too poppet.
What’s with this “nihilism” schtick? Is nihilism the new racism?
Nihilism? There’s nothing to it.
In all honesty I don’t see any point or reason to becoming nihilist.
I was a Nileist
Doesn’t exist – impossible to believe in it.
Is it more nihilistic of our politicians to lie, spin and fill stuff thier own pockets as MP’s; failing time and time again to serve the public with honesty, integrity and diligence – or to expose and debate the failings of politicians in the hope of reforming politics for the better?
Tough one.
We all have the seeds of our own destruction within us!
Don’t we Guido?
Yeah, they’re called spermatozoa. What’s the latest guesstimate of the cost of bringing up a sprog? £100,000? The Daily-Make-It-Up has an article about this every now and then.
all your sperm are belong to us
They do not belong to you, but you may purchase them for a very reasonable price. Say, £5 per kilo.
This is the year I make my fortune, and have fun doing it.
Absolutely, I am nearly there now.
I agree entirely. Fink done pretty good in the second period of play really. He’s moving better all round. He’s creating space and getting through the defense.
You sound like you’re talking about cage fighting techniques there Loretta.
I wish dave would learn some of the moves and then practice them on gordon .
I’m getting really fed-up with his softly softly PMQ’s approach just because some of his team think that being rude to gordon is showing disrepect to the office of PM and not good pr.
They are pacing the questions carefully. Not what we want, but what is required to gain the most traction. Best be patient. It will seem like forever until polling day, and Brown’s own arrogance and delusions of Grandeur will trip him up.
Exactly.
Guido, I’m leaving this comment here as comments have been turned off on the webchat. Today someone else was leaving comments in the PMQs webchat using my handle – please would you look into the possibility of (voluntarily) logging on with a password, in order that impersonators could be foiled? It works in IRC forums!
Someone else was logging on as ‘Anonymous’? Shocking behaviour. Something must be done. Think of the children, etcetera.
Whoever “Anonymous” thinks he is, he isn’t the real Anonymous. I am.
Bastard.
I’m Spartacus!
No,
I am Spartacus!
You sure about that?
not really
Don’t believe him, he’s using my name
I should have posted the last message as ‘intentionally anonymous’…
It has come to may attention my name is being abused
Not just your name, you cheeky boy….
It’s t’internet anonymity, innit?
I am sometimes even more anonymous here – sometimes not.
this is dumber when Madonna tried to sue a club for calling itself ‘Madonna’ claiming that it was her trademark
cost me twenty quid to get in but she wasn’t there
I see McFuckwit Brown has screwed up again and big style this time. He really is a nasty odious creature. An appallling remark to make at PMQ
http://iaindale.blogspot.com/2010/01/brown-damned-by-his-own.html
Brown’s a fucking disgrace.
He’s not that good.
All the infrastructure in Kircaldy is fine.
That’s because you’re rarely there.
What about Kirkcaldy?
He’s rarely there, either.
Execute Brown – bury him alive – anything to get this mentally retarded thug from the seat of power.
Someone do it – you will be supported for life.
Yes, saw it on PMQs and thought it crass myself. I think that Brown is trying to emulate Blair’s technique of the arch put-down, but unlike Blair, who at least seemed in control of PMQs, Brown seems abrupt and misses the point of any question.
The Clunking Missed?
That’s because he is mentally ill – he has a colossal inferiority complex and is not actually listening to anyone at PMQ’s because he knows he is hated by them all.
The reason he has an inferiority complex is that he is inferior.
So he’s not always wrong, then.
He’s a prick.
I think you’re spot on.
We used to mock countries for having insane leaders; Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Kim Jong Il, Mao, Stalin, Castro..
and yet here we are, in Western Europe, in the 21st century, with a bona fide basket case in Number 10, wilfully smashing the country to bits day in, day out, and no-one’s stopping him.
Stalin was a paranoid sociopath with a narcissistic personality disorder whereas Brown is….
Oh Shit!
Tough on dambusting, tough on the causes of dams busting
Why can you never find a Lancaster Bomber when you really need one
I was also so shocked I thought he mis-spoke.
To call him a cretin is to insult cretins.
Just Joose
Fink looks like a Captain Mainwearing Pork Pie
You know that little dormouse who sticks his head out of the teapot in Alice in Wonderland? That’s him that is.
I’ve got two women fighting over me in the care home at the moment, and it’s making me as horny as hell.
They’re not fighting, Stevie, just struggling to get your colostomy bag off.
colostomy bag ? Sounds interesting show me more
You really are a tedious prat.
Says the tedious prat with a name as yours Mwhahahaha so don’t give me any more shit right!
I was a bit of a nil-ist when I was The Arsenal’s hard man.
Since I gave up the booze and took to piano playing, my memory has gone.
I don’t think I played against this Fink fellow.
I think he bats for the other side.
Brown is spending the evening making up new policies using strong cider and a ouija board
We should see an improvement anytime soon then.
Jonah’s curse is spreading to Obama. I’m sure he wished him all the best over the Massachusetts election and health care.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_yc-Lk62n49w/S1cPriswKNI/AAAAAAAADkA/5qqq-exbn20/s1600-h/Labour+Fruit+%26+Nut+case.jpg
Hahhahahahahaha Brilliant!!!!! as another poster said ‘spread the word’
An arse and a halfwit in every bar
Love it. Mandelbend looks like Stan Laurel!
Labour plan to fight the forthcoming election campaign, according to the guardian, with gordon “meeting the world, taking to the road, shaking hands and kissing babies. His team say he’s good at it”
I think the media coverage of this socially inept character meeting people on the street will be very interesting and not a vote winner. But bring it on!
‘Talking to the road’
Yes, that’s probably the only audience that will be interested in the lies he’s going to repeat.
Nell – there is simply no way he will be allowed near the public – he will be lynched.
If we saw him near us,there would be so many men and women trying to kick him to bits,they would be shooting us like Haitian earthquake victims.
No,Brown cannot go anywhere without a planted audience.
Gordon Brown – the most hated man in Britain.
Even the ringers are getting sick of the sight of him. It is a very small group that actually supports HIM.
We already know how Nulabour copes with “public walkabouts” They bus in labour activists who then pose as locals who just “happened to be there” No real person will ever be let anywhere the snotster.
Correct, it is very very rare that ANY labour minister will be allowed near a real human being during an election campaign. Not that the Minister themselves will have a clue about it.
To get invited to these shindigs, one must be a card carrying, paid up, long-time member and activist of a local labour party. You must have done your time leafletting and knocking on doors.
That way they know you are not likely to be a secret tory trying to get access to cause trouble, or god forbid, a REAL human being.
There is no way that they will let Brown anywhere near a real human being during the campaign.
Certainly if he happened to be anywhere near me, I would end up on the news, and in prison, for a very very very long time. I don’t particularly want to go to prison, so I shall not be looking to find him. IN fact I shall do my best to avoid ever being anywhere near to the c’unt. BUT IF he happens to approach me, then I am honour and duty bound to take serious action. No human being should be allowed to commit the vile crimes against humanity and decency that Brown, Straw, Hoon, Blair and Prescott are guilty of.
Steady on, Ned
Remember that poor sod on Twitter who recently had plod feeling his collar for a stroppy post.
Bliar was asking for trouble with the dossier and the 45 minute claim:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8471091.stm
Secrets of the CIA – they always distort intelligence to keep wars going.
Blair just went along with the USA/CIA way of doing war.
Idiot.
rumour is Guido has CIA contacts, but they are only rumours……
TaT is CIA. He knows that Brown is CIA. ergo TaT must be!
Well yes that is believable as TAT is many things
…….except totally sane.
Man at C&A more like. His wardrobe is like something from Life on Mars FFS.
Dr David Kelly died then because bliar wanted to add a ‘bit of local colour’ to the dossier by way of insinuating that wmd could be used within 45mins?
What sins bliar has on his soul.
Bliar has no soul. He sold it a long time ago.
He killed himself nell that’s what the official verdict says. Unless you have any contrary evidence to bring to light then you are making wild assumptions my dear.
The ONLY verdict on Dr Kelly was delivered by the discredited hutton
(remember him – the whitewash king?!)
The only definitive information on Dr Kelly’s last days has been published by Norman Baker in his book entitled “The strange death of Dr David Kelly” which more or less proves that he could not have committed suicide with a blunt garden knife , and he could not have bled to death cutting a minor vein in his wrist, and that no significant blood was found at the site and that blood tests showed he had not lost a significant amount of blood and that he only taken one or two paracetamol in the last 24 hours that could not have killed him.
THe further development of that is that 13 senior medical professionals and coroners are now petitioning the courts for a proper Coroner’s Inquest into Dr David Kelly’s death because they believe the evidence shows he could not have committed suicide and that there has been a cover-up/’miscarriage of justice’.
It is now almost certain that a Coroner’s Inquest will happen and will find irregularities. Sadly it will not be until after labour are out of power and tone and campbell make sure they are miles away from the long arm of British justice, when the final verdict is given that there was foul play here.
Wild assumptions ! You need to get more widely read!!!!
Dr Kelly nearly died of Global Warming. Then he realised it was actually Climate Change, which covers all weather variations. He then knew his number was up.
Being murdered just added to his demise.
Question is ‘ murdered by whom’??
If it was british agents acting for tone and alastair – there is trouble ahead.
Even if such a verdict comes after the labour collapse at the next GE – Labour is going to be fatally damaged by such a finding.
Labour will also be mortally damaged if a verdict does not conclude emphatically that they were not involved ie if it leaves the question open ended, as in ‘they may have been involved and it’s impossible to rule them out of the equation’
It is the conspiracy to murder that is the sinker. Who(m) did it is almost co-incidental. Favour from a foreign agency? Doubt it would be our own people.
Too much chance of a back wash from the possibility of a Guilt trip.
I heard Kelley, Porton Down and Apartheid-era South Africa were connected, but that could be another conspiracy theory. Doesn’t mean it’s not true, mind.
Some might say, It was Iraqi nationals working as assets for French Intelligence.
It is impossible for a fit adult to die from half an aspirin and a dissected ulnar artery (that was dissected post mortem, hence the lack of blood at the scene) A standard inquest would have established this, which is why there wasn’t one.
Ere, don’t forget me.
Guido
Don’t forget that Rentoul is responsible for driving the Independent onto the rocks..
And for having “slavishly” admired Tonty Blair which shows he must be highly delusional and suffering as much mentally as our own Grogon Ruins…
I think Rentoul also has difficulty understanding long words like libertarian or anarchist…..not surprising given the drivel he produces in the Indy day in day out !!!
BTW
When is the Indy going to be wound up ??
Good news everybody, joined Guardian Soulmates so with a bit of luck and a few dates i will not post here as often anymore.
I know you are all sad and heartbroken at the news. I thank you all for the journey and the highs and lows.
Missing you already.
Naaaht!
Well the bad news is, I’ve had no takers so far. Some of the women are quite ugly as well, you would of thought the Guardian would of attracted a higher quality for the money you have to pay to join.
I challenge Gordon Brown to a fight – outside the gates of his Downing St bunker.
No weapons,just fists.
10 rounds of 3 minutes.
I am unemployed for first time in 29 years,2 kids trying to get to University from where they will qualify with massive debts,taxed to the hilt,cameras follow me everywhere,my local MP steals my money,the govt lie about everything,and this c*unt Brown sends my money to Africa and other places like India who have their own nuclear programme.
Gordon Brown – outside your bunker tomorrow at 11am – be there you utter coward.
You wouldn’t hit a blind man would you? what a bully.
It started in America.
I will be a bit busy saving the world tomorrow.
He’s erm, ……….. washing his hair and ………..erm going to the dry cleaners.
Hasn’t been there for a very long time. A very long time.
Dandruff and skin grease is such a persistent stain.
Lazy git.
Fists are classed as weapons.
Stop whinig and “get on your bike”.
why? Labour chancellors only squeeze you ‘until the pips squeak’ so whats the point?
Go on my son, duck and jab, duck and jab. You can take him in the 1st round.
A good right handed haymaker will do the job, he will never see it coming.
I hate that footbal column with predictions that Finklestein does in the Times. Fink Tank, Fink Wank more like.
No need to be anti-semitic
we are fucked
The number of people classed as “economically inactive” rose to a record high of 8.05 million in the three months to November.
http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/business_money/unemployment+drops+for+first+time+in+18+months/3509152
Talk about fiscal drag
All Thatchers fault of course
Add to that the number of people in education, infants, and pensioners, and maybe only half the population is economically active. About 6 million of those are paid from the public purse, so maybe only about 25 million people are actually net contributors to the treasury.
It must be hard work at night in Haiti, when you can only see the locals if they smile.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/centralamericaandthecaribbean/haiti/7010545/Haiti-earthquake-British-rescue-teams-pull-survivors-free.html
Something for we British to be proud about!!
Our 65 man team of firefighters, doctors, tunnellers etc – tunnelling through the dark, frightening spaces of fragile, crumbling buildings , ignoring aftershocks and falling rubble and new earthquakes to rescue trapped children, women, and men whilst risking their own lives.
Assisted by enthusiastic family, friends, and neighbours of the afflicted trapped folk.
Amazing work ethic, those Haitians.
we sent alot of money as well because we are a caring nation
Whereas you should be put into care. woof.
The question needs to be asked what happened to all that reparation money that France leeched from Haiti , after the Haitian slaves had pushed the brutal french out of haiti in 1801 after 12 years of war.
France, during it’s slave years through the 16,17 & 1800′s had deforested the country to make huge sums of money from plantations and slaves. Their policies left Haiti vulnerable to natural disasters.
After 1801 France aggressively pursued financial reparation against Haiti for its loss of colonial land making Haiti pay huge sums of money from 1801 to 1947 which forced this impoverished country into an inescapable cycle of debt that it still faces today.
Where is France now when Haiti needs help??!!!
why didn the haitian plant trees?
Is it for the same reason they leave corpses unburied?
Good point.
Accusing the Yanks of occupation actually.
The French were quite awful colonisers. And it bugs me that their current colonies, being classed as departments are all paid out $3500US per capita in direct grants from the EU. I kid you not.
Why didn’t the Haitian’s plant trees??!!
After France had leeched all financial assets from the country after 1947 and they were forced to seek international loans that charged them exorbitant rates of interest from Europe and America, they were terrorised by Papa Doc and his tonton macoutes. Money to buy trees? They hadn’t got enough money to buy biscuits!!!
When he fell, baby papa doc fled the country with $900million in his offshore account which was largely believed to be aid that had been given to his country and Redirected for his own personal use. Why hasn’t the International community pursued him for repayment of that money to Haiti?!!
Just this Monday gone,, Baby Papa Doc told the world that he would give $5million to Haiti if only they would let him back as their leader. Evil Little Person that he is!!!
The people of Haiti were being forced, before this earthquake, to make biscuits from a mixture of mud and flour.
What needs to happen is that we string up the French Government and baby papa doc and make them both pay back every penny they have leeched from this poorest nation on earth.
Are you as thick as your are one-eyed? Where do you think France is? Trying to get some supplies into the island, ya no-necked monster.
No wonder Britain is in a state with reprobates like you trumpeting this kind of shite around.
Now, how are the banjo lessons going?
One eyed – are you accusing gordon??
you’re aim’s off – accuse France!
Their sins against Haiti are immense and so far NOT repaid!!!!
So Rentoul’s a Professor of Contemporary History, is he?
I’m no expert, but I rather thought the whole point about history is it’s in the past. Sort of, you know… historical.
That makes Rentoul a Professor of exactly nothing, as I see it. I wonder how much he’s paid for that, and if his bosses have actually given any thought to whether they’re getting value for money.
You are right of course; but I think they feel that “contemporary” is posh for “recent”.
Never given it a thought before, but you’re absolutely right.
“Contemporary history” … what an oxymoron … what a poxy moron.
Ergo (propter hoc, et cetera) he must be (ceteris paribus, inter alia) Professor of Nihilism. Quod erat demonstrandum, what?
And I thought he was a rat catcher.
Brown is trying to attract voters he previously may not have connected with by dying his hair ginger and getting a tattoo.
Katherine Jenkins fans can look forward to a visit next month from Gordon on his mobility scooter
Friend of mine got a letter today from the election people asking him if he willing to be on the election squad again?
Gave him two dates 25th march and 6th may, said if he wants must send all new info about himself saying he is the same person he was last 3 elections?
And I know Fawkes is not the Conservative Party…
errr… no Shit, Sherlock?!
That knowledge seemed lacking in your article, Mr Rentoul.
No he isn’t. He was abducted by us. Probed, and returned with a synthetic brain.
Oh, hang on……… that was 1979. All socialist were harvested for their brains in that year.
March is only to put the wind up the tories, if you are a betting man, get your odds on may with regards from your inside man.
Inside a fucking secure ward I presume.
I’m not Gordon Brown and where he is soon headed!
We must verify his identity to prove they correspond to the data we hold ( and occasionally lose ) on our records. DNA samples may be required ( obviously we will destroy them after checking – honest ). CRB checking is now absolutely essential and we reserve the right to CCTV him for several months. Health & Safety forms must be updated and countersigned by an approved apparatchik. Snap checks on his recycling record may be required. We may also monitor emails and telephone conversations for staff training.
Don’t forget his inside leg measurement, hat size and dental records.
Taken care of when we put him through the new scanners.
Great timing. I just looked up the astrology and McFuckwit’s fubarred on either day, but especially completely tarfued on 25 March, a really nasty day, tho on 6 May he goes with more grace. Make it 25 March, please please please you evil scotch git. May your last act be to Jonah yourself utterly.
Paddy had the following password at work
MickeyMinniePlutoHueyLouieDewieDonald
GoofyDublin
When his boss asked why he had such a long
Password he replied “Bejazus! are you fecking
Stupid? I was told me password had to be at
Least 8 characters long and inclue one capital”.
Then what did the boss say?
Do tell.
The boss said, “the EU superstate has only one capital, Brussels and Strasbourg, and therefore EU regions such as Ireland (British Isles West) don’t have capitals. Dublin is at most a seat for a regional council, much like London.”
His boss was a bit boring, to be honest, but perfectly correct.
He said, Dublin’s not a capital, it’s the seat of a regional council.
The EU, like all nations, has only one political capital. Brussels and Strasbourg.
Er … that’s two capitals. How can a body have two heads?
Over to you, Dave”A barrel load of laughs” Cameron.
That’s not a barrel; that’s below the scrapings from the bottom of the barrel.
Have you tried the Samaritans for this problem ? Tel. 08457 90 90 90
I don’t know about the Samaritans, we should hire a fucking hitman for this сunt.
Fucking labour arsehole, pay some one rather than get it for free?
Good point, I’m sure there are loads of volunteers out there who would gladly finish him off.
Immigration advice to newly arrived Muslims: “If someone sets fire to your house, ring this number 18253916538462812893834746919″
Sarah Brown on the telly awards to night giving a award to David Tennant – That’s a surprise!!!!! WA*KER
HAHA!
Eat waxy foreign ‘candy’…replace sugar with saccarine…move production to 3rd world…ha ha after taste haha…
Nestle has made kitkat taste better. Foild wrapping was inferior…sizes were too big…sugar is unhealthy, aspartamin and saccarine are the way forward…
Eee…you’re right there oldnat, I were brought oop on’t genuine synthetic taste ‘o Cadbury’s and things should stay that way.
She’ll do anything to spend an evening away from Gordon.
‘Mo’ – the dramatisation of Mo Mowlem’s life was launched last night at the BAFTA’s.
There were loads of influential labour folks there praising her courage and talking about her good points. And she had many. She was one of the few Labour women I admired along with Betty Boothroyd, who was a pal of hers.
Who was missing? mandy, of course!! He is savaged in the film as a duplicitous double-crosser. I wonder why?
I could not possibly comment nell. And yes, this is the real Peter Mandelson.
Wibble
If you are the real P. Mandy, please can you arrange for Gordon to resign as soon as possible?
You achieved your objective of holding the government together long enough to get Lisbon passed, now not only has the Party no confidence in the leader but the country does not either – election as soon as possible please, so that we can let Labour know what we think of them!
Let me guess. Is it because he is a duplicitous double-crosser?
Or even a duplicitous double cross dresser? Yowzer!
Poster on PB.com reporting a twitter that said Sarah Brown was booed at an award ceremony tonight. Anyone picked up anything?
If so goes with the husband then at Obama Beach.
Wouldn’t the BBC report it ?????????????????????????????????
who is she to give awards?
Did anyone order a beard?
I heard the boo’s and the award was for David Tennatt, Sarahs calfs are bit like the legs on a grand piano, but boo’s did happen!
You can’t boo Dr who and get away with it.
David Tennant who recently came out in support of Brown, it must be added. What a coincidence.
Did you say boo Who? Who booed Who?
woof woof
I’ve looked through the ONS report released today and I’m damned if I can find the 7,000 who found a job in the last quarter. The scary statistic is the increase in ‘economically inactive’ citizens, as others have pointed out
Todays’ Tractor Stats at PMQs were designed to gloss over the leap in inflation to 2.9%. Any experts out there like to predict the January figure, when the 2.5% VAT increase kicks in?
Hmm not good. Time to change the basis on which the Tractor Stats are calculated
There is currently a ‘public consultation’ on how mortgage payments will be treated in the headline inflation figures, from March 2010. The consultation closes this Friday 22nd January 2010:
http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/about/consultations/measurement-of-mortgage-interest-payments-within-the-retail-prices-index–2009-/index.html
I think I’ll write in to suggest that mortgage interest in future should be net of Tax Credits and benefits, the March inflation figures will be benign and I demand my Trotsky Star
Sorry but ONS statistics have become meaningless largely because no-one knows how they arrive at them anymore . The regulations that surround them have become incomprehensible – and , of course, that it is what labour intended.
The only possible explaination for a fall in unemployment is that the 7,000 and more found work either in minimum wage retail jobs (no doubt temporary) or in the public sector in the last couple of months.
What’s the betting now on March 25th for the election, so that the Q1 figures are Cameron’s problem?
Crying into your babycham because there’s a few less dole wallahs? Ya narrow and bitter tool yer. If there were to be any positive changes to society you’d probably top yerself because you’d have nothing to whinge about.
Nobody believes the unemployment figures. The only question is exactly how they’ve been fiddled.
Yeah, we just spotted one…..you.
If there was a geniune reduction in unemployment I would be happy, I just don’t believe there has been anything but a seasonal blip down in a long term upward trend.
As I say above, there is a good chance the election will now be called before the Q1 figures are published, with the seasonal unemployment and impact of the VAT rise showing in the numbers.
Most of us are very keen for more people to be doing productive work and paying taxes.
If, in fact, Brown is cynically wasting money that benefits only the ONS stats by:
a) giving people, too thick for A-levels or university, “education”; or
b) “training” people for jobs that don’t exist in the real economy
then we all become “twat-spotters”.
Any fiddling of these figures is bad for us all. It hides the problem until it arrives at your own door. This government have the highest number on invalidity benefit claimants ever. These would be on the unemployment list otherwise. This is just one of the ways they have deceived the British people. As someone who has been made redundant 3 times (ALL under a Labour government I might add this time and last time) Labour betray everyone with their fiddle of the figures for political gain.
The next figures to be fiddled will be the Q4 and one way or another they will get these into positive territory and then call an election in the eye of the storm so I agree 25th March looks likely before the MSM start discusssing the coming train wreck. Q1 will be dire as will inflation and unemployment will be rising again as they hand over power.
Unemployment will sadly rise and Labour know it as copperBalls was on the TV warning of just that. If there was any chance whatsoever (and even it there wasn’t) she would be shrilling for her own side big style. The fact she is not is very frightening. This is going to get bad and Labour know it and they have left the incoming administration in precisly the same position as 1979 but as someone aptly put it “without the manufacturing”
They should never be allowed near power ever again
The only plausible explanation for a fall in unemployment is an increase in the public service headcount.
I’m sure I heard a quiet report somewhere that the Governor of the BoE has informed the government that a substantial rise in interest rates will be necessary before the GE if inflation is to be controlled. Surely QE has to end as well?
there is no fall dumbass..
people not working are not signing on…teenagers are not allowed to leave school…Unemployed Over 60s are being registered as ‘Retired’.
If you believe unemployment is dropping you will believe anything.
See post 113 and 129 above.
PS. Fewer insults in the replies would be appreciated. No real call for it, is there?
I totally agree.
Now feck off.
Suggest you take your own advice.
Engineer, being a gent of the old school, has just encountered blogging’s equivalent of feral youth.
Welcome to the future.
I thought tat had retired for the night.
not me.
I only use capital letters for important words. it’s a legal thing.
Change the basis for calculating inflation, the BoE mandate changes.
ON the same subject, I wonder if this is why I have received 12 letters so far this year this year offering me cheaper house insurance? (Like half my current premium and Yes I don’t live near a river)
One easy way for a state-owned bank to get the Tractor Inflation Stats down
Cameron’s easy meat. We’re going to gobble him up once the real fight starts. The last occasion he had a beating was at Eton. Time he was reminded. Another piss poor performance at PMQs. Oh no, he’s keeping his powder dry. Isn’t that the cry? By the time he light’s the fuse, it’ll be all over.
BWAAAAAHHHHHHHHAAAAAHHHHHAAAAAAAA !!!!!!
Dave the flim flam man is all over the show. He doesn’t know his arse from tax breaks for civil partners, or is it only those inheriting over a million? He’s the toddler in the big boys game and he’s about to get barged into touch.
Whereas you are fucking touched, meathead.
Money where your mouth is, G4AM, the bookies will give you odds of 10-1 of Labour winning the General Election. Stick your house on that and get paid handsomely ( assuming you’re not living off the State housing stock )
We don’t need to win outright. Just to stop the Tories from doing so. After that, it’s an open field. Never bet. It’s a capitalists mugs game. Ever met a poor Tory, Bookie, Share Broker, Money Dealer or Bankster?
Ever met a poor Labour MP , BLAI R, PRES COTT, MANDLE SON ETC ETC MORE TOFFS IN THE LAB*UR PARTY!
I thought Tories approved of upward mobility? Or does it only apply to those with the “Right” background? Prezza’s no toff. But in New Labour we all mix together.
> Ever met a poor Tory, Bookie, Share Broker, Money Dealer or Bankster?
Typical Envy motivated mental illness. There’s nothing wrong with being rich.
Especially when you’ve bled some poor punter dry. Taxpayers for instance.
Anyway, getting back to the point. The few thousand Tories here and at Fat Iain’s place ain’t gonna stand a chance against the mass of socialist minded modern Europeans that we now are, And your boy is going to take a pasting when the going gets rough.
Ever thought of emigrating? I hear Paraguay welcomes old Conservatives and other ex elite classes.
Gordon bet 400 metric tonnes of the Nation’s Gold reserves when he sold at $ 275 an ounce. The price is now $ 1,135 an ounce.
Like all his major calculations, wrong, wrong and wrong again.
We can’t wait to see Gordoom consigned to the continent of Africa later this year where he can do what he’s best qualified to do – missionary work with absolutely zero responsibility for anyone’s finances.
Suppose that gold actually was made of tungsten coated bars, and worthless? What would you do with it?
Use them to beat some fucking sense into your thick commie skull.
Probably a waste of time though but still.
I abolished boom and bust.
But the thieving Banksters reintroduced it.
Thanks to Gordoom’s sloppy ‘regulation’ of the financial sector.
‘Light touch regulation’ was his mistaken motto.
Against professional shysters like them, no one could have foreseen even their monumental clusterfuck. And they knew that he’d have no choice but to bail them out to save all the pension funds tied up in them. Who started the ball rolling by giving them free rein to gamble the nations fortune away in a get rich quick scam? Who deregulated the financial sector and let them loose to rob every man, woman and child in Britain? A certain lady perhaps?
wrong
there was more than one who saw the entire collapse coming but Brown was of course not one of them
He spent his days sucking up to the city with light touch regulation and then acted surprised when they fucked it all up, laughed and turned to him and the taxpayer for a handout
he paid them with taxpayers money and no strings attatched(even less harsh on the Bankers than the US, he and Darling were so wimpy), he ‘regulated’ them by letting them fo whatever the fuck they want
in short he sucked their rancid cocks and paid them for the privilage
he gets half the blame
you live by the idiot soundbite it’s poetic justice when it comes back and makes a fool of you Brown is BUST and he let the Bankers BOOM
Against professional shysters like them, no one could have foreseen even their monumental clusterfuck.
Go 4th and multiply says:
January 21, 2010 at 12:21 am
Such innocence and naievity is a wonder to behold.
Suggest you get back to either flipping burgers or your gameboy if you actually believe that shite as you will do less damage there.
FFS No wonder this country is like it is with Labour shrills like you
Powder dry, I’d say
Otherwise he would have pointed out that a tax break for married couples isn’t just to help white middle class toffs, but applies equally to all of our religions, every one of which places marriage at the heart of its teaching for loving family life, as every childhood should enjoy. (same sex marriages included)
it’ll win the muslim vote, i’ll give Camoron that.
Lets stick to the fucked up economy and the sleaze attached to the party in Government shall we.
All will be resolved.
The Messiah cometh.
All will be well in the world.
Hail president Camoron.
Hail the orange one.
The orange one? Hain?
Hail President Cameron.
Get used to it for the next fifteen years or more fucko.
One term is five years.
After which the voters will happily turf out Camermong as they don’t even like him much now never mind when he gets in and slashes spending, puts up taxes, fails to stop the economy nosediving further and presides over five years of slaughter in Afghanistan.
Votewinners all.
Cameron or Brown for the next five years – your choice.
you mean Brown or Blair 2.0 of course
i’m not mad, just barking.
woof woof
You’ll have an affinity with No.10 Downing Street and gordon or the Office of National Statistics or more likely the UEA Climate Change Scientists!!!!!
Or even Anthony Steen, Douglas Hogg, Alan Duncan, Nadine Dorries, John Redwood, Eric Pickles, Michael Gove, Dan Hannan…….
poor nell is going to vote for a nutter since Dave is fully behind the UAE Climate Change Scientists
either that or science is not determined by the number of turnips one consumes
Nah! You’re a psy-ops Grand Master.
Remembering how your nom-de-blog evolved, I still chuckle every time it appears.
Followers of the left-hand path are not renowned for skills in manipulating an appreciation of the absurd.
Long may your woofs squeak, sir or madam.
Good to see the government being united as ever, Gordon will be so pleased…
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/7038028/Ian-Pearson-darling-deficit.html
Labour admits spending cuts will be ‘extremely painful’
Ian Pearson, the Economic Secretary, also shocked MPs in Labour heartland constituencies by saying the cuts would create “very difficult circumstances” in many already struggling communities.
Time to buy shares in Nokia?
It takes one to know one.
I feel nihilistic. I don’t think Gordon will allow another election.
Another election???? He hasn’t held one yet!!!!
I see the Republicans took a seat formely held by a corrupt murdering c unt ! GOOD.
You must be mistaken.
I did NOT leave her in my car under the water when I drove off the bridge and forget to tell anyone for quite a while.
And anyway,I come from a long line of shysters and Daddy will sort you out.
Danny has a point – I’ll be interested in your response Guido.
…Lev
OT,just seen that Mark Oaten on Sky going on about Tiger Woods.
What the hell are Sky doing inviting this dreg of humanity to say anything about morality.We all know what he did.Sky you are the pits and inviting this putrid pile of shit onto your programme is really beyond the pale.
Have been thinking about my sky contribution for some time now,but not anymore I will now cancell sky.
This man is a self confessed arse bandit and you see him as a worthy person to appear on your programme,you sky are shit and I hope you reap the rewards of your actions by the mass exodus of your viewers from your site
But he’s desperate and cheap. Like most of those i employ.
Did they have to ‘Pledge’ the Coffee table after he left?
Where is that boring twat Charlie Hardwedge, is he off designing another game
BREAKING NEWS: After a week trapped underground with the stench of decaying flesh assailing his senses, a small squinty eyed runt was pulled out of the ruins of the Prime Ministers Palace/bunker. Douglas Alexander said to the assembled rescuers “Thank Christ you got me out”
Fink looks like he does not have an ideal arm length to distance to crack ratio to carry out an efficient arse wipe
i can think of no labour policy that would encourage me to make further investment in a British business
I think you could be right
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6996000.ece
http://www.andybarefoot.com/politics/cameron.php?poster=44349
So THAT explains Gordon Brown’s putrid face.
That’s why I also look a bit ‘craggy’ under my make-up.
Maybe a good moment to dump the Euro.
http://the-tap.blogspot.com/2010/01/euro-fall-says-greece-is-in-big-trouble.html
Sex is a big joke.
I just don’t get it.
Prime Ministers Planted Question No. 621:
Q: I know a couple with four children, the female of which feels bored and wants to get divorced. How much should the government offer them to untie the knot?
A: All I can offer the single woman is a council flat, 350 quid a week and I’ll throw in a free Leisure Voucher. Now I challenge the Conservatives to better that. We are the ONLY party who puts the family first.
Woke up to see Thunder Thighs giving out prizes at some awards rubbish – were the screams in the background the people being trampled as they tried to escape from Sarah Twitters performance?
In the meantime back on planet reality….
Westminster and assorted looney tunes happy to…
Let thieving MP’s continue their looting of the public purse.
Let “caught red handed” MPs go scott free.
Let Local council grandee’s pay themselves huge salaries way beyond their worth.
Dream up even more Quango’s to give their mates and supporters job’s.
Cram people into prison for protecting their family and property.
Let roads and infrastructure fall apart.
Make war’s they can’t win let alone pay for.
Enjoy free and/or subsidised booze and travel themselves, MP’s
overtax the population on the same.
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